People asking where *insert Gundam* or *insert UC grunt* is on the list will get sent to the Shadow Realm. With the exception of those that appeared in Turn A ofc.
Curious on best grunts list, though for universal century may want to split it up from during one year war and post one year war. Along with an AU of course when you get the chance.
That's what you get when you just slap a machine with overkill (even for the pilot) specs and also make it durable and sturdy as possible.... MiGs are a clear case of it, mostly the INTERCEPTOR ONES (not a coincidence that it took a generation or two of improvements on Jet carried AAMs speed and range to ACTUALLY make shooting a MiG23 with one feasible, bastard could outrun Early AAMs like nothing)
@@andrehashimoto8056 Or how the famous story about the SR-71 pilots were told if they had a missile lock on them "Fly faster and higher" The Tallgeese is what happens when you get a bunch of mad scientists to design your mobile suit and forget to explicitly tell them people need to survive piloting it. I just love that dang crazy thing.
Out of all the MS in that list, I do admit the Union Flag and Tallgeese are my favorite models and it feels like with light modifications, that they could work well in the UC. On the other hand, you have to the Principality of Zeon credit for how tough and robust they made those Zaku units.
I'm with you, Tallgeese would be my all time fav (it's those thicc legs and Greco-Roman like modeling and raw power) with that Dober gun plus decent armour. The Overflag more so for the pilot more than anything else and it's insane speed.
Its interesting to note that the Grimgerde and the Tallgeese exist in their timelines as the prototypes of their respective grunt lines. Where the Tallgeese spawned all the Leo variants and subsequently all Federation suit designs, the Grimgerde's frame became the basis for the Graze and the Geirail.
@@TetsujinhanmaaI get confused if Wing Zero came before the Tallgeese or the other way around but the Leo's design lineage can be directly traced to the Tallgeese before any of the gundams.
@@Joshua_N-A I always thought there was more similarity between 00 and Wing rather than IBO since Tekkadan doesn't have any grandiose goal past giving their family a comfortable life.
@@CptPhilippnes I think is the premise itself. Gjallarhjorn is OZ of PD afterall and McGillis pilot a very high performance machine kept in storage with Mars try to fight for its independence along with an emotionless protagonist.
11:21 Thinking back now, I never realized how brutal this death was for the pilot. The moment he just looks down, instantly wiped from existence with his last memory and image being a green mono-eyed mobile suit looking straight at him.
The Zaku II being in here brings me back to clearing Char's whole story, including the Alternate History version, in Gundam vs. Zeta Gundam with his Zaku. The hilarity of stomping The O's face in using the epitome of fodder in THE PREVIOUS WAR is just too rich to ever grow tired of.
Can you do a Top 10 edgiest Gundams???? My Top 10 Edgiest Gundams 1)- Gundam The End 2)- Master Gundam 3)- Gundam Deathscythe Hell EW 4)- Gundam Astray No Name 5)- Gundam Seltsam 6)- Denial Gundam 7)- Gundam G-Else 8)- Gundam Virsago/Chest Break 9)- Gundam Epyon 10)- Arche Gundam Honorable Mention- Hydra Gundam
Not even from Gundam but the pagorta has got to be one of the edgiest Mechs. Got multiple arms, demon wings, is gold, has a red visor, and the pilot controls it using pianos Kakarots favorite Gundam the strike noir
Kakarot: *[Mentions Turn A]* Me: "I'll Conquer Earth's gravity by riding in a wooden barrel filled with sausages through space and into its atmosphere!"
Just realized how similar the tallgeese booty skirt is to the v2 Gundam. Thanks katoki Does the turn x count as a Gundam? It's the turn A's brother unit so is it also a gundam I always called the turn a zak as the "boar jo horn" Therapist: red kapool with a club doesn't exist Red Kapool with a club: ROCKET PANCH
Basically, the only "Gundams" are mobile suits actually called "Gundam". Otherwise, they're just mobile suits with Gundam-like performance or appearances like the Turn X, Hyaku Shiki (though granted, it did start as the Delta Gundam before getting redesigned and having its transformation systems removed), and so on.
I have heard that Turn X gets compared to a Zaku a lot. I always thought it was a gundam too, since usually we see weaker gundams being reverse engineered into better gundams, but we rarely see random mobile suits being reverse engineered into gundams. That's why I always assumed that Turn X is a Gundam.
The Tallgeese has been one of my 'top picks' for what suit I'd pick personally and for gunpla in a 'build fighters' setting. I don't think it's actually outdated or meant to be seen as such, beyond a lack of UI elements and targeting systems, instead it's what they've based their mass production model on to make cheaper versions, meaning this was a top tuned machine of great quality, top materials, best moving parts, best engines, best power core - You name it, it likely had it. It'd be like driving a Ferarri F40, one of the most responsive cars in the world with a genuinely terrifying amount of power at your disposal, without computers to manage it all for you. In the end, all that power is in your hands, making the Tallgeese a terrifyingly powerful mobile suit through its potential.
Technically the Tallgeese was the most powerful unit in Wing, even overshadowing the Gundams in terms of specs. The problem came from the fact that nothing was optimized, making the suit so unwieldy that only a person who had a death wish would want to pilot it. Also, Tallgeese II and Tallgeese III, being literal copies of the Tallgeese showed the suit didn't really need an upgrade. Instead it needed to be optimize so all that power could be used efficiently and safely. Thus a true upgrade would probably have the Tallgeese be Tallgeese Mk.2, putting it in a different class as the true "evolution" of the machine.
