Recycled trap beat kits with wack as producers, whatever happen to real producers like , timbaland, organized noize, manny fresh, swizz beats , jermaine dupri , dj Paul and juicy beats ?
@@tylerwilson6629 I think technically all off the top is freestyling but not all freestyle is off the top. As freestyle is supposed to be "free of style" and can be off the top, memorised or even written down. Though for whatever reason it's frowned upon if your freestyle isn't off the top, which in most cases it's memorised. It should be about the words and the sound, not whether or not they came up with it on the spot.
I'm hoping for a change where the sound is no longer lazy, overproduced or just chaotically random just to sound different. Different doesn't automatically equate to good.
I like seeing popular artists experiment with their music, whether it be Kanye making a straight industrial hip hop albums, Yachty making a psych rock album, or Mac and Tyler making neo soul. It’s fun to watch artists step out of their comfort zone and give us an album that *they* wanted to make.
im glad im not the only one that noticed it, hiphop now isnt just turning on a beat and rapping anymore, every artist needs to offer his own creative experience and vision, along without something groundbreaking every album they drop if they wanna stay relevant, we got carti with wlr, yachty with lets start here, denzel with melt my eyez, travis with utopia, etc
That’s what it’s always been... all the artists you named are trash too, even with all the new standards we have now. Utopia especially was just a knock off of rodeo and you niggas ate it all up. But hey that’s the trick isn’t it.. as long as the sheep can eat, the grass will always taste good
@@juliansith7563 denzel is a kinda mainstream metal trap artist which we dont see often, also his last album was a huge step outside his comfort zone into classical rap with amazing lyricism and it the same time some tracks felt fun and lightweight, it was a breath of fresh air for the "mainstream"
I just think that since the soundcloud era became so big and revolutional, changing hiphops sound and look, we are experiencing the comedown now. This comedown could either be the end or revival of hiphop. Artists are desperately trying to do new things now, Uzi and Playboy Carti for example.
@@mitchross4002 nahh uzi stretching.did all that for sake of being “different “ That’s why he’s was out here with these “Rock” tracks, that BMTH feature was so out of place 🤮 I mess with bands but this wasn’t it.
Man I miss hip hop albums that were like the story of their artist. College Drop Out, Wolf, XXX, and Good Kid Maad City. They felt like movies about the artist, their upbringing, beliefs and influences. The city the came from and they would have their friends feature on the album. Those felt like stories I could relate too and live along side. Travis Scott Rodeo is another one.
I'm actually loving the turn Hip Hop is going into. Rappers are starting to challenge the status quo and becoming more in tune with not only what's going on but how they feel/think. This is wonderful for the culture, we need this.
Interesting take. I’m excited to see what people come up with when they’re actually forced to be more creative in order to sell well. I’m tired of the same manufactured sh*t. I hope this forces artists to actually create storylines/ music with something actually to say. Besides bragging about how rich they are. I think this fatigue we are experience also goes hand in hand with the looming recession and the just the overall “tiredness” of celebrities & flex culture. People right now want something real. Something substantial and relatable & I can’t wait to see how that will reflex in people’s music.
Unfortunately i dont agree, i have felt the same way most of my life but unless it is still building on a subconscious level, i can tell you most people arent interested in listening to something deeper. They might THINK they do but when you get used to eating only fast food, home cooked food tastes gross at first. Ive been trying to blend listenability w substance myself, if you got time i got some album singles coming out right now 😁
musical creativity doesn't just come from lyricism and songwriting. it comes from the music and the way it sounds too. And what's the issue with flexing?
@drpea5189 Excessive flexing esp in the mainstream is just lazy bragging, more than half the time its lying, and its boring to only ever brag about material things, which most people do. Also kind of reinforces the whole $ = your worth. Dont get me wrong i like some braggadocio but sometimes shit gets old
While it is clear that you started listening to rap early 2000's, and based on your knowledge your article is done well, experimentation in Hip Hop was explored thoroughly in the 90's. Busta Rhymes' clothes, Missy's videos, Andre 3000's style, The Native Tongues, The Wu Tang Clan's group concept, Hype Williams' movie BELLY, Jay Z's Hit Hard Knock Life, these are all instances where artist's gambled on themselves in the name of creativity.
i honestly think it's crazy how impatient carti fans are. they've only been waiting 3 years for a new album yet kendrick and travis fans had to wait 5 years. frank ocean fans have been waiting for over 7 by now and we don't even have anything confirmed
its because carti's music is addicting asf, you need more and more and more while with frank ocean and kendrick, even though they are amazing this doesnt apply so much because they focus more on the project having a structure and in completely different aspects of the music, while carti just focuses on making everything different everytime he drops and using simplistic, catchy with recognizable unheard beats. Personally i can listen to stop breathing like 100 times in a day but if i listen to a kendrick song like count me out i'll get bored after 1-2 listens, not because its bad, but because its just not the type of music you want to blust at the speakers and sing along
It’s because unlike Kendrick and Frank, Carti constantly lies about when he drops and teases shit that he never drops. His team does exactly that too, teasing music just to say “nah that’s never coming out” so why show it🤷🏾♂️
@@amazingjay3957 that could be true but frank also teases shit here and there and carti's music is completely different and way more addicting and easy to memorize and sing with, way more catchy and intiguing so people want more and more
I’m just happy we’re slowly moving back to a space where copying others or playing it safe is seen as wack if there’s one thing that was cool about the 90s in hip hop is that every artist did have their own sound and it didn’t sound like the same or at least extremely similar I wasn’t born during that time but looking back you kinda had to look hard to find people that are like just copying others
Ugm , no one had their own sound back then , quite the opposite actually , the sound was boring and the same except for a few artists , what mattered was the originality in the style of the rhymes and delivery
If you want sum different check out my shit cousin ✅️✅️✅️ im getting my shit together and will be finishing an album within a few months, and i got at least 5 moe after 😁
I mean as far as the underground back then and now that Allie's but the industry has always been a copy cat industry . Those that stood out , well you know...stood out
i think the same thing is happening in multiple creative mediums. just like rap, movies aren’t dying, people will only go to the box office for something that is interesting and creative as opposed to the bland, formulaic stuff that has taken over since the early 2010s.
