Toy Shock 21C Haunted House 3D Digital Pinball - Full Review!
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- This is really long, but based upon all the questions and feedback we've received within the last 24 hours since our live unboxing event we wanted to do our best to cover as much information as possible. Here is my Full Review of the Toy Shock 21C Haunted House 3D Digital Pinball Machine.
This product is specifically advertised and designed as a toy for children. Us big kids will like it too! Lots of pros and lots of cons but for $399 this is a wonderful item to purchase for your family this holiday season and to round out your 3/4 Scale Arcade Game Rooms with a fun and enjoyable pinball game that you'll really appreciate owning!
Many Thanks to all who helped make this event possible especially to Toy Shock for providing me a demo unit to showcase to the arcade gaming community. Although I received this unit for 'free' I was fair and honest in this full review and pointed out several areas/items that could be improved on a future wave of releases. Just like Arcade1Up, you have to start somewhere and I feel Toy Shock is off to a good start!
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That huge silver bezel is hideous I would probably Paint It Black
@@tomcampbell5186 Most of us are My Dude! I will be doing it this weekend - easy fix my man! Toy Shock is going to change the color on the next wave, no worries.
So many channels promoted your video. Thanks for making this!
You are most welcome
Thanks for giving us the "inside" scoop on this machine. :)
So this clearly is running pinball arcade. Glad to see they are finding a another outlet. I wonder if you can hack this to play the 100 other games they made.
Thanks for the updated video, answered a lot of questions i had still.
I did my best for you my friend the video would have been a lot shorter but there were a lot of questions by everybody LOL
Thanks for the review. It looks promising, a few things to improve, like the bezel and maybe monitor size, but overall, it's a decent price for what it is.
Excellent review, thanks a bunch :)
Seems decent, but IMO that silver top bezel looks bad and ruins the aesthetic. I think matte black would've been ideal.
I agree about the bezel but I am just going to repaint it myself semi gloss and enjoy it with face value. I have every arcade1up cab and we're happy with each one and this will be the same. The versions released will get better each time but that's to be expected
I have new found respect for you TH-camrs. Talking and playing at the same time is HARD!
Ryan J Navarro Cote absolutely my friend! And thank you for saying that
I agree about the bezel but I am just going to repaint it myself semi gloss and enjoy it with face value. I have every arcade1up cab and we're happy with each one and this will be the same. The versions released will get better each time but that's to be expected
Good thorough video!! Sorry late to the party, had a busy holiday weekend! Keep it up man!
Thanks brother! I absolutely hated making a 30 minute video but there were just so many questions and feedback that needed answered. Keep it buzzing homey!
Just got a #2 run from after the 1st sell out and haven’t noticed any flipper lag but a small bit of lag on the plunger, also I’m using HAPP buttons with cherry switches. Great video you sold me on it lol.
Wish the corners where your hands sit were rounded like a real lockdown bar. But, I can see them improving just like Arcade1Up did.
Mine is coming on Thursday! Very excited! May do some mods once i see you guys start messing with it. Thanks for the review!
Awesome! I do have a mod video I will be posting by the end of the week
@@PDubsArcadeLoft Sweet! Definitely looking forward to see what you can do with it :)
Wow, Patrick, you just demonstrated why that bezel is there. To help protect it well. It would be nice to have it match the art tho.
For sure, some tweaks would make it better, but for the first time out, very very cool! I will be picking one up, no doubt! Great vid. Thanks for sharing!
So did you get one?
@@donkique956 Nope, better options followed.
I'm going to wait for the Black Hole model they showed at Ces and might buy the class of 1812 model as well I know they have the same tables but I want to use black hole as a dedicated machine.
I love haunted house! I have the actual pinball game at home :)
It's a classic!
Thanks for the review. BTW, no way those lazarus ball saves at 23:33 would ever happen on a "real" machine with the wire guides behind the flippers! 😂
lol I think I better add this to my game room. Thank you for the video. +1
Thanks for the review!
One thing: You said you would show us the “HUD” display in action and we didn’t get to see it. Would love to see how it works with a true DMD-style table like “Lights, Camera, Action”.
