Woman Says Her Hair Fell Out after Visiting Salon | Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- Diane told people that her hairdresser Nicole made her hair fall out - Is that slander?
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I love that JJ knows the difference between a perm and relaxer.
I was just about to type this 💕. I was like “ okay JJ with the perm/relaxer knowledge “! Lol
She has to review the information BEFORE the case…
Baybeee 😫👏🏽👏🏽
I recently seen a young jj with an Afro
First thing I said!
Non black ppl sometimes perm their hair too
JJ really pulled an Elle Woods here flexing her knowledge about perms! 😂😂
This 🤣🤣🤣
Right! I was thinking this exact thing!
Very well educated
I was thinking of that 😂
😂😂😂😂
True Story: I had a lady who hair was shedding a lot also and recommended her to see her doctor, she called me back at the salon a week later to thank me for telling her to go see a doctor because she was diagnosed with cancer and had to start treatment immediately. Sometimes hair loss is also a sign that something is going on in your body
This is so true and I'm SO glad you said something to her. I started losing my hair around 2016, which was coincidentally when I started bleaching and dyeing my hair. After a while I stopped, but the hair still kept falling out. I even had bald spots scattered all over my head. Lo and behold, in 2021 I got diagnosed with thyroid cancer. It was maybe two months after having the cancer removed that all of my hair started growing back!!!! I couldn't believe it, and now I have all my hair back. So YES sometimes hair loss is definitely a sign of something happening in the body, and it's important to get it checked out as soon as possible.
I was thinking the same
Cancer or thyroid issues causes hair loss myself have thyroid issues my hair falls all over the place
Exactly. When in 8th grade, I had so much stress and anxiety that I developed ulcers and was vomiting daily. I lost SO MUCH hair. I use to have very thick hair and now I have to keep it in a bob because it can't grow past my shoulders or it looks so bad
@@amandamclouth4374 ditto
The lady is probably experiencing a health issue and she doesn’t realize it
She’s just wanting new wig/weave money.
Very possible. My hair started falling out suddenly in clumps and when I went to seek medical attention I was diagnosed with Alopecia Areata which is an autoimmune disorder. The thing with AA is that I wasn’t “sick” and had no other symptoms. Other conditions like Lupus and thyroid problems can cause hair loss as well. So you really have to get everything checked if your hair starts falling out.
Very true! My hair started coming out by the handful and wouldn't stop. Turns out I had a thyroid problem.
@@shapiroshekelberg604 😒
@@anndeecosita3586 I have a host of Autoimmune diseases (5 so far). Lupus is my most recent diagnosis and hair loss was my third symptom. Just wanted to say hey fellow AI buddy lol.
I agree, there are a lot of conditions that can cause hair loss. Even things as simple as hormonal changes or high levels of stress.
I love how JJ believes the lady probably did slander her name, but still followed the evidence over everything else. Being objective is hard, but it's important!
extremely
Not hard at all. I sat on a jury once and we all unanimously agreed defendant was probably guilty but followed the law; the prosecution did not prove their case. Wasn’t hard for any of us. It is actually rather easy when you put yourself in someone else’s shoes and realize you’d want to same treatment and burden of proof if you were in that position.
I REALLY enjoy that JJ gives the defendant enough info to bring a civil suit in the future, she just needs to gather written proof of Plaintiffs slander. Telling defendant 'you definitely have a case, but need proof, use this case as evidence that she had NO case against you to say what she's saying IF you get proof' JJ really does try to help but is bound as a judge and cannot provide "legal advice or counsel" during these cases because she a judge. I bet if Plaintiff comes back (as a defendant) with written proof and witnesses who have it in writing, she'd win her case.
Amen.
Well also there’s a difference between ranting a review of her experience and slander
“she blocked me from her Facebook” ..girl..
I screamed when she said that 💀
@@SpaceIsThePlace_ me too😂
She meant she couldn't get the posts because the woman blocked her. But she could have had someone else print those out.
@onlineversion always get screenshots before being blocked! 😂
Why do people consistently go to court with absolutely no evidence whatsoever?
She probably had that ponytail too damn tight to where her edges broke off or got pulled out over time.
For the ones who don’t know what a relaxer is,
it’s a chemical put on the hair to strip the protein(which forms the curl) from the hair to make it straight.
Without the protein, the hair is fragile and without proper care, makes it much more prone to snapping off especially if she was putting it in a tight ponytail for the time she did.