I believe Hip Hop was once simple and straightforward as a genre in itself. In today’s Era of “Hip Hop” they’re are sub branches. Like How Tyler fused hip hop and Neo Soul into one. That experiment was a success and new ones will continue to be made by current and upcoming artists. Hip Hop will keep complexing as the years go on. I just hope it goes into the right direction.
But what is the right direction? What is even considered right? Cuz ur opinion might differ from other ppl. There is no right or wrong direction it could lead.
Recycled trap beat kits with wack as producers, whatever happen to real producers like , timbaland, organized noize, manny fresh, swizz beats , jermaine dupri , dj Paul and juicy beats ?
Its just going through a transition, if yall remember 2005ish-2010ish it was that terrible phase of "snap/swag" music took over they said it was dead... then Tyler, Kendrick, cole, asap, joey bada$$, big krit, prime drake, big sean, wale, cheif keef hit and revitalized it again. I feel another Renaissance could happen or tik tok will ruin it but ogs need to step in
Bro this is why I fw you bro.... You have the exact same feelings I've been feeling for a long time now... Everyone wants to make songs with no substance and try to make shii for a TikTok hit and don't evolve 🤦🏿♂️ this is why I make the type of beats that I make so we can get real music back
Hiphop is lost and confused right now. It’s in a R&B, Rock, and Pop transition. Rock went through the same thing before it died out. We experiencing the last days of Hiphop before it goes full blown POP!
Recycled trap beat kits with wack as producers, whatever happen to real producers like , timbaland, organized noize, manny fresh, swizz beats , jermaine dupri , dj Paul and juicy beats ?
This is amazing. I've been seeing many pessimistic reviews in music today. And this really made me have better expectations for the future. Cause what you said just make sense
I love and agree with the point of this video however gotta call out a huge gap in the artists that are being credited here. To suggest the modern experimentation in Hip Hop is being led by A$AP Rocky, Tyler, Travis Scott and Kanye (all mainstream acts) is a huge disservice to the armies of underground and indie artists who arent Hip Hop media darling who have been pushing the vanguard of these sounds before the established acts. EG, Kanye did not invent experimental rap with Yeezus, he was coming late to the party of acts like Dalek, Death Grips, Saul Williams who were already adding experimental and industrial soundscapes to rap. Lofi soundscapes were being used by tons of artists before ASAP and Tyler from SpaceGhost to MFDoom, and i'd give a shoutout too to Roc Marciano and KA for the drum less sound the started. Don't forget the underground is always at the cutting edge of these developments.
I agree w what you're saying, idk how he managed to talk about the most mainstream of experimental music, how tf did they manage to make a video on experimental music w/o artists that make it being talked about, smh.
Underground talents like, That Mexican OT, BKtharuler, Veeze, Gensowise, & many others, will be among the next wave of talent that comes out Carti Uzi & Drake will carry the game for the next 3-5 years until the torch is passed
Really Great Content! Glrateful I stayed true to myself & continued to create stuff that actully means something to me other than whats trending or popular.
Recycled trap beat kits with wack as producers, whatever happen to real producers like , timbaland, organized noize, manny fresh, swizz beats , jermaine dupri , dj Paul and juicy beats ? May as well bring in AI or Hologram rappers..
Tbh, Busdriver was my first renaissance hip hop (mostly weird) artist that I started listening too, Any who, I totally agree its about time hip hop made some changes. #50yearsofhiphop
I do find this video great but like others have mentioned your giving a lot of the credit for experimentation in hip-hop to mainstream artists like Kanye, Tyler, and Travis when they just brought experimentation to the mainstream. Artist like Death Grips, JPEGmafia, Aesop Rock, Injury Reserve, and Billy woods are better pioneers for the experimental hip-hop and post hip-hop
@@drpea5189wrong, I can’t walk up to someone on a random day and ask if they like By The Time I Get To Phoenix by Injury Reserve. Or if they’re checked out that new billy woods project, because they’re underground.
The second blow to hip-hop was the saturation of the country bumpkins from the south that turned hip-hop into Vaudeville. Instead of it being taken as a serious art form. We allowed people who had no real talent enter into this genre and they have completely destroyed it
the day hip hop artists will all flipping a bird to the music industry,, and all musicians in general , maybe there will be a real new era. The power of the DIY mindset with the present technology, is one of the only game changer possible. Travis Scott, Tyler and Kanye are glitches in the matrix of maintream rap music, this freedom should be the norm not the exception.
Kanye made it so mainstream to the point hiphop just simply become the music everyone can like but the next generation only settle for "making hiphop music that everyone can like" u know what i mean we need new rappers who will gatekeep hiphop in a good way that will say to the world yall can enjoy this genre but yall cant easily copy or steal or enter the game
I’m a huge old school hip hop fan and I want to hear music similar to that style instead of trap and mumble rap. It’s just my opinion. I’m not trying to sh*t on anyone who likes the state of modern hip hop. There are artists I respect in today’s age but that’s just where I stand
remember when rappers all sounded different? biting was against the rules then. i want a 2025 version of digital underground, something that's fun, creative, conscious, good lyrics, but also arcane.
At 34 I've always been accepting of change since I was young and when trippie dropped miss the rage and Mario Judah dropped his version of it I had both on repeat and then we have artists like Rico nasty and city morgue kinda gives me that nostalgia feeling of limp Bizkit, Korn.
I disagree that Utopia was an “experimental” album. Not many tracks on it jumped out at me that way. If anything, Astroworld was much more experimental with the diverse production and range of instrumentals it had on offer, with almost every track having its unique identity while Utopia just kind of comes across as one note. I highkey think people are abusing the term “experimental” when it comes to rap lol
My favorite artists are the ones willing to take risk and push the envelope of whats accepted despite possible backlash. In this current era, I feel like Carti & Uzi are the leaders of this change 🎸(not the only). I'm always excited to see what they do next.