@@andrewowens4421 Tallgeese 3 was a much more upgraded unit than 2 which is just Tallgeese from spare parts. Aside from optimized systems it also boasted better weapons that took from both Wing Zero and Epyon (which suggests that it's managing its power output better to allow for those weapons to be functional) as well as being outfitted for space. I would put Tallgeese 3 as a true upgrade than Tallgeese 2.
Tallgeese is what called a Testbed Machine. A prototype is meant to be improved upon but a Testbed Machine is the best that machine could be at the current time it was made as it had everything you'd every want to test and perform in one machine. So at the time the Tallgeese was made it was the most powerful thing there was barring the existence of Wing Zero, which is another Testbed Machine itself, as both of those machines spawned less expensive and less powerful versions of themselves being the Leo line and the five Gundams. The only thing the Tallgeese needed was better optimization and systems to managed its monstrous power output. Something it probably didn't have at the time of its creation but became available as time and tech progressed.
You ever not realize you have a favorite thing, until you see it unexpectedly and have a sudden thrill at the fact it's there? That's me with the Turn-X.
Tallgeese has always been my favorite mobile suit. Its the one that looks least like it was designed to be a toy and has a cool ancient Greek warrior look going on.
I always thought the metaphor for gundams was that they were essentially indestructible and their pilots were essentially the most capable and that the only way to defeat the uber pilot/suit, especially when two uber pilot/suits faced off was ideologically.... The metaphor was always about the animating spirit made manifest.
The Tallgeese III is still probably my favorite mobile suit design of all time. The amazing speed and simple beam sabers are classic, and the shoulder mounted beam cannon and shield with heat rod are excellent design. I personally think the heat rod is one of the best and coolest weapons ever designed for a mobile suit. Really the only thing that could be added to improve the performance of the Tallgeese would be the remote weapons and equipment that are so prevalent in many other series.
I don't think Turn A and Turn X can be considered outdated. Their surroundings don't seem to have every fully recovered their tech levels, let alone exceeded them. They're still the pinnacles of weapons technology.
There's a very small pool of MS that can beat them period. It probably expands a bit if we just decide to take the I Win button known as the Moonlight butterfly out of the debate, but I have seen people quote absolute Bullshit that is suppossed to be in manuals from model kits for them. Still, the 00 QuaN-T has the best chance IMHO, and once fused with ELS, might even be able to resist the Moonlight Butterfly.
@@jetblackangelX Did it ever use it, or is it just an informed attribute? Also like to think about what suits can beat them by resisting the MLB, and the other capabilities. It is kinda cheap if the only thing something's got going for them is a straight up "I Win Button".
@@brettwood1351 It gets used to destroy a ship in the final episode of g-reco. It's more concerning that someone in Venus globe was able to recreate the system and can do it again. I'd imagine trans-am might give some resistance.
@@jetblackangelX I think it depends on if the GN particles block or interfere with the Nanomachines. If I remember right, the nanofilm coating that all the old MS like the Bajoornen were coated in both maintained them, and provided some protection against the Moonlight Butterfly's nanomachines. So it may also not be able to get past other nanomachines. And I do wonder if DG Cells would protect against the nanomachines. So maybe in the end it comes down to whose sciency thing is the most BSable?
I love that the Tallgeese is on this list, though in all technicality it could also be in the gundam list. If the Tallgeese is made of Gundanium and is the grandfather to the Gundam, then it is in fact a Gundam. Even the Tallgeese 2 and 3 can be considered Gundams. I mean, not only are they made of Gundanium, Tallgeese 2 literally sports the face of a Gundam, and Tallgeese 3 Has the firepower and armaments of a Gundam.
The Union Flag CB is actually a GN powered MS, it uses condensers that are refuelled from a GN Alpha drive. The MS itself was part of a celestial being project, to develop their own cheap to maintain GN powered MS.
As for list videos I'd like to see, part of me has been put in mind of the most epic events that happened off screen in Gundam, thanks to being reminded of Turn-A and Turn-X's first fight, and the Calamity War, AKA Mobile Armors are scary now.
HGAC Tallgeese when? The Leo has a kit so just make a variant. That new Leo-S kit has the added thrusters on the backskirt so that's possible moulding for a Tallgeese. Bandai could be holding out on the TG until all 5 of the initial Gundams from Wing are released. Wing himself came out years ago and 2019, 2020 & 2021 have each had one Operation Meteor Gundam released; Sandrock, Heavyarms & Deathscythe respectively. Chances are 2022 will bestow us with an Shenlong and maybe the Tallgeese in 2023. Some late series variants have come out too with the Wing Zero at retail not long after his normal self. And the slight parts variant; the Sandrock Kai getting a P-Bandai release. I can see the Heavyarms Kai getting the same treatment as the Sandrock upgrade. But with the recently revealed Livelance Heaven pre-tool; a Deathscythe Hell is just around the corner, likely as a retail kit due to its popularity and being a significant upgrade to the Deathscythe, compared to the minor upgrades that Trowa & Quattre's machines got. Sandrock just got vernier upgrades and a gun while Heavyarms got a second gatling barrel and an elbow-mounted blade. The Shenlong/Altron upgrade was more significant so both may hit retail. The latter even had a pre-tool via Tigerwolf's Jiyan Altron in the first Build Divers series. A kit i own purely cos of my attachment to the Altron/Nataku and its colour greatly resembling my own personal colours. All that's needed is white paint for the tiger parts to finagle it into resembling a polar bear. A similar white repaint could get the wolf to resemble an arctic fox. Both snowy animals being ones i associate myself with.
