As a fan, I hate it being implied that a Williams driver should act like he has 3 team mates, we want to see all the drivers pushing and going for every possible overtake, regardless of who's money is bankrolling your drive!
I agree. When customer teams are chastised for racing the works teams too hard, that's a recipe for the kind of culture that will eventually kill the sport.
Complete agreement. Yeah, Russell should keep his position as a Merc reserve driver in mind, but as long as he is in a Williams car, his first priority is to Williams, and that means taking positions when he can. Bottas made a move that caused Russell to flinch. Ok, fair to criticize the flinch, but what came next wasn't anyone's fault, and for Toto to be upset is disappointing. I thought better of Toto than that.
I commented this elsewhere too, but I don't think Toto has an issue with George going for the overtake. I think he has an issue with walking over to Bottas after/acting the way he did and then acting the way he did in the interview and making explicit an issue that was internal to Mercedes (Bottas v Russel for the seat next year).
But hes talking about the absolute crazy move. It was like 5% chance of getting it, 75% chance crash, 20% braking too late. Russell saw the squeeze, and still tried to send it. Not a good racing decision
Russell is a Williams driver, not a Mercedes driver. It's not fair of Wolff to expect him to approach a Mercedes differently. I understand he wants that, because he's the team principal, but in the end Russell is a driver for another team, so he's just doing his job.
Don’t agree. Mercedes has invested huge amounts of time and money in Russell and he wouldn’t be in the Williams without them. To say Wolff shouldn’t criticise him when he causes Mercedes damage, costs, and points is ridiculous. It’s like Man Utd developing a player and whilst on loan to Liverpool, that player does a dangerous tackle on a Man Utd player and injures him. The manager of Man Utd would be right to criticise the player he has created and loaned out for doing damage to the team that invested in him. You could argue that Russel as a Mercedes driver shouldn’t be in the Williams at all, but he is because Wolff got him in there for experience. IMHO Russell should be in the Mercedes this year. He hasn’t done himself any favours in getting into the Mercedes next year. It’s called biting the hand that feeds you
@@damedusa5107 I'm not going to try and pretend to be an expert in racing, but Russel had plenty of space on the left during the overtake. He took way too much of a risk going so close to the limits of the track. It definitely seems like he was blinded by the prospect of overtaking the Mercedes to prove himself. That's what Wolff is referring to when he talks about a global perspective. It's especially dumb for him to keep placing the blame on Bottas after the fact, it was a Russel fuck up 100%.
The muddy politics of team managers managing drivers who work for other teams, supplying parts/support to other teams and expecting them to race you differently, etc
Russel should look at this from his own career's perspective. What's more important, scoring a P11 instead of P12 in one race for Williams, or pleasing your future team boss, ensuring a spot in a race/championship winning team?
@@thomasvleminckx it wasnt p11 or p12, it was for p9 which meant points, something Russell should be striving for, where as Bottas should've been far and away from this situation
@@thomasvleminckx he’s not signed with Mercedes for next year and there’s no guarantee he will be even if he cedes that position. He has no reason to race Mercedes differently than any other team, especially when finishing in the points in a Williams would be huge
The team's environment is just crap. Till 2020, they were like "Money is everything". Now with the cost cap in place, they're affected the most. So that's why they are so f***ed up. Because they know that building a whole new car whill cost a lot of money and it'll simply get them closer to the limit of spending which they might get a penalty for if they exceed. And remember they are fighting for the championship so they've to run till the end considering how strong Red Bull is this year.
george ran into Botas and this miserable princess still has a grudge! He is the most pumped F1 driver by all the English-speaking media! Pathetic whimsical child
Wolff saying Russell should race differently against Mercedes compared to other teams is really bad. Forget Russell giving Bottas stick, the fact that Merc feel Russell should race different has implications about the integrity of the sport
exactly. they might think it will motivate george, but it clearly encourages him to try and outshine valtteri, and in turn makes valtteri less likely to give up the position and risk crashing.
George will either rise to the challenge, or he will continue with an arrogance that he has not earned, yet displays so blatantly at every opportunity. A true champion needs far more than one opportunistic result.
I mean the fact that he can overtake him with a garbage car while Bottas is in one of the best on the field is telling. Toto should stop teasing George if he wants him to be less aggressive, I believe that he plays a huge role in this situation
Bottas just doesn't want to admit his not good enough and Merc should have gotten rid of him and replace him by George, they might regret it If they lose the Tem championship.
@@tigerpjm i understand that but is that who Wolff wants as a driver? Somebody who doesn't race to win as much as possible? Somebody who doesn't go for the gap? Just out of respect for mercedes?
@Hadite84 Couldn't have said it much better than myself, us fans want that excitement, otherwise you're gonna lose a hell of a lot of them with petty things like this.
@@chrisrea6841 well. He didn’t say he shouldn’t race for the place. But shouldn’t try it on a completely wet lane and just plant it on the grass. And it was mainly the reaction. As he literally went to bottes and slapped him. The last thing merc wants is another Lewis roseberg. It is also completely George’s fault. As he literally lost control of his car and slammed into bottas
Isn't it almost Red Bull's motto that they'd rather a driver put the car in the wall going for glory, rather than playing it safe. I'm sure Horner would love to poach Russell to stick it to Mercedes.
Everyone's acting like his only choice is going to Mercedes. First off Williams look much better this year, new management and the opportunity of the new regs next year leave them in a decent position to have a good car next year and beyond. Beyond that there is a small chance Aston Martin get fed up with Vettel, Alpine may drop Ocon also never doubt a team to rip up a contract for the right driver (I'm talking about you Red Bull!)
Funny enough Renault Sport Series on Twitter even tweeted to MercedesF1 saying they’ll sponsor George’s registration fees for that Clio Cup race at Monza soon.
Exactly, this crash kept them in the lead of the championship instead of getting no points and being second in the championship with 18 points behind verstappen
@@NF650i the argument isn't about the speed. They are saying he should give special treatment to one team over another. It's elitist to think somebody has no right to try an overtake just because they might join your team.
@@drebin7188 F1 is full of politics behind the scenes. However, F1 is more than just winning a race - it's akin to a game of chess with everyone striving for the bigger picture for the team first, and although Russell is not racing for Mercedes, he was for the junior programme and Williams is involved with Mercedes, and as such Russell "should" have taken into account the risk vs reward against a stronger ally with a lot more experienced driver.
Maybe Toto should call Horner and ask him for advice on a situation where the second car is struggling to stay on points. I'm sure Horner has some great advice on that
Yeah. Russell should forget Mercedes. If he doesn't he has zero chance to win the title. This because Hamilton doesn't want him on the other car. Too fast and too ambitious. As long as Hamilton keeps racing for MB he wants someone like Bottas on his side, fast enough to ensure the team title but not fast enough to challenge.
Exactly. I'm sure getting valuable points on the board for Williams is more of a motivation for George at that moment than any motivation to 'prove something' to Mercedes, if there is any.
That's stretching things. Hamilton still had to get his car out of the gravel and reclaim 10 odd places, How many other drivers would've kept that cool?
@@kieronjohnson8834 Get off you high horse dude. All i said was that this incident was a blessing in disguise and that Wolff shouldn't cry as much. Yes, Hamilton drove brilliantly but that doesn't change the fact that he was incredibly lucky.
@@Bahamuttiamat to some extent yes, but also it looks like merc might have to fight for championships in the future, and bottas clearly not cutting it. George is obviously very talented and is probably the easiest option
Russell is too arrogant and don’t know he committed this mistake himself and blaming the accident to Bottas. I can see that Mercedes will not take this kind of driver into their team.
@@team2727 bottas didnt give space bruh why didnt they show the halo cam of bottas huh cus he clearly squeezed out russell and even gave russell the 🖕 finger when russell went over to his car
Team orders are one thing. But asking a customer team driver to basically stand down because he's about to overtake a car from the supplier team seems nuts to me.
Well said I am not sure that another team should even be suggesting that a driver in there pay but not in their team should be asked not to overtake the team.. conflict of interest......
Ferrari does it all the time. See 1997 Jerez. Jean Today, Ferrari team boss, walked down to the Sauber guys to tell them to hold up the Williams so Schumacher can catch up. Why? They were using Ferrari engines.
It seems nuts to you and all who agree because you are looking at the situation and choosing to interpret what he meant in you own way. Russell is a Mercedes driver on loan to Williams and so contractually he is actually part of the Mercedes team, and we all saw how tightly integrated that agreement is with him being first choice to fill in for Lewis last season. In most cases teams would normally pick a test driver for the race but they chose George. Which underlines his status and how highly he is viewed by his bosses at.......Mercedes Toto wasn't directing his annoyance at the concept of a customer team taking a risky chance at a works team He was directing it at a Mercedes driver taking a risky chance towards another Mercedes driver. Both signed to him, both under the same Mercedes Umbrella.
Was russels’s fault but I don’t blame him at all for trying. As senna once said “if you don’t go for a gap that exist you no longer racing driver, bottas however did nothing wrong he put his car in the best defensive position he could
I think Bottas is competing with Vettel at the moment to see which one can have the most inexplicably poor and desperately disappointing record over the last two seasons.....
the problem was, the gap was still there. bottas pushed him wide and forced the incident which would not have happened otherwise. when someone has that much speed on you, you concede to the pass. you dont push them off the track. this was bottas, and the entitlement mentality of merc causing an incident.
yeah poor george is getting let down, i mean his life could be worse he could be driving a f2 car after all. sometimes drivers and people in general need to appreciate what they have and not what they dont. This accident was a good reason why george is still better off in the williams and move to mercedes when hes ready.
@@warwickhunt yes im awere, imsaying he should be thankful hes in f1 this accident and the way he displayed his ego is a good example why hes not in a mercedes yet.
You're not wrong heck I wouldn't have been too surprised if that was a planned occurrence by Mercedes since it turned like 7/8 into 2/DNF so technically more points over the course of the race but meh maybe if toto saw the other result he wouldn't be angry just be disappointed in the risky move since Bottas could barely know Russell was there. Than also yeah that was one of Lewis's spots so Toto is justified in Russel should have made a safer pass but Toto is wrong that Russel shouldn't have tried that move.
But Mercedes lost important constructors points, it's not exactly free to repair a quite damaged car, and Russel is linked to Mercedes, so since Russel is blamed for the accident, maybe it's also seen as bad behavior, which certainly can give bad reputation to the Mercedes brand itself.
@nijuo joing I guess thats because lewis is a more capable driver who is good in the wet? Im pretty sure if lewis was in the same position as Russel he would not have hit the grass and spun out of his own doing and if he did he wouldnt blame other drivers for it.
Bottas was on cold tyres and would have been faster within half a lap. A 'round the outside' move which would result in you defending the position for next 30 laps ISN'T the best decision.
@@hamonryechinaski180 are you saying drivers shouldn't overtake faster cars that makes no sense and he doesn't need to defend if bottas is clearly faster later on, but i doubt bottas would of been able to get past he was that slow.
@@micky6j listen, my friend. Watch Lewis overtaking Norris. Norris does EXACTLY what Bottas did but Lewis went past anyway. IF George wantrd to overtake a car that was only shower whilst it was switching on its tyres then it a) had to do it without taking out faster car and b) not defend too aggressively. Sadly George messed up big time. Lewis shows how it should be done, George costs Mercedes £1 mil due to hus mistake THEN makes it hard for everyone for entire year due to spurging out. Cue Bottas/Russall rivalry stories, Mercedes tough choices stories etc etc etc. Watch Norris/Hamilton overtaking, Palmer's take is free on you tube
@@hamonryechinaski180 how can russell defend aggressively if hes the one overtaking and norris made his defence early unlike bottas who only moved after russell started his move as russell said after the race ( it was a verstappen move ) palmer doesn't even talk about the late move from bottas even tho that was what russell is mad about. disappointing from palmer to not even talk about what russell was mad about, its got nothing to with the space bottas left on track but when he moved to the right but all palmer talks about is the space on track, shame palmer is normally on point not this time tho.
