dunno if you guys cares but if you guys are stoned like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all of the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my brother lately :)
You could also argue that the new standard keyboard design should be ortholinear and not staggered... Probably should be something like an ortholinear Colemak layout as standard
And even at a smaller scale, for example you could also argue that JavaScript is a ridiculous flawed language made up by some guy in a week that is full of blatant design mistakes and that we should switch it to one of many superior options, yet this also doesn't replace it
And of course Colemak itself and even its DH mod are already superceded by other better layouts based on more complete understanding of the principles, like the Nerps, Nerts and Hands down layouts. The basic theory behind Colemak and Colemak DH was incomplete and flawed And those newer layouts will likely be superceded by better layouts later when the understanding of the basics expands further and we will have better tools to design better layouts, it will probably move towards having more individualized layouts based on use case and hand size/proportions and maybe even differences in brains because we seem to be approaching the point when one layout is super-suitable for some, yet sucks for others
qwerty isn't to slow down, but to keep distance between letters that are regularly typed together, since otherwise the mechanism inside there could jam with each others. Not sure what happened with er there, but I guess those things weren't mechanically close to one another.
true, and the fastest typist out there uses the "supposedly to slow you down" qwerty layout. It has not been proven in any way that the layout helps, it's all preference.
@@StrayZero it doesn't actually matter whether or not qwerty or colemak is faster, what is a fact is that qwerty is bad for your wrists over time, dvorak, colemak, colemak dh, workman, they all require less movement of wrists, and less homerow jumping making it less straining for touch typing
This is actually so great haha awesome work. I’ve been considering cole. Not quite there yet but This will serve as solidarity when I’m questioning why I’ve made such an awful decision with my moonlander
I switched to colmakDH as well when I built my own split ergo keyboard since I type a whole lot as a programmer. I wasn't particularly amazingly fast since I only had like 70wpm on standard English and like 45wpm when typing code. After spending some time with it my code typing went up a lot because I didn't have to move my hands a whole bunch to type symbols or numbers anymore.
I switched keyboard layouts too. Went from 60wpm, to 10wpm to now 70wpm I use a layout I call "CNAEY" where the most common letters are centered around the homerow and the main fingers. So the layout I use is ,LSFPBWHU. CNAEYGTIOM ;XQRVKDJZ/
I've been using Dvorak for the last four years and bought a Moonlander a few days ago. I really recommend switching to a new layout, I think the advantages in the long therm worth the difficulties.
I actually did exactly the same thing as you, switched form QWERTY to Colemak at the same time as learning to use a split-keyboard (The Exgodox EZ). It took a few months of very painful slow typing but my typing speed caught back up and the strain on my fingers and wrists is way less.
Lol, I switched to Dvorak from QWERTY a few months before I got the Ergodox EZ. Nowadays, switching keyboards is easy in comparison to the months it took me to meet/beat my old 95WPM. I'm finally reaching speeds up to 110WPM, and the keyboard in combination with the new layout makes it much easier on my hands. Good video!
I suggest learning with mnemonics. I visited a course based on that and learned touch typing qwertz that way in 7h (soft muscle memory) as a teenager and definently will try to transfer that methodology to learn NEO2 one day.
@@NazraT1704 It was 11 years ago, so that specific course probably doesn't exist any more, and presumably not near you. It was called "touch typing in 4h (+3h breaks) for teenagers, based on mnemonic teaching techniques". You will find similar courses in an adult education centre near you or online. Basically it began with some meditation and then you memorized a funny story (that made use of all sensory channels and sub-modalities) and that connected the different fingers with the movements and the location of every single key. After 2-3 weeks I forgot most of it, but the soft muscle memory turned into persistent muscle memory by then.
I had multiple carpal tunneling surgeries in the past 7 years and it is basically because I program for long hours. I changed my layout, keyboard which slowed my work a lot and after a year with a Moonlander. My hands feel much better, I am typing as I was and even faster. It takes a lot of time and effort with the goal of a mind to help. Big companies don't really care, Microsoft doesn't control the keyboard market nor does anyone. However, the promotion of such things as of late has been very effective, also Microsoft has its own ergo keyboard and I knew one of their employees who uses it but switches to workman. The spread of these things take a much slower time until people are more comfortable with it as it is now a "niché" and it might two more generations until these changes happen or hopefully less.
Wait, you went through the trouble of learning a whole new keyboard layout, but decided to go with your second choice because you couldn't find a layout for your first choice and you would have had to manually create one on your own? That seems unusual..
