I would say it's not a dirt bike that is why they are good to learn on. It's the skills of loose surface riding, that translate to skills down the road that make you a better and safer rider. A dual sport certainly gets you the same skills. I would suggest a small dual sport is better than a dirt bike to learn on, since a lot of the dirt bikes have a different power band. The dual sports are usually a much broader and easier to ride torque band, and aren't as snappy with the throttle. The thing is so good about learning about the dirt, is you learn how to handle riding out the rear wheel lock ups, and what it feels like when the back end moves around. Learning rear wheel lock ups, and power slides, on a sport bike, is a great way to high side and hurt yourself.
That's a good point man! Duel sport would be a bit easier. I do wish I'd had a bit of dirt experience before I got the road. Like you said, rear wheel slides and fishtails happen, and that dirt experience would have made them a bit less surprising.
@@WolfyFam If you do a ( mention ), you are usually just saying that persons name or channel name. Or both. If you do a full Shout-out, you are really trying to bring attention to that persons channel, and it's best to either put their logo or channel banner on the screen. ( If you know how ). But for both shout out or mention, you should put a link to their channel in the description so people can get to their channel easily.
@@WolfyFam Yeah, pretty much. If you mention someone in your video, or talk about their channel, that's a shout-out. Whether it's in response to something [like a comment they made] or not. It's a good idea to @ them in the video description, too, so they get notified of it.
I learned on a dirt bike. Grew up on several acres of land and we had trails all over. Good way to learn the basics…but definitely different than riding on the street.
I think dirt bikes are a great way from young riders to learn to ride (early teens). It introduces them to balance, shifting, clutch control, braking in a more forgiving environment than the road. I rode dirt before I could legally ride street and had some valuable skills when I could get on the road. For adults I would suggest starting on a dual sport if you have access to an off road area to learn. They are smaller, lighter, usually cheaper to buy and fix if you go down. MSF course would be advised too.
Totally agree!! Dirt bikes are great for kids to learn on. Especially if you live in an area where they can have a lot of room to have fun. MSF course is a must!! I always recommend that!
I came from dirt riding on a farm. Very valid points on access to riding land theses days. Yes I have stumbled upon plantations that well technically should be where they were ...lol
First bike I rode was a Yamaha 125 Trail bike in '1980. Then a buddy got a '84 YZ 80 and let me rip that around all the time. What a blast. I might buy a used Sur Ron if the price is right.
I love dirt bikes, lightweight, torquey, loud (most of the time) 😂 but you’re spot on they can be very needy maintenance wise. Man Americans are super protective of their property. Over here in the UK, someone could park on your drive and legally there’s nothing you can do about it 😂 That’s crazy what people do on government land 😬 people are mad 😂 Great video mate, well spoken 🤘
Dirt bikes are a blast! Especially if you have a good place to ride it! Over here if you park in someone's driveway, expect to get towed at your expense!
A friend of mine used to live on a farm. His dad grew corn. Someone tried growing weed in his cornfield hoping he wouldn't notice. 😂. And no it wasn't my friend or me! 😂.
I reckon to learn and have a good amount of time on a proper dirt bike could be quite invaluable KG especially if your that young person who might not be quite old enough to get on the road ,it's gonna give you some good grounding in the bike being loose and moving around a lot underneath the rider great for building confidence in handling .But as you say KG maintainance and such like is not cheap but if you can do it before road riding it's good, unfortunately not so many folks can do it that way good one .👍
I wish I'd had a bit of dirt experience before I got on the road. I actually think it would have given me a bit more confidence when I first started riding in the rain.
@@KODEGREY Absolutly right there mate I reckon people who ride dirt would be much more relaxed on the wet roads should their be any movement in the bike 😉👍
So I did learn on a dirt bike... a 1984 suzuki dr100. The problem is I went from around age 15 to 33 or 34 before I rode a again so I lost all of those skills and feels I had. But if I would have started riding a few years after riding a dirt bike then yes it would have helped.
That's definitely a big gap in-between. I bet you felt rusty for sure. I would have loved to have had dirt bikes when I was young. But couldn't really afford it. And had limited places to ride anyway.
@@KODEGREY yea being 6ft at 15 i had outgrew that bike and I didn't have but a small summer job and my parents couldn't afford it and getting me a vehicle ,1984 S10 blazier, after i had turned 16. And yes I felt really rusty.
All valid points, but if you want to learn how to stay on a bike that's breaking loose, Dirt is the best way to learn. Not saying learning on a road bike is bad. I learned to ride as a child on a farm bike in the school ground behind my house. Yes the police came twice and stopped me. Hahahaha. Then I was lucky enough to ride around on a 5 acre property.
