This video took me ages to complete. Lots of testing was involved, new test system, new chart layout and design, etc. 😪🥱😴 I hope my efforts weren't in vain. 😁
this GPU is in my system! i also have 128GB DDR4 4000mhz ram also a blueray rom i spent around $8,000cnd on building my computer! most of my money went into the storage of the device i have 59TB of storage on my PC
I recently upgraded from a 3080 to the 7900xtx red devil model and so far I haven't regret it. It was just the most affordable option for me at the time as a 4090 was just out of the question.
Dude 600-1200$ more depending on when you bought a 4090. It’s just too expensive for some of us. You think that everyone with a 4000$ computer can just buy a 5500$ one instead?
Considering at the time a few months ago i bought my xtx a 4090 was over double its price that sounds like a big jump saying i could just buy that instead i also sold my 3080 after to get some money back.@@jackking9700
Hardly. RT and better yet, Path Tracing is a big deal. Not just for games, but also for productivity work that includes real time rendering. Consider this, a rtx 3060 will match or surpass a 7900xtx in Blender renders. It goes to show you were the 7900xtx sits in some of these work loads. RT/PT won't matter for the guy who plays competitive shooters, but for the best visual experience now and going forward, it definitely carries some weight, especially when ray reconstruction and rtx remix are taken into account.
I'm a year this month owning an xfx merc xtx and it's been great and only getting better. With the new fsr 3 mods coming out and afmf on some titles, especially older ones, it just keeps getting better. I expect to happily own this card a few years.
@2GreedyT4 7900 xtx is a beast. I have one and it destroys every game you throw at it. I also have a 4080 super. And from my experience because of the amd sharpening effect games look way better on the 7900 xtx
nice ground level re-review of this model, I had the RX 570 4GB until january 2023 when it stopped working then I bough a RX 40608GB in july 2023 at $280 thinking it was enough for 2023 games but it wasn't, I got the AMD reference RX 7900XTX in January 10 2024 and the performance is amazing, the gpu is undervolted @1025mv 2400-2600 core and +2000 memory with no coil whine, so I am expecting to use this card for at least 3 to 4 years with the r7 7800x3d, asrock b650, 64GB@6000 cl32.
The custom versions boost to 3ghz. I think it makes them unstable. I can’t run an undervolt that low or vram that high. I reduced clocks to reference levels to remedy this in some games.
@@quintrapnell3605yeah, tho I did try to OC my card and it was pulling 390W with 1100mv@2700-2900 +15% power limit but the performance gained was up to 3-5% from stock clocks and not worth the power draw, so I ended with the above undervolt and 290W while gaming and that lower the temps from 70C core, 85C hotspot, 92C mem junction to 64C core, 80C hotspot and 85C mem junction. limiting the card to just 2600Mhz@1025mv not touching the power limit just lowered the power draw from 350W to 290W.
1025mV is super low, I don't think it's stable in all games even capping the clock at 2600, I had crashes in some games whenever I went lower than 1080mV
Same here I have the Msi SLIM X 4090 and 7900 XTX and with most games you can't tell the difference (Allen Wake) and Cyberpunk at 4k PT/RT being the only ones that really slow down the 7900 XtX. It's really a great card and if you can grab one for under $1,000 it's a steal in todays market.
?? You get significantly better frames in 4k then xtx. How can you not tell? The benchmarks don't lie. Not saying it's a bad card but it doesn't compare to a 4090.
@YoungWise2011 When you set your game to get only 120 or 140 frames which whatever type of monitor or TV you have the overhead doesn't matter. Say at 1440P or 4k they are both giving me 240 frames in my FPS game for my 240Hz monitor it doesn't matter that the 4090 gets 330 frames compared to 300 frames for the XTX as they both are locked at 240. Now for single player games when using high settings and RT/PT naturally there's a difference but not even my 4090 can give me 240 in them games but it does get me closer than the 7900 xtx. I don't leave my cards (unlocked) to get frames that aren't seen no reason for my XTX to be pushing 580 watts for 400 frames when I get my 240 while using 275 watts. And I am still scared to push my 4090 max watts with the cords and stuff melting so I keep it locked for that season so it doesn't go over 350 watts most.
Adrenaline software doesn’t show the memory junction hotspot temp. It’s higher than you think it sometimes. If it’s as hot as the GPU hotspot temp then consider it a win. If it’s hotter then give it some consideration.
Same as .posted elsewhere avoid power color shorter warranty and woree CS for absolutely minimal price diff if any vs far better options like XFX, asus, saphire And avoid gigwpabyte for vid duento their pathetic failure to honor warranty on their badly designed cards
For CP2077 Phantom Liberty, I got similar results at 4K-HDR, main difference is my CPU is Ryzen 5900X, DDR3600CL16 and GPU is XFX Merc 310. This card is a mining monster too with reasonable power draw but I use it mainly for gaming and AV1 encoding.
@@asplmn sorry I'm cheap. 😂 Learning Da Vinci Resolve and using the AI function in Clipchamp. Latest version of Da Vinci Resolve with latest AMD drivers work flawlessly. However H. 265 video don't work in Clipchamp. Need to transcode to H. 264.
I have it's little brother (7900xt) and have no problems with it at all. Been very happy with FSR2 but i'm also a former console peasant so my standards may be lower than others. Either way, it all works and looks great when paired with my LG C1 TV.
I bought a XTX Sapphire Nitro+ a month ago.Card is a monster but i had problem with drivers. Almost every game i tried was crashing.Then i installed previous version of drivers (23.12.1.) and that fix the issues for me.
Yes brother this card is problematic with certain driver revisions and games. New games need new driver support but AMD breaks something everytime they fix something. New drivers have optimizations that you might want but have to ignore because the new driver may crash your previous games if you exceed 60fps or don’t use vsync or something arbitrary and annoying that shouldn’t be happening with default graphics settings and GPU settings. This commenter took the correct action and I only leave my reply so others don’t feel gas lighted by nvidia or AMD fan boys. They do not help either side only stupid arguments.
If you had an nvidia gpu before you should clean install windows. Otherwise if you had an amd a proper DDU will suffice(check videos on how to do it). Also check the power connectors if they are plugged in tightly from both sides (psu and gpu). An 850 watt psu is the minimal recommended but it depends on the rest of the system's power draw. A 1000 watt psu is more than enough.
I bought a XTX and it was my worst gpu-purchase ever. Not because of the card, it is really fine, but because for the games I play on a 100mhz 1440p ultrawide it is bit of overkill. The game I play most, ACC, only uses about 60% of its capabilities with all the bells and whistles on and always gives me a steady (capped) 97 FPS.. So, I could have saved a lot of money to buy many bratwürste. My idea on ray tracing is that even the best cards of today will not be able to play ray tracing games of the near future easily; for that you will probably need future cards that are substantially better at it, making buying a good RT-card now not a great investment. The XTX does well btw with ray tracing on, but I only have two games that support it (Jedi Survivor and Last of Us, think the latter has it), and I'm not impressed with it and would rather have more FPS. Still, since my monitor is just 100mhz I have it switched on because it makes no difference, the card produces near 100 fps anyway. An exception is the ray tracing stuff used in Cyberpunk, but that game is a showcase for certain specifically Nvidia technologies, explaining why AMD does so poorly in it. No regrets buying it, too expensive for sure, but it is a nice feeling to have a card that, for now, does everything well in a relaxed way. I also had no driver issues at all.
Play some Civ 6! I recently purchased a RX 6700xtx and a 7900 xtx. The 7900xtx hasn't been put in anything yet, but the 6700 xtx has and its getting me up to 400 fps on some games! Civ 6 for example puts the gpu at 97% utilization. Might not be your thing but just a suggestion.
I do, for intsance there might be a new Assetto Corsa this year, and I can be sure that the card will run it. Also the card gives me the option to go 4k or have a three monitor setup (racing), etc. Nice not to have to worry about if your system can run something or not for a while. :-)@@onomatopoeia162003
Lightest game I play is CS2 (CSGO), I slowed the card down to save energy but still get around 400 fps. Seems enough for an amateur like me. ;-) @@15751Chris
@joniqst from a graphics standpoint, admittedly barely. From a performance standpoint though, yeah; I was playing Hell Divers as my main game when I made the switch and stopped getting stutters almost entirely, whereas sometimes I'd get them if enough explosions were going off.