With how often she was getting her hair relaxed it could have just been compounding damage from the chemicals(which could easily caused it to start breaking in a ponytail as you said.) Some of these processes can damage hair just because of how they work. I used to have my hair permed, bleached and colored and I would regularly hit points where just running my fingers through it was enough to cause a log of breakage. I'd have to cut off a lot and let it grow out because of how damaged the hair can get. I wouldn't blame the salon for that, I'd accept that I'm doing too much and start doing some good conditioning treatments.
as soon as she said she put it in a ponytail, I envisioned a tightly slicked back ponytail... Horrible for relaxed hair!
Also, depending how OFTEN she put her hair up in a ponytail, ruins your hair. My hair was doing ok for a long time till I got a job where you NEED to have your hair up. Now my hair is falling out due to how often it's up, and my medicine that I need to take. She should of also asked her doctor like I did. They would of asked her the same thing about how often she's putting her hair up.
@@kittykat-oz6me Yup! I wear ponytails regularly. My stylist told me that if I wear it regularly, I would need to change it from a high to low often to ensure my hair wouldn't break off. Eventually, it started to and I don't even wear it tight. I can imagine the plantiff having a fresh perm and wearing a tight ponytail afterwards.
That is true. Another reason may be that if your hair is down you shed throughout the day without really noticing. If you wear a ponytail it holds ALL the hairs including any that have fallen out so when you take the rubber band out you'll see hair come with it. I know because I experienced this myself when I started wearing ponytails a lot. You lose from 50 to 100 hair a day. So when most of them come out at once when you take the rubber band out that was holding them it can feel like hair loss. She may have had that happen in addition to too tight a ponytail breaking them.
The defendant did an amazing job of being silent. Most don't.
The fact that JJ knows what a perm and a relaxer is and the difference 😂😂😂 I love it
Stop putting chemicals in ya hair. It’ll never be the same. Learned myself.
So true 👍
I’m so glad she knows the difference between a perm and a relaxer lol
Right! It was so refreshing. And so many people use the two terms interchangeably (though we still know what they mean).
@@Sweetheartbabez I’m so glad you understand lol. One of my mother’s close friends was a stylist and it annoyed her so much so it started to annoy me too 🤣
She was just doing too much manipulation to her hair. That’s her fault. Tight braids, tight ponytails, perms, heat straightening, hair dye, etc
Facts ! You have to wait I think
3 days or more until you put braids in your hair , a ponytail and especially hair dye !
@@cierramiller4256 yup
I love JJ!!
My favorite sayings
“I DONT CARE.”
“YOU HAVE NO CASE.”
“CASE IS DISMISSED WERE DONE.”
And when she laughs….. lol the case is ova
Also when she says GOODBYE 😂
Um is not an answer
We as black have got to stop putting these relaxers in our hair!!!! Those chemicals are harmful to our beautiful natural hair.
How do people continually get away with axing someone??
I know the plaintiff can feel the defendant’s stares
In part one the plaintiff mentioned something about needing a touch up after 4-6 weeks, but the hairstylist advised every 2 months. I'm thinking plaintiff went to different stylist for touch up before it was time then tried to blame the defendant.
That’s probably exactly what happened!
Facts
Love that Judge is so well versed 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Judge Judy is too smart, who knew that she knew about PERMS & RELAXERS? PERMS were used to make hair curl and relaxers (used mostly by women of color) straightened the hair. You go JJ. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I'm totally convinced that she knows everything
@@domisthebomb09 Me too. Scary ain't it. 😮😮😮
I thought perms just did the opposite of whatever your hair is. I have 4a hair and used to get perms when I was lil to straighten it
@@bobsburgers8497 I'm 75 and back in the day they used to call what women of color were getting "PERMS" but that was also the name that non black women were getting (which actually makes their hair curlier) , so because it relaxes the hair (straight for women of color) it's called relaxers. Whew!!! 🙏🙏
She said she used to get them. It’s not so shocking once you know that
the side eye from the defendant's friend is HILARIOUS!!
Stress, poor health, meds, allergic reaction, lack of vitamins. Many possibilities.