To be honest, the jump from qwerty to any ergo-centric layout is much bigger than the differences between the common ergo layouts. I switched to dvorak because it's trivial to switch to the layout in most operating systems, not because dvorak is technically better than the other non-qwerty layouts.
Ya it doesn’t add up. Like all the research to choose the keyboard, all the research to choose the layout and choosing a keyboard that one of its main features is its ease of creating custom key bindings. It’s weird. Like maybe one could say since he’s not used to the ortholinearness he wouldn’t know how to set it up correctly at first, but still
Very helpful video! I have a joint condition that makes typing difficult and this video among others are certainly making me consider the switch to your setup if only I could afford the Moonlander haha
Stick with it! It took me 2 weeks to hit 60 wpm but it was easier than I first thought. I have another video that goes over some tips if you're interested. th-cam.com/video/o2ECe_xT4aE/w-d-xo.html
@danse en rouge funny enough, I have since commenting done just that. I built the keebio BFO-9000. I have reworked the layout multiple times and almost have it nailed down do what I want it to stay at semi permanantly.
one thing i would like too see given with these keyboards is one or two real spacebar keycaps, as an option. i think this would make this style easier for people to get used to.
Hey! Absolutely. You can check it out here. Full disclosure, I'm still tweaking it a bit, and I'm probably about to overhaul the Symbols layer to make it easier to code with. configure.ergodox-ez.com/moonlander/layouts/daem6/latest/0
Just a comment on the company. They have bad customer service. My wife wanted to surprise me with one of their keyboards for my birthday, but she was uncomfortable with the shipping. When she made a comment about how she was not comfortable with it she was belittled and insulted, and this wasn't from a random employee. The email was addressed from one of the owners. I ended up building my own. Very happy with my results, and I haven't even looked at their website again.
Read your comment on another video. I accept your wife experienced bad customer service, but by and large everyone thinks their product is amazing - I haven't read a bad review apart from yours, now twice. It's a shame, your experience, but it's sort of irrelevant here, as he's already bought and received his keyboard. Glad you're happy with your home-made keyboard, but I'm not sure what else you're looking at achieving here? I read your comment before purchasing mine - I guess I'm going to have to put up with the bad customer service, because it looks like the best split keyboard on the planet...
@@vanzippee Yeah I'm not buying that you actually think his comment was "advertising". And why comment that way when you are the one who is posting your review in multiple places? Defensive? Why not just address the very reasonable points Jake raised? Feel free to post the ostensibly rude messages you received - my experience with support today was not bad at all.
Norman is a great layout! I read the Norman layout site and personally found that the things he was optimizing for weren't quite as important to me, but for people interested in switching from QWERTY without too much of a learning curve they should look into Norman to see if it's for them.
@@stuarthahn I need to be “bi-lingual” of sorts and keep a respectable qwerty speed up since I have to use a shared pc at work. The finger retention and unchanged shortcuts were the most appealing, having basically the same centre columns as workman didn’t hurt either. Great content sir, hope to see more.
@@littlephoenix1115 You can switch between two layouts in software with one quick key combo on every major OS. Often ctrl-shift. Couldn't you set that up on the work pc?
@@SoundToxin I would if I could, but I don’t have admin rights to add Norman to the pc, stock windows is still just qwerty variants and Dvorak. At home I switch between Norman and Dvorak regularly, using Dvorak at work would be a hassle b/c shortcuts and having to switch it constantly.
I will never switch to a new layout: 1) When I become fluent with any new layout, I won't be able to use qwerty layout keyboards (look up people who have switched & type 50+ wpm). So I can only use my own keyboard and my own computer. Bad. 2) qwerty is not slow in and of itself (see th-cam.com/video/oOdfefV2R1I/w-d-xo.html). I used to think to get fast, I need to switch to something new. Some people type 200+ wpm with qwerty. That's enough. 3) Time required to invest in a new layout should be used for something else. Learning / even watching TV could be a better use of my time. If other people used workman, I would happily switch. That being said, I suck at using my ergodox and can't even type on it properly.... it's just sitting in the corner.
2:19 Yes technology has come a long way but people are fucking stupid. Look how untechnical even your average smartphone user is in todays world. How much they lack attention. You think anyone is smart enough or has enough attention power to study keyboard layout and actually try something ergonomic? As far as I see, ergonomic is weird work jargon that no body even cares about today! The whole world of typing speed, ergonomic and efficient keyboards and layouts are completly alien to the average person out there. Even those are techy like gamers!