Are you dreaming? Williams can't even beat the low powered car of Kimi! For Russel to make that move agains a Mercedes and Bottas, Russel is clearly showing frustration. What that means is, he's not a team player which I'm sure the Mercedes team will look in consideration.
@@syapol54 Why would he be a team player for a different team? George is just minding his own race but due to the circumstances, he crashed to Bottas. If they didn't come together then I'm sure Toto would have different comments.
You can’t complain when when you’re the top team for as long as Mercedes and your have a guy in the mid field where he doesn’t belong. If anything, the people who want it the most are going to push and the comfortable ones will perish. Willams has had a crappy decade and if they have a chance, why wouldn’t they take it? Because of future potential? Politics within the sport consumes so much for only 20 drivers in the entire world. Let them race
Considering where the dry line is on that part of the circuit, Russel should've know the gap wasn't there. Literally everyone was passing on the inside at that time of the race...
@@redbullsauberpetronas they did back in the day with Vettel and Webber. It was only after 2010 that Webber sucked and Vettel was the de facto no1 in the team.
Russell taking out Valtteri allowed Lewis to get back on the lead lap.... Toto should be saying thank you to George EDIT: Wow this was complete sarcasm when posted.. but I forgot anything regarding Lewis is fightin words lol. Look NOBODY can take ANYTHING away from Lewis and his accomplishments! All I'm saying is in the rare moments he makes a mistake, an incredible amount of good luck always seems to mitigate the damage.
Lol Lewis went off track avoiding Russell. If Georgey boy got the f out the way Lewis would have not been in that position in the first place and the crash with Bottas probably would have been avoided.
@@MrSilverfish12 No Russell was literally getting out the way for Lewis when he did go off because Lewis was being impatient. Watch the footage of it in this video you see Russell swing wide to let Lewis by but he came in too fast. Also listen to the post-race interviews from both Hamilton and Russell they both say the same thing
@@mauricemotors8207 he had every right to go for the move and every other driver would of done the same. If they say they wouldn't then they are not world championships material.
“Being a racing driver means you are racing with other people and if you no longer go for a gap that exists you are no longer a racing driver because we are competing.” - Ayrton Senna
agree... Senna is a legend. but don't forget one thing. Senna is Senna. George isn't him. There are so much Senna is a legend at. no one is comparable to him. He knows where is the grip even before entering into the corner. Senna is truly a legend. so sad that he died here in this track of a car failure. If he is still alive he be definitely advising a team like Nikki did. truly saddened
this, also it feels like toto is actually talking to bottas while saying it to george. Some parents do that kind of thing. Scolding the other child so the other one at fault listens to it without being emotional.
100% He hit a bit of wet grass. That's the end of the story, you chalk it up to the conditions, and you move on. I have no idea why they're fighting other than for the TV.
@@KiLLJoYTH-cam right?? Like he went for a pass, hit a wet patch on the outside and spun. What else is there to it. Its between Russell and Bottas to figure things out between them
@@matteo5752 Hamilton disagrees with you to the extend that when asked about the "incident" he didn't know what they were talking about. When explained he shook his head confused. He didn't even consider it.
Mercedes reaction reminds me of Albon saying “they race me so hard” last year. It’s like they expect teams they supply engines to to stay out of their way and not give them any trouble. I wonder how they feel about McLaren.
@@abdelhamidkhaled4812 yep mclaren bought back all the stake mercedes had in them. I think mercedes still has some but very little compared to what it used to before.
Toto clearly is not acting in the best interests of his clients but his team, this is classic case of conflict of interest. F1 needs to seriously consider banning team bosses from managing drivers full stop. There's clearly an ethical compromise in having one team boss be in control over the career of another driver. It is already bad enough that if another team wants to enter negotiations with Russell they must speak with Toto, but now were seeing Toto telling Russell not to compete against his main drivers or else. This blatant stand over tactic undermines the integrity of the sport itself and the fact that Toto feels comfortable enough to do it publicly show's F1 needs address the rot. Left unchecked it will only get worse.
@@bruce_son WTF are you saying. Mercedes or Daimler does not have any stake in mclaren. Wolff use to own shares in williams but has long since sold those. George is and remains a mercedes young driver. This is the equivalent of Gasly or Tsunoda crashing into max or sergio. Neither Helmut nor Christian would be entirely happy.
Toto went down in my eyes after his comment tbh. How can you expect for a driver of another team to treat your car like he is a part of mercedes and “not get risky”. He is a racing driver not a safety expert. If there is a chance of taking any points its his job to take that chance. However, Losing his temper after the crash was pretty scummy
Completely agree, i've always liked toto but implying that russel isn't allowed to challenge a mercedes is horrifying. It all seems to come down to the fact that toto refuses to admit that bottas is not good enough for that seat, not even an effective number 2 driver anymore. Proof in the fact he couldn't even outpace a williams.
That's always been the case in F1. Do you really think that Charles Leclerc would have done the same thing to Ferrari, while driving an Alpha Romeo ? You don't make a silly move on the driver of the team you want to rejoin: that's simply not a wise thing. And Russell even kept on saying that he was not the one to blame after being corrected by Toto. Lewis backed off when trying the same move on Nando and waited a few laps to finally pass him. Like you, I really didn't like the way George behaved after the crash: calm down boy and be respectful of the elders.
Okay so let me get this straight. Toto thinks that it is impossible that Bottas handled the situation differently because it was Geroge overtaking him, but George should have handled the situation differently because he was overtaking Bottas? Thats quite a double standrad, isn’t it?
This is one of those well yes, but actually no moments. There are stakes for Russell to act more meekly, but not really for Bottas to act differently towards Russell. If anything, Bottas would only lose face and value if he did either just intentionally give him the position for no apparent reason, or somehow try to scare or even wreck Russell there.
I think the most likely case is that toto doesn’t want another vettel-ferrari incident by blaming bottas. Merc still have an entire season ahead of them and with how strong rb is this year, toto definitely doesn’t want to ruin his relationship with bottas, who will be a key part of getting the wcc
@@ur_boyfriend8612 yeah fine but you don’t have to drag russel about it.. russel was right, why is bottas there he should be racin bottas.. toto should have wisely said i will talk to both and no statement to the damn press
Fighting yeah but doing rookie mistakes while trying to prove being something is sad from Russels side. Attack against Bottas after the crash proves it he needs to be more mature.
@@TheSpeederist At that point bottas should have let russel pass instead of pushing him out on the grass on a wet track. he was 1 lap down and driving slowly. Don't even understand why he didnt get a blue flag.
Basically Toto is like an angry dad.. "This is my car, that is your toy.. Maybe one day I'll let you drive my car if you're a good little boy, but until then you can play with your toy and be patient. But if you put one fingerprint on my car before then, I'm gonna fucking bury you."
I'm genuinely glad Russell did that move. That's what racing drivers to after all, they try to overtake as much as they can! Horner said (in the case of Gasly, in 2019) that he wants a driver that pushes boundaries even so if that results in crashing the car once in a while.
@@patricklemire9278 This was a rookie move. The immaturity, recklessness , the damage . It was also premeditated , why did he pick Bottas for his shootout to prove something to Merc? He is proving to Merc he might not be the asset they thought he was and Bottas is the team player , level headed professional .
Toto is trying to play the were better card and like Lawrence & son , max throw a huge tantrum and make a huge thing of it does toto care nope but it's great publicity
If the crash hadn't happened, and instead George either completed the overtaking or stopped and overtook him later, the fact would've been that a Williams overtook a Mercedes, Bottas' Mercedes. Instead, the crash shifted the focus from Bottas to Russell, and Mercedes is capitalizing off that as to not attract too much attention to what would've happened if the crash hadn't happened.
@@whatever4847 That is what I've been thinking, the crash served as a saving grace for Bottas otherwise awful race. HE WAS GETTING OVERTAKEN BY A WILLIAMS! Does that chap deserve to have to keep the Mercedes seat, with all honesty and objectively speaking: absolutely not.
@@SamSpeed90 these are horrible takes lol. having to spend a bunch of money scrapping a car and getting no points in the constructors race is not what mercedes wanted. russell should have known not to pass bottas. even if you want to, it looks childish that you don't understand your place at this time. no one, i mean no one, gives a shit about russell scoring a p9 in the race. what people (toto, mercedes) care about is the bottas/hamilton cars.
@@bacardibum Let's forget about GR for a second, Bottas has shown that he's severely lacking as a racing driver, he never was impressive before, but now he gets himself in embarrassing situations such as staying buried in midfield about to be overtaken by Williams and other backmarkers. I mean he even got passed by Lance stroll, and it was quite the overtake. The worst thing is that we all know the Aston car is far from being competitive. Instead Wolff needs to shift the conversation to something else, to try and hide the team's embarrassment
Russell reacted and twitched his steering right due to lack of experience, causing the crash when he dipped his right side tyres on to the grass and it slipped forwards causing him to steer into Bottas. He had half a car width from Bottas when he was attempting that pass and Bottas barely made any movements towards him. Had he kept his cool and maintained his line, he would've passed Bottas. Considering how emotional he was about the whole incident and his childish reaction at attacking Bottas after the crash when the replay was pretty darn obvious who went onto a bad bit of track(grass) and thereafter crashing into the other car (aka, Russel), it shows he couldn't keep his cool and control his actions. There's a difference between seeing a gap and going for it, and knowing how to take it or leave it, vs seeing a gap, and going for it, but forgetting all the other conditions and consequences that could result from it. Russell is not that good yet to make that move in those conditions (wet patches on Bottas' left, wet grass on his right). Considering he did make the attempt, and failed, he should've learned that he had a responsibility in how it turned out (and by so doing, also demonstrate that he can learn from it). But his reaction immediately after the incident proved that he did not have the capacity to take such a responsibility (he immediately laid blame on others for his mistake - Bottas didn't force him onto the grass patch, he drove onto it entirely on his own, if Hamilton/Max/Perez/Vettel/Riccardo did that move, they wouldn't have been that spooked by the slight drift of Bottas as they would expect him to close the angle a little due to wet patches on his left). Hence, Toto had to tell him so - don't be a cunt, Russel was letting some misplaced sense of entitlement to Bottas' position (in some probable future) get in the way of his actual progress and development re: F1 experience. - Bottas being cautious on slicks in the wet vs Russel being a cunt seeing "Oh it's Bottas, time to show him who's better". - that ultimately resulted in a very dangerous crash, and lots of expensive damage to the cars, all in a bid that Russel did something that was in spirit in his own interest to more definitively guarantee his future position in Mercedes, rather than to actually help Williams win anything. (afterall, there are in different class of cars, Bottas' will actually win points and podiums, Russell's hasn't gotten a single point yet til now, and its already the 7th race). Overtaking Bottas at that point in time would've proved nothing. Anyone can over take a car freshly swapped to cold slicks in the wet, on a straight (but Russell still failed it). Essentially, Russell was only doing that move to flex over NOTHING, and he fucked up, costing millions to Mercedes whom he was trying to 'prove' himself. Hence the above "I know Bottas for 5 years, he isn't here to prove anything... but what you did was to attempt to prove something and you failed (sic)".
@@angryhooman3154 he is a 33% shareholder in the Mercedes F1 team but has no shares in AM F1 team, only road car company. He had 15% shares in Williams F1 team which he sold but then received 5% back which he has till date.
I agree. Going for the overtake was the right decision and if it had worked we'd be cheering at him now. But with this outcome, he should've apologized immediately and everyone would have understood.
@Romans Nine Well I don't like the response from Wolff neither. I feel this sport can have a little more emotion and a little less politics from managers and team bosses, parading these guys around to always say the right things.
I’d be mad too if some old on his way out of F1 driver blocked me because he can’t heat his tires in 2 laps and is about to get passed while a lap down. Russel is in the right. Toto and botASS are vaginas who need to change their clearly overly bloody tampons.
