Me (an American) looking at my turbo 400 trans that costs me a ham sandwich and a cherry ICEE from 7 Eleven and telling myself I don’t need another project lol
Love the fact you say the controllers don't work that well. I heard similar from one other guy in conversation and whenever I asked the question online the internet gets angry.
dont work well WITH MECHANICAL PUMP. Thats very important point since you could put a programmable ecu into it like dsl1 and with ofgear controller they work well as much as i have heard.
Thanks for posting such amazing transmission choice content. It's very good to hear from personal experiences, not internet stories. Some of your best factory choices are impossible to find, here in Canada. Thankfully, some of your top autos easier to come by. :)
On the automatic trans e control you can use a drive by wire pedal that will provide one of the signal needed, a rpm signal tru generator can be used. The other is a vehicle speed, and that is all you need
Had this channel been an American channel: Loads of stupid jokes; loads of stupid editing transitions; know-at-all-lism; ...I can go on and on. Man, DieselPumpUk is by far the best informative channel i've seen in years. Your products and creations seems to be top notch. If I get me a G-wagon 90's or older, i'm definitely going to be your loyal customer. So happy I've found you guys. Cheers!!!
So for a manual, a T56 six speed is a great overall choice. Great. If one is going 5 speed, Tremec recently released the TKX, which is like a swap friendly version of the TKO. I haven't checked in a long time, but I know of an old Dodge truck in need of a rescue. The OM606 is a great diesel option when the Cummins 2.8R is too small, but a 6BT is too heavy. The OM606 is E300 CDI rare where I live, though, so getting any version of the engine would be pricey. But one can dream, no? Came here partially because of Team Boosted with their diesel powered Z-car.
You might consider a GM TH200, slightly larger than a TH 350 and used in Buick Grand Nationals Turbo V-6. among others. Close ratio 4 speed with .67 overdrive, no electronic, fully hydraulic trans. Art Carr at CPT can build them all the way up to 1000hp level but for the 400hp level only minor mods needed. Millions made during the 80s and 90s here in the US. By the way have you ever considered a compound Turbo. Quick Spool but very high boost is possible. A very popular and pretty common upgrade on Cummins Diesels here.
I have a 1975 Jeep Cherokee chief with a Quadra trac & th400 I’m wanting to use a Benz diesel for bout 300-350hp I would like some good torque for towing Wasn’t what engine for would work without major mods as I’m not a good mechanic 🤣🤣
I emailed them about compound turbos and they basically said they're not interested in them because the engine already spools quickly. I figure things can always get better lol
Hell yeah thanks for this video and examples for the actual set ups. My buddy and I can't wait to get our hands on one of those 606s and put it in an American classic! Love your channel (#nobrohomo) and keep up the killer work!
What about the combination 722.6 electrically controlled behind the motor running off Baldur's ECU driving the original om606 edc pump? Seems like there's so much potential with the 722.6 if the control is just refined well enough
You can get a standalone controller for the 722.6, I have one in a box still from PCS with the whole pigtail and the gearbox connector or use OFGear controller. Never got around to putting a 722.6 in my W124 before I sold it, but that means I have a spare for my w211 with the OM648 in it.
@@lilbHEMI I think he dont know that, show me what project hes having 722.6 trans and where he done something on that? hes just refereing on stock transmission... You can do a lot whit thoes trans, if you look mayby @turbobandit videos, there is +1000hp mb and they use only 722.6 transmission because thoes can handle it.
Enjoyed the video as usual. I wondered if there was a transaxle that would suit the 606 in 400-500 hp .just mulling over some ideas. Loving the channel 👍
There is a russian guy who lives in Sweden and he tunes the 3.2 petrol inline 6 Merc engine to 1000 HP. He said that he had problems with snapped drive shafts, toothed diffs, etc when using a manual transmission. He changed to auto and with stock diff and drive shaft it's going strong over 3 years and no problems at all. Factory BMW 530D also wasn't available with manual transmission. I think at BMW they wasn't fancy to change a bunch of drive shafts in warranty. If you can't have a manual, you can't dump the clutch, and that's what kills everything behind the transmission,and I'm not talking about starting at the lights. Just dumping it whilst you shift from 4th. to 5th. can shorten the lifetime or kill it instantly.
How would a jeep's aw4 with a proper standalone tcu fair? Compushifts tcu offers a cable actuated throttle position sensor. Designed for diesel swaps with mechanical pumps. Would this be a trustworthy setup? Be nice to keep the factory transmission and transfer case.
in places that didnt get the om606, e.g. australia got 20 of them total apparently, someone exporting them from the uk? cant imagine international shipping would be too good for an engine of that size but, im a curious australian.
