Jordan Peterson's Spiritual Awakening
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- Jordan Peterson talks about his awakening, from his Biblical Lecture "Walking With God: Noah And The Flood" : • Lecture: Biblical Seri...
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I really love this video. But what I love even more is the comment section. I feel like even though I will (probably) never meet you guys, we share a really deep bond as human beings trying to understand ourselves.
Hopefully thereby to love each other rather than increase the hatred so prevelaint these days.
Its like one of the safest places of the internet !! humbled people trying to be introspective and do better
We will all meet one day....
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Sorry I had to 😅
This man is as deep as the ocean, and just as beautiful.
Peter Piper His thoughts are as deep as an ocean we all enjoy to dive into I guess
Ha G Ai
Tru tho
Peter Piper I really hope he sees this
Peter Piper true he’s knows a lot about the ocean 🌊 except one important thing....he cannot Swim
I'm about 3 years into my own awakening. The first 2 years were so hard. Mostly because I was so scared and confused. But in the last year or so I finally let go and accepted my spiritual self is now guiding me. And whats really fascinating is how much better my life is getting the more I let my essence speak, rather than my ego. So much has burnt off, and it's a daily practice of learning how to listen and respond to the split. I'm becoming a new person every day.
Same here, I was depressed and took LSD almost daily for about 9 months. Needless to say it was not a smart idea lol, i was in disarray and downright going insane. 2 years of calming down and letting my mind rest has done wonders, I have a cleaned up view on life and appreciation for it, some extra pep in my step, and now I can view the lessons I was taught during my LSD days and retroactively can dissect them with clarity now. I had lots of help of course, but everyone needs a good push from a trusted confidant, be easy man.
Wow!
It's not easy to get out of the system. That's instilled around us.
I personally wasn't able to experience this. Much love to you both 💙 keep going let's raise the vibes
wonderfully put...I was scared to....feeling so alone with all the intensity. Taught me to surrender more. Still a daily chore though. Hugs.
I knew, even before I was aware of this lecture, that Peterson had gone through a spiritual awakening. It is not only his depth of insight that points to that but also that particular something about the way he looks and talks... he'd been in the dark place, there is the umistakeable hue of suffering around him which has, thankfully in his case, brought out some amazing jewels of wisdom from the depths and we are all richer for it. Thank you for sharing this with us Mr Peterson.
^^ totally agree !!
I would call it a moral awakening. What exactly makes what he said spiritual?
Tao , the answer to your question is, "you are not who you think you are".
Yeah I had Similiar feeling about him I always take what he says with a pinch of salt as he reminds me of myself (and some of my friends) and not always in a good way... It's a strange and unforgettable feeling when you realise mostly everything that comes out of your mouth is not really who you are. 'How much ego does one need? Just enough to get you across a road safely!'
He has had a glimpse, he is not fully awake, integrated or individuated. He is still in a dark place, hence his rage and depression. th-cam.com/video/x2YdpvnwtGc/w-d-xo.html
I learned the word innocuous today....
Finally a comment worth giving a thumbs up. A comment worth replying on.
Nice one.
Meaning please
Use it in a sentence and you will never forget the meaning
@@James_CW harmless
@@brendanvanbiljon3861 Exactly how I feel right now
I totally identify with what he is saying. I too, have had this ‘split’ of awareness. I remember one day looking in the mirror with the semi conscious purpose of confronting myself. It was awkward... I have looked in the mirror many times and never even noticed much except whether my hair was in place. However this time I asked my reflection “Who are you?” I felt stripped to the bone of all the pre-conceived and fabricated ideas of whom I had always thought I was. I wasn’t any of those. What I saw was challenging and alarming. A whole new world opened up. I had always thought I was a victim of circumstances beyond my control, which to my shame, I had always unknowingly relished as a means to gain attention and sympathy. I didn’t like that person any longer. Seeing these and other faults (many) laid bare, I could hardly keep on looking. From deep inside I ‘heard’ a voice telling me why I had resorted to over exaggerating, feeling sorry for myself etc., and it said “Because you need real, enduring love”. “So why can’t I find this love - it always eludes me?” “Because you do not love yourself”. “Why can’t I love myself?” “Because you have believed a lie since childhood, and until now, you have been unaware of this”. “So what can I do to break free?” “Forgive your past and it’s lies and walk tall, and learn to love yourself. Cease lying, feeling bitter and revengeful - get rid of your self pity and start caring for others with no regard to reward”. It’s not been easy, but the more I practice this, the more I make some steps forward. Changed my life.
This is exactly what is happening to me right now! So glad to hear I’m not alone and so lucky and grateful that this is finally happening for me too
So beautiful thank you for sharing this
One of the most logical explanations thus far 😅
Amazing.. never would I have imagined even meeting myself for probably the first time
7:35
"it wasnt like i was hearing voices or anything like that"
voice in his head: it was
"it wasnt like that!!!"
Lmaooo
"I decided that I would go with the critic" is like the opposite of the Zen choice.
@@Sapienite1 It's the zen choice. Zen isn't for now, it's forever.
@@michaelrivera131 Forever is direct and immediate consciousness, not self-reflective (critical) ego. Self-awareness stands in the way of many Zen practices.
@@Sapienite1 So literal Zen, not just using that as a colloquial term for inner-peace. Got it.
The moment he felt the split into two entities, Peter Jordanson was born.
The moment he split into all entities - Brahman was born.
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@@paulflammond5584 Lyubomir Ikonomov Stella S. I love you guys!🤣✌
No that was his name before the split occurred
You better bloody believe it.
JP always seems like he's taking you on a journey with him trying to figure out life......it's pretty cool
Blain McVey
Cool if you enjoy being led by someone who does not know where he is or where he is going.
Jesus said:
(John 14:6) 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me.'
Jesus knew perfectly well that He was destined for the Cross, and predicted His own Resurrection. He understood and taught that His life and works were a fulfilment of Hebrew Old Testament prophecy.
@@marcusonesimus3400 you're preaching to the choir. Are you saying you cant like JP and Christ?
@@blainmcvey5627
Of course not. But people who know Christ understand that Christ is immeasurably greater, and they long for JP's salvation. I do think that his lure can be deceptive for those who don't know Christ yet, but are hunting for an alternative to New Left ideology gone rancid. Some of his 'disciples' go overboard in their devotion.
@@marcusonesimus3400 That sounds like a follower issue not JP's. I don't look for salvation from any entity on earth. Christ is and always will be the truth, the way and the life. I dont think JP is saying that he's the Messiah, where did you get that from??
@@marcusonesimus3400 Also, where did you get hes a leftist? You know they call him Alt right?
Beautiful, I know exactly what Jordan Peterson talks about when he says "I began to notice and observe when I said something, when it either made me feel alive or made me fall apart". That's very useful.
*align
Beautiful indeed. I believe this notion of feeling weakness really aligns with kinesiologic terms and the work of David R Hawkins, in case you might be interested in delving a little deeper.
Marian B. I understood this also
@@Grasviken ... -ment* ...
My take is this... In the process of spiritual awakening, you will largely find what you seek. Not everyone is seeking the same thing, so the experience varies. If we seek peace, we generally find it. If we seek clarity, it comes. If we desire understanding, we find it. But each experience is firstly our own. We can share it with others, but we can't say to them, "This is what you will find" or "This is the way it is". They will discover what they are meant to discover, and you what you are meant.