It's ridiculous. I guess every driver should step asside for Mercedes, let them 1-2 every race until the sport dies. I hope Russell keeps fighting whoever is in front of him and that he can help Williams grow, they're doing better this year.
He shouldnt have apologised later, he should have told Toto to fuck off, but I guess the prospect of a Mercedes seat is just too compelling. Hes been staying at Williams far longer than he needed to because Toto kept stalling him while other teams were already interested. I really hope that whatever team he ends up in absolutely destroys Mercedes with the new regulations.
@@Chuckiele I agree! I can't stand Tonto Wolff! What about him calling FIA asking for blue flags in Spain? argh they should create a new F1 called Mercedes Only F1 and race there.
so he's not allowed to compete against the mercedes, even though bottas is doing badly enough for it to become a situation where the two of them are competing for positions
This year Russell is basically auditioning for the Merc seat. I don't really see how it's going to impress the team you are trying to get into by writing off one of their cars. That's why Toto said he should have been more careful. Imagine if Bottas and Russell were teammates at Merc when this happened it would be Spain 2016 all over again. You think Merc want that??
True. When Verstappen held off Hamilton on DSR for two rounds he made himself wide in that same spot and it was (rightfully) called brilliant defending.
@@Janfey it's almost like drivers have to judge track conditions into their decision making instead of screaming and swearing like little brats to the opposite driver the second they spin out into them.
The fact that a driver from another team has to treat Bottas like he’s a teammate is ridiculous furthermore Bottas should’ve never been in a position to get over taken by a Williams in the first place
100% .. it’s fucking embarrassing for wolff to call out Russell like that. I don’t care he’s a developmental driver for Mercedes or not. The kid had a faster line, and was clear to pass. It was a mistake by Russell for freaking about Bottas’ push towards the middle of the track, and putting his tires in the grass with plenty of space to still complete the pass. But Wolff just comes off as an arrogant asshole trying to tell a driver who was clearly faster than his in that moment not to pass him because it’s a Merc. Like seriously dude needs to fuck off
It’s not about race each other, but about not destroying one car plus one engine and a gearbox. It’s about not trashing millions of pounds. He didn’t tell Russell not to race against a Mercedes, but to race differently, aka, not wasting the team’s money
@@giovannizn So only pass, if the Mercedes is in the the pitlane. He went for a legit gap, if Toto wants someone to not go for a gap, in case they may waste Mercedes money. He probably should get out of F1. It says a lot when he thinks someone should "race differently"
@@theedorknyt6653 Going for a gap is not the same as going for a close call. There’s also an old phrase in F1 that says: “bring the kids back home”. 16 drivers were able to do it most of them overtaking rival teams. But for me it was a racing incident. So there’s no ground to extend this conversation
@@tgm9991 re watch the video, Bottas is diagonal across the track heading for Russell. If Russell didn't move, Bottas would have crashed into the side of him. Has everyone gone fucking insane?
It's not "whenever you can". It's when the right opportunity presents itself, or if you create the right opportunity. "whenever you (assume you) can" is suicide.
Not if you are taking out car of the team you are looking to join. I thin Leclerc chances of joining Ferrari would have been slim to none if in middle of the title battle 2018 he had caused Vettel to go off track and crashed in Raikkonen in the same lap. Russel was to be blamed for both accidents and it's all racing and good if it was not his team that is on the loosing end.
what bothers me is that wolf doesn't want russel to be aggressive against any mercedes car. what are we talking about? this sport needs more of this without people be stopped from this manager. he shouldnt even be allowed to manage so many drivers. same idea i have with red bull and alpha tauri
I think this is worse than Red Bull and alpha tauri. Red Bull and alpha tauti do race and an alpha tauri driver isn’t threatened if they do well. Toto just told a guy he can’t race 10% of the field.
You won't see a Russell Hamilton combination because Hamilton knows how good Russell is. That's why he picked Bottas a good driver but not good enough to beat Hamilton.
@@garf6615 LMAO! Hamilton doesn't pick drivers! Bottas basically got the drive because he'd had good performances at Williams and he was available when Rosberg unexpectedly quit. I reckon next year, if Lewis doesn't retire, Russell will be his team mate.
@@alanjm1234 you reckon mercedes are gonna risk that again? I think they're secretly relieved to have a 1-2 lineup and not a super competitive line up like hamilton-rosberg.
It would also be his first points after multiple times of nearly getting points. Meanwhile Bottas was way out of where a Mercedes should be in the first place. I think Bottas has more to lose than George in general here.
@Mo Elm Wouldn’t really make sense for him not to try win championship points for Williams. If he drives brilliantly for Williams (which he has) he proves that he is a worthy contender for the Mercedes car. I don’t know what expectations you have for a driver, if Russell’s qualifying and races doesn’t meet them...
Racing incident for sure ...... Bottas owes Russell thanks, this incident has taken all the attention from the fact that Bottas was so slow that he was being passed by a Williams.
@@Senna458 done little like contributing majorly to every constructor’s championship and finishing second in the driver’s championship 2 years in a row?
4:11 So, the Mercedes team boss, who is also Russell's manager, is telling his pupil, employed by Williams, that he should have been more careful especially because it was a Mercedes? Speaking of a conflict of interest ...
@@tulmar4548 Okay, that confirms my point even more: since he is employed by Mercedes, Wolff apparently thinks Russell should have been more careful because he was racing a Mercedes car. So, what's next, Russell should let a Mercedes win should the situation arise? Isn't that just distortion of competition?
@@StevePhoenix you're right.....he's way better than Lewis....didn't you see what wonders he did with Lewis's car last season but Mercedes fucked him up intentionally?? Do you understand how much skill if takes to race like that in a car you've never touched before ?? Bottas knew that Russel had drs on but he still didn't give him any space...that was bottas' and only bottas' fault
Not sure if you're implying that they crashed deliberately to save Hamilton, or that the crash did not deserve a red flag or even a safety car. And if it's a joke it's in really bad taste.
Especially at imola, last year he was on dead tyres and was gonna be undercut by bottas and max then the VSC came out for half a lap just as Lewis was approaching the pit
@@jakerobin1708 many times he’s had bad luck like pit entry at monza, you make your own luck. I guess most people have never watched f1. Most drivers back day would crash to win
@@plzdonhack Esteban Ocon was the chosen one till Russell showed up - if some new rising Mercedes junior star walks all over Formula 2 this year - who knows what will happen. Russell is a star in the dry but I don't see him matching Verstappen in the wet.
The fact that Bottas in a Mercedes almost got overtaken by Russell in a 'Williams' is just funny. Nothing else but funny lmao, i never imagined this happening.
it's a joke really, bottas is not nearly as good as some of the underdogs are nowadays. And to top that off, Lewis en Max are pulling away big time, and this guy in a similar car cant even get through some traffic issues... never liked him tho, he's always been merc's number 2 with an overly dominant car, nobody could touch them, and when they could, bottas wasn't anywhere close to lewis or those attacking top position
@@B__L so were many others. But again, where is he now in a better car??? Imo not doing so amazing as he did at williams. Fun fact, he would have got passed by one 😂 Edit: and not to forget the time russel got a play in one of the mercs where he did an outstanding performance, better than bottos does most races nowadays We're in 2021 mate, not 2017
As the great Aryton Senna put it....'If you don't take that chance and go for that opening, then you aren't racing anymore.' Russell was right to go for it....if it turned out that he did make the pass cleanly...they'd be cheering his greatness....and no one would be crying
This is the bottler who didn't want another Rosberg to challenge Lewis. Russell needs to escape, there is no seat whilst they pander to Lewis. Who made more mistakes last weekend than Russell.
Wolff reminds me a lot of Lance Armstrong during his successful days: Very powerful figure, you act against his personal interests and you're punished, you act accordingly, you're rewarded, and even when you drive for another team you should be loyal to his, else he threatens to ruin your career.
What part of Mercedes development driver do you not understand? The point is that Charles has to prove himself, and taking out one of their cars is not a very smart way of doing it
@@valerierodger7700 first of all you got the wrong name. Guess you are a ferrari fan, so no problem. second, his intention was never to crash into each other. As any race driver would, he saw the opportunity to overtake another car and went for it. He got spooked by Bottas line correction, so George overcorrected and made a mess of it. I agree with stewards decision to deem it a racing incident because both drivers are to blame. Last, the fact that he can no longer "Race" the Mercedes is what sucks about the situation. In Toto's mind Gio or Mick cant fight the Ferraris or Yuki/Gasly cant try to overtake Verst/Perez. Utter bollocks.
@@officialWWM he literally almost won last year in his stand in race for hamilton if it wasnt for a mercedes pitstop error and beat bottas on top of it. how does he have to prove anything? i dont understand youtube low iq comments
@@officialWWM what are you even on about? He hasn't earned it? He's been in the slowest car by miles for three years in a row, and despite this regularly puts it in q2 and has been dominant at the team. He nearly got pole in sakihr and should've won the race, all while absolutely obliterating bottas. I'm pretty sure he's fucking earned it
@@jasperthefriendlyghost4073 in your rush to be sexist you seem to have forgotten that Simon is a man and Claire and the Williams family sold their stake in the team last year.
But if the crash is a racing incident, you don't blame the other driver and then hit him in the head, especially if you twitched and ended up in the grass.
It has been a part of F1 for a while that the #2 driver gets shit and the #1 driver gets the support. Now how about the #3 driver that a team could have.
'It would be a shame if something were to happen to that potential mercedes seat for 2022..' Treating him like a college intern. Probably ask him to bring coffee to Mercedes HQ as well
@@ehimenoseghale2642 maybe but he was doing his job. F!!! Mercedes they don’t “own f1” it’s about who’s a better driver with the machine they are given.
@@Mxnlt You close a gap by being faster and not allowing someone to overtake, not by swerving in front of him, by your logic I would just be slow and swerve în front of everybody so they wouldn't overtake. Or are you just trolling, in that case nevermind.
A veteran driver who is average and below average in many respects. Put my money on the idea that if he and Russell were in reverse order Russell would be up in the fight with Norris leclerc and Hamilton. Not getting over taken by an inferior car.
The problem is he didn’t pass anyone. He got over anxious and ran out of room and talent. He may be a future champion, but at the moment he is only a journeyman driver with a champions attitude. He needs to work on that part a little bit.
I like how Wolff's whole argument is , "he shouldn't have tried to pass a mercedes." What a tosser, if it was a redbull he tried to pass and crashed out with Wolff would've been the first to praise the attempt.
@Demyx he basically said Russel should think about his career before overtaking a mercedes car. In other, less pr bullshittery words: "we should make it illegal for anyone to overtake my cars >:("
Maybe the real question should have been, why would Bottas try to make an aggressive defending move when conditions were poor? Shame on Wolff for trying to manipulate a competitors driver! The suggestion that a driver shouldn't challenge a Mercedes is ludicrous at best!
To distract from that very fact. This looked WAY too much like the Singapore incident that benefited Alonso. The goal is to put the focus on Russell and let him take the fall, not how Bottas orchestrated an incredibly convenient red flag which gave Mercedes enough time to repair Hamilton's car.
@@flyingphoenix113 Not just repair Hamilton`s car, but also unlap him. (He was lapped at that point of the race), That`s why i think the whole red flag rule, stating that lapped cars can unlap themselves during the red flag, is just a joke. In this particular race this rule directly affected the chamionship standings. Lapped cars should stay lapped during a red flag situation.
All jokes a side that's totally true, Bottas and Lewis would barely get any team points without the safety car and Mercedes would be behind Red Bull in constructors championship now. Toto is not really obset about the destroyed car but rather Russels behavior and attitude, too childish and immature. He misjudged his maneuver, ended up crashing into Bottas, he is still a rookie , dont have a lot of experience especially on the wet track so that's ok, but the fact that he still doesn't want to accept absolutely any responsibility for that crash is what really concerns Toto Wolf now, it means Russel isn't mature enough to replace Bottas yet ...