Really good material you are producing here, I have a 2014 Sprinter L2H1 316cdi 4x4 is the om606 the best engine also in a Sprinter if one would like to make it last forever? Looking for 2-300hp lots of torque and probably a auto transmission so that it would stay on the torque curve better. Like to hear your professional opinion in my case, thanks.
Thank you for your time donated to automotive enthusiastic community! This is a very informative video, I wander, did i miss any vids about G class tranfer cases? I am contemplating to convert my 2002 500g with M113 5L gasoline and 722.6 gear box with 750 transfer case. As a donor I got 1999 OM 606 with 722.6 automatic, my Q is any options or kits a to make auto electric TC shifting motor to a manual, as far as my understanding of this is a making instead a plastic splined shifting rod into alu or ss rod and shifter cable? If you will be kind to give me a suggestion, it will be great! Am I going wrong direction? Regards!
Recommendations for trans fluid,,, Syn? VS Dino fluid, brands, and trans coolers. USA heat issues are real and kill transmissions on the regular. Thanks for the info better than any sales video you could make.
Have you ever looked into options for New Venture 4500 (5-spd) & 5600 (6-spd) manuals that you find in a lot of Dodge trucks and some GM trucks mostly from 1994 to 2007, the Mercedes G56 manual trans that you find in the newer Dodge diesel trucks mostly from 2007 to 2016 and the ZF5 and ZF6 that you find in some Ford diesel trucks. I didn't see any adapter kits for potential projects on the american/canadian side of the pond ;)
Great video thankyou luke! One question i have that u never answered is......What about the heavy duty 722.6 with the dsl 1 ecu and ofgear controller.......I ask because a) where im from rolling coal all the time going to bring problems from leo B) being able to have a couple of maps at the flick of a switch one for say off road use only😛 and one for economy/low smoke is a huge benefit and will not draw as much attention to a 400bhp om606.............i also like the flappy paddles(tiptronics)u can get with 722. So whats your advise im possitive many others wont want the restriction of the mechanical pump single setting while driving, i know I sacrifice its simplicity but its not worth it where im from a dual mapped ecu application is best
@DieselPumpUK I'm looking to go for a mild setup at least for now and I'm curious about the 400hp bracket. you mentioned that the 722.6 will take it stock you just dont use them because of ecu controlled problems when converting to Mechanical pump's. Now my question is are you saying that a stock 722.6 from a say 99 e300td will take 400hp? because if so I should be completely fine since I'm only looking to make around 300hp with one of your hybrid turbos and maxing out the stock pump.
I just got my 190e 2.0 automatic , but I’m thinking of a OM606 swap and make it a manual. The transmittion that I saw were the 53DZ / BZ , as well as the T56 magnum. Anyone here who have done a swap / changed the transmittion from an auto to a manual , any tips / suggestion are appreciated
@@erikkovacs3097 It is totally tunable. You just need a good controller. These guys do not want to troubleshoot the transmission control, so they do other stuff.
Dont think your accurate there friend.........some 722.6..... are used in those v12 applications but not all, those that where have stronger internals and are numbered differently in the last didgets i think.......pls correct me if im wrong im learning too!
My concern is chatter, would having the ZF with your adapter or CD009 have excessive chatter? The 6 spd CLK trans has the option of going with the dual mass flywheel, however according to your chart it won't be suitable for a 450-hp setup. I was hoping we could get a video one day on flywheel/chatter sounds from the adapters you offer? Would really love to go with your ZF kit for the 606
Looking into these swaps again and this video is pretty convenient, CD009 seems like a really affordable option here so I was wondering what your flywheels for that swap weigh. They look fairly thick which makes me worry that it might have too much rotational inertia for what I want. If I need to I can probably make my own adapter kit for a thinner flywheel lol.
I have a 1975 jeep Cherokee chief with a amc360 th400 with Quadra trac dana44 front & back I’m wanting to swap the 360 for a om606 maybe looking for 300-350 hp & good torque I’m keeping the th400 & Quadra trac system looking for ideas not sure if I have to buy a engine premoded or if I can get one out of a used car & not have to mod too much not a good mechanic but I try🤣🤣🤣
How much are the om606 and the gearbox plus any other things needed for a convertion of a Shogun/Pajero? Has anyone put this in a Mitsubishi Shogun/Pajero?
Budget clutch kit torque level is quite low maybe 300-400lbft, if we are building anything fruity then we always use our performance clutch kit which is massively stronger.
@@DieselPumpUK i want a complete conversation kit i want to convert a jeep grand Cherokee 2012 3ltr crd can you built it for me and how much can it cost
I know there's plenty of difference, still I would like to hear why someone would choose this instead of a cummins 24 valve from the same era. The 606 would be lighter and more efficient due to being ohc. But maybe the cummins will last longer at 400ph 800 tq?
