I bought one and have a couple thousand rounds of various ammo through it and no issues. The barrel is a 4150 chrome, moly, vanadium, Nitride barrel. It’s button cut. It has a M 16 bolt carrier group in which is nice to so it’s meant to go. I put a Geissele 3 gun trigger in it and it is an amazing rifle.
4:24 "You can store some batteries or cigars in there." Awesome lol, love my stogie's! Great video Mishaco. I love your videos, super informative and no bull 🐂. The IWI Zion is definitely on my radar. Thanks for posting.
Saw a few “lists” for top 2020 ar’s and this gun was no where on them. Got sold this over everything else, and upon checking TH-cam reviews, I couldn’t be more happier. My three day wait for this is on!
I will be purchasing the Zion 15, It fits my budget. I was considering the Springfield Saint but the Saint seems to have feeding issues at least that's what I've seen on various TH-cam reviews.
I wonder now if the report that Harrisburg had gotten a rotary hammer mill to make barrels was true? Hard to believe that barrels from a different manufacturer would be cheaper than what they could make on their own if that were so.
Eventually IWI US will prob make CHF barrels, it's a high capital product, and now they don't have to produce CHF barrels within the US unless they want to further expand their US manufacturing capability. Plus, I think people buying an $899 MSRP mil-brand AR-15 would likely value quality/reliability, furniture/ergo/modularity, and accuracy way more than the difference of CHF vs. button-cut. So going for CHF would benefit almost 0% of the intended customer in terms of actual performance unless somehow their CHF barrels produces way better accuracy, which I don't see from their other products with CHF barrel.
Once you start getting into CHF barrels, you start getting into the 1300+ range. You can’t really go wrong with these IWIs. I’m sure IWI could have produced them with the CHF. It maybe they’re trying to do something comparable to Aero, such they’re doing so well and they’re practically bomb proof. They are very similar to Aero precision
I was lucky enough to find one of these brand new in the Urban BDU finish. If you're one of those gun-elitist people, don't buy this gun because it will make your 2500 dollar overpriced AR with all the same parts look like a piece of shit. The only thing on the gun that is junk in my opinion is the mil-spec charging handle which is junk on any AR. The rest is all perfectly fine to leave alone. Gun runs flawlessly and in over 500 rounds, I have not had a single malfunction using winchester 55gr 5.56 FMJ the whole time. Very Pleased. Very accurate and consistent. IWI has excellent customer service too and they got me a barrel wrench out overnight when I wanted to upgrade my barrel for long range. The grip and stock are excellent b5 parts and the rail is very nice. Everything fits together solid and unlike a lot of the rattle traps out there, this gun does not move or rattle AT ALL. I think I'll soon be taking my son to get one for him as well. These are worth quite a bit more than the price alludes to.
It’s a good, if not great rifle. Pretty much all of the internals are standard, meaning no “advanced” pieces of ar parts that offer something enhanced. It’s got a regular trigger, regular bcg, etc. Its pros are that it comes from an actual war gun making company that has battle tested products and can be trusted that although the parts are standard, they are rugged and reliable. The fantastic reliability comes first, and the second boon is the furniture - full length mlok, custom grip, sopmod stock. Relative for all this is a $899 msrp rifle (which is really like 800 on the streets) and you get at least a B+ or A- from me.
@@misha5670 timing is everything these days and this iwi seems like a very solid performer for the money. I’ve seen some ‘rush on the market’ events like the ‘94 crime bill and 2008 election but this one takes first prize by far!
I wish i could dump ammo lile that these days lol, im down to the last couple hundred rounds and im not shooting them til the store shelves are back in stock......could be awhile :-/
Its a pretty good gun for the price point, no real drawbacks, pretty well made gas system and it has good furniture for the price aswell. The frame is aluminum or whatever AR frames are made of
Hi I watch your videos often very informative, I request you to make a video on colt M4 carbine used by us military indicating the markings on it and how to identify it's clone or real. I am asking this coz in Pakistan many companies are making M4 and it's really difficult to know which one is real. Here in Pakistan there are some gun indicating colt M4 all military specs and serial number prifix is W.
A new model with a lightweight fluted barrel, 13" handguard and MFT stock would be sweet. That would be a lot lighter and even closer to the original intent of the AR15 platform.