Netflix rubbing there hands together rn
I just want George in an episode
They were filming with Tsunoda so not Happening
XD
Bottas: Mein gott muss das ein
Russell: I think Ericcson hit us
@@husse7300 *sein
*Ericsson
As a fan, I hate it being implied that a Williams driver should act like he has 3 team mates, we want to see all the drivers pushing and going for every possible overtake, regardless of who's money is bankrolling your drive!
I agree. When customer teams are chastised for racing the works teams too hard, that's a recipe for the kind of culture that will eventually kill the sport.
@@scullystie4389 "They race me SO hard?" Jee, I wonder where I heard that before....
@@jadoklany7117 🤣🤣 i totally agree
its difficult for racing driver to ask before every overtake if it is ok to do so :))
Complete agreement. Yeah, Russell should keep his position as a Merc reserve driver in mind, but as long as he is in a Williams car, his first priority is to Williams, and that means taking positions when he can.
Bottas made a move that caused Russell to flinch. Ok, fair to criticize the flinch, but what came next wasn't anyone's fault, and for Toto to be upset is disappointing. I thought better of Toto than that.
In the end, it doesn’t matter if George is contracted to Mercedes. He’s fighting for his own team that he is contracted to race and deliver for.
Hence the short term thinking Wolf mentioned. You must make good decisions.
I think what he did off track is worst than what he did on track.
@@FernasRPG true
I commented this elsewhere too, but I don't think Toto has an issue with George going for the overtake. I think he has an issue with walking over to Bottas after/acting the way he did and then acting the way he did in the interview and making explicit an issue that was internal to Mercedes (Bottas v Russel for the seat next year).
But hes talking about the absolute crazy move. It was like 5% chance of getting it, 75% chance crash, 20% braking too late. Russell saw the squeeze, and still tried to send it. Not a good racing decision
Russell is a Williams driver, not a Mercedes driver. It's not fair of Wolff to expect him to approach a Mercedes differently. I understand he wants that, because he's the team principal, but in the end Russell is a driver for another team, so he's just doing his job.
Lost respect for Wolff in his comments. He should be more concerned with how a Williams was in a position to take a Mercedes.
Don’t agree. Mercedes has invested huge amounts of time and money in Russell and he wouldn’t be in the Williams without them. To say Wolff shouldn’t criticise him when he causes Mercedes damage, costs, and points is ridiculous. It’s like Man Utd developing a player and whilst on loan to Liverpool, that player does a dangerous tackle on a Man Utd player and injures him. The manager of Man Utd would be right to criticise the player he has created and loaned out for doing damage to the team that invested in him. You could argue that Russel as a Mercedes driver shouldn’t be in the Williams at all, but he is because Wolff got him in there for experience. IMHO Russell should be in the Mercedes this year. He hasn’t done himself any favours in getting into the Mercedes next year. It’s called biting the hand that feeds you
@@jk3838 completely different, all overtakes are potentially dangerous. He went for it for his team. Wolf should not be saying what he said.
Karma for messing up Russell’s race in the Mercedes lol
@@damedusa5107 I'm not going to try and pretend to be an expert in racing, but Russel had plenty of space on the left during the overtake. He took way too much of a risk going so close to the limits of the track. It definitely seems like he was blinded by the prospect of overtaking the Mercedes to prove himself. That's what Wolff is referring to when he talks about a global perspective. It's especially dumb for him to keep placing the blame on Bottas after the fact, it was a Russel fuck up 100%.
Wolff is like a dad that teases buying an expensive thing for you but u have to be on ur best behavior and get good grades
Just like my dad, lol!
“Russell shouldn’t have raced the Merc”
More like a Dad who buys a motorcycle, but not to ride it, just to watch it. And nobody dare touch it.
Like mine?
Baby that’s how the world work
Reading the replies, I’m just waiting for someone to say “my dad is richer than your dad”
The muddy politics of team managers managing drivers who work for other teams, supplying parts/support to other teams and expecting them to race you differently, etc
Russel should look at this from his own career's perspective. What's more important, scoring a P11 instead of P12 in one race for Williams, or pleasing your future team boss, ensuring a spot in a race/championship winning team?
@@thomasvleminckx it wasnt p11 or p12, it was for p9 which meant points, something Russell should be striving for, where as Bottas should've been far and away from this situation
@@thomasvleminckx
Its not like Mercedes is the only team that'd sing him
Yeah that just doesn't feel right.
@@thomasvleminckx he’s not signed with Mercedes for next year and there’s no guarantee he will be even if he cedes that position. He has no reason to race Mercedes differently than any other team, especially when finishing in the points in a Williams would be huge
Wolff and merc are really gonna try and “George, it’s James” when he literally drives for a different team
Yea, totally agree that anyone should act differently against different other teams, team orders take on a whole new meaning
The team's environment is just crap. Till 2020, they were like "Money is everything". Now with the cost cap in place, they're affected the most. So that's why they are so f***ed up. Because they know that building a whole new car whill cost a lot of money and it'll simply get them closer to the limit of spending which they might get a penalty for if they exceed. And remember they are fighting for the championship so they've to run till the end considering how strong Red Bull is this year.
"These guy's race me sooooo hard" Toto 'alex albon' wolff
george ran into Botas and this miserable princess still has a grudge! He is the most pumped F1 driver by all the English-speaking media! Pathetic whimsical child
It's a long season! Let it play out. Wisdom together with talent win.
Wolff saying Russell should race differently against Mercedes compared to other teams is really bad. Forget Russell giving Bottas stick, the fact that Merc feel Russell should race different has implications about the integrity of the sport
integrity in F1 lmao
yes, tegridy!
welcome to f1 politics
That’s because they finalized a contract about this time
The more toto teases george on getting a merc seat the more that george will try and overtake bottas
exactly. they might think it will motivate george, but it clearly encourages him to try and outshine valtteri, and in turn makes valtteri less likely to give up the position and risk crashing.
George will either rise to the challenge, or he will continue with an arrogance that he has not earned, yet displays so blatantly at every opportunity.
A true champion needs far more than one opportunistic result.
@@georgewilson19 it's like the Hamilton rosberg rivalry
i believe that one day Russell will overtake him
I mean the fact that he can overtake him with a garbage car while Bottas is in one of the best on the field is telling. Toto should stop teasing George if he wants him to be less aggressive, I believe that he plays a huge role in this situation
“What was Bottas even doing being overtaken by a Williams in the first place”
I’m a Mercedes supporter but this was funny😂
Bottas was wandering same himself.
Lol sm
Bottas just doesn't want to admit his not good enough and Merc should have gotten rid of him and replace him by George, they might regret it If they lose the Tem championship.
@@omidheidari4462 but that was massively destroyed by Perez's worst driving that day..
There is something called DRS
I want to see drivers driving and challenging for track position, NOT holding back because their team's engine supplier is in front of you.
Except it's not just an engine supply... Russell is a Mercedes driver being paid by Mercedes.
@@tigerpjm i understand that but is that who Wolff wants as a driver? Somebody who doesn't race to win as much as possible? Somebody who doesn't go for the gap? Just out of respect for mercedes?
@@tigerpjm well now he has 3 teammates? Is that okay?
@Hadite84 Couldn't have said it much better than myself, us fans want that excitement, otherwise you're gonna lose a hell of a lot of them with petty things like this.
@@chrisrea6841 well. He didn’t say he shouldn’t race for the place. But shouldn’t try it on a completely wet lane and just plant it on the grass. And it was mainly the reaction. As he literally went to bottes and slapped him. The last thing merc wants is another Lewis roseberg. It is also completely George’s fault. As he literally lost control of his car and slammed into bottas
That's a huge: "Look kiddo - I'm the boss! End of conversation"
ok
ok
I think he’s just more disappointed with it cause he is close with Russell
@@tamthuong4048 Mercedes fanboy
@@tamthuong4048 dd
lmao Wolff behaving like Mercedes is the only team interested in Russell
*Russell
They must be...the offers haven't exactly been flowing in...
Isn't it almost Red Bull's motto that they'd rather a driver put the car in the wall going for glory, rather than playing it safe. I'm sure Horner would love to poach Russell to stick it to Mercedes.
@@Feedmagoo92 doesn't seem to be a opportunity for sticking it in yet
Everyone's acting like his only choice is going to Mercedes. First off Williams look much better this year, new management and the opportunity of the new regs next year leave them in a decent position to have a good car next year and beyond. Beyond that there is a small chance Aston Martin get fed up with Vettel, Alpine may drop Ocon also never doubt a team to rip up a contract for the right driver (I'm talking about you Red Bull!)
I"m just surprised that non of the Renault Clio Cup drivers got offended by Toto"s comment.
They know their place
@@aesthetich9730 Bet you that there are Clio Cup drivers better than Mazespin and co
Funny enough Renault Sport Series on Twitter even tweeted to MercedesF1 saying they’ll sponsor George’s registration fees for that Clio Cup race at Monza soon.
"At least we aren't scared of the Nordschleife....spoiled pussies...."
@@aristotelesdomingo6384 those brittle F1 cars won't even be able to handle the track anyway.
This incident made them hella more points than if russel didnt collide with bottas
Funny thing is that this is so true lol...
Exactly, this crash kept them in the lead of the championship instead of getting no points and being second in the championship with 18 points behind verstappen
Yeah, Hamilton benefitted from it.
THANK GOD I'm not the only one who see this. I love Lewis, but he was gifted.
Would they rather have the points or 13 million $ car?
Wolf saying Russell shouldn’t try to pass a Mercedes (or race it differently) is just ridiculous
It's not ridiculous. Showing poor judgement and an ordinary attitude towards a team you'd hope to be driving for next season is a dumb move.
@@ExternalInputs and football players shouldn't score goals against teams they want to join right?
@@drebin7188 Football players aren't exactly travelling at DRS speeds, now are they? What a shit comparison.
@@NF650i the argument isn't about the speed. They are saying he should give special treatment to one team over another. It's elitist to think somebody has no right to try an overtake just because they might join your team.
@@drebin7188 F1 is full of politics behind the scenes. However, F1 is more than just winning a race - it's akin to a game of chess with everyone striving for the bigger picture for the team first, and although Russell is not racing for Mercedes, he was for the junior programme and Williams is involved with Mercedes, and as such Russell "should" have taken into account the risk vs reward against a stronger ally with a lot more experienced driver.
Maybe Toto should call Horner and ask him for advice on a situation where the second car is struggling to stay on points. I'm sure Horner has some great advice on that
Mate it’s 1 race lmao Bottas got p3 in Bahrain calm give time
Epic 😂😂
Horner's advice : Sack him
@@josaphatfebrianj.f_works2838 yep, most probably his answer
yeet.
Surely George's commitment to getting results for Williams overrules his commitment to the Mercedes Driver Academy
This
Not if he wants to avoid a career in a Clio.
Nope. Toto owns him. Williams is just renting.
Yeah. Russell should forget Mercedes. If he doesn't he has zero chance to win the title. This because Hamilton doesn't want him on the other car. Too fast and too ambitious. As long as Hamilton keeps racing for MB he wants someone like Bottas on his side, fast enough to ensure the team title but not fast enough to challenge.
Exactly. I'm sure getting valuable points on the board for Williams is more of a motivation for George at that moment than any motivation to 'prove something' to Mercedes, if there is any.
I think the word that Russell used the most in his career is "Gutted" lmao
He does race for Williams
@@hellogoodbye4906 the sky is blue
I freakin love it when he said that
Nah it’s, “hOnesTLy”
@@morebouncetotheounce that’s Vettel’s
Toto can cry all he wants but that accident saved Lewis.
Very true!
That's stretching things. Hamilton still had to get his car out of the gravel and reclaim 10 odd places, How many other drivers would've kept that cool?
