@@pixytorres7117τα τελευταία 20 χρόνια 4 έχει παρει όχι 7 την τελευταία δεκαετία έχει 1 στη μοναδική συμμετοχή του σε F4. Βέβαια αυτά είναι άσχετα με το γεγονός ότι σε πονάει τόσο ο Μπαρτζωκας που μπαίνεις να γράψεις για την προσωπικότητα του λες και τον ξέρεις και από χθες όταν έχεις προπονητή έναν που χαλιέται με ένα απλό πανο εναντίον της 50χρονης εισβολής και κατοχής της Κύπρου από το καθεστώς της χώρας του.
I watch your channel regularelly although i dont comment. But as an Olympiacos fan i have to say that the vast majority of our teams fans loves Bartzokas and we dont even think about replacing him. All these negative comments comes mostly from rival media ''journalists'' that payed from Giannakopoulos. He loves creating problems to Olympiacos out of nothing, and this is not something new. Its over a decade. This debate is mostly fake because 'The Great Chess Player'' as we call Bartzokas, is not going to leave the team, unless he decides to do so. End of story.
After the match against panathinaikos i was talking with an olympiacos fan and what he said really changed my perspective on Bartzokas. He said “Bartzokas IS olympiacos, the owners trust him and have built this team for HIM. At the same time, the owners gave players the impression that they are more important than Bartzokas and they shouldn’t think that.”
mostly the pana social media trolls don't like bartzokas. the truth is that the 95% of oly fans love him and appreciate his huge contribution to the team and the philosophy he has established to the organisation. now see how the pana trolls will answer under my comment.
I m sick and tired of the greek fanbase in general. They are addicted to wins, not to the beauty of the sport. And of course most of them haven't touched a basketball in their lives. Bartzokas' job is to secure an uncontested shot for his players ( apart from the defence part ). He cannot get it and pull the shot by himself.
Guys probably you dont know olympiakos fans. We love Bartzokas beacuse he is fan of the team as us. He will never leave from olympiakos. We easily beat Barcelona and Real and we lost from panathinaikos because they were shooting with 60% in 3points . Olympiakos will destroy all the teams in 2 months. Dont forget that we also expect evans to join. Imagine a team with evans, fourniet, mckisic , vezenkof and fal. Just unbeatable
It was a miracle that Olympiacos only lost by 7 points in that game. It felt more like a 20-point game in PAO's favor, but as usual, they relaxed toward the end, allowing Olympiacos to close the gap. PAO's talent at the guard spots is so strong that they can easily have nights where they’re hitting 3-pointers at a high rate. Honestly, the talent gap in these spots compared to any other team in Europe is pretty chaotic. Keenan Evans has already suffered two potential career ending injuries in the past two seasons, so good luck with that.
Bartzokas was voted by his colleagues best Euroleague coach two seasons in a row. He managed to go to three final fours with a below average cost roster playing beautiful basketball according to every pundit and commentator. He constantly beat Panathinaikos when the cost of both teams roster was comparable. Last year Panathinaikos spent a lot of money and purchased a very expensive roster with which they won the Euroleague fairly. They had the better players and a good coach. Olympiakos lost the Euroleague MVP and another of their star players (Sloukas) but they managed to go to the final four with Brasdeikis and Sikma. An injury plagued Olympiakos squad lost the Greek finals 3-2 with a difference of 1 basket, against a more talented and a lot more expensive Panathinaikos squad. So the conversation around Bartzokas replacement is an orchestrated effort to undermine him because Panathinaikos fear that when the budget difference is not huge Panathinaikos might lose beacause of the edge Bartzokas give to Olympiakos teaM. The argument that Bartzokas is not a great coach because he did not win the last 3 final fours is idiotic. It is like saying that Obradovic now is a shit coach or that Ataman could win it with the roster Panathinaikos had 3 years ago. People claiming otherwise may think they appear smart but it is the other way around. They publicly demonstrate a lack of reasoning ability.
@@yerosh zeliko has 9 euroleague titles... Dont desrespect him.... And his winning percentage is 50% (9 wins in 18 final 4s). Is anything common with coach b??? NOTHING...