@@davidawonaike1188did you not listen to pink tape? He took 'risks' for sure... shame all those risks sounded trash. He works best when he sticks to his lane
Salute to Master P. He helped and hurt hip-hop on some levels. The main marketing aspect...all them damn double discs...and how many albums in a school year. 8th grade, I was irritated. It gotta be a limit! He put on for indie and mixtapes, but also them cheezy ass covers and oversaturated mixtape formula. Between 7th and 8th grade, at least 20 students lost a double disc of that no limit ish on the bus 😂.
damn this was such a good video. when u pointed out honestly, nevermind by drake it made me re-listen to the album and actually appreciate it lol. subbed
Them dying accounts for the massive gap in time hip-hop has at this point. When Tupac and Biggie died, Puff Daddy, Jay-Z and DMX were right behind to fill the gap after years of struggle and standing on the sidelines. We didn't even have that because these cats died young and their potential replacements were too young and commercial to fill the void. If XXXtentacion and Lil Peep were still alive, this would be time for their imperial phase, alongside Pop Smoke. This is like if Tupac and Biggie both died before the mid nineties when they became the biggest things in pop culture, not just hip-hop. There is no way Jay-Z or DMX would be ready to step up and replace them at that time. This gap period means we need older guys like Drake who actually need some more rest for creativity to step up and still deliver because the younger generation is not ready yet. Those were are dead. Smh. This is the time Drake should have been trying to enter Hollywood (mid nineties LL style) and he's STILL rapping because no one can replace him, yet. This ish is depressing, not gonna lie...
I love the honesty behind this video. No one ever gives carti and uzi their credit. its not "rage" music but they blended hip hop and punk rock music. Perfect combo. Amazing video shedding light on the hip hop renaissance we are in, its misunderstood but appreciated by thousands
Not anymore maybe like 5 years ago but the new album sounded like a chatgpt result for ‘really REALLY ironic internet experimental rap album’ his persona may have gotten too cringe for him to ever actually make a big impact
Yes! I'm all for change.....maybe this time around you could call it something else!! Let's just give it back to the ones who celebrate the Hip-Hop culture,the ones who recognize the 4 elements,and hold them in high regards. The way it's being handled now is a shit show and I blame the INDUSTRY for this!
@@Skooby . Him bringing up Thug would've meant referencing his jail time. Not everyone likes dwelling on such matters. I understand him skipping Thugger in that context.
It's easy to Hop on a popular artist's wave. They get support no matter what they put out. When we start seeing no name artists come up then we can call it a revolution.
The problem with hip hop now is that all rappers are about thier gimmick now. It’s not about what your saying or how that effects the listener, but about how they dress act and look. Hip has has become too materialistic. There’s no realness, love r soul in hip-hop anymore. Those problems compounded by rappers mumbling and singing un-intelligible raps has lead to all artists sounding the same and not having much impact on the world.
Thank God! Now we can get back to how it use to be!🙏🏿 Hold tight the runaways! Ampichino, Joe blow, mobfigaz. M.I.P the JackArtist and M.I.P Street Knowledge 🙏🏿
It’s time not just to change the sound but the whole spectrum of morality and clarify that alcohol parties drugs is evil and trash even lots of music sounds should die too
I think it's in a 20yr cycle where it'll enter something equivalent to the bling/ ringtone rap era (arguably the worst era) where the quality dips down for a bit and goes into hiding for a few years. I think in 3-4 after rock and country go wild it will comeback stronger than ever.
Nobody actually liked that Kendrick Lamar big stepper's album. It was just the biggest tour because of the pandemic. All these so-called creative artists are really just sad, uninspired Satan's that need to just go somewhere. The devil is the most uncreative entity in the world. And they thrive off his methods. That's why the industry is so dull and stupid right now. Nobody's even trying to make good music anymore. They're just trying to click bait and ride other people's waves. Kendrick Lamar and his little cousin was one of the biggest disappointments ever
rave beats, new jazz, rock rap, and all these other sub genres are changing hip hop/rap. artists like kenny mason, lunchbox, gab3, yeat, and others are changing the game with their music.
yeat is kinda falling off now ngl. also the others arent rlly "Changing the game". just watch bro the rage/new jazz shit is gonna die out in the next 2-5 years cuz of how repetitive it is
Good job on the video, only person you missed was XXXTENTACION. I think his creativity changed the game a lot . Pop smoke did a lot in his short time as well. Not as much as xxx but definitely noticeable.
AS A 25 YEAR OLD FROM THE BIRTH PLACE OF HIP-HOP 🗽 THIS MAKES ME VERY HAPPY ✅ IM SO SICK OF THE FAST FOOD RAP 👎🏾 GLAD ARTISTS ARE FINNALY CREATING ART AGAIN 🔥
This is clearly just an American hip hop trends... Globally its different af... its also odd how there was no mention of hip hop overseas & the importance of hip hop all over the world... I mean 50 cent is enough evidence. Dudes packing arenas rn all over the world rn!
He's still relevant because the younger guys who could have replaced him are dead now. Smh. This would have been the commercial peak of XXXtentacion and Pop Smoke if they were still alive.
@@manniking233 agreed with your sentiment of x and pop being huge if they were alive (I loved them as artists), but that doesn’t mean that Drake would be IRRELEVANT if that was the case
@@manniking233let’s keep it a stack. Drake ain’t been replaced by x. Drake is on that A list level. Those guys would have been big but more on a at best Charlie puth or lil baby level where people will enjoy them but they also don’t appeal to people’s parents etc
personally i believe that tyler, kanye and carti are the most revolutionary hip hop artists ever. These 3 just created something completely new in the hip hop world every single time they dropped. Knaye is just kanye, not many things to say, tyler especcially after flower boy dropped back to back 3 of the greatest rap albums after 2010 up until today, igor might even be in the top 3, carti released self titled which was amazing, die lit which created a whole sub genre of rap and was influential asf and then wlr which there are no words to say and in 10 year we'll be looking back to these concerts and saying carti was kanye level with his creativity and art, even though it sounds crazy now
@@kkrkkr5093 bro, kanye himself loves these too, just because you are stuck to 2010 doesnt mean there are no longer revolutionary and amazing artists like kanye. Yes kanye is better than both but lets see tyler and carti in the next 10-15 years.
