I feel like both side aren’t 100% true. But I feel mike is a way better person. I have seen the videos of other people having the same problem with you like mike has had. So all I want to say is stop being a liar.
I trust Mike you never leave a man behind especially in an unfamiliar place and getting a bigger engine isn't fair because it defeats the purpose of the show that's like bringing a dodge to a ford truck show it just doesn't make sense.
If your friend breaks down in the dunes you help him no matter how far you are it only takes a little bit out of your day to make sure he gets back and can fix his bike to enjoy the ride too
bro, i drive out to the desert, your bike breaks down, if i see you i will make sure your ok, but to ruin your trip cause he cant build a reliable bike????nahhhhh,
Dude we all get that and I stand by that, but let’s be real, the Sabo 250r has only had issues every time they tried taking it out. There is gonna be a breaking point where your not gonna waste a trip to the dunes and ride.
No I wouldn’t either I agree with you on that but that’s not what I said , these machines are high strung power makers not the most reliable machine (don’t take me the wrong way but their not old diesel tactors) they break down and more times then not when we’re not expecting them to ..... my main point is if your out on a trail riding with a group of “friends” and one of them or you break down you don’t leave them and just say welp to bad your on your own . Where I’m from and the trails I ride one trail can be 40 or 50 miles easy with long steep inclines and most often no cell phone service if you left someone in them condition your looking A very long walk with most likely spending the night . Sometimes we gotta change our plans to help a “friend “ might piss you off might hate it but the right thing to do is help if you can.... every situation is different I get that and shit happens if you leave someone in a stranded situation that’s on you
Just my opinion here guys and everyone see's things through there own eyes but I’m sure there’s at least one thing everyone agrees to ain’t to much better then just getting out and riden these machines tearing shit up ... hell yea yee yee
I believe Sabo is getting a little "too big" for his britches. If he doesn't get something for free he doesn't need you anymore type mentality. Which is laughable. When you're still living at home and working out of the parents garage, you haven't exactly "made it."
So your telling us that because he broke you could not help him or even tow him back so you left him with no way to get back i bet if that was you he would have towed you back and helped you get your stuff fixed
Justin not letting Mike use his phone should tell everyone all they need to know about this story. I could pretty much fill in the blanks after hearing that...
Its hard to say someone did nothing wrong without you being apart of the situation and knowing for a fact what occurred between both parties, point blank. At this point you're side choosing for a like or comment lol
@@teamwoodswarriorsracing2004 I was shut down on I-40 in New Mexico 🇲🇽 other than that I would not have even commented or read as many of the comments. You right tho😂
If I went riding that far away with a group of "friends" and my shit broke down I'd tell em go on I'll see u back at the truck. I'd get a tow or something but no way I'd expect them to stay right by my side and not enjoy their ride.
Well, I’d say mike shoulda left the last 20seconds out of his video. I think mike has his right to stick up for himself, the fact that this guy turdhill or whatever his name is does this to people often enough that there’s multiple videos out of TH-cam and other platforms saying how awful this man is says a lot.
I really think that both of you have done things that haven’t been the smartest or the nicest in the past. However I chant really pick a side on this due to that reason. But I enjoy watching both of your TH-cam channels because they each have their own style.
They didn't leave him alone. Just because Mikes bike is a pos cuz hes a shitty mechanic doesnt mean they all had to wait for him. There was 10 other people.
Well that sucks... It's hard to find quad buddies at our advanced age... It may be the USMC talking but if I get left behind im gettin hammered and rubbin one out.... Adapt and overcome
I found your Channel through sabo's channel and I find myself liking yours better. You guys had a pretty slick thing going. Sad he had to ruin it for so many people. Focus on your channel, I plan to support you.
Mike should really be ashamed of himself... He let all the top quad fans down on something that was finally bringing light to the sport quad community, and ultimately showed his true colors in being a real one-way dirtbag. Certainly won't be tuning in to watching his videos in the future.
@@johnnysprockets9545 I've seen enough. Justin is a clearly a good guy and spent several hours of his time helping Mike finish his quad and for him to screw Justin over like that was a slap in the face.
@@firstname5418 like I said get both sides before you judge there's alot more to the story then you kno mike will Address it when he gets back from Texas
It’s like high school girls drama. Riding and racing is supposed to be fun you shouldn’t be all pissy about little things. Sometimes it’s frustrating when stuff breaks but it’s not other people’s responsibility to fix your stuff.
You did nothing wrong Justin. Top Quad or not I will continue watching. Your quad builds are awesome! Your tool reviews are honest truth. Your dump truck fleet is the nicest I've personally seen. Keep doing the great job that you have been doing. We support you 100%
Sabos loss. The eBay stuff just write it up as a life lesson. take the life Lesson and roll on your better than that. You did everything you could to help the guy that’s all you can do. If he can’t see that his loss. One thing I like about your videos no bs straight up truth and having fun.
Let me understand this, all the people kept riding after the machine broke down for the umpteenth time. Did he carry it his shoulders or drag it through the sand 🏜 back to the truck? How did he get from the dunes to the truck if they left him behind? I’m confused 🤷 Blake crashed and got all kinds of messed up but I haven’t seen him saying anything about being abandoned or mistreated. Even if you say Justin or Blake had a responsibility to stop participating in the event and failed in that responsibility, how does that account for the fact that ERBODY kept riding? Did he call triple A or something? If all his friends abandoned him, how did the quad get off the dunes?