The 7900 series is really good. Very generous with vram. Decent rt if your into that. The tuf cards have a silent mode that's very quiet. Solid, heavy and well built. Will last as long time. I like the Asus tuf 7900 xt.
I have had it also since last summer. I like to uv it a little and limit the really agressive clocks so the hots spot wont go over 90c (without any modifications it reached 110c for me) but after the tweaks no complaints and I love it. It is a beast
Glad you did all this testing, thank you. Only suggestion I would have is that the testing should have been against the 4080 instead of the 3080 since both the XTX and 4080 Super are roughly the same price
Great video, as always thanks. I feel like there's still a ton of gamers out there who don't care for the value adds, they just want max fps for a given budget. That Tuf card is pretty nice as well, those temps are phenomenal. When RT was still new back in the day, playing Control, I was super psyched. But honestly I've come around to liking games that are much more moderate and sensible with RT, like Metro Exodus, Avatar, etc, where it's built in from the ground up, super optimized and not completely insane; and for these games, the Radeon and Intel cards do very well, the huge gap doesn't exist the way it does in something like Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2.
Cyberpunk was made with specific Nvidia code just like what happened with tesselation in crisis 2. The RT could have been about the same on amd if the code wasnt biased to Nvidia. Comparing brand with cyberpunk is pointless. Even in 10 years time it will still run better on Nvidia.
Amazing price and a great card. Don't forget to undervolt your 6950xt and OC the Vram. It is a 8-10% fps increase for free. I have the 6900xt since 2021 and i love it. With FSR and now Frame Generation, it is still a good 4k gpu. FG in starfield or Avatar is very impressive.
i am upgrading from 1080 ti to 7900 xtx. An old beast to another beast. I an so excited looking at the charts going by the prices in the local market 7900 xtx is only 100 dollars more than 3090. and 400 dollars less than 4080 super.
@@thedutchfisherman7078 it does but the bottleneck isnt that bad like i am not getting unplayable fps. I play warzone extreme settings and i am still above 190 fps
@@ma-saracen thats great to hear mate. 👍👍 I (still) have a GTX 1080 myself and was thinking to uograde and buy this Asus card too. But I have a i7 7700k and am worried for bottlenecking. I'm also thinking to upgrade my Eizo 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor. Hard choices.
I had massive issues with the early drivers for my 7900XT. FFXIV as an example would just crash every single time I tried to run it until the 23.7.1 drivers so for the first 6 months it was unusable for me and I switched back to the 3060 I had. After that release of I have had no real issues, some stuttering in some games due to the drivers but the normal fixes usually worked (DDU or rolling back to the last stable non-stuttery driver). Just as an aside I have had to do the same thing to fix stuttering in games with nvidia drivers as well so all the problems ive had with AMD drivers are not unique to a specific vendor. I will always stand by my stance of the 7900 cards having come out 6-9 months too early. The idle power draw wasn't fixed for 9 months after the card came out and the drivers were super unstable for me for 6-7 months after I got my card. That just keeps feeding the meme of AMD drivers suck and we could all benefit if AMD didn't give people ammunition in that way.
One thing about current gpu's is what happened to blowing hot air out of the case? Now it just dumps it inside towards the motherboard and the case door. If there isn't much clearance on the top of the GPU because the case door is blocking air flow you have a real problem. Not to mention you better have some good front to back air flow in the case to keep everything cool. And hopefully you have your m.2 nvme drives covered with a heat sink or it will burn them up since they sit right under this thing.
I've had one since launch. I also have an RX6700Xt in what is now my son's system. The RX6700XT is problem free but lots of driver problems with the RX7900XTX. Day to day lots of small issues and problems with driver updates. Yes, I've done the safe mode, DDU dance, and even a clean windows install. RDNA3 is very problematic for someone who seriously uses their PC (content creation and CAD work) and even just general windows functionality. It's the worst upgrade I've ever made and I regret it so much. Next year I will be going back to team green for my main system regardless of price/performance. If all I was doing was gaming with frequent reboots, it would be fine.
I know this curse too. The card is just unstable with certain driver revisions and games. To make it stop you usually have to lower the frame rate to 60 or something dumb like that. Really makes you look dumb when you spend three times the money and a 200$ card would average out to working better.
My 6700xt has been having driver issues since day 1 until today. Idk how yours was problem free but reading your review on 7900xtx, I should be going for 4080 super next. Thanks
Likely has to do with market share. They likely assume the Radeon buyers are already drawn to the lower pricing, and considering AMD only has a small slice of the pie, it wouldn't make sense to push their highest end card.
24gb of VRAM, 3200mhz+ boost clocks just by clicking a single button in the AMD Adrenaline software and the $1700-$2000 4090 being the only card with better raster, I'd say this is a damn good card and great high end value. The latest versions of FSR and AFMF are really doing well and these cards are seriously heavy hitters in todays gaming world. Why there is so much hate, I'm not sure. I feel like people root for cards like they do their favorite football team.
Just got this card for some guy that wanted to expend 1800€ on a 4090, got this 7900xtx asus tuf for 600€ just crazy cant believe it, great change so far came from a 3080
i also bought this card about 2 months ago for my new build. Honestly the 4090 is just stupidly priced for the average consumer! and yes I could afford it but I dont think a card like the 4090 should cost another thousand for just a small jump in performance just my opinion. I have had zero issues with this card runs like butter, super quiet, use it for DCS dont really care about DLSS, FSR works great for me! and ray tracing yeah its nice but is it an xtra $1000 bucks nice? not for me lol
I upgraded early last year; at the time, 7900xtx was under £900. The 4070 12GP was, I think, around £800, and the 4080 was well north of £1200 in the UK. not a good time to get a GPU I end up getting myself a 7900XTX sapphire pulse; the extra X cost me a £100 at the time. Funny what you remember. As for raytracing the 7900XTX, its ray tracing performance is equal to 3090 more or less, and I have not sold on ray tracing for me the over all experance is better with turn off. CPU 5800X3D, RAM 16GB X2 3600, Display 3440×1440 air cooler case, and CPU Now, 7900XTX is well worth it. There has been no issue at all with temperature, hot spots, or power use, and AMD software has done its job. I have not had a single issue at all, and I would recommend any AMD card with over 16GB of VRAM, as I think this is what you need as games are getting more and more VRAM hungry and take memory bus and bandwidth into account, both of which can be bottlenecks. Now 50% of the new games coming out are going to use Unreal Engine 5. So look at benchmarks for Unreal Engine 5 gaming before making the call for a new GPU you're getting yourself.
In the last part of your story you say "50% of the new games coming out are going to use Unreal Engine 5. So look at benchmarks for Unreal Engine 5 gaming before making the call for a new GPU you're getting yourself". When I google up what performance is for AMD and Nvidia when it comes down to UE5, I see that people say that AMD always have trouble with UE5. What is your view on this yourself? Your still happy with your 7900XTX? Thanks!
