Thanks for the review! I really appreciate the little details like all the small consumables that are required. Not a lot of equipment reviews go through that sort of stuff. Affordable resin printing might get me into 3d printing. I've never liked the rough resolution on filament printers. The output from this looks incredible.
That's exactly why I went with the Elegoo Mars. I too wanted to get into 3d printing, and FDM is just so low quality I just had no interest. The Mars is pretty great, but the Elegoo Saturn is nicely above that. ( Saturn is Elegoos equal to the Photon Mono X. They use the same screen. ) The Saturn far outsold Elegoos expectations, so they won't have it in stock on Amazon until sometime next month, and will probably sell out pretty fast. Here's a bad image of an example of what the Saturn can do out of the box: pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek_ZcvfWkAACS3d?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 That's another thing that doesn't get mentioned much: SLA basically just works out of the box, while FDM requires a lot of tweaking. Now, that isn't to say there isn't plenty of tweaking that can be involved in SLA. There are a lot of settings that need to be tweaked for different things. However, if you stick with a simple grey resin ( always start there ), it's amazing how well it can go.
@@zemerick Awesome info cheers, what about cost of the final product. To make the same product does it cost a lot more in consumables with a sla vs fdm printer ? I thing for now - protorptyping I'll get an ender 3 pro for ~£150 and then later look at these products.. Money is not an issue, it's just that I prefer to properly invest in something when I know alot about it.. so having FDM to start seems like the way I may go
@@ivangutowski If you don't NEED the size, you could get an Elegoo Mars for about $190 us to try out how SLA works, then if it's good for you invest in something better. SLA does tend to cost more than FDM, but it has also come down a lot. It's a bit hard to directly compare though, as there are lots of factors on both sides. The simplest though is material price. I'm not too familiar with FDM, but last I heard was something around $15-20 / KG. Most resins are $35-45 / kg, but some are just $25 or so. ( And can be perfectly good, such as Siraya Tech Simple. ) Outside of the basic resins though, price can indeed absolutely soar. There are resins that are in the hundreds of dollars per KG. I prefer Elegoo and Siraya Tech for my resin.
One of the most helpful and comprehensive videos on resin printing and the process involved that I've seen thus far. I was pretty apprehensive about it at first, but it actually doesn't seem as daunting as I first thought if you use a little care and precautions. Thanks!
I have a question. Can this Model of 3D Printer, print in color? I just see the grey colored resin's? That would really be worth the money if it could do that! I'm not saying it's bad in any way, and the scale and definition this resin printer achieves is astounding! But, color would put it over the top. Thanks for a great video, Norm and Crew! Stay safe!
Are there any 3D scanner tools which you could review/test? While I understand the joy of creation of creations sake, the ability to scan a part to modify or repair/replace is really interesting.
Don't let the advancement of tech hold you back ! Get a printer that suits you and only upgrade if you really feel like the newer feature will make your life that much better :)
@@Morganistalking Making something very complex with intricate details being done in that kind of time isn't viable for at least another 10 years. It's like expecting a sculptor or artist to finish that fast. This stuff is too custom and complex to expect something not to take time to be done. Also it's not like you're physically sitting there doing it.
I have just ordered one of these printers and this is genuinely the most helpful review I've ever watched. Clear, concise and full of useful information and tips. Good job!
This is maybe not the place to ask it, but you happen to share my (pretty rare) last name. I was gonna DM you but apparently you can’t on TH-cam, do you have any public instagrams or something I could ask you some questions? I don’t encounter a lot of Ainslie’s I don’t know so I was pretty surprised to see that name pop up. If not no worries.
I'm just learning 3d printing with a regular filament printer and the resin printer is a miracle of tech in my eyes. The things one can create with this absolutely brilliant.
I would love for one of you guys to do a full breakdown on proper clean up and disposal of all the waste generated from 3d printing. The resin gets into everything. Right now, I throw what ever gets resin on it into a box with a UV lamp to cure, but a giant tub of IPA is something else.
I still remember the video where you went to see the formlabs printer and were talking about how someday people might have one on their desktop. How far we have come!
This was one of the most Informative videos I’ve watched about the Mono X…I have one coming in the mail soon and will be referencing your video as I start my 3D printing journey!
great explanation, Norm! Love that you add this content on the tested stream. I will use this to help explain the process to others about the differences between resin/filament printing. Just got a phrozen mini 4k with the mono screen. First foray into resin after printing with a Prusa mk3 for about 3 years. Thanks again, Norm! Loving this content!
I've had a photon for years, and just upgraded to the Mono X (and a base Mono) and I love them both! The increased speed and size is absolutely a game changer In addition, there's another change that is extremely welcome. My old original photon vented air from the build chamber out of the printer so it produced a lot of fumes. The new mono printers don't do that, so as long as the lid is on there's practically no fumes (it's not a perfect seal, but close). So I'm able to work near them without any trouble.