But it can be a guide/help to your own discovery
K P very very well put
Right, experience is subjective. It’s strange how we most often forget this during interaction and expect others to reciprocate our perception. I guess once your are conscious of how unique each perspective is, the projection of your ego onto others lessens.
Thank you for this comment. It made me realize an important thing.
That is a great comment, my friend. I absolutely agree.
Alan Watts has a great speech on embracing your dark side to find out who you truly are. Not in an evil way, but rather, to understand both sides of your psyche
tyler forde this is true , I literally spent the last 2 years doing this. This is not for the faint of heart I can tell you. It will crush you beyond measure
@@jwaterlotsof1260 I did this in the past 3 months and I have isolated myself in the process
I have no idea how to reinstitutionalize myself
I feel braindead
I dont know how to type
Please help me
I did this in my early 20s. I have had times recently when that shadow side wants acknowledgement. I have to step back and do that. Its part of life.
Sometimes, in a bit of an evil way ;)
@@jwaterlotsof1260 how do i do that exactly?
I have no idea why that eccentric psychologist liked me.
Anyway, so I went to prison in this Sherlock Holmes cape.
O yes -- good one !!
Lolololololol
LMFA0
This is gold man! Thanks :)
Excellent! You win the internet today. :)
“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”
-Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Thank you! I've been looking for the author of this quote!
wow
I had a similar experience in college. I saw myself talking and realized I was just making noise but saying nothing. So I shut my mouth. I didn’t talk for a year. I listened a lot. When I talked again I found myself responding. In dialogue with the world. It is a good practice to spend time listening. .
yawn....keep at it..... in a thousand years...tell me all that you have learned...
I think it was Epictetus, an ancient stoic who said.. "We have two ears to listen more and one mouth to talk less."❤
Essentially he is describing the state or experience of “the witness” that inevitably arises as a result of regular meditation. It’s well worth sticking with a meditation practice to attain this state.
The big eureka for me was realizing I didn’t have to agree with all the thoughts that arose in my mind, as the experience gave me a visceral realization that my mind and my thoughts weren’t “me”, even though I’d been identifying with them as such for 40+ years.
@George Coghill - Wow, congratulations on that realization. Sounds like a relief!
Also: th-cam.com/video/13J1pURD-nk/w-d-xo.html
He DID have an actual awakening experience, and he turned away from it, sounds like for reasons of the ego. Which makes me think he'll have another more permanent awakening, once he's fully ready to relinquish the struggle.
@Kushi Samuel duality
I started meditating some time ago and has had this experience for a few years now. It terrified me. But now that I am becoming more and more "the witness" it happens once in a while that both parts click together and it feels amazing. I just feel like I'm myself for a few minutes - totally and utterly sane.
40 + years? Sounds like your unsure when and what your first thought was.
"Stop saying things that make you weak" lightning bolt.
U do know what he really means right?
@ Peterson is relating to alignment of actions and thoughts. It defines clearly who a person is. Both spiritual and mental. Doing so will make a person strong... dividing and misalignment will make a person weak.
@@excusemesir7824 not just mental illness but relating to normal person too. If a person's mental state doesn't correlate to his actions and doesn't come from his spiritual, he loses more of himself and will lead to erosion and weakening of self.
A lot of people (including myself) focused only on mental and action as a definition of one self. We left out the spiritual. We tell ourselves what to think, how to tell and what to do so that's it's right to the society and to us. Yet that piece that is missing is our spiritual... that divinity. What is our divinity?
@@excusemesir7824 i have high functioning autism and i see it as a strength, not a mental illness. i am not offended, but instead teaching you maybe you should call it a mental difference or a mental uniqueness. considering autism is practically an entire psychological species with each diagnosis being a little bit different from each other as each neurotypical (normal person) is a little bit different from each other.
@@DavidLinn check out the low functioning autistic, then tell me it's not a mental illness buddy. Listen, i respect that you function well with autism, but do not fool yourself. Autism is your weakness. Your strength resides outside of your autism. I have family members with severe autism. They can't co-exist with others because of it, let alone function. It's destroyed their chance at a future, left them in a child-like state of dysfunction well, WELL into adulthood. Destroyed their relationships & any potential career or job. Get off your high horse& don't fucking tell me it isn't a serious, debilitating mental illness because it fucking is Mr. Proud autistic.
I like that he isn't afraid to show that he's struggling to put into words what he's thinking or experiencing.
He experienced Enlightenment
@@user-is3yn7xr4c No. He struggles because he is trying to defend an untenable, superstitious position.
@@con.troller4183 what is "superstitious position"?
@@con.troller4183 Truth is simple and EASY to put into words. BS is much harder to sell to the sheepz.
@@user-is3yn7xr4c He repeatedly asserts that human morality has a "transcendent foundation", which he associates with the Judeo-Christian God. Superstition.
He describing being conscience of consciousness.
Exactly what I had on mind. This is the voice of conscience we all. well most of us have. The only difference being he's acknowledging it, which surely is something a lot of people do.
Lots of people don't have that awareness. Its a little troublesome to live with.
Conscious* of consciousness
no it's being conscious of the ego
read carl jung
I think you're right but I think there's more to it. To me it sounded like before he was completely identified with his thinking side, he basically states this at 7:00 when he says that the old me "liked ideas". The other side of him, "the critic", I believe was his feeling side. This is shown by what he describes after the split, at 8:23 he states "I'm always feeling when I talk whether the words I'm saying are making me align or making me come apart". It seems that he gained access to his feeling side because he started to integrate his shadow which was previously unconscious as was his feeling side, the two were sort of mixed up. I've read a couple of stories in Jung's writing which basically says that if you're all thinking then you have no conscience, feeling allows us to place a value judgement on things.
When this split happens, you're no longer scared of letting your mind go. You become comfortable being on your own doing what truly feels worth it to you. You start preferring solitude and skip the small talk whenever you meet people. At least this is how I describe what has happened to me since the last two months. Your thoughts are welcome :)
Yes, and you talk deep whenever you must talk.
I feel the same...
Kinda late but I feel the same, I've grown bored of meaningless small talk. I truly have no use in my mind for it. I feel it to be wasting so much of peoples life's when that time could be used to have meaningful deep conversations and realizations
Ditto.
Ive been like this since I was molested at a very young age. I've had to grow up next to dumbasses do stupid things my entire life, but it's made me very intelligent. Though I've never had a positive role model, I've learned from others mistakes. I've learned from my many mistakes also.
This one hits incredibly close - I'm exactly where he's at right now.
I literally jumped out of my chair when he described that split.
The old me was 95% piss & vinegar. He's weak, selfish, impulsive, and cowardly.
But that 5% that keeps calling out and correcting my behavior is getting louder.
Jordan is a scion for the doomer age, and I couldn't be more thankful for these uploads.
We're all diamonds.
My inner voice has been screaming on the inside and I felt the pain, but now finaly, I can hear it
Actually...Peterson would argue your point on "We're all diamonds."
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.Hebrews 4:12
@@jamaalpenn5167 Ive had trouble believing in the faith recently. Could you perhaps give me your take on this?