So, what is the appropriate automatic transmission for a G-wagen with OM606, around 350hp. I'd use the G300D as a daily driver; occasional off-road, camping, hunting; and regular towing of about 2.5 tonnes? This question assumes switching the IP from electrical to the OM603 mechanical pump. If keeping and updating the electrical OEM IP to allow 350 HP, then would upgrading to the 722.636, strengthened internals, better conductor plate, and an OFgear transmission controller be appropriate? My question boils down to what is the appropriate transmission for OM606: 1.) ~350hp with the OM603 mechanical IP and 2.) ~350hp with an upgraded OM606 electrical IP?
What about an NSG370? I for a 300hp engine? I am wanting to put on in my jk and would like to retain stock gearbox and tcase for exemplary crawling gearing.
Do you make a GM manual adapter that will have 12” clutch capacity? I am very interested in a om606 in a 4WD application. Nv4500 12” clutch compatibility. Excellent and very informative videos, by the way!
4L80E is a good trans, transgo HD2 kit, and dual feed the forward clutch, and pick your converter. It's very popular behind turbo LS combinations in the states.
@@randymagnum143 pfffft, sure. $2000 dollars of billet shafts, and a TPS glitch/ noise,.and poof! Done. Trans shops love em' because Cummins power eats 'em like potato chips when you're high. I know this because.... I have worked at a trans shop / driveline specialist for years, but whatever.....
@@jamesgeorge4874 anything that makes peak torque just off idle is hard to deal with. The VE pump was bad because it could be set to a fueling, and when the rpm was pulled down, the torque rise was incredible. Look at the Nebraska tests for tractors like the 120 White. A 4l80E will not stand up to stock horsepower levels from a 6bt. Not enough clutch pressure at low rpm. There is a kit to bolt the Mopar Trans in your Ford or GM. They will handle power.
@@randymagnum143 Yeah, no T400/4L80E has ever held power, ever. Since you can only make a 727 hold power. There isn't 10 guys making 1000 hp with LS engines, for every 2guys making 500 with a Cummins, and even mother Mopar puts a ZF 8speed behind their most powerful Hemi, and the 48 was dropped in 07, and a whole industry has popped up, making millions on failure prone garbage transmissions, but yeah, they are the best!!!! Lololol, keep drinking the kool aid, bro.
Hi grate video, do you think I can upgrade a 722.6 with an after market TCU and stronger parts up to 1000 HP, unfortunately there is not much I can get from where I live! Maybe the fly wheel torque converter etc...
i hope he responds but i know a few guys running 300+hp 5.9 cummins with a nv4500 and no problems. so based on the torque numbers i would make the assumption that a 500ish hp 606 would probably be ok. there arent a ton of nv4500's in europe so there probably arent a ton of people running that combo.
What about a billet internal upgraded 6R80 transmission with a standalone transmission controller with a billet triple disc torque converter. Behind a 600bhp om606.
Why not make a small block Chevy adapter that uses small block Chevy flywheels/flex plates so it can be used on any Chevy transmission even the new 10L90e 10 speed that usshift is making a controller for?
@@DieselPumpUK Oh I was thinking of something like TDconversions who make adapters for the VW TDI and BMW M57. They use the stock flex plate and the same starter across their entire line.
I'm surprised you didn't mess with the Chrysler 3 speed autos like the 727 or 904/998/999 as they have a mechanical kickdown. The newer 4 speeds like the 500 and 518 can be a bit flakey due to the "bolt on" 4th gear, cheaper parts, and fluid compatibility.
from research ive done getrag isnt amazing. idk where youre located but im in the states doing a 124 build. i bought a zf6 37dz and had it shipped here for less than $400
As a rule in the gas world more hp means less mpg, is it the same in diesel? I'd like a 400-500 HP dailyable 0M606 in a 1984 Chevy 4 door long bed. What kind of fuel economy could I expect with a 6 speed behind it?
How much for the OM606 engine? I need one to build my Y61 Nissan Patrol. Had the horrendous 3.0 ZD30 had a blown heads. What do I need to know about the build? How much change do I need to do from the standard/manufacture setup of the nissan Patrol, I have the 5speed TD42 gearbox, where can I find the adapter plate? How much does it cost? Does the standard Y61 ZD30 cluster run with the build?
off-topic, what would the effect be if you had a no2 line into a suitable glowplug hole fitting and was open during an acceleration run? so rather than port injection it would still be injecting after the inlet valves have closed but of course, still running when the exhaust valves are open and help drive the turbo with the waste no2/ reduce smoke.
I'm trying to keep an awd transaxle setup in a 2004 subaru legacy automatic with a 600hp om606. What would you recommend? Is there an adapter plate for the subaru transaxle?
