Aint no way a young ghostwriter writes something like "Agarwood Oud from Mozambique." That comes from decades of knowledge of old man colognes, that's ultimate class. This is them, my guy.
There are so many old school references in their lyrics that they'd have to write it themselves. But there is a lot of modern slang too. I think they write their own stuff but they get it perfected by ghost writers. Beside that though. Their flow can't be ghost written. That sh*t is real.
In the past few months, I've been watching a ton of these reacts, and it's kind of weird to me people have a hard time believing they can write, but have no issue with someone who's barely an adult writing bars. I figure if you can write, you can write. Ofc it also takes another skill to write complex rhymes, but still, if a 16-20 yo can write well, why not also someone with tons of life experience?
@@hoffafiles Yes but it's rarely one thing or another. Like the dude above said, they probably write it and get it edited by ghostwriters. But who knows really? It doesn't really matter - most big artists these days use songwriters even when they claim a writing credit on a song. No one cares.
Sir, Bas has been a piano teacher and plays various brass instruments for a huge part of his life. He knows rhythm and cadence, breath control, timing, etc
Yeah a lot of ppl dont know the full backstory, Pete was a food standards inspector, and Bas was a piano teacher, they met in a shop while Pete was doing an inspection so I understand and this shop is associated with the YT channel Sindhuworld and ‘Uncle Bal’ the owner of this shop, a lot of their early music was uploaded to this channel. There’s a documentary on YT search ‘Pete and Bas documentary’ it’s the one titled “Oldest Rappers in the World?” By the channel ‘Noisey’.
@@J4M13 yeah exactly. It’s just kind of arrogant for “rappers” (especially internet rappers, or even rap critics) to think that no one other than rappers have knowledge and feel of rhythm, flow, or even rhyme schemes. I mean hello, poetry? Breath control? Sheet music? Percussion? Like why is it so inconceivable for them (or even this guy in the video), that people who have musical background, or even simply sing and play the piano can come up with rhymes and songs better? And Jesus has he even heard a Cockney person talk?
@@mao7💯 And don't get it twisted; he talked about he and a bunch of other fellow white "rappers and lyricists" getting together scrutinizing the authenticity of these two older white rappers.....there's some sketchy a$$ cultural gatekeeping nonsense going on here, in my view. The shttt stinks of it.
@@ronjosephs1070 Sorry I don't remember where I got this, but iirc Pete was associated with a crime family in his youth, and Bas was bare knuckle fighting. They still are at odds with the law tho, I remember Pete getting out of jail like 1-2 years ago they had a career pause
Yes, they do write with the help of their grandkids for the modern slang. Bas is a professional musician and songwriter by trade. This is very easy for him. He was also a music teacher for a bit. He plays the piano, sax, the trumpet, accordion, and several other instruments. His true niche is JAZZ. that is why his flow is so smooth. It is like a saxophone solo! It is also the reason Bas has great breath control. Even if they did not write it, they have a HUGE say in what goes into the song, especially with Pete. They have been doing this since 2017. The first video is called 'Shut Your Mouth'. You can hear how unpolished they were back then. No one was around to help them. Over the years they kept at it and got better with each video. I love it when you youngsters are flabbergasted when we old heads can do what you can do, and sometimes better! You keep saying that it does not matter, yet it is obvious it does!😂😂
It does matter. That’s why it gets brought up constantly by reactors. It seems to me like they do write it. If you listen to enough of their music you can clearly tell they each have their own writing style that fits their personality and rapping cadence.
Don't forget Londoners have been using Cockney rhyming slang since mid 19th century - it is not a huge leap from that, to rapping! Here's a quote on history of rhyming slang: "That tradition is thought to have started in the mid-19th century as code by which either criminals confused the police, or salesmen compared notes with each other beyond the understanding of their customers". So this kind of rhythm is in old Londoners' DNA!
