The AMX 30 Super was an upgrade package offered by a West German consortium in the 80s. Most of the automotive parts were replaced including a new 850 hp engine and transmission. The second major part of the upgrade was bringing the FCS to an up to date standard, with a stabilizer, new vision devices and a laser rangefinder. The upgrade was mostly aimed at export customers like Saudi Arabia.
it was even called the Super AMX 30 but Gaijin fudged the name as usual. Definitely a translation issue. Which is also why you will never see the AMX Super 30,which is the same project but done by GIAT ( with their own components obv). The name will 100% get fudged during translation and Gaijin probably thinks its the exact same project which it is not (but with the extremely similar same goal and finished product)
French doctrine after WW2 was mainly "Armor is meaningless just dont get hit" so most of their tanks were designed with speed and firepower in mind. This is why most of them have meh armor even Leclerc. Besides, their doctrine also put a lot of pressure on long range combat. AMX-30 heat for example is a special HEAT round that was designed to work with rifled canons, so the case of the round spin to stabilize round while preventing warhead from spinning to not reduce effectivness of heat charge. Overall most cold war French tanks play like fast in out flank and spank or snipe tanks. You just go to position, sit there avoiding getting hit and fire back at enemies.
To be fair, a lot of early Cold War era tanks had very little armour due to the belief that HEAT rounds or shaped charges would render thick steel armour useless (it did). That was until new armour compositions and ERA/NERA came about tho
@@PanzerPaw I agree most countries designs went towards no armor best armor. Just France took it to the extreme with say AMX-13 series. Lets make smallest, fastest tank with biggest gun we can fit and they bloody did fit 105mm on it. Where most countries went "Yeah maybe we should put at least some armor just in case" France went "Pfff hold my wine because I gonna go fast" this is why Lorraine 40t is a thing simillar to Batchat 25t.
dart and the stabilizer could be the reason its at a much higher BR? its important to note that after the jumbo at 5.7, the next french vehicle with a stabilizer are the vehicles after 9.0. its the reason i tend to visit my japanese lineup at 8.3. the type 74 c and stb 2 have sabot, stabs and a modifiable suspension which relieves me of the stress of using the amx 30s at 8.7.
Given both AMX-30 and Leopard 1 was born from more or less cooperation between West Germany and France, so some feature of both would be there (basically little to no armour, and high speed). The cooperation collapse due to French insist using their own 105, while W German wanted British 105 (i guess).
the downside of this tank is vertical guidance speed is terible. flanking with this tank is very good with the engine power but on hilly map dont expect too much
I prefer the AMX-30 to the Leo 1 purely because it has a 20mm coax. They do the exact same thing on the flanks but the AMX-30 has a good chance of killing helicopters and light vehicles that rush.
AMX-30 Super was a modernisation package offered by a consortium of West German companies in the late 1980. It included a new 850 HP engine with a new transmission that eliminated the previous troublesome one, a modern computarized fire control system, a laser rangefinder, a thermal sight for the gunner, a stabilization system for the armament, a better suspension and increased range. A prototype was made and showed in Saudi Arabia, but it was never purchased. For actual French vehicles players, this make all the difference. Having a stabilizer, a thermal sight and a more nervous engine really helps facing enemy tanks. The two French B2 upgraded AMX-30s don't have the stabilization and it restricts their gameplay to sniping and ambushing. Even flanking is risky because firing on the move is hazardous. The Super remove that problem. It's a pretty decent alternative to the AMX-32 also at 9.3 if you're willing to trade some firepower and minimal amounts of protection for more speed and agility. It's better than the AMX-32 105 which is plagued by being heavier while having the same engine than the basic AMX-30. But like other French MBTs between 8.0 and 9.7, the name of the game is don't get hit and fire first, ask questions later. It's very similar to the Leopard 1s in that matter which isn't surprising since they both came from the same common program after both countries decided to go their separate ways and their own design.
Are people seriously not gonna talk about how Gaijin pulled out the AMX-30 Super at the end of last year, and somehow reintroduce them now, are we just gonna let this scummy tactic go off the hooks ?????
It's because the premium pack wasn't purchased much anymore, so they removed it and put the tank back as a golden eagle premium tank. They did that previously with a lot of tanks. It's not really new.