Lol wtf are you talking about. Thats like saying the " x brands burger would be great for everyone if it had this certain brand sauce that i know I like"
People dont realize they are only paying for the name on most AR parts or accessories. They think a spikes tactical lower is better then anderson when all actuality the actual lower was forged by a totally different company then any of the ones you know. Its only a few companys that actually forge the stuff we buy. Then someone buys that from them engraves their name on it jacks the price up sky high saying its the best its the greatest when really its all about the same. Nkw dont get wrong internals like the BCG and trigger groups there can be a huge difference in those but as far as barrels and reciever etc its all the same shit
I would add a quality buffer to that list also. I've seen those break/fail more than once. In the end, its less about the parts andmore about the assembly & QC checks during the process.
Your wrong. Maybe 10 years ago the forgings came from the same few manufacturers. Tolerances stacking and finishing is a real thing. Yes if you are lucky enough to get an in spec Anderson lower for 50 bucks than good deal but my radian lower and an Anderson or nothing of the same 🤣
Even if 2 companies get lower blanks from the same source, it's up to the company (for example: spikes tactical) to machine the lower to the final dimensions and drill the holes etc. So it really does make a difference what company you buy from and what their quality control is, and what dimensions/prints they are machining off of.
Misha, any chance you can bring out some more parts kit builds that you have? I know you've already done two videos on it, but they are cool nonetheless.
I hear that, but this one at least has an MSRP of under $1k and still has a street price under $900 even after the 2020 panic. So its not the worst value out there.
@@dgunearthed7859 I like it, it's a little front heavy, but recoils very nicely. I figure it'll balance out whenever I get an optic on it. The stock is amazing, very comfortable.
@@sworntoavenge thanks! I do like AR's but I kind of like the looks of ak's better. And really, they're Glock simple! lol But that IWI looks kinda nice!
BCM is definitely the superior rifle. Just a proven gun. Go look at military arms channel, he's got a bcm with like 8500 rounds through it without ever cleaning it and only shoving some lube down its throat, without one malfunction. Pretty impressive
Purchase should depend on your application. The BCM is a more proven gun for sure. If you are just using it as a range toy, or are going to shoot very little, the bcm isn't worth the extra 5-600 dollars. You could buy the IWI, Add light, optic, and sling for less than the bcm cost from the factory. If you're only going to ever buy one gun, or it's a duty application Bcm all the way.
Misha and Jay...bottom line about these times. Do you think we should wait it out if we are wanting a new toy? If one side wins, it'll probably go back to normal. If the other side wins, this is nothing! There won't be a shelf with anything on it! I am interested in the Sam7 but at $1800.00? Realistically, they're probably never going down in price right? I mean I live in Kalifornia, and I even saw a used Ras47 for sale for $2000.00!!!
The panic will be over eventually. So with domestic stuff, I'd just wait it out. However, with imports? Best to nab those when you can because they can end at the drop of a hat, stroke of a pen. Also, don't be so sure in what either Trump or Biden can or will do if elected. Its never that cut & dry.
@@misha5670 honestly, I want an ak but can't decide between the sam7, a 5,45x39 kit for my lower, or the KR-9. Or the zpap m70. All good choices. Oh well, thanks for the great videos!
@@JohnRedacted Dude, I'm a millennial and didn't even start getting into guns until the late 2000s. Not expecting to get "okay boomer"ed over a comment about bayonets. Seriously though, the AWB made everyone want the banned features, one of which was the ability to attach a bayonet.
It is a terrible time to buy firearms and ammo. You're going to spend way more than you have to, especially before a major election and amid the pandemic, shutdowns, civil unrest, rioting, and looting. If you absolutely have to buy to protect yourself for uncertain times and emergencies right now, buy used, and buy from private sellers online, one on one in person in a public place, or at gun shows. Stop buying $300-500 ARs for close to a grand, $500 Glocks for nearly double the price, pump action shotguns for double the price, 50 cents and up per round for 9mm and 5.56/.223, and $2 and up per round for 12g shotgun shells.
I bought this from PSA, a month ago? Maybe $50 more than the listed MSRP. I see "private" sellers charging over 1 grand for basic starter ARs. If you're willing to look, it's way cheaper to buy from companies, unless you have friends or connections with local store owners. I see private sellers charging over a dollar a round for 9mm or 5.56.
@@dgunearthed7859 a local feed store was selling IWI 55 grain m193 for $21.99 for a box of 30, Federal premium HST was going $47.25 for a box of 50. Before taxes. Even with limits per customer it was disappearing
Just bought one. It will be my first AR, and I’m getting fruit roll ups
Fire combo
I bought one and have a couple thousand rounds of various ammo through it and no issues. The barrel is a 4150 chrome, moly, vanadium,
Nitride barrel. It’s button cut. It has a M 16 bolt carrier group in which is nice to so it’s meant to go. I put a Geissele 3 gun trigger in it and it is an amazing rifle.