I was raised Christian but lost the faith recently due to a sudden thought. How is it that every culture of man on earth has developed a religion? Im not an atheist by any means but that implication pushed me away from my doctrinal teachings
What if Religion and the scriptures are a social evolution of man trying to move past the fear of death
Rat Nasty “And for every nation, there is a Messenger; when their Messenger comes, the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged”- God. God sent down all the various religions through revelations. And he designed each religion to suit each nation. If you look at every single nation throughout the planet, you will find traces of belief in one god . Christians call him jehovah, jews call him yahweh, muslims call him allah, Aboriginal Americans called him “the great spirit” Hindus call him baghwan, the tengrist peoples of Mongolia and China called him the spirit of the blue sky. Ancient persians called him ahura mazda. Furthermore many traces of monotheism are found in old Chinese religion such as atenism and yahwism.
I noticed that Tony Robbins is running ads on Dr Jordan Peterson's content. It reminds me that Tony Robbins says that he has talked with and interviewed lots of people who are at the top of their game and then distilled information about their thought processes and strategies. There is no doubt that Tony Robbins is a highly skilled, world-class communicator, but I find it noteworthy that he is now running an ad campaign on the back of Dr Peterson's own original content, whom I assume might be one of the original source 'experts at the top of their game' to whom Robbins refers. The difference in delivery with Peterson is a total lack of a 'sales' tone. This guy is the real deal.
As I see it, the difference between Robbins's delivery and Peterson's comes down to the fact that Robbins is looking for customers, and Peterson is teaching students.
the talking teeth man?
Robbins is mainly a motivator, and he's good at that.
Who cares, take what is useful, discard what is useless. Not sure why you are paying too much attention to "who is better" or "who runs what ads"
Tony Robbins has a psychologist business partner who helps to develop content. Jordan Peterson is not lecturing on any content that is unique. All psychologists learn that same theory and content. What Peterson does that is his own is to tell stories about those principles. So Robbins is not taking Peterson’s material.
Beautifully said. The search for the core self is found by freeing ourselves from our own ignorance and dishonesty in how we see ourselves.
I had my spiritual awakening at 26. Most painful experience in my life almost committed suicide. The feeling after spiri
tually awakening feels refreshing. Also its true it splits your ego and your spiritual self. Fascinating experience. Change my life ever since
Was one eye red and the other glowing white? Was one of your eyes opening slower than the other too?
@@danielgutierrez702 🙄its more like psychological. A change in perspective etc. You know people do experience it. Its not something new
@@BB4ever well i ask because thats what's happening to me. it also cured my dandruff at least when it is more active.
@@danielgutierrez702 I dont think your asking. But It doesnt really concern me. so bye
😂for me I got around 23 doctors said had Bipolar disorder
I just discovered Joradan Peterson. It's so surreal that he believes in a lot of the same things that I believe and I'm learning that I'm similar to him in a lot of ways the more I listen to him. Amazing.
You are nothinngg like him. You are just a random Conservative With an existential crisis.
@@dan43544911 your just a neo Marxists with an identity crisis. Lol I don't know I figured I'd butt in since we just assume shit about other people without knowing them 🤣 🙋♂️🤷♂️🤦♂️
Bitcoin grifter Peterson is a poor role model.
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He sounds like a mature, wise Kermit the frog. I cant unhear once I thought of it lol.
Luke Calderon I told my bf that months ago as well! I kept listening and listening to his other stuff thinking why does this guy sound so familiar? I was perplexed for some time. Finally, he was playing in the background as I was cleaning and I yelled across the house to my bf “he’s god damn Kermy! He sounds like Kermit the Frog! I knew he sounded like someone familiar!” And you are right. Once you put those two together you can’t I hear it although in this one he doesn’t sound as Kermit like to me, as he has in his more recent talks.
Lmfao. Yea now I can't stop either
you cant unhear it
That’s such an accurate description of his voice.
Oh yee awaken ones, have you forgoten that there's a certain HUMAN being behind Kermit's voice?
"... it would be a helluva lot easier than I thought it would be." The greatest prayer ever includes, 'and lead us not, into temptation.'
I was bummed when the Pope decided to change that very line, that I appreciated.
He is awake, once awake, we live spiritually in the moment, aware, keen, discern, listen....love...
No he isn't.
He didn't end up in detox because he is spiritually awake.
Rather the opposite is true.
He fell asleep and slipped.
I agree with almost everything he says but I've never heard him say something original. It's all well known.
There was some guy saying all this 2000 yrs ago too.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.Hebrew 4:12
Ruth Schanuth sorry honey but he’s not awake he’s fake ..he’s totally to narcissistic egotistical delusional and seeking only self glorification..ps lazy assumptions are hazardous , like thinking this mans outer niceness is matched inwardly.his imagination masquerades as reality..✨✨🧐🤔😲😲😂🤣😂✨✨✨🌼🍄🌞🍄🌼✨✨happy summer solstice ✨✨
@@cosmicsprings8690 you poor little creature. get off your high horse, and off the drugs too while you're at it.
@@gerardjones7881 who are you to judge who is and who isn’t what do you know?
I never get tired of listening to this man.
Jordan Peterson's wisdom is so practical, useful and touching to my life; I find myself praying for his health.
Never hero worship anybody. We are all human, all deeply flawed and very often wrong about things. Jordan Peterson is no exception.
My interpretation of comment was conveying of admiration & respect. Never say never, (saracasm) lol . Nevertheless , hero worshiping and idolizing the pedestal they stand on can be a rude awakening if they aren’t the hero you thought .
There goes that ego again
This, among all things, is why I love Jordan, he’s articulated something that I knew to be true but could never put my finger on. I’ve recently undergone the same realisation - I’m mostly dead wood, and conversation has gone from being a breeze to a challenge. Thanks sir!
I find it so relaxing to find people i can relate to
Grear video
What does it mean to be dead wood?
@@edgepixel8467 you need to watch the video that you're commenting on, Ed.
Yes, I find an incredible sense of connection when Dr. Peterson articulates experiences as he has here, that I have also walked through. Don't you think, though, that the longer we allow ourselves to ponder, ask the hard questions and embrace what there is to be learned through difficult, sometimes nearly impossible events we or someone else goes thru, we become more able to "put our finger on" what is happening inside and define "it" more clear and eloquently? People just never talk about things like this. But I have learned that though I am no one of great importance, part of my job here on earth is pushing others past their "safe zone" to challenge them not only to think and allow themselves to feel deeper but to risk sharing about it...not for my benefit, but their own.
I agree with you guys. Incredible.. just incredible how he puts those so far down internal concepts in words that makes sense.
Throughout the video I can't help but think and summarize this as "Being aware of the devil inside you"
and to insure that it doesn't ruin your lives you need a foundation of truth that will help you distinguish between Good and Evil. and so far the Bible talks about all this but in an ambiguous way. It gives you guidance and warnings of the things of what not to listen to or let into your hearts because otherwise once you do, it ruins your soul.
The more you delve into the Truth, the more Revelations you will find.