These two amazing and talented artists have something unique and special and no one can come close to their level, at their age, and at a time when audiences are very picky with what rappers put out! They have swagger and appeal to all! Great reaction Anthony ❤🎉
@@Adam-zh4hm What I don't understand is why you are so sure they can't and/or don't write it themselves. Do you personally know them.? Why is your brain so dead set on this. I really think you might have an ageist problem.. Tbh you sound a little out there, you sound silly.❤️
Honestly if tbey do grea5 if they dint i don't care i hope im as cool as them when im that old.evem if this was wrote for me theres no way im flowing the way they are. I wouldn't be able to do that if i redid it a thousand times before release lol
Sometimes I think that rappers forget that "rappers" did not invent rhyming. Humans have been writing poetry since the dawn of time and rap comes from poetry. Anyone who's taken a literature class or spent time writing poetry could figure out how to write raps since they follow all the same rules when it comes to meter, syllables, and rhymes. I just think the incredulity some people react to Pete & Bas with kinda humorous. Like "How could they possible know how to write rhymes? They're old and they found rap music late and life." lol Yeah so what... I'm sure they're well read in the great works of literature/great writers and poets of all time, and I'm damn sure they were much better educated and are extremely literate compared to what gets churned out by public school systems these days. They're also not strangers to the music world so all they really would need help with is modern terms and slang. It comes off as a little bit of hubris to say over and over how you just can't picture them being able to write this shit. You rappers did not invent writing rhymes or even battling lyrically using rhyme (see flytes done by the Scandinavian peoples).
Million percent they write this themselves my grandparents are from the same area of London and speak the same way. The history lessons and old school vernacular they use in their rhymes is so authentic and appropriate to their age group there is no way 20 year olds are writing this. It’s way to intelligent, complex and full of authenticity from living a long and interesting life 🙌
@@AnthonyRay They def wrote some of it but the question is if someone else wrote it - why not release this yourself then with young rappers and appropriate lyrics - make a lot more money? I think Pete and Bas write it then it gets smoothed out by people. Just like every modern artist tbh.
People forget Bass (the tall one) used to be a bare knuckle fighter and A trumpet player, hence his cadence. He knows how to fill the pockets real nice . I noticed he normally have fast , longer and difficult delivery.
They write their own lyrics with the help of their grandkids to get some of the current jargon correct. They started late in life, but they (especially Bas) have a history in other genres of music.
Personally, I believe that they are heavily involved in the WRITING of the lyrics, but have professional help with the cadences and deliveries (although Bas is a proper musician). I becam convinced of this because many of their references are quite old and would go over the head of most peeps under 50 (I'm 60).
I don't understand why it's such an issue to believe two guys who have a 40+ year advantage with use of language over most rappers when they start out can write lyrics at this level. I find it harder to believe that a 20-25-year-old with very little life experience can bar up as well as someone who has a better grasp of language and decades more life experience. Why because they're young? The phrase: young, dumb and full of cum was coined for a reason. I'm 52 years old and have been listening to hip hop since the early 80s, I can run circles around most reactors when it comes down to breaking down bars. Got a couple other phrases you might want to remember: with age comes wisdom, with experience comes knowledge, knowledge is power!
Love how people constantly question whether some old dudes have what it takes to write poetry. Who else do you expect to write good poetry? 20 year olds? Ask any poet and they will say their craft only got better over time. Practice makes perfect.
I think the whole Sindhu stable of artists have assistance with working with their rhymes but also that they bring themselves to the writing table too. Execution is still dope.
Much of the lingo is old school London mixed with more modern stuff. They write with some inspiration from their grandchildren. Bas is a experienced musician also. Most Londoners have the gift of the gab as we say (good with words and speaking in a creative way). One could say they are rappers with the most experience in life out there. So that will contribute to quality in some cases, and for sure this one.
I believe the statement they made with writing themselves, cause now the grandkids are bringing out their own songs which aren't as good as these two, it's obvious. also, compare it to earlier songs of them, you can see the progression they make in writing
Both are former musicians. Pete was in a Ska band in his early days. Bas was a jazz piano player, teacher and music arranger. They both understand phrasing, syncopation which is part of jazz scanting, the basis o f voice rhythm, aka rapping.