@@stabilozzI got my 7900XTX around a year ago, So no regrets, The 7900XTX has a lot of raw performance, it should be ok. So with UE5 becoming such a common game engine, I do think that AMD will put time into supporting the UE5 engine. If I had gotten 4070 now, I would have felt a bit gutted due to the lack of VRAM and the fact that 40XX Supers are the GPU that 40xx should have been. Ref 50% of UE5 games search Over half of all announced games for next-gen game consoles are being developed using Epic Games’ Unreal Engine suite of developer tools, Epic VP of engineering Nick Penwarden said in an interview with The Verge. I think number of you tube posts I spotted this on
Bought this exact same model 1 year ago to replace my 3080 (lacking VRAM at 10GB playing uw 1440p, shame on NVidia!) Really happy with it, didn't had issues except the high "desktop consumption" for a few months, and very very few drivers crashes My main gripe is that the cooling on the chip isn't really well done, sure average temp rarely reaches 70C but at 65C+ the hotspot tends to be +30C hotter at 95C+... Bad contact I suppose. This means fans have to work hard, so I dumped the VBIOS "Quiet" mode Then the RT isn't great, in Cyberpunk I have roughly same RT perf than I had with the 3080 (but in raster it's +40%!), and PT is unplayable. But this is only an issue with a few very RT heavy games But overall performance is stellar, even if it come at a cost of 420W+ power consumption at max PL +15% ! To nitpick a bit on specs, yes the 7900XTX mem speed is a bit slower than on a 4080S, but the bus size is 384 bit to 256, so texture rate is faster at 950GTex/sec to 800 on a 4080, this may explain why the 7900XTX is a bit faster than the 4080 in rasterization in some games
It’s an amazing card I have the gigabyte model the reason why I got it was because I didn’t care about ray tracing. Changed from a 3080 and the performance uplift was crazy. Even though the core temps were stable the hot spot if I leave it on default while playing returnal goes up to 110c which too high and the power consumption is too high. As much as I want to support AMD I will have to go team green again in the future .
I love my ASRock Taichi 7900xtx but there are problems with older games based on PhysX technology. Batman Arkham Asylum drops below 30 FPS, GPU is paired with Ryzen 7 5800x3d. I don't know how to solve it. Is it possible to run older Nvidia GPU as a PhysX card only?
I thought of something and I want you guys to think about it if AMD was in the same position as Nvidia would they be the same or would they be greedy? You have to remember that there’s no such thing as a good company only a good product AMD delivers on the promise of a good product, but the reason they do that is because they’re trying to get marketshare from the video if it was reversed AMD would look like the bad guy
No good company? All companies try to maximize profit, but some are downright scummy about it. Some are not. AMD makes so much tech open source. That's pretty good. Nvidia has some pretty bad practices despite making a good product. Apple intentionally makes their tech hard to repair & tries to keep parts from getting to 3rd party repair shops. Very scummy & horrible for the environment. There's a shoe company that donates a pair of shoes to 3rd world people for every pair they sell. That's a good intentioned company.
Course they would. In fact both AMD and Nvidia admitted to restricting supply in order to keep prices high. They also pulled the same stunt Nvidia did by pushing a lower tier card as one tier higher. Nvidia eventually reversed course on this, but AMD didn't. Furthermore, both CEOs are members of the same blood related family. Bad optics right there. AMD is no saint, they just have a smaller market share in certain markets and don't have the luxury to act like a market leader.
Nice review. This GPU, if it was 700$ would be the Best on the market, simply by Value to Performance. I know that wont happen, so lets be happy with a 20-30% slower GPU compared to the 1,600$ - to - 2,000$ card that can Burn down your house! :D
It's a tough decision but for me the value to performance AMD wins . What sways me is the fact that i play single player games only and love the high fidelity that ray tracing brings. FSR and DLSS are great tools for upscaling but native is where it's at in most situations for me. If i played competitive games lie COD and such I would go with the AMD cards because it's raw power and frames so the lower cost AMD wins.
1 year later my xtx is blowing himself apart with 2 random screen glitches for now, a lots of UE5 games errors that won't launch and 105 C° on hotspot but it's fine with the house on fire meme. I'm going for 4090 so tired to be a tecnician with the amd's, i don't want to learn to open a pc shop repair, i just want to play games.
@bad_emil8945 the mx 4 is really good stuff. Maybe screw pressure. Try remount. If that does not work slap a water cooler on it to see if the vapor chamber cooler is defective
I like how this card has a normal 3x power connectors instead of that stupid pig tail that looked like someone made it in their garage that is on the rtx 4080's
how could it draw more than what 3x8pins can give? i mean, i am not much of a computer geek, but i do know that each 8-pin is 150W each...so 3 of them would be 450w at most........so how did it do 500w? i am confused.
Had one , drivers constantly crashing and no fixes helped. If i get a replacement card would it be fine on a 850w psu with the 7800x3d ? I dont think the issue was the psu but i wanna be sure
For me a reddit post helped. Opened the regestry and changed the value of "EnableULPS" from 1 to 0 + all Energy options to balanced. No driver timeouts ever since.
It’s pretty much fixed but if both displays are high refresh rate idle power can be higher. Reducing one display to 120 or lower greatly reduces pwr use.
@@gamepac7671 You sure about that? One of the downsides with using chiplets is the high idle power draw. We see this with the AMD CPUs as well. Would be surprised if this is actually fixed as opposed to made less bad.
If you buy this card you’re buying an unfinished experiment. It’s unique and that made it a little problematic but it does perform and it does work. It’s just it won’t always work by default. Sometimes you have to wait on an update to solve an issue but there’s usually a work around or user error to eliminate and the driver update is just doing that for you without the guess work.
I first encountered this with my 5700xt and halo infinite when that was a thing the drivers sucked yea you just wait a couple months and try again 😂 it’s sad I got a 6700xt and it’s been smooth time to get a 7900xt and see if it’s a beast considering I only paid 500 for a 7900xt
It’s a random driver time out/crash that seems to related to high utilization or going over 3ghz clock speed on the non reference cards. Sometimes it’ll be more prevalent depending on how the game pushes the card. Most of the time though it can rip ass no problem then just randomly crash. New games like helldivers2 or even the FSR3 starfield patch gave it hard time. World of Warcraft crashed about once a day. All of these things are fixed now.
U should bench the "video playback power consumption" too... AMD simply f*cked up in this category ! Last Gen's 6800 (and up) RDNA 2 GPUs & the new 7000 (RDNA 3) series have serious power issues @ video playback (TH-cam, Netflix, VLC etc.) 40+ W is stupidly HIGH & meaningless... and while the previous 6700 XT consumes only 16W, the new 7700 XT doubles that power draw with a whooping 33W on "video playback" AMD should solve that power issue @ video playback at least in the next 8000 series. 🤔 - That's why I'm NOT UpGrading, I'll stay with RX 6700XT (RDNA 2) until the next Gen.
The Cyberpunk RT results seem Wrong, I have a XFX 7900XTX and im getting around 80FPS at Psycho RT with FSR quality and around 45fps with FSR off same RT in Cyberpunk ..and similar results with Linux..
RT degrades more than raster does when you use FSR. In my opinion it’s better looking in cyberpunk to just run native and turn RT off. In this game and in games before RT devs had to lighting work by “hand”. It looks better than RT with reduced light bounce’s because the pixels are missing and FSR artifacts are added. Just my opinion though. AMD ray tracing is just inferior software and hardware side.
@@quintrapnell3605 This is why nvidia made a big deal with DLSS 3.5 (Ray Reconstruction), it even improves performance. Nothing beats the Path Tracing with RR enabled.
This is because nvidia has better ray tracing and a better upscaler. I can’t point this out enough. Even if AMD had DLSS and the same frame rate as the nvidia GPU the way AMD does light bounce is inferior. When you combine this with FSR and the performance loss you really learn to stop using RT or you enjoy eating shit.
@@mitsuhh 😎 cool, I'm running a 3440x1440 Ultra wide @ 💯 Hz and I still haven't tried Cyberpunk 2077 as I think it will be a bad experience on my 3080TI/5900X with Ray-Tracing turned up - I'm skipping the 4000 series & maybe pick up a 5000 series or RADEON (depending on what their value/performance is like) 👍
$900+ on a gpu with questionable performance in many DX11 titles, questionable performance/stability in newly released games, driver issues, subpar features like FSR and FSR3 FG, mediocre RayTracing, and lackluster content creation applications makes buying a high-end Radeon GPU very difficult. I think buying a 7900xtx in a few months when they inevitably hit $500-$600 is a much better decision. I think low-end/mid range AMD gpus present good value but AMD GPUs don't really offer a proper high-end experience worthy of $900+.
@@brapclap1078 Only when you compare it to a 4090, but it loses that "great value" when you start comparing it to the 4080 super. Its also not just RT and VR, but productivity work and power efficiency as well.
