Man that stuff works great. I just used it a few minutes ago. It took less than a couple of minutes in a jar shaking and now the copper is sparkling again. Thanks George.
"DUNCAN IT IN 551".Mr.Duncan, this definitely follows the "KISS" rule.Even I can remember that without writing it down. Thanks George, keep on keeping on...✌
Short and sweet thanks George I've been using this mixture for a while now and it works great on copper turns a nice blue color so you that's it's working.
Used this stuff yesterday, works awesome. That said, I used it in an old crockpot I keep the shop for such, and the pieces of copper being cleaned also contained some silver soldered sections, and some brass fittings..........Both those cleaned up as well. Info: The last two metals mentioned I found to be more reactive in the mixture, and the copper oxide removed during the cleaning, deposited itself on the yellow brass, totally changing it's look!
Good info. George. It would be interesting for you to do a presentation on bacterial contamination and fermentation problems thereof. In an industrial production setting, bacteria problems gave us fits...that along with evaporation problems with stillage. Also, for those that use city water, is there an upper limit for chlorine residual? Or maybe doing some de-chlorination of make-up water.
If you don't have Citric acid just use a couple of ounces of lemon juice. Like the Real Lemon stuff. Don't know if it works as well because I haven't tried citric acid yet, but it works well with juice.
This doesn't take the place of a vinegar run, correct? For a pot still, this would just be for cleaning the surface and not running through the still. Am I correct?
Considering George is about to give the "millilitres" volume for it but can't remember what it is off the top of his head I'm guessing it's by volume. Not that it matters much either way since they work out to be pretty much the same thing.
Hello. With the 551 cleaning solution, it is not only here that the percentage (%) of the hydrogen peroxide content is constantly forgotten. Is it e.g. 3% / 12% / 30%? That makes a difference in the effect and also when buying! From 12% personal protective measures are necessary and at 30% this is no longer fun! That in many ways !! ;-) MD
Hi George, I have question for you unrelated to this video.Hope you don’t mind.I am making Breadfruit Vodka and I cook down the Breadfruit as one would do with potatoes to convert the starches into sugars. However Breadfruit ripen to a mush really fast in a day or two. My question is George..has the Starches in the Breadfruit naturally converted into sugars? I plan on doing a batch without cooking them down and see what happens. Got any Ideas? Best Regards, Bret
George, I have a Turbo500 with the copper coulomb. Do I need to remove the stainless steel media from inside before using 551? Being lazy, I’d like to be able to place the whole thing in the solution to soak.
Hi George, after I soak the copper column in the 551 mixture do I need to soak it in a bi-carb soda mixture to neutralise or is rinsing with warm soapy water enough? Cheers.
George, What's the purpose of using the Hydrogen peroxide vs just water and citrus acid. I have been using 1 lb of citrus acid to 5 gal of water and soaking inside of my boiler. So far no issue but I have only done this a few times to clean the inside. Am I dodging a bullet long term by only running water and C.A.?
Hi this is probably a Stupid question but I’m new to our craft if I have no citric acid will white vinegar work with the 551 mix or will it not work as well
You'll find that you don't need to fill the pot but can swab the mixture on the surfaces for a few minutes and that will do a pretty good job. If the pot is badly contaminated then filling it might be the solution. Get your calculator out and multiply all the ingredients by 20.
Thanking you for all the help you freely give to those of us whose knowledge is somewhat lacking.
Man that stuff works great. I just used it a few minutes ago. It took less than a couple of minutes in a jar shaking and now the copper is sparkling again. Thanks George.
"DUNCAN IT IN 551".Mr.Duncan, this definitely follows the "KISS" rule.Even I can remember that without writing it down. Thanks George, keep on keeping on...✌
I was just thinking of that cleaning solution and was going to search your videos for it. Then "BAM" there it is. Thanks George
THANK YOU ! I’m studying your video’s and learning about this hobby
Short and sweet thanks George I've been using this mixture for a while now and it works great on copper turns a nice blue color so you that's it's working.
Used this stuff yesterday, works awesome.
That said, I used it in an old crockpot I keep the shop for such, and the pieces of copper being cleaned also contained some silver soldered sections, and some brass fittings..........Both those cleaned up as well.
Info: The last two metals mentioned I found to be more reactive in the mixture, and the copper oxide removed during the cleaning, deposited itself on the yellow brass, totally changing it's look!
Thank you George for the 551 mixture works too well hahahah thank you happy distilling
Citric Acid is available at my walmart year round, used to be seasonal. Its over in the canning supplies if they have it.
Buy it by the Kg on Amazon and it's much less expensive.
Some folks don't live just around the corner from Wal-Mart. So till you can get citric acid juice works great. And it's actually cheaper here.
Thanks for the great tip George, your knowledge seems endless!
Salt, Vinegar, and water works great to and readily available.
Good info. George. It would be interesting for you to do a presentation on bacterial contamination and fermentation problems thereof. In an industrial production setting, bacteria problems gave us fits...that along with evaporation problems with stillage. Also, for those that use city water, is there an upper limit for chlorine residual? Or maybe doing some de-chlorination of make-up water.