When in doubt, throw more Flags at the problem If the Braves in the 00 movie didn’t exist, the Flag would easily by my favorite non Gundam in the 00 universe
It does make me wonder though what became of the other 8 Valkyrja Frame units given that Grimgerde was just imitating the Helmwige. Were they destroyed/dismantled, was only one unit ever actually built?
@@reeseolsen4052 there's another Valkyrja unit shown active in the Gekko manga. The Oltlinde, according to the Gundam Wiki, fought alongside Gundam Gremory during the Calamity War. It utilizes Deinsleif before but now only swords.
Tallgeese 1 was the mobile suit that really pulled me into Gundam. Fantastic design. What it represents, what it exceeds at, it's all instantly communicated by its design.
I feel like Tallgeese and Turn X are kinda cheating; depending on the version of the story, the Tallgeese is outtright called the first Gundam, and the Turn X is where the Turn A got most of its system from, so it might as well be one.
Tallgeese isn't made of Gundamium, which is a defining feature of AC Gundams. It's only known as the predecessor of all mobile suits from that era. The title of first gundam goes to Wing Zero, from which the other units were derived.
Fan Theory. The Tallgeese III was made out of the remaining parts of the Tallgeese and the Epyon. Just taking all the remains and piecing them together for one of the coolest mobile suits in the franchise.
I love the idea that all the Tallgeese suits we see are literally the same suit, just with different armaments. It's literally too powerful to upgrade.
An older machine sure gets a lot of mileage if it's already naturally fast, packs a healthy arsenal, and hits hard in general. That and if it can successfully cure cancer with its bare hands.
HG Celestial Being Flag when? That thing kicked ass and I've also built the HG Overflag and that thing was a joy to build. Sad that we didn't get much variants of the Flag
Hears the magical "three times the speed of x" mentioned about the Tallgeese... Finds it ironic the Tallgeese never came in a predominantly red paint scheme.
Thanks for another awesome list with much fanboying and laughs! Definitely funny you mentioned the Ginn High Maneuver Type II and the Over Flag, as I recently built the Ginn and have issues with the Flag’s loose legs. Also, those names sound all the same to me, so I’m sticking with Grimgary and Babybottle when it comes to my IBO pronounciations.
Perhaps the Hyakuren as piloted by Amida Arca is a good inclusion here. Very little modification from the originals, yet was able to help Amida fight against the Reginlaze Julia and the Arianrhod fleet in space.
Not gonna lie, the Tallgeese was the first thing on my mind. Practically all the dug up suits in Iron Blood Orphans and Turn A count too. The one thing you didn't mention on the list is the Gundam X. This thing was decades old by the time it got used in series.
True. Plus the Gundam X was a production model, rather than a one off. It really shows how bad things got that mass satellite cannon fire was just 'a thing you do' during that war.
This make me more interesting in gunpla army build. With more focus on the lore of older ms and its application in their own universe, I found that is interesting build with different ms that can work together like tallgesse and leo. I hope if you can make more of gunpla army build that suitable the ms with each other like tallgesse with leo, Gundam with gm and etc. Thank you.
Considering Wing is somewhere on the bottom of the list compared to other series, the Tallgeese(specially III), has a soft spot in my heart. It was more mechanical and realistic for our world when looking into the details on it's design and platings. I need to buy another Tallgeese 3 gunpla and smash it due to your video now.
@@TheKing-qz9wd buy more Leo kits to make a mobile suit legion. Put Roman numerals and letters on them and shield emblems. This sound like a major project with amount of markers, paints and materials. Imagine the size of the diorama!
Yonem Kirks? He tried to commit suicide by shooting his backpack reactor, not a very chad thing to do, especially since he failed to cause a nuclear explosion to take himself and the nearest suits out, instead they shot him before he could finish...
Kakarot197: "Kapool with a club doesn't exist, it can't hurt me." Char Aznable incarnate piloting a Kapool with a club: **Approaching** Kakarot197: *"YA BE....... 😳"*
I love the Zaku and that's probably because in every game you could pilot a Zaku that would be the suit I would use to beat the game. Even playing against my friends in 1v1 matches and them using Gundams I'd destroy them. There is just something about using a heat hawk to kill your opponent that always called to me.
i love that even the susanowo or w.e its called from season 2 was a massively upgraded flag graham is literally that person that takes the starting weapon in a game and throws all their upgrade points into it
and then when he gets a new MS for Awakening of the Trailblazer, it's basically the Flag's grandchild taking elements from the Susanowo while bringing back the transformation
Well, the Tallgeese, Grimgerde and Over Flag (Custom) were, technically speaking... ACE Units, thus... even with age catching up to them... they're still powerful machines, especially when piloted by ACES. i want to see a list of Old Grunt Suits Piloted by Notable (Not necessarily Aces...) Individuals, but still performed well against "Newer" units.
It's funny that there are units like this in Gundam, because they're like analogs to actual outdated military equipment being good despite their age or being obsolete. Best way I can explain it is that the Tallgeese is similar to the BT-5 tank, a tank that despite having a smaller gun compared to the tanks it faced off against, the BT-5 was almost suicidally fast and maneuverable, similar to how despite being outdated by Leos and the Tauruses, the Tallgeese was an absolute monster even against Gundams or newer generation Mobile Suits and Mobile Dolls.
Okay to be fair - The pilot of the "suped up and modernized Gundam Frame" was an idiot. The Frame wasn't able to perform at even its minimal potential without an Alaya-Vijnana system.
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People asking where *insert Gundam* or *insert UC grunt* is on the list will get sent to the Shadow Realm.
