Thanks Ntsikelelo for watching and being reminded of your history as a member of the SDA. I am delighted to know that you are anticipating the day you will return. It there is anything I can do to assist your journey back get in touch with on our WhatsApp at +27823330512. we look forward to hear from you.
Thanks Dr Papu and bro Melusi,I have been preaching this for a few years now and now my elders you have confirmed it. I am happy I converted to Adventism though sometimes I desire to have been born in this pure awesome faith.
You are most welcome. Thanks for sharing your decision to join Adventism - I am also impressed to hear that you have been teaching on these topics. You have come to the faith for such a time as this. keep preaching and teaching.
This a powerful topic my brother, these are issues which are costing the church today especially in music we are now mixing secular and sacred Which becomes contemporary music
Wonderful to hear pastor Papu as always. Long time from his days at Langa church with pastor Diamond 😅 Insightful and thought provoking discussion... Thank you both
It's a fact that many people ignore: Christianity is not a property of any nation. History of the Christian Church explains this so well but few study it thoroughly.
A good friend of mine had this to say about this conversation: I have listened to this and have a lot of respect for Dr Papu and the way he articulated himself in this podcast and as always at a very high level. Fundamentally I think he very cleverly set the foundation to end up with where he is at, so for anyone who is thinking otherwise this won’t help much. For example the way he cleverly and quite articulately stripped religion from culture and then classified it as higher than culture is really where the whole discussion fell flat as being on a level playing field.. it’s colonialistic in view and approach. Religion is part of culture you can’t strip it from it cause then you have an incomplete culture as it were… and that culture has no Center or fulcrum if you please… But a good discussion in all… there are some points I really enjoyed and others that are glaringly biased because obviously the one interviewing and the interviewee are within the same constituency… so it’s unavoidable… it’s staged more like a propaganda radio station during uMzabalazo or Fight for liberation 😀😀
Greetings mavuvuful. Thank you for sharing this feedback from your good friend on our discussion. We truly appreciate your engagement with the content - this needs critical thinking to appreciate this perspective. Allow me, as the host of the show and an Adventist, to respond to these thoughts. I hope you can share this with your good friend. At the heart of this podcast, we aim to explore the Adventist African Perspective, grounded in the understanding that faith is not merely a cultural construct but a divine revelation that transcends and informs culture. Our intent is not to diminish or ignore the rich tapestry of African cultural identity but to highlight how Adventist Christianity interacts with and elevates Biblical knowledge and practice above traditional and cultural heritage. We quoted Isaiah 8:19,20 on who we should consult. This perspective flows from our right, as Adventists, to articulate and defend our faith and heritage, just as any other community has the right to share its worldview. From 44 minutes, we make a serious cse for all man everywhere to experience the goodness of Biblical gospel. Regarding the critique of separating religion from culture, we assert that while religion often emerges within cultural contexts, biblical religion, as we understand it, points us beyond the confines of human traditions to a universal truth rooted in God's will. This transcendent foundation is what we believe gives culture its ultimate centre and fulcrum, aligning it with eternal principles rather than transient societal norms. We respect differing views on this matter and value such dialogues as opportunities to broaden understanding, even when perspectives diverge. As for the perception of bias, we acknowledge that our discussions are framed by our Adventist worldview. However, this does not diminish the depth or sincerity of the conversation. On the contrary, it underscores our commitment to provide a platform where we, as Adventists, can share our convictions honestly and robustly. Just as many voices during uMzabalazo unapologetically advocated for liberation, we unapologetically defend the principles of our Adventist Christian faith, which we believe liberates individuals spiritually and morally. Thank you again for watching, engaging, and sharing your thoughts. Your feedback enriches our dialogue and challenges us to continue refining how we communicate our message. We hope you’ll join us for future episodes as we explore these complex and vital topics. Do not hesitate to ask us any questions on these videos and if you want us to discuss further for clarity and learning
Thank you, Dr. Papu . Yes, the issue of the dead is strong and rampant among the Europeans big time, and Asians . I dont know about South Americans. Thank bro Ndhlalambi. Keep up the flame glowing.
Death: And it came to pass, as *her soul was in departing, (for she died)* that she called his name Ben-oni: but his father called him Benjamin. - Genesis 35:18 Resurrection: And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and *the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.* - 1 Kings 17:22
No Charles. You are misleading yourself and others with such poor theology. Jews only existed as a nation after the birth of Jacob's sons. The first Jew was Abraham? So, Where were Jews in Genesis when God created the world? The reason for keeping the Sabbath is because God created the world in six days and rested on the seventh. If the Sabbath is a Jewish custom, then marriage, business and all wealth-related practices are Jewish customs. Now you know that is a lie, right.
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I can listern to Dr Papu the whole day , i was once a member of SDA but backslided hopeful one day i will get up and go back
Tomorrow does not belong to us my friend, today is the day of salvation, choose this day who you will serve, tomorrow may be too late. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Praying for your soon return. God bless.
Thanks Ntsikelelo for watching and being reminded of your history as a member of the SDA. I am delighted to know that you are anticipating the day you will return. It there is anything I can do to assist your journey back get in touch with on our WhatsApp at +27823330512. we look forward to hear from you.
@@sowingseeds7102Lets pray that the LORD who planted that desire to return will see it happen. Let the Spirit lead.