I would also like to see some extensive game play of “Class of 1812” with the HUD on and the nudge buttons being utilized.
Other than that, you answered most of my questions.
If I were to buy one of these my mods would include:
* Upgraded speakers (Looks very easy to do. Just get a 2.1 system designed for a PC & plug it in.)
* LED strip lighting on the bottom.
Thanks!
Dude! You're right! I filmed it I just rewatched it and I must have deleted it during the edit I'll get it added are you on the toy shock Facebook fan page?
PDubs Arcade Loft - Ugh... Unfortunately, I don’t “do” Facebook ...
THANKS FOR THIS!!
That big bezel is ridiculous!
Sweet looking machine
Excellent video. If they released a Williams one I’d be all over that, but I realize because of liscensing that won’t be happening. Don’t like the no attract mode. Also don’t like the problems with ball physics. Hope they sell really well and they work on refining them. Thank you for the awesome video.
Let me tell you something; Gottlieb is WAYYYYY more difficult to deal with licenses than Bally/Williams.
I've dealt with Robert Fesjian from gottlieb and Rick from Bally Williams (Planetary Pinball). Both are the trademark owners in respect to these name brands.
A williams type of setup like this one in the video would probably sell much better.
Myself am a Gottlieb fan and reproducing the real pinball circuit boards under license. :)
Great Video and does look like a decent product.
However I will hold out and wait for the Black Hole version. Hopefully the Black Hole will have the spinning Black Hole backbox display, but from a costcutting perspective, they probably won't. Never the less, the Black Hole Cabinet in my opinion will look better.
One thing constantly comes to mind for me, and that is I wonder if Arcade 1up will be coming out with their own virtual cabs. If so, I imagine they will be slightly taller and more arcade accurate. So far I love what Arcade 1 up has done in their second generation machines ,especially Star Wars cabinet accuracy and also there Cocktail Tables.
So as I previously stated, I feel that an arcade 1up version of virtual cab would be more taller, arcade accurate, and adult targeted, and hopefully an LCD back box translight that changes artwork for each game on menu, and with digital display.
Never the Less, I like what Toyshock is doing. Probably not for my taste, as I'm more of a picky pinball purist with real pinball machines in my collection. However I like that Toyshock has gave the average joe an opportunity for a pinball experience. This helps bring new people into the pinball community that may not have been interested in pinball before.
Thanks for posting this video, as I was very curious about what the Toyshock Pin would look and play like.
Love your channel bro.👍👍👍
PEACE.
I just received this pinball game yesterday, I have already made High scores on several tables and entered my initials to save so the next time I played that table I would remember to try and beat that score. When the game is turned back on it does not show my high score, is high score only saved while I’m playing at that moment but not when game is turned on again.
Thanks in advance,
Roger K
Thanks for letting me know abut the high score save :P I just made a updated video and gave your channel a shoutout for helping me :) Great video!
No problem my friend, thank you!
Can’t wait to see it posted!
Can you answer, what is the width of the table itself? Without the legs? I’m curious to know.
Good job
I have most of Arcade1up cabs. I will pass this VP machine. I hope they come out with 32" play field and little taller machine for $600 to $800 range. Although I'm old school, I don't think sitting down and playing this will work out, similar to Arcade1ups.
Good video, BTW!
Honest and fair feedback! Thank you for sharing!
This might sound like a dumb question, but could you fit standard size pinball machine legs on it, or are the holes in the wrong place?
I haven't tested it yet but based upon the design of the legs you probably could
Great video. Very informative. The only thing is my high scores do not save. Is there a trick to that, or does it only save the current scores when turned on? Thanks again for the great video
Excellent thorough review PDub! I'm super excited about these after seeing your coverage on this unit.
thanks brother I hated making such a super long video but people asked so many questions there was so much feedback that we had to cram it all in one shot.
Yes i totally agree!
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Entire backbox light up or just the top? The Haunted House logo looks kinda dark.
Great video. Does the Goin' Nuts game still have the target of earning 180-seconds on the timer, more or less impossible, unfair as a standard goal, since all have to be completed to play wizard goals.