2 things I see here Mike and Justin are both good ppl. Mike wants to build a business where Justin already has one. Mike can't compete on the lvl your asking bc he doesn't have those resources, this actually is what's making him mad bc he winds up looking like the dope of the show, hence his shit breaking all the time . If your going to be friends and ride do that and let the money trickle in, if your going to be a cut throat don't bother and go separate ways.
One time me and like 5 buddies drove 3.5 hrs to go riding. One of the guys wrecked doing a wheelie and went back and sat in the truck while we rode for half the day. Turned out he had a broken collar bone lol. He never complained though in our defense!
100% if you helped me and bought tools for me to use and used your truck and trailer to get to and from Oklahoma I would do whatever I could to help you out but that’s how I’ve been raised.
I watched sabo first. Now I watch you. Your definitely more real and down to earth. Sabo is just better at editing and "marketing" himself. Youve worked hard to get where you are and it shows. Shouldn't worry about someone like him. Just take this as a lesson and move on. Keep on driver! Also I think you should do your own top quad if thats what it comes to so as not to waste your 400ex. Im sure you could get another couple guys together pretty easily
I'm going to be honest I came here after Mike's video. Now that I've heard both sides I'm kinda on your side dude. As soon as you mentioned that Mike said something about not doing anything with stupid fast anymore it kinda hit me. John addressed that in a video that people were asking why he hasn't done anything with Sabo and his honest answer was he didn't know. Now I see it because after that all of the sudden after a year Sabo shows up in his videos again. I truly enjoy stupid fast John and can't believe his channel hasn't taken off. I'm subbed to him and if I ask him a question in the comments he actually answers. That's a true dude. Anyway I do like Sabos content to a degree but seems to me that he has a record of writing people off if it doesn't benefit him. But then again that's life.
Exactly bro, you read my mind. Sounds like a bunch of drama to me but mikes ego seems like it gets worse with time, the small shot of fame is getting to him.
You are exactly right! If you go on a trip far away and don't bring a spare machine and your shit breaks down that's your problem, I'd sure as hell tell my buds to go keep riding. If it was more then a few day trip and a lax trip I'd help my buds try to fix their machine and hope they'd do the same to some extent. if it's a short busy trip that's costing others money to not do what they came for then it's back to you guys ride I can fix my own shit if it's not major problems but then again bring a spare machine.
Justin, I don’t know what to say about those 2 other channels that called you out and said you are a bully, I haven’t looked into it. But I watched Michael’s vid and I came to yours after. Seems like Michael is very sensitive. You seem like you are an old fashioned dude. I am not even subscribed to you and I’ve been subbed to Michael a couple years but I gotta say that I’m on your side. Michael is a hypocrite to not understand where your coming from with not giving out your personal number if he won’t answer normal every day people in Instagram unless they have a following. On another note, As a viewer I’ve been waiting to see some badass content from Michael as far as riding the 250r. Every time it’s been an issue. As a viewer it’s getting annoying and if I was in yours shoes I would have done the same thing. You made it clear you wanted to make content at the dunes and once again Michael’s quad was having issues. He really didn’t have much to go off of in his vid about besides you leaving him at the dunes and you not wanting to give the personal phone. I messaged Michael on insta for his little series about his fans quads. I have a fully built 05 Trx 450r. It was Joe Byrds old practice quad. I haven’t gotten a response yet after a year plus. Just keep doing your thing man, it seems like I’m the end Michael was looking for more of a buisness type relationship and he prioritized making content when his quad kept fucking up. You were just being an old fashioned guy and keeping things real. If the tables were turned I think Michael would feel the same way you are feeling. You got a new subscriber man. Michael kept talking about having good character and good personality whatever. In the end it seems like he was more of a hypocrite then anything.
From my point of view it is pretty easy to see what’s going on. Seems to be dealing with an adult (Justin) and a kid(mike). I just sold my 250R but enjoy watching your videos. Keep it up.
I don’t know why mike is so pissed off about the dune thing. You roost each other to have fun and fuck with each other all the time. It’s how you have fun as friends. You did nothing wrong Justin.
Obviously I don’t know Michael Sabo but I believe that you’ve done absolutely nothing wrong, he feels slighted for something....like getting roosted in the dunes, c’mon man that’s just having fun. You’ve been a stand up man with me Justin. Keep cool man!!!👍😪
Sorry to hear! What a crappy thing to do when you go out of your way to help him. At the end of the day, it should just be about friends having a good time with their quads. It would be one thing if you broke down and needed a tow back to the truck. I would just hang back and let the boys have fun.
Watched mikes vid. Came here to comment in support of mike. After watching this video I don’t know what to think. It was messed up leaving him behind but other than that I can’t judge someone till I meet them myself. I’ll see you at fast traxx when I recover from my surgery. My friend with the blue YFZ says your a nice guy. I’ll take his word for it.
That’s fucked up man sounds to me those reasons were made up just to kick you out sounds to me he wanted somebody else to be in it...,.....that’s messed up bc before you met him I put him in the comments a few times when you needed he’lp a few times and I really liked mike this might be a changer on watching him
@@johnnysprockets9545 id like to know the other side. Hopefully Mike will put something out as well. I like both of these guys and hate to see some miscommunication or poor choices ruin a good thing.