3:45 LMFAO so happy to knock out a tank, man wish I felt that way every time i killed tanks in WT but after a decade its not that way EVER for me anymore. The BatChat 25T had a auto loader IRL and the AmX M4 and Somua and Amx50 they had a lot of tanks with autoloader.
i have only one thing to say boys. Allons enfants de la Patrie (Arise, children of the Fatherland) Le jour de gloire est arrivé! (Our day of glory has arrived) Contre nous de la tyrannie (Against us the bloody flag of tyranny) L’étendard sanglant est levé (is raised; the bloody flag is raised) L’étendard sanglant est levé (is raised; the bloody flag is raised) Entendez-vous dans les campagnes (Do you hear, in the countryside) Mugir ces féroces soldats? (The roar of those ferocious soldiers?) Ils viennent jusque dans vos bras (They’re coming right into your arms) Égorger nos fils, nos compagnes! (To cut the throats of your sons, your comrades!) Aux armes, citoyens (To arms, citizens!) Formez vos bataillons (Form your battalions) Marchons, marchons! (Let’s march, let’s march) Qu’un sang impur (That their impure blood) Abreuve nos sillons! (Should water our fields)
Gotta Luv the dumb Gaijin tricks that tell ya the vehicle is being taken away and not sold but then after less than a month they throw it back up on the tech tree for GE @holes
the AMX-30 super has a stabilizer , a Laser Rangefinder , a thermal and more Smoke grenade
and a better better engine with 100+ horsepower
The AMX 30 Super was an upgrade package offered by a West German consortium in the 80s. Most of the automotive parts were replaced including a new 850 hp engine and transmission. The second major part of the upgrade was bringing the FCS to an up to date standard, with a stabilizer, new vision devices and a laser rangefinder. The upgrade was mostly aimed at export customers like Saudi Arabia.
it was even called the Super AMX 30 but Gaijin fudged the name as usual. Definitely a translation issue. Which is also why you will never see the AMX Super 30,which is the same project but done by GIAT ( with their own components obv). The name will 100% get fudged during translation and Gaijin probably thinks its the exact same project which it is not (but with the extremely similar same goal and finished product)
Fun fact the AMX-30 Super is the only AMX-30 chassis that doesn’t have the same reverse speed as forward
the AMX-30 super has a stabilizer while the other AMX-30 doesn't
and stronger engine and thermal and sabot
supér*
Premium moment
But you lose the coax 20
And better turret traverse while Turning
French doctrine after WW2 was mainly "Armor is meaningless just dont get hit" so most of their tanks were designed with speed and firepower in mind. This is why most of them have meh armor even Leclerc. Besides, their doctrine also put a lot of pressure on long range combat. AMX-30 heat for example is a special HEAT round that was designed to work with rifled canons, so the case of the round spin to stabilize round while preventing warhead from spinning to not reduce effectivness of heat charge.
Overall most cold war French tanks play like fast in out flank and spank or snipe tanks. You just go to position, sit there avoiding getting hit and fire back at enemies.
To be fair, a lot of early Cold War era tanks had very little armour due to the belief that HEAT rounds or shaped charges would render thick steel armour useless (it did). That was until new armour compositions and ERA/NERA came about tho
@@PanzerPaw I agree most countries designs went towards no armor best armor. Just France took it to the extreme with say AMX-13 series. Lets make smallest, fastest tank with biggest gun we can fit and they bloody did fit 105mm on it.
Where most countries went "Yeah maybe we should put at least some armor just in case" France went "Pfff hold my wine because I gonna go fast" this is why Lorraine 40t is a thing simillar to Batchat 25t.
@@kryperdev to be fair the AMX 13 was meant to flank in gaps left by M26s and later M47s units, so speed was a given
also AMX-30 is 720hp/ 36.0T. While the super is 850hp/ 36.5T
The main difference is the Stabilizer, big deciding factor for buying if you're debating BRs for a premium value. The 8.0 is SUPER wobbly.
oh man and the B2 is WORSE since you're competing almos exclusively against things that are stabilized
dart and the stabilizer could be the reason its at a much higher BR? its important to note that after the jumbo at 5.7, the next french vehicle with a stabilizer are the vehicles after 9.0. its the reason i tend to visit my japanese lineup at 8.3. the type 74 c and stb 2 have sabot, stabs and a modifiable suspension which relieves me of the stress of using the amx 30s at 8.7.
Always was and will be a problem
For the super the camera zooms out more than for the normal AMX-30. It's the only difference I could spot
Beside being the super version for ppl that wants to pay
Given both AMX-30 and Leopard 1 was born from more or less cooperation between West Germany and France, so some feature of both would be there (basically little to no armour, and high speed). The cooperation collapse due to French insist using their own 105, while W German wanted British 105 (i guess).
the downside of this tank is vertical guidance speed is terible. flanking with this tank is very good with the engine power but on hilly map dont expect too much
I prefer the AMX-30 to the Leo 1 purely because it has a 20mm coax. They do the exact same thing on the flanks but the AMX-30 has a good chance of killing helicopters and light vehicles that rush.
AMX-30 Super was a modernisation package offered by a consortium of West German companies in the late 1980. It included a new 850 HP engine with a new transmission that eliminated the previous troublesome one, a modern computarized fire control system, a laser rangefinder, a thermal sight for the gunner, a stabilization system for the armament, a better suspension and increased range. A prototype was made and showed in Saudi Arabia, but it was never purchased.