Nobody should talk about keyboard layouts pros and cons from single English language perspective! For example I daily use 3 totally different languages where one of them is Russian with Cyrillic letters and other also have some non-English symbols. I don't even talk about how different is character combination frequencies. So when some enthusiastically talk about how Qwerty is bad, don't forget to mention that it is bad exactly from a single English language perspective. So, it could be that "worst and most inefficient" layout in the world, universally works pretty well in multi-lingual setups and in many, many countries wheres Colemak, Dvorak and others definitely could have some issues. No offense. But just this little tiny detail explains a lot of Qwerty design choices and why the major manufacturers R&D's uses it for manufacturing world-wide sold KBs. They are nor stupid.
@danse en rouge You already highlighted my point. My point was that saying "Qwerty is the worst layout" is a clear clickbait. Context matters. Your primary language matters. Etc. I personally use Colemak on a custom keyboard. But Qwerty is not any "worst" than Colemak. Yes, there is a lot finger traveling, but it is not a deal breaker. On top of that, most of the worlds fastest typists uses Qwerty. So. Newer say "Qwerty is worst layout"! :)
You know what is funny. These people go on and on about Qwerty being the least efficient keyboard and how it was designed to slow you down, yet the fastest typists in the world are 100% on Qwerty. No other keyboard layout comes close to these guys in pure typing speeds. At what point do we start screaming bullshit at all of these ridiculous videos?
That's just because they choose those layouts though. If everybody typed on another layout you could make the same argument. Which is why typing speed is a bad metric to evaluate a layout. Efficiency and speed are different things. The efficiency of a keyboard layout is evaluated based on several metrics like the ability to type rolls, reducing the number of turnarounds and reducing finger travel, etc. Speed isn't really a metric for efficiency because it's subjective. The bottom line is that you can type on whatever you want though man. If you don't like the videos, then don't watch them or comment on them and help their engagement lol
@@KenW418 I enjoy the videos, just question the logic. You call speed a subjective metric yet can provide no other metric that proves efficiency. At the end of the day we sit in front of a computer to interface with it. We use a keyboard because that is the only method we have found that consistently works. We don't sit down to see how slowly we want to perform our tasks, we'd like to get on with it. I do understand that we all type on Qwerty and that is why we're faster at it, however, the brain can change and I've watched guys that have spent years on particular layouts and never really prove they're better at anything. We have to rely on speed because everything else is opinion.
@@nizexlizzy I did provide other metrics for efficiency in my previous comment about reducing turn arounds, finger travel, rolls, etc. And to your other point, sure, we sit down in front of a computer to do our work, but your comfort doing that work should be important. The reduction of injuries is important. I feel like a lot of people get into ergonomics and alternative layouts because they have experienced discomfort at some point in their life and it reduces their symptoms, not because they are trying to be faster typists (maybe some do).
Colemak FTW!
Day 4: 43wpm and climbing
@@stuarthahn Glad to hear it, how's it going so far? I'm on my second day of Colemak-DH and I can type 16wpm blind.
dvorak cool
dunno if you guys cares but if you guys are stoned like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all of the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my brother lately :)
@Blake Brycen Yea, I have been using instaflixxer for years myself :)
You could also argue that the new standard keyboard design should be ortholinear and not staggered... Probably should be something like an ortholinear Colemak layout as standard
And even at a smaller scale, for example you could also argue that JavaScript is a ridiculous flawed language made up by some guy in a week that is full of blatant design mistakes and that we should switch it to one of many superior options, yet this also doesn't replace it
And of course Colemak itself and even its DH mod are already superceded by other better layouts based on more complete understanding of the principles, like the Nerps, Nerts and Hands down layouts. The basic theory behind Colemak and Colemak DH was incomplete and flawed
And those newer layouts will likely be superceded by better layouts later when the understanding of the basics expands further and we will have better tools to design better layouts, it will probably move towards having more individualized layouts based on use case and hand size/proportions and maybe even differences in brains because we seem to be approaching the point when one layout is super-suitable for some, yet sucks for others
qwerty isn't to slow down, but to keep distance between letters that are regularly typed together, since otherwise the mechanism inside there could jam with each others. Not sure what happened with er there, but I guess those things weren't mechanically close to one another.
true, and the fastest typist out there uses the "supposedly to slow you down" qwerty layout. It has not been proven in any way that the layout helps, it's all preference.