@@toonnut1 Intel gets outperformed by AMD for gaming, and AMD beats Nvidia's performance at every price point they compete in. Not the brightest, are you?
@user-lv8vp3hv1l what's that got to do with AMDIP. Not the brightest are YOU 🤣🤡 AMDIP Definitely out performs intel & nvidia on dips 🤣🤣 @user-lv8vp3hv1l @user-lv8vp3hv1l no AMDip$h!t my 1st comment was about the AMDip. pay attention! you're "not very bright are you" I also said nvidia is greedy that doesn't mean they're good value for money like you brought into the conversation! The 4090 destroys anything AMDIP can make. And intel games better because you don't get any dips! I'll always keep buying nvidia and intel (until) AMDIP Remove the AMDIP. I'm not trying to convince anyone to move from AMDIP to intel or nvidia. You enjoy your dips, and I'll enjoy my smooth gameplay!
@@AlaindeVries it is just out of experience, 4 out of my 5amd card since 2008 have fan problem, they don't produce quality fan, and they are from same manufacturer xfx. Also f that bald guy who reviews amd card, bought in his reviews and regretted it, and thats my last card xfx 685a, ever since i haven't touch amd. I'll take whatever that'll last for more than 4 years that'll give me a locked in 60fps-120. Right now 3080s doing fine with farthest frontiers at 1k pop.
Most of the card are sold by vendors. Some of those put cheap fans on there entry model that make more noise and die faster. The problem isn't exclusive to AMD either. Plenty of entry Nvidia card having the same issue. You should do your homework and read reviews of a particular card before you buy. Not afterwards..
I bought a 7900 xtx last week and the worst decision I everade this bs keeps crashing on games like Forza GTA and ratchet and clank and if u put ray tracing? Ooo boy this is surely a disappointment 1000bucks I'll never get back
Yes. All AMD cards crash like crash on the Forza Horizon series. They're terrible. Pretty strange given that the consoles run on the same architecture.
@@iancurrie8844 yeah and the worst part is that when I installed it it got stuck in my motherboard and when I tried to take it out the clip of the mobo broke and now I literally got that GPU stuck in there
i bought a 4070 ti super and the disappointment is bigger because they are marketing the ray tracing when they cant handle it giga trash at least with amd you know you are getting bad ray tracing so i dont understand the disappointment at least the card is stable and i like the dldsr dlss combo but the ray tracing ahahhah rtx btw
Let's be honest both brands have their issues, when you talk about the magnitude of hardware they have to be compatible with and the amount of driver work that requires... there are going to be hiccups. The reason consoles don't have the same issue (for the most part) it's a static set of hardware and software. There's a price for being on the cutting edge which is always what PC has been. If you don't like to tinker... then pc is probably not the right platform for you.
im not saying that im dissapointed of not be able to play ray tracing im dissapointed because my 1000dollar graphics card literally shut down the whole pc while playing in only 1080p@@VASILISPAGOURAS7
I'll make it easy for you: If Raytracing/Production matters to you then choose Nvidia. If those things DONT matter to you, go with AMD. Currently on a 7800xt with zero driver issues. Going to be upgrading to the 7900 xtx in a few weeks.
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This video took me ages to complete. Lots of testing was involved, new test system, new chart layout and design, etc. 😪🥱😴
I hope my efforts weren't in vain. 😁
Excellent work 👍
@@NaokiWatanabe Thank you so much!
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U did great buddy
Not in vain. I watched it and appreciated the information provided.
Somebody get this guy the funding he needs so he can continue to make great content
Thank you so much for your kind words!
"I do not have the financial means for a 4070, 4080 or 4090 etc". I laughed. Neither do 99% of the people on the planet. You're in good company!
Haha! It's a miracle I could even afford an RX 7900 XTX, to be honest... xD
I couldn’t afford a 4080 or 4090 would be the accurate statement… the xtx is a good budget option
this GPU is in my system!
i also have 128GB DDR4 4000mhz ram
also a blueray rom
i spent around $8,000cnd on building my computer!
most of my money went into the storage of the device i have 59TB of storage on my PC
In my country 7900xtx costs the same as 4080 super 😂 so I’ll just go with 4080 super
@@JoeWayne84 I wouldn't say budget but it's certainly a pretty good value
I recently upgraded from a 3080 to the 7900xtx red devil model and so far I haven't regret it. It was just the most affordable option for me at the time as a 4090 was just out of the question.
Yep there’s not much upgrade path for the high end that generation. The super cards come too late.
Yeah the super cards are just what should have been offered from nvida to begin with. @@quintrapnell3605
the 7900 xtx is good but if you can afford both 3080 and 7900 xtx idk how you cant aafford 4090
Dude 600-1200$ more depending on when you bought a 4090. It’s just too expensive for some of us. You think that everyone with a 4000$ computer can just buy a 5500$ one instead?
Considering at the time a few months ago i bought my xtx a 4090 was over double its price that sounds like a big jump saying i could just buy that instead i also sold my 3080 after to get some money back.@@jackking9700
The "but what about Ray Tracing" makes me smile, as you know NVIDIA lost the argument if this is all they can up with.
Hardly. RT and better yet, Path Tracing is a big deal. Not just for games, but also for productivity work that includes real time rendering. Consider this, a rtx 3060 will match or surpass a 7900xtx in Blender renders. It goes to show you were the 7900xtx sits in some of these work loads.
RT/PT won't matter for the guy who plays competitive shooters, but for the best visual experience now and going forward, it definitely carries some weight, especially when ray reconstruction and rtx remix are taken into account.
Uhh. RT >> raster.
@@mitsuhh the current state of rt is "get your fps halved for a minor increase in visual quality"
@@nothing-fh8vi completely untrue
@@nothing-fh8vi try using an RTX 4080 and get back to me
I'm a year this month owning an xfx merc xtx and it's been great and only getting better. With the new fsr 3 mods coming out and afmf on some titles, especially older ones, it just keeps getting better. I expect to happily own this card a few years.
I’ve got this exact card, got it in November last year and it’s been rock solid! I play Warzone at 4K on it. Would highly recommend it.
One of the best CoD cards ever
What settings and how many fps?
@@christianl3592ultra 160+ fps
Are you still happy with it ?? I’m going to make my first pc and I’m looking towards this
@2GreedyT4 7900 xtx is a beast. I have one and it destroys every game you throw at it. I also have a 4080 super. And from my experience because of the amd sharpening effect games look way better on the 7900 xtx
As always Nic, thank you for this video, I'm glad you're testing the 7900 XTX
Thank you, I appreciate your kind words. :)
@@Nicolas11x12English is it okay we communicate via email or other ways? I've sent you a mail to discuss something with you, if you don't ofcourse.
nice ground level re-review of this model, I had the RX 570 4GB until january 2023 when it stopped working then I bough a RX 40608GB in july 2023 at $280 thinking it was enough for 2023 games but it wasn't, I got the AMD reference RX 7900XTX in January 10 2024 and the performance is amazing, the gpu is undervolted @1025mv 2400-2600 core and +2000 memory with no coil whine, so I am expecting to use this card for at least 3 to 4 years with the r7 7800x3d, asrock b650, 64GB@6000 cl32.
The custom versions boost to 3ghz. I think it makes them unstable. I can’t run an undervolt that low or vram that high. I reduced clocks to reference levels to remedy this in some games.
@@quintrapnell3605yeah, tho I did try to OC my card and it was pulling 390W with 1100mv@2700-2900 +15% power limit but the performance gained was up to 3-5% from stock clocks and not worth the power draw, so I ended with the above undervolt and 290W while gaming and that lower the temps from 70C core, 85C hotspot, 92C mem junction to 64C core, 80C hotspot and 85C mem junction. limiting the card to just 2600Mhz@1025mv not touching the power limit just lowered the power draw from 350W to 290W.
Thank you! :)
1025mV is super low, I don't think it's stable in all games even capping the clock at 2600, I had crashes in some games whenever I went lower than 1080mV
Good build other than asrock
I have this same gpu and a aorus master 4090. Currently using the xtx and its great..