Would a 5-6 speed mercedes gasoline gearbox (from SLK/ W203) be able to be upgraded to handle 276 hp / 385 nm tq? (C36 AMG) Or is it necessary to have the diesel box?
hy there!! you are sick men ! i am a patrol lover , and when a whatch your videos with the om606 turbo in it !!!! dammm !!! the td42 gearbox will handel the om606 engine ??
This is a Longshot. Is there a shop you work with on the West Coast USA that you can recommend to upgrade my 99 E300... Love the channel. Crazy interactions with the EPA and the tuning world. Want to get it done before they change the rules
That would be nice to know. I have looked around and have not found anybody in Washington or Oregon that would build a OM603 pump for me. Either they won’t touch it or only do stock.
@@cullenmiller8170 I started buying all the 606 cars I could find as I have a large boat I want to convert to the 606's for marine use. You are right. No help what so ever.
@@thereissomecoolstuff look into metric motors, they offer fully rebuilt merc and other euro motors. I'm sure if you ponied up the cash they would do a rebuild to your specs.
What manual transmissions can i swap into my W124 E300D? What cars have transmissions that bolt right on? Keep in mind e300’s are rare in the states which is why im looking for options
I thought the 722.608 was rated at about 330 Nm, but it can take 250hp from a 606? Thanks for the info btw, I was not into diesel at all before your video, but I now consider buying a w210 300td
Me (an American) looking at my turbo 400 trans that costs me a ham sandwich and a cherry ICEE from 7 Eleven and telling myself I don’t need another project lol
You guys make me want an old merc diesel 😂
Is there a reason Toyota Land Cruiser gear box’s don’t get a mention ? R150f .
+1
Buy one and rebuild it 👌🏻
@@gazedmo no clue. theyd survive no problem
Love the fact you say the controllers don't work that well. I heard similar from one other guy in conversation and whenever I asked the question online the internet gets angry.
dont work well WITH MECHANICAL PUMP. Thats very important point since you could put a programmable ecu into it like dsl1 and with ofgear controller they work well as much as i have heard.
I bought Mercedes c300 d. For om606 engine, watching your videos. I am loving it already , even tough it needs lot of work. Keep up the good work.
put scania holset and pump with 10mm elements
Thanks for posting such amazing transmission choice content.
It's very good to hear from personal experiences, not internet stories. Some of your best factory choices are impossible to find, here in Canada. Thankfully, some of your top autos easier to come by. :)
On the automatic trans e control you can use a drive by wire pedal that will provide one of the signal needed, a rpm signal tru generator can be used. The other is a vehicle speed, and that is all you need
Love this video. I want to om606 swap everything and your videos are so helpful!
A lot of people recommend OFGear gearbox controllers with the 722.6 auto transmission.
Had this channel been an American channel: Loads of stupid jokes; loads of stupid editing transitions; know-at-all-lism; ...I can go on and on. Man, DieselPumpUk is by far the best informative channel i've seen in years. Your products and creations seems to be top notch. If I get me a G-wagon 90's or older, i'm definitely going to be your loyal customer. So happy I've found you guys. Cheers!!!
this yellow paint on engine makes it look beast heavy duty caterpillar machine 😳
I’d vote for you for PM.
You know your stuff and you’re honest!
… and entertaining!
So for a manual, a T56 six speed is a great overall choice. Great.
If one is going 5 speed, Tremec recently released the TKX, which is like a swap friendly version of the TKO.
I haven't checked in a long time, but I know of an old Dodge truck in need of a rescue. The OM606 is a great diesel option when the Cummins 2.8R is too small, but a 6BT is too heavy.
The OM606 is E300 CDI rare where I live, though, so getting any version of the engine would be pricey.
But one can dream, no?
Came here partially because of Team Boosted with their diesel powered Z-car.
That was a good video and it confirms for me that using the 722.6 is the best option, thank you
Is 722.6 direct fit on om606? I have G350 w463 That I want to convert to 606.
Following you guys over here in the States. Really want to do an om606 85 f150 swap
Im the same way man I want to put one in my 93 f150 but they are so hard to find
You might consider a GM TH200, slightly larger than a TH 350 and used in Buick Grand Nationals Turbo V-6. among others. Close ratio 4 speed with .67 overdrive, no electronic, fully hydraulic trans. Art Carr at CPT can build them all the way up to 1000hp level but for the 400hp level only minor mods needed. Millions made during the 80s and 90s here in the US. By the way have you ever considered a compound Turbo. Quick Spool but very high boost is possible. A very popular and pretty common upgrade on Cummins Diesels here.
I have a 1975 Jeep Cherokee chief with a Quadra trac & th400 I’m wanting to use a Benz diesel for bout 300-350hp I would like some good torque for towing
Wasn’t what engine for would work without major mods as I’m not a good mechanic 🤣🤣
I emailed them about compound turbos and they basically said they're not interested in them because the engine already spools quickly.