With the exception of those that appeared in Turn A ofc.
Might wanna indicate a spoiler warning for the Grimgerde scene
Where's tha Kapool and the rokketo punch?
Borjarnon my dude!
Ain't the Turn X a Gundam itself anyway? And thus, shouldn't even be a honorable mention?
Curious on best grunts list, though for universal century may want to split it up from during one year war and post one year war. Along with an AU of course when you get the chance.
The tallgesse is my favorite old mobile suit. It's old but not obsolete, in terms of mobility and it's fast reaction time.
That's what you get when you just slap a machine with overkill (even for the pilot) specs and also make it durable and sturdy as possible....
MiGs are a clear case of it, mostly the INTERCEPTOR ONES (not a coincidence that it took a generation or two of improvements on Jet carried AAMs speed and range to ACTUALLY make shooting a MiG23 with one feasible, bastard could outrun Early AAMs like nothing)
Exactly not counting the gundams everything else is mostly a downgrade version of tallgese anyway.... I believe
@@andrehashimoto8056 Or how the famous story about the SR-71 pilots were told if they had a missile lock on them "Fly faster and higher"
The Tallgeese is what happens when you get a bunch of mad scientists to design your mobile suit and forget to explicitly tell them people need to survive piloting it. I just love that dang crazy thing.
My favorite real grade kit.
@@brettwood1351 The Tallgeese is what you get when a bunch of scientists say "how many rockets do we need to make a school bus reach mach 1"
It's coming...the Kapool with a club is unstoppable, it cannot be denied.
The best Zeon amphibious suit till the zee zulu hits the field
@@gregbennett9166 Zee Zulu was reduced to ashes by the butterflies. Kapool with a club will have to do.
*metallic bonk noises*
@@gregbennett9166 the hygogg is the best Ms
Too bad it was.
Out of all the MS in that list, I do admit the Union Flag and Tallgeese are my favorite models and it feels like with light modifications, that they could work well in the UC. On the other hand, you have to the Principality of Zeon credit for how tough and robust they made those Zaku units.
It was probably Neo-Zeon XVIII with sprinkles that did them, as they clearly aren't exactly to OG Zaku specs.
Yooo dont forget Grimgerde! It could go toe to toe with a Gundam frame, AND it could escape earth's atmosphere all by itself even in re entry!
I'm with you, Tallgeese would be my all time fav (it's those thicc legs and Greco-Roman like modeling and raw power) with that Dober gun plus decent armour. The Overflag more so for the pilot more than anything else and it's insane speed.
Those fuckers somehow, someway, survived all the way to Correct Century STILL useable despite being ONE OF THE FIRST Mass-produced MS ever made
Its interesting to note that the Grimgerde and the Tallgeese exist in their timelines as the prototypes of their respective grunt lines. Where the Tallgeese spawned all the Leo variants and subsequently all Federation suit designs, the Grimgerde's frame became the basis for the Graze and the Geirail.
I'm pretty sure the old geezers that made the Gundams made the Tallgeese first.
Did anyone notice a parallel between IBO and Wing? No wondèr it's popular in the West.
@@TetsujinhanmaaI get confused if Wing Zero came before the Tallgeese or the other way around but the Leo's design lineage can be directly traced to the Tallgeese before any of the gundams.
@@Joshua_N-A I always thought there was more similarity between 00 and Wing rather than IBO since Tekkadan doesn't have any grandiose goal past giving their family a comfortable life.
@@CptPhilippnes I think is the premise itself. Gjallarhjorn is OZ of PD afterall and McGillis pilot a very high performance machine kept in storage with Mars try to fight for its independence along with an emotionless protagonist.
I don't understand. How can you deny the existance of a Kapool with a club, when that's the only kind of Kapool there is?
Kapool with a club > Momokapool > Capule
Idk if anyone mentioned this yet but like does anyone remember that one strike dagger that managed to survive the final battle of gundam seed destiny?
I will never forget that trooper
yes, that johny no name. i wonder if they will survive the movie that may or may not ever release.
Secretly they're the protagonist of a movie that was released in another dimension. We are just losing out on them because of the mandela effect.
I went and look and that is so cool to see. They must be a good piolts
Yup. I remember that
11:21 Thinking back now, I never realized how brutal this death was for the pilot. The moment he just looks down, instantly wiped from existence with his last memory and image being a green mono-eyed mobile suit looking straight at him.
120mm on a human body, at point blank range with all of that muzzle velocity.
@Tomas Cuay Yeah realized that, he saw the barrel, not the mono-eye.
Which series and episode did that happen in. I wana watch it
It's Turn A Gundam, but I couldn't tell you the exact episode. Not familiar with it myself.
The Zaku II being in here brings me back to clearing Char's whole story, including the Alternate History version, in Gundam vs. Zeta Gundam with his Zaku. The hilarity of stomping The O's face in using the epitome of fodder in THE PREVIOUS WAR is just too rich to ever grow tired of.
Can you send a link to this? This sounds hilarious!
Setsuna and his flag is my favorite scene in trailblazer. He's just a badass in that flag.
always love kakarot197 content.
You're one of the most passionate Gundam fan out there. keep doing it dude!
Definitely my favorite Gundam channel of all time extremely informative content
Agree 100%
@@gunpla_sk8 it’s crazy because his channel name is heavily dragon ball related so people wouldn’t necessarily think it’s gundam focused lol
Can you do a Top 10 edgiest Gundams????
