Should EarthBound be Remade?
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The Jolly Flying Man - EarthBound
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The Heroes Return (Part 2) - EarthBound
Dragon Roost Island - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
Buy Somethin’ Will Ya! - EarthBound
Paula’s Theme - EarthBound
Snowman - EarthBound
Choose a File - EarthBound
Summers, Eternal Tourist Trap - EarthBound
Going Alone - Mother 3
Dusty Dunes Desert - EarthBound
Wood Man’s Stage - Megaman 2
Wood Man’s Stage - Megaman 2: The Wily Wars
Monkey’s Delivery Service - Mother 3
Overworld - The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening
Overworld - The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening (Switch)
Color Dungeon - The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening (Switch)
Sword Search on Koholint Island - The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening (Switch)
Beneath the Mask - Persona 5
Mother Earth - EarthBound Beginnings
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I do think a Mother 1 remake makes the most sense. The other 2 are still great to this day, but the original needs the most tuning up
A touch up with sprinting and animation, mixed with balancing (and maybe a more compelling storyline) would make the game great! Although, making the game easier would make the game feel shorter.
I still loved mother 1, but I agree for sure
So you might want to look at a fan game called Mother Encore, which is a remake of Mother 1.
Honestly a port of both games to Mother 3's engine or something similar would be great. That said, even a romhack of Earthbound that remakes Mother 1 would be all that is needed I feel
@@willbrgamer5137 where would I find this?
i personally love the idea of a remake of the orignial mother game, i never really thought about it until this video
Mother Encore
I think they should remake Earthbound Beginnings first. I feel like theres more potential in that game that needs to be tapped into.
Makes sense to remake mother 1 for nintens adventure
I mean we already got a full translation of the game(one that already existed, but an unreleased one, and an improved version like Star Fox 2)
Well, fans are making a remake of original Mother, it's called Mother Encore.
Excuse me for saying this but, I believe that MOTHER 2 needs a remake a little more than 1, but still a MOTHER 1 remake is not a bad idea
@@ButterflyBlossom6415 I recommend Eastward, Boot Hill Heroes and Bounties. They are Earthbound inspired.
If you like games on Steam there is Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass and Weirdlands, which also have a Earthbound/Mother 3 feel.
on the artstyle: I've always thought it would be cool if an Earthbound had Octopath's 3D sprite thing going on, but with the Peanuts artstyle, since it was inspired by peanuts
That could work. Personally I'd opt for a 3D clay style like the concept art. Both would be extremely difficult to make work, but I think the clay style would be more rewarding.
Dude fuck octopath 3D
(This post was made by the Charming Limited 3D of Pokémon B/W gang)
Just keep it all 2d, enough with the pseudo-3d stuff.
@@Cool-Vest_Leo something like the link's awakening remake on switch art style would be great
@@ihaveakirbyobessesion2617 It could work, but I feel like it could be MORE stylized. I think the clay look supports the darker and weirder undertones of the game more than a plastic-y toy one.
a clay art style would be amazing maybe with different costumes
Yes!!! I was about to say the exact same thing! That style would capture the essence of the mother series perfectly
I personally think they should fix the collision on sloped walls and diagonal movement *_so they're not so insanely sticky_* and leave everything else the same.
Great point!
The collision was fixed in the gba version
@@nateoscar2950 There's a GBA version?
Edit: That isn't Mother 3 I mean.
@@Solesteam Yes but it was exclusive to Japan. It was released as Mother 1+2. There are fan translations for both games on the rom.
@@Solesteam I recommend Eastward, Boot Hill Heroes and Bounties. They are Earthbound inspired.
If you like games on Steam there is Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass and Weirdlands, which also have a Earthbound/Mother 3 feel.
Bestiary’s are some of my favorite things in games. It’s just neat to catalogue all the enemies you encounter.
7:05 purist here, I'd say making an accurate CRT filter that won't consume much GPU would be much closer to the intention they were looking for. A lot of the battle backgrounds have interlaced pixels that give it the illusion of transparency while a filter like one of those would probably butcher them. But you got a point!