Same here I have the Msi SLIM X 4090 and 7900 XTX and with most games you can't tell the difference (Allen Wake) and Cyberpunk at 4k PT/RT being the only ones that really slow down the 7900 XtX.
It's really a great card and if you can grab one for under $1,000 it's a steal in todays market.
?? You get significantly better frames in 4k then xtx. How can you not tell? The benchmarks don't lie. Not saying it's a bad card but it doesn't compare to a 4090.
@YoungWise2011 When you set your game to get only 120 or 140 frames which whatever type of monitor or TV you have the overhead doesn't matter.
Say at 1440P or 4k they are both giving me 240 frames in my FPS game for my 240Hz monitor it doesn't matter that the 4090 gets 330 frames compared to 300 frames for the XTX as they both are locked at 240.
Now for single player games when using high settings and RT/PT naturally there's a difference but not even my 4090 can give me 240 in them games but it does get me closer than the 7900 xtx.
I don't leave my cards (unlocked) to get frames that aren't seen no reason for my XTX to be pushing 580 watts for 400 frames when I get my 240 while using 275 watts.
And I am still scared to push my 4090 max watts with the cords and stuff melting so I keep it locked for that season so it doesn't go over 350 watts most.
I bought it's little brother, a Hellhound variant. Runns cool n quiet. Even under load.
Adrenaline software doesn’t show the memory junction hotspot temp. It’s higher than you think it sometimes. If it’s as hot as the GPU hotspot temp then consider it a win. If it’s hotter then give it some consideration.
@@quintrapnell3605you can check that using hwinfo64 , and mostly memory junction temp are around the gpu temp , not hotspot temp.
Same as .posted elsewhere avoid power color shorter warranty and woree CS for absolutely minimal price diff if any vs far better options like XFX, asus, saphire
And avoid gigwpabyte for vid duento their pathetic failure to honor warranty on their badly designed cards
For CP2077 Phantom Liberty, I got similar results at 4K-HDR, main difference is my CPU is Ryzen 5900X, DDR3600CL16 and GPU is XFX Merc 310.
This card is a mining monster too with reasonable power draw but I use it mainly for gaming and AV1 encoding.
AV1 encoding for personal video editing, or some other kind of workload, outta curiosity?
@@asplmn for my vacation vids. I'm shooting with a DJI Pocket 3 but don't want to burn through my HDD & cloud storage. 4K vids are huge!
@@erictayet I've not tried my XTX on video editing/exporting yet. Are you using Adobe? What do you think?
@@asplmn sorry I'm cheap. 😂 Learning Da Vinci Resolve and using the AI function in Clipchamp. Latest version of Da Vinci Resolve with latest AMD drivers work flawlessly.
However H. 265 video don't work in Clipchamp. Need to transcode to H. 264.
I have it's little brother (7900xt) and have no problems with it at all. Been very happy with FSR2 but i'm also a former console peasant so my standards may be lower than others. Either way, it all works and looks great when paired with my LG C1 TV.
...trust you haven't compromised. Not enough for it to really matter in the long term.
I bought a XTX Sapphire Nitro+ a month ago.Card is a monster but i had problem with drivers.
Almost every game i tried was crashing.Then i installed previous version of drivers (23.12.1.)
and that fix the issues for me.
Yes brother this card is problematic with certain driver revisions and games. New games need new driver support but AMD breaks something everytime they fix something. New drivers have optimizations that you might want but have to ignore because the new driver may crash your previous games if you exceed 60fps or don’t use vsync or something arbitrary and annoying that shouldn’t be happening with default graphics settings and GPU settings. This commenter took the correct action and I only leave my reply so others don’t feel gas lighted by nvidia or AMD fan boys. They do not help either side only stupid arguments.
If you had an nvidia gpu before you should clean install windows. Otherwise if you had an amd a proper DDU will suffice(check videos on how to do it). Also check the power connectors if they are plugged in tightly from both sides (psu and gpu). An 850 watt psu is the minimal recommended but it depends on the rest of the system's power draw. A 1000 watt psu is more than enough.
Are your chipset drivers up to date? Also, do you have an OC on your CPU?
Some people talk about last year's GPU as if it's ancient, and then there's me, chillin with my 5 yo budget card. 🤣
I've persponally been using the GTX 1080 Ti from 2017 up until a couple of months ago. It served me well all these years. :)
Bruh so many new CPU since 2020 i feel devastated
@@Nicolas11x12English still on my 980 ti from 9 years ago and I am bout to jump to the 7900 xtx :)
I bought a XTX and it was my worst gpu-purchase ever. Not because of the card, it is really fine, but because for the games I play on a 100mhz 1440p ultrawide it is bit of overkill. The game I play most, ACC, only uses about 60% of its capabilities with all the bells and whistles on and always gives me a steady (capped) 97 FPS.. So, I could have saved a lot of money to buy many bratwürste. My idea on ray tracing is that even the best cards of today will not be able to play ray tracing games of the near future easily; for that you will probably need future cards that are substantially better at it, making buying a good RT-card now not a great investment.
The XTX does well btw with ray tracing on, but I only have two games that support it (Jedi Survivor and Last of Us, think the latter has it), and I'm not impressed with it and would rather have more FPS. Still, since my monitor is just 100mhz I have it switched on because it makes no difference, the card produces near 100 fps anyway.
An exception is the ray tracing stuff used in Cyberpunk, but that game is a showcase for certain specifically Nvidia technologies, explaining why AMD does so poorly in it.
No regrets buying it, too expensive for sure, but it is a nice feeling to have a card that, for now, does everything well in a relaxed way. I also had no driver issues at all.
Might be overkill. But do you think it will be in a few years? That's how I would be thinking.
Play some Civ 6! I recently purchased a RX 6700xtx and a 7900 xtx. The 7900xtx hasn't been put in anything yet, but the 6700 xtx has and its getting me up to 400 fps on some games! Civ 6 for example puts the gpu at 97% utilization. Might not be your thing but just a suggestion.
@@15751Chris6700 XTX???
I do, for intsance there might be a new Assetto Corsa this year, and I can be sure that the card will run it. Also the card gives me the option to go 4k or have a three monitor setup (racing), etc. Nice not to have to worry about if your system can run something or not for a while. :-)@@onomatopoeia162003
Lightest game I play is CS2 (CSGO), I slowed the card down to save energy but still get around 400 fps. Seems enough for an amateur like me. ;-) @@15751Chris
I got my AsRock Phantom 7900 XTX for $880 and I'm incredibly pleased with it at that value. Upgraded from a 3080 TI.
Noticable upgrade?
@joniqst from a graphics standpoint, admittedly barely. From a performance standpoint though, yeah; I was playing Hell Divers as my main game when I made the switch and stopped getting stutters almost entirely, whereas sometimes I'd get them if enough explosions were going off.
@@KeithMoon13 think the vram plays a big part
The 7900 series is really good. Very generous with vram. Decent rt if your into that. The tuf cards have a silent mode that's very quiet. Solid, heavy and well built. Will last as long time. I like the Asus tuf 7900 xt.
Same, I bought the exact card in the video for 1029 USD before tax. Hotspot / Vram temps never break 70c under load
I've had an ASRock RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming OC since August of 2023 and I have no complaints. The card and the drivers have been solid.
I have had it also since last summer. I like to uv it a little and limit the really agressive clocks so the hots spot wont go over 90c (without any modifications it reached 110c for me) but after the tweaks no complaints and I love it. It is a beast
I got a 7900 xtx at Launch and it's been great no issues
Do you by chance have an Intel cpu?
@@quintrapnell3605 no a ryzen 5800x3d
Same as me brother. Thanks for responding.
@@quintrapnell3605 no problem love talking about hardware with people
i have had many crashing in games with this GPU but besides those hiccups its a pretty good GPU over all amazing in fact.
1 year in with my 7900 xtx. I underestimated how often I would turn on ray tracing in games i play.
Which games do you play?