My Top 10 Edgiest Gundams
1)- Gundam The End
2)- Master Gundam
3)- Gundam Deathscythe Hell EW
4)- Gundam Astray No Name
5)- Gundam Seltsam
6)- Denial Gundam
7)- Gundam G-Else
8)- Gundam Virsago/Chest Break
9)- Gundam Epyon
10)- Arche Gundam
Honorable Mention- Hydra Gundam
Deathscythe Hell EW
this. this needs to be a thing
Not even from Gundam but the pagorta has got to be one of the edgiest Mechs. Got multiple arms, demon wings, is gold, has a red visor, and the pilot controls it using pianos
Kakarots favorite Gundam the strike noir
HELL YEAH!
Lord astray
7:10 Kakarot- mentions the flag
Me- I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH BETTER YOUR MACHINE IS.
TODAY, IM BEYOND THAT.
I STRIKE LIKE AN AVENGING ANGEL!!!!
being a fan of flag custom i agree
Zechs when gets the tallgeese: This is incredible i am lighting transformed!
Zechs later with the Tallgeese: Its to slow now
...Oh God. The Tallgeese is the UC version of the RX-78-2!
Quick! Someone get that Char Clone a magnetic coating!
Zechs: im piloting wing tallgeese
I alway took that as the tallgeese became slow too Zech because of maneuverability than thrust acceleration and top speed.
Thats why he went on to the epyon
Kakarot: *[Mentions Turn A]*
Me: "I'll Conquer Earth's gravity by riding in a wooden barrel filled with sausages through space and into its atmosphere!"
barrel drop time.
Or i will colony drop every major city
Zaku I Sniper. That thing put on a show and could punch WAY above its weight in Unicorn.
That's on UC list.
Just realized how similar the tallgeese booty skirt is to the v2 Gundam. Thanks katoki
Does the turn x count as a Gundam? It's the turn A's brother unit so is it also a gundam
I always called the turn a zak as the "boar jo horn"
Therapist: red kapool with a club doesn't exist
Red Kapool with a club: ROCKET PANCH
Technically the turn x isn't a gundam. It's just a high performance ms that served as the basis for one.
Basically, the only "Gundams" are mobile suits actually called "Gundam". Otherwise, they're just mobile suits with Gundam-like performance or appearances like the Turn X, Hyaku Shiki (though granted, it did start as the Delta Gundam before getting redesigned and having its transformation systems removed), and so on.
I have heard that Turn X gets compared to a Zaku a lot. I always thought it was a gundam too, since usually we see weaker gundams being reverse engineered into better gundams, but we rarely see random mobile suits being reverse engineered into gundams. That's why I always assumed that Turn X is a Gundam.
Therapist: It's okay, Kakarot. The Kapool with a club doesn't exist. It can't hurt you.
Kapool with a club: 11:43
The Tallgeese has been one of my 'top picks' for what suit I'd pick personally and for gunpla in a 'build fighters' setting.
I don't think it's actually outdated or meant to be seen as such, beyond a lack of UI elements and targeting systems, instead it's what they've based their mass production model on to make cheaper versions, meaning this was a top tuned machine of great quality, top materials, best moving parts, best engines, best power core - You name it, it likely had it.
It'd be like driving a Ferarri F40, one of the most responsive cars in the world with a genuinely terrifying amount of power at your disposal, without computers to manage it all for you. In the end, all that power is in your hands, making the Tallgeese a terrifyingly powerful mobile suit through its potential.
and just like the ferarri, classy. the tallgeese is a handsome dignified ms.
i'll keep my version of the wing zero, b/c it takes OverPowered and turns it up
Technically the Tallgeese was the most powerful unit in Wing, even overshadowing the Gundams in terms of specs. The problem came from the fact that nothing was optimized, making the suit so unwieldy that only a person who had a death wish would want to pilot it. Also, Tallgeese II and Tallgeese III, being literal copies of the Tallgeese showed the suit didn't really need an upgrade. Instead it needed to be optimize so all that power could be used efficiently and safely. Thus a true upgrade would probably have the Tallgeese be Tallgeese Mk.2, putting it in a different class as the true "evolution" of the machine.
@@andrewowens4421 Tallgeese 3 was a much more upgraded unit than 2 which is just Tallgeese from spare parts. Aside from optimized systems it also boasted better weapons that took from both Wing Zero and Epyon (which suggests that it's managing its power output better to allow for those weapons to be functional) as well as being outfitted for space. I would put Tallgeese 3 as a true upgrade than Tallgeese 2.
Tallgeese is what called a Testbed Machine. A prototype is meant to be improved upon but a Testbed Machine is the best that machine could be at the current time it was made as it had everything you'd every want to test and perform in one machine. So at the time the Tallgeese was made it was the most powerful thing there was barring the existence of Wing Zero, which is another Testbed Machine itself, as both of those machines spawned less expensive and less powerful versions of themselves being the Leo line and the five Gundams.
The only thing the Tallgeese needed was better optimization and systems to managed its monstrous power output. Something it probably didn't have at the time of its creation but became available as time and tech progressed.
The Tallgeese 3 is actually my favorite non-Gundam mobile suit. So it is nice to see it get the mention.
You ever not realize you have a favorite thing, until you see it unexpectedly and have a sudden thrill at the fact it's there?
That's me with the Turn-X.
Tallgeese has always been my favorite mobile suit. Its the one that looks least like it was designed to be a toy and has a cool ancient Greek warrior look going on.
I always thought the metaphor for gundams was that they were essentially indestructible and their pilots were essentially the most capable and that the only way to defeat the uber pilot/suit, especially when two uber pilot/suits faced off was ideologically.... The metaphor was always about the animating spirit made manifest.