Always had quads & I've changed over to sxs but still love quads & I see he had a sxs on his channel so I watched ,I realize he does what I have done for years & got my interest., it took about 3 episodes before I realized he was exactly what you are talking about so I quit watching, then top quad came out & I watched, loved it! Now I hear this , no surprise, I would have the same reaction as you I'm sure , I'm going to watch your stuff now .
I’m subscribed to you and mike but if you post an hour long video I’ll wish it was 2 hours long. If mike posts a 30 minute video I’ll watch 10 minutes of his. I’m glad that I found your channel driver. I’ll prolly be unsubscribing from mikes channel after this elementary school drama he’s causing. Your not in the wrong you are the real deal!
I just watched the response video but didn’t see the response. I saw a compilation of people who are saying why didn’t like you 2 years ago. But I didn’t see a direct recollection of the same events but with a different outcome. That’s a proper counter argument. Example Mama: Your teacher said that you didn’t do your homework 📄 Me: I did my homework 📄 but I forgot to turn it in.
Real friends are hard to find these days bud. I totally get why you’re pissed. I can’t stand it when a person will do everything he can for somebody just to get shit on in the end. I can’t believe he charged you for selling parts. Bottom line is real friends help friends out without having to gain anything out of it. Your better off without that fucktard bud.
Justin you didn’t do a thing wrong it sounds like Mike’s got a little problem with people and needs to work on it the only thing you’ve been is literally bending over backwards to help him out and then come to find out that the dude didn’t even give you all your money for the parts that he sold for u I think you’re better off without him buddy
Justin spent so much money trying to help this dude out out of the kindness of his heart with his time that he put it on the quad and the time that he’s been away from his family helping that dude out fuck that Justin’s better off without him and he makes better contact with out sabo is a joke but it also seems like Justin is always fixing Sabo stuff why doesn’t he fix his own stuff but Justin said it’s better to be prepared
You probably did shit wrong who doesn’t, but Mike comes off as a guy who lives entirely between the pages of a ATV magazine and regurgitates the back of the box of any parts he buys while orgasming. He does part reviews, which is sorely needed on TH-cam, but it screams the quad equivalent to under lights and cold air intakes. Quad TH-cam needs some more real atv content creation and not just infomercials, and JST you seem to do a better job at that then everyone else so... maybe link up with pro am racers and fabrication shops for TH-cam series on hybrids or some shit.
The reason Mike is mad is cuz he doesn't have adult problems yet..... house, wife kids etc. In saying that I still like both you guys and keep up the great vids
I agree with you for the most part but you just don’t leave your friends behind when riding you at least make sure they get back to camp and the cell phone thing is very complicated because both sides have different story’s
Bro you expected him to label, list and ebay that stuff for free? common bro. half is a good deal instead of sitting around collecting dust. hope you guys work it out.
Was he broken down at camp or a mile from camp? If i were broke at camp i wouldn’t expect everyone to stay behind but I’d like a tow back to camp before you continue the group ride if i were a mile or so out and I’d be cool with working on it alone.
That’s a shame Justin I don’t think you did anything real bad ! Mike should have told you how he felt Obviously Mike got real upset on the dunes , he feels you left him out to dry though I understand where your coming from too . Don’t forget he’s much younger than you bro and he felt hurt you probably didn’t know he’s quite deep / sensitive . Your both good guys if you can please come together shake hands and talk it through for the good of the sport Like it or not your both ambassadors 👍
I dont watch much of Sabo's stuff, kind of find it boring to be honest. Id say screw him and do you own shit with quads, youll have better content in the end anyways. There are other guys out there that you could collaborate with
From the beginning top quad was meant to show on a low budget that any Joe shmow could get a quad and have a great time I hate that top quad isn't going to happen I really looked for to seeing more and maybe someday meet the crew so I can learn to do what you guys do and still travel and get away from southern Illinois
It seems REALLY hard to believe mike would do that to you... maybe he’s just trying to play a sick prank on you? Maybe he’s planning on giving you the 400ex he just bought? I’m not sure. Maybe he is just an asshole.
Sure Justin might be in the wrong about leaving him behind but you have to look at it from his point of view he jumped over hurdles to get mikes quad running and he just wanted to relax and ride not mess with mikes quad even more and mike not wanting to talk about the problems when they happened it’s obvious who’s grown and who’s not
Don't know the details, but if you rode on w/o him and you guys were going to use the video footage of the ride for your youtube channel business you have together, I could see how he might accuse you of excluding him. If you don't have a collaborative channel you are sharing...well...keep moving on and leave him behind. Life is too short to deal with obsessive control people. PS. You might want to have close buddies who have your same scope of economic scale. Often times it is not a good match if one person is constantly trying to match someone else's economic went they cant. Bad vibes erupt. Cheers Dude
That’s a bummer to hear man I thought you guys had a good thing starting to go on hopefully you guys can have a sit down i’ll work it out one day soon👉🏻👍🏻
Ya man Whatever I would drop em his loss u seem like a chill dude nothing beats the hey TH-cam makes my day !! Idk why people are like that these days unbelievable😂
I am totally on mike's side with getting left in the desert. But I would've asked for like 50 bucks at most not half. Edit: I really hate seeing everyone want to unsub. Y'all both make great content and just cuz you might not see eye to eye on everything doesn't mean the sport quad community should split. What ever happened to saving sport quads everyone?