We have the same one everything is all set up but now it doesnt even turn on change plugs nothing please tell me there is a way to fix this please someone
Open the bezel make sure everything is plugged in tightly on the inside. Also plug it directly into wall, make sure your power strip isn't not working
Could you put these in a arcade business in a kids area? These are awesome!
Not intended for commercial use
Pinball Purist here. I want this. That is all.
Woah! Thanks for the comment! I have to admit I've received a lot of feedback from a lot of mechanical pinball as well as fx3 virtual pinball guys and they all say the opposite! It's really nice to hear someone say this from that side of the table.
@@PDubsArcadeLoft I'm like you, I like the retro games and I currently own 8 full size Williams/Bally machines, but prices are out of control since I started collecting in '99. This look like a great addition to my Arcade1ups. Thank you Sir.
@@beakerwick646 no thank you, I'm really happy to see your comment!
Pdubs,
AWESOME Review! You answered my question from the last video in this video about the number of players in a single game :)
Sad to hear about the lag in Goin Nuts and Lights Camera Action. Not a deal breaker, but I REALLY appreciate your honest reveal. That being said... If you are able to correspond with Toy Shock, would you be able to ask them if they'd be able to fix this in a possible firmware update, or a replacement PCB fix (kind of like what Arcade1up did for those who had Rampage machines with broken Gauntlet roms)? I'm sure the units already being shipped to stores have the same issues. If you do have some time, or the ability to speak with them, it would be great to know.
Dude, can't thank you enough for all the in-depth coverage. I wasn't expecting this level of detail in a review and you knocked it out of the park! I can't wait to get mine and play some Haunted House and Black Hole!
Thanks again!
vgv
Thank you so much for such a thorough comment! Lol :) I will absolutely communicate this to toy shock and I'm sure they've already watched my video by now but I'll definitely reach out to them as well
Thanks so much man! I hope they'll fix this little, but important, issue. Giving you a machine to demonstrate for the community right out of the box, Toy Shock seems like the kind of company that's proud of what they've made, and would take feedback like this to heart to find a solution. I love what they have been able to put together :)
Have a great one!
vgv
Oh nooo. The PBA physics seems off compared to the PC version. Quite slow ball movement and the moment you make contact with the flippers you can see the ball lag for just a slight moment overlapping the flipper. I noticed this on the android version too and it drove me nuts. :(
Yeah man the pinball arcade software is not perfect whether it's on Android or PC.
Honestly, even the Xbox version is better than this and Android. Just tried em out and they don't lag, and don't have that 'ball going through flipper' thing.
Just use bed risers for the bottom of the legs. It'll give it height, and you no longer need to slouch or feel any discomfort.
Terrible looking in my opinion, but I think this is a great way to get kids into pinball machines. Hope their second edition will be better and will have a better back glass. Great review! Thanks!
i cant wait to mod this puppy.
Look forward to seeing what you come up with
Does it have any kind of beer seal around the bezel? I can see instances where someone will set a drink on the glass and it gets spilled. Also, what power supply does the machine have?
12v power supply, no clue about the beer seal I have absolutely no intention on placing a beverage on top of the machine if anyone wants to do that the only thing I can say is proceed with caution
@@PDubsArcadeLoft Was it a power supply board? Or was it an external power supply like a laptop one?
@@Sunsetdrivein external power supply very similar to plugging into a laptop
looks sweet, i might get one if it goes on sale. $399 is a bit steep imo
I dunno, contains a monitor, various displays n stuff, the guts of an Android and a Cabinet ..... for the same price as a fairly decent Android phone ... so price seems OK .................. it`s interesting but not for me though as I`m into building more serious Arcade cabs n VIrtual Pinbalkls
Oh yeah speaking of rubbing off how's the paint on this? does it rub off like the arcade1ups do? or is it a higher quality paint
Cody I discussed this in the video
@@PDubsArcadeLoft I know you mentioned it a little bit but it wasn't exactly clear to me sorta confused as to what you meant you had mentioned the paint and arcade1up and such and it sounded like you said the paint seems to be holding up but am not sure despite watching entire video lol
@@MystiqEevee yeah Cody my apologies I mean I've only had it one day I've only played it for 4 or 5 hours so obviously no pain is going to rub off yet it's just something I'm going to keep my eye on and something I hope other people keep their eyes on as these machines roll out
Hey
Just got my pinball today and it did not come with any direction booklet or info did yours ?