@@StrayZero it doesn't actually matter whether or not qwerty or colemak is faster, what is a fact is that qwerty is bad for your wrists over time, dvorak, colemak, colemak dh, workman, they all require less movement of wrists, and less homerow jumping making it less straining for touch typing
This is actually so great haha awesome work. I’ve been considering cole. Not quite there yet but This will serve as solidarity when I’m questioning why I’ve made such an awful decision with my moonlander
I switched to colmakDH as well when I built my own split ergo keyboard since I type a whole lot as a programmer. I wasn't particularly amazingly fast since I only had like 70wpm on standard English and like 45wpm when typing code. After spending some time with it my code typing went up a lot because I didn't have to move my hands a whole bunch to type symbols or numbers anymore.
I switched keyboard layouts too.
Went from 60wpm, to 10wpm to now 70wpm
I use a layout I call "CNAEY" where the most common letters are centered around the homerow and the main fingers.
So the layout I use is
,LSFPBWHU.
CNAEYGTIOM
;XQRVKDJZ/
I search on google and could find it
I've been using Dvorak for the last four years and bought a Moonlander a few days ago. I really recommend switching to a new layout, I think the advantages in the long therm worth the difficulties.
I actually did exactly the same thing as you, switched form QWERTY to Colemak at the same time as learning to use a split-keyboard (The Exgodox EZ). It took a few months of very painful slow typing but my typing speed caught back up and the strain on my fingers and wrists is way less.
Lol, I switched to Dvorak from QWERTY a few months before I got the Ergodox EZ. Nowadays, switching keyboards is easy in comparison to the months it took me to meet/beat my old 95WPM. I'm finally reaching speeds up to 110WPM, and the keyboard in combination with the new layout makes it much easier on my hands.
Good video!
This was a surprisingly good video, keep it up!
Doesn't the Moonlander use QMK? You should be able to manually change each key and just copy from a pic of the Workman layout.
Yeah, sure. But Colemak-DH is still a vastly superior layout. So there's that. ( Θώθ)
I'm on day 2 on Colemak and just found this video, loving it so far. Feel you on the wpm it's hard work 😂
Good luck! I'm up to about 40 wpm, 8 days in. It's still pretty hard to type but it is a lot more comfortable.
I suggest learning with mnemonics. I visited a course based on that and learned touch typing qwertz that way in 7h (soft muscle memory) as a teenager and definently will try to transfer that methodology to learn NEO2 one day.
@@haifutter4166 which course did you use?
@@NazraT1704 It was 11 years ago, so that specific course probably doesn't exist any more, and presumably not near you.
It was called "touch typing in 4h (+3h breaks) for teenagers, based on mnemonic teaching techniques". You will find similar courses in an adult education centre near you or online.
Basically it began with some meditation and then you memorized a funny story (that made use of all sensory channels and sub-modalities) and that connected the different fingers with the movements and the location of every single key. After 2-3 weeks I forgot most of it, but the soft muscle memory turned into persistent muscle memory by then.
I had multiple carpal tunneling surgeries in the past 7 years and it is basically because I program for long hours. I changed my layout, keyboard which slowed my work a lot and after a year with a Moonlander. My hands feel much better, I am typing as I was and even faster. It takes a lot of time and effort with the goal of a mind to help. Big companies don't really care, Microsoft doesn't control the keyboard market nor does anyone. However, the promotion of such things as of late has been very effective, also Microsoft has its own ergo keyboard and I knew one of their employees who uses it but switches to workman. The spread of these things take a much slower time until people are more comfortable with it as it is now a "niché" and it might two more generations until these changes happen or hopefully less.
Wait, you went through the trouble of learning a whole new keyboard layout, but decided to go with your second choice because you couldn't find a layout for your first choice and you would have had to manually create one on your own? That seems unusual..
To be honest, the jump from qwerty to any ergo-centric layout is much bigger than the differences between the common ergo layouts. I switched to dvorak because it's trivial to switch to the layout in most operating systems, not because dvorak is technically better than the other non-qwerty layouts.
Ya it doesn’t add up. Like all the research to choose the keyboard, all the research to choose the layout and choosing a keyboard that one of its main features is its ease of creating custom key bindings. It’s weird. Like maybe one could say since he’s not used to the ortholinearness he wouldn’t know how to set it up correctly at first, but still
Can you explain how I get colemak mh on there I’m using oryx
I'm going to do the exact same thing when I get my first split board. Ergonomics ftw!