I now have a really good idea of what to look for when buying a MSLA printer. You obviously have a lot of knowledge about this topic - thank you for sharing!
I am looking at one of these right now. This would be my first printer. I see a lot can do with, and I have been watching this type way before anyone know of resin 3D printers were outside the big industrial type.
@@Ozzy2341 I've been printing so much that I went through 1kg bottle in a week. Getting familiar with supports and billowing the build with proper drain holes. It's a real learning curve.
If you don't want to use the crappy ass Photon slicer this has been my workflow through Chitubox. - Do all your printing prep (Supports, hollowing, adding holes, ect.) in Chitubox. - Export the supported model as a STL file. - Import your supported model into 3D builder (Free Microsoft software) and repair the file, if needed. - Import repaired STL to Photon slicer and slice it up. Hope this helps someone. This was my first 3D printer but I did a ton of research while I waited for the printer to get delivered. This work flow has worked flawlessly for me. P.S. great review!
Had one for a week on loan from my neighbor and the only reason why i'm not switching from my CR-10 mod is because i'm perfectly ok with prototyping around the little bits that the resin printers can make from scratch. To me, the precision i've achieved with the CR-10 is far faster and perfectly acceptable vs the whole resin process. That said, if i'd start fresh, i'd likely choose the resin over mine.
Norm, Thank you so much for this video, my first 3D printer was the Elegoo Mars and it was easy to use and dial in the settings. I recently upgraded to the Anycubic Mono X and I was really struggling to get the settings right, I print mostly mini and props so when I saw your settings I took a screen shot and I’m going to try and them tonight and see what success I have. Great video keep up the good work.
@Markel216 working perfectly I may dial back my bottom exposure time from 60 to something in the neighborhood of 35 or so which should speed up the prints a bit but all other settings re perfect!
Very articulate and accurate description of the ENTIRE process. There is far too much post-production cleaning requiring a dedicated space for all of the necessary supplies. This obviously is a segment of the hobby for those with the computing power to manipulate the 3D models (not an older iMac) and a proficiency in 3d jargon, apps, programs, etc. I guess I’ll just buy printed parts from online vendors.
Thanks for everything you mentioned at the beginning of the video. This is the first time I buy a 3D printer and I wanted to make sure I could get something good to start for a couple of years. With that said, I had to choose between the Eleego Mars 3, Eleego Saturn or this one, the Anycubic Photon Mono X. The big variety of choices mislead me to almost buy an old version, but thanks to most reviews, including yours, I decided to give this printer a try. Not gonna lie, I'm pretty excited. Now I'm looking for the correct Cure & Wash machine for this printer.
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Norman, this is a great review and I'm glad to see you having fun with this great printer. One thing that was missing for me, was to address the use of resins. What's the cost of resins, what different types of resin have you used, and most importantly: do you have options for this printer that are not proprietary? I think that's a big deal for resin printers as many of them may (or may not) have a low price of acquisition, but then the user will be stuck having to buy supplies from that company at a higher price point. Looking forward to more reviews, and thanks for making this video!
I feel i have to comment just to say great job, I getting a resin printer (waiting on delivery) and this was really good coverage of teh whole set up and process. I have watched tested for years now (since we lost mythnbusters and i needed a savage) and Norm you really have grown in to the role over the years. Looking forward to when restrictions are lifted and we get to see you guys back togtahrer working on projects. I think you need to print out a baby yoda for Adam to paint and finish ;)
It's actually a reallly bad coverage. My man WAS NOT WEARING A MASK and did not talk about the toxicity and fumes from uncured resin. Like, holy shit, just the location alone (no open ventilation right next to resin printer) screams (novice).
Can we get an update on Oculus Medium as a sculpting software for 3D Printing? There was that awesome video with Frank a while back and I'm really curious to see how the process and software has improved since then!
Pro tip I figured out, with it being harder to find isopropyl alcohol. Filter it through a Life Straw. It gets it at least clear again, if not all of the resin out. It what I use for my Form prints. I have a large oil filter hooked up to some rubber tubing clamped to a life straw. It takes a bit to go through, but it's cleaned it better than Britta filters, oil filters or coffee filters by far.
Thanks, Norm for a really useful video. I have the wee photon but the Mono X looks better and I see they have decent guide rails so less wobble on the Z axis.
Would love to see the brilliant leaps in print quality MSLA gives us leading a shift back to physical studio models for film and tv sci fi ships over cgi. Looking forward to the day when I can download any iconic ship/vehicle in kit form to print and build with no more fretting over losing or botching up bits and being able to produce custom parts easily and quickly.
Something you didn't touch on that I'm curious about because it's just set up in that enclosed space: How is the smell/fumes? I've heard that UV cure resins have an unpleasant smell and can even be harmful if you breathe in the fumes. Is that room at all ventilated, or is it an exaggerated concern?
Well...this IS the "large format" for resin atm. ( There are some slightly larger, but I think they're more in the $1,500 range, and fairly proprietary. ) Elegoo has teased a "Jupiter" coming eventually though. No details yet.