Yup. And that’s why deeper thinking can get you that. It takes more time and effort to do that as opposed to going through life and assuming all knowledge will accompany you on the way... which it doesn’t. Some does. But without deeper thinking you’ll definitely miss a lot of things. For me, I literally use deep thinking as a leisurely activity and people wonder why I know so much haha
The more correlations you know the more "weird" it gets with the crossreferences. It's "funny" to look up etymology of words, but the more it gets to your head. and you realize how subjectively we understand the words we intuitionally chatter. But who has the highest objective meaning of the words i DISCOVER. words we use but ignore to understand the original meaning of. examples like good bye: means go with god. and maybe knowledge means knowing that we are eventually reaching for the ledge; like humans are the only species that are aware of their own death. so i can understand a person that refuse to acknowledge the horrible truths about what happiness really means; i'm going to the dentist today and ignoring the fear until it's time to go, makes me happy.
The "weirdest" revelation i had is when i realized how we are drawned to thinks we do not fully understand yet until we have a spiritual awakening and it feels like your are a part of a story that was MEant to learn those things that interested you before you understood it.
This comment section is amazing! I've learned so much reading the comments, my mind has been opened up and stretched in ways I can't express with words. Jordan Peterson is a well of wisdom his words always leave me exploring my heart.
Yes, this comment section is the complete opposite of most. Goes to show how the Lord explains that in his house are many mansions (or divisions) which he's prepared for us. People choose to seek out a level with which they're comfortable, and only as they grow and progress do they reach further greater levels.
His HANDS can communicate more effectively than me using my mouth!
Oh you made me laugh so, so hard. Thank you.
The first 3 fingers on his right hand are the same length. It's not the same as his left. I can't stop looking at it lol
I completely understood the the split psyche omg I thought I was the only one and he explained it even better than I could. This man is astonishing
"You should regard yourself as a loaded weapon"
... especially around children...!
The human tongue, alone, has the power to build or to destroy. Especially with children.
that spoke volumes.
yea that was good
@@Pamsmith59 very interesting, put into words something i knew but didnt formulate into an idea.
Spiritual awakening happens when your ego crashes some never experience this due to very little humility or not much life experience etc
Adam Quinn life is but a myth in the eyes of he foolish
@@seacarma8897 I don't care for nihilism
John Chronic well of course not cus they’re people just like you and I. Only thing there is, is to learn to treat everyone away from judgment and only focus on how you are as a person. Anyone can be a nihilist
Adam Quinn
Very true. My ego was in the drivers seat for the longest.
My soul finally stepped up, politely of course, and said thank you very much your tired. My turn.
I know people who have died never ever being able to say that they were wrong about something. Perhaps they might have been afraid of their whole world view crumbling if they were to admit they were wrong about even the smallest thing. Like removing one card on the bottom tier that is holding the entire house of cards up.
As a young 20 yr old male, I often do worry about what my deeper negative emotions can make of me, what they could potentially make me become if I don't come to be in check with myself. At the same time, it is extremely difficult to be introspective on these let alone honest with yourself. You have this part of you that wants to hold back, and it says "no, you'll never be that bad. that's rare." But, from what JP has taught us, it is certainly true that you can generally be bad and that the thoughts, feelings, and very hidden workings and infrastructures of your psyche that make you bad are a lot closer to the surface than you think, they just don't often become revealed because we don't actively put ourselves in enough stressful situations for such to happen - who wants to do that? If we do, it usually isn't to actively psychoanalyze our demons, they actually pop out when we least expect. It doesn't discredit the thought of them being there though, and then the questions become: well how close are they? What circumstances would they happen in? And the one that really kicks is: Just how bad can I get? Would that even be "me" at that point? Even after considering all these potential inquiries, even if they are valid concerns, there is a part of you that perhaps doesn't actually want to know. But you need to know - else you might end up in prison too. It's not a nice thought to realize you're "deadwood." For one thing, most will just be saying you're being too worrisome, that it's just all in your head. But if you give a good case and generally say you're worried, well whose to say the person you're expressing your concerns to won't just simply be judgmental because you've just given a good case as to why you're disgusting - especially if they believe nobody, not even themselves can be disgusting (although rare). How do you pick the valid worries and discard the not-so-valid ones? I often think it'd be bad to express this to most people because they will perhaps just judge you, especially if they have never gone through this introspection themselves or put it under the rug when they got a glimpse of doing so. Should it be done alone, or do you need others to guide you? I don't mind being judged or told off (maybe a little), so long as it actually helps and doesn't make the bad self-state more realizable or true when it really wasn't. So long as it is genuine advice that acts help me figure myself out. Because to be honest, I'd rather reveal my potential demons and vulnerabilities than never consider them at all until it's too late. Until I have become a demon myself, or even worse, one that doesn't recognize they're a demon but does things like one nevertheless (to a low or to an extreme - though extreme can be rare, though not as much as we thought.)
I think what you've written here is really powerful. If we were face to face it would an incredible conversation. But over the internet, I feel inadequate to respond. So I'll keep it simple.
When I was your age, I began a daily writing practice, following the principles of Julia Cameron's Morning Pages. Essentially these are stream of consciousness, no judgement 3 pages written longhand as soon as you can after rolling out of bed.
After 25 years of writing this way, and experiencing the myriad thoughts and emotions uncensored, I'm very familiar with and comfortable with the lighter and darker aspects of my mind, and recognizing that I am not my thoughts and I am not my feelings. They are transient. Who and what we are is deeper and more mysterious than our thoughts and feelings. And by not getting carried away by then, allows us a lot more freedom of choice when we take action in the world. So your pursuit of self-awareness is very empowering. Don't be afraid of your darker side, bring everything you can find out into the light of compassion and acceptance.
There are a couple books that I think you might appreciate. The Happiness Trap by Russ talks about ACT, a kind of therapy. The most fascinating part was his analogy of navigating life while dealing with the demons on your boat.
The other book is Willpower Doesn't Work, which ostensibly is about personal effectiveness. But the foundational premise is to recognize that people's behavior is all about context. This is HUGE.
I hope you, or anyone else reading this, is encouraged. Building a loving relationship with yourself is everything. Be blessed🌹
I think you are at a very difficult age. If my thoughts and demons had to manifest I would have most likely died or be locked up. I can't tell you how, but try to break that beliefs. I used to have this habit of imagining and playing out extremely dark and negative scenarios in my head. Then one day I was driving and it suddenly hit me and became aware that I was dong it, after that it stopped, I was 28 then. Looking back at when I was in my early twenties and the people I had around me, specifically one friend and myself were the ones that had the same thing you are talking about. We are the only two who are struggling to adult out of all of them. It felt like I only started to discover myself in my mid 30s, making sense of the anger and negative thoughts I was carrying. I think the fact that you are already asking the questions is a great sign, I was to busy being consumed by my own ego to notice.
I met this one guy during an Ayahuasca retreat in 2015, some time after that I was having trouble figuring out my demons and gave I reached out to him, we met in a park and I will never forget what he told me. He told me that those demons are just scared, that was what I was feeling, and that I should give them a safe place to stay, but let them know that I am in control not them. So I had the inner dialogue acknowledging them, letting them that it's okay, but if they want to stay, I will be the one in control.
I hope you can get some sense out of what I'm trying to say and hopefully there is something you can use.
Im so glad for your services Jordan Peterson, thanks to you i got this spiritual awakening (or wathever you want to call it if you are not spiritual, its irrelevant) at age 14, you gave me freedom and a better future.
Wow. That's great.
