Thanks Wade-O for both parts of this interview. I respect Amba & CM very much & was deeply blessed by his remarks here. I'll be sure to listen again and again.
Timestamps: [2:05] - Parallels of the current conversation and The Tunnel Rats/Cross Movement conversation of the past [4:07] - Explicitly Christian lyrics seem taboo now [5:17] - Being Willing to Be Broke and doing CHH [7:03] - Why People Feel He Thinks People Are in Sin for not EXPLICITLY proclaiming Jesus in their songs. [9:02] - Methodology illustration [10:50] - Undiscipled Consumers [11:40] - Should Christians address People/Medthodologies BY NAME in their Music? [13:15] - Similarities between Ambassador's last project, and shai linne's current project [14:15] - CHH is Fatherless [15:33] - Hip-hop is a Marketplace [16:58] - Difference between Mentioning Jesus and Proclaiming Jesus [18:30] - "But They won't listen if they don't like it"
I'm greatful for Shai Linne's "false preachers" - it really opened up my eyes because I used to listen to all those guys like Paula White, Joyce Meyer's, etc.
On Tha koo, new found respect for ambassador.. this brotha is on point! Preciate his perspective and wisdom gained through experience as a believer in the industry that has divided so many. Encouraged to see him so bold, passionate, and faithful reppin in these time. Salute to a vet!
Ambassador is definitely a legend what he has done for the Christian community and hip hop has been life changing he’s taken his pulpit and reached ppl in a way that no one ever has
As I once heard someone say...Folks want Jesus as their SAVIOR.. but NOT as their LORD! When Jesus is Lord, He is LORD over your life, not just as the noun LORD, but as the verb LORD...meaning allowing Jesus Christ to LORD over your life!
Very good interview! Especially when Amba talked about the difference between mentioning and proclaiming Jesus. Funny because I just had a conversation with a coworker about that same topic (Jesus walks).
thoroughly enjoyed both parts of this interviews. gave me good perspective & cleared up some things i found misunderstood about the ambassador... #Salute #GloryToGod
THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT MINISTRIES, DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, BUT THE SAME LORD- THERE IS VARIETY BUT THE SAME GUIDELINES TO DO IT ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF GOD
This may not be a popular stance to take, but I really believe Christian rappers should denounce the culture of hip hop altogether. Hip hop has always been one of the most anti-Christ movements of our time. They glorify, promote if not celebrate every thing that our Heavenly Father condemns. I’m not speaking against rapping which is merely a means to express lyrical content but rather the culture known as hip hop. I believe one of my biggest mistakes was embracing this culture that really has no redeemable origins.
it would be awesome if these types of dialogues were more introspective...we are finding more and more creative ways to discuss what others are doing wrong...very little focus is given to any personal fault or responsibility...
I don't do this for the money, I don't do this for fame, I don't do this so the industry can know my name, I do this and host to glorify Yeshua the King, if you're feelin' me you know you should be doin' the same let's go…
10:00 is what Shai Linne talked about using that opportunity as best as we can. There is nothing wrong about rapping about social injustice but is that the best use ?
Hey William read Matthew 24 from the first century point of view keeping in mind the time statements and see if you come up with a different eschatology view
Re: 'undiscipled consumers', I credit Ambassador with coming the closest, among anyone in CHH that I've heard, to implicating the role of "we the audience" on this topic. Much talk about what Lecrae is doing and it's impact on 'the church' has been imprecise at best. 'The church' often just means 'Christian rap fans' (how many poor ppl care about Gravity? septuagenarians? most importantly, the authorities in God's church: elders and deacons). The formlessness of Evangelicalism, which is one of our strengths, proves to be its own undoing at times like this. A Roman Catholic rapper would talk to his bishop, or the bishop(s) to him. Lacking anything similar, every Tom, Dick & Harry seems so concerned about Lecrae's path but all are not equally capable of wisely contributing to this topic. So we get a mass questioning that always helps the most unbalanced view bubble up, b/c that's the nature of controversy and outrage. Or we latch onto what a popular pastor says: a metric that puts forth John Pipers as easily as it does Mark Driscolls. At the same time, shai linne's position is sound. Calling the church to be devoted to the glory of God will never be a bad message. Even in the midst of revival, we'd probably just be convicted deeper still. This thing where Lecrae tries to influence culture *simply by existing in their space and being faithful to our God, his craft and his realities* is being mistaken for low-key apostasy by people who expect him to be a Jesus mascot. Lecrae is accountable to our God, his *local* church and the ecosystem of r/ships around him (which incls his CHH brethren). Average joe fans like me (and probably you!) are onlookers. And we oughta do our part to--at the least--not turn up the rhetorical temperature. On this point, we all have a lot of maturing to do (and you'll note that I didn't say, 'the church' does lol).