@stefkoutsoukos8039 please read my post again. My point is exactly the opposite. Zeliko is the best coach in the history of Euroleague. He did not become a bad coach because he doesn't win it with Partizan. It is the same situation with Bartzokas not winning it the last two years. The teams who won had better players. Winning percentage means nothing. Doesn't take in consideration the quality of the players
@@yerosh winning percentage means nothing???? I think it shows longetivity commitment and winning mentality. All basketball fans we know bartzokas is a mastermind but after 50 years if he has only 1 euroleague he wont be remembered as high as other legends. Thats the nature of professional sports. U think if sir alex Ferguson hadnt won those big trophies in his career he would be remembered as an all time manager cause he gave chances to talented youngsters? To conclude he is a big thinker of basketball but if he doesnt win more big trophies like euroleagues he wont be remembered in future
@@stefkoutsoukos8039yeah. Last 12 years Bartzokas and Obradovic have the same amount of Euroleagues. Obradovic having big budgets. he only won a final 4 in Istanbul with Fener. Bartzokas with budgets like the Partizan one got to final4 4 times this decade.
@@miralex67 u are right. History will write that in the span of 2012-2024 they have the same euroleagues... What about the history in general? Zeliko is not 15 years coach... He is like 35 years... U doesn't make sense. U want only to compare last 12 years??? Btw when he won with Partizan and badalona he didnt have the biggest budget.... Learn more pls
Coach B until the sun stops shining ! Everyone think their elite coaches but who knows how they would do with the budget coach b had all these years . 3 final fours with a budget under 15 million with no superstars . Top coaches like obradovic for example left panathinaikos when the big budget stopped .bartzokas makes superstars . Nobody in the club nor the stands want bartzokas to leave olympiakos . That’s bullsh1t panathinaikos papers write. He is one of us , supports olympiakos since he was a child and one of the best coaches in Europe and that’s just facts. Now, as for the team , day by day the team is getting better and loses are in the program so their is no need for people worrying about the team . The season just began and it’s a long way till the end . We want to see good basketball and if titles come , then , even better ! In Bartzokas we trust !!
@ who made vezenkov a superstar ? Now , yes he is !! When olympiakos went to 3 final fours , no he wasn’t . He wasn’t bought as a superstar . He is now due to his hard work and coach B . You should read my first comment a bit better before you comment my friend …
@@kt_85 just looked it up. Vezenkov played since 2018, his first F4 with oly was in 2021, when his stats were superstar player stats. I'm not saying that Bartzokas had nothing to do with Vezenkov's development into the player he is now, but you had a superstar when you made those F4
@ have you seen any superstar getting paid 900k ? He become. Superstar in the hands of bartzokas , due to his hard work and through olympiakos gameplay an have many more players become stars because of olympiakos . Fournier came and got paid as a superstar because of his history as a player this year so did Sasha because now he is !!
@@zgis6290 You are out of your frisking mind!!! Vezenkov was NOWHERE CLOSE to being a superstar before Bartzokas made him one! He left as a big failure from Barcelona and Bartzokas turned him into an MVP! He then tried to the NBA, he did not do good there either, because, guess what, THER WAS NO COACH BARTZOKAS THERE TO DESIGN PLAYS FOR HIM!!! Bartzokas made his team's today's superstars, Olympiakos has made his own superstars: Walkup, Fall, Dorsey, Vezenkov, Milutinov, Papanikolaou, Larentzakis, Wright, McKissic, all of them either created their name or made a huge step-up in their careers while being players of Olympiakos. They were not "elsewhere made" superstars who were bought by the club's owners...Even Evan Fournier, he signed to Olympiakos by his own desire, which he had publicly expressed several years ago, exactly because he was thrilled by the way coach Bartzokas and Olympiakos played. This is not a bought team...This is a team made from scratch!
First of all Congratulations for the podcasts... Of course, there is no need for the coach to leave... After all, the truth is that after the match against Barcelona, he thanked the crowd for deifying him by entering the pitch before the match started. Also, his assistant coach Bozikas mentioned the support of the crowd and how important it was after 3 consecutive bad defeats. It has been widely commented that there are some "keyboard fans" who write stupid things online, but they do not represent the majority of fans. Bartzokas was deified when he entered the field and this was the biggest support from the fans, which was recognized by the whole organization of Olympiacos... Congratulations again guys...