"The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks." (Luke 6:45)
I always wondered why the Bible speaks in these riddles, just come out with it!
+E.T. It's because the Bible is two thousand years old. These riddles probably made perfect sense to ancient scholars.
The truth will out -- after the false, after the simply stupid, after the complexly stupid.
I consider that quote false and harmful. My two reasons why:
Firstly, there is no such thing as good and evil.
Secondly, people with harmful intentions usually lie. People with good intentions may speak hurtful truths.
My conclusion is to think critcally and look beyond words of the mouth.
GOD /the most high is in the details
This is exactly what I’ve been going through the last year, realising I only ever said what I thought people wanted to hear so I would fit in/be liked! Now I only listen to my true self and not the ego! Fuck Jordan is brilliant!
I used to do the same thing. Fuck that. I’m speaking my truth!
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I've spent a lifetime hating myself and tearing myself apart over such minor things. It's exhausting. Started listening to JP last year, realized I can't go through life hating who I am. So I let go of all my past. I feel like I can finally enjoy my life and the time I have left
"Just" don't be an a-whole, and optimally be a hero for someone. Giving and helping works well for most of us. Enjoy !
Read sermon on the mount according to vedanta by swami
This is so good to hear. I haven't had a good upbringing and this really gives me celerity of thought. Not to mention how to become a better dad to my kids.
Thank you Jordan!
With intention and knowledge like that, I think that you will be a wonderful dad to your kids.... the type that's known suffering and is willing to grow & put that to use, as you raise the next generation. I dont know you, but I congratulate you my friend 👍
The amount of people in the comments section who didn’t know the word innocuous genuinely surprises me. But I’m so heartened that no one is embarrassed to admit they didn’t know what that word meant. ❤️🙏🏼
Admit it, somewhere deep inside you it made you feel good that you knew a word the "many" didn't know and that you were eager to post it to boost your own confidence!
Spoken like someone who pronounces their H's.
I decided once to only say what was true and necessary. I didn't last long at it as a conscious discipline, but it changed me, and during that time I barely said anything!
Well it does show that most of what people say has no meaning, it's all useless babble. People should speak when they have something of value to say and not fill life up with garbage.
Same here it lasted for a month life was more like a dance unfolding in front of me rythmically... it is something I won't forget and carry with me all the time!
I am in the same situation and its actually becoming an obstacle to meeting new people. I have held this state for so long that even when i want to start a conversation i can't come up with a topic that i don't consider "pointless", which leaves all the real things like personal development etc. that can be quite a heavy and intolerable subject to talk about with somebody you have never met before, let alone if they haven't even had their first spiritual awakening yet.
@@Xsjr03 You could ask them about themselves perhaps?
@@sugarfree1894 I do, and the answer is just how school is going (school=university). I don't really believe i can tackle deep subjects with strangers.
What I get from this is that real honesty is hard, and sometimes painful, but it's still the best policy if you want your own Self to put up with you.
Funny way of putting it but also bares quite a bit of truth in your words!
I was today years old when I learned Jordan Peterson was in my country when he was younger and bought a cape from Serra da Estrela!!
The simple fact I can understand what he means brings me immense joy. Thanks for the upload, amazing lecture!
It's wonderful to see his explanation of it. I went through it myself and from someone who is not a psychologist let me tell you its terrifying because you've seen something that you can't unsee and your world begins to unravel (which needs to happen). I began to align to my true self and EVERYTHING fell away. Losing that 95% is scary as shit. In that 95% was all my family and people that I thought were my friends. Now that I have found my root core and shook off the trappings I can begin the process of empowering and strengthening and actually growing. Yes I'm sad at the loss but the gains that I will get will be something out of a dream made manifest.
I’ve always felt that split and have found it easier to align as I’ve grown. Nice to hear someone put it into words I can relate to and understand.
"What wondrous being we, stardust children contemplating what to be. Where to look and what to see, the world and us a living mystery. Like lotus opening, awakening, for more to be, petals of that what might be. What wondrous beast lies in me, in thee. Together on a roaming sea, below a quiet, calm deep. What amazing apparitions of you and me fade into dreams of infinity."
Beautiful
Wow What was that? So cool!
@@paulamoore8427 this one is mine, came on the spot. I think it beautiful toi, though I must admit it is some bad writing. Repetition of "be" and "you and me", but who cares, right?
Glad you liked it! 🤓
@@Robustacap wow friend! That is amazingly well written!
@@Robustacap May I quote this? With u credited
The dead wood burning of, he applies to speech. I try to apply it to all my behaviours.
And if I find a behaviour (such as unnecessary anger) does not feel good, especially after some time, I try to catch it earlier and earlier until one day it has dissolved.
THis Guy is what the people need to develop some depth that has been so lacking in this dumbed down culture
Jorden you articulate such wonderful things It makes my heart sing to listen to you ..
I never was big on the whole higher self stuff but during a “experiment” of mine I started to self reflect deeply and then after that I started to drop my ego completely I focused on the things that I thought actually made me me and I just felt this crazy feeling like I had woke up
Thank you for your teachings Dr. Jordan Peterson! Your teachings is fathering a generation!
5:48 reminds me of Kurtz in Apocalypse Now: _"You must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared."_
Damn. That is powerful.
Shadowy
That could lead a person down a very dark path. Perhaps that's the point. Seeing darkness so you can better remember the light.
@@thewrathematician1911 I think so too. If you can't see the darkness, you may _be_ the darkness without realizing it.
But the horror is usually within yourself.
Jordan Peterson has helped millions. His soft spoken and humble demeanor is non-threatening. He slows us down long enough to actually LISTEN. We then carry that skill set out into the world. His voice of reason actually solidifies my faith. This video in particular convicts me in a really good way (though painful I admit) what I already know: Continuously observe my words. I don’t want to spray emotional bullets anymore simply bc I’m frustrated or not in control. JP IS good mental medicine.
Only in the last 20 seconds of this video did I realize how far this guy is along his journey, what you are pursuing is the most natural form of the human being, with no false truths or deceptions put on by the norms of mass culture.
Just as I start to understand and grasp the concept, it dims and confusion clouds what I, for a moment, understood. I believe this is a process and one that requires work. This is why I love Jordan Peterson
I feel this too, i feel "sometimes" that i sit behind myself listening to what i say and critique it. It's insanely hard and useful.
I have found that the observer (critic) of my adult self is the that part of my self I most identify with from my earliest childhood.
The observer is not the critic .
Observer cant critisise, it can only observe. Judgement comes from the mind
Mar Tin I would consider my conscience to be the observer and it certainly criticize in less we have become very good at ignoring it.
@@Nemanoid True.... I agree. Judgement comes from the 'lower' often repressed and pain body ego mind....not the 'higher' observer more neutral mind.
@@DanRaperplus Consciousness has many aspects to it including the parts criticize and judge (human ego mind)... The true observer mind would never make you feel bad...or good for that matter....it simply sees...what is. You could also call it "higher awareness"...
It gets tricky when we try to label or define with words that which cannot be defined or labeled...because it exists outside the realm of the dualityband language in which we seem to find ourselves here.