To all of the ladies who currently have a relaxer in your hair, especially for those individuals that have been getting a relaxer for several years, and now you desire to go natural: As you are growing your hair out naturally, you will experience hair breakage, as the relaxer grows out. All of the relaxed hair is going to break off. When this happened to me I understood the process. Then, I wore my hair naturally for five years, and desired to switch back to a relaxer. For the following reasons. I've always had healthy, thick, and long hair. Relaxer, or not. However, my natural hair was 10 times as thick! My morning, noon, and nighttime routines were drastically effected by longer hair prep times. Unfortunately, the hours that I spent in dedication to being a medical professional at that time did not leave me any extra time to do this on my own. I barely had any time at all for sleeping. When I switched back to the relaxer, I noticed that my hair was shedding. I always paid for deep conditioning treatments. Yet, my hair was still shedding. I began taking the Mane Choice vitamins, and it soon stopped. However, I also feel as though my hair stopped shedding because of the following reasons: No relaxer before 8 weeks. Do pay for deep conditioning treatments. Make sure the ends of your hair are always trimmed. Wear a silk/satin cap when laying down resting/bedtime. Drink plenty of water. Eat a variety of fresh fruits, and vegetables. I am not an expert. I just wanted to share what my experience was like during my twenties, and part of my thirties with my hair. Now at the age of 45, and a 3 year breast cancer Survivor, I am a beautiful baldie. It's funny to look back on all the fuss with my hair. I am blessed. ❤😊
Congratulations!👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you for sharing.
That's a novel. Geesh
@@jennifergray5499 AND?? If you don't like it so what. What can you do about it? Absolutely nothing. Furthermore, it's called sharing helpful information with others. Yet, if it don't apply,... Let it fly. That's exactly what you can do. Geesh on that.
@@1jyl22 You're welcome.
She doesn’t take statements girl YALLLL HAVE TO WATCH JUDGE JUDY!!!!
She has learned a lot by being on the bench for years and hearing all types of cases.
SHE SHOULD HAVE WENT TO A DERMATOLOGIST.!!!
Or gone to one.
@@jenniferstephens4191 lol 🤦🏼♀️
Or an endocrinologist, often hair loss can also be linked to hormonal issues. I had bald spots all over my head for like 6 years, and it turned out to be thyroid cancer (which was managed by an ENT and an endocrinologist).
Defendant comes to court with her *word* as proof. 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂
If you use relaxer enough your hair will never be the same smh.
I hate that my mom stared relaxing my hair when I was 11 because my hair never needed it. Now I’m 43 and wouldn’t even know how to go natural or what my natural hair looks like. The lady that does my hair put a mild relaxer on it so I hardly ever burn, but I wish my mom wouldn’t have did that to my hair
@@brandym2099 Girl same here!! I’ve been natural for abt 2 yrs now and I don’t see me going back!
@@brandym2099 Our moms didn’t know any better back then 😢
This feels like that legally blonde scene.
Judge Judy is the OG Elle Woods 😂
Defendant got that "Gurl!" look
I got a perm for my wedding back in 2010. They burnt my scalp and I knew right away. She would've felt it right away too.
I know this is old but I hope the plaintiff met with her doctor and had blood work done. My hair was falling out in clumps, found out I was extremely anemic.
I do believe she thought it was related to the haircare she received from the defendant. She MAY have been wrong, but doesn't seem malicious.
What's crazy is I'm watching this now on TV 😂
Well, not only did they waste judge Judy’s time they wasted my time.
Look @JJ know the difference between a relaxer and a perm!!!! Love it.
quick and easy. to the point. love me some jj
JJ TAKE ALL HAIR CASES PLEASE🤣🤣💯
Regardless of the decision, I didn't like how the defendant was staring down the plantiff. I understand being upset that you are being sued but I don't know, it was just an uncomfortable feeling. I'm surprised Judy didn't tell her to face foward.🤷♀️
Your comment is basically word for word what I was thinking the whole time. I kept waiting for JJ to snap and tell her stop staring her down. Lol
I think JJ didn't say anything because she could also tell the plaintiff was a lying sack of shyt.
Yea I was wondering the same
One thing about hair loss is that it can occur much much later after the "trauma" had happened, it why it's really hard and confusing to pinpoint exactly why someone is losing hair especially if it's stress or hormone related
Right but the plaintiff wasn’t claiming stress. She was claiming a relaxer is what caused her hair loss. Which may be true but that has nothing to do with the defendant. Relaxers are strong chemicals. One needs to condition and/or moisturize their hair several times a week to prevent breakage would I doubt she was doing. She only went to the salon for “major events”.
Hair loss due to a relaxer is immediate. It eats through the skin like acid. Hair falls out in clumps.
Hair loss can be cause by a deficiency as well, especially when she complained 2 months after the service its hard to believe her..
Am I too early to see all the hair experts show up? Damn I'll just come back in an hour.