@@kieronjohnson8834 We will never know. What we do know is that Max would be leading the championship if it wasn't for that accident.
@@ioannisdellios4099 And Hamilton would have 8 WDC's if his engine hadn't blown up in Malaysia. What if's don't win races.
@@kieronjohnson8834 Get off you high horse dude. All i said was that this incident was a blessing in disguise and that Wolff shouldn't cry as much. Yes, Hamilton drove brilliantly but that doesn't change the fact that he was incredibly lucky.
If you no longer crash into a race car that exists you are not a race car driver - Ayrton Maldonado
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"you are no longer a pay driver" - only need to adjust that hahaha
perfect
Thanks for this
😅😅😅
Having just watched this, listening to Toto and now George releases an apology. Looks like George spoke to Toto today.
Where is that i hope if he doesn't get the seat next year he leaves merc
@@seanglendon4813 And goes where? Renault? HAAS? George needs merc more than they need him.
@@Bahamuttiamat to some extent yes, but also it looks like merc might have to fight for championships in the future, and bottas clearly not cutting it. George is obviously very talented and is probably the easiest option
More that Toto spoke to Georgy porgy.
@@Bahamuttiamat didkt redbull say a while ago that they wanted him on drive to survive i think christian would snap him up like its nothing
Wolf saying Russell shouldn’t try to pass a Merc is the same mindset of Albon complaining about the Alpha Tauri’s racing him hard
You mean shouldn't?
@@unthenner5519 yes, my bad
Or like Christian Horner complaining that gasly shouldn't overtake a red bull car
@@user-co7db7kv8d I’m not a huge fan of collusion between teams in f1, it’s like if Lebron James also owned the team he was playing against
Well it's good that it's not at all what he said, then.
Toto is just not accepting that a william had a chance to overtake a mercedes. Hes too proud for this lol
Especially a Mercedes that’s not in the race a lap down🙃🤣🤣
Tyre age difference is dead.
They shit in their pants
Russell is too arrogant and don’t know he committed this mistake himself and blaming the accident to Bottas. I can see that Mercedes will not take this kind of driver into their team.
@@team2727 bottas didnt give space bruh why didnt they show the halo cam of bottas huh cus he clearly squeezed out russell and even gave russell the 🖕 finger when russell went over to his car
Team orders are one thing. But asking a customer team driver to basically stand down because he's about to overtake a car from the supplier team seems nuts to me.
Well said I am not sure that another team should even be suggesting that a driver in there pay but not in their team should be asked not to overtake the team.. conflict of interest......
@@paulcooper5200 this is nothing new who can forget Alex "they're racing me so hard" Albon
Ferrari does it all the time. See 1997 Jerez. Jean Today, Ferrari team boss, walked down to the Sauber guys to tell them to hold up the Williams so Schumacher can catch up. Why? They were using Ferrari engines.
It was an ill-judged overtake. That's the point.
It seems nuts to you and all who agree because you are looking at the situation and choosing to interpret what he meant in you own way.
Russell is a Mercedes driver on loan to Williams and so contractually he is actually part of the Mercedes team, and we all saw how tightly integrated that agreement is with him being first choice to fill in for Lewis last season.
In most cases teams would normally pick a test driver for the race but they chose George. Which underlines his status and how highly he is viewed by his bosses at.......Mercedes
Toto wasn't directing his annoyance at the concept of a customer team taking a risky chance at a works team
He was directing it at a Mercedes driver taking a risky chance towards another Mercedes driver. Both signed to him, both under the same Mercedes Umbrella.
It certainly looks like every time Russell is on course for points, he, his car, or his team absolutely bottles it.
Maybe George’s mascara clouded his vision 😂
Just like Hulkenberg, every time he was close to the success, something bad had to happened. Such a bad luck
Was russels’s fault but I don’t blame him at all for trying. As senna once said “if you don’t go for a gap that exist you no longer racing driver, bottas however did nothing wrong he put his car in the best defensive position he could
@@codybaker7248 ❤️🙌
You mean, they Bottas it...
After the Turkish GP last year and now at Imola, Bottas really needs to sort his wet weather performances out.
@Cos not everyone spinned 284728 times unlike bottas. Bottas is literally a bad driver on wet weathers lol.
@ravi_vitor i believe almost everyone messed up in german 2019 😂
@@haninditabudhi6574 yup, but somehow not Vettel, who crashed the year before.
I think Bottas is competing with Vettel at the moment to see which one can have the most inexplicably poor and desperately disappointing record over the last two seasons.....
@@philtucker1224 Indeed.
"If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver" -Ayrton Senna
on point
Everything said here. You want to manage a racing team, expext them to race.
Well said 👏
the problem was, the gap was still there. bottas pushed him wide and forced the incident which would not have happened otherwise. when someone has that much speed on you, you concede to the pass. you dont push them off the track. this was bottas, and the entitlement mentality of merc causing an incident.
I think Alain Prost would have a different take. Senna (RIP) went for gaps that didn't exist more than once.
Understandable that George is getting impatient, look at his development vs Lando's , Toto is letting George down by keeping him in a back marker
yeah poor george is getting let down, i mean his life could be worse he could be driving a f2 car after all. sometimes drivers and people in general need to appreciate what they have and not what they dont.
This accident was a good reason why george is still better off in the williams and move to mercedes when hes ready.
@@rossy2998 he already drove in f2 and smoked Lando, he should be in a better car by now, being a back marker is hindering his development
@@warwickhunt yes im awere, imsaying he should be thankful hes in f1 this accident and the way he displayed his ego is a good example why hes not in a mercedes yet.
George should move on and find another team
Russel l Deserve Renault Twingo 😁
How can he be angry? That crash literally saved Hamilton's race.
You're not wrong heck I wouldn't have been too surprised if that was a planned occurrence by Mercedes since it turned like 7/8 into 2/DNF so technically more points over the course of the race but meh maybe if toto saw the other result he wouldn't be angry just be disappointed in the risky move since Bottas could barely know Russell was there. Than also yeah that was one of Lewis's spots so Toto is justified in Russel should have made a safer pass but Toto is wrong that Russel shouldn't have tried that move.
But Mercedes lost important constructors points, it's not exactly free to repair a quite damaged car, and Russel is linked to Mercedes, so since Russel is blamed for the accident, maybe it's also seen as bad behavior, which certainly can give bad reputation to the Mercedes brand itself.
@@iamyourgreatgreatgreatgrea6291 What constructor points? 7th/none LH did with his crash is worse than 2nd/none...
@nijuo joing I guess thats because lewis is a more capable driver who is good in the wet? Im pretty sure if lewis was in the same position as Russel he would not have hit the grass and spun out of his own doing and if he did he wouldnt blame other drivers for it.
Are you clinically dumb? Seriously asking
Russell wanted to race...during a race! What a madman!
Bottas was on cold tyres and would have been faster within half a lap. A 'round the outside' move which would result in you defending the position for next 30 laps ISN'T the best decision.
@@hamonryechinaski180 are you saying drivers shouldn't overtake faster cars that makes no sense and he doesn't need to defend if bottas is clearly faster later on, but i doubt bottas would of been able to get past he was that slow.
@@micky6j listen, my friend. Watch Lewis overtaking Norris. Norris does EXACTLY what Bottas did but Lewis went past anyway. IF George wantrd to overtake a car that was only shower whilst it was switching on its tyres then it a) had to do it without taking out faster car and b) not defend too aggressively.
Sadly George messed up big time. Lewis shows how it should be done, George costs Mercedes £1 mil due to hus mistake THEN makes it hard for everyone for entire year due to spurging out.
Cue Bottas/Russall rivalry stories, Mercedes tough choices stories etc etc etc.
Watch Norris/Hamilton overtaking, Palmer's take is free on you tube
@@hamonryechinaski180 how can russell defend aggressively if hes the one overtaking and norris made his defence early unlike bottas who only moved after russell started his move as russell said after the race ( it was a verstappen move ) palmer doesn't even talk about the late move from bottas even tho that was what russell is mad about. disappointing from palmer to not even talk about what russell was mad about, its got nothing to with the space bottas left on track but when he moved to the right but all palmer talks about is the space on track, shame palmer is normally on point not this time tho.
He should stay on the track while racing. He went on to the wet patch and lost control
What I understand here is that Totto was mad because Russell tried to fight a Mercedes with a Williams and almost won the fight
Very true
Are you dreaming? Williams can't even beat the low powered car of Kimi! For Russel to make that move agains a Mercedes and Bottas, Russel is clearly showing frustration. What that means is, he's not a team player which I'm sure the Mercedes team will look in consideration.
@@syapol54 Why would he be a team player for a different team? George is just minding his own race but due to the circumstances, he crashed to Bottas. If they didn't come together then I'm sure Toto would have different comments.
@@syapol54 Russel had the faster car and it was a straight so better than a wet corner with pebbles!
Ik what’s a Mercedes driver doing getting lapped by his teammate, being in 9th AND getting overtook by a williams
I feel like wolff is totally playing around with george. I really hope he goes to another team
the toxicity levels are getting to the level of redbull
I hope Russell leaves too. Hate his toxic fan base. Merc will be fine.
@@AcousticPhonon toxic fan base? Wtf you on about
You can’t complain when when you’re the top team for as long as Mercedes and your have a guy in the mid field where he doesn’t belong. If anything, the people who want it the most are going to push and the comfortable ones will perish. Willams has had a crappy decade and if they have a chance, why wouldn’t they take it? Because of future potential? Politics within the sport consumes so much for only 20 drivers in the entire world. Let them race
@@AcousticPhonon you are hysterical mate. Grow up
Wolf: how dare you race against my team.
Russel: I see gap
That's pretty much what Toto is saying.
Considering where the dry line is on that part of the circuit, Russel should've know the gap wasn't there. Literally everyone was passing on the inside at that time of the race...
@Christopher Bresnick ayrton senna would laugh with toto’s comments lol
@@Andrew81au1 gallagher is that you?
senna was talking to his opponent, not with future boss, plz respect your own IQ
RedBull: - Hey Russell, you dont need to drive a clio
rbull is going for russel
I never even thought of that angle. A Verstappen/Russell combo would be pretty solid
@@robertcooper6910 Russell would just get treated like shit cause max is there, red bull doesn't do two first drivers
@@redbullsauberpetronas they did back in the day with Vettel and Webber. It was only after 2010 that Webber sucked and Vettel was the de facto no1 in the team.
@@xynostasos9022 that's just flat out wrong lol
Toto is like a mob boss. He essentially told Russel not to cross him.
Remember when he called Max's father and told him to keep Max under control..
Russell taking out Valtteri allowed Lewis to get back on the lead lap.... Toto should be saying thank you to George
EDIT: Wow this was complete sarcasm when posted.. but I forgot anything regarding Lewis is fightin words lol. Look NOBODY can take ANYTHING away from Lewis and his accomplishments! All I'm saying is in the rare moments he makes a mistake, an incredible amount of good luck always seems to mitigate the damage.
Almost killing your other drivers and costing the team million... Yess Wolff should definitely thank Russell... 🤡🤡
Lol Lewis went off track avoiding Russell. If Georgey boy got the f out the way Lewis would have not been in that position in the first place and the crash with Bottas probably would have been avoided.
@@MrSilverfish12 No Russell was literally getting out the way for Lewis when he did go off because Lewis was being impatient. Watch the footage of it in this video you see Russell swing wide to let Lewis by but he came in too fast. Also listen to the post-race interviews from both Hamilton and Russell they both say the same thing
Yeah WASTING millions of £s on a wrecked car and banged up driver was well worth it! 🧐🧐
Don’t you mean Bottas taking out Russell?
It’s okay Toto, McLaren and Redbull will both be happy to have him.
@@mauricemotors8207 Aryton Senna disagrees with this comment
@@luximillionpegasus Well he dead innit
@@mauricemotors8207 he had every right to go for the move and every other driver would of done the same. If they say they wouldn't then they are not world championships material.