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_The Real Question here is:_ *Should the WHOLE Mother Trilogy get a Remake within a Collection?*
1:20 a dedicated condiments inventory is an interesting idea. the idea i like most is having food with condiments restore some PP instead of extra HP. thats not my idea, some hack or remake had it, but i don't remember which
Mother 2 Deluxe?
Totally agree. I hate when there are remakes or re-release that changes a lot of thing so that there is almost always never a "definitive version" because each one has its own strengths and weaknesses. They can be a good experience for old fans but it's frustrating when playing a game for the first time to know that you're might be missing something. Even the so called "Quality of Life" changes can be controversial and can radically change the experience. Remakes works when they are just 1:1 adaptation that update graphics or controls or when they are complete reimagination of the original so that they are completely different experience that makes playing both worth. But most of the time they are in an awkward position inbetween that make them less accessible, especially if the original can be easily emulated or is available on modern platforms. As a fan I'd like to see an earthbound remake, but thinking about it, chances are that most probably it would be underwhelming
I agree, but very contraversal opinion just look at how much hate bdsp got for almost being 1:1
I think this is why the Pixel Remasters of the FF games aren't the best versions to play, because they intentionally left out content that was available in previous versions. Graphics aside, if you play the PSP versions of FF1, FF2 and FF4, for example, you can experience everything in one playthrough. Those are the most comprehensive versions of those games, that contain every iterative improvement and content addition since their original releases, plus stuff that was added to those versions (FF1 has Labyrinth of Time, FF2 has Arcane Labyrinth, and FF4 has its sequels bundled in one). In order for a version to be definitive in my eyes, it has to be the most comprehensive version of the game. I can live with the graphics not being upgraded, and will consider that a missed opportunity, but if it doesn't have all the content from prior versions, then it's not definitive, since you'll still have a reason to play them at that point.
@@shinyrayquaza9 Yeah, kinda true, haven't played bdsp so I can't talk from experience, but I know it was not well received. To be fair, pokemon is a special case. Pokemon is one of the few games where remakes have high potential and could not just be nostalgia-bait cash grabs, since pokemon games have high replayability and there are many additions in each gen, like different mechanics, gimmicks, features and expanded pokedex. Also pokemon games have a big social aspect in them, so re-releasing them means you have access to internet connection (except frlg of course) and compatibility with new games. So releasing a 1:1 remake in this case is not the same as in other game. Yes you get new graphics and (limited) connectivity but not everything else.
Expectation plays also a big part. So far we have always had full remakes that gave us a lot of new content that were more on the "new experience" kind, and because of that many had high hopes on the DP remakes, games that are notorious in the community of being held back by various problems (some of them fixed in platinum). Instead (as far as I know) we got the same game with a few new features but that carries many of the problems of the original and have new one. That does not mean that all past remakes were not controversial. Many, for example, consider Emerald to be better than ORAS. But as ORAS were "different enough" games, it made it worth it to play them even if they aren't the "definitive edition". The same thing can't be said when comparing Platinum and BDSP.
I've also heard that bdsp was controversial for other reasons, like it was buggy and GTS and Pokemon Home arrived late, so there is also a technical aspect.
Other games, instead, suffer less problems from 1:1 remakes. For example a story focused RPG with already solid gameplay mechanics can just be remade with with new graphics, if someone disliked the new coat of paint could just play the original. In the case of pokemon, to be fair we don't really need any new remakes, because the mechanics are fundamentally the same since gen 4 (generational gimmicks aside), and if there is no intention to add an extended dex and new features, it's better to just release the old games virtual console-style with online functionality and added compatibility with Home.
Playing as Luigi would truly perfect the game, maybe they could add Dedede as well
Crossing my fingers for Shadow!
Disclaimer: Earthbound is my all time favorite game, and I've played it over a dozen times. I'm all for making significant changes because the original game still exists. I think you nailed most of the things they need to change, such as removing the tedious things like buying one item at a time and basic item management. Also:
+I probably would have played this game twice as much if not for the dumbass monkey cave section. Every time I think about playing it again, part of me thinks "Hell yeah- I love that game!" but then remembers, "Ughhh, but you're going to have to play through that tedious money cave section." Before the cave section, I'm dreading it, and when it's finally behind me I'm so glad I can get back to enjoying my favorite section. It would be SO much better if you could cut that whole thing. Make it another boss battle, or a puzzle, or a new place I have to go to and fight a new enemy to earn the "King Banana" so I only have to give the cave monkey's ONE damn thing!