4:24 "You can store some batteries or cigars in there." Awesome lol, love my stogie's! Great video Mishaco. I love your videos, super informative and no bull 🐂. The IWI Zion is definitely on my radar. Thanks for posting.
Saw a few “lists” for top 2020 ar’s and this gun was no where on them. Got sold this over everything else, and upon checking TH-cam reviews, I couldn’t be more happier. My three day wait for this is on!
I will be purchasing the Zion 15, It fits my budget. I was considering the Springfield Saint but the Saint seems to have feeding issues at least that's what I've seen on various TH-cam reviews.
Another selling point is it smelled really good when i picked it up from the FFL. Not sure what oil they use at the factory.
IWI being what they are im surprised they didn't offer the rifle with a CHF CL barrel
I wonder now if the report that Harrisburg had gotten a rotary hammer mill to make barrels was true? Hard to believe that barrels from a different manufacturer would be cheaper than what they could make on their own if that were so.
Eventually IWI US will prob make CHF barrels, it's a high capital product, and now they don't have to produce CHF barrels within the US unless they want to further expand their US manufacturing capability.
Plus, I think people buying an $899 MSRP mil-brand AR-15 would likely value quality/reliability, furniture/ergo/modularity, and accuracy way more than the difference of CHF vs. button-cut.
So going for CHF would benefit almost 0% of the intended customer in terms of actual performance unless somehow their CHF barrels produces way better accuracy, which I don't see from their other products with CHF barrel.
IT IS A COLD HAMMER FORGED BARREL. IWI MAKES ONE OF THE BEST BARRELS MONEY CAN BUY.
@@buddy9577 I just ordered one. How do you know the barrel is chf?
@@buddy9577 How do you know it's CHF?
I find 77gr very accurate out of my 1/8 16" and 18" ARs.
I wonder how this compares to the new FN Guardian in terms of quality.
Once you start getting into CHF barrels, you start getting into the 1300+ range. You can’t really go wrong with these IWIs. I’m sure IWI could have produced them with the CHF. It maybe they’re trying to do something comparable to Aero, such they’re doing so well and they’re practically bomb proof. They are very similar to Aero precision
It's 4150 Chrome Moly Vanadium HB and chrome lined. Perfectly acceptable.
I was lucky enough to find one of these brand new in the Urban BDU finish. If you're one of those gun-elitist people, don't buy this gun because it will make your 2500 dollar overpriced AR with all the same parts look like a piece of shit. The only thing on the gun that is junk in my opinion is the mil-spec charging handle which is junk on any AR. The rest is all perfectly fine to leave alone. Gun runs flawlessly and in over 500 rounds, I have not had a single malfunction using winchester 55gr 5.56 FMJ the whole time. Very Pleased. Very accurate and consistent. IWI has excellent customer service too and they got me a barrel wrench out overnight when I wanted to upgrade my barrel for long range. The grip and stock are excellent b5 parts and the rail is very nice. Everything fits together solid and unlike a lot of the rattle traps out there, this gun does not move or rattle AT ALL. I think I'll soon be taking my son to get one for him as well. These are worth quite a bit more than the price alludes to.
Very informative as always!
Mid length is my favorite gas system on a 14.5-16”
On a 16" it makes sense but on a 14.5" I prefer a bit more dwell time.
@@misha5670They have the same gas system on a IWI 12.5. Will it work fine?
reminds me of the M400 Tread, and I really dig the Tread, slap a vortex strike eagle scope on there and you are set for a good time, simple and easy.
Look at that vacation beard.... Nice
I almost thought I was watching Bear Independent! lol
First time I have noticed the gray in his beard. We're all getting older. My gray is just the only color that is different from the white.
It’s a good, if not great rifle. Pretty much all of the internals are standard, meaning no “advanced” pieces of ar parts that offer something enhanced. It’s got a regular trigger, regular bcg, etc. Its pros are that it comes from an actual war gun making company that has battle tested products and can be trusted that although the parts are standard, they are rugged and reliable. The fantastic reliability comes first, and the second boon is the furniture - full length mlok, custom grip, sopmod stock. Relative for all this is a $899 msrp rifle (which is really like 800 on the streets) and you get at least a B+ or A- from me.
With stocks on ar’s running low, I see these are actually available and for sale at a few shops.
Yep, which was why we opted to do a video on it *shrug* Its available, so any good? And the initial weekend with it was positive.
@@misha5670 timing is everything these days and this iwi seems like a very solid performer for the money. I’ve seen some ‘rush on the market’ events like the ‘94 crime bill and 2008 election but this one takes first prize by far!