@@zemerick Oh no, there's large format printers for the consumer market. The cheap ones are about $2500 at the moment. Correction: The Peopoly Phenom MSLA has come down to 2k. Still, original wishlist/desire holds true.
@@C-M-E The Phenom is largely what I was talking about, but it's really still in the same size class as the Mono X / Saturn ( and trades off that slightly larger size with being equally lower detail since it's still only 4k ), and then being twice the price you were mentioning. Things in the SLA space are definitely moving fast though. It was only about a year ago I bought a Mars on sale for $260, and now they're $190 base price, with multiple variants. If Elegoo could manage a similar improvement to the Saturn, that would put it at around $365 in a year, leaving lots of room for a well priced Jupiter.
I was an early adopter, and by the time i received the printer (about 3 weeks ago) lichee slicer already supported it, in fact it was the only slicer i could find that did...
You really don’t want to stay in a room with the printer for too long. It is a very unpleasant smell, but it really also depends on the resin you use. Don’t cheap out on resin. The higher end resins have less odours and better print quality.
The Anycubic resin smells pretty bad but the Siraya Fast Grey he's using in the video isn't bad at all. You still need lots of ventilation though, especially since your prints will be going straight into alcohol for cleaning afterwards.
Elegoo resins also have pretty low odor. It's a fairly typical plastic smell, and in normal use with a lower odor resin is completely trivial. For comparison, IPA / Acetone are orders of magnitude worse.
It also depends on the printer. My old original Anycubic photon vented air from the build chamber out of the printer so it produced a lot of fumes. The new mono printers don't do that, so as long as the lid is on there's practically no fumes (it's not a perfect seal, but close). So I'm able to work near them without any trouble.
Been using this printer for 3 weeks. As a first time user I had difficulty getting the prints to stick to the plate. I was using anycubic resin and 70% of the prints weren't adhering. I switched over to Siraya after someone on reddit recommended I try a different resin, and I've been having 100% success. I setup a station in my garage so smells aren't an issue. It smells, but honestly the IPA smells worse than the resin imo. Overall, I love it and the quality is amazing. Shoutout to Eastman for his amazing busts... Deadpool, Darth, etc...
Toward the end of the vid I was wondering about how long you could use the IPA before you had to change it and could you filter out the particulate resin and reuse the alcohol. 5 seconds later you told us how you do it!!!!! An informative review of the MONO X, and a nicely instructive vid for general mono printing. Now get your your hands on the Elegoo Saturn and review that. THANKS!!!!!
Thanks for uploading this video, I found it very informative. The first 3d printer I bought for myself is a Voxelab Aquilla and I do love it. I wanted to get another 3d printer that does resin and after watching this video I am pretty much sold on this one. I print a lot of Deadpool items for my friends and to sell just for fun, I also make my own designs and print them. I am looking forward to getting my resin 3d printer.
From watching you work you really need to pull the vat out and clean things up as you dripped some resin right onto the screening surface as it dripped right down the side of the vat. I find it best to move the build plate away from the machine as quickly as possible and also raise the build plate about 20 mm higher than you did giving yourself room to work. On the clean up get Photo's wash and cure station as that makes short work of cleaning up the prints. Then I found that it's okay to wash the build plate, resin vat, and all other parts with Dawn soap and a fine sponge, but always dry the build plate and resin vat with a microfiber towel. Don't use normal paper towels as they will scratch the FEP making it hazy causing it to not print with the clarity we all love about these resin printers. Now I also noticed that you didn't cover the wash container which means someone like me needs to tell you that Alcohol is anhydrous meaning substances like this will actually pull moister out of the air in to them so keep things covered as best you can to avoid this better for the life of the Alcohol.
I literally just started to look at resin printers the day before this aired! This is such great video explaining it, and my gosh I can't wait to get one, though I'll probably go with a phrozen 4k mini over this unit ^-^
No, the photon S is still a powerful tool. I purchased a Mono X because of their easter sale but I still plan to run my original photon regularly. The mono screens are faster but they're still going to require multiple hours for prints. Also, the Photon S may be older but that also means it's going to have greater support. People have used it more than the newer monos so you're bound to find more support articles for trouble shooting and should run into less issues when following said guides.
This is a myth. The well educated astronaut actually said "Houston, WE'VE HAD a problem." The reason was that the problem could not be immediately reported back to Earth.
I've been looking into resin printers, recently, so this was a great help. Thanks Norm! Just curious, are you using IPA in the Wash and Cure, as well? Or just water?
Simple Green is actively bad with the Siraya Tech resins. It makes the prints gummy. However, denatured alcohol works great. I found mine at Woodcraft.
If this is the first printer you had in your home to play with, I'm so envious of you right now lol. Look how big that bloody build plate is 😍 Edit: just use lychee slicer guys, it's a great go to for anycubic.