I do this, but not always in real time. At the end of the day I'm now more reflective of the days events, and my interactions with others. And I question whether I could have handled things differently or better. I spend a good bit of my time on such self- examination and critique, and I believe its helped me a lot. It's not a fast process, but it is definitely changing me in ways that I knew I needed to change. Before I started doing this, I was preoccupied with work and business matters and was generally thinking about that instead. I love Dr.Peterson...he's opened my eyes and given me the conceptual framework to understand things about myself and the human psyche that I was incapable of articulating, even in thought. We are so blessed to be able to learn from him in such a readily accessible and impactful manner, and to share our own insights with each other via our comments...this is truly a rewarding educational and growth experience.
That sounds great, but I don't see any of what you have written more than mere symantics.
No offense intended, but both sound bi-polar and incessant with wordiness without making a direct claim or point.
No depth, no meaning just garbled and worded
incoherent babytalk. And a bit of ego without substance to verbage!
@@KathrynBriley Arent you a ray of sunshine. Lol!
What he describes is exactly what happened when I did ayahuasca. I got aware of the "voices". 1 is the instant voice, maybe the ego who reacts to the situation and sometimes judges afterwards, 2 is the observing voice of reason who responds. That's a huge difference.
Great to see him digging deeper
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Eckart Ttolle explains this split really well between consciousness and the thinking mind.
If I could ask JP one question when meeting him is that whether he has read The Power of Now :D
Such an amazing person. I too have had the "split experience," only differently, but I know what he's talking about. He's a gift in our world and especially during these times
How did your split happen?
He’s describing the awareness that the soul (mind, will and emotions) can be subjected to his inner spirit and should be.
I was surfing mindlessly, and then this, and holy shit! Spot on. I'm 32 and I've been going through this, which is almost word-for-word exactly what I've been thinking. Great job Jordan Peterson!
Trent can't wacth videos on youtube without one of these.
I've personally just gone through this transformation over the last 3 weeks or so. Ive been sick and stuck at home, and ive since researched heavily into the philosophy of Platonism, Gnosticism, And ancient Mythology and i pursued this research with a drive i have almost never experienced in my life. I completely relate to feeling Jordan is talking about of having an original self who is then judged by a new more spiritual entity in the mind who is FAR more rational and straightforward in thinking. And this is the mind I'm using to type this out. My old self still exists, and manifests sometimes around friends and family or when in large social situations, for example at work. However when i speak Directly to someone privately i speak from my this new 'Enlightened' part of my mind.
I will add that i did this without watching Jordan Peterson until AFTER achieving this state. however i do wish i came across this during my Epiphany.
❤Don't worry its Jesus plan to learn that Heaven and the new earth is here
@@marwachris it is not obvious that jesus or Christianity had any part to play in it.
@@daroth7127 At some point you could say so because if your first hand material that took you to the position.. basically I did meditation with inspiration from Yoga people while massively studying and I became way wiser... just from studying the source of the bible truth Just realised the spirituality was in the bible but it was plucked to keep the slaves to spiritual poverty ... hence confirming with my conscience they came from Jesus
Well, when you grow up in the hood usually you get that dark side first- then as you graduate too success you tap into your Harvard Student grad. Id like to call it, tapping in from the shadows.
That’s fascinating!
Too, two....TO. Pick Juan!
Thank you for your amazing constant understanding, incentive and schooling to assist my exploration to becoming more consciously alert as well as spiritually connected.
Nothing he has ever spoken, spoke to me the way this clip has. Confidence restored.
I would say a similar thing happened to me, starting the year before last and continuing into last year, in that I gained some awareness of my own speech, and found that, viewed objectively, I didn't like most of what I said and how I reacted. The difference is he said he was viewing it non-judgmentally, whereas for me it was very judgmental. I was very distressed, and still am to some extent. I berated myself for having nothing to say except for egotistical nonsense to try to prove how "smart" and "cultured" I am. I've had to think about my own rules for talking and decide what is a decent thing to say and what isn't. It also caused me to isolate myself more, because I realized that I didn't know why I acted the way I did when I was around people. I think I mostly wanted people around so I could try to impress them and seem smart, and win arguments.
C.S. Lewis describes this awakening very well in Surprised By Joy -- he was horrified by the extent of his egotistic thoughts and actions. I think the Observer-part is not judgemental, but rather is patient as the awakening unfolds, yet one's disgust is a natural and healthy reaction.
I think people who are egotistical lack this experience
I wish more people had your degree of self awareness. Respect
@@mondopinion3777 so what's the most right one?
This has brought me to appreciate Jordan Peterson. This is something everyone should hear.
I started feeling my "shadow" because of various kinds of stress and pressure when I was in "high-school" (not exactly, since we do not have such a notion in Russia) or maybe a bit earlier than that. At some point (and I think death of my mother was the main trigger for that) it literally split into a second personality (not exactly), I believe more as a defense mechanism, which correlates with how Yung described "shadow". And I've tried to fight it, because it forced me to realize a lot of "bad" things and "bad" desires that were in me and it overpowered me. I was staring at myself in the mirror with manicure scissors against my throat. I could not do it, because I was weak and because of realization, that no one would even care, because I was absolutely useless in life and will be in death. I continued fighting that "shadow" and sometimes I felt like I was winning, until at some point I encountered a mental "burnout". And at that time I cam to realization, that it was that very "shadow" that was keeping me alive despite everything going on around. Most (if not all) of the things that I thought were "bad" about me were desperate attempts to protect myself at the last moment. I realized, that I, if not strong, am not as weak as I think I am, because I am still alive and kicking and willing to fight. It still takes some work to point that will to the outside instead of the inside (that is myself), but it does feel quite empowering, when you accept that "shadow" and not as something natively "bad".
@jami0070 that would mean split personality. It was a semi-concious reaction to split it into separate entity, that could have been like a split personality, but I knew (and know), that it is a part of me and not something actually separate. It's more like looking at things from several perspectives at the same time and "playing a role" of both sides. In fact, one of the approaches some therapists suggest is physical intepretation if this: you sit in one chair, voice your concerns, then sit in a chair across it and act like a therapist or "3rd party" by giving advice or sharing perspective, asking questions. This is often suggested as a way to work with anxiety: you try to explain what is making you anxious on one chair and "calm yourself" from another. My "shadow" works in a similar manner, but without the chairs.
@jami0070 evil is just a concept, that depends on personal norms of a particular individual
Are you better now?
@@4lifebloods probably. At least, I feel lighter. I once again have a more-or-less clear goal in mind and am making steps towards it, albeit small ones. I was able to start writing (proza.ru/avtor/simbiat) and coding (github.com/Simbiat) again. So, yeah, better than I was. But there are still quite a few things, that I need sorted out in my own brain.
@@simbiat спасибо за аналогию про стулья, такой прием не приходил мне в голову, но я могу представить его эффективность)
Feeling your self split while saying something you in your core find not to be true is a very real thing. One of the most alienating feelings one can experience.
“What role does each individual’s behavior bore to the pathology of the group.”
I think this is as much a very personal question for Dr.Peterson as it is a scientific one.
If you look at this phrasing carefully, its like empirical wording for “The world is burning around me. How limited am I in my capability to save it”.