5:32 Ill call it the virgin red comet.
Perfectly suitable nickname
I'd use a Flag, there's just something appealing about it's design
Then there's the Solbraves basically super Flags
@@KudaGeatsune3821 those are my personal favorite Ms from 00
It's made in the USA so would too.
Overflag is my favourite. All mobile suits are multirole right? Like jack-of-all-trades but master of none kind of machine.
@@Joshua_N-A I think that's general purpose in MS terms
The Tallgeese III is still probably my favorite mobile suit design of all time. The amazing speed and simple beam sabers are classic, and the shoulder mounted beam cannon and shield with heat rod are excellent design. I personally think the heat rod is one of the best and coolest weapons ever designed for a mobile suit. Really the only thing that could be added to improve the performance of the Tallgeese would be the remote weapons and equipment that are so prevalent in many other series.
I don't think Turn A and Turn X can be considered outdated. Their surroundings don't seem to have every fully recovered their tech levels, let alone exceeded them. They're still the pinnacles of weapons technology.
There's a very small pool of MS that can beat them period. It probably expands a bit if we just decide to take the I Win button known as the Moonlight butterfly out of the debate, but I have seen people quote absolute Bullshit that is suppossed to be in manuals from model kits for them. Still, the 00 QuaN-T has the best chance IMHO, and once fused with ELS, might even be able to resist the Moonlight Butterfly.
@@brettwood1351 There's also the G-Lucifer with its MLB
@@jetblackangelX Did it ever use it, or is it just an informed attribute? Also like to think about what suits can beat them by resisting the MLB, and the other capabilities. It is kinda cheap if the only thing something's got going for them is a straight up "I Win Button".
@@brettwood1351 It gets used to destroy a ship in the final episode of g-reco. It's more concerning that someone in Venus globe was able to recreate the system and can do it again.
I'd imagine trans-am might give some resistance.
@@jetblackangelX I think it depends on if the GN particles block or interfere with the Nanomachines. If I remember right, the nanofilm coating that all the old MS like the Bajoornen were coated in both maintained them, and provided some protection against the Moonlight Butterfly's nanomachines. So it may also not be able to get past other nanomachines. And I do wonder if DG Cells would protect against the nanomachines.
So maybe in the end it comes down to whose sciency thing is the most BSable?
The Desperado using a shovel to beat the gafran in Age
lived up to his name there
Oh yea
And here I am still waiting for HG Union Flag Celestial Being Custom
Me too. Right now, I don't care if it release in a pbandai. I buy that
I am still waiting for that Flag that Gharam used in the finale of season 1.
Apparently that was consider being made but bandai canned that.
I love that the Tallgeese is on this list, though in all technicality it could also be in the gundam list. If the Tallgeese is made of Gundanium and is the grandfather to the Gundam, then it is in fact a Gundam. Even the Tallgeese 2 and 3 can be considered Gundams. I mean, not only are they made of Gundanium, Tallgeese 2 literally sports the face of a Gundam, and Tallgeese 3 Has the firepower and armaments of a Gundam.
11:21 just makes me laugh. Just "SUPRISE BITCH! *BANG! BANG! BANG!*
The Union Flag CB is actually a GN powered MS, it uses condensers that are refuelled from a GN Alpha drive.
The MS itself was part of a celestial being project, to develop their own cheap to maintain GN powered MS.
i remember seeing that flag custom as a kid and getting excited as hell. Graham is a goat.
Setsuna: "I AM GUNDAM!"
Me: "I don't care what anyone says. I loved the Gundam 00 series!"
When you are the Gundam, all mobile suits are Gundams in your hands
@@Marisa_arts yup
Setsuna is the most powerful innovator (newtype) in the alternate universes
Such a big fan of the Flag but the Tallgeese has my heart... but every time..." its a Flag" I love hearing and seeing that!
As for list videos I'd like to see, part of me has been put in mind of the most epic events that happened off screen in Gundam, thanks to being reminded of Turn-A and Turn-X's first fight, and the Calamity War, AKA Mobile Armors are scary now.
To be fair. The pilots of these outdated mobile suits are a beast of their own.
Zechs
McGillis
Graham
All being amazing char clones.
I have a few ideas for lists:
Top Mobile suits with very little screen time.
Top Reverse engineered mobile suits.
Top Villain/antagonist Gundams.
It's funny, multiple Char Clones end up using outdated Mobile Suits and kicking ass.
Damn it, I try to forget the Kapool with club and you remind me with that.
HGAC Tallgeese when?
The Leo has a kit so just make a variant. That new Leo-S kit has the added thrusters on the backskirt so that's possible moulding for a Tallgeese.
Bandai could be holding out on the TG until all 5 of the initial Gundams from Wing are released. Wing himself came out years ago and 2019, 2020 & 2021 have each had one Operation Meteor Gundam released; Sandrock, Heavyarms & Deathscythe respectively. Chances are 2022 will bestow us with an Shenlong and maybe the Tallgeese in 2023.
Some late series variants have come out too with the Wing Zero at retail not long after his normal self. And the slight parts variant; the Sandrock Kai getting a P-Bandai release.
I can see the Heavyarms Kai getting the same treatment as the Sandrock upgrade. But with the recently revealed Livelance Heaven pre-tool; a Deathscythe Hell is just around the corner, likely as a retail kit due to its popularity and being a significant upgrade to the Deathscythe, compared to the minor upgrades that Trowa & Quattre's machines got. Sandrock just got vernier upgrades and a gun while Heavyarms got a second gatling barrel and an elbow-mounted blade.