Senna was excellent in the rain. And Russell is far from a Senna. 😉
George at aston martin next year looks like a serious possibility now
“Being a racing driver means you are racing with other people and if you no longer go for a gap that exists you are no longer a racing driver because we are competing.” - Ayrton Senna
George just honouring senna going for gaps
Lol your here screaming to. REEEEeeeee on🐖
@@mikaelgustafsson7150 Seek psychiatric help.
agree... Senna is a legend. but don't forget one thing. Senna is Senna. George isn't him. There are so much Senna is a legend at. no one is comparable to him. He knows where is the grip even before entering into the corner. Senna is truly a legend. so sad that he died here in this track of a car failure. If he is still alive he be definitely advising a team like Nikki did. truly saddened
this, also it feels like toto is actually talking to bottas while saying it to george.
Some parents do that kind of thing. Scolding the other child so the other one at fault listens to it without being emotional.
This whole incident has been blown way out of proportion.
hahah thinking the exact same thing, clearly some people have agendas against bottas or russel
100% He hit a bit of wet grass. That's the end of the story, you chalk it up to the conditions, and you move on.
I have no idea why they're fighting other than for the TV.
Because Russell was upset he's a crap driver.
yeap, people thrive on drama and so there is loads of articles/videos/'content' being made to capitalize on that
@@KiLLJoYTH-cam right?? Like he went for a pass, hit a wet patch on the outside and spun. What else is there to it. Its between Russell and Bottas to figure things out between them
That crash is what gave Mercedes points by letting Hamilton catch up during the red flag restart.
Agree. Bottas was only going to score a couple of points. The crash and subsequent red flag actually maximised Mercedes' points.
Sbinnala
Yeah but Hamilton also crashed in the first place because GR made Hamilton pass on the wet side of track during a blue flag...
"George it's James, Lewis is in trouble, execute order 66 on Bottas."
@@matteo5752 Hamilton disagrees with you to the extend that when asked about the "incident" he didn't know what they were talking about. When explained he shook his head confused. He didn't even consider it.
Vettel, in a Toro Rosso, wiping out Webber in a Red Bull in the wet didnt affect his move to Red Bull (and the 4 championships)
Wolff be like:
Alpha Tauri should crash the car if hamilton is leading by 8 seconds.
Mercedes reaction reminds me of Albon saying “they race me so hard” last year. It’s like they expect teams they supply engines to to stay out of their way and not give them any trouble. I wonder how they feel about McLaren.
Bang on, couldn't say it better
Mercedes are part owners of williams no mclaren. McLaren are just customers they pay they get the engine
@@abdelhamidkhaled4812 yep mclaren bought back all the stake mercedes had in them. I think mercedes still has some but very little compared to what it used to before.
Toto clearly is not acting in the best interests of his clients but his team, this is classic case of conflict of interest.
F1 needs to seriously consider banning team bosses from managing drivers full stop. There's clearly an ethical compromise in having one team boss be in control over the career of another driver.
It is already bad enough that if another team wants to enter negotiations with Russell they must speak with Toto, but now were seeing Toto telling Russell not to compete against his main drivers or else. This blatant stand over tactic undermines the integrity of the sport itself and the fact that Toto feels comfortable enough to do it publicly show's F1 needs address the rot.
Left unchecked it will only get worse.
@@bruce_son WTF are you saying. Mercedes or Daimler does not have any stake in mclaren. Wolff use to own shares in williams but has long since sold those. George is and remains a mercedes young driver. This is the equivalent of Gasly or Tsunoda crashing into max or sergio. Neither Helmut nor Christian would be entirely happy.
Toto went down in my eyes after his comment tbh. How can you expect for a driver of another team to treat your car like he is a part of mercedes and “not get risky”. He is a racing driver not a safety expert. If there is a chance of taking any points its his job to take that chance. However, Losing his temper after the crash was pretty scummy
it think this comment will hurt George mindset .. a bit
Seems like Toto rather wants another Bottas for the future, rather than another Hamilton...
when you dont take any points in so long , and you have a good chance now , he was upset ofcorse
Completely agree, i've always liked toto but implying that russel isn't allowed to challenge a mercedes is horrifying. It all seems to come down to the fact that toto refuses to admit that bottas is not good enough for that seat, not even an effective number 2 driver anymore. Proof in the fact he couldn't even outpace a williams.
That's always been the case in F1. Do you really think that Charles Leclerc would have done the same thing to Ferrari, while driving an Alpha Romeo ? You don't make a silly move on the driver of the team you want to rejoin: that's simply not a wise thing. And Russell even kept on saying that he was not the one to blame after being corrected by Toto. Lewis backed off when trying the same move on Nando and waited a few laps to finally pass him. Like you, I really didn't like the way George behaved after the crash: calm down boy and be respectful of the elders.
Okay so let me get this straight. Toto thinks that it is impossible that Bottas handled the situation differently because it was Geroge overtaking him, but George should have handled the situation differently because he was overtaking Bottas? Thats quite a double standrad, isn’t it?
I mean, the way Russel and Bottas spoke in their interviews just shows that that's exactly the case
It annoys me so much that the Williams driver now has 3 teammates he has to look out for
This is one of those well yes, but actually no moments. There are stakes for Russell to act more meekly, but not really for Bottas to act differently towards Russell. If anything, Bottas would only lose face and value if he did either just intentionally give him the position for no apparent reason, or somehow try to scare or even wreck Russell there.
I think the most likely case is that toto doesn’t want another vettel-ferrari incident by blaming bottas. Merc still have an entire season ahead of them and with how strong rb is this year, toto definitely doesn’t want to ruin his relationship with bottas, who will be a key part of getting the wcc
@@ur_boyfriend8612 yeah fine but you don’t have to drag russel about it.. russel was right, why is bottas there he should be racin bottas.. toto should have wisely said i will talk to both and no statement to the damn press
toto being like "you want a seat in my car? then dont crash into me." crying cause russell is actually fighting a mercedes.
Fighting yeah but doing rookie mistakes while trying to prove being something is sad from Russels side. Attack against Bottas after the crash proves it he needs to be more mature.
@@TheSpeederist and that he shouldn't try to drive on the grass when it's wet lmao
Well he's fighting Bottas. Anyone else in that Mercedes wouldn't have been in a position to be over taken by a Williams in the first place.
You want a seat in my car? Then don't *"overtake"* me when I'm slow
@@TheSpeederist At that point bottas should have let russel pass instead of pushing him out on the grass on a wet track. he was 1 lap down and driving slowly. Don't even understand why he didnt get a blue flag.
Basically Toto is like an angry dad.. "This is my car, that is your toy.. Maybe one day I'll let you drive my car if you're a good little boy, but until then you can play with your toy and be patient. But if you put one fingerprint on my car before then, I'm gonna fucking bury you."
😂😂😂
Your dad sounds scarier than mine 😂
The car does cost more then 10 million
@@thecaptain5026 Daddy Toto wipes his ass with 10mil
@@shona5512 I dont think teams want to lose 10 mils because of the new budget cap. forehead
I'm genuinely glad Russell did that move. That's what racing drivers to after all, they try to overtake as much as they can! Horner said (in the case of Gasly, in 2019) that he wants a driver that pushes boundaries even so if that results in crashing the car once in a while.
2019 also had no budget caps either, crashing cars is much more detrimental now
So you are glad he crash because lack of talent\experience?
Gasly and Albon suck it's an insult comparing an F1 driver to them
@@4rzaluz we need to stop treating George like he's a rookie. This is his third year.
@@patricklemire9278 This was a rookie move. The immaturity, recklessness , the damage . It was also premeditated , why did he pick Bottas for his shootout to prove something to Merc? He is proving to Merc he might not be the asset they thought he was and Bottas is the team player , level headed professional .
He's just mad because his 2nd driver was about to get passed by a WILLIAMS
Toto is trying to play the were better card and like Lawrence & son , max throw a huge tantrum and make a huge thing of it does toto care nope but it's great publicity
If the crash hadn't happened, and instead George either completed the overtaking or stopped and overtook him later, the fact would've been that a Williams overtook a Mercedes, Bottas' Mercedes. Instead, the crash shifted the focus from Bottas to Russell, and Mercedes is capitalizing off that as to not attract too much attention to what would've happened if the crash hadn't happened.
@@whatever4847 That is what I've been thinking, the crash served as a saving grace for Bottas otherwise awful race. HE WAS GETTING OVERTAKEN BY A WILLIAMS! Does that chap deserve to have to keep the Mercedes seat, with all honesty and objectively speaking: absolutely not.
@@SamSpeed90 these are horrible takes lol. having to spend a bunch of money scrapping a car and getting no points in the constructors race is not what mercedes wanted. russell should have known not to pass bottas. even if you want to, it looks childish that you don't understand your place at this time. no one, i mean no one, gives a shit about russell scoring a p9 in the race. what people (toto, mercedes) care about is the bottas/hamilton cars.
@@bacardibum Let's forget about GR for a second, Bottas has shown that he's severely lacking as a racing driver, he never was impressive before, but now he gets himself in embarrassing situations such as staying buried in midfield about to be overtaken by Williams and other backmarkers. I mean he even got passed by Lance stroll, and it was quite the overtake. The worst thing is that we all know the Aston car is far from being competitive. Instead Wolff needs to shift the conversation to something else, to try and hide the team's embarrassment
Russell reacted and twitched his steering right due to lack of experience, causing the crash when he dipped his right side tyres on to the grass and it slipped forwards causing him to steer into Bottas.
He had half a car width from Bottas when he was attempting that pass and Bottas barely made any movements towards him.
Had he kept his cool and maintained his line, he would've passed Bottas.
Considering how emotional he was about the whole incident and his childish reaction at attacking Bottas after the crash when the replay was pretty darn obvious who went onto a bad bit of track(grass) and thereafter crashing into the other car (aka, Russel), it shows he couldn't keep his cool and control his actions.
There's a difference between seeing a gap and going for it, and knowing how to take it or leave it, vs seeing a gap, and going for it, but forgetting all the other conditions and consequences that could result from it.
Russell is not that good yet to make that move in those conditions (wet patches on Bottas' left, wet grass on his right). Considering he did make the attempt, and failed, he should've learned that he had a responsibility in how it turned out (and by so doing, also demonstrate that he can learn from it). But his reaction immediately after the incident proved that he did not have the capacity to take such a responsibility (he immediately laid blame on others for his mistake - Bottas didn't force him onto the grass patch, he drove onto it entirely on his own, if Hamilton/Max/Perez/Vettel/Riccardo did that move, they wouldn't have been that spooked by the slight drift of Bottas as they would expect him to close the angle a little due to wet patches on his left).
Hence, Toto had to tell him so - don't be a cunt, Russel was letting some misplaced sense of entitlement to Bottas' position (in some probable future) get in the way of his actual progress and development re: F1 experience. - Bottas being cautious on slicks in the wet vs Russel being a cunt seeing "Oh it's Bottas, time to show him who's better". - that ultimately resulted in a very dangerous crash, and lots of expensive damage to the cars, all in a bid that Russel did something that was in spirit in his own interest to more definitively guarantee his future position in Mercedes, rather than to actually help Williams win anything. (afterall, there are in different class of cars, Bottas' will actually win points and podiums, Russell's hasn't gotten a single point yet til now, and its already the 7th race).
Overtaking Bottas at that point in time would've proved nothing. Anyone can over take a car freshly swapped to cold slicks in the wet, on a straight (but Russell still failed it). Essentially, Russell was only doing that move to flex over NOTHING, and he fucked up, costing millions to Mercedes whom he was trying to 'prove' himself.
Hence the above "I know Bottas for 5 years, he isn't here to prove anything... but what you did was to attempt to prove something and you failed (sic)".