@@lauri9061jedi survivor, cyberpunk, metro exodus, control, avatar frontiers of pandora to name a few
Glad you did all this testing, thank you. Only suggestion I would have is that the testing should have been against the 4080 instead of the 3080 since both the XTX and 4080 Super are roughly the same price
Great video, as always thanks. I feel like there's still a ton of gamers out there who don't care for the value adds, they just want max fps for a given budget. That Tuf card is pretty nice as well, those temps are phenomenal. When RT was still new back in the day, playing Control, I was super psyched. But honestly I've come around to liking games that are much more moderate and sensible with RT, like Metro Exodus, Avatar, etc, where it's built in from the ground up, super optimized and not completely insane; and for these games, the Radeon and Intel cards do very well, the huge gap doesn't exist the way it does in something like Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2.
Thank you very much! :)
Cyberpunk was made with specific Nvidia code just like what happened with tesselation in crisis 2. The RT could have been about the same on amd if the code wasnt biased to Nvidia. Comparing brand with cyberpunk is pointless. Even in 10 years time it will still run better on Nvidia.
I just got a 6950xt for $450 ... That's super high end for my budget lol
Its still is high end, even for last gen card
It is a great card. :)
Amazing price and a great card.
Don't forget to undervolt your 6950xt and OC the Vram. It is a 8-10% fps increase for free.
I have the 6900xt since 2021 and i love it. With FSR and now Frame Generation, it is still a good 4k gpu.
FG in starfield or Avatar is very impressive.
i am upgrading from 1080 ti to 7900 xtx. An old beast to another beast. I an so excited looking at the charts going by the prices in the local market 7900 xtx is only 100 dollars more than 3090. and 400 dollars less than 4080 super.
Did you also upgrade your cpu, mobo etc etc or only the videocard?? 🤔🤔
@@thedutchfisherman7078 Not yet i still have my old 5600x with a b450m
@@ma-saracen ah ok. I'm not familiar with that cpu and mobo to be honest. Does the cpu not bottleneck with that videocard? 🤔
@@thedutchfisherman7078 it does but the bottleneck isnt that bad like i am not getting unplayable fps. I play warzone extreme settings and i am still above 190 fps
@@ma-saracen thats great to hear mate. 👍👍
I (still) have a GTX 1080 myself and was thinking to uograde and buy this Asus card too. But I have a i7 7700k and am worried for bottlenecking. I'm also thinking to upgrade my Eizo 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor. Hard choices.
I had massive issues with the early drivers for my 7900XT. FFXIV as an example would just crash every single time I tried to run it until the 23.7.1 drivers so for the first 6 months it was unusable for me and I switched back to the 3060 I had. After that release of I have had no real issues, some stuttering in some games due to the drivers but the normal fixes usually worked (DDU or rolling back to the last stable non-stuttery driver). Just as an aside I have had to do the same thing to fix stuttering in games with nvidia drivers as well so all the problems ive had with AMD drivers are not unique to a specific vendor.
I will always stand by my stance of the 7900 cards having come out 6-9 months too early. The idle power draw wasn't fixed for 9 months after the card came out and the drivers were super unstable for me for 6-7 months after I got my card. That just keeps feeding the meme of AMD drivers suck and we could all benefit if AMD didn't give people ammunition in that way.
Thanks for this very well done and comprehensive video. :) - I would assume other Radeon RX 7900-XTX's will perform similar to this model.
Thank you very much! :)
Yes, other RX 7900 XTX models should perform very similarly.
Of course, it used more power because it had more FPSS and CPU worked more. What about using 7800X3D instead of intel CPU?
i undervolt my 6800xt, it takes around 250w on load. maybe this one also benefit from undervolting
You might have to lower the clocks yourself if you do.
One thing about current gpu's is what happened to blowing hot air out of the case? Now it just dumps it inside towards the motherboard and the case door. If there isn't much clearance on the top of the GPU because the case door is blocking air flow you have a real problem. Not to mention you better have some good front to back air flow in the case to keep everything cool. And hopefully you have your m.2 nvme drives covered with a heat sink or it will burn them up since they sit right under this thing.
You can't measure power draw this way, it will increase with a faster GPU causing more CPU load.
24GBs will last you forever. The only problem is RT and DLSS, nanite and lumen. They will matter a lot for UE5 games
I've had one since launch. I also have an RX6700Xt in what is now my son's system. The RX6700XT is problem free but lots of driver problems with the RX7900XTX. Day to day lots of small issues and problems with driver updates. Yes, I've done the safe mode, DDU dance, and even a clean windows install. RDNA3 is very problematic for someone who seriously uses their PC (content creation and CAD work) and even just general windows functionality.
It's the worst upgrade I've ever made and I regret it so much. Next year I will be going back to team green for my main system regardless of price/performance.
If all I was doing was gaming with frequent reboots, it would be fine.
I know this curse too. The card is just unstable with certain driver revisions and games. To make it stop you usually have to lower the frame rate to 60 or something dumb like that. Really makes you look dumb when you spend three times the money and a 200$ card would average out to working better.
My 6700xt has been having driver issues since day 1 until today. Idk how yours was problem free but reading your review on 7900xtx, I should be going for 4080 super next. Thanks
Pretty weird ASUS only gives this high-end card a TUF version, not even a ROG Strix version like the previous RX 6900XT had...
Likely has to do with market share. They likely assume the Radeon buyers are already drawn to the lower pricing, and considering AMD only has a small slice of the pie, it wouldn't make sense to push their highest end card.
24gb of VRAM, 3200mhz+ boost clocks just by clicking a single button in the AMD Adrenaline software and the $1700-$2000 4090 being the only card with better raster, I'd say this is a damn good card and great high end value. The latest versions of FSR and AFMF are really doing well and these cards are seriously heavy hitters in todays gaming world. Why there is so much hate, I'm not sure. I feel like people root for cards like they do their favorite football team.
Im looking at buying one of these cards to replace my rtx 2080. Glad to see they are nuch inproved from older gpu
It's going for about 850 or below during sales now
RSR caused mine to crash alot, i turned it off and it now works like a dream
Just got this card for some guy that wanted to expend 1800€ on a 4090, got this 7900xtx asus tuf for 600€ just crazy cant believe it, great change so far came from a 3080
Sold my RTX 4090 and made 300 bucks. Landed a used 7900xtx for 475. Solid card overall. Pleased for my use case.
Asus 7900XTX TUF here. Great card. Had some crashing issues before I figured out how to fix it.
Maybe a Dumb question but How'd you fix it?
Did you fixed it? Planning to buy@@mr.flipflop2630
i also bought this card about 2 months ago for my new build. Honestly the 4090 is just stupidly priced for the average consumer! and yes I could afford it but I dont think a card like the 4090 should cost another thousand for just a small jump in performance just my opinion. I have had zero issues with this card runs like butter, super quiet, use it for DCS dont really care about DLSS, FSR works great for me! and ray tracing yeah its nice but is it an xtra $1000 bucks nice? not for me lol
I’m going to upgrade to a rx 7900 xtx from my rtx 2080 ti for VR
I upgraded early last year; at the time, 7900xtx was under £900. The 4070 12GP was, I think, around £800, and the 4080 was well north of £1200 in the UK. not a good time to get a GPU I end up getting myself a 7900XTX sapphire pulse; the extra X cost me a £100 at the time. Funny what you remember. As for raytracing the 7900XTX, its ray tracing performance is equal to 3090 more or less, and I have not sold on ray tracing for me the over all experance is better with turn off.
CPU 5800X3D, RAM 16GB X2 3600, Display 3440×1440 air cooler case, and CPU
Now, 7900XTX is well worth it. There has been no issue at all with temperature, hot spots, or power use, and AMD software has done its job. I have not had a single issue at all, and I would recommend any AMD card with over 16GB of VRAM, as I think this is what you need as games are getting more and more VRAM hungry and take memory bus and bandwidth into account, both of which can be bottlenecks.
Now 50% of the new games coming out are going to use Unreal Engine 5. So look at benchmarks for Unreal Engine 5 gaming before making the call for a new GPU you're getting yourself.
In the last part of your story you say "50% of the new games coming out are going to use Unreal Engine 5. So look at benchmarks for Unreal Engine 5 gaming before making the call for a new GPU you're getting yourself". When I google up what performance is for AMD and Nvidia when it comes down to UE5, I see that people say that AMD always have trouble with UE5. What is your view on this yourself? Your still happy with your 7900XTX?