Having burned my macbook pro M3 with a small cup of tea.... watching you guys having your glasses of water next to your Macs make me worry more than Olympiacos loosing Bartzokas...Make Apple Care plus....Good shows as always...greetings from Greece!
The vast majority of Olympiacos fans, believe in coach Bartzokas system and highly respect him as "general". Bartzokas has Olympiacos fan spirit, that's why you see him going crazy in every match. The replacement words comes from Panathinaikos popaganda media.
No need change anything, team added 3 guards and Venzekov so need time especially for guards, also first games played without both towers - few bad games in start its fine
Let's clarify some things about what is really going on with Coach Bartzokas and what the Olympiacos world thinks of him. Generally, in Greece, people lack patience and forget very easily. A run of bad results can cause a section of fans to react impulsively and call for heads to roll. The organization of Olympiakos has always been very difficult in this regard; the position of the coach is like an electric chair, and many times, in the past, two or three defeats were enough for the team to change coaches (usually, this was done in the football department). Some people know this fact very well, and that’s how some journalists appear in the media, presenting themselves as "objective," but whose main purpose is to harm Olympiakos. After every defeat of Olympiakos, these journalists and media outlets exclusively target Coach Bartzokas, holding him solely responsible for the defeat or poor performance of the team, with the obvious intention of influencing as large a portion of the Olympiakos fans as possible. What is being attempted is a targeted campaign against this man with the sole purpose of forcing him out of his position. Fortunately, coutch Bartzokas , George and Panagiotis Angelopoulos, who are the presidents of the team, as well as a large portion of the fans who genuinely adore Coach Bartzokas, are aware of this. To conclude the discussion, Coach Bartzokas is not going to leave for sure until the end of the season and will probably stay for many more years at Olympiakos. Besides, it would be foolish for a team to fire a coach who has led them to Final Four three times and has a perpetual rival since taking over the team, boasting an impressive 8-1 record in domestic titles.
Our coach is the best of Europe for 4-5 years.. We lost 3 final four because we lack 2 killers players ... I think we found them... I don't know if we win this year, but we definitely will at least 1 in the following 4 years.. Olympiakos....
Maybe write something on your website about Motiunas still being related with Zalgiris as a owner? That he is still hidden president and being a shadow 0resident making all the moves in club? Maybe that explains how can Zalgiris be first in Euroleague while not being in top 5 in any basletball parameter..
PAO Fans hate bartzokas because since he arrived he has 8/9 titles in greece. he has beat pao with +30 and then pao fans destroyed the oaka. and allso they hate him because he is olympiacos supporter and that hurts the green rabits .
You have to see things from an Oly fans perspective. Our team has been one of the best teams for the last 5 years and we didn't win anything. Pana came to the F4 after 12 years of being mediocre or bad, and they won it. The truth is that in basketball, raw talent is more important than having a great coach.. that's what Oly was lacking last year , this year were heading towards this direction
@@GeorgeTsirikakis Και ποιος θα σου φερει Ευρωλιγκα τωρα; Ο Ιτουδης και ο Σπανουλης; Αμα δεν το παρει και αυτη την χρονια, αντε να μιλησεις για αλλαγη Μπαρτζωκα. Αμα λες να φυγει ο Μπαρτζωκας πριν τελειωσει η χρονια, μην ασχολεισαι με το μπασκετ πια.
@@stefkoutsoukos8039 οκ έχεις δίκιο σε αυτό … πάντως εγώ πιστεύω ότι δε φταίει η περσινή μας επιτυχία , φταίει το ότι δεν έχει φέρει τίτλο ευρωπαϊκό τα τελευταία 11 χρόνια .
Coach B comes close to the cup but don't take it. Ataman did it in one year, thw owners of Oly BC gave him a brave budget increase this year, the pressure is all on him this year to do it.