I wonder what would happen if 90s style returned to hip hop those were my favorite years from Naughty by nature Ice T and NWA to Big and Pac and wu tang and roots to Nas and Jay z Busta rhymes bone thugs to DMX to Eminem and TI and more, that's the Era I come from I would like to see what would happen if that style came back even if the artist aren't as talented as the classics at least they could be on a similar page with a similar style kind of bring back the memories of back then and who knows where hip hop would advance to after that
Underground could bring hip hop back to life,so much personality,styles and amazing production to listen hours on end to,mainstream is biting off the underground sound too much that radio music will soon be looked at as nothing but audio programming,Underground 4L
Hip hop turned satanic, demonic, gay, unhinged, unruly, unholy, unlyrical, barless, overall less talented. Hip hop is all about poetry , MCing, flow, it was for the people. Hip hop use to welcome the best of the best now it's full of trolls. They will let anyone pic up a mic now. Our standards as a people use to be high. Now we just get high. etc. Change is not always better. A lot of the time things are great as is. We have allowed "them" to infiltrate our art and take the soul from it. I miss real Rap. Some of us are trying to bring it back to rap. It's like Trolls 2 "I'm here to take your strong bro" now they are killing our music and putting everything in under rock. Rappers look like them now. Like rock and roll artest AFTER IT WAS STOLLEN.
Hip Hop can never die because it’s not a genre. It’s just all the genres combined. It’s actually the final genre as all the other ones died because they fall into hip hop at this point. This means I can make a rock album and call it hip hop then drop classical music and just put lyrics over it and call it hip hop. Hip Hop is the final genre.
The mainstream is dying. The underground has never been stronger : Danny, JPEG, Billy, Aesop
Yb the only one holding it down him rod wave , lil poppa n quando n even von even know he dead
Did you just write Aesop rock in 2023 it’s not 2010 Nigga what the fuck
Those people irrelevant. The opium side running underground rn
Facts💯and I'm here for it
they are not underground
If the public knew the difference between pop rappers, rappers, & Hiphop artists, we wouldn't have to worry about Hiphop at all
I feel this way about freestyling vs off the top lol
Wats the difference?
Recycled trap beat kits with wack as producers, whatever happen to real producers like , timbaland, organized noize, manny fresh, swizz beats , jermaine dupri , dj Paul and juicy beats ?
@@tylerwilson6629 I think technically all off the top is freestyling but not all freestyle is off the top. As freestyle is supposed to be "free of style" and can be off the top, memorised or even written down. Though for whatever reason it's frowned upon if your freestyle isn't off the top, which in most cases it's memorised. It should be about the words and the sound, not whether or not they came up with it on the spot.
@@DenofLeosDon't forget Premier.
I'm hoping for a change in hip hop, hopefully into a new consciousness era
I think we are getting there!
fuck no 💀
I think a lot of people are finding conscious rap to be more intriguing lately.
I'm hoping for a change where the sound is no longer lazy, overproduced or just chaotically random just to sound different. Different doesn't automatically equate to good.
@@neonthunder3261 not at all
I like seeing popular artists experiment with their music, whether it be Kanye making a straight industrial hip hop albums, Yachty making a psych rock album, or Mac and Tyler making neo soul. It’s fun to watch artists step out of their comfort zone and give us an album that *they* wanted to make.
Yes! Tyler really does push the envelope but I think Travis does that as well
@@jahleillewis1743 how does travis?
@@IolZ555what do you mean he changed trap forever and made it phsycadelic and experimental
Absolutely! I just love seeing people taking bits and pieces from here and there and making something new and unique
@@gkay8889I mean as psychedelic as the soundcapes of the album was it's still basically just generic trap with tajín figuratively speaking
im glad im not the only one that noticed it, hiphop now isnt just turning on a beat and rapping anymore, every artist needs to offer his own creative experience and vision, along without something groundbreaking every album they drop if they wanna stay relevant, we got carti with wlr, yachty with lets start here, denzel with melt my eyez, travis with utopia, etc
That’s what it’s always been... all the artists you named are trash too, even with all the new standards we have now. Utopia especially was just a knock off of rodeo and you niggas ate it all up. But hey that’s the trick isn’t it.. as long as the sheep can eat, the grass will always taste good
Bro tried to sneak Denzel in there 😂
@@juliansith7563Denzel is good
@@juliansith7563 denzel is a kinda mainstream metal trap artist which we dont see often, also his last album was a huge step outside his comfort zone into classical rap with amazing lyricism and it the same time some tracks felt fun and lightweight, it was a breath of fresh air for the "mainstream"
teezo album finna be crazy
I just think that since the soundcloud era became so big and revolutional, changing hiphops sound and look, we are experiencing the comedown now. This comedown could either be the end or revival of hiphop. Artists are desperately trying to do new things now, Uzi and Playboy Carti for example.
I wouldn't call it desperate I'd just call it creative
😂 desperate. Them mf blew up bigger than ever before. The word you looking for is adapting
@@mitchross4002 nahh uzi stretching.did all that for sake of being “different “ That’s why he’s was out here with these “Rock” tracks, that BMTH feature was so out of place 🤮 I mess with bands but this wasn’t it.
@@SleepyJ98 naw that bmth song goes crazy
@@dankbabayyyy fr my two personalities combined in that song 🔥🎸
Man I miss hip hop albums that were like the story of their artist. College Drop Out, Wolf, XXX, and Good Kid Maad City. They felt like movies about the artist, their upbringing, beliefs and influences. The city the came from and they would have their friends feature on the album. Those felt like stories I could relate too and live along side. Travis Scott Rodeo is another one.
You don’t miss it … your just not looking for it
I'm actually loving the turn Hip Hop is going into. Rappers are starting to challenge the status quo and becoming more in tune with not only what's going on but how they feel/think. This is wonderful for the culture, we need this.
Interesting take. I’m excited to see what people come up with when they’re actually forced to be more creative in order to sell well. I’m tired of the same manufactured sh*t. I hope this forces artists to actually create storylines/ music with something actually to say. Besides bragging about how rich they are. I think this fatigue we are experience also goes hand in hand with the looming recession and the just the overall “tiredness” of celebrities & flex culture. People right now want something real. Something substantial and relatable & I can’t wait to see how that will reflex in people’s music.