And that is a huge key here, too, i think - they must both have major rhythm section chops, because they rap like drummers, if that even makes any sense. Experienced drummers. I don't have the technical vocab to say what i mean the right way. They just get rhythm.
fun fact, i used to bea barman that served one of britains most famous gangsters mixie walsh and he once threatened me for refusing to exchange his beer cos he thought it was bad, when it wasa cloudy beer lol
These two are appearently Old School Gangsters. Like, ACTUAL Gangsters. Mid 20th Century British Gangsters. That which you actually think about when you hear the word "Gangster" at least if you´re older than 30.
You cant even talk half their rhymes at half speed. Try matching their bars at full speed like someone wrote it for you... they've got skills. Even if someone wrote it for them, they deserve mad respect.
If I watched movies with two 70 year old actors that consistently give oscar level performances, I'm not going to think less of them if they didn't also write the whole movie. I'm not concerned with who wrote what. they're bringing something that probably no one will ever have the capability to bring again.
look at their earlier songs...they didnt come out the gate blowing everyone away...now the last few years all their stuff is crazy...you can see a progression so either they got better ghost writers over time or someone is just getting better...
These gents have easily slipped into my top 10 fav rappers list, and I'm an old hip-hop head from Detroit. The writing and rapping is top tier, you'd be hard pressed to find a bad song of theirs.
They're from a generation when it was far more common to learn an instrument, and to learn about music, ntm they were expected to learn more than young rappers when they were in school. Poetry was part of their education no doubt.
One thing that people need to understand about rapping is it's next-level difficult (not impossible) to learn such an intricate flow especially if you didn't write it. They sound natural to their flow. But thats just me ig Either way they are so effin d o p e
Until proven otherwise, i just enjoy them as if they write it them selves. A bit like I just pretend that athletes are not drugged the F up, until they get caught.
@@deanosaur808 You gotta, or pretty much anything these days will have a bitter aftertaste of "what if". =) Just relax and enjoy, and accept the occasional hero getting crushed by the weight of their lies. =)
My biggest argument is Bas consistently has much smoother cadences and smarter bars than Pete. If someone was writing for them why would they not be more even skill wise.
@@fruitlandgrizzly Well Bas has better flow than Pete, but Pete generally has the harder-hitting bars IMO. So they just fit each their own role. I would argue they make each other stand out positively.
They actually have very crazy story, Bass family use to host knuckles fight in their home, and Pete hsed to be in a british mafia , When they got old the grandkids introduce them to rap, They write their own stuff but get help with the slangs from their grandkids.
I think they’re actually spitting. The street slang they do get help with, but if you check out their freestyles you’ll notice a difference in the references
Did you see marshal meth (great diss btw) fired back? I was reading comments and he said (I paraphrase) you guys can’t keep up cause his writing team is to big and fast. WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT? That’s benzino level shooting yourself stuff and yes, small spoiler, he danced with a gun in face again.
How could people who have been on this planet for 70+ years write complex rhymes when they just started rapping? Rapping doesn't have a monopoly on Rhyme. You could ask the same question about their delivery, but there's no question they are doing that.
They drop some old school lingo in their bars, no way a young person is ghost writing for them. Also they have been around since 2017.... they have been grinding for too long to have someone writing their lyrics. If you pay attention as well, each has their own style and phrases they like to use across songs, which hints to personal preferences when creating the lyrics.
Dude, they have mentioned that they write their stuff in a couple interviews - with some lingo from grandkids. ALSO, their grandsons are in hip hop and they do the music assembly - also mentioned in interviews. And even if they didnt - it still takes talent to pull that off. Stop dissin'. They got it. And they also have musical backgrounds (also mentioned in interviews) - so why is it so hard to believe they dont write songs?
Why is it likely they did not write it? I think it's more likely they do. Who's going to write lyrics so fire and give it to a couple of geezers? Now that makes no sense.
Their grandsons are Nine and Dex. Who are Handsome Dex and 91 Shots . Check Nine and Dex's excellent Pecan Pie. Their schemes are also fly. Nine looks and sounds like a young Bas clearly related. Does not mean he IS Bas. Power quartet. One pair does old gangster bars, one does young blood bars. They bounce off each other. Not voice disguisers or other overly complex theories.