+This will be controversial, but I'd honestly love to play a version of the game where the combat is represented better visually. You can still work in the same backgrounds and music/sound effects, but it would make the combat so much more engaging if we could actually see our characters, enemies, and the attacks ala Super Mario RPG or For the King. I get why people would think that's a bridge too far, but AGAIN, the original game still exists. If you want to play it, go play it. I would love a modern version.
I also think the "don't remake good games, remake bad ones!" argument makes much more sense for film than video games. Video games have improved so much in the last 30 decades that the possibilities to make classics look and feel better, not to mention accessible to a new generation seems well worth the risk of offending purists.
I think the argument can work just a well for games as films. That doesn’t mean don’t make new games, just that if you’re going to remake something it might as well be something that could benefit from a remake.
@@MonkeyNess I recommend Eastward, Boot Hill Heroes and Bounties. They are Earthbound inspired.
If you like games on Steam there is Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass and Weirdlands, which also have a Earthbound/Mother 3 feel.
The only correct way to remake this is in a claymation style.
I absolutely love how much focus you put on intention when it comes to designing games, or any other form of media and art.
There are so many minute decisions and elements that make a game what it is; most of which completely go unnoticed by most players. But they can FEEL it. And it's absolutely critical that those small details are preserved and cared for. You put it best yourself, "You're not playing EarthBound, you're playing the EarthBound Remake."
This video was stellar, and had me grinning ear to ear the more you mentioned the details that I had honestly forgotten about over time. Like Frank being able to heal you!!!! I had no idea he could do that!!! Lmao
Have a wonderful day man. Keep on keepin' on!!! =D
Wow, BeeSquared I haven't seen you on the platform in a while! I was a very Avid viewer, hope you are doing great rn! (and in all honesty you made me realize just how much I loved the mother series lmao)
The reason why they atill had 8 direction in link's awakening remake is because some positions in between those directions can ruin some puzzles and dungeons, and make fast skips through the dungeons. However, you can be in those in between direction when you jump and land so long as you don't move again on the ground. So those skips are still possible. I've used them a few times.
And another reason to remake games is to keep the series alive. It's the smallest reason to make a game from a business perspective, but a big one for fans. They want to keep the love for the game alive, and pull in new people.
Was trying to look at why to do a remake from an artistic perspective with this video.
Gotta give you props, this is an excellent discussion that looks at every aspect in depth from a variety of angles without feeling padded. A lot of these types of videos don't approach this nearly as well as you did, well done!
Thank you so much!
If any of the Mother games got remade, one thing I would change is to have whatever weapon/armor you equip show up on the characters’ overworld sprites. It’s pretty inconsequential at the end of the day, but I just think it would be cool
Mother 1 would benefit the most from a remake, I've beaten Earthboubd and Mother 3 multiple times and I still cant beat Mother 1
Try the GBA translation and equip the easy ring. Makes the game very accessible.
Same here buddy.
Yes please!
@@ButterflyBlossom6415 I recommend Boot Hill Heroes and Eastward as Earthbound successors.
How far have you gotten? The game is much easier if you use all of your tools and do some sections in a specific order.
I feel like Mother would be better for a remake over Mother 2. Mother hasn't aged extremely well (even for a Famicom RPG). Modernizing Mother to a standard like Mother 3 with scrolling HP and better balancing during the ending segments (Looking at Mt. Holy Loly specifically.)
I disagree, MOTHER 2 has glitches, the bosses are easy, I agree that MOTHER 1 needs more love, but MOTHER 1 was a difficult video game and didn't have many glitches compared to the sequel, but I would love to see both as a remake and call them MOTHER 1 and 2 instead of "EarthBound" and so they could bring MOTHER 3 around the world
@BibleGirl6415 I disagree with the notion that Mother 2s bosses are completely easy.
- Frank, the Onett Police, and the Titanic Ant are known for being very difficult fights due to you not being that strong in the early game.
- The Mondo Mole hits rather hard, so Paula will probably end up dying during the fight. (If you decide not to use the paralysis exploit)
- The way up to the Trillionage Sprout can SUCK if you keep getting Mushroomized, and the fight with the Sprout can be brutal if he gets his Diamond stare off.