I am an Olympiakos fan that dislikes Mpartzokas but I am in a tiny minority. So, I rarely express my opinion and just sit there and wait for things to change. He is smart but has a limit, which is the second/third place. The one Euroleague he has achieved is due to the greatest basketball general Duda Ivkovic. He kinda tried to copy his model by finding players and developing them like Duda but he failed miserably. Every next season he missed more of those transfers with the last one being the worst of them all. Somehow he managed to find a bunch of guys who can't shoot. To top it all he sacrificed Sloukas for the bricklayer Walkup( who otherwise is the best defender but that's far from enough to replace the lack of talent). This year, even though the management saw the gap that was being created by the DPG spending, and invested heavily the gap that Sloukas left can not be replaced by the bricklayer. So it's going to be really hard to find a way to play if possible at all. Fortunately this season will make or brake him
Panathinaikos will never have again the same performance. Sloukas has major issues with knees and cant play more than 15 minutes maximum. Bartzokas is like pope in NBA . Thinks out of the box. There is no better coach in europe than him. All the others are playing with budget of 40+ million euros and besides that he managed to go in f4 three straight times. We will easily win it this time. And yes you are really the minority of oly fans. Maybe you belong to 0.0001%.
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΣΠΥΡΕΑΣ Even though I know Sloukas I don't know anything about the knees thing. Maybe you know something I don't. The point wasn't Sloukas himself but an equal replacement of a player of his caliber. Bartzokas is like Pope is an overstatement, he just seems good cause there are no good coaches anymore in general. Even the Serbs don't produce them anymore. I am okay with being in a minority, I spent my whole life being in one. That's why I don't say much all these years respecting the love and preference of the majority.
@@miralex67 I wasn't even born in this country so maybe Kokkalis and Marinakis are your fathers but not mine. So is your favorite player Larentzakis/Mantzaris or Spanoulis? the one has a burning desire to win and the other doesn't care so much. The desire and metal of victory are encoded in the Olympiakos DNA. If you are a fan of second places good for you, but take your assumptions elsewhere.
@@Stef-m8l After the comment " i will stay in the corner waiting for the change" you lost every credibility. Stay there and wait for the Messiah and let the true fans fight
Problem with Olympiacos,they have no guards that great at P&R...Put Moses Wright on team with top class guard..dude will average crazy numbers like 15 points 10 rebs
The problem for Moses is his defence. He is very bad in rebounding, doesn't box out, and in pick and roll also lacks the basketball iq to position himself properly in order to defend accordingly to the type of defense his team chose.
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Coach B one of the best in Europe and brilliant personality also!!
If you think Bartzokas has brilliant personalized then I'm sad for you.
@@pixytorres7117 pao fan detected
@@soiletsman9105 7 times Euroleague champion and most successful team in the last 20 years*
Brilliant personality..LMAO😂😂😂😂😂
@@pixytorres7117τα τελευταία 20 χρόνια 4 έχει παρει όχι 7 την τελευταία δεκαετία έχει 1 στη μοναδική συμμετοχή του σε F4. Βέβαια αυτά είναι άσχετα με το γεγονός ότι σε πονάει τόσο ο Μπαρτζωκας που μπαίνεις να γράψεις για την προσωπικότητα του λες και τον ξέρεις και από χθες όταν έχεις προπονητή έναν που χαλιέται με ένα απλό πανο εναντίον της 50χρονης εισβολής και κατοχής της Κύπρου από το καθεστώς της χώρας του.
Thank you for another "Greek podcast". In Greece there is a word for coach b Bartzokism (like budism). Nice idea for t shirt
@@George-hx4vs or like masochism
I watch your channel regularelly although i dont comment. But as an Olympiacos fan i have to say that the vast majority of our teams fans loves Bartzokas and we dont even think about replacing him. All these negative comments comes mostly from rival media ''journalists'' that payed from Giannakopoulos. He loves creating problems to Olympiacos out of nothing, and this is not something new. Its over a decade. This debate is mostly fake because 'The Great Chess Player'' as we call Bartzokas, is not going to leave the team, unless he decides to do so. End of story.
After the match against panathinaikos i was talking with an olympiacos fan and what he said really changed my perspective on Bartzokas. He said “Bartzokas IS olympiacos, the owners trust him and have built this team for HIM. At the same time, the owners gave players the impression that they are more important than Bartzokas and they shouldn’t think that.”
mostly the pana social media trolls don't like bartzokas. the truth is that the 95% of oly fans love him and appreciate his huge contribution to the team and the philosophy he has established to the organisation.
now see how the pana trolls will answer under my comment.
Who were chasing him in the parking lot some years ago? Pana fans ?
Ρε σε εμάς μια χαρά αρέσει , αυτό δεν καταλαβαίνεις !!! Μπαρτζωκας μέχρι να σβήσει ο ήλιος !!!