3D printers are so cheap these days, and that's not to mention the deals you can get. I just bought this printer on sale for half price and it's my first SLA printer. Can't wait to try it.
Just got one free, result of a Ebay purchase gone wrong, so will likely sell it cheap. I purchased a used Anycubic Mega X FDM printer, and the seller shipped this by mistake. Several exchanges later looks like I get a refund and get to keep it... Just too much involved for me not being into printing quality miniatures or jewelry, etc.
@@brianmi40 completely understandable, other than setting up the machine it’s a lot more demanding than FDM printers. I will say it’s almost worth the trouble to get a nice clear print, and it’s also great for making mold patterns which is my primary use case.
@@funx24X7 For sure, since it's free, and appears never assembled (great buys on Ebay as "unrepairs" which are customer returns to Amazon), I may keep it and play with it at some point. Watching some videos, as their latest Mono X 6K model with the 9" screen it's a solid printer...
I was actually surprised at the $760 price tag. I used to be a Lab Tech for my colleges 3D Printing lab and can remember shopping out printers like afinia that were thousands of dollars and not even in the ball park of 0.01 layer thickness. And this was only 4ish years ago.
The technology is advancing really quickly - the smaller SLA printers prior to this used OEM screens which were very cheap and the solution to the pricing problem, whereas these newer 'mono' printers are FAR better performance and more tailored to the technology.
The Elgoo Saturn will be just $500! And 200 people got one for just $400 after shipping. Note though that with mSLA printers, layer thickness doesn't mean much. The real factor is the pixel pitch, in this case .05mm. Oh, and that's only because these are large format monochrome versions. Standard RGB screened printers are only about $190 for the same detail level.
remember that the LCD screen itself is a consumable in these printers. 1000-2000 hours expected life. So load up that build plate every time to get your full moneys worth before needing to swap screens
Buyers beware anycubic took 50 days for them to tell me I wasn't going to be able to get my package the M3 Max the washing&cure and the filters so which would have been three boxes were all lost in the mail but the mail company says they never received them
Thanks for the review! I really appreciate the little details like all the small consumables that are required. Not a lot of equipment reviews go through that sort of stuff. Affordable resin printing might get me into 3d printing. I've never liked the rough resolution on filament printers. The output from this looks incredible.
That's exactly why I went with the Elegoo Mars. I too wanted to get into 3d printing, and FDM is just so low quality I just had no interest.
The Mars is pretty great, but the Elegoo Saturn is nicely above that. ( Saturn is Elegoos equal to the Photon Mono X. They use the same screen. ) The Saturn far outsold Elegoos expectations, so they won't have it in stock on Amazon until sometime next month, and will probably sell out pretty fast.
Here's a bad image of an example of what the Saturn can do out of the box:
pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek_ZcvfWkAACS3d?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
That's another thing that doesn't get mentioned much: SLA basically just works out of the box, while FDM requires a lot of tweaking.
Now, that isn't to say there isn't plenty of tweaking that can be involved in SLA. There are a lot of settings that need to be tweaked for different things. However, if you stick with a simple grey resin ( always start there ), it's amazing how well it can go.
Yeah, it will cost a little more, especially since IPA and gloves are harder to find right now. But the quality really makes it worth it.
If you've printing mins and such, resin is definitely the way to go. But for functional prototypes and such, you'll still want a FDM printer.
@@zemerick Awesome info cheers, what about cost of the final product. To make the same product does it cost a lot more in consumables with a sla vs fdm printer ?
I thing for now - protorptyping I'll get an ender 3 pro for ~£150 and then later look at these products..
Money is not an issue, it's just that I prefer to properly invest in something when I know alot about it.. so having FDM to start seems like the way I may go
@@ivangutowski If you don't NEED the size, you could get an Elegoo Mars for about $190 us to try out how SLA works, then if it's good for you invest in something better.
SLA does tend to cost more than FDM, but it has also come down a lot. It's a bit hard to directly compare though, as there are lots of factors on both sides.
The simplest though is material price. I'm not too familiar with FDM, but last I heard was something around $15-20 / KG.
Most resins are $35-45 / kg, but some are just $25 or so. ( And can be perfectly good, such as Siraya Tech Simple. )
Outside of the basic resins though, price can indeed absolutely soar. There are resins that are in the hundreds of dollars per KG.
I prefer Elegoo and Siraya Tech for my resin.
One of the most helpful and comprehensive videos on resin printing and the process involved that I've seen thus far. I was pretty apprehensive about it at first, but it actually doesn't seem as daunting as I first thought if you use a little care and precautions. Thanks!
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My son is a hobbyist and in the market for his first 3d printer. Thank you for this video, Adam. It was incredibly helpful!
This was the most informative, clearly explain and best presented video out of all the ones I've seen on this printer. Very nice work!
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I have a question. Can this Model of 3D Printer, print in color? I just see the grey colored resin's? That would really be worth the money if it could do that! I'm not saying it's bad in any way, and the scale and definition this resin printer achieves is astounding! But, color would put it over the top. Thanks for a great video, Norm and Crew! Stay safe!