@@wow-zc8cr Is that an attack? If the dudes a grown man living at home that is kinda odd. I guess more money for toys, but obviously still on mommy's teat
@@jeffgayzose8129 well is he "taking care of his parents"? I thought he was leaving town for awhile. Sounds like a free loader, and always got poser vibes from the guy. He can't even launch a bike with looping out
Wow this situation sucks...My 2 cents is this.....I’ve loved this channel for a long time now. From the snap on reviews, to the dump truck repairs to now the atv content. One constant through out all of it was you. You are a very straight forward, tell it how it is, aggressive personality. The story about you guys leaving him in the dunes I call bullshit on. Why bring it up now?. I just think he can’t take your personality and was looking for a excuse. Keep on with all the tool, dump truck, atv content driver !
It’s not your fault his turd popped. All that OCD paid off for him. Just because his quad broke down doesn’t mean everyone is down. Better luck next time we have all been there, start pushing! He builds a 17k R and is terrified to blow it up a motor that can easily be rebuilt obviously he can afford the best of the best. I stopped watching his content just because of him being a baby about everything. I wish I had the guts “funds” to get on TH-cam I’d collab with you anytime Driver.. Love the content keep it coming.
I feel like both side aren’t 100% true. But I feel mike is a way better person. I have seen the videos of other people having the same problem with you like mike has had. So all I want to say is stop being a liar.
I trust Mike you never leave a man behind especially in an unfamiliar place and getting a bigger engine isn't fair because it defeats the purpose of the show that's like bringing a dodge to a ford truck show it just doesn't make sense.
Exactly someone that agrees with me👍
hes gonna delete your comment watch
If your friend breaks down in the dunes you help him no matter how far you are it only takes a little bit out of your day to make sure he gets back and can fix his bike to enjoy the ride too
They didnt leave him alone. There was 10 people.
bro, i drive out to the desert, your bike breaks down, if i see you i will make sure your ok, but to ruin your trip cause he cant build a reliable bike????nahhhhh,
Buddy you don’t leave your buddies out regardless of what you wanna do (you never leave a rider ) what if that was you ?
Dude we all get that and I stand by that, but let’s be real, the Sabo 250r has only had issues every time they tried taking it out. There is gonna be a breaking point where your not gonna waste a trip to the dunes and ride.
If my bike wasn’t working I wouldn’t have my buddies wait at camp with me lol
No I wouldn’t either I agree with you on that but that’s not what I said , these machines are high strung power makers not the most reliable machine (don’t take me the wrong way but their not old diesel tactors) they break down and more times then not when we’re not expecting them to ..... my main point is if your out on a trail riding with a group of “friends” and one of them or you break down you don’t leave them and just say welp to bad your on your own . Where I’m from and the trails I ride one trail can be 40 or 50 miles easy with long steep inclines and most often no cell phone service if you left someone in them condition your looking A very long walk with most likely spending the night . Sometimes we gotta change our plans to help a “friend “ might piss you off might hate it but the right thing to do is help if you can.... every situation is different I get that and shit happens if you leave someone in a stranded situation that’s on you
Just my opinion here guys and everyone see's things through there own eyes but I’m sure there’s at least one thing everyone agrees to ain’t to much better then just getting out and riden these machines tearing shit up ... hell yea yee yee
I ride all the time, When I go with my boys we never leave anyone behind we stay together like a pack!
Its like an unwritten rule..
@@jeffandsarapirtle991 exactly 💯
Facts
Yeah and like Justin said someone turned around for him so what’s your point
@@ThePaintwurks someone? They all should have turned around and went back
I believe Sabo is getting a little "too big" for his britches. If he doesn't get something for free he doesn't need you anymore type mentality. Which is laughable. When you're still living at home and working out of the parents garage, you haven't exactly "made it."
You’re exactly right! He ran home to mommy and cried then called Blake and Justin to break up with them over the phone.
100%
Sounds like a flaming case of the crybabies and sissybitches.
MOM, MEATLOAF!
If you know the guy was broke down you shouldn't have left him there. Especially if you said he was your friend.
So your telling us that because he broke you could not help him or even tow him back so you left him with no way to get back i bet if that was you he would have towed you back and helped you get your stuff fixed
fuck you
@Yo Joe justin is fucked up not gonna lie. Go watch mikes video.
Don’t sweat it driver. It only cost you a couple dollars to get rid of him! Keep it moving. You tried His loss.
Justin not letting Mike use his phone should tell everyone all they need to know about this story. I could pretty much fill in the blanks after hearing that...
He’s lying bruh lmaoo. This guy is full of shit
i like how you’re deleting every positive comment for Michael. He’s a cool guy, he did nothing wrong.
Where’s the proof of deleted comments? Oh, it was deleted right?