Sorry, but the Truth is that all around us people are dying and going to hell. If you have an opportunity, the Bible says do ALL things to the Glory of God. If you have a platform to preach the Gospel and praise the Name of Jesus in Hip Hop and you don't???? Watered down so called Christian rap is disgusting at best
Watered down Christian rap is reflective of watered down Christianity. Watered down Christianity is Christianity that has lost it's salt and light. We don't need to lose our savor. If we do, we're worthless to God. We can't be evangelistic.
Powerful, yet I think CHH works soooo hard to be an outcast. Like even when people want the message, even when people can appreciate the message, CHH still finds a way to go "oh you really hate us, just admit it!" We're increasingly working hard to be victims even when we're not to the point that any crossover success is side-eyed and anyone not flipping tables and condemning audiences is reflexively challenged as not being Christian enough. And part of the pushback against certain successful CHH/Christian artists is the belief that we're supposed to be at odds with the word even we're not. Lecrae's popularity means he's gotta be doing it wrong, because hey, they're supposed to hate us, right? I saw this with Lecrae. I saw it with Truth during his early Jay-Z soundalike run. I saw this with Kirk's crossover success and blowback. I've seen it for a couple decades now... We're looking for enemies constantly. We're looking for wolves and snares. We're looking for pitfalls and snakes. We're looking for everything except opportunities to grow in The Lord. We're becoming a country club and building walls to keep people out. No music is worth all of this mess.
WORSHIP JESUS spend a few hours sharing the Gospel in a public space and watching drunk people blaspheme God and slander His church while proudly saying "Jesus is my Lord and Savior" and you might agree. What I mean is that the phrase is a cliche in that it is commonly uttered by people who have no grasp of its meaning, but who suppose saying it is equivalent to actual saving faith. It should be truly said by us as Christians, but often is said hypocritically in the unbelieving world.
On account of Ambassador saying it, but on Divine prophesy that people WOULD say it. "Not all who say, LORD, LORD, shall enter the kingdom of heaven." The King is implying by THAT statement that people WOULD say He is Lord but that their WORDS would not be the definitive proof of their faith, rather THEIR ACTIONS - "...he who does the will of My Father."
Wow this was really encouraging!
Wade o is nodding his head like "preach", and I agree :)
Thanks Wade-O for both parts of this interview. I respect Amba & CM very much & was deeply blessed by his remarks here. I'll be sure to listen again and again.
Timestamps:
[2:05] - Parallels of the current conversation and The Tunnel Rats/Cross Movement conversation of the past
[4:07] - Explicitly Christian lyrics seem taboo now
[5:17] - Being Willing to Be Broke and doing CHH
[7:03] - Why People Feel He Thinks People Are in Sin for not EXPLICITLY proclaiming Jesus in their songs.
[9:02] - Methodology illustration
[10:50] - Undiscipled Consumers
[11:40] - Should Christians address People/Medthodologies BY NAME in their Music?
[13:15] - Similarities between Ambassador's last project, and shai linne's current project
[14:15] - CHH is Fatherless
[15:33] - Hip-hop is a Marketplace
[16:58] - Difference between Mentioning Jesus and Proclaiming Jesus
[18:30] - "But They won't listen if they don't like it"
Those timestamps are On-point Wade-O! Big ups to the detail! Bless you!