I was split aswell due to the existential anxiety of the star of the world and the over whelming desire to help but knowing I was too small to make a difference. Caring so much about everything at once leads to a split mind. I’m going back now thanks for the testimony. I want to help the lost people like me
This has happened to me before and I feel like it's happening again. I keep saying things but another voice in my head is upset by them. At the same time, I just feel exhausted after having said these things. I've been feeling called to just be silent, speak less, and listen more...but I love this framework of speaking in a way that doesn't make you feel weak/aims to be in alignment with your nature
This is the base knowledge for children for thousands of years for certain education system in india. Then imagine their complex education , knowledge and wisdom.
Thank you for sharing your story. I came across this and thought it was relevant.
"There is a deeper Knowledge within you, a deeper intelligence that is not the product of your being in the world, that is
Thank you kindly.
ALW ALW
Scripture says that God created mankind in His own image. But it also tells us that we have failed to live up to the knowledge which was implanted within. Therefore our relationship with God has bee ruptured, and we need a Redeemer to restore it. That Redeemer is Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God. Peterson never gets around to imparting that vital information. He, a learned doctor, has not got that far, though many children have. Having a 'big brain' is not the solution to every problem.
Yup, that's why I look INSIDE for truth, not to others. Others have helped me along the way of course.
@@mr.blackhawk142 You look to Christ, not "inside." All else is futility. That which excludes Christ is not good, it is evil. That which pulls you away from Christ is evil. Psalm 95 "The gods of the pagans are demons." New Age, Hinduism, Buddhism all the rest which claim some spiritual nobility are diversions from Christ. There is no goodness outside of Christ; there is only darkness. See Klaus Kenneth: Born to Hate, reborn to Love. He went through all the supposedly elevated New Age religions before rejecting them in favor of Christ. He saw demons along the way.
Parts of this clip really resonated with me.
I have in my lifetime experienced real hardship and poverty.
But it was only then that I realised that it's very easy to be a good person when your bills are paid and there's nothing you want for.
It's much more difficult to be a good person when the cards are stacked against you.
We all have good and bad in us and it's only when you come to terms with that fact that you can start the journey to becoming the good person you want to be.
Mallows heirarchy of needs
I am lost like you.
I had an experience after undergoing surgery, where I was as they say floating in light, and I could hear a discussion, or more like a monologue occurring somewhere in the distance. As I started to zero in on this conversation, I heard myself telling some entities, how it was strange that I felt no pain after coming out of surgery, and that I felt fine, better than ever in fact, and the rambling went on for a little while longer, until this very authoritative or dream ending voice said, "Don't tell that to me, tell that to the nurses", or "tell that to them". That's when I started waking up, and everything seemed so dirty, even the perfectly white walls of the hospital seemed gritty and incomparable to the purity of this space I came from.
This reminded me a little of that.
@HanselManCan Your're being over analytical with no data, and very confrontational about someone elses experience, without knowing anything about me. I hope you're not trying to prove something to yourself.
@@Lawh This is a very intriguing experience. From what I can gather, I think that when you were hearing those far off voices of yourself speaking, that you might have actually been saying that in real life. And the person caring for you obviously told u to tell other people. But the point being that you in that moment were very miss-aligned I guess with yourself, the physical was speaking, most logically in an instinctual, automative manner. While the rest of you was still waking and you could hear this instinctual version of yourself speaking. Until you merged with this part of yourself and fully awoke. If you get what I mean. We can never know for sure but still, very interesting.
@@asherpikesgoldenmoralcinem5770 It is totally possible. It felt so amazing, to come back from that nothingness. The first things that sort of rebooted in my consciousness was just the perfect whiteness and total freedom of all "evil", and then reality began to slowly seep in bit by bit
@@Lawh Very, very interesting subject indeed. As an outsider to the experience I can only speculate. But I think this so called light is actually tied with the notion of consciousness itself. In other words, it is possible that it was your very consciousness, which “rebooted” in that moment. It’s very core, or something very close to it. Rather than something rebooting inside your consciousness, it was your consciousness itself. The reason I am speculating this is because when it comes to darkness, darkness is actually the absence of light. When it comes to the mind, darkness is the absence of consciousness. So the light which replaced the darkness, could then logically have been your legitimate consciousness at its core. As there seems to be no other candidate to replace darkness first. When most people wake up, their consciousness already had rebooted and they don’t “experience” this reboot. However with you, it would seem that you came to experience it in sync with the reboot, as it / you / your consciousness replaced the “nothingness.” That’s my hypothesis at least, very interesting.
@@asherpikesgoldenmoralcinem5770 Yeah that could make sense. It was very intriguing, and one of my top experiences ever for sure.
The two entities he's describing is the exact reason i dont talk much, i dont post much in social media and such( even tho i wanted too, since im a photographer and needed to expand my radius to gain audiences and clients but its very hard for me to conclude with a satisfying captions to my picture because to every captions i come up with theres always a part of me that defy it.) This 2 entities thing goes with anything i do.....now i give up in thinking on anything..now i just go with the flow..
Euwanphylla Marbaniang is that why you are so attention seeking then you sound like a total narcissistic egotistical delusional brat..all you go one about is your self
Are you ever curious as to why this is?
Being able to communicate through the use of storytelling is the most powerful why to teach and draw your audience into your world. It’s a skill that is extremely valuable!!!
He speaks with a knowing intelligence from his experience. And it’s spot on👌🏽
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.”
John 12:24
The way this man embody his thoughts is just magical.
This is exactly what happened to me when I accepted Christ and understood the importance of Truth (I had a habit of lying a lot). It is still going and it's been a feeling of almost a teacher and student relationship its very personal and in many ways very indescribable. I can feel the Spirit and it's very magnetic and very alive. The most shocking thing to me that I discovered is how animated and very real the Holy Spirit is. This video just made me reflect on that. I am 21 and I accepted and started developing a personal relationship with Jesus when I was 20. And within this year alone I transformed from something like Jordan described from mostly deadwood into something ( I am being very meticulous and honest with these numbers) 7 to 14 times bigger than when I was at my best throughout my 20 years of existence, which for me was when I was a child. I feel like a child but even greater and more. I feel actual Power, animation, and life. It's a feeling that exceeds happiness, it's a feeling indescribable and intangible to the human vocabulary. And when I stop looking inward and peer over my wall to the expanse and wilderness that lies ahead I feel even with how much I have grown very minuscule. Not in an intimidating way but in Aweness and eagerness. And this moment where I have looked behind me reflecting on the growth and all its fruits that have resulted from that one simple action, that is the reason why I am grateful and am filled with deep pure love for Him. And like a warm wave from the ocean grazing at your feet I am filled with happiness, sentimentalness, and refilling of strength before I now turn back around towards the Wilderness to continue on expanding the walls and continuing on the growth that would not have been possible without Him. When I left depression (it could be described more as an emptiness) it started off with baby steps but now I am here. Conquering. I don't know why I wanted to share this. But when encountered with such a flood of feelings it's hard not to scream out to the rooftops. Jordan Peterson had been a help and I feel warmed at my heart that he is being used by God (whether he realizes it or not XD) One of the greatest insights I have learned recently too is that I am not perfect (heck I just sinned pretty bad twice earlier today) But it's not about how Perfect YOU are. It's about how great his love is. (Sin also simply is Hebrew for "to fail")
For those wondering (if there is any lol) I am currently being taught about Authority. Being a true follower of Christ is not easy but its something i wouldnt trade for the world.