The old slang they have that covered already. The Grandkids help out with the new (and I'm pretty sure that one of them is the young guy in this video!)
I would agree with you Anthony... in the sense that this is all way too polished to be organic. They clearly have talented people behind them... and seeing that many "legit" and "young" rappers use ghost writers, I doubt they are elderly urban poets. That said, they can clearly spit even if they probably aren't writing it all themselves.
Sindhuworld Ltd seems to be a small company created by two art school graduates who decided to create viral material a few years ago. After a few false starts it seems they started writing rap stuff, recruited minor actors Peter Way and Basil Preuveneers to perform it. Semi retired. Can't find out much about Mr Way but my research shows Basil is semi retired from his legal business but also fairly musical and from a musical family They seemed to have learned to rap very well and now perform live too and I suspect they collaborate in the writing..so they have had six or seven years practice now. The music and video production is always professional. P&B play the London gangster personas really well..I think it's time the whole team came out of the shadows and took credit.
This reaction not worth your time, This dude has no clue who is listening to or what they are all about. move on. okay I get that writing sh*t. on their first song or two but for fk sake, they have dropped albums at this point.
Aint no way a young ghostwriter writes something like "Agarwood Oud from Mozambique." That comes from decades of knowledge of old man colognes, that's ultimate class. This is them, my guy.
Damn, I had no idea....
Exactly
There are so many old school references in their lyrics that they'd have to write it themselves. But there is a lot of modern slang too. I think they write their own stuff but they get it perfected by ghost writers.
Beside that though. Their flow can't be ghost written. That sh*t is real.
In the past few months, I've been watching a ton of these reacts, and it's kind of weird to me people have a hard time believing they can write, but have no issue with someone who's barely an adult writing bars. I figure if you can write, you can write. Ofc it also takes another skill to write complex rhymes, but still, if a 16-20 yo can write well, why not also someone with tons of life experience?
@@hoffafiles Yes but it's rarely one thing or another. Like the dude above said, they probably write it and get it edited by ghostwriters. But who knows really? It doesn't really matter - most big artists these days use songwriters even when they claim a writing credit on a song. No one cares.
Sir, Bas has been a piano teacher and plays various brass instruments for a huge part of his life. He knows rhythm and cadence, breath control, timing, etc
Yeah a lot of ppl dont know the full backstory, Pete was a food standards inspector, and Bas was a piano teacher, they met in a shop while Pete was doing an inspection so I understand and this shop is associated with the YT channel Sindhuworld and ‘Uncle Bal’ the owner of this shop, a lot of their early music was uploaded to this channel. There’s a documentary on YT search ‘Pete and Bas documentary’ it’s the one titled “Oldest Rappers in the World?” By the channel ‘Noisey’.
@@J4M13 yeah exactly. It’s just kind of arrogant for “rappers” (especially internet rappers, or even rap critics) to think that no one other than rappers have knowledge and feel of rhythm, flow, or even rhyme schemes. I mean hello, poetry? Breath control? Sheet music? Percussion? Like why is it so inconceivable for them (or even this guy in the video), that people who have musical background, or even simply sing and play the piano can come up with rhymes and songs better?
And Jesus has he even heard a Cockney person talk?
@@mao7💯
And don't get it twisted; he talked about he and a bunch of other fellow white "rappers and lyricists" getting together scrutinizing the authenticity of these two older white rappers.....there's some sketchy a$$ cultural gatekeeping nonsense going on here, in my view. The shttt stinks of it.
Ya but what about there early life????were they bangers?
@@ronjosephs1070 Sorry I don't remember where I got this, but iirc Pete was associated with a crime family in his youth, and Bas was bare knuckle fighting.
They still are at odds with the law tho, I remember Pete getting out of jail like 1-2 years ago they had a career pause
Yes, they do write with the help of their grandkids for the modern slang. Bas is a professional musician and songwriter by trade. This is very easy for him. He was also a music teacher for a bit. He plays the piano, sax, the trumpet, accordion, and several other instruments. His true niche is JAZZ. that is why his flow is so smooth. It is like a saxophone solo! It is also the reason Bas has great breath control. Even if they did not write it, they have a HUGE say in what goes into the song, especially with Pete. They have been doing this since 2017. The first video is called 'Shut Your Mouth'. You can hear how unpolished they were back then. No one was around to help them. Over the years they kept at it and got better with each video.