I hope he stays for a decade more. We want mr bean
@@Stathispappthe scientists basketball fans of Olympiakos.
You don't understand,
Panathinaikos fans want bartzokas to stay forever in olympiakos
Especially with an expensive roster
I m sick and tired of the greek fanbase in general. They are addicted to wins, not to the beauty of the sport. And of course most of them haven't touched a basketball in their lives.
Bartzokas' job is to secure an uncontested shot for his players ( apart from the defence part ). He cannot get it and pull the shot by himself.
It's only a game if you win. If you lose , it' a freaking waste of time.
Everybody plays to win. Bartzokas may be the only coach who also gets the sport more beautiful through his systems, personality and statements.
Guys probably you dont know olympiakos fans. We love Bartzokas beacuse he is fan of the team as us. He will never leave from olympiakos. We easily beat Barcelona and Real and we lost from panathinaikos because they were shooting with 60% in 3points . Olympiakos will destroy all the teams in 2 months. Dont forget that we also expect evans to join. Imagine a team with evans, fourniet, mckisic , vezenkof and fal. Just unbeatable
It was a miracle that Olympiacos only lost by 7 points in that game. It felt more like a 20-point game in PAO's favor, but as usual, they relaxed toward the end, allowing Olympiacos to close the gap. PAO's talent at the guard spots is so strong that they can easily have nights where they’re hitting 3-pointers at a high rate. Honestly, the talent gap in these spots compared to any other team in Europe is pretty chaotic.
Keenan Evans has already suffered two potential career ending injuries in the past two seasons, so good luck with that.
Bartzokas was voted by his colleagues best Euroleague coach two seasons in a row. He managed to go to three final fours with a below average cost roster playing beautiful basketball according to every pundit and commentator. He constantly beat Panathinaikos when the cost of both teams roster was comparable. Last year Panathinaikos spent a lot of money and purchased a very expensive roster with which they won the Euroleague fairly. They had the better players and a good coach. Olympiakos lost the Euroleague MVP and another of their star players (Sloukas) but they managed to go to the final four with Brasdeikis and Sikma. An injury plagued Olympiakos squad lost the Greek finals 3-2 with a difference of 1 basket, against a more talented and a lot more expensive Panathinaikos squad. So the conversation around Bartzokas replacement is an orchestrated effort to undermine him because Panathinaikos fear that when the budget difference is not huge Panathinaikos might lose beacause of the edge Bartzokas give to Olympiakos teaM. The argument that Bartzokas is not a great coach because he did not win the last 3 final fours is idiotic. It is like saying that Obradovic now is a shit coach or that Ataman could win it with the roster Panathinaikos had 3 years ago. People claiming otherwise may think they appear smart but it is the other way around. They publicly demonstrate a lack of reasoning ability.
@@yerosh zeliko has 9 euroleague titles... Dont desrespect him.... And his winning percentage is 50% (9 wins in 18 final 4s). Is anything common with coach b??? NOTHING...
@stefkoutsoukos8039 please read my post again. My point is exactly the opposite. Zeliko is the best coach in the history of Euroleague. He did not become a bad coach because he doesn't win it with Partizan. It is the same situation with Bartzokas not winning it the last two years. The teams who won had better players. Winning percentage means nothing. Doesn't take in consideration the quality of the players
@@yerosh winning percentage means nothing???? I think it shows longetivity commitment and winning mentality. All basketball fans we know bartzokas is a mastermind but after 50 years if he has only 1 euroleague he wont be remembered as high as other legends. Thats the nature of professional sports. U think if sir alex Ferguson hadnt won those big trophies in his career he would be remembered as an all time manager cause he gave chances to talented youngsters? To conclude he is a big thinker of basketball but if he doesnt win more big trophies like euroleagues he wont be remembered in future
@@stefkoutsoukos8039yeah. Last 12 years Bartzokas and Obradovic have the same amount of Euroleagues. Obradovic having big budgets. he only won a final 4 in Istanbul with Fener. Bartzokas with budgets like the Partizan one got to final4 4 times this decade.