Nvm, I see that all 3D Printer's, have only one color. The vat has only one resin in it. Which would make it only one color.
Oh, it's later in the video. lol! Nvm.
Are there any 3D scanner tools which you could review/test? While I understand the joy of creation of creations sake, the ability to scan a part to modify or repair/replace is really interesting.
What resin was used for the storm trooper helmet?
The advancement of 3D printers is so rapid that it keeps me from buying and starting the hobby.
I'm going to start here!
Don't let the advancement of tech hold you back ! Get a printer that suits you and only upgrade if you really feel like the newer feature will make your life that much better :)
It's the time sink for me. They are just too slow. I want a model in 30 mins max, not hours.
@@Morganistalking Making something very complex with intricate details being done in that kind of time isn't viable for at least another 10 years. It's like expecting a sculptor or artist to finish that fast. This stuff is too custom and complex to expect something not to take time to be done. Also it's not like you're physically sitting there doing it.
@@Shakiahjprod yeah I get you. Still needs to be quicker for me personally.
I have just ordered one of these printers and this is genuinely the most helpful review I've ever watched. Clear, concise and full of useful information and tips. Good job!
I would have loved to see Adam’s reaction to this. It would be interesting to see from his perspective to see how far making has come.
Really well explained and comprehensive- nice job Norm!
Thanks!
was going to write the same, keep up the good work!
agreed, thanks
This is maybe not the place to ask it, but you happen to share my (pretty rare) last name. I was gonna DM you but apparently you can’t on TH-cam, do you have any public instagrams or something I could ask you some questions? I don’t encounter a lot of Ainslie’s I don’t know so I was pretty surprised to see that name pop up. If not no worries.
@@AnnLiesArtist bruh...
I'm just learning 3d printing with a regular filament printer and the resin printer is a miracle of tech in my eyes. The things one can create with this absolutely brilliant.
I would love for one of you guys to do a full breakdown on proper clean up and disposal of all the waste generated from 3d printing. The resin gets into everything. Right now, I throw what ever gets resin on it into a box with a UV lamp to cure, but a giant tub of IPA is something else.
I still remember the video where you went to see the formlabs printer and were talking about how someday people might have one on their desktop. How far we have come!
Forget the printer - that Batman poster is brilliant!
Norm has excellent taste in interior design.
Ha!
This was one of the most Informative videos I’ve watched about the Mono X…I have one coming in the mail soon and will be referencing your video as I start my 3D printing journey!
great explanation, Norm! Love that you add this content on the tested stream. I will use this to help explain the process to others about the differences between resin/filament printing. Just got a phrozen mini 4k with the mono screen. First foray into resin after printing with a Prusa mk3 for about 3 years. Thanks again, Norm! Loving this content!
Prusa settings for Photon Mono X please?
3D Printing is growing so fast that I can't wait to see a resin printer that prints in color.
The tips at the end on workflow have been tremendous, we need more of that.
I've had a photon for years, and just upgraded to the Mono X (and a base Mono) and I love them both! The increased speed and size is absolutely a game changer
In addition, there's another change that is extremely welcome. My old original photon vented air from the build chamber out of the printer so it produced a lot of fumes. The new mono printers don't do that, so as long as the lid is on there's practically no fumes (it's not a perfect seal, but close). So I'm able to work near them without any trouble.
Is there any data on how it emits fewer fumes?
Mine arrived today! I’ll be posting some process videos soon
Thanks, Norm, for a thorough and complete review. I learned a lot.
I now have a really good idea of what to look for when buying a MSLA printer. You obviously have a lot of knowledge about this topic - thank you for sharing!
This video is what sold me on getting the Photon Mono X as my first printer!!
Just ordered mine with a wash station. The anticipation is killing me.
Mine is coming in 2 weeks reee.
Mine seems to be lost :(
@@jeeplvr2000 Well I ordered it from Amazon. so if it takes too long I'll just cancel my order :(
I am looking at one of these right now. This would be my first printer. I see a lot can do with, and I have been watching this type way before anyone know of resin 3D printers were outside the big industrial type.
Drink everytime he says "workflow". 😄 Nice video Norm!
Just picked this printer up on a special 11.11 deal for less than $500. Can't wait to get into printing, super excited!
Did you start printing ? How do you like it so far
@@Ozzy2341 I've been printing so much that I went through 1kg bottle in a week. Getting familiar with supports and billowing the build with proper drain holes. It's a real learning curve.
great in depth reviews on most any product. Truly admirable work, you guys.
Sold!!! Great review! First time 3d printer-rer here!
I’m looking to jump in to resin 3D printing. This is the best video I’ve seen explaining the process. Thank you Norm!!!
6:15 Another benefit is that the LCD lasts a lot longer before it wears out and needs replacing.
This was so simply explained, and you flawlessly walked us through every step! 👏
Man, the print quality of SLA printers blows my mind every time.