The Shenlong/Altron upgrade was more significant so both may hit retail. The latter even had a pre-tool via Tigerwolf's Jiyan Altron in the first Build Divers series.
A kit i own purely cos of my attachment to the Altron/Nataku and its colour greatly resembling my own personal colours. All that's needed is white paint for the tiger parts to finagle it into resembling a polar bear. A similar white repaint could get the wolf to resemble an arctic fox. Both snowy animals being ones i associate myself with.
When in doubt, throw more Flags at the problem
If the Braves in the 00 movie didn’t exist, the Flag would easily by my favorite non Gundam in the 00 universe
Overflag is my favourite. The best iteration of the Flag imo.
Corin Nander says, "Hi. This is a Kapool Custom Command type with a club. Not a Kapool."
"....one of the best swordholders around" Stop! He's already dead!
It does make me wonder though what became of the other 8 Valkyrja Frame units given that Grimgerde was just imitating the Helmwige. Were they destroyed/dismantled, was only one unit ever actually built?
It's sad that the most memorable thing the Helmwige did was take a corkscrew to the gut.
@@reeseolsen4052 there's another Valkyrja unit shown active in the Gekko manga. The Oltlinde, according to the Gundam Wiki, fought alongside Gundam Gremory during the Calamity War. It utilizes Deinsleif before but now only swords.
F in the chat for the poor Bertigo not even getting an honorable mention.
Tallgeese 1 was the mobile suit that really pulled me into Gundam. Fantastic design. What it represents, what it exceeds at, it's all instantly communicated by its design.
I feel like Tallgeese and Turn X are kinda cheating; depending on the version of the story, the Tallgeese is outtright called the first Gundam, and the Turn X is where the Turn A got most of its system from, so it might as well be one.
Tallgeese isn't made of Gundamium, which is a defining feature of AC Gundams. It's only known as the predecessor of all mobile suits from that era. The title of first gundam goes to Wing Zero, from which the other units were derived.
Fan Theory.
The Tallgeese III was made out of the remaining parts of the Tallgeese and the Epyon. Just taking all the remains and piecing them together for one of the coolest mobile suits in the franchise.
I love the idea that all the Tallgeese suits we see are literally the same suit, just with different armaments. It's literally too powerful to upgrade.
An older machine sure gets a lot of mileage if it's already naturally fast, packs a healthy arsenal, and hits hard in general. That and if it can successfully cure cancer with its bare hands.
HG Celestial Being Flag when?
That thing kicked ass and I've also built the HG Overflag and that thing was a joy to build. Sad that we didn't get much variants of the Flag
When MG gnx-iv.
I want my double shield like Patrick
There was a prototype HG of the Flag Celestial Being custom but it got scrapped.
@@phenexgundam5669 There was also a planned gnx-3 colony color that got cancelled
Hears the magical "three times the speed of x" mentioned about the Tallgeese...
Finds it ironic the Tallgeese never came in a predominantly red paint scheme.
Thanks for another awesome list with much fanboying and laughs! Definitely funny you mentioned the Ginn High Maneuver Type II and the Over Flag, as I recently built the Ginn and have issues with the Flag’s loose legs. Also, those names sound all the same to me, so I’m sticking with Grimgary and Babybottle when it comes to my IBO pronounciations.
I always liked the Ginn and the variants a lot but hated the constant flashbacks of seeing the high maneuver type in seed destiny.
You hit every mobile suit I wanted. Perfect list
Our boi Tallgeese showing that being older doesn't mean being weaker. Good engineering withstand the test of time! Also, Zakus in Turn A, lol.
The Tallgeese you could argue was _ahead_ of its time and had to be downgraded into the Leo to be used effectively.
@@andrewowens4421 Indeed, and not for some gimmick mind interface prediction system, it just had too much power.
@@andrewowens4421 also was likely unpractically expensive to mass produce
Perhaps the Hyakuren as piloted by Amida Arca is a good inclusion here. Very little modification from the originals, yet was able to help Amida fight against the Reginlaze Julia and the Arianrhod fleet in space.
I love the Leo so much that in SD Gundam G Generation Cross Rays the Leader of my team uses a maximun level Leo (OZ) Space type.
Not gonna lie, the Tallgeese was the first thing on my mind. Practically all the dug up suits in Iron Blood Orphans and Turn A count too.
The one thing you didn't mention on the list is the Gundam X. This thing was decades old by the time it got used in series.
True. Plus the Gundam X was a production model, rather than a one off. It really shows how bad things got that mass satellite cannon fire was just 'a thing you do' during that war.
TBF almost every MS from Gundam X in exception from New UN one like Virsago-Astaroth, Daughtress Neo, DX and maybe Bertigo are relic from the past.
The Flag is by far my favorite grunt suit. A lot of cool variants and the GN Brave is such a good development.
This make me more interesting in gunpla army build. With more focus on the lore of older ms and its application in their own universe, I found that is interesting build with different ms that can work together like tallgesse and leo. I hope if you can make more of gunpla army build that suitable the ms with each other like tallgesse with leo, Gundam with gm and etc. Thank you.
Considering Wing is somewhere on the bottom of the list compared to other series, the Tallgeese(specially III), has a soft spot in my heart. It was more mechanical and realistic for our world when looking into the details on it's design and platings. I need to buy another Tallgeese 3 gunpla and smash it due to your video now.
I love the development history. Would really like to see one for the federation GM
I've always said
Grim-Ger-day cuz I figured it was either French or German
It would be Germanic as Norse motif is what Gjallarhjorn is full of, even to the nobles families' coat of arms.