I love it when you youngsters are flabbergasted when we old heads can do what you can do, and sometimes better! You keep saying that it does not matter, yet it is obvious it does!😂😂
It does matter. That’s why it gets brought up constantly by reactors. It seems to me like they do write it. If you listen to enough of their music you can clearly tell they each have their own writing style that fits their personality and rapping cadence.
This true, that’s the reason why bas has always had crazy flows from day 1 and Pete has had to hone and develop the high level flows
This
Yeah but it's a gimmick and it's cringe af.
It's a pisstake of legit artists who have something real to say
@@Hd5Sw17 artists like who?
Don't forget Londoners have been using Cockney rhyming slang since mid 19th century - it is not a huge leap from that, to rapping! Here's a quote on history of rhyming slang: "That tradition is thought to have started in the mid-19th century as code by which either criminals confused the police, or salesmen compared notes with each other beyond the understanding of their customers". So this kind of rhythm is in old Londoners' DNA!
These two amazing and talented artists have something unique and special and no one can come close to their level, at their age, and at a time when audiences are very picky with what rappers put out! They have swagger and appeal to all! Great reaction Anthony ❤🎉
They’re old and really good so everyone defaults to them not writing their own shit. I am convinced at this point they do.
they use their Grand kids for the help with the slang for the rest they basically write it themselves
"I am incapable of writing rhymes like that, therefor I doubt the validity of people that are"
They don't write it themselves, if you believe that, you'll believe anything 😂
@@Adam-zh4hm
What I don't understand is why you are so sure they can't and/or don't write it themselves. Do you personally know them.? Why is your brain so dead set on this. I really think you might have an ageist problem.. Tbh you sound a little out there, you sound silly.❤️
@@Adam-zh4hmHow you know?
Honestly if tbey do grea5 if they dint i don't care i hope im as cool as them when im that old.evem if this was wrote for me theres no way im flowing the way they are. I wouldn't be able to do that if i redid it a thousand times before release lol
@@Adam-zh4hm I believe they come up with ideas and ghostwriter makes it happen
Sometimes I think that rappers forget that "rappers" did not invent rhyming. Humans have been writing poetry since the dawn of time and rap comes from poetry. Anyone who's taken a literature class or spent time writing poetry could figure out how to write raps since they follow all the same rules when it comes to meter, syllables, and rhymes. I just think the incredulity some people react to Pete & Bas with kinda humorous. Like "How could they possible know how to write rhymes? They're old and they found rap music late and life." lol Yeah so what... I'm sure they're well read in the great works of literature/great writers and poets of all time, and I'm damn sure they were much better educated and are extremely literate compared to what gets churned out by public school systems these days. They're also not strangers to the music world so all they really would need help with is modern terms and slang. It comes off as a little bit of hubris to say over and over how you just can't picture them being able to write this shit. You rappers did not invent writing rhymes or even battling lyrically using rhyme (see flytes done by the Scandinavian peoples).
Thank you the likes of shakespeare etc are the OG lyricists it's insulting he thinks they to old to write
finally someone with some education!
Thank You! ❤
The Vikings even had a tradition of competitive dissing poetry, called flyting. It was basically battle rap, except poems.
@@el_equidistante 😉😎
Million percent they write this themselves my grandparents are from the same area of London and speak the same way. The history lessons and old school vernacular they use in their rhymes is so authentic and appropriate to their age group there is no way 20 year olds are writing this. It’s way to intelligent, complex and full of authenticity from living a long and interesting life 🙌
I respect your opinion, but I don't think they wrote it.
@@AnthonyRay They def wrote some of it but the question is if someone else wrote it - why not release this yourself then with young rappers and appropriate lyrics - make a lot more money? I think Pete and Bas write it then it gets smoothed out by people. Just like every modern artist tbh.