At my lowest I actially forgot the ability of how to actually love. I was just imitating it (it was the worst feeling in the world) But now my love is so powerful that at times I feel like a gitty school girl XD
@Darren I dont think he's supposed to be awakened. I belive he seems awakened because he is involved with a lot of the truth in a time where everybody is thirsty for it. He is a light for many Men in this time. The problem is he hasn't accepted the Complete Truth which is Jesus's resurrection for our sins. It seems he understand many aspects of the truth as it pertains to the world but when it comes to the Spirit he doesn't quite get it. It seems he is consistently trying to relate the spiritual with the world. But I hope and feel and will continue to pray that he finally accepts the reality of Christ. He is a very intelligent man with a very big heart with a very good understanding of the Law, from what I can see. It seems he is on the cusp of accepting Him. Foolish in somethings he is, as we all are. But he has produced many fruits and the Lord says to judge people based on how many fruits they bear. I can really feel the pull of the Holy Spirit on him. So I am not worried about his salvation, I trust in the Lord
@Sir
Hello there, friend. I am grateful to have encountered your comment in serendipity. Firstly, I am intrigued in the fact that we share the same title on social media. I too, sense, that JP is a man of religion but he is very engaged, perhaps too engrossed, in the rationalistic interpretations of the universe. I saw a clip of him with Ben Shapiro yesterday and JP said something that I interpreted as: he acknowledges the existence of the transcendent and he demonstrates verbally statistical data of people being much more content with death as they become diagnosed with almost incurable disease and pointed out how much evidence there is on near death experiences, at the point to which it is irrefutable. So he is a believer, but to what extent only he and Him know.
I wish to share knowledge and experiences with you. I wrote this today to share to the world:
I have been enlightened with the realisation of a self-fulfilling cycle. It starts from gratitude, the greatest of all virtues. There exists a deterministic flow of the universe, can be referred to as God, the greater purpose, or whatever you want to name it, we simply do not have the senses to grasp this greater purpose while in human form. But one can believe. To realise the potential of this universal flow. To be graced with a realisation when you practise deep meditation and deep reflection, and the gratitude that you cultivate for being able to experience through this intrapersonal connection, but also through the beauty of everyday life, the nature. To be able to detach from any hedonistic desire. With patience and inference, to sense that free will and determinism live in symbiosis and the present moment is the only thing that exists and the future path is carved for you, when you put yourself through rigor / the universe puts you in a place to face this rigor (physical and mental) and you hold a mindset of utter selflessness and purity and humbleness, being not simply content but grateful of the cycle of life, and realise the serendipity of having the opportunity to experience this rigor on Earth, you bow down to the greater purpose, and the good will returns to you through growth in form of enlightenment and revelation. To sense a grace of light. The sacred. A heightened state. To keep learning externally from interpretations of sacred scripts and to keep reflecting internally and to spread the message, so that others can learn and to be guided to the realisation of the potential of their own Word (first line of the Bible), existence and conscience. Through meditation and prayer, to recall the Word.
What is your source of information about Christ?
The Bible isn't a very good candidate, since it seems to have been corrupted in many ways. We could go into details if you are using it. If you have some other source of information about Christ, I would like to understand what it is. The last possibility is that you know nothing about Christ, and in that case I wonder how you can feel like you have a close relationship with Him.
Every time I watch jp he explains me to myself...
and yet it never results in any lasting improvement..why is that?
Your Soul is like the eternal and unique crystal that processes life/energy/the light in a way that makes you YOU.
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Your Ego is what you came to understand of your Soul, in relation to the external world and to the way you're expected to be.
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Your Consciousness is the Awareness that makes experiencing all of this possible, your true point of view at a specific moment in time. That voice that softly but persistently whispers wisdom words in your ear, telling you what your true perspective on your experience is, again, at that moment in time, making it possible for you to live a never-ending evolutional process.
Yes
He’s not only a very intelligent, resourceful and well spoken man. He found the Source of Power within him and he uses his mouth to speak truth itself. That’s why every word coming out of his mouth makes total sense to all mentally sane people.
three years ago i was naive but still found this deeply insightful. and now I'm a little bit wiser and boy oh boy this video hits differently. i can relate to whatever this man said a hundred percent
This is the base knowledge for children for thousands of years for certain education system in india. Then imagine their complex education , knowledge and wisdom.
@@phoenixj1299 it's true. I'm from nearby Nepal. Spirituality is the essence of our Culture. Sadly people are too distracted and self centered
"see the selfish motives behind your actions and watch them until they dissolve."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
Claude Lebel
They won't dissolve when watched. Passive observation does not amount to repentance, still less spiritual regeneration. Mostly it causes one to admire one's own intelligence and moral insight.
Martin Luther described our species in its natural condition as 'homo curvatus in se', man curved in upon itself. The image represents a posture of alienation from God and neighbor.
Even our inward contemplations are suspect.
(Jeremiah 17:9)
'The heart is deceitful beyond all else and is desperately sick; who can understand it?'
He moved from simply being the clay to the potter who shapes the clay.
Like this guy? www.biography.com/people/jim-jones-10367607
I understand that
It's all very Buddhist, yet he doesn't seem to know that.
another way of conceptualising it ..... the clay shapes itself through the medium of the potter.
You may enjoy this if you have not already. th-cam.com/video/PhhC_N6Bm_s/w-d-xo.html This Is Water by David Foster Wallace Full Speech
7:15 mins When we're speaking, ask yourself about what you're saying;
Is that your idea?
Do you really believe that?
Do you know what you're talking about?
Is what you're saying the truth?
Takes someone elses ears to experience this truly. Hopefully they are productive with their responses to trigger such questions. If the listener does not listen but antagonizes or shuts you down, it can cement those thoughts, based on false virtue and not on truth
Words to live by
Im going through this now, im 20 years old and ive always been intrested between in psyce, ego and awareness
2nd part is core self = spirit awareness = presence. It hides under the ego
That psychological split happened to me 10 years ago! Gosh darn nearly ruined my life! One day I was a card carrying meek Christian boy, a young Ned Flanders then a drunk neighbour and his pals gave me the beating of my life. My whole inner world went dark and for years I had to WRESTLE with that shadow-me in my mind. I actually don’t know how it resolved, I think the two parts settled into mutual dissatisfaction but lately things are shifting. I wish I had someone to talk to about these things lol Certainly can’t talk to my wife, family or friends about it so it’s a relief to find SOME forum to vent.
Talk to God bro He's the only answer
... that's; Quite-Some trauma there, Ian... and, since then, how goes the Shift-? Regards... PDA...
Fuck those guys... Homer would never have done that
He is talking about another split. In your case it's PTSD with depression. You need to find specialist who will treat it.
i thought i was the only one as well, its the biggest relief knowing that you guys are here, and even greater feeling when i knew JP is the one representing us.
Over the past few days I was thinking about JP saying that you may need to shed most of “you” and then exactly the lecture where he says it gets recommended. The Algorithm is spot on reading my mind again.
What I learned is that every person has multiple egos, therefore, one ego can observe the other. In this case his ego was observing the ego that made him seem weak.
Ive actually had similar experience it actually sounds like the true self(also known as the observer) is observing the ego (which is who and what you think you are on this planet but you actually are not)the ego manifests through the minds constant chatter which most of the time isn’t true