Its hard to say someone did nothing wrong without you being apart of the situation and knowing for a fact what occurred between both parties, point blank. At this point you're side choosing for a like or comment lol
@@teamwoodswarriorsracing2004
I was shut down on I-40 in New Mexico 🇲🇽 other than that I would not have even commented or read as many of the comments. You right tho😂
If I went riding that far away with a group of "friends" and my shit broke down I'd tell em go on I'll see u back at the truck. I'd get a tow or something but no way I'd expect them to stay right by my side and not enjoy their ride.
Agree!
Yep. We go back and check with them from time to time but we don’t stop the day
At least offer to help him back to camp, but I agree. If I drive several hours to ride I’m going to ride
Right! That’s something a woman 👩 would get mad 😡 about. You or I or any other MAN 👨 would have just dealt with it.
Selfish fuck. Doesn't even deserve to be roosted because that's what friends do to each other!
Both you and Mike should be embarrassed for posting videos like this
Well, I’d say mike shoulda left the last 20seconds out of his video. I think mike has his right to stick up for himself, the fact that this guy turdhill or whatever his name is does this to people often enough that there’s multiple videos out of TH-cam and other platforms saying how awful this man is says a lot.
Grown ass men acting like junior high girls.
I think you're ok. However I have to agree with Mike on the sense you just leaving him there in the dunes doesn't sound very cool.
Ya but multiple people did the same
I really think that both of you have done things that haven’t been the smartest or the nicest in the past. However I chant really pick a side on this due to that reason. But I enjoy watching both of your TH-cam channels because they each have their own style.
Rule #1 never leave anyone behind in the dunes! You all go out together, you all make it back to camp...
Duh 🙄, they made it back to Ohio together 🤷♂️
Justin is the one that left mike behind in the middle of the dunes a 1 and a half mile away
They didn't leave him alone. Just because Mikes bike is a pos cuz hes a shitty mechanic doesnt mean they all had to wait for him. There was 10 other people.
Well that sucks... It's hard to find quad buddies at our advanced age... It may be the USMC talking but if I get left behind im gettin hammered and rubbin one out.... Adapt and overcome
I’m with you on that it is like I wish I could find more people my age that’s why I like hanging out with Zak because he just wants to go ride
Justin don’t worry about it! No sweat off your balls! This generation is a bunch of pussies! Keep up the awesome videos!
@@stevenkeller5598 He’s just a dick. That’s why it’s hard for him to have friends
I found your Channel through sabo's channel and I find myself liking yours better. You guys had a pretty slick thing going. Sad he had to ruin it for so many people. Focus on your channel, I plan to support you.
Mike should really be ashamed of himself... He let all the top quad fans down on something that was finally bringing light to the sport quad community, and ultimately showed his true colors in being a real one-way dirtbag. Certainly won't be tuning in to watching his videos in the future.
Theres 2 sides to each story there my friend get them both before you judge
@@johnnysprockets9545 I've seen enough. Justin is a clearly a good guy and spent several hours of his time helping Mike finish his quad and for him to screw Justin over like that was a slap in the face.
@@firstname5418 like I said get both sides before you judge there's alot more to the story then you kno mike will Address it when he gets back from Texas
@@johnnysprockets9545 hey its always good to get both sides of every story when it comes down to money.
@@johnnysprockets9545 what is the full Story Johnny since you seem to know because that’s what I was told
It’s like high school girls drama. Riding and racing is supposed to be fun you shouldn’t be all pissy about little things. Sometimes it’s frustrating when stuff breaks but it’s not other people’s responsibility to fix your stuff.
You did nothing wrong Justin. Top Quad or not I will continue watching. Your quad builds are awesome! Your tool reviews are honest truth. Your dump truck fleet is the nicest I've personally seen. Keep doing the great job that you have been doing. We support you 100%
Sabos loss. The eBay stuff just write it up as a life lesson. take the life Lesson and roll on your better than that. You did everything you could to help the guy that’s all you can do. If he can’t see that his loss. One thing I like about your videos no bs straight up truth and having fun.
This is simple... Trademark, send cease and desist letter and carry on with top quad.
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bammm !!!!!! that just happened !!!!
Let me understand this, all the people kept riding after the machine broke down for the umpteenth time. Did he carry it his shoulders or drag it through the sand 🏜 back to the truck? How did he get from the dunes to the truck if they left him behind? I’m confused 🤷
Blake crashed and got all kinds of messed up but I haven’t seen him saying anything about being abandoned or mistreated. Even if you say Justin or Blake had a responsibility to stop participating in the event and failed in that responsibility, how does that account for the fact that ERBODY kept riding? Did he call triple A or something? If all his friends abandoned him, how did the quad get off the dunes?
Apparently you have some videos to catch up on.
No, you didn't do anything wrong he is being weird.
2 things I see here
Mike and Justin are both good ppl.
Mike wants to build a business where Justin already has one. Mike can't compete on the lvl your asking bc he doesn't have those resources, this actually is what's making him mad bc he winds up looking like the dope of the show, hence his shit breaking all the time . If your going to be friends and ride do that and let the money trickle in, if your going to be a cut throat don't bother and go separate ways.
If you’re so standup why are you deleting comments??
Exactly 😂
One time me and like 5 buddies drove 3.5 hrs to go riding. One of the guys wrecked doing a wheelie and went back and sat in the truck while we rode for half the day. Turned out he had a broken collar bone lol. He never complained though in our defense!