I pursonally have switched to dvorak on the moonlander, stacted 3 wpm, after around 5 days, I'm at 27 average ^^
I switched over to Colemak DHm when I got my Dygma Raise. I'm sitting at 28 words a minute.
Very helpful video! I have a joint condition that makes typing difficult and this video among others are certainly making me consider the switch to your setup if only I could afford the Moonlander haha
I got my Moonlander today and I'm starting the same journey. Currently at 10 words per minute. This is going to be a long trek...
Stick with it! It took me 2 weeks to hit 60 wpm but it was easier than I first thought. I have another video that goes over some tips if you're interested. th-cam.com/video/o2ECe_xT4aE/w-d-xo.html
I am literally do this exact same thing before I even started watching this video. Great recap! Would love to see the progress
Learning Colemak DH(m?). Fell to 8 wpm. Shit is hard.
Anybody know how to use Colemak-dh on a work computer where you don't have administrative privileges?
@danse en rouge funny enough, I have since commenting done just that. I built the keebio BFO-9000. I have reworked the layout multiple times and almost have it nailed down do what I want it to stay at semi permanantly.
I just changed my keycaps after a couple of weeks learning. I'm still slow AF but it does feel pretty good!
one thing i would like too see given with these keyboards is one or two real spacebar keycaps, as an option. i think this would make this style easier for people to get used to.
I can make an AHK script for Halmak/Workman if you want.
10 Life Points for using the word “plummetation.”
I'm not very good at qwery. Wonder if Coleman would be worth the change pain? Don't know.
Can we see/download your oryx configuration?
Hey! Absolutely. You can check it out here. Full disclosure, I'm still tweaking it a bit, and I'm probably about to overhaul the Symbols layer to make it easier to code with.
configure.ergodox-ez.com/moonlander/layouts/daem6/latest/0
oh my god me too. 100->12 WPM baby.
what speed test do you use i wanna see how i compare to others
"I can no longer type". Funny.
fun review
Just a comment on the company. They have bad customer service. My wife wanted to surprise me with one of their keyboards for my birthday, but she was uncomfortable with the shipping. When she made a comment about how she was not comfortable with it she was belittled and insulted, and this wasn't from a random employee. The email was addressed from one of the owners.
I ended up building my own. Very happy with my results, and I haven't even looked at their website again.
Read your comment on another video. I accept your wife experienced bad customer service, but by and large everyone thinks their product is amazing - I haven't read a bad review apart from yours, now twice. It's a shame, your experience, but it's sort of irrelevant here, as he's already bought and received his keyboard. Glad you're happy with your home-made keyboard, but I'm not sure what else you're looking at achieving here? I read your comment before purchasing mine - I guess I'm going to have to put up with the bad customer service, because it looks like the best split keyboard on the planet...
@@JakeLiddell nice advertising. How much do you get paid for leaving comments like this?
@@vanzippee Yeah I'm not buying that you actually think his comment was "advertising". And why comment that way when you are the one who is posting your review in multiple places? Defensive? Why not just address the very reasonable points Jake raised?
Feel free to post the ostensibly rude messages you received - my experience with support today was not bad at all.
Could you clarify the “not comfortable with shipping” part of the problem? I’m not clear what the actual problem is.
If I want to learn colemak is there a web site to learn it?
typing club
Just ordered one. Can't imagine changing layouts because I'd forget QWERTY when I use other computers. My brain is not keyboard bilingual methinks.
Waiting on mine
should have tried the AI designed Halmak
Halmak does look pretty cool! I might try it out soon. Thanks for the recommendation, Mateo
Anyone else here using Norman layout?
Norman is a great layout! I read the Norman layout site and personally found that the things he was optimizing for weren't quite as important to me, but for people interested in switching from QWERTY without too much of a learning curve they should look into Norman to see if it's for them.
@@stuarthahn I need to be “bi-lingual” of sorts and keep a respectable qwerty speed up since I have to use a shared pc at work. The finger retention and unchanged shortcuts were the most appealing, having basically the same centre columns as workman didn’t hurt either. Great content sir, hope to see more.
@@littlephoenix1115 You can switch between two layouts in software with one quick key combo on every major OS. Often ctrl-shift. Couldn't you set that up on the work pc?