I figure things can always get better lol
Hell yeah thanks for this video and examples for the actual set ups. My buddy and I can't wait to get our hands on one of those 606s and put it in an American classic!
Love your channel (#nobrohomo) and keep up the killer work!
What about the combination 722.6 electrically controlled behind the motor running off Baldur's ECU driving the original om606 edc pump? Seems like there's so much potential with the 722.6 if the control is just refined well enough
You can get a standalone controller for the 722.6, I have one in a box still from PCS with the whole pigtail and the gearbox connector or use OFGear controller. Never got around to putting a 722.6 in my W124 before I sold it, but that means I have a spare for my w211 with the OM648 in it.
Haven't got any notification of your uploads in ages, even with the bell on.
722.6 you can use ofgear arter market TCU for transmission control, you dont need ECU for that because it handle all thoes.
Yeah, Luke knows, he showed it in his previous projects. I think that is the "issue" he is refereing to. Luke if u read this, let us know please.
@@lilbHEMI I think he dont know that, show me what project hes having 722.6 trans and where he done something on that? hes just refereing on stock transmission... You can do a lot whit thoes trans, if you look mayby @turbobandit videos, there is +1000hp mb and they use only 722.6 transmission because thoes can handle it.
i love love watching your videos so informative
Enjoyed the video as usual. I wondered if there was a transaxle that would suit the 606 in 400-500 hp .just mulling over some ideas.
Loving the channel 👍
There is a russian guy who lives in Sweden and he tunes the 3.2 petrol inline 6 Merc engine to 1000 HP. He said that he had problems with snapped drive shafts, toothed diffs, etc when using a manual transmission. He changed to auto and with stock diff and drive shaft it's going strong over 3 years and no problems at all.
Factory BMW 530D also wasn't available with manual transmission. I think at BMW they wasn't fancy to change a bunch of drive shafts in warranty. If you can't have a manual, you can't dump the clutch, and that's what kills everything behind the transmission,and I'm not talking about starting at the lights. Just dumping it whilst you shift from 4th. to 5th. can shorten the lifetime or kill it instantly.
You are right, SHOCK breaks things, not usually gross torque, and never gross horsepower. Torque converters save a lot of headaches. Less fun, though.
Just weld it back together and send it
How would a jeep's aw4 with a proper standalone tcu fair? Compushifts tcu offers a cable actuated throttle position sensor. Designed for diesel swaps with mechanical pumps. Would this be a trustworthy setup? Be nice to keep the factory transmission and transfer case.
om 606 adventure, hello
very interesting coverage
in places that didnt get the om606, e.g. australia got 20 of them total apparently, someone exporting them from the uk? cant imagine international shipping would be too good for an engine of that size but, im a curious australian.
Brilliant, what an amazing channel, definitely mechanical merc over bm for us.
Really good material you are producing here, I have a 2014 Sprinter L2H1 316cdi 4x4 is the om606 the best engine also in a Sprinter if one would like to make it last forever? Looking for 2-300hp lots of torque and probably a auto transmission so that it would stay on the torque curve better. Like to hear your professional opinion in my case, thanks.
We have done a 8hp75 8 speed auto swap to a w210 that is the perfect gearbox mate...
What’s involved and where you had adaptor from ?
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@@rcsterio hey bro
@@jamesgeorge4874 arround 2700€ depending on the gearbox price, including adaptor, turbolamik controller and gearbox
ever try a compound setup at the 600hp range to pick up better power down low.
You get bent rods easier with high boost low rpm
Good question.
Thank you for your time donated to automotive enthusiastic community!
This is a very informative video, I wander, did i miss any vids about G class tranfer cases?
I am contemplating to convert my 2002 500g with M113 5L gasoline and 722.6 gear box with
750 transfer case. As a donor I got 1999 OM 606 with 722.6 automatic, my Q is any options or kits a to make auto electric TC shifting motor to a manual, as far as my understanding of this is a making instead a plastic splined shifting rod into alu or ss rod and shifter cable?
If you will be kind to give me a suggestion, it will be great! Am I going wrong direction?
Regards!
Recommendations for trans fluid,,, Syn? VS Dino fluid, brands, and trans coolers. USA heat issues are real and kill transmissions on the regular. Thanks for the info better than any sales video you could make.
Fluid brand isn't the issue, cooling is, so you'd need a bigger trans cooler
Great informative video dude. Cheers. Would love to put one of these wee engines in my 80 series landcruiser
cant wait for a video with a om648/om613 and using the 37dz adapter plate u guys just made!