Hey .....thank you for this....I just got a Mono X and the wash and cure station...
This is amazing content....I SO appreciate it.
If you don't want to use the crappy ass Photon slicer this has been my workflow through Chitubox.
- Do all your printing prep (Supports, hollowing, adding holes, ect.) in Chitubox.
- Export the supported model as a STL file.
- Import your supported model into 3D builder (Free Microsoft software) and repair the file, if needed.
- Import repaired STL to Photon slicer and slice it up.
Hope this helps someone. This was my first 3D printer but I did a ton of research while I waited for the printer to get delivered. This work flow has worked flawlessly for me.
P.S. great review!
Had one for a week on loan from my neighbor and the only reason why i'm not switching from my CR-10 mod is because i'm perfectly ok with prototyping around the little bits that the resin printers can make from scratch. To me, the precision i've achieved with the CR-10 is far faster and perfectly acceptable vs the whole resin process. That said, if i'd start fresh, i'd likely choose the resin over mine.
Bought one of these yesterday because it was on sale for 210 bucks on Amazon . If you want one check there from time to time!
Great vid Norm!
The wash and cure plus station is awesome.
Norm,
Thank you so much for this video, my first 3D printer was the Elegoo Mars and it was easy to use and dial in the settings. I recently upgraded to the Anycubic Mono X and I was really struggling to get the settings right, I print mostly mini and props so when I saw your settings I took a screen shot and I’m going to try and them tonight and see what success I have. Great video keep up the good work.
@Markel216 working perfectly I may dial back my bottom exposure time from 60 to something in the neighborhood of 35 or so which should speed up the prints a bit but all other settings re perfect!
Ypu are so thorough in you explanations-REALLY appreciated!!!
Great content. Clear , simple and light.
just bought this printer, so stoked. Thanks for putting the video out
Very articulate and accurate description of the ENTIRE process. There is far too much post-production cleaning requiring a dedicated space for all of the necessary supplies. This obviously is a segment of the hobby for those with the computing power to manipulate the 3D models (not an older iMac) and a proficiency in 3d jargon, apps, programs, etc. I guess I’ll just buy printed parts from online vendors.
the drip straight down the vat and underneath onto the LCD screen hurt me at 17:18
Thanks for everything you mentioned at the beginning of the video. This is the first time I buy a 3D printer and I wanted to make sure I could get something good to start for a couple of years. With that said, I had to choose between the Eleego Mars 3, Eleego Saturn or this one, the Anycubic Photon Mono X. The big variety of choices mislead me to almost buy an old version, but thanks to most reviews, including yours, I decided to give this printer a try.
Not gonna lie, I'm pretty excited. Now I'm looking for the correct Cure & Wash machine for this printer.
Norman, this is a great review and I'm glad to see you having fun with this great printer.
One thing that was missing for me, was to address the use of resins. What's the cost of resins, what different types of resin have you used, and most importantly: do you have options for this printer that are not proprietary? I think that's a big deal for resin printers as many of them may (or may not) have a low price of acquisition, but then the user will be stuck having to buy supplies from that company at a higher price point. Looking forward to more reviews, and thanks for making this video!
Great video, Norm! I am thinking about getting into 3d printing and I am a complete novice. This video has been a huge help, thanks!
Thanks for posting this! I just got my first printer- a Photon Mono, and I can’t wait to put it to work👍
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Thank you for this detailed review. It was comprehensive and also it covered things i had not know about.
I feel i have to comment just to say great job, I getting a resin printer (waiting on delivery) and this was really good coverage of teh whole set up and process. I have watched tested for years now (since we lost mythnbusters and i needed a savage) and Norm you really have grown in to the role over the years. Looking forward to when restrictions are lifted and we get to see you guys back togtahrer working on projects. I think you need to print out a baby yoda for Adam to paint and finish ;)
It's actually a reallly bad coverage.
My man WAS NOT WEARING A MASK and did not talk about the toxicity and fumes from uncured resin.
Like, holy shit, just the location alone (no open ventilation right next to resin printer) screams (novice).
gettin my 1st 3d printer. an anycubic photon and the cure and wash station, awesome sale by them
Can we get an update on Oculus Medium as a sculpting software for 3D Printing? There was that awesome video with Frank a while back and I'm really curious to see how the process and software has improved since then!
As ever, Norm, excellent work. Thanks for this.
Pro tip I figured out, with it being harder to find isopropyl alcohol. Filter it through a Life Straw. It gets it at least clear again, if not all of the resin out. It what I use for my Form prints. I have a large oil filter hooked up to some rubber tubing clamped to a life straw. It takes a bit to go through, but it's cleaned it better than Britta filters, oil filters or coffee filters by far.
Mean green works very well and is much easier to find
Will try it!
Thanks, Norm for a really useful video. I have the wee photon but the Mono X looks better and I see they have decent guide rails so less wobble on the Z axis.