@@miralex67 u are right. History will write that in the span of 2012-2024 they have the same euroleagues... What about the history in general? Zeliko is not 15 years coach... He is like 35 years... U doesn't make sense. U want only to compare last 12 years??? Btw when he won with Partizan and badalona he didnt have the biggest budget.... Learn more pls
Coach B until the sun stops shining ! Everyone think their elite coaches but who knows how they would do with the budget coach b had all these years . 3 final fours with a budget under 15 million with no superstars . Top coaches like obradovic for example left panathinaikos when the big budget stopped .bartzokas makes superstars . Nobody in the club nor the stands want bartzokas to leave olympiakos . That’s bullsh1t panathinaikos papers write. He is one of us , supports olympiakos since he was a child and one of the best coaches in Europe and that’s just facts.
Now, as for the team , day by day the team is getting better and loses are in the program so their is no need for people worrying about the team . The season just began and it’s a long way till the end . We want to see good basketball and if titles come , then , even better !
In Bartzokas we trust !!
If Vezenkov is not a superstar with 5 mil contract or whatever than I guess we have 0 superstars in Euroleague
@ who made vezenkov a superstar ? Now , yes he is !! When olympiakos went to 3 final fours , no he wasn’t . He wasn’t bought as a superstar . He is now due to his hard work and coach B .
You should read my first comment a bit better before you comment my friend …
@@kt_85 just looked it up. Vezenkov played since 2018, his first F4 with oly was in 2021, when his stats were superstar player stats. I'm not saying that Bartzokas had nothing to do with Vezenkov's development into the player he is now, but you had a superstar when you made those F4
@ have you seen any superstar getting paid 900k ? He become. Superstar in the hands of bartzokas , due to his hard work and through olympiakos gameplay an have many more players become stars because of olympiakos .
Fournier came and got paid as a superstar because of his history as a player this year so did Sasha because now he is !!
@@zgis6290 You are out of your frisking mind!!! Vezenkov was NOWHERE CLOSE to being a superstar before Bartzokas made him one! He left as a big failure from Barcelona and Bartzokas turned him into an MVP! He then tried to the NBA, he did not do good there either, because, guess what, THER WAS NO COACH BARTZOKAS THERE TO DESIGN PLAYS FOR HIM!!! Bartzokas made his team's today's superstars, Olympiakos has made his own superstars: Walkup, Fall, Dorsey, Vezenkov, Milutinov, Papanikolaou, Larentzakis, Wright, McKissic, all of them either created their name or made a huge step-up in their careers while being players of Olympiakos. They were not "elsewhere made" superstars who were bought by the club's owners...Even Evan Fournier, he signed to Olympiakos by his own desire, which he had publicly expressed several years ago, exactly because he was thrilled by the way coach Bartzokas and Olympiakos played. This is not a bought team...This is a team made from scratch!
Bartzokas will stay as long as HE wants. He will only be replaced if HE decides to leave and he has earned that right.
bartzokas has done so many for olympiacos, there is no reason to drop him just for 3 losses
Nice video once again. I'm OLY fan and i agree with you 100% guys.
First of all Congratulations for the podcasts... Of course, there is no need for the coach to leave... After all, the truth is that after the match against Barcelona, he thanked the crowd for deifying him by entering the pitch before the match started. Also, his assistant coach Bozikas mentioned the support of the crowd and how important it was after 3 consecutive bad defeats.
It has been widely commented that there are some "keyboard fans" who write stupid things online, but they do not represent the majority of fans. Bartzokas was deified when he entered the field and this was the biggest support from the fans, which was recognized by the whole organization of Olympiacos... Congratulations again guys...
Having burned my macbook pro M3 with a small cup of tea.... watching you guys having your glasses of water next to your Macs make me worry more than Olympiacos loosing Bartzokas...Make Apple Care plus....Good shows as always...greetings from Greece!
The only issue with Bartzokas is the Olympiacos owners that do not protect him from the trolls and dirty reporters.
The vast majority of Olympiacos fans, believe in coach Bartzokas system and highly respect him as "general". Bartzokas has Olympiacos fan spirit, that's why you see him going crazy in every match. The replacement words comes from Panathinaikos popaganda media.