For actual French vehicles players, this make all the difference. Having a stabilizer, a thermal sight and a more nervous engine really helps facing enemy tanks. The two French B2 upgraded AMX-30s don't have the stabilization and it restricts their gameplay to sniping and ambushing. Even flanking is risky because firing on the move is hazardous. The Super remove that problem. It's a pretty decent alternative to the AMX-32 also at 9.3 if you're willing to trade some firepower and minimal amounts of protection for more speed and agility. It's better than the AMX-32 105 which is plagued by being heavier while having the same engine than the basic AMX-30.
But like other French MBTs between 8.0 and 9.7, the name of the game is don't get hit and fire first, ask questions later. It's very similar to the Leopard 1s in that matter which isn't surprising since they both came from the same common program after both countries decided to go their separate ways and their own design.
given they stem from the same program with the same requirements it's a given they would end up looking similar
Play more french tanks, b1 bis and char 2c are a solid choice for 2.3.
calling a AMX-30 a French leopard 1... you are actually closer than you may be aware.
The difference is ones super and ones not
Panzer Paw you should try out the super Chieftain the Khalid
Are people seriously not gonna talk about how Gaijin pulled out the AMX-30 Super at the end of last year, and somehow reintroduce them now, are we just gonna let this scummy tactic go off the hooks ?????
It's because the premium pack wasn't purchased much anymore, so they removed it and put the tank back as a golden eagle premium tank. They did that previously with a lot of tanks. It's not really new.
Love your videos never stop and it would be fun to see you play the strv74❤❤
Leo and amx 30 was the same program. So, they are vert similar yes 👍🏻
they have 2 different types of 7.62 mm Machine Guns i'm not sure if that makes a difference
I know this is isn't about the video, but you know about the Lobster War between France and Brazil?
Yes! I gotta thank BlueJay for that tho. He did a great video on it.
normal amx30 has a coaxial 20mm and super doesnt
Do a biggest to smallest caliber in the whole game (including naval)
I'm surprised I found this video so early, nice lol
3:45 LMFAO so happy to knock out a tank, man wish I felt that way every time i killed tanks in WT but after a decade its not that way EVER for me anymore. The BatChat 25T had a auto loader IRL and the AmX M4 and Somua and Amx50 they had a lot of tanks with autoloader.
Turret rotation time is 0.2 seconds faster
Too bad you can't research rank 8 with it, but overall I really enjoy this guy
Ummm. I like the camo on the Narval? Other than that I despise the AMX-30 in any form.
Didn’t they remove this from the store???
supers stabalised and has more smoke
i have only one thing to say boys.
Allons enfants de la Patrie
(Arise, children of the Fatherland)
Le jour de gloire est arrivé!
(Our day of glory has arrived)
Contre nous de la tyrannie
(Against us the bloody flag of tyranny)
L’étendard sanglant est levé
(is raised; the bloody flag is raised)
L’étendard sanglant est levé
(is raised; the bloody flag is raised)
Entendez-vous dans les campagnes
(Do you hear, in the countryside)
Mugir ces féroces soldats?
(The roar of those ferocious soldiers?)
Ils viennent jusque dans vos bras
(They’re coming right into your arms)
Égorger nos fils, nos compagnes!
(To cut the throats of your sons, your comrades!)
Aux armes, citoyens
(To arms, citizens!)
Formez vos bataillons
(Form your battalions)
Marchons, marchons!
(Let’s march, let’s march)
Qu’un sang impur
(That their impure blood)
Abreuve nos sillons!
(Should water our fields)
Amx30 super has a 1 second faster reload speed
When did the AMX-30 Super even get removed from purchase again? (I've owned it for a while, never noticed it disappeared).
removed it for new year. literally just disappeared for a month a came back with the milk (from the player base that expected it to actually go away)
Is it normal for a USA main to get 80 reach points per kill at rank 3?
"it's really really bad" British detected
Amx 30 super is the best premium tank in WT by FAR, high diff with leopard.
Nice Video
Now that they put that tank as buyable with GE, im really interested with what tank they will replace it.
You should try Simulator battles. They arę nice
Gotta Luv the dumb Gaijin tricks that tell ya the vehicle is being taken away and not sold but then after less than a month they throw it back up on the tech tree for GE @holes
i seen weirder planes 11:43
love this tank defenetly better then all the leo 1 s
Already you played with OF-40 MTCA? It's also better than Leopard 1 family
Bro really is thinks it has a Long barrel look at object 120
Franch Bias for sure
Day 1 Play Steel of Titans a Roblox game
Crazy im this early
999th like lol
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