Na ppl just too sensitive now
@@marcusjug21true
Unfortunately i dont agree, i have felt the same way most of my life but unless it is still building on a subconscious level, i can tell you most people arent interested in listening to something deeper. They might THINK they do but when you get used to eating only fast food, home cooked food tastes gross at first.
Ive been trying to blend listenability w substance myself, if you got time i got some album singles coming out right now 😁
musical creativity doesn't just come from lyricism and songwriting. it comes from the music and the way it sounds too. And what's the issue with flexing?
@drpea5189 Excessive flexing esp in the mainstream is just lazy bragging, more than half the time its lying, and its boring to only ever brag about material things, which most people do. Also kind of reinforces the whole $ = your worth. Dont get me wrong i like some braggadocio but sometimes shit gets old
The golden age of the underground is about to pop off.
YES and I’m all in for that
hiphop will never die when nas is still releasing music
Crazy how he’s still great and he’s almost frigging 50
@@IolZ555 nas the reason people can say age dont matter and prove it talent wise😭
@@BrainRot227 facts
Got damn right!!!! Nas just gets better!!!
@@suavoman90Exactly!!! And he’s doing PURE HIP HOP. No “ experimental” trash. Just good ole HIP HOP
I’m glad to see someone giving rocky his flowers for testing and album that aged so well over the years
It aged well
While it is clear that you started listening to rap early 2000's, and based on your knowledge your article is done well, experimentation in Hip Hop was explored thoroughly in the 90's.
Busta Rhymes' clothes, Missy's videos, Andre 3000's style, The Native Tongues, The Wu Tang Clan's group concept, Hype Williams' movie BELLY, Jay Z's Hit Hard Knock Life, these are all instances where artist's gambled on themselves in the name of creativity.
i honestly think it's crazy how impatient carti fans are. they've only been waiting 3 years for a new album yet kendrick and travis fans had to wait 5 years. frank ocean fans have been waiting for over 7 by now and we don't even have anything confirmed
I think it was because they had began being used to those faster album drops with only a year in between Self Titled and Die Lit.
its because carti's music is addicting asf, you need more and more and more while with frank ocean and kendrick, even though they are amazing this doesnt apply so much because they focus more on the project having a structure and in completely different aspects of the music, while carti just focuses on making everything different everytime he drops and using simplistic, catchy with recognizable unheard beats. Personally i can listen to stop breathing like 100 times in a day but if i listen to a kendrick song like count me out i'll get bored after 1-2 listens, not because its bad, but because its just not the type of music you want to blust at the speakers and sing along
I think its cause carti teased his new album sm and we never got it
It’s because unlike Kendrick and Frank, Carti constantly lies about when he drops and teases shit that he never drops. His team does exactly that too, teasing music just to say “nah that’s never coming out” so why show it🤷🏾♂️
@@amazingjay3957 that could be true but frank also teases shit here and there and carti's music is completely different and way more addicting and easy to memorize and sing with, way more catchy and intiguing so people want more and more
The way you make these statements with this much confidence is so wild.
This guy is delusional lmfaooo
Elaborate. He backs up all of his points with evidence and if you haven't noticed this movement in hip-hop then you're delusional.
@@rockypikmin4493 ….you’re gonna make me rewatch this. This I commented two weeks ago you dork lol. When I’m free I got you. For the culture.
I’m just happy we’re slowly moving back to a space where copying others or playing it safe is seen as wack if there’s one thing that was cool about the 90s in hip hop is that every artist did have their own sound and it didn’t sound like the same or at least extremely similar I wasn’t born during that time but looking back you kinda had to look hard to find people that are like just copying others
Early 00’s too
Ugm , no one had their own sound back then , quite the opposite actually , the sound was boring and the same except for a few artists , what mattered was the originality in the style of the rhymes and delivery
If you want sum different check out my shit cousin ✅️✅️✅️ im getting my shit together and will be finishing an album within a few months, and i got at least 5 moe after 😁
I mean as far as the underground back then and now that Allie's but the industry has always been a copy cat industry . Those that stood out , well you know...stood out
@@gkay8889. Are we talking the Puff Daddy bling era or the early 90s? Just so we're clear...
The Internet has ruined real music, made it harder for real artists to make it
i think the same thing is happening in multiple creative mediums. just like rap, movies aren’t dying, people will only go to the box office for something that is interesting and creative as opposed to the bland, formulaic stuff that has taken over since the early 2010s.
Always gonna be a place for hip hop it will never die
it's just gotta evolve.
It’s shit
I believe Hip Hop was once simple and straightforward as a genre in itself. In today’s Era of “Hip Hop” they’re are sub branches. Like How Tyler fused hip hop and Neo Soul into one. That experiment was a success and new ones will continue to be made by current and upcoming artists. Hip Hop will keep complexing as the years go on. I just hope it goes into the right direction.
But what is the right direction? What is even considered right? Cuz ur opinion might differ from other ppl. There is no right or wrong direction it could lead.
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@@gamedevyoutube3.030 yo moms life is corny
Recycled trap beat kits with wack as producers, whatever happen to real producers like , timbaland, organized noize, manny fresh, swizz beats , jermaine dupri , dj Paul and juicy beats ?
@@DenofLeos peep my beats, I'm still learning but i come up with all my own melodies. I hate these lazy procuders that just use loops.
André 3000s “The Love Below” was even wilder than “808s.”
Its just going through a transition, if yall remember 2005ish-2010ish it was that terrible phase of "snap/swag" music took over they said it was dead... then Tyler, Kendrick, cole, asap, joey bada$$, big krit, prime drake, big sean, wale, cheif keef hit and revitalized it again. I feel another Renaissance could happen or tik tok will ruin it but ogs need to step in
tik tok is the modern equivalent of ringtone rap. People thought that would last, then smartphones became accessible to most people in like 2010 🤣.