I wish i could dump ammo lile that these days lol, im down to the last couple hundred rounds and im not shooting them til the store shelves are back in stock......could be awhile :-/
Just found one used with a Vortex Spitfire HD, angled backup sights, magpul vertical grip, and a compensator for 799. Can't wait to shoot it!
JUST AS GOOD AS BCM OR DD IN MY OPINION
Misha looking good with the beard
Would you recommend a sig sauer 716 patrol mishaco ?
Great stick. Enjoy mine very much.
@@ElTejon47901 do you run any optics or run the irons ?
@@Rodreisstitan Both actually. I have Troy Battle sights and Trijicon TR24 1-4X on it.
Great rifle. I love mine after 2k rounds downrange
Awesome video thanks guys I’m hoping to get one next month
Thanks Misha!
That beard is Grizzly 🤙🏽
I'm thinking about getting one of these for my first AR. Is the frame made of plastic?
Any drawbacks to the gun considering the price point?? Thanks!
Its a pretty good gun for the price point, no real drawbacks, pretty well made gas system and it has good furniture for the price aswell. The frame is aluminum or whatever AR frames are made of
Interesting that the guys that designed this started out as dancers. Google dancing israelis to find out more.
@@ZizinRacing yall wild🤣
You’re a frickin idiot
Nice looking rifle. Little long for a 'carbine' but nice.
God Bless
Hi Misha, any plans on doing a vid about the SAM 5 that Arsenal just put up for sale?
Yep
Hi I watch your videos often very informative, I request you to make a video on colt M4 carbine used by us military indicating the markings on it and how to identify it's clone or real. I am asking this coz in Pakistan many companies are making M4 and it's really difficult to know which one is real. Here in Pakistan there are some gun indicating colt M4 all military specs and serial number prifix is W.
A new model with a lightweight fluted barrel, 13" handguard and MFT stock would be sweet. That would be a lot lighter and even closer to the original intent of the AR15 platform.
Lol wtf are you talking about. Thats like saying the " x brands burger would be great for everyone if it had this certain brand sauce that i know I like"
i wonder if they dimple their barrels
Quick question would you pay $1775 for this?? Ar go from 1500-2500 here. Do you think that’s worth it?
More like 775. For 1500 I would go BCM Recce all day long and for 2500 ish the DD Mk 12 would be my go-to.
The reloaded gas pipe is aluminium or iron
Is it bad to dry fire this rifle?
People dont realize they are only paying for the name on most AR parts or accessories. They think a spikes tactical lower is better then anderson when all actuality the actual lower was forged by a totally different company then any of the ones you know. Its only a few companys that actually forge the stuff we buy. Then someone buys that from them engraves their name on it jacks the price up sky high saying its the best its the greatest when really its all about the same. Nkw dont get wrong internals like the BCG and trigger groups there can be a huge difference in those but as far as barrels and reciever etc its all the same shit
I would add a quality buffer to that list also. I've seen those break/fail more than once. In the end, its less about the parts andmore about the assembly & QC checks during the process.
The forgings are the same but the machining is not.
Your wrong. Maybe 10 years ago the forgings came from the same few manufacturers. Tolerances stacking and finishing is a real thing. Yes if you are lucky enough to get an in spec Anderson lower for 50 bucks than good deal but my radian lower and an Anderson or nothing of the same 🤣
Even if 2 companies get lower blanks from the same source, it's up to the company (for example: spikes tactical) to machine the lower to the final dimensions and drill the holes etc. So it really does make a difference what company you buy from and what their quality control is, and what dimensions/prints they are machining off of.
@@Spike-13 If you really want to feel ill, checkout some of the cast receivers from the '80s hehe.
Misha, any chance you can bring out some more parts kit builds that you have? I know you've already done two videos on it, but they are cool nonetheless.
Haven't really had many new ones lately to show off.
I was wondering if IWI builds them or just a sourced gun with a logo?
They build them here in the states, they source some of the springs and pins. Everything else is build in house.
They build them in their facility in Middletown, Pennsylvania.
@@nashistrash1069 add in a PA made geissele trigger and you’ve got a heck of a Pennsylvania AR-15 :)
@@SteveD12 absolutely! Pennsylvania does things right if you ask me! I have a fostech echo sport in my Z15
Looks identical to the Radical Firearms RF15 Socom… $5-500
Why are y’all wasting ammo? Aim at targets. See if it’s accurate.
I like it, too bad everything over priced in 2020.
I hear that, but this one at least has an MSRP of under $1k and still has a street price under $900 even after the 2020 panic. So its not the worst value out there.