People forget Bass (the tall one) used to be a bare knuckle fighter and A trumpet player, hence his cadence. He knows how to fill the pockets real nice . I noticed he normally have fast , longer and difficult delivery.
They write their own lyrics with the help of their grandkids to get some of the current jargon correct. They started late in life, but they (especially Bas) have a history in other genres of music.
Their grandkids helped them with slang when they first started. Now, they get it.. So it's safe to say they write it themselves.
If you go back to their very first songs they ever put out, you can see the progression in they're rapping and their writing.
They don't write it
But... They do Liveshows ? How do you fake that ? (I realize you can of course fake that, but if you look at their Liveshows... it's not fake)
NWA’s lyrics were mostly written by ice cube and The D.O.C. - doesn’t make it any less awesome.
Personally, I believe that they are heavily involved in the WRITING of the lyrics, but have professional help with the cadences and deliveries (although Bas is a proper musician). I becam convinced of this because many of their references are quite old and would go over the head of most peeps under 50 (I'm 60).
I don't understand why it's such an issue to believe two guys who have a 40+ year advantage with use of language over most rappers when they start out can write lyrics at this level. I find it harder to believe that a 20-25-year-old with very little life experience can bar up as well as someone who has a better grasp of language and decades more life experience. Why because they're young? The phrase: young, dumb and full of cum was coined for a reason. I'm 52 years old and have been listening to hip hop since the early 80s, I can run circles around most reactors when it comes down to breaking down bars. Got a couple other phrases you might want to remember: with age comes wisdom, with experience comes knowledge, knowledge is power!
Love how people constantly question whether some old dudes have what it takes to write poetry. Who else do you expect to write good poetry? 20 year olds? Ask any poet and they will say their craft only got better over time. Practice makes perfect.
I think the whole Sindhu stable of artists have assistance with working with their rhymes but also that they bring themselves to the writing table too. Execution is still dope.
This old geezer bas just pulled out a tech n9ne level rhyme scheme and a smooth delivery at the age of like 70
Pete and Bas create more cope than any other artists in all of music. Their age forces immediate self reflection. This phenomenon is a constant.
Bas is actually a musician. The play on words and subtext is mature.
These two gents ❣️
I JUST CAN'T 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Some people really think rhyming was invented by rappers
“Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.”
Music is not a bird in a cage or a dog on a leash- it’s a cloud in the sky that chooses it’s own self-expressive form.
Much of the lingo is old school London mixed with more modern stuff. They write with some inspiration from their grandchildren. Bas is a experienced musician also. Most Londoners have the gift of the gab as we say (good with words and speaking in a creative way). One could say they are rappers with the most experience in life out there. So that will contribute to quality in some cases, and for sure this one.
I don't know if they write their own stuff, but if they don't, some of these other rappers need to hire the same writers.
I believe the statement they made with writing themselves, cause now the grandkids are bringing out their own songs which aren't as good as these two, it's obvious.
also, compare it to earlier songs of them, you can see the progression they make in writing
Loved it, love Pete n Bas, thank you 🙏🦉❤️🐊👍
Both are former musicians. Pete was in a Ska band in his early days. Bas was a jazz piano player, teacher and music arranger. They both understand phrasing, syncopation which is part of jazz scanting, the basis o f voice rhythm, aka rapping.
And that is a huge key here, too, i think - they must both have major rhythm section chops, because they rap like drummers, if that even makes any sense. Experienced drummers. I don't have the technical vocab to say what i mean the right way.
They just get rhythm.
You are right on target. Jazz scanting requires knowledge of rhythm and syncopation. They both have it. It gives them access to endless flows.
fun fact, i used to bea barman that served one of britains most famous gangsters mixie walsh and he once threatened me for refusing to exchange his beer cos he thought it was bad, when it wasa cloudy beer lol
These two are appearently Old School Gangsters.
Like, ACTUAL Gangsters. Mid 20th Century British Gangsters. That which you actually think about when you hear the word "Gangster" at least if you´re older than 30.
they are writing , spitting, and they are true gangsters on the real real
You cant even talk half their rhymes at half speed. Try matching their bars at full speed like someone wrote it for you... they've got skills. Even if someone wrote it for them, they deserve mad respect.