The swag era was way better than this ‘creative revolution’ now at least it was organic and not only being pushed by the biggest stars
You put a lot of effort into these videos and they are great to watch. So thank you
Thanks for noticing glad you enjoyed! Things are only going up from here!
Bro this is why I fw you bro.... You have the exact same feelings I've been feeling for a long time now... Everyone wants to make songs with no substance and try to make shii for a TikTok hit and don't evolve 🤦🏿♂️ this is why I make the type of beats that I make so we can get real music back
i been seeing this coming its time for us underground artists to experiment and make the new sound! best of luck to everyone grinding
Hiphop is lost and confused right now. It’s in a R&B, Rock, and Pop transition. Rock went through the same thing before it died out. We experiencing the last days of Hiphop before it goes full blown POP!
Hiphop will never truly die out, especially with how creative you can get with it, we'll see in the future tho
this take is so dumb LOL
Hip hop been pop. Afrobeats and Amapiano are where it’s at
R&B>>
Recycled trap beat kits with wack as producers, whatever happen to real producers like , timbaland, organized noize, manny fresh, swizz beats , jermaine dupri , dj Paul and juicy beats ?
This is amazing. I've been seeing many pessimistic reviews in music today. And this really made me have better expectations for the future. Cause what you said just make sense
I love and agree with the point of this video however gotta call out a huge gap in the artists that are being credited here. To suggest the modern experimentation in Hip Hop is being led by A$AP Rocky, Tyler, Travis Scott and Kanye (all mainstream acts) is a huge disservice to the armies of underground and indie artists who arent Hip Hop media darling who have been pushing the vanguard of these sounds before the established acts.
EG, Kanye did not invent experimental rap with Yeezus, he was coming late to the party of acts like Dalek, Death Grips, Saul Williams who were already adding experimental and industrial soundscapes to rap. Lofi soundscapes were being used by tons of artists before ASAP and Tyler from SpaceGhost to MFDoom, and i'd give a shoutout too to Roc Marciano and KA for the drum less sound the started.
Don't forget the underground is always at the cutting edge of these developments.
I agree w what you're saying, idk how he managed to talk about the most mainstream of experimental music, how tf did they manage to make a video on experimental music w/o artists that make it being talked about, smh.
hip hop isn't dying its becoming better for once
You sure
Great video, love this breakdown of Hip-Hop
Underground talents like, That Mexican OT, BKtharuler, Veeze, Gensowise, & many others, will be among the next wave of talent that comes out Carti Uzi & Drake will carry the game for the next 3-5 years until the torch is passed
That's how you know rap is dead when you hear rappers like Travis Scott, Lil Uzi Vert, Playboi Carti, and Drake names.
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10 years after Yeezus we got Utopia... maybe in 10 years from now we'll get part 3
Really Great Content!
Glrateful I stayed true to myself & continued to create stuff that actully means something to me other than whats trending or popular.
808s & heartbreak is hands down my favorite Kanye album
Hip hop bouta get WEEEEIIIIRD… and I’m gonna go weird wit it
Rap today is like 80s hairmetal, it’s gonna get knocked out by something else
Rap needs a nirvana or a pearl jam😅😅
@@adamprice3466it was XXXTENTACION, but he got killed
@@Yet.Another.Rapper.KiG.V2💀💀
Recycled trap beat kits with wack as producers, whatever happen to real producers like , timbaland, organized noize, manny fresh, swizz beats , jermaine dupri , dj Paul and juicy beats ? May as well bring in AI or Hologram rappers..
Tbh, Busdriver was my first renaissance hip hop (mostly weird) artist that I started listening too, Any who, I totally agree its about time hip hop made some changes. #50yearsofhiphop
I do find this video great but like others have mentioned your giving a lot of the credit for experimentation in hip-hop to mainstream artists like Kanye, Tyler, and Travis when they just brought experimentation to the mainstream. Artist like Death Grips, JPEGmafia, Aesop Rock, Injury Reserve, and Billy woods are better pioneers for the experimental hip-hop and post hip-hop
For sure, kinda annoyed at how people just want their music hand fed to them. Like bro, you gotta dig to find the good stuff.
@@IolZ555this is true
@@IolZ555lot of people dont have time or energy 🤷♂️
@@IolZ555 everyone knows these people mate you don't have to dig
@@drpea5189wrong, I can’t walk up to someone on a random day and ask if they like By The Time I Get To Phoenix by Injury Reserve. Or if they’re checked out that new billy woods project, because they’re underground.
its not dying!! maybe ur perception of it is dying but the genre itself will outlive us all.
Did you watch the video‼️‼️‼️
tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video
Hip Hop is fallen into a trap, but the greatest ones will not be stuck
The second blow to hip-hop was the saturation of the country bumpkins from the south that turned hip-hop into Vaudeville. Instead of it being taken as a serious art form. We allowed people who had no real talent enter into this genre and they have completely destroyed it
the day hip hop artists will all flipping a bird to the music industry,, and all musicians in general , maybe there will be a real new era. The power of the DIY mindset with the present technology, is one of the only game changer possible. Travis Scott, Tyler and Kanye are glitches in the matrix of maintream rap music, this freedom should be the norm not the exception.
This ain’t “HIPHOP”
Hiphop died a long time ago when Nas made “Hiphop is Dead” back in 2006.
This shyt now is just R&B
Rap & Bullshyt
Hip hop is a culture , rap is what we do . To quote KRS 1 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 don’t forget breaking dancing, graffiti on the walls, style of clothing, slang
Thanks for giving some hope
Kanye made it so mainstream to the point hiphop just simply become the music everyone can like but the next generation only settle for "making hiphop music that everyone can like" u know what i mean
we need new rappers who will gatekeep hiphop in a good way that will say to the world yall can enjoy this genre but yall cant easily copy or steal or enter the game
I’m a huge old school hip hop fan and I want to hear music similar to that style instead of trap and mumble rap. It’s just my opinion. I’m not trying to sh*t on anyone who likes the state of modern hip hop. There are artists I respect in today’s age but that’s just where I stand
Great video for starting day , here in Europe
Love . peace ☮🕊♥
remember when rappers all sounded different? biting was against the rules then.
i want a 2025 version of digital underground, something that's fun, creative, conscious, good lyrics, but also arcane.