- the department store is a huge difficulty spike because of how hard the enemies hit you, and the Mook can be rough as well.
- the Clumsy Robot hits VERY hard some of the time.
- The sewers underneath Fourside have pretty tough enemies as well as the boss hitting rather hard at times due to its high crit rate.
- the Kraken can seriously mess you up due it's fire and tornado attacks dealing very high damage, as well as the Thunder attacks.
- The Starman DX can be annoying.
- The Diamond Dog needs no introduction I'm sure
- Magicant and Ness's Nightmare is still very hard, even with the earth pendant.
@@n1ktend091 Well, I found MOTHER 2 a less difficult game than the third, because MOTHER 3 I died many times in each boss, sometimes MOTHER 2 has bosses that have their difficulty, and yes, you may be right, especially those freaking mushrooms, I died a few times in that, even so I don't agree very much with Frank's and the Kraken's has been very easy for me, but above all MOTHER 2 has more glitches than 1 and 3, which is something that is true, but in my opinion both MOTHER 1 and 2 needs Remakes
Hyped for all these fan-games that appeared in like the past 4 years
I WOULD LOVE A REMAKE!
Sameee
I think they should remake all three and release it as a bundle.
7:48 Add me to that list because I just learned about that now. Man that would have been so useful to know about back during my first playthrough.
You make a really good point regarding the controls of a remake when trying to translate a 2D game to 3D. I wouldn't be able to calculate just how much time I have already spent fine-tuning the movement and control/animation response in Earthbound Dimensions so that it can feel reasonably not stiff. It sounds simple when you think it's just movement through the world, but it really isn't... a lot of careful thought and polishment work is needed when tackling something like this.
Great video and I love all of the points you brought up. The first Mother definitely needs a remake.
the clay renders are so iconic, and very uniquely tied to the mother series. not to be that kid, but that should definitely be the remake's art style especially since nintendo doesn't seem too keen on pixel remakes of, well, anything.
I'd love a hyper realistic remake in like Unreal Engine to really make us feel the terror and experience the story to the max but don't change much else, maybe refresh the sounds and music but essentially keep them the same.
Mother Encore is the best Mother Remake I’ve seen this far. It looks great so far
I want an earthbound remake just for smoother versions of the battle backgrounds. Literally the only change I love wacky shapes and colors so much
Your so underrated dude I hope you get more subscribers in the future also is it me or are you just becoming a reviewer your one of the smartest mother fans
my ideal would be a remake of the entire trilogy in the same claymation diorama style as the remake of link's awakening. I seriously DREAM about this
I think the Link‘s Awakening artstyle would be perfect. And Mother 1 would make more sense as a remake I guess
Yeah honestly what you said about Earthbound Beginnings being the most likely to be remade makes a lot of sense. In fact honestly Earthbound might be the least likely of the series to be remade, since if they were to actually localize Mother 3 (gasp!) part of me feels like they would remake it for that (then again they did localize Beginnings when it was like 25 years old)
I like where youre headed with this video
5:15 It's the closest thing to literally selling your soul you can get.
You give a bit of your lifespan for either money or enjoyment in return.
as someone whos played since 95'
1. Enemies should have counterplay to surprising them giving you opportunities to surprise them
2. Day/Night cycle for added imersion, events and enemy spawns
3. Jeffs support Items buffed and stored like Dusters tools, bottle rocket rebalancing
4. Changes to encounter system/formation. being able to go back2back,triangle formation on the overworld.
-PINCER attacks should be a thing for you and the enemy
5. ability to run
6. Tone down Enemy opening attack redswirl + sound like they did in mother 3- to me it was my first jumpscare
7. change dusty dunes as is I never find a reason to venture into the desert, i think the road should curve up and then down . the early part of scarba is kinda short, i would have moved the monkey hole further into the desert.
8. i would just clean up sprites or do a nice simple 3d to have it match the clay models.
9. Poo, mainly the fact that you get him so late and he is missing through late scarba and 90% of deep darkness
10. removal of the 1/128 drop items and instead they should be end game side quests.