If I watched movies with two 70 year old actors that consistently give oscar level performances, I'm not going to think less of them if they didn't also write the whole movie. I'm not concerned with who wrote what. they're bringing something that probably no one will ever have the capability to bring again.
look at their earlier songs...they didnt come out the gate blowing everyone away...now the last few years all their stuff is crazy...you can see a progression so either they got better ghost writers over time or someone is just getting better...
These gents have easily slipped into my top 10 fav rappers list, and I'm an old hip-hop head from Detroit. The writing and rapping is top tier, you'd be hard pressed to find a bad song of theirs.
jacaranda is a purple flowered tree. lol blowing loud
They write the songs themselves, but their grandkids help with all the modern slang and whatnot
Not sure why I thought you've done more Pete and Bas.. Sindhu Sesh, Longthorne Shot Gun, Browns. Catch up bro! They got some fire out here! 🔥🔥🔥
Longthorne Shotgun is one of my favorites. Pete and Bas are artists. Dudes are out cold.
They're from a generation when it was far more common to learn an instrument, and to learn about music, ntm they were expected to learn more than young rappers when they were in school. Poetry was part of their education no doubt.
Everyone comes to the same conclusion......whether they write it or they have a ghostwriter, Pete and Bas are the ones ultimately spittin it!!!
One thing that people need to understand about rapping is it's next-level difficult (not impossible) to learn such an intricate flow especially if you didn't write it.
They sound natural to their flow. But thats just me ig
Either way they are so effin d o p e
I love them!! ❤
.......I can't believe what i'm hearing. This is straight fire. 🔥 💯
These guys are the real deal..proper old gangsters
They have interviews where they go through all the writing stuff. No mystery. They write it. A lot of old man bars there too
I don't overthink it, it's a fire delivery
Until proven otherwise, i just enjoy them as if they write it them selves. A bit like I just pretend that athletes are not drugged the F up, until they get caught.
Innocent until proven guilty 😅👍
@@deanosaur808 You gotta, or pretty much anything these days will have a bitter aftertaste of "what if". =) Just relax and enjoy, and accept the occasional hero getting crushed by the weight of their lies. =)
My biggest argument is Bas consistently has much smoother cadences and smarter bars than Pete. If someone was writing for them why would they not be more even skill wise.
@@fruitlandgrizzly Well Bas has better flow than Pete, but Pete generally has the harder-hitting bars IMO. So they just fit each their own role. I would argue they make each other stand out positively.
@@hahahaha--__-- regardless my point is if they had a ghost writer you wouldnt see them each be so unique.
They have this guy counting on his fingers LOL!
For the amount of old people dying of dementia these days. it good to see them keeping their mind Sharp.👍👍
They actually have very crazy story, Bass family use to host knuckles fight in their home, and Pete hsed to be in a british mafia , When they got old the grandkids introduce them to rap, They write their own stuff but get help with the slangs from their grandkids.
Straight 🔥 as usual. More!
I think they’re actually spitting. The street slang they do get help with, but if you check out their freestyles you’ll notice a difference in the references
BISH,BASH,BOSH THE LATEST FIREWORKS NEEDS LOOKING AT🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Check out general corner ft Pete and Bas. Also dropped a new song named the gentlemen 🔥🔥
Old Estate, plugged In with fumes, Mr worldwide, Browns, matter of fact everything they do is fire.
Did you see marshal meth (great diss btw) fired back? I was reading comments and he said (I paraphrase) you guys can’t keep up cause his writing team is to big and fast. WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT? That’s benzino level shooting yourself stuff and yes, small spoiler, he danced with a gun in face again.
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How could people who have been on this planet for 70+ years write complex rhymes when they just started rapping?
Rapping doesn't have a monopoly on Rhyme. You could ask the same question about their delivery, but there's no question they are doing that.
They write, they havevtheir grand kids help em with new street slang.
Yes, they write their own music.