Thinking of putting it on a 190e with a om648 😃
Have you ever looked into options for New Venture 4500 (5-spd) & 5600 (6-spd) manuals that you find in a lot of Dodge trucks and some GM trucks mostly from 1994 to 2007, the Mercedes G56 manual trans that you find in the newer Dodge diesel trucks mostly from 2007 to 2016 and the ZF5 and ZF6 that you find in some Ford diesel trucks. I didn't see any adapter kits for potential projects on the american/canadian side of the pond ;)
Cool thanks for sharing your experiences 👍
Excellent as usual.
Great video thankyou luke! One question i have that u never answered is......What about the heavy duty 722.6 with the dsl 1 ecu and ofgear controller.......I ask because a) where im from rolling coal all the time going to bring problems from leo
B) being able to have a couple of maps at the flick of a switch one for say off road use only😛 and one for economy/low smoke is a huge benefit and will not draw as much attention to a 400bhp om606.............i also like the flappy paddles(tiptronics)u can get with 722. So whats your advise im possitive many others wont want the restriction of the mechanical pump single setting while driving, i know I sacrifice its simplicity but its not worth it where im from a dual mapped ecu application is best
@DieselPumpUK I'm looking to go for a mild setup at least for now and I'm curious about the 400hp bracket. you mentioned that the 722.6 will take it stock you just dont use them because of ecu controlled problems when converting to Mechanical pump's. Now my question is are you saying that a stock 722.6 from a say 99 e300td will take 400hp? because if so I should be completely fine since I'm only looking to make around 300hp with one of your hybrid turbos and maxing out the stock pump.
I just got my 190e 2.0 automatic , but I’m thinking of a OM606 swap and make it a manual. The transmittion that I saw were the 53DZ / BZ , as well as the T56 magnum.
Anyone here who have done a swap / changed the transmittion from an auto to a manual , any tips / suggestion are appreciated
Mercedes 722.6 are really good for auto they are used in the amg and v12 benzes cause they can handle 700lbs of torque stock
Yeah but he just said "they need an external controller and they become unreliable, so we don't use them"
@@erikkovacs3097 It is totally tunable. You just need a good controller. These guys do not want to troubleshoot the transmission control, so they do other stuff.
@@kwittnebel Well the point was this guy commented before he even watched the whole video. But the real question is who can tune the 722.9?
Dont think your accurate there friend.........some 722.6..... are used in those v12 applications but not all, those that where have stronger internals and are numbered differently in the last didgets i think.......pls correct me if im wrong im learning too!
Did you mention the 716 transmission? Manual 6speed
My concern is chatter, would having the ZF with your adapter or CD009 have excessive chatter? The 6 spd CLK trans has the option of going with the dual mass flywheel, however according to your chart it won't be suitable for a 450-hp setup. I was hoping we could get a video one day on flywheel/chatter sounds from the adapters you offer? Would really love to go with your ZF kit for the 606
Yes I was always getting told off at school for chatting to much.
@@DieselPumpUK 🤣 been told that myself
I really woulda like to see other transmissions. Like the jeep stuff.
Om603, nv3550 and a ford ranger, thats my plan.
Yall should do a adapter for nv4500 nv5500 for dodges cumins. Those standards will hold 600hp and 1200tq.
Well got a 29-3200 stall w/ lockup on the way for my 4l80e. Custom 62/67 he351, 40mm turbo smart on your stainless manifold. Should be wild.
Oh the things I’d do to get that green charger.
Looking into these swaps again and this video is pretty convenient, CD009 seems like a really affordable option here so I was wondering what your flywheels for that swap weigh. They look fairly thick which makes me worry that it might have too much rotational inertia for what I want. If I need to I can probably make my own adapter kit for a thinner flywheel lol.
Super educational! Now...i want an om606 powered car lmao
Mt82 from a ford ranger pick up 3.2 puma is good for a 400 to 500hp
I have a 1975 jeep Cherokee chief with a amc360 th400 with Quadra trac dana44 front & back
I’m wanting to swap the 360 for a om606 maybe looking for 300-350 hp & good torque I’m keeping the th400 & Quadra trac system looking for ideas not sure if I have to buy a engine premoded or if I can get one out of a used car & not have to mod too much not a good mechanic but I try🤣🤣🤣
How much are the om606 and the gearbox plus any other things needed for a convertion of a Shogun/Pajero? Has anyone put this in a Mitsubishi Shogun/Pajero?
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I'd love to know the torque capacity of your budget manual recommendation (MB 6-speed, clutch kit).
As you still can use a 716.667 with a M113 E55 (55 AMG) it should take 500nM.
Budget clutch kit torque level is quite low maybe 300-400lbft, if we are building anything fruity then we always use our performance clutch kit which is massively stronger.