Thanks!
@@stabilozzI got my 7900XTX around a year ago, So no regrets, The 7900XTX has a lot of raw performance, it should be ok. So with UE5 becoming such a common game engine, I do think that AMD will put time into supporting the UE5 engine. If I had gotten 4070 now, I would have felt a bit gutted due to the lack of VRAM and the fact that 40XX Supers are the GPU that 40xx should have been.
Ref 50% of UE5 games search Over half of all announced games for next-gen game consoles are being developed using Epic Games’ Unreal Engine suite of developer tools, Epic VP of engineering Nick Penwarden said in an interview with The Verge. I think number of you tube posts I spotted this on
Idle power consumption is ridiculously high - Nvidia sits at what, 10-20w? :)
Bought this exact same model 1 year ago to replace my 3080 (lacking VRAM at 10GB playing uw 1440p, shame on NVidia!)
Really happy with it, didn't had issues except the high "desktop consumption" for a few months, and very very few drivers crashes
My main gripe is that the cooling on the chip isn't really well done, sure average temp rarely reaches 70C but at 65C+ the hotspot tends to be +30C hotter at 95C+... Bad contact I suppose. This means fans have to work hard, so I dumped the VBIOS "Quiet" mode
Then the RT isn't great, in Cyberpunk I have roughly same RT perf than I had with the 3080 (but in raster it's +40%!), and PT is unplayable. But this is only an issue with a few very RT heavy games
But overall performance is stellar, even if it come at a cost of 420W+ power consumption at max PL +15% !
To nitpick a bit on specs, yes the 7900XTX mem speed is a bit slower than on a 4080S, but the bus size is 384 bit to 256, so texture rate is faster at 950GTex/sec to 800 on a 4080, this may explain why the 7900XTX is a bit faster than the 4080 in rasterization in some games
It’s an amazing card I have the gigabyte model the reason why I got it was because I didn’t care about ray tracing. Changed from a 3080 and the performance uplift was crazy. Even though the core temps were stable the hot spot if I leave it on default while playing returnal goes up to 110c which too high and the power consumption is too high. As much as I want to support AMD I will have to go team green again in the future .
Got the sapphire nitro+. OC+ undervolted it and my temps are 50°C maximum, 65°C hotspot and around 280-320W on full load.
I love my ASRock Taichi 7900xtx but there are problems with older games based on PhysX technology. Batman Arkham Asylum drops below 30 FPS, GPU is paired with Ryzen 7 5800x3d. I don't know how to solve it. Is it possible to run older Nvidia GPU as a PhysX card only?
I thought of something and I want you guys to think about it if AMD was in the same position as Nvidia would they be the same or would they be greedy? You have to remember that there’s no such thing as a good company only a good product AMD delivers on the promise of a good product, but the reason they do that is because they’re trying to get marketshare from the video if it was reversed AMD would look like the bad guy
No good company? All companies try to maximize profit, but some are downright scummy about it. Some are not. AMD makes so much tech open source. That's pretty good.
Nvidia has some pretty bad practices despite making a good product.
Apple intentionally makes their tech hard to repair & tries to keep parts from getting to 3rd party repair shops. Very scummy & horrible for the environment.
There's a shoe company that donates a pair of shoes to 3rd world people for every pair they sell. That's a good intentioned company.
Course they would. In fact both AMD and Nvidia admitted to restricting supply in order to keep prices high. They also pulled the same stunt Nvidia did by pushing a lower tier card as one tier higher. Nvidia eventually reversed course on this, but AMD didn't.
Furthermore, both CEOs are members of the same blood related family. Bad optics right there. AMD is no saint, they just have a smaller market share in certain markets and don't have the luxury to act like a market leader.
Yikes in some games the 7900xtx 1% lows almost drop to the same as the 3090. That would make for a jarring experience
Nice review. This GPU, if it was 700$ would be the Best on the market, simply by Value to Performance.
I know that wont happen, so lets be happy with a 20-30% slower GPU compared to the 1,600$ - to - 2,000$ card that can Burn down your house! :D
Haha, thank you! :D
This is the only card AMD got RT right. I think this is a sign that RT will improve vastly in RDNA4.
It's a tough decision but for me the value to performance AMD wins . What sways me is the fact that i play single player games only and love the high fidelity that ray tracing brings. FSR and DLSS are great tools for upscaling but native is where it's at in most situations for me. If i played competitive games lie COD and such I would go with the AMD cards because it's raw power and frames so the lower cost AMD wins.
1 year later my xtx is blowing himself apart with 2 random screen glitches for now, a lots of UE5 games errors that won't launch and 105 C° on hotspot but it's fine with the house on fire meme.
I'm going for 4090 so tired to be a tecnician with the amd's, i don't want to learn to open a pc shop repair, i just want to play games.
you may need to re paste the gpu. it sould be much cooler
@@AdamRogers yes this is after repaste, i used mx-4 pads and paste
@@bad_emil8945 may need to tinker. I mine with gpus. Non of them run that hot
@bad_emil8945 the mx 4 is really good stuff. Maybe screw pressure. Try remount. If that does not work slap a water cooler on it to see if the vapor chamber cooler is defective
I like how this card has a normal 3x power connectors instead of that stupid pig tail that looked like someone made it in their garage that is on the rtx 4080's
how could it draw more than what 3x8pins can give? i mean, i am not much of a computer geek, but i do know that each 8-pin is 150W each...so 3 of them would be 450w at most........so how did it do 500w? i am confused.
your PCI slot can draw another 75w
What about hotspot???? Is it at 80, 90 or 100+ at max?
I promise it’s not but the memory junction can hit 80
For me, the Radeon 7900XTX was a better value. It also uses 95w less power and comes with a type C port...and (at the time), no power cable issues.
AMD is the new Gaming king :)
Yes and no. :D
How much its consuption in video playback(TH-cam)???
Had one , drivers constantly crashing and no fixes helped. If i get a replacement card would it be fine on a 850w psu with the 7800x3d ? I dont think the issue was the psu but i wanna be sure
Maybe u have Ur PC Overclocked, ussually happens 😂
For me a reddit post helped. Opened the regestry and changed the value of "EnableULPS" from 1 to 0 + all Energy options to balanced. No driver timeouts ever since.
Did you remove foil on top od the card?
Do you have these driver timeouts?
Do they fix the high idle power?
I have a 7900 xtx powering two monitors a 1440p 175hz ultra wide and a 27 1080p 144hz no high idle power draw
mine use 60w for a 160hz 4k screen
It’s pretty much fixed but if both displays are high refresh rate idle power can be higher. Reducing one display to 120 or lower greatly reduces pwr use.
Yep, they did it a long time ago
@@gamepac7671 You sure about that? One of the downsides with using chiplets is the high idle power draw. We see this with the AMD CPUs as well. Would be surprised if this is actually fixed as opposed to made less bad.
The fact that Amazon let me pay over time for this card already puts them leagues above Nvidia
Nice one...thanks!
I'm still on a 6950xt
Great card!
Nothing wrong with that! That was the best card AMD ever released just a year and a half ago. Still a beast.
If you buy this card you’re buying an unfinished experiment. It’s unique and that made it a little problematic but it does perform and it does work. It’s just it won’t always work by default. Sometimes you have to wait on an update to solve an issue but there’s usually a work around or user error to eliminate and the driver update is just doing that for you without the guess work.
I first encountered this with my 5700xt and halo infinite when that was a thing the drivers sucked yea you just wait a couple months and try again 😂 it’s sad I got a 6700xt and it’s been smooth time to get a 7900xt and see if it’s a beast considering I only paid 500 for a 7900xt
Yes the value is worth the trouble most of the time I think.
what driver problems have you encountered with the 7900XTX specificially?