Shit take mate wasn't russel or bottas fault just a racing Incident and toto was being the pretentious twat expecting russel not to overtake bottas
@@anotherhappylanding4746 you must be from the UK?
Toto is very underrated considering how influential he is in F1, he has a hand in atleast 4 teams.....Ocon at Alpine, Russel at williams, shares in AM
Shares in AM's road car division and NOT in the F1 team.
@@subarnosinha8042 He has like nearly 30% stake in the F1 team the last i heard and he had to sell his stakes in williams!!
He's also apparently against racing. Only wants dominant victories with no "risky dangerous" overtaking to do
It's killing the sport
@@angryhooman3154 he is a 33% shareholder in the Mercedes F1 team but has no shares in AM F1 team, only road car company. He had 15% shares in Williams F1 team which he sold but then received 5% back which he has till date.
what is the fourth team?
When I saw the crash, could have happened. But Russell's reaction is what I believe hurts him.
This I think is the crux of it. It should be decided by the stewards, not on social media.
I agree. Going for the overtake was the right decision and if it had worked we'd be cheering at him now. But with this outcome, he should've apologized immediately and everyone would have understood.
@Romans Nine Well I don't like the response from Wolff neither. I feel this sport can have a little more emotion and a little less politics from managers and team bosses, parading these guys around to always say the right things.
I’d be mad too if some old on his way out of F1 driver blocked me because he can’t heat his tires in 2 laps and is about to get passed while a lap down. Russel is in the right. Toto and botASS are vaginas who need to change their clearly overly bloody tampons.
So you’ve crashed at 200mph to know how to handle a near death experience then?
Like Lando Norris would have said: “Just go to Ferrari already mate”
nope definetly not ferrari rn. their management is pretty shit. redbull, aston martin or mclaren seem more logical
Russel was trying to help Williams, which are clearly struggling and Toto just says 'You gotta serve me if you wanna work for me in the future.'
Couldnt agree more
It's ridiculous. I guess every driver should step asside for Mercedes, let them 1-2 every race until the sport dies.
I hope Russell keeps fighting whoever is in front of him and that he can help Williams grow, they're doing better this year.
Stuff Mercedes. If another car is in an overtake possibility he should go for it 110%. Russell was entirely in the right by going for it.
He shouldnt have apologised later, he should have told Toto to fuck off, but I guess the prospect of a Mercedes seat is just too compelling. Hes been staying at Williams far longer than he needed to because Toto kept stalling him while other teams were already interested. I really hope that whatever team he ends up in absolutely destroys Mercedes with the new regulations.
@@Chuckiele I agree! I can't stand Tonto Wolff! What about him calling FIA asking for blue flags in Spain? argh they should create a new F1 called Mercedes Only F1 and race there.
so he's not allowed to compete against the mercedes, even though bottas is doing badly enough for it to become a situation where the two of them are competing for positions
Yes, Toto is a clown.
That wasnt the point. Lol.
Bottas 7.0 is trash.
This year Russell is basically auditioning for the Merc seat. I don't really see how it's going to impress the team you are trying to get into by writing off one of their cars. That's why Toto said he should have been more careful. Imagine if Bottas and Russell were teammates at Merc when this happened it would be Spain 2016 all over again. You think Merc want that??
@@kityhawk2000 So although he is being employed by Williams he should be racing with Mercedes in mind? Nahh
He wasn't the only one to put it on the outside there. Hamilton on Verstappen, Stroll on Gasly...
I think Stroll overtook Bottas from the outside as well
True. When Verstappen held off Hamilton on DSR for two rounds he made himself wide in that same spot and it was (rightfully) called brilliant defending.
@Wrap Wiggle True true
@Wrap Wiggle yeah, maybe even a bit of grass. Camera angles arent very clear on that
And if you look, the inside drivers were not drifting left and crossing the pit exit line.
4:34 Everybody knows any driver will attempt it including his beloved Hamilton.
Hamilton did attempt the move on Norris and got past with no issues. Only when a rookie attempts it it ends in failure
@@Ricardo-yl2bu Exactly, Toto is bullshitting. There's nothing wrong with the attempt just the execution.
@@Ricardo-yl2bu Hamilton did it in lap 60 when that part was completely dry.
@@Janfey it's almost like drivers have to judge track conditions into their decision making instead of screaming and swearing like little brats to the opposite driver the second they spin out into them.
@@musicaddicted777 exactly
The fact that a driver from another team has to treat Bottas like he’s a teammate is ridiculous furthermore Bottas should’ve never been in a position to get over taken by a Williams in the first place
100% .. it’s fucking embarrassing for wolff to call out Russell like that. I don’t care he’s a developmental driver for Mercedes or not. The kid had a faster line, and was clear to pass. It was a mistake by Russell for freaking about Bottas’ push towards the middle of the track, and putting his tires in the grass with plenty of space to still complete the pass. But Wolff just comes off as an arrogant asshole trying to tell a driver who was clearly faster than his in that moment not to pass him because it’s a Merc. Like seriously dude needs to fuck off
It’s not about race each other, but about not destroying one car plus one engine and a gearbox. It’s about not trashing millions of pounds. He didn’t tell Russell not to race against a Mercedes, but to race differently, aka, not wasting the team’s money
@@giovannizn So only pass, if the Mercedes is in the the pitlane. He went for a legit gap, if Toto wants someone to not go for a gap, in case they may waste Mercedes money. He probably should get out of F1. It says a lot when he thinks someone should "race differently"
@@theedorknyt6653 Going for a gap is not the same as going for a close call. There’s also an old phrase in F1 that says: “bring the kids back home”. 16 drivers were able to do it most of them overtaking rival teams. But for me it was a racing incident. So there’s no ground to extend this conversation
@@giovannizn If it's a racing incident, then there is no need for Toto to say he should have raced differently with merc.
Isn't this racing where you should try to pass opponents whenever you can!
Yup Toto is just being ridiculous. Russell was right to try to overtake he just overreacted when Bottas went to the right slightly
Nah Toto said he's not allowed to overtake the Merc. Fantasy land
@@tgm9991 re watch the video, Bottas is diagonal across the track heading for Russell. If Russell didn't move, Bottas would have crashed into the side of him. Has everyone gone fucking insane?
It's not "whenever you can".
It's when the right opportunity presents itself, or if you create the right opportunity.
"whenever you (assume you) can" is suicide.
Not if you are taking out car of the team you are looking to join. I thin Leclerc chances of joining Ferrari would have been slim to none if in middle of the title battle 2018 he had caused Vettel to go off track and crashed in Raikkonen in the same lap. Russel was to be blamed for both accidents and it's all racing and good if it was not his team that is on the loosing end.
I think the first question we need to think about is how did an AMG was getting overtaken by a Williams lol
True definitely something worth to laugh and talk about
Pov: Youre a Russel fanboy
@@ImReqularr I'm not a fan of Russel, I'm just tired of AMG domination
DRS
@@ImReqularr not much of a fan but I find AMG getting overtaken by a Williams funny as hell.
I can’t wait for the f1 drive to survive episode of this...
what bothers me is that wolf doesn't want russel to be aggressive against any mercedes car. what are we talking about? this sport needs more of this without people be stopped from this manager. he shouldnt even be allowed to manage so many drivers. same idea i have with red bull and alpha tauri
"He shouldn't even be allowed to manage so many drivers." I couldn't agree more. 👍
If toto doesn’t want him to be aggressive against a merc he should put him in a merc
Redbull and alpha tauri are racing against each other tho
I think this is worse than Red Bull and alpha tauri. Red Bull and alpha tauti do race and an alpha tauri driver isn’t threatened if they do well. Toto just told a guy he can’t race 10% of the field.
Well, he owns 1/3 of Mercedes team and manages Ocon and Russell's contracts, IIRC. I'm pretty sure he was clear on the message
I always respected Toto until this
This is one reason why you won't see a Russell Hamilton combination
You won't see a Russell Hamilton combination because Hamilton knows how good Russell is. That's why he picked Bottas a good driver but not good enough to beat Hamilton.
@@garf6615 LMAO! Hamilton doesn't pick drivers!
Bottas basically got the drive because he'd had good performances at Williams and he was available when Rosberg unexpectedly quit.
I reckon next year, if Lewis doesn't retire, Russell will be his team mate.
@@alanjm1234 you reckon mercedes are gonna risk that again? I think they're secretly relieved to have a 1-2 lineup and not a super competitive line up like hamilton-rosberg.
@@alanjm1234 LMAO! Hamilton 100% has a say in his team mate.
Shamilton won't allow it
Alfa Romeo and Haas drivers better be careful when attacking Ferrari drivers.
If wolf had his way there’d be 20 Mercedes out there every race finishing in the order he told them to
I can't blame Russell for wating to push it, that 9th place would've mean the glory to Williams
He should've used the space he was given smh
you can blame him for picking a horribly risky spot to do it he got carried away and panicked
It would also be his first points after multiple times of nearly getting points.
Meanwhile Bottas was way out of where a Mercedes should be in the first place.
I think Bottas has more to lose than George in general here.
I appreciate Bottas correctly calling it an aluminum foil hat instead of a tin foil hat. 2:15
Actually, Bottas _correctly_ called it an *aluminium* foil hat. Because we're not Americans ;)
haha
@The Stranger Well he has won races without a rocket, so there goes your theory...
@Hot Rod 🤣
@Mo Elm Wouldn’t really make sense for him not to try win championship points for Williams. If he drives brilliantly for Williams (which he has) he proves that he is a worthy contender for the Mercedes car. I don’t know what expectations you have for a driver, if Russell’s qualifying and races doesn’t meet them...
Racing incident for sure ...... Bottas owes Russell thanks, this incident has taken all the attention from the fact that Bottas was so slow that he was being passed by a Williams.
a mini could overtake mercedes with drs
@@usahillo .... if Bottas were driving the Mercedes.
@@Senna458 you mean the guy who holds the lap record in imola?
@@usahillo I mean the guy driving the car that has dominated F1 by a wide margin since 2014 .... and done little with it.
@@Senna458 done little like contributing majorly to every constructor’s championship and finishing second in the driver’s championship 2 years in a row?
Holy shit I just realised how far off they spun from the moment they came together, that's a long way
and in like a second. quite ridiculous
How dare Russell in his shoddy little Williams race seriously against the Uber team.
Mercedes über alles, über alles in der Welt.
Unacceptable. Discasting. We should cancell him.
Personally I've never really been a Russell fan.
Williams have multiple championships, they also held the record for constructors some time.....sarcasm rarely works.
@@lornamclellan1492 sarcasm relies on an educated audience.
4:11 So, the Mercedes team boss, who is also Russell's manager, is telling his pupil, employed by Williams, that he should have been more careful especially because it was a Mercedes? Speaking of a conflict of interest ...
Russel is contracted to Mercedes, he's not employed by Williams, he's kind of on loan.
Kinda scummy not gonna lie
@@tulmar4548 Okay, that confirms my point even more: since he is employed by Mercedes, Wolff apparently thinks Russell should have been more careful because he was racing a Mercedes car.
So, what's next, Russell should let a Mercedes win should the situation arise? Isn't that just distortion of competition?
@@ronalddolman2654 you've seen team orders, now witness inter-team orders
@@tulmar4548 to keep him humble.
F1 is so corrupt. They made Bernie give up his team but Toto controls how many teams and drivers now?
I dont like toto's take on that. If thats mercedes, so what you cant overtake it anymore? Then whats doing botas in 9th ...
You could stay cool and overtake with some survey!
In the end this crash served Lewis very well as it basically nulled his gap to Max and allowed him to finish 2nd.
Not sure why Wolff was so unhappy with the overtaking spot, seemed to be happy enough when Lewis was using it.