You can de-chlorinate water easily by simply letting it sit for a day or two at room temperature.
Add 50mg of vitamin c per gallon works also
If you don't have Citric acid just use a couple of ounces of lemon juice. Like the Real Lemon stuff. Don't know if it works as well because I haven't tried citric acid yet, but it works well with juice.
Lemon juice (citric acid) will certainly work but is several time more expensive than plain citric acid.
george doing good..like the info .really like georges way
WOW! That really works great 👍🏻
You can buy Citric acid at most stores( Walmart, meijers) in a bottle by the canning or mason jar area too.
Thank you, George!
Man! You're missed, sir! Best wishes wherever you are!
Instead of citric acid , I use baking soda and get that good ole volcano effect we learned when we were kids. Works great !!!
Baking soda will raise the PH which is a way to adjust the PH from acidic to base. The opposite of citric acid.
Barley and Hops Brewing .......... after cleaning and running a steam rinse through the apparatus, wouldn’t that bring you back to neutral?
We were talking about “ neutralizing the equipment in order to be sanitary as well as removing possible off flavor influence.......... correct ?
@@robertbeliveau1692 Actually you want the acid to help clean the residue from the copper.
This doesn't take the place of a vinegar run, correct? For a pot still, this would just be for cleaning the surface and not running through the still. Am I correct?
Great info,thx.
Good video . Any ideas as to a diy conditioner/ antifoam ?? Thankyou
I have heard that a ½ tbls of butter for a 20 litre run does the trick. I have not tried it myself though.
What about running vinegar through your pot and worm?
Citric Acid 1 ounce? By volume, or by weight???
Curious about this also
Considering George is about to give the "millilitres" volume for it but can't remember what it is off the top of his head I'm guessing it's by volume. Not that it matters much either way since they work out to be pretty much the same thing.
Thank you
Maybe off topic but does anyone think the 551 solution would work of a swimming pool ionizer
hi what's happening with the genio 50ltr manual run as I'm interested in one but hoping to see how well it works
What are we looking for 551 to do? Make it shining? Clean all the gunk out or off?
What about a classic StarSan and water mixture? Will that work?
I soak my copper chiller in a Starsan solution to clean it before use when brewing beer. Comes out nice and shiny.
Baking soda and vinegar is what I use .
Thanks again.... Usin it...
Hello.
With the 551 cleaning solution, it is not only here that the percentage (%) of the hydrogen peroxide content is constantly forgotten.
Is it e.g. 3% / 12% / 30%?
That makes a difference in the effect and also when buying!
From 12% personal protective measures are necessary and at 30% this is no longer fun! That in many ways !! ;-)
MD
Can this mixture be kept and reused ?
Hi George,
I have question for you unrelated to this video.Hope you don’t mind.I am making Breadfruit Vodka and I cook down the Breadfruit as one would do with potatoes to convert the starches into sugars. However Breadfruit ripen to a mush really fast in a day or two. My question is George..has the Starches in the Breadfruit naturally converted into sugars? I plan on doing a batch without cooking them down and see what happens. Got any Ideas?
Best Regards,
Bret
Bret Tuleja how did you go with the breadfruit
George, I have a Turbo500 with the copper coulomb.
Do I need to remove the stainless steel media from inside before using 551?
Being lazy, I’d like to be able to place the whole thing in the solution to soak.
Won't hurt the stainless. I use stainless packing in my copper column and just fill the whole column with 551.
Hi George, after I soak the copper column in the 551 mixture do I need to soak it in a bi-carb soda mixture to neutralise or is rinsing with warm soapy water enough? Cheers.
Just rinse it with warm soapy water
George,
What's the purpose of using the Hydrogen peroxide vs just water and citrus acid.
I have been using 1 lb of citrus acid to 5 gal of water and soaking inside of my boiler.
So far no issue but I have only done this a few times to clean the inside. Am I dodging a bullet long term by only running water and C.A.?
It is a catalyst.
Hi this is probably a Stupid question but I’m new to our craft if I have no citric acid will white vinegar work with the 551 mix or will it not work as well
Will concentrated lemon juice work in the place of Citric Acid Powder.
@Paul That what I was thinking and it easy to get and cheep
The 1 oz of citric acid, is that by weight? Or volume?
Weight.
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Do you have any solution for the inside ,thumper an worm that hasn't been used in about 5 yrs
Suggest you use the same solution.
Did you even watch the video to the end 🤦🏻♂️
Hi George, how often does this 551 cleaner need to be renewed, what signs do I need to look for?
How would u figure that up for a 20 gallon pot?
You'll find that you don't need to fill the pot but can swab the mixture on the surfaces for a few minutes and that will do a pretty good job. If the pot is badly contaminated then filling it might be the solution. Get your calculator out and multiply all the ingredients by 20.
Will it harm stainless?
No
1 oz citric acid - make it 30 g in powdered form ;)
Thanks! Saved me doing the conversion.
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What about ss
Works just as well
1 ounce = 30 ML
Have a Hobby Lobby by you, pick up your citric acid 6$ for 16 oz bag.