@@DieselPumpUK i want a complete conversation kit i want to convert a jeep grand Cherokee 2012 3ltr crd can you built it for me and how much can it cost
I know there's plenty of difference, still I would like to hear why someone would choose this instead of a cummins 24 valve from the same era. The 606 would be lighter and more efficient due to being ohc. But maybe the cummins will last longer at 400ph 800 tq?
I have 430hp 722.628 gearbox and ofgear controller whit maxed out line pressure
Can you make a video on the om617 with 300 hp, and build specs, fully mechanical, no computers.
Built for a small truck, ford ranger ect...
3:33 what video is this from ?
So, what is the appropriate automatic transmission for a G-wagen with OM606, around 350hp. I'd use the G300D as a daily driver; occasional off-road, camping, hunting; and regular towing of about 2.5 tonnes? This question assumes switching the IP from electrical to the OM603 mechanical pump. If keeping and updating the electrical OEM IP to allow 350 HP, then would upgrading to the 722.636, strengthened internals, better conductor plate, and an OFgear transmission controller be appropriate?
My question boils down to what is the appropriate transmission for OM606: 1.) ~350hp with the OM603 mechanical IP and 2.) ~350hp with an upgraded OM606 electrical IP?
I’m going to use my th400 in my fsj because I want to keep my Quadra trac all wheel drive
Grate video guys nice bit of info there would love to see some more footage of that w211 I love them cars 👌
Question 🙋♂️ can you make a video of how to install a 4l80 on a om606 ?
What about an NSG370? I for a 300hp engine? I am wanting to put on in my jk and would like to retain stock gearbox and tcase for exemplary crawling gearing.
Great information thanks
Do you make a GM manual adapter that will have 12” clutch capacity? I am very interested in a om606 in a 4WD application. Nv4500 12” clutch compatibility. Excellent and very informative videos, by the way!
Not for a 12inch clutch but we can custom build any adapter for you, we just ask that you send us the transmission and throw out assembly.
4L80E is a good trans, transgo HD2 kit, and dual feed the forward clutch, and pick your converter. It's very popular behind turbo LS combinations in the states.
What about the Aussie for l60e can be changed to full manual 3 wire changes
47re and 48re are stronger.
@@randymagnum143 pfffft, sure. $2000 dollars of billet shafts, and a TPS glitch/ noise,.and poof! Done. Trans shops love em' because Cummins power eats 'em like potato chips when you're high. I know this because.... I have worked at a trans shop / driveline specialist for years, but whatever.....
@@jamesgeorge4874 anything that makes peak torque just off idle is hard to deal with. The VE pump was bad because it could be set to a fueling, and when the rpm was pulled down, the torque rise was incredible. Look at the Nebraska tests for tractors like the 120 White.
A 4l80E will not stand up to stock horsepower levels from a 6bt. Not enough clutch pressure at low rpm.
There is a kit to bolt the Mopar Trans in your Ford or GM. They will handle power.
@@randymagnum143 Yeah, no T400/4L80E has ever held power, ever. Since you can only make a 727 hold power. There isn't 10 guys making 1000 hp with LS engines, for every 2guys making 500 with a Cummins, and even mother Mopar puts a ZF 8speed behind their most powerful Hemi, and the 48 was dropped in 07, and a whole industry has popped up, making millions on failure prone garbage transmissions, but yeah, they are the best!!!! Lololol, keep drinking the kool aid, bro.
Hi grate video, do you think I can upgrade a 722.6 with an after market TCU and stronger parts up to 1000 HP, unfortunately there is not much I can get from where I live! Maybe the fly wheel torque converter etc...
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Any experience or thoughts on an NV-4500 for an off-roading manual applications?
i hope he responds but i know a few guys running 300+hp 5.9 cummins with a nv4500 and no problems. so based on the torque numbers i would make the assumption that a 500ish hp 606 would probably be ok. there arent a ton of nv4500's in europe so there probably arent a ton of people running that combo.
Yes more than happy to build you a kit for that.
He probably already sells it. As the NV4500 will be a Dodge or Chevy bell housing.
Bear in mind that there a few different versions on NV4500, some good, some bad.
What about a billet internal upgraded 6R80 transmission with a standalone transmission controller with a billet triple disc torque converter. Behind a 600bhp om606.
Superb info! Thanks!
Why not make a small block Chevy adapter that uses small block Chevy flywheels/flex plates so it can be used on any Chevy transmission even the new 10L90e 10 speed that usshift is making a controller for?
remember these guys are UK based , chevy transmissions are not in every scrapyard / junkyard here
Using the stock flex plate means cobbling lots of different parts together which I don’t consider professional.
@@DieselPumpUK Oh I was thinking of something like TDconversions who make adapters for the VW TDI and BMW M57. They use the stock flex plate and the same starter across their entire line.