Bought one from PSA a month ago, it was about $50 higher than the MSRP on IWIs website.
@@sworntoavenge and how are you liking it?
@@dgunearthed7859 I like it, it's a little front heavy, but recoils very nicely. I figure it'll balance out whenever I get an optic on it. The stock is amazing, very comfortable.
@@sworntoavenge thanks! I do like AR's but I kind of like the looks of ak's better. And really, they're Glock simple! lol But that IWI looks kinda nice!
How much nicer is a BCM Recce compared to this?
BCM is definitely the superior rifle. Just a proven gun. Go look at military arms channel, he's got a bcm with like 8500 rounds through it without ever cleaning it and only shoving some lube down its throat, without one malfunction. Pretty impressive
Purchase should depend on your application. The BCM is a more proven gun for sure. If you are just using it as a range toy, or are going to shoot very little, the bcm isn't worth the extra 5-600 dollars. You could buy the IWI, Add light, optic, and sling for less than the bcm cost from the factory. If you're only going to ever buy one gun, or it's a duty application Bcm all the way.
I JUST BOUGHT THE IWI PISTOL AR AND IT RUNS AS GOOD AS MY BCM AND DANIEL DEFENSE. I PREFER THE IWI OVER THE OTHER 2
Thoughts on the SAM5 Misha?
Its a SAM7R but in 5.56 instead of 7.62x39.
@@misha5670 🤣 yeah...I wasn't too excited either. 🤷♂️
What were you shooting at. Was there even a target. If there was steel there was no ringing of the steel
Misha and Jay...bottom line about these times. Do you think we should wait it out if we are wanting a new toy? If one side wins, it'll probably go back to normal. If the other side wins, this is nothing! There won't be a shelf with anything on it! I am interested in the Sam7 but at $1800.00? Realistically, they're probably never going down in price right? I mean I live in Kalifornia, and I even saw a used Ras47 for sale for $2000.00!!!
The panic will be over eventually. So with domestic stuff, I'd just wait it out. However, with imports? Best to nab those when you can because they can end at the drop of a hat, stroke of a pen. Also, don't be so sure in what either Trump or Biden can or will do if elected. Its never that cut & dry.
@@misha5670 understood, thank you!
@@misha5670 honestly, I want an ak but can't decide between the sam7, a 5,45x39 kit for my lower, or the KR-9. Or the zpap m70. All good choices. Oh well, thanks for the great videos!
How much
$899.95 MSRP, with retail/street below that naturally.
I paid 958 after everything
Before the trend of full length free float rails took over, mid length gas was also good for getting a bayonet to fit properly on a 16" barrel.
Yep, sure was
this comment reaks of boomer
@@JohnRedacted Dude, I'm a millennial and didn't even start getting into guns until the late 2000s. Not expecting to get "okay boomer"ed over a comment about bayonets. Seriously though, the AWB made everyone want the banned features, one of which was the ability to attach a bayonet.
👍☕😎
It is a terrible time to buy firearms and ammo. You're going to spend way more than you have to, especially before a major election and amid the pandemic, shutdowns, civil unrest, rioting, and looting. If you absolutely have to buy to protect yourself for uncertain times and emergencies right now, buy used, and buy from private sellers online, one on one in person in a public place, or at gun shows. Stop buying $300-500 ARs for close to a grand, $500 Glocks for nearly double the price, pump action shotguns for double the price, 50 cents and up per round for 9mm and 5.56/.223, and $2 and up per round for 12g shotgun shells.
So 40cpr m193 is okay in your book?
I bought this from PSA, a month ago? Maybe $50 more than the listed MSRP. I see "private" sellers charging over 1 grand for basic starter ARs. If you're willing to look, it's way cheaper to buy from companies, unless you have friends or connections with local store owners. I see private sellers charging over a dollar a round for 9mm or 5.56.
@@sworntoavenge But are they GETTING a dollar a round? If so, I gotta get posting!!! lol I could use a new toy!
@@dgunearthed7859 a local feed store was selling IWI 55 grain m193 for $21.99 for a box of 30, Federal premium HST was going $47.25 for a box of 50. Before taxes. Even with limits per customer it was disappearing
@@sworntoavenge that's crazy...time to inventory my stuff and who knows MAYBE I should get rid of ...thanks! That sam7 isn't gonna pay for itself! Lol
Fruit roll ups 😂
Fruit roll-ups…lmao
That is just a copy of FN 15
They’re all copy’s of FN’s or Colt M4’s 😂 Haw,Ha !
Oy vey!