Thank for you the tip on frank healing. Didn’t know that and I’ve played the game several times over multiple years
I would just love it if they gave us a whole trilogy of the series remade in a Peanuts like way. That is what Itoi was trying to base the art style off of. I know that would be a lot of work though, but if we could just see that happen for one of the games.
Just finished this game. My new obsession. Loved it. I would play a new one but not necessary. It’s perfect
2:35 I agree! Not sure why that's a thing in older games. I recall sitting on Paper Mario 64's end screen for ages expecting it to reboot or something. It also sucked because at the time I kind of fluked the final boss and couldn't re-beat him and hence missed out on some post-final boss dialog.
Similar issue where saving soft-locks in EB. Never got why they did that.
I'm gonna bat to changing Earthbound's style.
I feel like, If we're doing a remake, One remake all 3 in one big bundle called the Earthbound Trilogy.
Earthbound Beginnings, Earthbound Boogaloo, and Earthbound Beyond (mother 3) in one package. But the direction I want to see the art direction taken in is that of Rankin Bass Christmas Specials.
I say that because a lot of the promotional material surrounding mother has always been around claymation models of the characters reminiscent of Animagic. It's very possible that Iwata grew up with that studio's work considering that all of the rankin bass christmas specials were animated in japan by a japanese studio.
This, to me at least would be the best way to translate from pixels to 3D models, Keep the mother series' destinct style by catering to the style of the claymation like marketing and also preserve and express the themes of innocence and growing up that the entire series is all about.
I noticed a few of the ideas you had are actually a thing you can hack into the game. I dabble in a little EB hacking, and there's a library full of patches for stuff like easy deaths, and buying items in bulk. Although some of them are impossible like seperate death window pallettes.
I would love to see the game remade in a Link's awakening style remake, keeping its 2d like feel. However I would like to see the protagonists in the battle field, some new trippy 3d backgrounds and a selfie option in the overworld where the camera man can give you a camera towards the beginning where you can take pictures on your journey like most nintendo games nowadays. All the changes in this video are cool too.
9:14 They can even give it a flashier name than New Game Plus
Perhaps Porky/Gygas' revenge?
Yes, in the style of Brilliant Diamond but actually finished. I love the 3D Chibi look of it. Earthbound was a similar style to the first few generations of Pokemon, so it would be a good fit, in my opinion.
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Nintendo should remake all 3 Mother games and release it as a trilogy pack.
I know this is a video about what to fix in a remake but a connection I made was the fact I’m making an Earthbound inspired rpg and what I’ve been doing is fixing whatever was bad, so I guess these are some good ideas on what to fix.
Mother 1 needs it the most
I just loved this game so much that I wished the creator would've continued to make more games
Personally, I think that the protagonists need more ‘character moments.’ Outside of their introductory cutscenes, the characters barely say anything or interact with each other, and I think that’s a weakness of the original game.
I'd love that. The few they have are really good, but are so few and far between.
8:11 Perhaps a playable version of how she ended up there...
"Why trying to fix something that is not broken?"
That would be so cool that if you beat the game but you don’t want the quirkiness to end then you do what you well said with the change of the chosen four of the ones in mother 1 and also new enemies for the hard mode
Since the final weapons aren't super necessary I think the grind is worth it. I just kept my save file with all the ultimates and I play through it not really worrying about it
They also could go a direction in the way of the SaGa remasters, where they leave the game mostly unchanged but add a few changes that would make it more definitive, like changing up the localization, or adding some unused content that was in development but was cut. (Although admittedly, Earthbound wasn't nearly as unfinished as say, the original SaGa Frontier, but it's a thought)
Another MonkeyNess banger. A couple of things to comment on since you went through a lot here:
- I feel vindicated knowing someone else holds the same position on the tendency of critically/popularly acclaimed games being remade over games that could actually benefit from it. Watching everyone drool over RE4R this year is something I met with mostly confusion since it's not the original trilogy that 'needed' the modernization.
- the clay model/papier-mâché aesthetic is definitely my preference if such a remake of any of the MOTHER titles were to happen, it's so very iconic to the series that I can't imagine any other creative decision working nearly as well. I recall some yarn aesthetic for a supposed remake of Earthbound on Gamecube but I don't remember if that was a hoax or not.