They arw the real deal and si very dope
They drop some old school lingo in their bars, no way a young person is ghost writing for them. Also they have been around since 2017.... they have been grinding for too long to have someone writing their lyrics. If you pay attention as well, each has their own style and phrases they like to use across songs, which hints to personal preferences when creating the lyrics.
Word is “the grandkids help them with the slang only! They tour and just released an album….11-22-24
Mate an absolute banger
dont doubt the old masters!
Dude, they have mentioned that they write their stuff in a couple interviews - with some lingo from grandkids. ALSO, their grandsons are in hip hop and they do the music assembly - also mentioned in interviews.
And even if they didnt - it still takes talent to pull that off. Stop dissin'. They got it. And they also have musical backgrounds (also mentioned in interviews) - so why is it so hard to believe they dont write songs?
Incredible reaction
They do write it themselves. They only run it by their kids/grandkids for help with slang.
They do live shows all over the UK so they definitely wrapped themselves. I don't know if they write it or not.
The writers and them pen together.
Why is it likely they did not write it? I think it's more likely they do. Who's going to write lyrics so fire and give it to a couple of geezers? Now that makes no sense.
Listen, the ideas they rap are not ghetto kid shit. This is Gold level gangster, Speaking this way is only possible if you are gold level
Their grandsons are Nine and Dex. Who are Handsome Dex and 91 Shots . Check Nine and Dex's excellent Pecan Pie. Their schemes are also fly. Nine looks and sounds like a young Bas clearly related. Does not mean he IS Bas. Power quartet. One pair does old gangster bars, one does young blood bars. They bounce off each other. Not voice disguisers or other overly complex theories.
Here we have 2 blokes in their 70's, with over 60 years of life experience and yet writing a rap would be too hard...really ?
DUDE... THIS IS PURE 🔥
They Write and perform don't get it swisted these guys have been real in the UK just bringing it to the world Keep Up
Yeah ! I believe they write themselves.
The old slang they have that covered already. The Grandkids help out with the new (and I'm pretty sure that one of them is the young guy in this video!)
They mostly write themselves, but their grandkids help them with some of the lingo. There what's up.
Their new track is called GENTLMEN , they also feature on a track called BADDEST
they actually rap and their grandkids help them
I dare you to watch Mr Worldwide or Longthorne Shotgun and still remain sceptical of their ability.
watch longthrone shotgun, they write their lyrics thoughout the video........
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I mean, its not that hard if you know their background a little more. One of them is, or at least was, an english teacher.
I’ve seen them live in London can tell you now they ain’t mining. What you see is what you get
I would agree with you Anthony... in the sense that this is all way too polished to be organic. They clearly have talented people behind them... and seeing that many "legit" and "young" rappers use ghost writers, I doubt they are elderly urban poets. That said, they can clearly spit even if they probably aren't writing it all themselves.
Worth checking out nine and dex's track that is out now (Their Grandsons)
People write for Kanye and Drake, not for Pete and Bas.
Nine and Dex - Pecan pie.
Nine and Dex are the writers.
They write this. Their shit.
They write there on
Sindhuworld Ltd seems to be a small company created by two art school graduates who decided to create viral material a few years ago. After a few false starts it seems they started writing rap stuff, recruited minor actors Peter Way and Basil Preuveneers to perform it. Semi retired. Can't find out much about Mr Way but my research shows Basil is semi retired from his legal business but also fairly musical and from a musical family They seemed to have learned to rap very well and now perform live too and I suspect they collaborate in the writing..so they have had six or seven years practice now.
The music and video production is always professional. P&B play the London gangster personas really well..I think it's time the whole team came out of the shadows and took credit.
What wonderful praise...until the end. That's like asking "exactly when did you stop beating your wife?"
Check out their latest called Bish! Bash! Bosh!
Longthorne Shotgun. You havent done it, but need to
They write it
This reaction not worth your time, This dude has no clue who is listening to or what they are all about. move on. okay I get that writing sh*t. on their first song or two but for fk sake, they have dropped albums at this point.
Their reference are way too og they definitely write it themselves and btw why would anyone give out this certified hits in the first place tbh
ghostwriting would be difficult with their "old people pronunciation" especially with these rhyme schemes.