This was very good. Good details and clearly presented. Thanks.
Would love to see the brilliant leaps in print quality MSLA gives us leading a shift back to physical studio models for film and tv sci fi ships over cgi. Looking forward to the day when I can download any iconic ship/vehicle in kit form to print and build with no more fretting over losing or botching up bits and being able to produce custom parts easily and quickly.
Something you didn't touch on that I'm curious about because it's just set up in that enclosed space: How is the smell/fumes? I've heard that UV cure resins have an unpleasant smell and can even be harmful if you breathe in the fumes. Is that room at all ventilated, or is it an exaggerated concern?
Now if we could get these in large format for around 1K, I'd be a buyer tomorrow!
Well...this IS the "large format" for resin atm. ( There are some slightly larger, but I think they're more in the $1,500 range, and fairly proprietary. )
Elegoo has teased a "Jupiter" coming eventually though. No details yet.
@@zemerick Oh no, there's large format printers for the consumer market. The cheap ones are about $2500 at the moment.
Correction: The Peopoly Phenom MSLA has come down to 2k. Still, original wishlist/desire holds true.
@@C-M-E The Phenom is largely what I was talking about, but it's really still in the same size class as the Mono X / Saturn ( and trades off that slightly larger size with being equally lower detail since it's still only 4k ), and then being twice the price you were mentioning.
Things in the SLA space are definitely moving fast though. It was only about a year ago I bought a Mars on sale for $260, and now they're $190 base price, with multiple variants. If Elegoo could manage a similar improvement to the Saturn, that would put it at around $365 in a year, leaving lots of room for a well priced Jupiter.
Thank you for this impressive review.
Im considering buying one, I hear the print quality is better with resin printers.
It’s far superior. Take it from me I wasted 1k on PLA
The printer is nice. That Batman poster is AWESOME.
Incredible job! Great video!
This a great review and workflow! Easy enough for any beginner who just got this same printer. it's me. Thank you
Can't wait to get one and start printing a 40k Titan
I was an early adopter, and by the time i received the printer (about 3 weeks ago) lichee slicer already supported it, in fact it was the only slicer i could find that did...
going to buy one with my stimulus check ;)
Lol I just did not this model but same brand smaller size to start
I'm curious about odors. What kind of stink do the resins make? How do those odors compare to printing ABS on an FDM printer, for example.
You really don’t want to stay in a room with the printer for too long. It is a very unpleasant smell, but it really also depends on the resin you use. Don’t cheap out on resin. The higher end resins have less odours and better print quality.
The Anycubic resin smells pretty bad but the Siraya Fast Grey he's using in the video isn't bad at all. You still need lots of ventilation though, especially since your prints will be going straight into alcohol for cleaning afterwards.
Elegoo resins also have pretty low odor. It's a fairly typical plastic smell, and in normal use with a lower odor resin is completely trivial. For comparison, IPA / Acetone are orders of magnitude worse.
It also depends on the printer. My old original Anycubic photon vented air from the build chamber out of the printer so it produced a lot of fumes. The new mono printers don't do that, so as long as the lid is on there's practically no fumes (it's not a perfect seal, but close). So I'm able to work near them without any trouble.
Been using this printer for 3 weeks. As a first time user I had difficulty getting the prints to stick to the plate. I was using anycubic resin and 70% of the prints weren't adhering. I switched over to Siraya after someone on reddit recommended I try a different resin, and I've been having 100% success. I setup a station in my garage so smells aren't an issue. It smells, but honestly the IPA smells worse than the resin imo. Overall, I love it and the quality is amazing. Shoutout to Eastman for his amazing busts... Deadpool, Darth, etc...
Toward the end of the vid I was wondering about how long you could use the IPA before you had to change it and could you filter out the particulate resin and reuse the alcohol. 5 seconds later you told us how you do it!!!!! An informative review of the MONO X, and a nicely instructive vid for general mono printing. Now get your your hands on the Elegoo Saturn and review that. THANKS!!!!!
Thanks for uploading this video, I found it very informative. The first 3d printer I bought for myself is a Voxelab Aquilla and I do love it. I wanted to get another 3d printer that does resin and after watching this video I am pretty much sold on this one. I print a lot of Deadpool items for my friends and to sell just for fun, I also make my own designs and print them. I am looking forward to getting my resin 3d printer.
Love the detailed explanations
From watching you work you really need to pull the vat out and clean things up as you dripped some resin right onto the screening surface as it dripped right down the side of the vat. I find it best to move the build plate away from the machine as quickly as possible and also raise the build plate about 20 mm higher than you did giving yourself room to work. On the clean up get Photo's wash and cure station as that makes short work of cleaning up the prints. Then I found that it's okay to wash the build plate, resin vat, and all other parts with Dawn soap and a fine sponge, but always dry the build plate and resin vat with a microfiber towel. Don't use normal paper towels as they will scratch the FEP making it hazy causing it to not print with the clarity we all love about these resin printers.