Excellent interview. Wade-O keep doing what you doing for the LORD bro. Prayers up & support for you my brother.
The Ambassador always well spoken God bless both these dudes!
I'm greatful for Shai Linne's "false preachers" - it really opened up my eyes because I used to listen to all those guys like Paula White, Joyce Meyer's, etc.
Praise the Lord
On Tha koo, new found respect for ambassador.. this brotha is on point! Preciate his perspective and wisdom gained through experience as a believer in the industry that has divided so many. Encouraged to see him so bold, passionate, and faithful reppin in these time. Salute to a vet!
Ambassador is definitely a legend what he has done for the Christian community and hip hop has been life changing he’s taken his pulpit and reached ppl in a way that no one ever has
As I once heard someone say...Folks want Jesus as their SAVIOR.. but NOT as their LORD! When Jesus is Lord, He is LORD over your life, not just as the noun LORD, but as the verb LORD...meaning allowing Jesus Christ to LORD over your life!
Yes they want was on the Master plate but the don't want the Master Provider.
This is so powerful
Very good interview! Especially when Amba talked about the difference between mentioning and proclaiming Jesus. Funny because I just had a conversation with a coworker about that same topic (Jesus walks).
Always loved ambassadors music, talents. Love hearing someone’s heart wide open.
I really like this channel. I'm glad I came across it.
thoroughly enjoyed both parts of this interviews. gave me good perspective & cleared up some things i found misunderstood about the ambassador... #Salute #GloryToGod
I love seeing Wade-o and Deuce chop it up.
This interview was very good. Ambassador speaks a lot of truth!
real spill! truth
Amazing interview . Both parts
He is been in this game for decades. Thats one guy I respect and relate to. JESUS IS LORD
A lot of big facts he speaking on. 🙏🏽N❤️
THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT MINISTRIES, DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, BUT THE SAME LORD- THERE IS VARIETY BUT THE SAME GUIDELINES TO DO IT ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF GOD
Correct, we are one body operating differently but for the same purpose.
Powerful
My thoughts exactly!!!
This may not be a popular stance to take, but I really believe Christian rappers should denounce the culture of hip hop altogether. Hip hop has always been one of the most anti-Christ movements of our time. They glorify, promote if not celebrate every thing that our Heavenly Father condemns. I’m not speaking against rapping which is merely a means to express lyrical content but rather the culture known as hip hop. I believe one of my biggest mistakes was embracing this culture that really has no redeemable origins.
it would be awesome if these types of dialogues were more introspective...we are finding more and more creative ways to discuss what others are doing wrong...very little focus is given to any personal fault or responsibility...
ya boy Ooooo good point.
Thanks for saying that man. It expanded my thinking.
AMEN ME EXACT SENTIMENTS.....ITS ALL ABOUT THE GOSPEL AND JESUS CHRIST
REAL TALK 10:14-10:34
If artists feel it is ok not to rep Christ name in lyrics. see how many will choose not to. This is what Shai has seen happening from following reach
Lightman116 make sure you watch part 2
first to like☺☺☺ #notificationgang
I don't do this for the money, I don't do this for fame, I don't do this so the industry can know my name, I do this and host to glorify Yeshua the King, if you're feelin' me you know you should be doin' the same let's go…
Chris Treborn is that you Lecrae? At least say where it came from. Your so blasphemous!!!
10:00 is what Shai Linne talked about using that opportunity as best as we can. There is nothing wrong about rapping about social injustice but is that the best use ?
Say it! Word!!
Perfect.
Buy it or Boo it! Dope album title
Yoo I'm like really good friends with ambassador!!!!👊👊
Hey William read Matthew 24 from the first century point of view keeping in mind the time statements and see if you come up with a different eschatology view
Re: 'undiscipled consumers', I credit Ambassador with coming the closest, among anyone in CHH that I've heard, to implicating the role of "we the audience" on this topic. Much talk about what Lecrae is doing and it's impact on 'the church' has been imprecise at best. 'The church' often just means 'Christian rap fans' (how many poor ppl care about Gravity? septuagenarians? most importantly, the authorities in God's church: elders and deacons).