You say that there is no lag time mine definitely has lag time just a hair but still throws me off. How is yours with lag time. It is crazy there is no info packet in the box. Would you have a customer service contact info that you can share with me. I was really hoping this thing would be so cool I am hopefully thinking there is a problem with mine and they can help me fix the lag problem. Your review looked so good. I order this the first day it was on walmart’s website and was so excited when you did the unboxing but now I have it in hand it is not so great the lag is a killer. Can you help me in anyway.
There was a mini instruction booklet (for assembly only) in the box, no instruction booklet for each game - each game has instructions built into the system (I've shown that on the full review video) so you wouldn't need a booklet.
The milisecond(s) of latency on the flippers is honestly minor at best - play it for 30 minutes and you'll adjust like I did. I honestly feel its enjoyable and fun
PDubs Arcade Loft
Great thanks for the info no booklet. And yes once you play it for a few games you do get the hang of it is very cool and the size is perfect next to my 10 arcade1ups scaled game room. Thanks for the quick reply back.
Is there actually a 3D effect when looking at the table in real life....like the Nintendo 3DS?
It's there but it's minimal 3D depth to the playfield
I think Nathaniel means real stereoscopic 3D, and i don't think it's there cause you would need a special screen. There would also be settings in the menu to increase/decrease 3D strength. Pinball arcade (the software) has no 3D options as far as i know. In short, 3D is a bit misleading from the manufacturer in my opinion.
@@LEGOpachinko yep, there is literally nothing 3D about the toyshock
I am sure I already know the answer but have to ask anyway. Is there any level of haptic feedback when pushing the flipper buttons?
No haptic feedback brother, not for less than $400 all-in.
@@PDubsArcadeLoft That is what I figured
When will Toyshock release other cabinets?
2020
How much its worth I just found a new one in box at a store here and wondering if uts worth getting compare to a atgames pinball? Asking $200. for it?
Worth $200
@@PDubsArcadeLoft Ok just got it set up and wife took over and to think she didnt want me to buy the Alp lol. Thanks
I think they should of made the top playfield bezel a little bigger.............. good grief
It was suppose to have shipped already but I haven't received a "shipped" email from WalMart. Anyone else have theirs shipped yet? I was an early preorder too.
They will start shipping this week they just arrived at the warehouse on Monday in California slight delay
PDubs Arcade Loft Awesome! Sorry to use your video as a Taiyo Pinball forum, but I didn't know where else to ask. Can't wait for this.
@@rjnc60 no problem! If you haven't done so already make sure you check out and join the official toy shock Facebook fan page. We've been sharing a lot of shipping updates on that page.
PDubs Arcade Loft Will do. I was so glad it looked good in your video. I'm looking forward to a 3/4 pinball arcade room.
It would have been cool if they increased the plunger ball size and used a spring in front instead of buffers. I like when the plunger makes the doorstopper plunnnngngngng sound. They also need to increase screen size by another inch. They need to reduce the bezel size but not try to completely eliminate it. As you said PDubs you still need a place to rest your palms.
So I posted a new Toy Shock Video on my channel last week - make sure you check it out, the New Plunger and Plunger Ball are much larger and look/feel better when I used them at CES.
@@PDubsArcadeLoft Nice. I'll definitely check it out.
Attack from Mars version please
If you didnt own this as of today would you buy it again or wait for the Star Wars one. Because thats my position I want a one but , might wait for Star Wars.
Great question, I'm a fan of Gottlieb titles so I would probably buy the Generation 2 version of this one that's coming out later this year. I will also end up getting the Star Wars once from Arcade1up
@@PDubsArcadeLoft OK Ill wait, do you have a recommendation of a pinball that I can play on my laptop to hold me over?