Russell is nowhere near Hamilton's skill level
@@StevePhoenix Yeah, Hamilton would never be impatient and slide off into the gravel via a wet patch of track 🤔
@@StevePhoenix Hamilton would never cause 2 unnecessary spins of Alex Albon. No way
haters haters haters... Lewis finished 2nd ffs. Where was Bottas. Where was Perez. Lando was class
@@StevePhoenix you're right.....he's way better than Lewis....didn't you see what wonders he did with Lewis's car last season but Mercedes fucked him up intentionally?? Do you understand how much skill if takes to race like that in a car you've never touched before ?? Bottas knew that Russel had drs on but he still didn't give him any space...that was bottas' and only bottas' fault
He’s just trying to make people forget bottas was getting overtaken by a Williams 🤣🤣🤣
True
when lewis is in trouble SC comes all the time
well we could image...russel hit first car you see its lance...same time lance pass bottas. russel do like say hit first car. hamilton safed yet again
Not sure if you're implying that they crashed deliberately to save Hamilton, or that the crash did not deserve a red flag or even a safety car.
And if it's a joke it's in really bad taste.
Especially at imola, last year he was on dead tyres and was gonna be undercut by bottas and max then the VSC came out for half a lap just as Lewis was approaching the pit
@@tehchonka5031 how odd you are.
@@jakerobin1708 many times he’s had bad luck like pit entry at monza, you make your own luck. I guess most people have never watched f1. Most drivers back day would crash to win
“Russel isn’t fighting against the mercedes” Toto says. Then why is he racing a merc in a much slower car or even in the mid field.
cause bottas’ tires weren’t hot enough… listen carefully next time
Hope Russel seriously gets looked at from Red Bull since Toto is trying to dangle a carrot in front of George’s face.
RB 2022 Max and George, dream team. Toto crying.
Only to get dropped off middle season. No, I'll pass. Remember everyone had to spend time in a Williams before driving that second Merc
Toto still has Ocon, so we can't count that out
now the carrot changes in a matchbox renault clio
@@plzdonhack Esteban Ocon was the chosen one till Russell showed up - if some new rising Mercedes junior star walks all over Formula 2 this year - who knows what will happen. Russell is a star in the dry but I don't see him matching Verstappen in the wet.
The fact that Bottas in a Mercedes almost got overtaken by Russell in a 'Williams' is just funny.
Nothing else but funny lmao, i never imagined this happening.
it's a joke really, bottas is not nearly as good as some of the underdogs are nowadays. And to top that off, Lewis en Max are pulling away big time, and this guy in a similar car cant even get through some traffic issues... never liked him tho, he's always been merc's number 2 with an overly dominant car, nobody could touch them, and when they could, bottas wasn't anywhere close to lewis or those attacking top position
@@Daveje90 Did you ever even watch F1 before 2017? The guy was amazing at Williams.
@@B__L so were many others. But again, where is he now in a better car??? Imo not doing so amazing as he did at williams. Fun fact, he would have got passed by one 😂
Edit: and not to forget the time russel got a play in one of the mercs where he did an outstanding performance, better than bottos does most races nowadays
We're in 2021 mate, not 2017
@@Daveje90 Look at Gasly with RBR/AT. Some people just don't suit some cars/teams.
@@B__L then again, why is he still at merc??
As the great Aryton Senna put it....'If you don't take that chance and go for that opening, then you aren't racing anymore.' Russell was right to go for it....if it turned out that he did make the pass cleanly...they'd be cheering his greatness....and no one would be crying
Toto seems that he doesn't know how to handle his emotion either
This is the bottler who didn't want another Rosberg to challenge Lewis. Russell needs to escape, there is no seat whilst they pander to Lewis. Who made more mistakes last weekend than Russell.
Wolff reminds me a lot of Lance Armstrong during his successful days: Very powerful figure, you act against his personal interests and you're punished, you act accordingly, you're rewarded, and even when you drive for another team you should be loyal to his, else he threatens to ruin your career.
So kinda like any powerful person anywhere.
You can ask Ocon and Pascal Wehrlein about it. I'm pretty sure they would agree with you.
What part of Mercedes development driver do you not understand?
The point is that Charles has to prove himself, and taking out one of their cars is not a very smart way of doing it
@@valerierodger7700 first of all you got the wrong name. Guess you are a ferrari fan, so no problem.
second, his intention was never to crash into each other. As any race driver would, he saw the opportunity to overtake another car and went for it. He got spooked by Bottas line correction, so George overcorrected and made a mess of it. I agree with stewards decision to deem it a racing incident because both drivers are to blame.
Last, the fact that he can no longer "Race" the Mercedes is what sucks about the situation. In Toto's mind Gio or Mick cant fight the Ferraris or Yuki/Gasly cant try to overtake Verst/Perez. Utter bollocks.
Strange comparison but ok lol
next year if russel doesnt get the seat
you will hear this incident as an excuse from toto and hamilton
He hasn't earned it yet. He still has a lot to learn.
@@officialWWM ain't that the truth
@@officialWWM he literally almost won last year in his stand in race for hamilton if it wasnt for a mercedes pitstop error and beat bottas on top of it. how does he have to prove anything? i dont understand youtube low iq comments
@@officialWWM what are you even on about? He hasn't earned it? He's been in the slowest car by miles for three years in a row, and despite this regularly puts it in q2 and has been dominant at the team. He nearly got pole in sakihr and should've won the race, all while absolutely obliterating bottas. I'm pretty sure he's fucking earned it
@@ImK4Os also never been outqualified by a teammate in his team. And latifi is not a bad driver, nor was kubica despite his accident
Netflix rubbing there hands together rn 100%!
DRAMA!! More drama mwahaha!
Their*
I like how basically the opinion of Simon Roberts seems irrelevant even though George is at the end of the day a Williams driver 😂😂
She's irrelevant, the whole team is gonna go bankrupt if they don't get sponsors soon
@@jasperthefriendlyghost4073 in your rush to be sexist you seem to have forgotten that Simon is a man and Claire and the Williams family sold their stake in the team last year.
Hahaha... absolutely agree. My first thought was actually, who is Simon Roberts? Then I googled him...
@@edwinsmith9617 he is probably german or smthing where the genus for opinion is female and not neutral. I dont think he tried to be sexist.
@@edwinsmith9617 Oh shit, here comes the PC babies.
He's a racing driver it's hard to say no to an overtake. Especially when the guy your overtaking is the seat you want.
But if the crash is a racing incident, you don't blame the other driver and then hit him in the head, especially if you twitched and ended up in the grass.
Mercedes is emotionally abusing this poor guy. It’s so sad and wicked
It has been a part of F1 for a while that the #2 driver gets shit and the #1 driver gets the support.
Now how about the #3 driver that a team could have.
'It would be a shame if something were to happen to that potential mercedes seat for 2022..' Treating him like a college intern. Probably ask him to bring coffee to Mercedes HQ as well
But George crushed into Bottas lest we forget.
@@ehimenoseghale2642 maybe but he was doing his job. F!!! Mercedes they don’t “own f1” it’s about who’s a better driver with the machine they are given.
Toto is wicked indeed... !
"If there is a gap, and you don't take it, then you are no longer a racing driver"
No when the gap is closing and you're running onto the wet glass LMAO.
@@Mxnlt You close a gap by being faster and not allowing someone to overtake, not by swerving in front of him, by your logic I would just be slow and swerve în front of everybody so they wouldn't overtake. Or are you just trolling, in that case nevermind.
I see this as Toto giving his veteran driver a vote of confidence. You see this all the time and other sports.
Yeah bottas could use a vote of confidence because hes not going to be doing anything noteworthy.
@@Samuraid77 all he's doing or done is help Lewis win by being shit in the same car
A veteran driver who is average and below average in many respects. Put my money on the idea that if he and Russell were in reverse order Russell would be up in the fight with Norris leclerc and Hamilton. Not getting over taken by an inferior car.
@Mo Elm he's a sook cry baby no room for him at Mercedes
LOL....just make sure the engineers take three tenths a lap out of Bottas car versus Hamiltons car on race day.
I hope Russell gets another chase to over take Bottas or Hamilton... And the come on radio to ask "Toto, can I pass please?"
and never in your life dream of race with merc never again..
@@pabloata4708 "Alrighty then.°
The problem is he didn’t pass anyone. He got over anxious and ran out of room and talent. He may be a future champion, but at the moment he is only a journeyman driver with a champions attitude. He needs to work on that part a little bit.
Nobody has problem with passing, they have problem that he is not competent to pass enough and instead crashes into the other car...
I like how Wolff's whole argument is , "he shouldn't have tried to pass a mercedes." What a tosser, if it was a redbull he tried to pass and crashed out with Wolff would've been the first to praise the attempt.
@Demyx no u
@Demyx Toto is objectively a massive tosser though. George Russell would be driving a Redbull or a Ferrari right now if he'd dumped Toto.
@Demyx agreed
But thats the thing
*Its a Mercedes*
Not a RedBull
@Demyx he basically said Russel should think about his career before overtaking a mercedes car. In other, less pr bullshittery words: "we should make it illegal for anyone to overtake my cars >:("
Maybe the real question should have been, why would Bottas try to make an aggressive defending move when conditions were poor? Shame on Wolff for trying to manipulate a competitors driver! The suggestion that a driver shouldn't challenge a Mercedes is ludicrous at best!
Why is Mercedes angry when the got 18 points Cus of the crash?
To distract from that very fact. This looked WAY too much like the Singapore incident that benefited Alonso. The goal is to put the focus on Russell and let him take the fall, not how Bottas orchestrated an incredibly convenient red flag which gave Mercedes enough time to repair Hamilton's car.
@@flyingphoenix113 This is why F1 fans are regarded as some of the dumbest sports fans
@@flyingphoenix113 Not just repair Hamilton`s car, but also unlap him. (He was lapped at that point of the race), That`s why i think the whole red flag rule, stating that lapped cars can unlap themselves during the red flag, is just a joke. In this particular race this rule directly affected the chamionship standings. Lapped cars should stay lapped during a red flag situation.
@@thelarry383 you just made up that 'fact' 😄
@@thelarry383 😂😂 he actually made a great point
They probably ended up getting more points than they would have lol
All jokes a side that's totally true, Bottas and Lewis would barely get any team points without the safety car and Mercedes would be behind Red Bull in constructors championship now. Toto is not really obset about the destroyed car but rather Russels behavior and attitude, too childish and immature. He misjudged his maneuver, ended up crashing into Bottas, he is still a rookie , dont have a lot of experience especially on the wet track so that's ok, but the fact that he still doesn't want to accept absolutely any responsibility for that crash is what really concerns Toto Wolf now, it means Russel isn't mature enough to replace Bottas yet ...
Also, glossed over bottas having an awful drive
@@Nikowalker007 yes, I 100% agree
The question is how Bottas in a Mercedes was about to get overtaken by a Williams ????
Tires on bottas's car are shit
Bottas didn't get his tires working on saturday and sunday.
@@gachaharemseries2029 lol... same tires as in every other car... bottas management on the tires is the only thing shit there.
Bottas is a low profile driver that's the fact
@@alfonsoaparicio2833 doesn't mean all of the tires condition are the same when they put it on bruv
Just one of those racing incidents!
Wolff can stomp his foot all he wants but any driver would've gone for that.
Between Turkey, Bahrein and now this, Bottas needs to prove himself.
Lewis made that same move multiple times and did it expertly.............russel still a lot to learn.
Only thing Russel did wrong was being too inexperienced to finish the move properly
@@ddha0000 Yeah, Russell can use more experience, but what the hell was a Merc doing fighting for 9th in the first place?
Bottas needs to make way for real drivers.
@@ddha0000 Lewis was left that crucial half a cars width.
George secretly signed for red bull 2022 insider sabotage 😂
Didn't this only massively help Hamilton who otherwise would have had no shot at getting any points?
@@NapsterRulez he probably would have finished p9 or something, but definitely big points loss.
"Are you guys silly? I'm still gonna send it" -Russell in the debrief (probably)
THAT is BRILLIANT. 😆