The formlessness of Evangelicalism, which is one of our strengths, proves to be its own undoing at times like this. A Roman Catholic rapper would talk to his bishop, or the bishop(s) to him. Lacking anything similar, every Tom, Dick & Harry seems so concerned about Lecrae's path but all are not equally capable of wisely contributing to this topic. So we get a mass questioning that always helps the most unbalanced view bubble up, b/c that's the nature of controversy and outrage. Or we latch onto what a popular pastor says: a metric that puts forth John Pipers as easily as it does Mark Driscolls.
At the same time, shai linne's position is sound. Calling the church to be devoted to the glory of God will never be a bad message. Even in the midst of revival, we'd probably just be convicted deeper still. This thing where Lecrae tries to influence culture *simply by existing in their space and being faithful to our God, his craft and his realities* is being mistaken for low-key apostasy by people who expect him to be a Jesus mascot. Lecrae is accountable to our God, his *local* church and the ecosystem of r/ships around him (which incls his CHH brethren). Average joe fans like me (and probably you!) are onlookers. And we oughta do our part to--at the least--not turn up the rhetorical temperature. On this point, we all have a lot of maturing to do (and you'll note that I didn't say, 'the church' does lol).
Sorry, but the Truth is that all around us people are dying and going to hell. If you have an opportunity, the Bible says do ALL things to the Glory of God. If you have a platform to preach the Gospel and praise the Name of Jesus in Hip Hop and you don't???? Watered down so called Christian rap is disgusting at best
Watered down Christian rap is reflective of watered down Christianity. Watered down Christianity is Christianity that has lost it's salt and light. We don't need to lose our savor. If we do, we're worthless to God. We can't be evangelistic.
Powerful, yet I think CHH works soooo hard to be an outcast. Like even when people want the message, even when people can appreciate the message, CHH still finds a way to go "oh you really hate us, just admit it!" We're increasingly working hard to be victims even when we're not to the point that any crossover success is side-eyed and anyone not flipping tables and condemning audiences is reflexively challenged as not being Christian enough.
And part of the pushback against certain successful CHH/Christian artists is the belief that we're supposed to be at odds with the word even we're not. Lecrae's popularity means he's gotta be doing it wrong, because hey, they're supposed to hate us, right?
I saw this with Lecrae. I saw it with Truth during his early Jay-Z soundalike run. I saw this with Kirk's crossover success and blowback. I've seen it for a couple decades now...
We're looking for enemies constantly. We're looking for wolves and snares. We're looking for pitfalls and snakes. We're looking for everything except opportunities to grow in The Lord. We're becoming a country club and building walls to keep people out.
No music is worth all of this mess.
ITS SPIRITUAL-
Jesus my Lord & Saviour is now a Cliche???😕 I disagree!
WORSHIP JESUS spend a few hours sharing the Gospel in a public space and watching drunk people blaspheme God and slander His church while proudly saying "Jesus is my Lord and Savior" and you might agree.
What I mean is that the phrase is a cliche in that it is commonly uttered by people who have no grasp of its meaning, but who suppose saying it is equivalent to actual saving faith. It should be truly said by us as Christians, but often is said hypocritically in the unbelieving world.
I agree Ambassador on this point, for many people just say it because its a know statement.
On account of Ambassador saying it, but on Divine prophesy that people WOULD say it. "Not all who say, LORD, LORD, shall enter the kingdom of heaven." The King is implying by THAT statement that people WOULD say He is Lord but that their WORDS would not be the definitive proof of their faith, rather THEIR ACTIONS - "...he who does the will of My Father."
WORSHIP JESUS it has absolutely become a cliche.
People say but they do not know the Lord
Church
Rap is a bullhorn for message