If the guy can’t fix his own shit then don’t ride
100% if you helped me and bought tools for me to use and used your truck and trailer to get to and from Oklahoma I would do whatever I could to help you out but that’s how I’ve been raised.
That’s where I’m coming from too!
He's doing more than half the work on the parts
You guys are both awesome, shit happens. I hope you two can work things out🤘
I watched sabo first. Now I watch you. Your definitely more real and down to earth. Sabo is just better at editing and "marketing" himself. Youve worked hard to get where you are and it shows. Shouldn't worry about someone like him. Just take this as a lesson and move on. Keep on driver! Also I think you should do your own top quad if thats what it comes to so as not to waste your 400ex. Im sure you could get another couple guys together pretty easily
11:30 this is not true, I have asked him for advice about starting a TH-cam channel and he replied giving me helpful advice. Your making this up
He replied to me as well within a couple days
I'm going to be honest I came here after Mike's video. Now that I've heard both sides I'm kinda on your side dude. As soon as you mentioned that Mike said something about not doing anything with stupid fast anymore it kinda hit me. John addressed that in a video that people were asking why he hasn't done anything with Sabo and his honest answer was he didn't know. Now I see it because after that all of the sudden after a year Sabo shows up in his videos again. I truly enjoy stupid fast John and can't believe his channel hasn't taken off. I'm subbed to him and if I ask him a question in the comments he actually answers. That's a true dude. Anyway I do like Sabos content to a degree but seems to me that he has a record of writing people off if it doesn't benefit him. But then again that's life.
Exactly bro, you read my mind. Sounds like a bunch of drama to me but mikes ego seems like it gets worse with time, the small shot of fame is getting to him.
well to be honest it is like 4 ppl vs you... so i mean this stuff doesn't just happen 4 times in a row and it all gets blamed on this guy
I think Mike should have went public first. Sounds like a bunch of middle school drama. Jealousy tends to hurt relationships
How was top quad yours can you explain
Damn this is sad , Justin I got turned on to you by watching Mike’s channel. I cannot imagine top quad without you. You seem like an awesome person .
Love watching you guys work on stuff hope everything works out man God bless you and your family
Damn that’s fucked definitely on your side
You are exactly right! If you go on a trip far away and don't bring a spare machine and your shit breaks down that's your problem, I'd sure as hell tell my buds to go keep riding. If it was more then a few day trip and a lax trip I'd help my buds try to fix their machine and hope they'd do the same to some extent. if it's a short busy trip that's costing others money to not do what they came for then it's back to you guys ride I can fix my own shit if it's not major problems but then again bring a spare machine.
Justin, I don’t know what to say about those 2 other channels that called you out and said you are a bully, I haven’t looked into it. But I watched Michael’s vid and I came to yours after. Seems like Michael is very sensitive. You seem like you are an old fashioned dude. I am not even subscribed to you and I’ve been subbed to Michael a couple years but I gotta say that I’m on your side. Michael is a hypocrite to not understand where your coming from with not giving out your personal number if he won’t answer normal every day people in Instagram unless they have a following.
On another note, As a viewer I’ve been waiting to see some badass content from Michael as far as riding the 250r. Every time it’s been an issue. As a viewer it’s getting annoying and if I was in yours shoes I would have done the same thing. You made it clear you wanted to make content at the dunes and once again Michael’s quad was having issues. He really didn’t have much to go off of in his vid about besides you leaving him at the dunes and you not wanting to give the personal phone.
I messaged Michael on insta for his little series about his fans quads. I have a fully built 05 Trx 450r. It was Joe Byrds old practice quad. I haven’t gotten a response yet after a year plus.
Just keep doing your thing man, it seems like I’m the end Michael was looking for more of a buisness type relationship and he prioritized making content when his quad kept fucking up. You were just being an old fashioned guy and keeping things real. If the tables were turned I think Michael would feel the same way you are feeling. You got a new subscriber man. Michael kept talking about having good character and good personality whatever. In the end it seems like he was more of a hypocrite then anything.
110% agree
Justin all the fucking way, I have been watching this channel since it was called "The snap-on junkie"! I ain't defecting.
I’m definitely team Justin
I don't think it's good to take teams here
That’s fucked up that mike did that. I’m with justin
Mike started top quad not this pos
@@420motoripper2 haha that’s hilarious 😂🖕🏻
From my point of view it is pretty easy to see what’s going on. Seems to be dealing with an adult (Justin) and a kid(mike). I just sold my 250R but enjoy watching your videos. Keep it up.
Top quad is officially cancelled. Top punch on ppv coming up next
I don’t know why mike is so pissed off about the dune thing. You roost each other to have fun and fuck with each other all the time. It’s how you have fun as friends. You did nothing wrong Justin.
Obviously I don’t know Michael Sabo but I believe that you’ve done absolutely nothing wrong, he feels slighted for something....like getting roosted in the dunes, c’mon man that’s just having fun. You’ve been a stand up man with me Justin. Keep cool man!!!👍😪
Sorry to hear! What a crappy thing to do when you go out of your way to help him. At the end of the day, it should just be about friends having a good time with their quads. It would be one thing if you broke down and needed a tow back to the truck. I would just hang back and let the boys have fun.