- if Paula did ever have a solo part I feel like it would make the most sense to have it after she gets kidnapped by the Mook in the Fourside mall; there's some implied development of Mr. Monotoli's character where he earns her trust that I don't think has ever been explored in the supplementary material (admittedly I am not as familiar with the manga/4komas and I still need to read the novel since Nyasu translated it).
- shoutout to using the Enix guidebook artwork for the Venus kissing joke, that seriously needs more attention and appreciation (maybe worth a video overview like with the Earthbound's Players Guide?). Although it's kinda weird thinking about that Venus canonically posed in the nude for a magazine in that context.
Honestly, I'm not really for a remake since a port would do as much justice for the game without possibly compromising its original vision. But I'm not against the same for the original MOTHER, probably why I'm so excited for MOTHER: Encore.
I would like to see Earthbound in the same treatment as Super Mario RPG coming to Switch.
Samee
You make very valid points
I think what we need from every Mother game is
1 : Remake
2 : Remaster
3 : Translated version and launch for Switch
I don’t know why but I want earthbound in mother 1 nes style
Demakes are cool
@@videorelaxant2780 I recommend Boot Hill Heroes and Bounties. They are Earthbound inspired.
creator of the visual 3d remake here, I wanted to make an earthbound but with the little annoying quirks cut out and modernized. Someday I will continue that journey ;)
Thanks for commenting! Can't wait to see it when you can get back to it :)
I hope they make EarthBound/Mother 2 Remake would be really cool cuz I want to play EarthBound for real
THEY FINALLY MADE ONE
Imagine.
I’ve never played Mother 1 but that title screen shatters my heart every time I hear it.
I honestly think that an EarthBound remake in the style of the Link's Awakening one it would be successful. Personally I wish it would have a more clay animation-like look.
I was today years old when I learned Frank can heal you. Mind blown.
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Would be interesting to see 😊
great video essay
how i would do the ultimate weapons is to have a beefed up enemy hold them that never changes places but is out of the way so you dont accidently fight them, this way you dont have to grind for it unless you are too low a level but you still have to work for it.
earthbound should be remade like the mario rpg remake
like that game also never saw a release outside the states and japan before and the artstyle would be very fitting
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Everything you said about earthbound is everything I want in it
I used to do EarthBound in the mid 1990's as a video gamer. If they remake EarthBound, I would like to do it again, this time as an actor. I can play Prince Poo, the fourth main character in the game who helps Ness defeat the remaining monsters to finish recording that song on his sound stone. What would you think about that role?
If it helps finally get mother 3 a proper state side release I say go for it.
Monkeyness I just want to say I absolutely adore your voice.
Thank you :)
as long as they put love into the remake, i hope they make one
I think the mario rpg remake shows how a sprite based game can be extremely faithfully translated, which I think nintendo should do for earthbound.
"Unless you're playing MGS"
Well I was gonna say Xenosaga, but same vibe.
It would be awesome if you could customise the appearance of your chose four.
Something huge you overlook is how a remake gets made. Bad games aren't remade because if you make them good, then it isn't the same. Good games get remakes to fix up the bad but also to go beyond and make good better. When a game is remade, the original shouldn't be a shame, and in fact, the remake should doubles down on the original's ideas. That's makes a remake.
Also instead of a pixel smoothing, give us a good crt effect. Pixel smoothing and a crt don't look alike, I would know I own a crt.
Yeah, I actually acknowledge that point about remaking bad games in the video...I disagree that remaking a game is about "making it the same," they should be about improving on the original, and attempting to deliver the experience the original did or attempted to. If you're going to remake it exactly the same, why even remake it?
первая часть MOTHER очень крутая в визуальном плане в битвах вижу гориллу она будто настоящая супер нарисовано все а вот снаружи когда бегаешь по карте вот там разработчики экономили как могли потому что вся память для визуальной части уходила на спрайты врагов в битве + там офигенная музыка которая тоже кушает память изза чего приходится экономить и один тайл сплошного цвета может использоваться в многих местах
A Mother 1 remake would be really great. Finally, Teddy would be in his true in-game glory.