@@SoundToxin I would if I could, but I don’t have admin rights to add Norman to the pc, stock windows is still just qwerty variants and Dvorak. At home I switch between Norman and Dvorak regularly, using Dvorak at work would be a hassle b/c shortcuts and having to switch it constantly.
qwertyuiop indeed
This is just my story except I had the ergodox ez
you use colemak because you could find a layout for moonlander? why not just make your own..?
Now set your phone keyboard to colemak
And everyone should use metric
I will never switch to a new layout:
1) When I become fluent with any new layout, I won't be able to use qwerty layout keyboards (look up people who have switched & type 50+ wpm). So I can only use my own keyboard and my own computer. Bad.
2) qwerty is not slow in and of itself (see th-cam.com/video/oOdfefV2R1I/w-d-xo.html). I used to think to get fast, I need to switch to something new. Some people type 200+ wpm with qwerty. That's enough.
3) Time required to invest in a new layout should be used for something else. Learning / even watching TV could be a better use of my time.
If other people used workman, I would happily switch. That being said, I suck at using my ergodox and can't even type on it properly.... it's just sitting in the corner.
2:19 Yes technology has come a long way but people are fucking stupid. Look how untechnical even your average smartphone user is in todays world. How much they lack attention. You think anyone is smart enough or has enough attention power to study keyboard layout and actually try something ergonomic? As far as I see, ergonomic is weird work jargon that no body even cares about today! The whole world of typing speed, ergonomic and efficient keyboards and layouts are completly alien to the average person out there. Even those are techy like gamers!
I had carpal syndrome...
why didn't you learn workman instead
Nobody should talk about keyboard layouts pros and cons from single English language perspective!
For example I daily use 3 totally different languages where one of them is Russian with Cyrillic letters and other also have some non-English symbols. I don't even talk about how different is character combination frequencies.
So when some enthusiastically talk about how Qwerty is bad, don't forget to mention that it is bad exactly from a single English language perspective.
So, it could be that "worst and most inefficient" layout in the world, universally works pretty well in multi-lingual setups and in many, many countries wheres Colemak, Dvorak and others definitely could have some issues.
No offense. But just this little tiny detail explains a lot of Qwerty design choices and why the major manufacturers R&D's uses it for manufacturing world-wide sold KBs. They are nor stupid.
@danse en rouge You already highlighted my point. My point was that saying "Qwerty is the worst layout" is a clear clickbait. Context matters. Your primary language matters. Etc. I personally use Colemak on a custom keyboard. But Qwerty is not any "worst" than Colemak. Yes, there is a lot finger traveling, but it is not a deal breaker. On top of that, most of the worlds fastest typists uses Qwerty.
So. Newer say "Qwerty is worst layout"! :)
You know what is funny. These people go on and on about Qwerty being the least efficient keyboard and how it was designed to slow you down, yet the fastest typists in the world are 100% on Qwerty. No other keyboard layout comes close to these guys in pure typing speeds. At what point do we start screaming bullshit at all of these ridiculous videos?
That's just because they choose those layouts though. If everybody typed on another layout you could make the same argument. Which is why typing speed is a bad metric to evaluate a layout. Efficiency and speed are different things. The efficiency of a keyboard layout is evaluated based on several metrics like the ability to type rolls, reducing the number of turnarounds and reducing finger travel, etc. Speed isn't really a metric for efficiency because it's subjective.
The bottom line is that you can type on whatever you want though man. If you don't like the videos, then don't watch them or comment on them and help their engagement lol
@@KenW418 I enjoy the videos, just question the logic. You call speed a subjective metric yet can provide no other metric that proves efficiency. At the end of the day we sit in front of a computer to interface with it. We use a keyboard because that is the only method we have found that consistently works. We don't sit down to see how slowly we want to perform our tasks, we'd like to get on with it.
I do understand that we all type on Qwerty and that is why we're faster at it, however, the brain can change and I've watched guys that have spent years on particular layouts and never really prove they're better at anything. We have to rely on speed because everything else is opinion.
@@nizexlizzy I did provide other metrics for efficiency in my previous comment about reducing turn arounds, finger travel, rolls, etc. And to your other point, sure, we sit down in front of a computer to do our work, but your comfort doing that work should be important. The reduction of injuries is important. I feel like a lot of people get into ergonomics and alternative layouts because they have experienced discomfort at some point in their life and it reduces their symptoms, not because they are trying to be faster typists (maybe some do).
You somehow remind me of Dinesh from Silicon Valley
no thanks. build your own for cheaper and switch to halmak.