🤣🤣🤣just silly
@@moniquejones6482 :) wouldn't feel right to watch a court case without hearing from all the "experts" in the comments section.
Plot twist : Client has a Weave
It is very possible for her hair to fall out gradually.
It’s the guy behind her in blue falling asleep for me 😴😂😂😂
The reason her hair fell out is because creamy crack is no good for hair and at some point it will cause breakage and loss. Bet she has never had longer than shoulder length hair, why... Cause relaxer causes breakage and hair damage.
how the heck can u go to court expecting to win and not provide evidence or proof to win ur case....so dumb!!!~~Argh!lol
Defendant was OVER IT… she was mad y’all. She was PISSED!!!
After a time with natural hair, I went to a stylist who would use a mild relaxer on my hair and leave it in for longer. I was used to stylists using regular strength in my thick, course hair, so this was different. The results were nice, but after a couple retouches, I noticed that my hair was shedding like crazy. Even the stylist noted the thinning of my hair over the course of one year. In the end, I had her cut it all off and began my natural journey again. No need to sue her. She's human. Perhaps her technique worked flawlessly for others. That was in 2010.... been natural ever since.
Could it have been the brand?
@@Mrs.buildingblackwealth Not a hair stylist, but it could have been the brand..but everyone's hair is different. What's fine for one person's hair, could cause way different results for another.
Sure, it could have been a brand issue. I don't remember what the brand was or if it was something I had had before. I do think leaving the relaxer in longer was a factor as well.
You do need to use protein treatments before and after to build it back up
Alot of things make hair fall out, hormones, stress etc not only chemicals.
Sadly, a relationship was lost.
Big Shirley was going bald and panicked 🥞 😂
the lady just wants money judy is right she has no case
Woman says her hair fell out after visiting salon becomes
Woman says her hair fell out 2 months after visiting salon AND after visiting another one !
this reminds me of Legally Blonde🤣
Judge know how chemical works 😂😂😂 Some customer complain after 6 month . That’s ridiculous.
It's not about being burned. It's breakage and snapping off at the end and shedding
Katt William's hair stylist told me, "your hair don't retain heat!"
Your hair DOESN'T retain heat"
I can testifiy to that as a witness
This case can't be proven!!!
5 Grand, holy BLEEP! Yeah, It does not take 2 months to discover you are having hair loss or burny scalp when going in for hair treatment.
I 💕 that jacket.
As soon as I heard the Plaintiff say it wasn't till December that she notified the defendant the case was over.
Ahw, the plaintiff was visibly disappointed I kinda feel bad for her. Hair loss is no joke!
It happens and it sucks. Doesn’t mean it’s someone else’s fault though. She just wanted a quick payday.
@@shapiroshekelberg604 I don't agree with you that she just wanted a quick payday.
I lose my hair when I'm animic or super stressed out.
Her hair loss could be a symptom of a health issue like mine is.
Or she is just getting hair treatments wayyyyy too often and isn't gentle with her hair.
There is very high chance the relaxer ruined her hair. Normally a styles tells you if you need a relaxer. However if her hair is thin she shouldn’t need one. Personally I feel like both played a part I in this
The plaintiff said she needs a relaxer every 4-6 weeks, this is the cause of her hair falling out. She’s over processing. Relaxing already processed hair is asking for it to fall out.
Exactly. She knew the consequences that could come with having a relaxer.
Yeah relaxers will mess your hair up. Especially if someone puts it in wrong. I haven't had one in 10 years or more
Of course and other factors too but she can't prove it. This is a court of law where proof is needed.
They all getting there hair done yet they all wearing wigs
The plaintiff claims her hair fell out, so that makes sense. Also, the defendant’s witness isn’t wearing a wig.
The defendant’s witness is clearly not wearing a wig.
First, COME ON JUDGE JUDY!
Thyroid. I wonder if she has Thyroid problems.
Let’s all say OVER PROCESSED. Lady please, you relaxed your hair to much and on top of that put it in a pony tail. Ma’am 🤨
One thing I am confused about: the defendant was countersueing for slander... so why did JJ jump on liable?
Her wig, is like a theater curtain!
The defendant will clear her reputation, with this video!
JJ doesn't realise you can be allergic to a new hair relaxer and it doesn't cause a burn, but it does cause shedding for the subsequent months. Also if you switch brand relaxers it may interact with the one with one you typically use and also cause shedding without burning.