That's exactly one of the things I wish I had more experience with...tires breaking loose. It's happened to me a few times on the road and I was ok, but having that dirt experience would have made it a bit less surprising.
I learnt to ride on a street bike, on dirt 🤣 A Yamaha FS1E on a farm. We destroyed it over a couple of years and got a trail bike. No dodgy plantations either 😮👍🏼
Would rather work on a dirtbike than a road bike, 3 years with my Beta 390RR enduro bike have been the easiest of any bike to look after.... folk get all bent out of shape by the service schedule... but it really isn't an issue unless you are racing in MX at competition level or riding hard enduro... but kicking around a field on one really doesn't stress the engine while learning. Saying that, I'd not recommend a sportbike, cruiser or dirtbike to learn on... a streetbike is far more sensible, upright riding position, good turning circle, cheap to crash and solid reliability.
Ok, I can't argue that point. I'd rather work on a dirt bike than a street bike myself. Also agree about learning on a standard street bike. But these last couple videos were for those people who are dead set on getting certain type of bike. Not necessarily the best to learn on.
@@KODEGREY Ahh I get that mate, is why I made the comment about streetbikes... we have very different learner laws in the UK to the USA, so I know out there, people can pretty much ride anything.... over here, we are restricted on what bikes we can ride when new to it all for at least 2 years, possibly 4!
I would say it's not a dirt bike that is why they are good to learn on. It's the skills of loose surface riding, that translate to skills down the road that make you a better and safer rider. A dual sport certainly gets you the same skills. I would suggest a small dual sport is better than a dirt bike to learn on, since a lot of the dirt bikes have a different power band. The dual sports are usually a much broader and easier to ride torque band, and aren't as snappy with the throttle. The thing is so good about learning about the dirt, is you learn how to handle riding out the rear wheel lock ups, and what it feels like when the back end moves around. Learning rear wheel lock ups, and power slides, on a sport bike, is a great way to high side and hurt yourself.
That's a good point man! Duel sport would be a bit easier.
I do wish I'd had a bit of dirt experience before I got the road. Like you said, rear wheel slides and fishtails happen, and that dirt experience would have made them a bit less surprising.
Yay, you finally did a jump-off! Thanks for the shout-out too, but flamboyant, really? :D
I was going to say energetic! But I knew you get a kick out of me saying flamboyant!! You can hear me giggle about it in the video!
How does giving shout-outs work? React/respond to a video and mention the original persons name? I’m so new to all of this 😂
@@WolfyFam If you do a ( mention ), you are usually just saying that persons name or channel name. Or both. If you do a full Shout-out, you are really trying to bring attention to that persons channel, and it's best to either put their logo or channel banner on the screen. ( If you know how ).
But for both shout out or mention, you should put a link to their channel in the description so people can get to their channel easily.
@@WolfyFam Yeah, pretty much. If you mention someone in your video, or talk about their channel, that's a shout-out. Whether it's in response to something [like a comment they made] or not. It's a good idea to @ them in the video description, too, so they get notified of it.
@@KODEGREY HAHA... I DO have a flair for the dramatic, do I not?
I learned on a dirt bike. Grew up on several acres of land and we had trails all over. Good way to learn the basics…but definitely different than riding on the street.
Definitely different kind of riding. But I'm sure you were more comfortable getting on the streets since you had some experience riding already.
I think dirt bikes are a great way from young riders to learn to ride (early teens). It introduces them to balance, shifting, clutch control, braking in a more forgiving environment than the road. I rode dirt before I could legally ride street and had some valuable skills when I could get on the road.
For adults I would suggest starting on a dual sport if you have access to an off road area to learn. They are smaller, lighter, usually cheaper to buy and fix if you go down. MSF course would be advised too.
Totally agree!! Dirt bikes are great for kids to learn on. Especially if you live in an area where they can have a lot of room to have fun.
MSF course is a must!! I always recommend that!
I came from dirt riding on a farm. Very valid points on access to riding land theses days. Yes I have stumbled upon plantations that well technically should be where they were ...lol
Me and a friend accidentally stumbled across a field of ( stuff ) once. We cut down an old dirt road as a short cut. Apparently it was still in use! 😂
@@KODEGREY oops 😬 pretty much the same with us way up in the mountains 🤣😂
I think so , Dirt bikes and mini bikes is what I rode as a kid 🇺🇸👍👍👍
Awesome to learn on. It's just getting so difficult to find a place to ride them.