At 34 I've always been accepting of change since I was young and when trippie dropped miss the rage and Mario Judah dropped his version of it I had both on repeat and then we have artists like Rico nasty and city morgue kinda gives me that nostalgia feeling of limp Bizkit, Korn.
Wow respect 30+ still bumping Trippie and you hip to Rico nasty 😂🙏
I disagree that Utopia was an “experimental” album. Not many tracks on it jumped out at me that way. If anything, Astroworld was much more experimental with the diverse production and range of instrumentals it had on offer, with almost every track having its unique identity while Utopia just kind of comes across as one note. I highkey think people are abusing the term “experimental” when it comes to rap lol
Poor man’s YEEZY tbh but also quite creative
My favorite artists are the ones willing to take risk and push the envelope of whats accepted despite possible backlash.
In this current era, I feel like Carti & Uzi are the leaders of this change 🎸(not the only).
I'm always excited to see what they do next.
Uzi mid af😂 carti goated tho
If x was still alive this mfer wouldve have eclipsed allem tho
Theyre literally the ones killing hip hop. Shit dont sound like hip hop so dont call it hop hop.
What risks did uzi take or how did he push envelope ? When he makes generic melodic verbal diarrhea garbage
@@davidawonaike1188did you not listen to pink tape? He took 'risks' for sure... shame all those risks sounded trash. He works best when he sticks to his lane
Here before this blows up
UTOPIA is the bridge between last gen and next gen
Salute to Master P. He helped and hurt hip-hop on some levels. The main marketing aspect...all them damn double discs...and how many albums in a school year. 8th grade, I was irritated. It gotta be a limit!
He put on for indie and mixtapes, but also them cheezy ass covers and oversaturated mixtape formula. Between 7th and 8th grade, at least 20 students lost a double disc of that no limit ish on the bus 😂.
damn this was such a good video. when u pointed out honestly, nevermind by drake it made me re-listen to the album and actually appreciate it lol. subbed
The last decade of Hip-Hop/ Trap/ Rap is legendary like the legendary bands of the 60s and 80s
Lil Wayne needs more credit
He inspired hundreds of rappers, but not the kind of rappers that this type of audience fw
But i agree wholeheartedly, dudes OG
Lil Peep & XXXTentacion were the ones. We talking pushing the creative envelope? They were the scariest things coming.
Them dying accounts for the massive gap in time hip-hop has at this point. When Tupac and Biggie died, Puff Daddy, Jay-Z and DMX were right behind to fill the gap after years of struggle and standing on the sidelines. We didn't even have that because these cats died young and their potential replacements were too young and commercial to fill the void. If XXXtentacion and Lil Peep were still alive, this would be time for their imperial phase, alongside Pop Smoke. This is like if Tupac and Biggie both died before the mid nineties when they became the biggest things in pop culture, not just hip-hop. There is no way Jay-Z or DMX would be ready to step up and replace them at that time. This gap period means we need older guys like Drake who actually need some more rest for creativity to step up and still deliver because the younger generation is not ready yet. Those were are dead. Smh. This is the time Drake should have been trying to enter Hollywood (mid nineties LL style) and he's STILL rapping because no one can replace him, yet. This ish is depressing, not gonna lie...
Most rappers got lazy & lost the importance of being an artist instead of just a hustle for a money play
Be original. Be you. Be hip. =Hip Hop ✊🏾
I love the honesty behind this video. No one ever gives carti and uzi their credit. its not "rage" music but they blended hip hop and punk rock music. Perfect combo. Amazing video shedding light on the hip hop renaissance we are in, its misunderstood but appreciated by thousands
JPEGMAFIA definitely can be included as well he rly changing shit up
Not anymore maybe like 5 years ago but the new album sounded like a chatgpt result for ‘really REALLY ironic internet experimental rap album’ his persona may have gotten too cringe for him to ever actually make a big impact
Great Video. Great insight
We are entering a new age … and I will be apart of the rise one way or another ASÉ amen ❤️
Yes! I'm all for change.....maybe this time around you could call it something else!! Let's just give it back to the ones who celebrate the Hip-Hop culture,the ones who recognize the 4 elements,and hold them in high regards. The way it's being handled now is a shit show and I blame the INDUSTRY for this!
Skipping over 2016 is crazy to me
Edit: also skipping over Thug is nuts
He's in jail. Deal with it.
@@manniking233 ok? I didn’t say anything about him being in jail
@@Skooby . Him bringing up Thug would've meant referencing his jail time. Not everyone likes dwelling on such matters. I understand him skipping Thugger in that context.
@@manniking233 I’m talking about his impact on hip hop
Underground artists tap in !!
Let’s work !!
Hip hops changing cuz I’m coming in 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
It's easy to Hop on a popular artist's wave. They get support no matter what they put out. When we start seeing no name artists come up then we can call it a revolution.
The problem with hip hop now is that all rappers are about thier gimmick now.
It’s not about what your saying or how that effects the listener, but about how they dress act and look. Hip has has become too materialistic. There’s no realness, love r soul in hip-hop anymore. Those problems compounded by rappers mumbling and singing un-intelligible raps has lead to all artists sounding the same and not having much impact on the world.
Great video !
Hip hop isn’t dying but it’ll change like it always does…
xxxtentacion had a big part also in this change brp .. 17 question mark and all his other creative tracks
Rap is evolving! Dropping my first MV soon! 🎉🎉🎉
Thank God! Now we can get back to how it use to be!🙏🏿 Hold tight the runaways! Ampichino, Joe blow, mobfigaz. M.I.P the JackArtist and M.I.P Street Knowledge 🙏🏿
It’s time not just to change the sound but the whole spectrum of morality and clarify that alcohol parties drugs is evil and trash even lots of music sounds should die too
Hiphop will change because of me n my team coming just watch us work
I'm rooting for ya
@@notroc8 hmm bet
I really love this new wave, it just feels more like music again and not empty flexing
I think it's in a 20yr cycle where it'll enter something equivalent to the bling/ ringtone rap era (arguably the worst era) where the quality dips down for a bit and goes into hiding for a few years. I think in 3-4 after rock and country go wild it will comeback stronger than ever.
