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- In this video I talk about the popular notion of an "addict", and why I think it's quite flawed.
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Fully agree when you said about the child’s pain that is often ignored and all focus is feeling sorry for the ‘addict’ 👏
I am an addict, and I have recovered using the 12 steps.
There are “hard users” who can just give up if the consequences are bad enough.. but the ones who simply cannot give up via their will power are the true addict, who’s lives will end in prison, dead or a mental institution.
I only recovered surrendering to my “higher power” and helping others to get me out of self; my self (or ego) is selfish, dishonest and self centred. Only by getting out of self am I happy without addictive drugs or behaviour.
Bless 🙏🏻
Congrats on getting clean!
I think "cannot" is just too finite. I agree that for some people it's extremely, extremely, extremely difficult, to the point of being practically impossible. But I don't think it's ever literally impossible, and I think framing it as such can be harmful.
Addiction is not a disease rather it is a short term attempt to escape the experience of human suffering.
I would encourage you to listen to Dr. Gabor Mate talk or addiction.
I've listened to Gabor Mate, I really like him and think he's a force for good in the world, especially as an alternative to the rampant medicating culture we have today. I do think he over pathologises things though, and too readily buys into faulty science on things like ADHD and addiction if it conforms to his worldview
Addiction is not the surface level self destructive behavior you see. That's a result. Addiction is the internal structure of the addict's psyche. The way they process the world. It is at the core of this individual's being. That's not an excuse and addicts pay the price for their actions. definitely. But they cannot will themselves out of it. They can get sober and minimize the destructive patterns to a good degree. They cannot become a non addict.
That you abused drugs does not make you an addict. You would definitely know if you had this problem.
I've had quite a few addictions in my life, I definitely know what it's like to be both physically and physiologically addicted to quite a few different things, I just don't draw this magical distinction between "addict" and "addicted", because really there isn't one. Some are just more inclined to become addicted to things than others. That doesn't mean there is some fundamental difference between them and others.
All people get angry sometimes. Some people get angry a lot. Some people are angry all the time. There is not an invisible line that you cross where you become something other than someone who sits somewhere on this spectrum. The feeling is the same, it just exists and is indulged in different people to varying degrees. Some people struggle with it more than others. Some are victims of it more than others. Some indulge it more than others. For some it's more of a choice, for others it's more of an affliction. But at its core: it is the same. And I look at addiction in the same way. Just because you are really prone to being addicted to things, or perhaps just have a strong tendency towards bad decisions and a failure to exercise willpower, that does not make the mechanism of addiction somehow fundamentally different in one person compared to another.
No one can become a "non-addict" if what you mean by that is losing the capacity for addiction and vulnerability to it. That is in everyone.
disease
/dɪˈziːz/
noun
a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that has a known cause and a distinctive group of symptoms, signs, or anatomical changes.
Addiction is a disease, the bad behaviour of an addict is most certainly not.
Addiction is not overcome by will power. But the habitual use of substances can be. The vast majority of addicts will take those certain thought patterns and tendencies with them through their whole life weather they’re clean from drugs or not
@@pbhuart2743 It can overcome by willpower though. You can be addicted to smoking, quit smoking and then 20 years later not even slightly crave cigarettes. The predisposition might remain, but the predisposition to be addicted to nicotine is in basically everyone. Likewise with drugs like heroin, there are very few people who would not get addicted to such drugs if they took them regularly. The physical dependency we can form on them is generally unavoidable over a certain period of time, and you can very easily become addicted to something without any particular predisposition at all. I guess then if being addicted to something is a disease, so is being high, so is having withdrawals. Their cause/effect mechanisms are often literally no different to that of addiction.
Of course, some people are more genetically predisposed to it than others. But whether or not the meaning of the word "disease" can be semantically bent to fit this purpose, in my view it's pretty dangerous to say that the reason someone spends their families savings on three day coke binges every weekend is because they have a disease, rather than because they made bad choices. And if it is to be treated as a disease, then it should be no more open to self-diagnosis than cancer or any other disease.
The evident addiction/bad choices that addicts make are often quite literally indistinguishable, being that typically the primary bad choice that they make is to continue feeding their addiction.
But addiction isn't the compulsive use of substances. It is the patterns of behavior and thought that lead someone to use substances that way. Whether sober or not an addict will still remain an addict. An addict can lead a productive, accomplished and sober life and still suffer.
That you would talk about pandering or enabling is absurd. Addicts bear full responsibility for their behavior. They pay the price every time and still keep on doing the same things. No one anywhere is giving addicts a pass or excusing their behavior.
@@badrobot114 You're talking as though everyone who is addicted to a substance is the same. They aren't. There are a huge variety of reasons why people become, remain or cease to be addicted to things. There is a perhaps helpful but definitely flawed idea of "The Addict" that comes from AA, and I understand why people buy into this and why it's useful to them in that context. But when you project that onto the rest of the world you're over simplifying millions of different things into one extremely binary and inflexible concept. That's not how reality works.