It’s a random driver time out/crash that seems to related to high utilization or going over 3ghz clock speed on the non reference cards. Sometimes it’ll be more prevalent depending on how the game pushes the card. Most of the time though it can rip ass no problem then just randomly crash. New games like helldivers2 or even the FSR3 starfield patch gave it hard time. World of Warcraft crashed about once a day. All of these things are fixed now.
@@quintrapnell3605 have you tried Avatar? , just wondering as my brother is pulling his hair out with constant crashing :(
so ur gpu was afk 1 year? where is cs2 test ?
U should bench the "video playback power consumption" too... AMD simply f*cked up in this category !
Last Gen's 6800 (and up) RDNA 2 GPUs & the new 7000 (RDNA 3) series have serious power issues @ video playback (TH-cam, Netflix, VLC etc.)
40+ W is stupidly HIGH & meaningless... and while the previous 6700 XT consumes only 16W, the new 7700 XT doubles that power draw with a whooping 33W on "video playback"
AMD should solve that power issue @ video playback at least in the next 8000 series. 🤔
- That's why I'm NOT UpGrading, I'll stay with RX 6700XT (RDNA 2) until the next Gen.
RDNA4 is perfect for you then. Leaks say they’re focused on mid range cards this time.
Its really not that bad unless power is expensive where you are
The Cyberpunk RT results seem Wrong, I have a XFX 7900XTX and im getting around 80FPS at Psycho RT with FSR quality and around 45fps with FSR off same RT in Cyberpunk ..and similar results with Linux..
RT degrades more than raster does when you use FSR. In my opinion it’s better looking in cyberpunk to just run native and turn RT off. In this game and in games before RT devs had to lighting work by “hand”. It looks better than RT with reduced light bounce’s because the pixels are missing and FSR artifacts are added. Just my opinion though. AMD ray tracing is just inferior software and hardware side.
@@quintrapnell3605 This is why nvidia made a big deal with DLSS 3.5 (Ray Reconstruction), it even improves performance. Nothing beats the Path Tracing with RR enabled.
This is because nvidia has better ray tracing and a better upscaler. I can’t point this out enough. Even if AMD had DLSS and the same frame rate as the nvidia GPU the way AMD does light bounce is inferior. When you combine this with FSR and the performance loss you really learn to stop using RT or you enjoy eating shit.
The title is misleading, thought you used it for à year to make à review
96W idle power consumption is unacceptable. XTX is far from being a great card.
I wish it would consume around 50 watts. Then I could buy it. Just to see its beauty, I don't need that much performance.
50 watts is laptop integrated graphics
Play PUBG and set the graphics setting to ULTRA. I guarantee you won't be able to play 3 matches without the drivers' timing out. 😅
I'd rather pay ten quid less for everything and never have horrid and pointless RGB on anything.
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Thank you!
Yes - Raytracing is still not viable for another 10yrs 🤣🤣 so I'll get a RADEON next time round 👍👍
Cyberpunk 2077 would like to have a word with you.
My RTX 4080 runs Cyberpunk with path tracing at 70fps average 1440p...
AMD RT looks and feels worse and there’s no AI to fill in the missing light bounces from the FSR.
@@deuswulf6193 Yes, with sub 60fps at 4k max Ray-Tracing on a £1800+ RTX 4090 🤣🤣 I think for most - Not 👍
@@mitsuhh 😎 cool, I'm running a 3440x1440 Ultra wide @ 💯 Hz and I still haven't tried Cyberpunk 2077 as I think it will be a bad experience on my 3080TI/5900X with Ray-Tracing turned up - I'm skipping the 4000 series & maybe pick up a 5000 series or RADEON (depending on what their value/performance is like) 👍
$900+ on a gpu with questionable performance in many DX11 titles, questionable performance/stability in newly released games, driver issues, subpar features like FSR and FSR3 FG, mediocre RayTracing, and lackluster content creation applications makes buying a high-end Radeon GPU very difficult. I think buying a 7900xtx in a few months when they inevitably hit $500-$600 is a much better decision. I think low-end/mid range AMD gpus present good value but AMD GPUs don't really offer a proper high-end experience worthy of $900+.
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A $1000 gpu with no Features..does poor in heavy raytracing titles & VR.. I’ll take 4080 super all day long!
@@brapclap1078 Only when you compare it to a 4090, but it loses that "great value" when you start comparing it to the 4080 super. Its also not just RT and VR, but productivity work and power efficiency as well.
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I won't buy another AMDip card again. Nvidia is greedy but works great
Okay Ngreedia fanboy
@user-lv8vp3hv1l yes I am am also an intel fan boy! That's why my pc performance is top class
Brother the AMDip is a cpu issue this is not a cpu video
@@toonnut1 Intel gets outperformed by AMD for gaming, and AMD beats Nvidia's performance at every price point they compete in. Not the brightest, are you?
@user-lv8vp3hv1l what's that got to do with AMDIP. Not the brightest are YOU 🤣🤡 AMDIP Definitely out performs intel & nvidia on dips 🤣🤣
@user-lv8vp3hv1l @user-lv8vp3hv1l no AMDip$h!t my 1st comment was about the AMDip. pay attention! you're "not very bright are you" I also said nvidia is greedy that doesn't mean they're good value for money like you brought into the conversation! The 4090 destroys anything AMDIP can make. And intel games better because you don't get any dips! I'll always keep buying nvidia and intel (until) AMDIP Remove the AMDIP. I'm not trying to convince anyone to move from AMDIP to intel or nvidia. You enjoy your dips, and I'll enjoy my smooth gameplay!
Bad fan, the reason why i stopped buying amd.
fan solutions are created by the manufacturers. ( ASUS, AsRock ext) Nvidia has the same problem.
@@AlaindeVries it is just out of experience, 4 out of my 5amd card since 2008 have fan problem, they don't produce quality fan, and they are from same manufacturer xfx. Also f that bald guy who reviews amd card, bought in his reviews and regretted it, and thats my last card xfx 685a, ever since i haven't touch amd. I'll take whatever that'll last for more than 4 years that'll give me a locked in 60fps-120. Right now 3080s doing fine with farthest frontiers at 1k pop.
Sapphire has replacement fans and you only need to remove one screw. They have the best RMA and only make AMD graphics cards.
Most of the card are sold by vendors. Some of those put cheap fans on there entry model that make more noise and die faster. The problem isn't exclusive to AMD either. Plenty of entry Nvidia card having the same issue. You should do your homework and read reviews of a particular card before you buy. Not afterwards..
I bought a 7900 xtx last week and the worst decision I everade this bs keeps crashing on games like Forza GTA and ratchet and clank and if u put ray tracing? Ooo boy this is surely a disappointment 1000bucks I'll never get back
Yes. All AMD cards crash like crash on the Forza Horizon series. They're terrible. Pretty strange given that the consoles run on the same architecture.
@@iancurrie8844 yeah and the worst part is that when I installed it it got stuck in my motherboard and when I tried to take it out the clip of the mobo broke and now I literally got that GPU stuck in there
i bought a 4070 ti super and the disappointment is bigger because they are marketing the ray tracing when they cant handle it giga trash at least with amd you know you are getting bad ray tracing so i dont understand the disappointment at least the card is stable and i like the dldsr dlss combo but the ray tracing ahahhah rtx btw
Let's be honest both brands have their issues, when you talk about the magnitude of hardware they have to be compatible with and the amount of driver work that requires... there are going to be hiccups.
The reason consoles don't have the same issue (for the most part) it's a static set of hardware and software.
There's a price for being on the cutting edge which is always what PC has been. If you don't like to tinker... then pc is probably not the right platform for you.
im not saying that im dissapointed of not be able to play ray tracing im dissapointed because my 1000dollar graphics card literally shut down the whole pc while playing in only 1080p@@VASILISPAGOURAS7
Pc gaming is an absolute joke. The ps5 pro will have probably a 7800xt equivalent, 2tb ssd, cpu motherboard, controller all for $600.
Still will be capped at 30 fps tho
simply not true
I'll make it easy for you:
If Raytracing/Production matters to you then choose Nvidia. If those things DONT matter to you, go with AMD.
Currently on a 7800xt with zero driver issues. Going to be upgrading to the 7900 xtx in a few weeks.
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