Anyone who plays on bilinear filtering deserves their rights of using technological devices to be taken away. Like sorry but all bilinear filtering does is juggle up the colors until they look like putrid. ALSO even if the pixel look is not the intended target, the bilinear filtering was also not the intended target. There are definitely much better options, maybe CRT filters.
I won't accept anything unless Itoi gives it his blessing
I feel as if Earthbound has already told its story, and it's pretty widely available and beloved despite any inconveniences, so an official remake doesn't exactly seem likely to me. Fan remakes are great though and are definetly something we should have, even if just for quality of life.
Mother 3 could use a remake, but the game is already stunning. I think it deserves one because the game is beautiful and more people need to see it, which could also be accomplished by translating the game officially.
(But Nintendo ain't gonna let that happen anytime soon..)
If anything, Mother 1 is the game most needing of a remake. That game is filled with flaws and confusion to the point of turning players off to the game, and it's story deserves to be told. I don't think it's likely beyond fan projects, though.
I fully disagree. I've already said my opinion in other comments but there is such a sharp awful transition from seeing Ness in Smash Bros (being captivated by his simple cute 3D character design), and then discovering his game and its like.
"what?"
The games have aged badly (purely artistic decisions, not related to technology) and there is a reason why they are niche and not celebrated by pop culture, let alone kids
You say EB2 has already told uts story very well. And sure, it has.
This story isn't the only one Ness needs to be attached to.
Speaking personally, I would have loved to have seen a Ness-only 3D platformer on Gamecube, maybe with Lucas as a player 2.
Onett is %100000 more charming and cute in Smash then it ever was in the original SNES release. I think a 3D adventure could reinvigorate how mysterious and charmingly odd that location was
Anyway sorry, i just get frsutrated when people don't see obvious holes in the videogame market. These games were always an unmarketable mess to American audiences and it doesn't have to stay that way
The Mother rpgs are for adult players. It tells a nuanced story kids would tolerate at best, but not outright adore. They are very VERY poor introduction to Ness as a potential mascot for Nintendo (which he absolutley should be)
@@NeverlandsPhantom I recommend Eastward, Boot Hill Heroes and Bounties. They are Earthbound inspired.
If you like games on Steam there is Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass and Weirdlands, which also have a Earthbound/Mother 3 feel.
Earthbound would just be such a visceral experience with graphical enhancements, atmospheric textures, and updated pieces of music it’s such a cool game and I think bringing that to a new generation in a more digestible way would be dope keep the mechanics fairly true to the original the story telling and all that as well but just making it look and sound better with more detail due to modern advancements cut scenes and shit
But… what about a dash button
Sure!
I Want Them To Remake Earthbound So Bad In The Style They Remade Super Mario RPG! 🙏
Only if it has a similar aesthetic as Link’s Awakening
There’s a lot of charm in sprite art that just can’t be remade in 3D. Like how Samus Returns looks great but lost that charm. As would Super Metroid if they remake it.
The GameBoy was limited but still had a lot of charm in Link’e Awakening. That same charm was recaptured in 3D by making them look like toys. Made their body proportions translate from 2D to 3D perfectly.
That kind of aesthetic would lend itself to Earthbound in a great way. Aesthetics are super important to me with remakes like this.
I was about to post this when you brought up the clay look for the art style. And you made my exact example.
I would just prefer a remake’s visual overhaul wasn’t based in a previous-existing game’s art style. Don’t want it to be “EarthBound but like Link’s Awakening,” want it to be its own thing, even if that’s the clay models’ style.
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i wanna see a whole series remaster tbh in the 2d hd style that the octopath traveler games got. that would be nice
I think you missed the entire joke/point of Escargot Express. Despite the slowness implied by the name, they arrive really quickly. Likewise, despite the speediness implied by Mach Pizza's name, they take forever to arrive.
I get it. Still think they could arrive faster.
I've been thinking of a Mother 1 remake for years now, and thus Ive come to the conclusion that its not a game you yave to overhaul in irder to make it a better version of itself: Make the battles have some sort of interactivity like in Mother 3 or the little we've seen if Oddity, create a story segment in the train that, amongst other things, could lead you directly to Youngtown as it was easy to miss it. Making it so you could play with all 4 team members before the story beat where Teddy is out, maybe when collecting all the melodies before the nuke scene or when doing side adventures. The spaceship where Gygas arrives in could be a fully fleshed dungeon, too. Along many other changes to the inventory and such.