Stop spreading negativity
Watched mikes vid. Came here to comment in support of mike. After watching this video I don’t know what to think. It was messed up leaving him behind but other than that I can’t judge someone till I meet them myself. I’ll see you at fast traxx when I recover from my surgery. My friend with the blue YFZ says your a nice guy. I’ll take his word for it.
That’s fucked up man sounds to me those reasons were made up just to kick you out sounds to me he wanted somebody else to be in it...,.....that’s messed up bc before you met him I put him in the comments a few times when you needed he’lp a few times and I really liked mike this might be a changer on watching him
You only got one side of the story my friend
@@johnnysprockets9545 id like to know the other side. Hopefully Mike will put something out as well. I like both of these guys and hate to see some miscommunication or poor choices ruin a good thing.
@@johnnysprockets9545 do you know the other side of the story am happy to listen
Always had quads & I've changed over to sxs but still love quads & I see he had a sxs on his channel so I watched ,I realize he does what I have done for years & got my interest., it took about 3 episodes before I realized he was exactly what you are talking about so I quit watching, then top quad came out & I watched, loved it! Now I hear this , no surprise, I would have the same reaction as you I'm sure , I'm going to watch your stuff now .
I’m subscribed to you and mike but if you post an hour long video I’ll wish it was 2 hours long. If mike posts a 30 minute video I’ll watch 10 minutes of his. I’m glad that I found your channel driver. I’ll prolly be unsubscribing from mikes channel after this elementary school drama he’s causing. Your not in the wrong you are the real deal!
I just watched the response video but didn’t see the response. I saw a compilation of people who are saying why didn’t like you 2 years ago. But I didn’t see a direct recollection of the same events but with a different outcome. That’s a proper counter argument.
Example
Mama: Your teacher said that you didn’t do your homework 📄
Me: I did my homework 📄 but I forgot to turn it in.
Homie should learn to be vocal about his problems but get that 400 up and keep in truckin
Well fuck it, I really don't give a fuck. Lol i will continue to smoke this weed and watch both channels. Life Goes On!!
Love Sabos content but JST makes shit entertaining 👌
With the both of them together it really made the top quad series awesome to watch! This new bullshit is not going to even come close!
You nailed that
Your all a bunch of grown men acting like girls SOOO COOOOL
Can you say JEALOUS of JST
Living in your parents house at the age of 29, say's all we need to know.
Dude he does live with his parents?? I kinda had a feeling he did. He seems like a spoiled arrogant little baby
Real friends are hard to find these days bud. I totally get why you’re pissed. I can’t stand it when a person will do everything he can for somebody just to get shit on in the end. I can’t believe he charged you for selling parts. Bottom line is real friends help friends out without having to gain anything out of it. Your better off without that fucktard bud.
I still like mike and gonna watch his video and see his side
Seeing Micheals side of the story puts this on a whole different perspective. No wander why other TH-cam channels rant about this guy
Justin you didn’t do a thing wrong it sounds like Mike’s got a little problem with people and needs to work on it the only thing you’ve been is literally bending over backwards to help him out and then come to find out that the dude didn’t even give you all your money for the parts that he sold for u I think you’re better off without him buddy
Yeah man, he wudda got his wig split if that was any other than Justin for taking half his money.
@@kevinlamarr1424 I agree Kevin Justin is a good dude mike is like a little kid with the shit he said to Justin
@@josephpokoy4205
He was just face to face with him. He’s one of those people who can only confront someone over the phone/internet. No people skills.
I agree Kevin Mike is just showing to everybody on the Internet that no one should work with him because he’s a little crybaby
Justin spent so much money trying to help this dude out out of the kindness of his heart with his time that he put it on the quad and the time that he’s been away from his family helping that dude out fuck that Justin’s better off without him and he makes better contact with out sabo is a joke but it also seems like Justin is always fixing Sabo stuff why doesn’t he fix his own stuff but Justin said it’s better to be prepared
Never really was a big fan of the top quad stuff myself took away from the build video's
Why delete the comment?
You probably did shit wrong who doesn’t, but Mike comes off as a guy who lives entirely between the pages of a ATV magazine and regurgitates the back of the box of any parts he buys while orgasming.
He does part reviews, which is sorely needed on TH-cam, but it screams the quad equivalent to under lights and cold air intakes.
Quad TH-cam needs some more real atv content creation and not just infomercials, and JST you seem to do a better job at that then everyone else so... maybe link up with pro am racers and fabrication shops for TH-cam series on hybrids or some shit.
I notice how you use the words “My” and “I” a lot.....
Don't think he meant that in a good way there Justin 😂
As all narcissists do
The reason Mike is mad is cuz he doesn't have adult problems yet..... house, wife kids etc. In saying that I still like both you guys and keep up the great vids
I don’t think you did anything wrong. Mike seems childish and self righteous.
Justin, You are a genuine good person. It shows through on your videos. Not so much with this other dude.
Sounds like Sabo needed the parts money to pay for his trip to Dave Moore's - to get more free handouts!
I agree with you for the most part but you just don’t leave your friends behind when riding you at least make sure they get back to camp and the cell phone thing is very complicated because both sides have different story’s
I just watched this again did you say you’re putting Yamaha YZ 490 engine in a quad???? CAN WE FOCUS ON THAT!!!?😲😲😲👌👌👌🙏
Bro you expected him to label, list and ebay that stuff for free? common bro. half is a good deal instead of sitting around collecting dust. hope you guys work it out.