You don't always have to burn to have a negative shedding reaction to hair treatment and it isn't necessary to sue the stylist for it. It is par for the course. Patch test first.
Relating a perm to a relaxer is the same as relating the black experience to the yt experience. The way we rely on the burn to the way someone with finer hair complains to a burn is DIFFERENT.
Any white woman that went through the 70s and 80s as an adult certainly knows what a perm is
Y'all worry WAY too much about your hair. If you kill it with chemicals, wtf do you THINK will happen????????? Geez!!
Relaxing is just bad for your hair. It probably got to the point that her scalp couldn't take it.
Another thing we men will never understand: women and their hair ! Perms, relaxers, wtf? Wonder how a male judge would handle this case !
First of all the relaxer should only be done every 3 months and only to new growth. Persons doing touch 6-8 weeks is what causes your hair to break off…
Come on JJ!!! She better know the difference between a perm and a relaxer!!! The plaintiff didn't have a case, period....and neither did the defendant.
I wonder why after going to the salon all of those times that she suddenly went to another salon.
Appalachia or however you spell it is a complete possibility. I used to do hair and one time I was giving this lady a haircut and she had a bald spot. I didn't say anything because the haircut she already had compensated for the bald spot. She loved the cut and came back not even 20 minutes later and accused me of shaving a bald spot (I didn't even use clippers) and that's when we found out she had no idea that she was even balding. Quite possible this happened to the plaintiff and she didn't know... So naturally you'd assume it's caused by a salon visit when she was getting chemical services. Not saying its right, and JJ is absolutely correct, you know immediately if you have chemical burns.
Not true JJ. I had a perm in 1980 and the front didn't take. So I went back a week later. A week after that the front completely broke off at the scalp! I was 18 and truly mortified! 😭 There was NO burning at all!
Sounds like you over processed. Plus you say your hair broke off but the lady says hers fell out which is different and can be caused for many different reasons.
Judge Judy = Elle Woods
Elle is soooo dope!
Whoops.
Glad the defendant won
Her wig is looking good
Culteral appropriation wearing long hair from other cultures. Those women need to accept their true hair nature.
Perfect example of abusing judicial system
Relaxing your hair every 2 months? Surely that’s what is causing her hair to fall out. Every 2 months is too much
If The plaintiff got mirrors in her barn she already see her real problem and it's not her bald head.
It’s obnoxious how much she stares at the lady tbh. Childish really
The witness should of pulled out the Facebook posts. Or where ever she read or heard something.
if you buy a car and drive it around for 2 mounths and then claim its a lemon and the engine has blown you dont have a leg to stand on as nobody knows what you did with the car in those 2 mounths.
but as JJ said if you turn up the next day and complian you have a case.
If you know your hair is coming out gradually over time. Why would you keep messing with it???
I wonder if Judge Judy could do her show without being so harsh with people.
Who is going to watch that? It would be boring.
Here’s the thing, I have locs and I get them bleached regularly. Every 8-12 weeks depending on my new growth. That being said, about 8 months into my bleaching journey my locs began to break one by one and random increments. I later learned it was because they were over processed with 40 developer the previous time instead of the usual 30. There was no burning. No immediate knowledge and no underlying health conditions. Just pure over processed hair.
While it’s great the JJ knows the difference between perms and relaxers, what she doesn’t know are the makings of a black woman’s hair. This lady did not say she experienced chemical burns and the like, she said she experienced hair loss.
This does not always show immediately and can be a gradual process. It’s incompetent to dismiss people based on lack of knowledge.
There’s a picture of Judge Judy online with her husband in the early 80s. Her hair was so curly! Could be mistaken for a sistah
No!! You would know within minutes of the chemical.
Simple things as basic lack of nutrition and protein could contribute to hair loss, my hair falls out in handful of big balls every single time I wash and I notice that happens only when I don’t eat enough protein. I mean 🤦🏼♂️
Hmmmm. There isn't anything wrong with a relaxer. If he hair is fine she should have pushed the relaxer time it for longer than 4 to 6 weeks. It is a chemical, so if anything the stylist could have told her to wait a while because it's not needed. So with age her body has changed and it's not the same as it was when she was 20. Plus they are leaving out the stress part because that can make your fall out. Her ponytail was probably extremely tight and who is say besides her that she did use the correct scrunchie or a rubber band. Her health is also another thing. I just know we not gonna blame it on the relaxer. It's so many variables in this situation to take into consideration. Even if it is a chemical because everyone wants to be blonde but don't say anything about that. (It is a chemical also)