@@Joshua_N-A Like IBO's Gundam that use demons from Ars Goetia, all Valkyrie-frame MS use valkyrie name from Norse Myth.
And here I was just reading the katakana...
Tallgeese aka "Napoleon but a MS". Respect the mohawk.
Paint it red and brass, you'll get a Centurion Tallgeese.
@@Joshua_N-A
Red and Iron Leos to make the foot soldiers. Nice.
@@TheKing-qz9wd buy more Leo kits to make a mobile suit legion. Put Roman numerals and letters on them and shield emblems. This sound like a major project with amount of markers, paints and materials. Imagine the size of the diorama!
@@Joshua_N-A
The worst part is that I hate how the Leo's head and shoulders look so I'd need custom Leos. More parts.
Shout-out to that absolute chad in gundam unicorn who downed like 5 mobile suits using a zaku 1 sniper type
Yonem Kirks? He tried to commit suicide by shooting his backpack reactor, not a very chad thing to do, especially since he failed to cause a nuclear explosion to take himself and the nearest suits out, instead they shot him before he could finish...
@@Feiora thx to graham aker quick wit, slashing both zaku 1 arm
Kakaraot197 deserves more subscribers
Kakarot197: "Kapool with a club doesn't exist, it can't hurt me."
Char Aznable incarnate piloting a Kapool with a club: **Approaching**
Kakarot197: *"YA BE....... 😳"*
>>>>Red Kapool with a club
GDI kakarot197! Now I need to call my therapist....AGAIN!
This is an argument about how to pronounce Titans. Counterattack Char said it wrong.
Tee T-ons!
Tea-Taan
TYTeens
Tie fighters
Whichever pronunciation annoys the Titans most.
actually, the tallgees does get another upgrade in frozen teardrop. and i have read that the Tallgees III may have the zero system installed on it.
I read its called the Interface System: the precursor of the Epyon System
9:49
So... Turn X was actually constructed in a long time ago in a galaxy far far away... *STAR WARS!?*
Doctor: A Kapool with a club is not real, it cant hurt you
Kapool with a club:
Really love this type of our videos man,great job
One of my fav outdated suits is the red Kapool with a club though.
I love the Grimgerde. I would kill to see a fight between it and the Exia.
Every time I click on a gundam video and it starts off with Kakarot, I know its gonna be awesome, subbed
I know someone who calls the Apsalus 'Applesauce'. I call the Kshatriya 'The Russian Yuge Suit'
Kapool with a club is the reason we have ironblooded orphans barbatos
I love the Zaku and that's probably because in every game you could pilot a Zaku that would be the suit I would use to beat the game. Even playing against my friends in 1v1 matches and them using Gundams I'd destroy them. There is just something about using a heat hawk to kill your opponent that always called to me.
Not gonna lie, the Grimgerde debate reminds me of Grimjaw debates back in the bleach days
Isn't Spanish words are often used in Hueco Mundo arc?
i love that even the susanowo or w.e its called from season 2 was a massively upgraded flag
graham is literally that person that takes the starting weapon in a game and throws all their upgrade points into it
and then when he gets a new MS for Awakening of the Trailblazer, it's basically the Flag's grandchild taking elements from the Susanowo while bringing back the transformation
Join the Kapool With A Club Club today!
Love that my two favorites made it on this list, the Tallgeese and the Grimgerde
Tallgese is somehow looks too badass,even with Leo base
7:02 When your weapon is more useful than you
Love this channel and this mobile suits can still a punch. My favorite is the Tallgeese. Great video
11:55 just become a cyber newtype or an innovator.
That virgin red comet wont know what hit him.
Love that old but gold intro as well. Great vid as always
I only recently finished watching Turn A Gundam and I still refuse to call the Zaku a Borjarnon. It just feels so wrong and weird to me.
I like it that you put the bud of wing in this video. Many, if not all, people saw that anime first as the dubbed version on the toonami show. 😃
Well, the Tallgeese, Grimgerde and Over Flag (Custom) were, technically speaking... ACE Units, thus... even with age catching up to them... they're still powerful machines, especially when piloted by ACES. i want to see a list of Old Grunt Suits Piloted by Notable (Not necessarily Aces...) Individuals, but still performed well against "Newer" units.
Yey, more content from the BEST Gundam Channel.
Tallgeese 3 was made using Gundamium alloy used from the Epyon and it's sister unit. It's actually one of the newer model Gundams in the movie.
The Tallgeese proves that Zechs was a complete badass. He was experiencing 15G every time that thing manouvered.
It's funny that there are units like this in Gundam, because they're like analogs to actual outdated military equipment being good despite their age or being obsolete. Best way I can explain it is that the Tallgeese is similar to the BT-5 tank, a tank that despite having a smaller gun compared to the tanks it faced off against, the BT-5 was almost suicidally fast and maneuverable, similar to how despite being outdated by Leos and the Tauruses, the Tallgeese was an absolute monster even against Gundams or newer generation Mobile Suits and Mobile Dolls.
Okay to be fair - The pilot of the "suped up and modernized Gundam Frame" was an idiot. The Frame wasn't able to perform at even its minimal potential without an Alaya-Vijnana system.
Mcgillis should have double tapped.
I was in Gundam crossrays reading the talgeese lines as the video was speaking them, the commitment to dialogue is impressive in crossrays lol
No mobile suit can beat the outdated intro of Kakarot197. Old but Gold
My favorite is the valkyria frame with the ability to go toe to toe with gundam frames in the hands of a skilled pilot