No need change anything, team added 3 guards and Venzekov so need time especially for guards, also first games played without both towers - few bad games in start its fine
Let's clarify some things about what is really going on with Coach Bartzokas and what the Olympiacos world thinks of him. Generally, in Greece, people lack patience and forget very easily. A run of bad results can cause a section of fans to react impulsively and call for heads to roll. The organization of Olympiakos has always been very difficult in this regard; the position of the coach is like an electric chair, and many times, in the past, two or three defeats were enough for the team to change coaches (usually, this was done in the football department).
Some people know this fact very well, and that’s how some journalists appear in the media, presenting themselves as "objective," but whose main purpose is to harm Olympiakos. After every defeat of Olympiakos, these journalists and media outlets exclusively target Coach Bartzokas, holding him solely responsible for the defeat or poor performance of the team, with the obvious intention of influencing as large a portion of the Olympiakos fans as possible.
What is being attempted is a targeted campaign against this man with the sole purpose of forcing him out of his position. Fortunately, coutch Bartzokas , George and Panagiotis Angelopoulos, who are the presidents of the team, as well as a large portion of the fans who genuinely adore Coach Bartzokas, are aware of this.
To conclude the discussion, Coach Bartzokas is not going to leave for sure until the end of the season and will probably stay for many more years at Olympiakos. Besides, it would be foolish for a team to fire a coach who has led them to Final Four three times and has a perpetual rival since taking over the team, boasting an impressive 8-1 record in domestic titles.
Only the beginning, the season just started....
Bartzokas the best coach euroleague that time bartzokas system is unguardable
Our coach is the best of Europe for 4-5 years..
We lost 3 final four because we lack 2 killers players ...
I think we found them...
I don't know if we win this year, but we definitely will at least 1 in the following 4 years..
Olympiakos....
Nobody doubts Bartzokas
In Bartzokas we trust!!
Bartzo a human been who cares more about the future of basketball and not only for the trophies
Maybe write something on your website about Motiunas still being related with Zalgiris as a owner? That he is still hidden president and being a shadow 0resident making all the moves in club? Maybe that explains how can Zalgiris be first in Euroleague while not being in top 5 in any basletball parameter..
The only thing olympiacos lacks is a very athletic 4-5.
Bartzokas Basketball is more intelligent than the others!
Yea that's why he destroyed Barcelona when he went there 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🇬🇷 🏀🔴⚪💪😎 O LY MPIACOS
PAO Fans hate bartzokas because since he arrived he has 8/9 titles in greece. he has beat pao with +30 and then pao fans destroyed the oaka. and allso they hate him because he is olympiacos supporter and that hurts the green rabits .
ΠΟΣΟ ΠΑΠΑΡΑΣ ΕΙΣΑΙ
@@dimitrists4354 so oly fans never criticised him. Thats new
You have to see things from an Oly fans perspective. Our team has been one of the best teams for the last 5 years and we didn't win anything.
Pana came to the F4 after 12 years of being mediocre or bad, and they won it.
The truth is that in basketball, raw talent is more important than having a great coach.. that's what Oly was lacking last year , this year were heading towards this direction
The game of basketball should be thankful to Lithuania
B-Ball or fall
Coach B forever!!!! Pao fan here !!!
Welcome to Greek attitude 😂😂
The ONLY problem is that PANATHINAIKOS took last year's Euroleague. Thats why u hear whispers of changing whatever they speak about
@@stefkoutsoukos8039 όχι φιλαράκο το προβλημα είναι ότι έχεις να πάρεις Ευρωλίγκα από το 13 ….
@@GeorgeTsirikakis Και ποιος θα σου φερει Ευρωλιγκα τωρα; Ο Ιτουδης και ο Σπανουλης; Αμα δεν το παρει και αυτη την χρονια, αντε να μιλησεις για αλλαγη Μπαρτζωκα. Αμα λες να φυγει ο Μπαρτζωκας πριν τελειωσει η χρονια, μην ασχολεισαι με το μπασκετ πια.
@@PersonaPrime μάλλον μπερδεύτηκες λίγο , και ήθελες να απαντήσεις αλλού ;;
@GeorgeTsirikakis φίλε Παναθηναϊκός είμαι.... Λες να ήμουν γαύρος και να έγραφα με κεφαλαία το όνομα του ΠΑΟ?
@@stefkoutsoukos8039 οκ έχεις δίκιο σε αυτό … πάντως εγώ πιστεύω ότι δε φταίει η περσινή μας επιτυχία , φταίει το ότι δεν έχει φέρει τίτλο ευρωπαϊκό τα τελευταία 11 χρόνια .