Other aspect of the game I adore is that you have plenty of freedom as to how you want to explore the world, assuming you have the skill to overcome harder challenges, like how you could recruit Ana before Lloyd or skip on Teddy for quite some time. Id love if you were given the option to play solo Ninten, just to lean a little more on that freedom of the original, of course it'll make the game harder but its the player's choice. Furthermore, adding Pippi as a 5th member in a Super-Ultra-Maniac hard mode or as a direct replacement of one of the 3 recruits in the party would be a great NewGame+ reward. Also, actual postgame. That final scene with Ninten's Dad calling out for him has been forever ingrained in my mind ever since I played the game, and we need some postgame that focuses on that (Where Pippi can be selected like in the previous example).
As for the artstyle, I know a lot of people want the clay model look, similar to the models used in promotion, the Link's Awakening remake or the hundred of mock-ups online. While it'll definitely be cute and preserve part of the charm of 8-bit sprites, I cant help but think its just not what this series needs. An Octopath derivative style would be great, perhaps mixing it with a bit of Golden Sun: I think the world the game presents, that of a transitional America from rural to urban scenary, filled with adventurous and untouched landscapes like swamps, deserts and mountains, plus the alien technology, and the whole 50-60s aura would greatly benefit from having an artstyle that could bring as much detail as possible.
ALSO also, another key component of a possible remake is character interactions amongst the party: Have Ninten and Lloyd look around and calling each other out to see something or someone when Idle, whenever you finish a tough battle, the characters pat each others on the back or if someone fainted all of the gather around and do something comical while trying to help. Make the ghost figures that follow you after react to their world too, like freaking when there are enemies or shielding the remaining members from them, or make it so they can focus on other stuff, like imagine youre in the Mall when Ninten is knocked out, his ghost follows you everywhere, but when youre inside the Mall Ninten would stop to window-shop or admire a waterfont, to try and play with the exhibition SNES, or replacing mannequins on clothes he likes, etc.
Make it so when you reach a hotel or a campfire you can gather around and talk with the other characters to see theur perspective on your adventure, have it so theur favorite food heals more to that respective character, when you're running in a circle after a while they all extend their arms like a plane, do raspberries and move around the map like that, just anything that makes the main cast feel alive, like children going in this adventure, like friends enjoying themselves and each other when interacting with the world for the first time. Make the player invested in the main cast through small interactions, perhaps even with a dialogue tree for Ninten when given the chance, or giving you the option to name your group like a minor league baseball team. I believe THIS would be THE main reason to remake the entire series, and it goes hand in hand with the artstyle and the story changes. Remember that all these small, vulnerable moments, make the hard hitting beats impact much harder.
I would love to see Nintendo really revive this IP and allow third party, Indy companies work on Earthbound.
Itoi said it himself in an interview that he would like to see others pick it up and work on it.
yeah i saw some of cybershell personality on that script
Companies remake positively received games because they know they'll sell well. Remaking poorly received games would make most consumers not want to buy them because they didn't like the original or heard the original was bad.
It’s like the old saying “if you love it, let it be (or maybe it’s “set it free” but anyway...) in this case it’s one of the hardest things a fan can do but it always seems best to just enjoy what you have (fans will always be “chasing the dragon” trying to recapture that first time they fell in love with a game) but lately the remakes have been really good! Though like you said sometimes the remakes become the definitive version, overshadowing the original anyway in conclusion if you love it don’t remake it!
Just because you love something doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't change it. Earthbound is my all time favorite game, but I LOATHE the money cave section and the inventory, shop and save mechanics were outdated even at the time of release. If the love of your life has a drinking problem, you should absolutely encourage them to change. I also don't see a problem with a remake becoming the definitive versions. It's not like the originals stop existing for game historians to go back and experience.
@@GrapplingIgnorance I recommend Eastward, Boot Hill Heroes and Bounties. They are Earthbound inspired.
If you like games on Steam there is Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass and Weirdlands, which also have a Earthbound/Mother 3 feel.
Officially I don't know how I'd feel
Fanmade though sign me up mother squared can't come out soon enough