Now I also noticed that you didn't cover the wash container which means someone like me needs to tell you that Alcohol is anhydrous meaning substances like this will actually pull moister out of the air in to them so keep things covered as best you can to avoid this better for the life of the Alcohol.
Thank you for this informative video. Excellent work.
Thank you for a very informative video. Awesome!
Great review! I found this very useful :) Thank you
I literally just started to look at resin printers the day before this aired! This is such great video explaining it, and my gosh I can't wait to get one, though I'll probably go with a phrozen 4k mini over this unit ^-^
loving the keyboard
been looking at different once and I like this one the best although because of budgets i have to go smaller. THANKS! This is very helpful
Your telling me I wasted money on the ANYCUBIC PHOTON S as my first? Literally picked it up last night...and now I think I should of waiting for this.
No, the photon S is still a powerful tool. I purchased a Mono X because of their easter sale but I still plan to run my original photon regularly. The mono screens are faster but they're still going to require multiple hours for prints. Also, the Photon S may be older but that also means it's going to have greater support. People have used it more than the newer monos so you're bound to find more support articles for trouble shooting and should run into less issues when following said guides.
I'm sold.
This video inspired me to get this printer. It's amazing.
17:18: Houston we have a problem. Resin dripped outside the tank and could seep over the screen!
This is a myth. The well educated astronaut actually said "Houston, WE'VE HAD a problem." The reason was that the problem could not be immediately reported back to Earth.
So you soak the parts in IPA then wash it in more IPA?
I've been looking into resin printers, recently, so this was a great help. Thanks Norm!
Just curious, are you using IPA in the Wash and Cure, as well? Or just water?
Ipa mate
What would you recommend the UV power % should be for translucent resin?
The LycheeSlicer supports the Mono X printer and the .pwmx file format.
Ahhhh!! The LCARS keyboard! So bummed I missed out on that run...
18:34 Since IPA is hard to find in stores right now I've found that Simple Green works very well too. It's also a lot cheaper and safer.
Simple Green is actively bad with the Siraya Tech resins. It makes the prints gummy. However, denatured alcohol works great. I found mine at Woodcraft.
The cleaning is actually dependent on the specific resins used, but it is hard to get men to read the instructions.
How do you deal with the fumes? How is the smell of the resin in other parts of the house?
If this is the first printer you had in your home to play with, I'm so envious of you right now lol.
Look how big that bloody build plate is 😍
Edit: just use lychee slicer guys, it's a great go to for anycubic.
3D printers are so cheap these days, and that's not to mention the deals you can get. I just bought this printer on sale for half price and it's my first SLA printer. Can't wait to try it.
Just got one free, result of a Ebay purchase gone wrong, so will likely sell it cheap. I purchased a used Anycubic Mega X FDM printer, and the seller shipped this by mistake. Several exchanges later looks like I get a refund and get to keep it...
Just too much involved for me not being into printing quality miniatures or jewelry, etc.
@@brianmi40 completely understandable, other than setting up the machine it’s a lot more demanding than FDM printers.
I will say it’s almost worth the trouble to get a nice clear print, and it’s also great for making mold patterns which is my primary use case.
@@funx24X7 For sure, since it's free, and appears never assembled (great buys on Ebay as "unrepairs" which are customer returns to Amazon), I may keep it and play with it at some point. Watching some videos, as their latest Mono X 6K model with the 9" screen it's a solid printer...
nothing short of amazing
thanks
I was actually surprised at the $760 price tag. I used to be a Lab Tech for my colleges 3D Printing lab and can remember shopping out printers like afinia that were thousands of dollars and not even in the ball park of 0.01 layer thickness. And this was only 4ish years ago.
The technology is advancing really quickly - the smaller SLA printers prior to this used OEM screens which were very cheap and the solution to the pricing problem, whereas these newer 'mono' printers are FAR better performance and more tailored to the technology.
The Elgoo Saturn will be just $500! And 200 people got one for just $400 after shipping.
Note though that with mSLA printers, layer thickness doesn't mean much. The real factor is the pixel pitch, in this case .05mm.
Oh, and that's only because these are large format monochrome versions. Standard RGB screened printers are only about $190 for the same detail level.
remember that the LCD screen itself is a consumable in these printers. 1000-2000 hours expected life. So load up that build plate every time to get your full moneys worth before needing to swap screens
I see Mia Kay's Chinese dragon from M3DM. I have painted that model :)
So cool to see her stuff here!
Nice review. I have had a Monoprice SLA for a couple of years and want to upgrade to a better quality printer. This one looks really decent!
Buyers beware anycubic took 50 days for them to tell me I wasn't going to be able to get my package the M3 Max the washing&cure and the filters so which would have been three boxes were all lost in the mail but the mail company says they never received them
the mono X was 759 with the wash and cure station a month ago. now it is rising in prices, I'm just gonna wait until the price drop again
You so set off my OCD triggers... when I see you dripping that resin onto the LCD surface... lol