@@mavuvufulThat is the way to go. We shall achieve much with our prayers.
Thanks Dr Papu and bro Melusi,I have been preaching this for a few years now and now my elders you have confirmed it. I am happy I converted to Adventism though sometimes I desire to have been born in this pure awesome faith.
You are most welcome. Thanks for sharing your decision to join Adventism - I am also impressed to hear that you have been teaching on these topics. You have come to the faith for such a time as this. keep preaching and teaching.
What a powerful episode!😊
Thank you for watching and leaving this comment.
This a powerful topic my brother, these are issues which are costing the church today especially in music we are now mixing secular and sacred Which becomes contemporary music
Thanks mfowethu. You are spot-on. African needs to distinguish the secular from the sacred.
This is such an insightful conversation. Thank you so much ☺️
Glad you enjoyed it!
Enjoyed the discussion
I cant wait for the next episode 🤭😊🤭
Wonderful to hear pastor Papu as always. Long time from his days at Langa church with pastor Diamond 😅 Insightful and thought provoking discussion... Thank you both
This is mind blowing! Probes the mind.
Thank you Jeniffer for the feedback. Keep watching and learning with us.
It's a fact that many people ignore: Christianity is not a property of any nation. History of the Christian Church explains this so well but few study it thoroughly.
Thanks Itu for your feedback. Indeed this is a critical dialogue and we pray that God helps us.
A good friend of mine had this to say about this conversation:
I have listened to this and have a lot of respect for Dr Papu and the way he articulated himself in this podcast and as always at a very high level.
Fundamentally I think he very cleverly set the foundation to end up with where he is at, so for anyone who is thinking otherwise this won’t help much.
For example the way he cleverly and quite articulately stripped religion from culture and then classified it as higher than culture is really where the whole discussion fell flat as being on a level playing field.. it’s colonialistic in view and approach.
Religion is part of culture you can’t strip it from it cause then you have an incomplete culture as it were… and that culture has no Center or fulcrum if you please…
But a good discussion in all… there are some points I really enjoyed and others that are glaringly biased because obviously the one interviewing and the interviewee are within the same constituency… so it’s unavoidable… it’s staged more like a propaganda radio station during uMzabalazo or Fight for liberation 😀😀
Greetings mavuvuful. Thank you for sharing this feedback from your good friend on our discussion. We truly appreciate your engagement with the content - this needs critical thinking to appreciate this perspective. Allow me, as the host of the show and an Adventist, to respond to these thoughts. I hope you can share this with your good friend.
At the heart of this podcast, we aim to explore the Adventist African Perspective, grounded in the understanding that faith is not merely a cultural construct but a divine revelation that transcends and informs culture. Our intent is not to diminish or ignore the rich tapestry of African cultural identity but to highlight how Adventist Christianity interacts with and elevates Biblical knowledge and practice above traditional and cultural heritage. We quoted Isaiah 8:19,20 on who we should consult. This perspective flows from our right, as Adventists, to articulate and defend our faith and heritage, just as any other community has the right to share its worldview. From 44 minutes, we make a serious cse for all man everywhere to experience the goodness of Biblical gospel.
Regarding the critique of separating religion from culture, we assert that while religion often emerges within cultural contexts, biblical religion, as we understand it, points us beyond the confines of human traditions to a universal truth rooted in God's will. This transcendent foundation is what we believe gives culture its ultimate centre and fulcrum, aligning it with eternal principles rather than transient societal norms. We respect differing views on this matter and value such dialogues as opportunities to broaden understanding, even when perspectives diverge.
As for the perception of bias, we acknowledge that our discussions are framed by our Adventist worldview. However, this does not diminish the depth or sincerity of the conversation. On the contrary, it underscores our commitment to provide a platform where we, as Adventists, can share our convictions honestly and robustly. Just as many voices during uMzabalazo unapologetically advocated for liberation, we unapologetically defend the principles of our Adventist Christian faith, which we believe liberates individuals spiritually and morally.
Thank you again for watching, engaging, and sharing your thoughts. Your feedback enriches our dialogue and challenges us to continue refining how we communicate our message. We hope you’ll join us for future episodes as we explore these complex and vital topics.
Do not hesitate to ask us any questions on these videos and if you want us to discuss further for clarity and learning
Thank you, Dr. Papu . Yes, the issue of the dead is strong and rampant among the Europeans big time, and Asians . I dont know about South Americans. Thank bro Ndhlalambi. Keep up the flame glowing.
Thanks mukoma Muchina for watching nd leaving a comment
Amen...
I keep coming to @33:40
Death:
And it came to pass, as *her soul was in departing, (for she died)* that she called his name Ben-oni: but his father called him Benjamin.
- Genesis 35:18
Resurrection:
And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and *the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.*
- 1 Kings 17:22
Going to Church on Sabbath was Jewish custom, Jesus Christ was a Jew too. Luke 4:16-17, Acts 17:2-3
No Charles. You are misleading yourself and others with such poor theology. Jews only existed as a nation after the birth of Jacob's sons. The first Jew was Abraham? So, Where were Jews in Genesis when God created the world? The reason for keeping the Sabbath is because God created the world in six days and rested on the seventh. If the Sabbath is a Jewish custom, then marriage, business and all wealth-related practices are Jewish customs. Now you know that is a lie, right.