First bike I rode was a Yamaha 125 Trail bike in '1980. Then a buddy got a '84 YZ 80 and let me rip that around all the time. What a blast. I might buy a used Sur Ron if the price is right.
In a way I wouldn't mind having a dirt bike to mess around on. But I have no garage and no desire to do all the maintenance either.
I love dirt bikes, lightweight, torquey, loud (most of the time) 😂 but you’re spot on they can be very needy maintenance wise.
Man Americans are super protective of their property. Over here in the UK, someone could park on your drive and legally there’s nothing you can do about it 😂
That’s crazy what people do on government land 😬 people are mad 😂
Great video mate, well spoken 🤘
Dirt bikes are a blast! Especially if you have a good place to ride it!
Over here if you park in someone's driveway, expect to get towed at your expense!
@@KODEGREY the way it should be, over here it’s just dog eat dog, no one respects anyone or anything
Dirt bikes are fun. It's been quite a while since I've rode one though. I have no idea where to even ride one around here.
Same for me. I'd have no idea where to go that isn't private property.
We have people growing special things in our State forests and National Parks also.
A friend of mine used to live on a farm. His dad grew corn. Someone tried growing weed in his cornfield hoping he wouldn't notice. 😂. And no it wasn't my friend or me! 😂.
well now I wanna go find the magic plants!
You are more than welcome to try. But you may end up in a scene from Deliverance!! 😂
I reckon to learn and have a good amount of time on a proper dirt bike could be quite invaluable KG especially if your that young person who might not be quite old enough to get on the road ,it's gonna give you some good grounding in the bike being loose and moving around a lot underneath the rider great for building confidence in handling .But as you say KG maintainance and such like is not cheap but if you can do it before road riding it's good, unfortunately not so many folks can do it that way good one .👍
I wish I'd had a bit of dirt experience before I got on the road. I actually think it would have given me a bit more confidence when I first started riding in the rain.
@@KODEGREY Absolutly right there mate I reckon people who ride dirt would be much more relaxed on the wet roads should their be any movement in the bike 😉👍
So I did learn on a dirt bike... a 1984 suzuki dr100. The problem is I went from around age 15 to 33 or 34 before I rode a again so I lost all of those skills and feels I had. But if I would have started riding a few years after riding a dirt bike then yes it would have helped.
That's definitely a big gap in-between. I bet you felt rusty for sure. I would have loved to have had dirt bikes when I was young. But couldn't really afford it. And had limited places to ride anyway.
@@KODEGREY yea being 6ft at 15 i had outgrew that bike and I didn't have but a small summer job and my parents couldn't afford it and getting me a vehicle ,1984 S10 blazier, after i had turned 16. And yes I felt really rusty.
All valid points, but if you want to learn how to stay on a bike that's breaking loose, Dirt is the best way to learn. Not saying learning on a road bike is bad. I learned to ride as a child on a farm bike in the school ground behind my house. Yes the police came twice and stopped me. Hahahaha. Then I was lucky enough to ride around on a 5 acre property.
That's exactly one of the things I wish I had more experience with...tires breaking loose. It's happened to me a few times on the road and I was ok, but having that dirt experience would have made it a bit less surprising.
I learnt to ride on a street bike, on dirt 🤣 A Yamaha FS1E on a farm. We destroyed it over a couple of years and got a trail bike. No dodgy plantations either 😮👍🏼
😂😂. You thought ( Dirt tires?? Nahhh...give me some street tires for that mud!! ) 😂.
Bet that trail bike was a blast!
@@KODEGREY 🤣 truth is, I didn’t know any better at the time 🤦🏻♂️
Would rather work on a dirtbike than a road bike, 3 years with my Beta 390RR enduro bike have been the easiest of any bike to look after.... folk get all bent out of shape by the service schedule... but it really isn't an issue unless you are racing in MX at competition level or riding hard enduro... but kicking around a field on one really doesn't stress the engine while learning.
Saying that, I'd not recommend a sportbike, cruiser or dirtbike to learn on... a streetbike is far more sensible, upright riding position, good turning circle, cheap to crash and solid reliability.
Ok, I can't argue that point. I'd rather work on a dirt bike than a street bike myself.
Also agree about learning on a standard street bike. But these last couple videos were for those people who are dead set on getting certain type of bike. Not necessarily the best to learn on.
@@KODEGREY Ahh I get that mate, is why I made the comment about streetbikes... we have very different learner laws in the UK to the USA, so I know out there, people can pretty much ride anything.... over here, we are restricted on what bikes we can ride when new to it all for at least 2 years, possibly 4!
*promosm* 🌈