I'm surprised you didn't mess with the Chrysler 3 speed autos like the 727 or 904/998/999 as they have a mechanical kickdown. The newer 4 speeds like the 500 and 518 can be a bit flakey due to the "bolt on" 4th gear, cheaper parts, and fluid compatibility.
Any advice on getrag/Toyota/Mitsubishi gearboxes? I really like the OM606 engines, maybe in a near future I will like to buy a kit.
from research ive done getrag isnt amazing. idk where youre located but im in the states doing a 124 build. i bought a zf6 37dz and had it shipped here for less than $400
If it’s not a kit we list then you can send me your transmission for us to custom build one for you.
@@DieselPumpUK I would like but I'm in Costa Rica, I rather buy than send, which im planning to do because the costs may be involved. Thanks!
As a rule in the gas world more hp means less mpg, is it the same in diesel?
I'd like a 400-500 HP dailyable 0M606 in a 1984 Chevy 4 door long bed. What kind of fuel economy could I expect with a 6 speed behind it?
You ever see someone use a DCT on an OM606?
American Allison Unit from a Chevy or GMC 6.6l (403 C.I.D.) equipped Duramax Diesel
I've got an A833 OD that would have worked well in that charger.
where are you from taking your videos
How about to the Chrysler RFEs?
How much for the OM606 engine? I need one to build my Y61 Nissan Patrol. Had the horrendous 3.0 ZD30 had a blown heads. What do I need to know about the build? How much change do I need to do from the standard/manufacture setup of the nissan Patrol, I have the 5speed TD42 gearbox, where can I find the adapter plate? How much does it cost? Does the standard Y61 ZD30 cluster run with the build?
Is a ZF8hp90 with a stand-alone controller possible?
How about a hellcat transmission?
What would you suggest to do with a 722.6 in a clk 2.7 2002? Change the transmission.??
off-topic, what would the effect be if you had a no2 line into a suitable glowplug hole fitting and was open during an acceleration run? so rather than port injection it would still be injecting after the inlet valves have closed but of course, still running when the exhaust valves are open and help drive the turbo with the waste no2/ reduce smoke.
G'day I have a question. Can you convert the 722.6 to a manual valve body. Can't find any information in Australia can you help Cheers
No, it's an electronic transmission so the needed valves to make it manual shift don't exist.
I'm trying to keep an awd transaxle setup in a 2004 subaru legacy automatic with a 600hp om606. What would you recommend? Is there an adapter plate for the subaru transaxle?
The real question is what transaxle? Om606 in a Baja bug. I know right. Hella cool.
Would a 5-6 speed mercedes gasoline gearbox (from SLK/ W203) be able to be upgraded to handle 276 hp / 385 nm tq? (C36 AMG) Or is it necessary to have the diesel box?
It should work
Whew!!!..praise be bank of mummy and daddy..
What about Getrag 260/5. I was installed this trans with 1UZ 500+ and more, there was no problem with that.
Someone married this gearbox with OM606?
hy there!! you are sick men ! i am a patrol lover , and when a whatch your videos with the om606 turbo in it !!!! dammm !!!
the td42 gearbox will handel the om606 engine ??
Zf 8hp 70 would it fit in a w124
There is plate to match it to a om606
This is a Longshot. Is there a shop you work with on the West Coast USA that you can recommend to upgrade my 99 E300... Love the channel. Crazy interactions with the EPA and the tuning world. Want to get it done before they change the rules
That would be nice to know. I have looked around and have not found anybody in Washington or Oregon that would build a OM603 pump for me. Either they won’t touch it or only do stock.
@@cullenmiller8170 I started buying all the 606 cars I could find as I have a large boat I want to convert to the 606's for marine use. You are right. No help what so ever.
What do you need upgraded on your om606? I'm in Arizona and have one work on these. I owned a 95 E300D with half a million miles on it
@@lordperezident want to rebuild them to get to 600hp and mate to a marine transmission.
@@thereissomecoolstuff look into metric motors, they offer fully rebuilt merc and other euro motors. I'm sure if you ponied up the cash they would do a rebuild to your specs.
What manual transmissions can i swap into my W124 E300D? What cars have transmissions that bolt right on? Keep in mind e300’s are rare in the states which is why im looking for options
What would you recommend for a converter stall speed on a 400hp quick spool kit attached to a 4l80e?
So…..if I’m running a Ford 4R100 or 5R110, this motor would not work well with the stock setup?
Hi, great survey. What would you recommend for improving a R380?
I thought the 722.608 was rated at about 330 Nm, but it can take 250hp from a 606?
Thanks for the info btw, I was not into diesel at all before your video, but I now consider buying a w210 300td
Got a question .. where is the procharger kit?! Please offer one, pretty please:)
(no rush however - just tell me it's in the making;))
Why? Centrifugal blowers make less boost than a turbo everywhere except peak RPM. .
Amazing 👍