Nobody actually liked that Kendrick Lamar big stepper's album. It was just the biggest tour because of the pandemic. All these so-called creative artists are really just sad, uninspired Satan's that need to just go somewhere. The devil is the most uncreative entity in the world. And they thrive off his methods. That's why the industry is so dull and stupid right now. Nobody's even trying to make good music anymore. They're just trying to click bait and ride other people's waves. Kendrick Lamar and his little cousin was one of the biggest disappointments ever
rave beats, new jazz, rock rap, and all these other sub genres are changing hip hop/rap.
artists like kenny mason, lunchbox, gab3, yeat, and others are changing the game with their music.
yeat is kinda falling off now ngl. also the others arent rlly "Changing the game". just watch bro the rage/new jazz shit is gonna die out in the next 2-5 years cuz of how repetitive it is
FUNK the mainstream! Underground HipHop is were its at! AktheSavior, Chester Watson, Aura Da Prophet, Zombie Juice, Noname, Mick Jenkins, Reason...
Mainstream hip-hop has been slowly dying for decades it's been declining for years now Underground hip-hop will always live on
Good job on the video, only person you missed was XXXTENTACION. I think his creativity changed the game a lot . Pop smoke did a lot in his short time as well. Not as much as xxx but definitely noticeable.
I'd argue Pop didn't invent much. His beats and rapping were pretty standard
@@elliothammer9485everyone agrees pop smoke was like 50 cent reborn. So not really original but he did have hot songs
the same could be said abt xxx. Pop tackled a foreign sub genre and put his own sound on it
Pop Smoke was good but certainly not boundary-pushing in any way
Old x, new x, ion care its all blessed
AS A 25 YEAR OLD FROM THE BIRTH PLACE OF HIP-HOP 🗽 THIS MAKES ME VERY HAPPY ✅
IM SO SICK OF THE FAST FOOD RAP 👎🏾 GLAD ARTISTS ARE FINNALY CREATING ART AGAIN 🔥
This is clearly just an American hip hop trends... Globally its different af... its also odd how there was no mention of hip hop overseas & the importance of hip hop all over the world... I mean 50 cent is enough evidence. Dudes packing arenas rn all over the world rn!
FINALLY. SOMEONE WHO GIVES ROCKY AND TYLER THEIR CREDIT
Really god job on this one tbh #305 #MiA #FL
Drizzy will never not be relevant, he’s too good and will adapt to whatever
Facts
He's still relevant because the younger guys who could have replaced him are dead now. Smh. This would have been the commercial peak of XXXtentacion and Pop Smoke if they were still alive.
@@manniking233 agreed with your sentiment of x and pop being huge if they were alive (I loved them as artists), but that doesn’t mean that Drake would be IRRELEVANT if that was the case
@@manniking233let’s keep it a stack. Drake ain’t been replaced by x. Drake is on that A list level. Those guys would have been big but more on a at best Charlie puth or lil baby level where people will enjoy them but they also don’t appeal to people’s parents etc
personally i believe that tyler, kanye and carti are the most revolutionary hip hop artists ever. These 3 just created something completely new in the hip hop world every single time they dropped. Knaye is just kanye, not many things to say, tyler especcially after flower boy dropped back to back 3 of the greatest rap albums after 2010 up until today, igor might even be in the top 3, carti released self titled which was amazing, die lit which created a whole sub genre of rap and was influential asf and then wlr which there are no words to say and in 10 year we'll be looking back to these concerts and saying carti was kanye level with his creativity and art, even though it sounds crazy now
I agree with the Kanye statement, his influence can’t be overstated really.
Well since you included Tyler most people including me say Tyler is Kanye level.
bro put kanye in the same sentence as tyler and carti, unbelievable.
@@kkrkkr5093 bro, kanye himself loves these too, just because you are stuck to 2010 doesnt mean there are no longer revolutionary and amazing artists like kanye. Yes kanye is better than both but lets see tyler and carti in the next 10-15 years.
IGOR isn't a top 3 rap album because it ain't even a rap album
Rap does not equal HipHop. HipHop is our culture, anything we call “HipHop” is HipHop
I opened so many tabs while watching this video it was crazy
God i'm so happy i'm subbed to this channel
Thanks so much for saying that. Comments like these inspire me to keep getting better and delivering great content. Really appreciate you my friend
I wonder what would happen if 90s style returned to hip hop those were my favorite years from Naughty by nature Ice T and NWA to Big and Pac and wu tang and roots to Nas and Jay z Busta rhymes bone thugs to DMX to Eminem and TI and more, that's the Era I come from I would like to see what would happen if that style came back even if the artist aren't as talented as the classics at least they could be on a similar page with a similar style kind of bring back the memories of back then and who knows where hip hop would advance to after that
Plus, 00s soul rap sound
Underground could bring hip hop back to life,so much personality,styles and amazing production to listen hours on end to,mainstream is biting off the underground sound too much that radio music will soon be looked at as nothing but audio programming,Underground 4L
Hip hop turned satanic, demonic, gay, unhinged, unruly, unholy, unlyrical, barless, overall less talented. Hip hop is all about poetry , MCing, flow, it was for the people. Hip hop use to welcome the best of the best now it's full of trolls. They will let anyone pic up a mic now. Our standards as a people use to be high. Now we just get high. etc. Change is not always better. A lot of the time things are great as is. We have allowed "them" to infiltrate our art and take the soul from it. I miss real Rap. Some of us are trying to bring it back to rap. It's like Trolls 2 "I'm here to take your strong bro" now they are killing our music and putting everything in under rock. Rappers look like them now. Like rock and roll artest AFTER IT WAS STOLLEN.
And unfortunately record labels don’t care about the art, they just care about what sales
Hip Hop can never die because it’s not a genre. It’s just all the genres combined. It’s actually the final genre as all the other ones died because they fall into hip hop at this point. This means I can make a rock album and call it hip hop then drop classical music and just put lyrics over it and call it hip hop. Hip Hop is the final genre.
I agree with a lot of things you said in this video