No nothing must change. They should always stay the champions of participation.. or as we say in Greece "the anakoufistres of f4"
Anakoufistra is how we call your mother as well. She relieves every single one with her amazing holes
Coach B comes close to the cup but don't take it. Ataman did it in one year, thw owners of Oly BC gave him a brave budget increase this year, the pressure is all on him this year to do it.
I am an Olympiakos fan that dislikes Mpartzokas but I am in a tiny minority. So, I rarely express my opinion and just sit there and wait for things to change. He is smart but has a limit, which is the second/third place. The one Euroleague he has achieved is due to the greatest basketball general Duda Ivkovic. He kinda tried to copy his model by finding players and developing them like Duda but he failed miserably. Every next season he missed more of those transfers with the last one being the worst of them all. Somehow he managed to find a bunch of guys who can't shoot. To top it all he sacrificed Sloukas for the bricklayer Walkup( who otherwise is the best defender but that's far from enough to replace the lack of talent). This year, even though the management saw the gap that was being created by the DPG spending, and invested heavily the gap that Sloukas left can not be replaced by the bricklayer. So it's going to be really hard to find a way to play if possible at all. Fortunately this season will make or brake him
Panathinaikos will never have again the same performance. Sloukas has major issues with knees and cant play more than 15 minutes maximum. Bartzokas is like pope in NBA . Thinks out of the box. There is no better coach in europe than him. All the others are playing with budget of 40+ million euros and besides that he managed to go in f4 three straight times. We will easily win it this time. And yes you are really the minority of oly fans. Maybe you belong to 0.0001%.
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΣΠΥΡΕΑΣ Even though I know Sloukas I don't know anything about the knees thing. Maybe you know something I don't. The point wasn't Sloukas himself but an equal replacement of a player of his caliber. Bartzokas is like Pope is an overstatement, he just seems good cause there are no good coaches anymore in general. Even the Serbs don't produce them anymore. I am okay with being in a minority, I spent my whole life being in one. That's why I don't say much all these years respecting the love and preference of the majority.
You are not an olympiacos fan. You are a football thinking fan. A fan of win. Kokkalis and Marinakis raised a lot of fans like you
@@miralex67 I wasn't even born in this country so maybe Kokkalis and Marinakis are your fathers but not mine. So is your favorite player Larentzakis/Mantzaris or Spanoulis? the one has a burning desire to win and the other doesn't care so much. The desire and metal of victory are encoded in the Olympiakos DNA. If you are a fan of second places good for you, but take your assumptions elsewhere.
@@Stef-m8l After the comment " i will stay in the corner waiting for the change" you lost every credibility. Stay there and wait for the Messiah and let the true fans fight
I mean he is good. But one coach is great when he wins !!!! And coach B can’t win !!!
16-0, και 2,5 χρόνια παντοκρατορια, σε κέρδισε με κάθε τρόπο. Λες να μη μπορεί να κερδίσει?
@ μάλιστα …. Ξέχασα ότι μετράτε παιχνίδια 😂😂… επίσης τα ευρωπαϊκά τρόπαια γιατί δεν τα γράφεις ;;;
@ επίσης αγαπητέ για να μάθεις να μιλάς … το παντοκρατορία σημαίνει ότι κέρδισε παντού !!! Στην Ευρώπη όμως υπάρχει τσαπου!!!!
@ άσε φτωχούλη μου … μην ασχολείσαι με μπάσκετ
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after oaka on friday ,by-by mparzokas ☘☘☘☘☘☘☘👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
But who will replace him? Not many good coaches around.
@@codingstyle9480Spanoulis is the next big thing.From a PAO fan
@@thanasistagaras3256 Βρε ταγαρι είσαι για γέλια
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@@thanasistagaras3256 Olympiacos is not Peristeri.
Barzokasball
Problem with Olympiacos,they have no guards that great at P&R...Put Moses Wright on team with top class guard..dude will average crazy numbers like 15 points 10 rebs
The problem for Moses is his defence. He is very bad in rebounding, doesn't box out, and in pick and roll also lacks the basketball iq to position himself properly in order to defend accordingly to the type of defense his team chose.
He is very bad at rebounding