@@nationalist818 you can play star wars.pinball fx3 off of steam on your laptop easy
Is it coming to uk 🇬🇧 mate
In 2020
Hope so do you no when in 2020 👍🇬🇧
OOS on walmart now..
The Pinball itself seems to be far too floaty even compared to the PC version of the Pinball Arcade
That bezel is hideous! Hopefully their next version is a 27 inch monitor to fill the top.
Oh that Bezel is an easy fix, most of us have already painted it or covered it in graphic artwork, Toy Shock will also change the graphic on the next wave, easy fix my man, no worries. Nobody likes the silver.
@@PDubsArcadeLoft It's the size that kills it in my opinion, and no, I don't worry, as I am not getting it myself, but I am glad they are introducing pinball machines to a younger audience.
@@DrPinball oh yes I see what you're saying, 24" play field with a thick bezel, 27" may have been better. Honestly when I play it the bezzel 'disappears' and i'm only focused on the screen and its fun, it's really only an 'eye sore' when you're not playing on the machine. Thumbs up to Toy Shock for being the first to 'take the leap' into this 3/4 scale pinball market, there will be others to follow for sure!
WTH, why didn’t you show the game play for those who want to see how it actually looks???
Hi Jim! Appreciate the honest feedback! Shooting coverage on a pinball table is very difficult to get the best angles, etc. So I showed what I could. However, bit of a sneak peek I did find a device that will let me capture the screen footage so I can do a solo video dedicated to just the gameplay footage after the Holidays. You'll see that pop up here sooner. Again, appreciate the feedback it helps me make the channel better. Merry Christmas!
Think I'd rather play the android version which I have on my PSP... a lot better screen with better colors and more portable, same sounds.
Have to paint that bezel black.
thanks for the review...sorry it looks cheep kiddie toy..
By probably March, these toys will be discounted to about $75 like the Arcade 1Up's. Only then it might be worth it.
Buy food guys.
The fact that it's essentially just running Pinball Arcade kinda ruins it for me.
That was a stupid choice that they did not give adjustable legs to lower or rise the machine off the ground not a good build decision also whats up with that big bezel / frame looks ugly in my opinion would have been better with a bigger screen. However I do wish them luck and hope it takes off so we see some better builds in the future heck maybe even Stern might offer an affordable pinball machine if he sees this take off that would be cool.
Pile of shit zizzles can't compete with this thing but if you can find a star explorer or something for cheap you're probably better off getting that cause they're more industrial built as the name of this implies toy shock it's a TOY not a Stern pin or something
The frame just looks ridiculous. paint it black!
Can you connect a larger monitor or is proprietary like the dumb Arcade 1up monitor? and cut down the bezel?
Ok, you answered it sorta... I'll just buy lumber and a PC for less than this costs.
Silver, 👎👎👎👎👎🥺🥺👹
I like this machine so far. I have in general a Problem with this whole "¾ Cabinets for KIDS!?" Movement. Lets be honest here. Arcade 1up and this thing is for Adult Fans from back in the days. Selling this as for Kids is almost... insulting! Please bring a grown up Version of this stuff... a Pro version if you will. As a Pinball Fan, I want to buy this but don't want to buy a Toy... for Kids. Bring a 600€ pro Version and I am fully in.
Teknikfrik ya I would like a full size of this for 600 but I don't have the space , so this is great... plus I think it's kinda cool looking at this size
I would love to buy a budget video pinball machine but the machine in your video looks awful.
#1 the legs are way too short
#2 The screen is too small
#3 the movement of the balls looked way too slow
#4 the tables they chose look absolutely boring (fx3 has a way better choice of tables )
#5 they should have a built in wi fi to allow players to update or purchase more tables.
If they took care of those issues I would have money in hand to buy one.
These are just my opinions and I'm hoping that company might take notes.
Geez it's for kids. Chill the hell out
@@Rumple69 Really??? Then you just may want to hand them the box, that machine will get about 5 min worth of use and then collect dust😂. Most kids today are far past pinball machines. They want to play games like fortnite.
the grey/silver bezel is... HORRENDOUS. What a horrid, horrid design choice, seriously.