Team SABO
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I don't think u did a fucking thing and I am a sabo fan but no way ur not wrong
I could picture Mike doing that. Seems like its his personality. I still like watching both of you. But seems like a tough person to work with.
Was he broken down at camp or a mile from camp? If i were broke at camp i wouldn’t expect everyone to stay behind but I’d like a tow back to camp before you continue the group ride if i were a mile or so out and I’d be cool with working on it alone.
I am sorry big dawg, hang in there. I keep thinking I should build me another 500 and come ride with you but then I realize I am old.
I'm still with you Justin we old fucks stick together
Woohoo go Michael saving my favorite youtuber
That’s a shame Justin
I don’t think you did anything real bad !
Mike should have told you how he felt Obviously Mike got real upset on the dunes , he feels you left him out to dry though I understand where your coming from too .
Don’t forget he’s much younger than you bro and he felt hurt you probably didn’t know he’s quite deep / sensitive .
Your both good guys if you can please come together shake hands and talk it through for the good of the sport
Like it or not your both ambassadors 👍
Totally agree.
I dont watch much of Sabo's stuff, kind of find it boring to be honest. Id say screw him and do you own shit with quads, youll have better content in the end anyways. There are other guys out there that you could collaborate with
From the beginning top quad was meant to show on a low budget that any Joe shmow could get a quad and have a great time I hate that top quad isn't going to happen I really looked for to seeing more and maybe someday meet the crew so I can learn to do what you guys do and still travel and get away from southern Illinois
It seems REALLY hard to believe mike would do that to you... maybe he’s just trying to play a sick prank on you? Maybe he’s planning on giving you the 400ex he just bought? I’m not sure. Maybe he is just an asshole.
He’s on his period is what’s wrong. I’ve seen this behavior before.. about once a month.. from my wife.
Sure Justin might be in the wrong about leaving him behind but you have to look at it from his point of view he jumped over hurdles to get mikes quad running and he just wanted to relax and ride not mess with mikes quad even more and mike not wanting to talk about the problems when they happened it’s obvious who’s grown and who’s not
Never let a rider behind, or at least i wouldn’t.
Don't know the details, but if you rode on w/o him and you guys were going to use the video footage of the ride for your youtube channel business you have together, I could see how he might accuse you of excluding him. If you don't have a collaborative channel you are sharing...well...keep moving on and leave him behind. Life is too short to deal with obsessive control people.
PS. You might want to have close buddies who have your same scope of economic scale. Often times it is not a good match if one person is constantly trying to match someone else's economic went they cant. Bad vibes erupt. Cheers Dude
That’s a bummer to hear man I thought you guys had a good thing starting to go on hopefully you guys can have a sit down i’ll work it out one day soon👉🏻👍🏻
Ya man Whatever I would drop em his loss u seem like a chill dude nothing beats the hey TH-cam makes my day !! Idk why people are like that these days unbelievable😂
True if he does write u back he says two words
He’s a big baby hopefully one of these days he’ll get his medicine taste I wouldn’t waste ur time with him just do what your doing !! I
I am totally on mike's side with getting left in the desert. But I would've asked for like 50 bucks at most not half.
Edit: I really hate seeing everyone want to unsub. Y'all both make great content and just cuz you might not see eye to eye on everything doesn't mean the sport quad community should split. What ever happened to saving sport quads everyone?
If your not in the top quad challenge that would suck !! You guys make great content.
Explains why he is still living at home with mommy and daddy. I would guess he is either the only child or youngest as well.
Thats not his house???
Why attack mike for?
Maybe he takes care of his parents or parent if one has died, plus it's economically smart.
@@wow-zc8cr Is that an attack? If the dudes a grown man living at home that is kinda odd. I guess more money for toys, but obviously still on mommy's teat
@@jeffgayzose8129 well is he "taking care of his parents"? I thought he was leaving town for awhile. Sounds like a free loader, and always got poser vibes from the guy. He can't even launch a bike with looping out
Wow this situation sucks...My 2 cents is this.....I’ve loved this channel for a long time now. From the snap on reviews, to the dump truck repairs to now the atv content. One constant through out all of it was you. You are a very straight forward, tell it how it is, aggressive personality. The story about you guys leaving him in the dunes I call bullshit on. Why bring it up now?. I just think he can’t take your personality and was looking for a excuse. Keep on with all the tool, dump truck, atv content driver !
Mike is snoooze fest anyway please keep the top quad series with out them it would be better with out mike and "mechanical hulk" hate that guy too
I agree.
It’s not your fault his turd popped. All that OCD paid off for him. Just because his quad broke down doesn’t mean everyone is down. Better luck next time we have all been there, start pushing! He builds a 17k R and is terrified to blow it up a motor that can easily be rebuilt obviously he can afford the best of the best. I stopped watching his content just because of him being a baby about everything. I wish I had the guts “funds” to get on TH-cam I’d collab with you anytime Driver.. Love the content keep it coming.
Fake always runs from real. Some people just suck. You’re steaming pile of a 450r was the best part of top quad
It actually was the comic relief of that series
That really sucks Justin. What ever you build or not on TopQuad we will watch. Lets do discussion on next Live Q&A!