This Briggs Engine Simply Won't Stop Running
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Thanks for watching. I found this mower in the old part of town, and it turns out it was severely neglected and mistreated, but it turns out, to be more resilient than I thought.
4:09 It’s fun to use the hose to spin the wheels.
PRO TIP: Don’t use a pressure washer to spin mower wheels. If oiled properly, they can spin fast enough to separate the tire from the wheel.
(Ask me how I know.)
Alright, I have to hear this story.
Please tell me the story 😊
really! now you've got me curious
Story time? Here another pro Tip. Older mowers that had 4 bolt hole on rear rim will bolt onto a Ford bronco II. Not meant for highway use. 😮
Ok Ok. As a kid, I would spray water on the pedals of my bicycle and watch them spin. I’m guessing most of us have done it once in our youth.
We’ll, I was pressure washing my mower and wondered how fast a ball bearing mower wheel would spin with 1200 psi.
VERY FAST!!
So fast the centrifugal force expanded the tire to the point it came off the wheel.
After a little quality time with some WD40 and pry bars, I was able to reunite the tire and wheel.
My curiosity satisfied.
Not only would it be challenging, but fun to restore the mower to its former glory. Welding, cleaning, and to rebuilding of the engine. It may not be profitable, but then again, it would be a great mini video series. I enjoy and learn from your vedios, "thanks" for sharing!
you make a great point, thank you James A Zahn.
Thanks! I welded the deck on my Grandpa's old 1987, 3.5hp Briggs push mower like yours. Runs like a champ with help of your videos now too
thank you Thomas IV for the Super thanks and also for the comment!
It would be extremely awesome if you try to fix this old thing up!
It would be a definite watch!
thank you ShobeWorx, definitely going to try.
I suggest treating the engine and deck as separate projects.
For the deck you could explore the ways to fix it (welding and what i believe is called a drifter's stitch).
And on the engine, how much would it cost to refurbish the old reliable engine, vs buying a dubious brand new one
very nice, i really appreciate the suggestions
Hey bro, what's up? Old Betsy went through a lot but she's still alive and kicking😅😅😅😅. The deck has seen better days bro. I say don't spend too much time on this mower bro. Once the engine, self propel is salvageable, transfer it onto another deck
that might be the case here.
Something that has always irritated me is how abusive, careless, and destructive some folks are with their things. It also annoys me how some folks also do not take proper care of them leaving them outside to rot in the weather. I came from. A frugal background and thus I was taught to take care of and value everything I have. This poor mowers fate was avoidable. I had used many brands, makes, and, models in my life and have never seen one this bad. The cracked deck is a new one for me.
I know right, oh well, it's my problem now.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yup many is the time I have had to make someone else's issue mine so I could complete the work they needed done. College grounds keeping was forever like this because the shop boss didn't care to make folks responsible for taking care of things.
I have a 20+ year old Craftsman Hi tunnel mulcher and that Briggs and Stratton engine keeps on going. I leave old gas in it over the winter still runs. Had to change spark plug after 10 years. still going.
yes the older engines, seem to take fuel storage better.
Weld it up!! Top up the oil & compression test it.
ah, you've already read my mind
Great spare part mower 👍🙏👍🙏
that's a good possibility, thank you RayFpv, and I hope you're doing well.
I got a free craftsman mower not even 2 years old with self propel and I use it as my daily driver for mowing a few properties and when I went to take it off a trailer the blade was spinning and hit the hing and it leaked oil every where. I had to replace the sump and fly wheel key and all I have to do now is bend the shaft back and get a new blade. It was expensive to get the parts but worth it since I use it all the time.
you were very committed to fixing that thing for sure.
That old Briggs is still good
Just chuck it on a different body and use it
seem like a good plan to me.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE awesome 😎
I have a murray push mower with the exact same motor its had its litteral guts beat out and its oil is like gel but it still cuts grass like butter so its a keeper if it runs
nice! thank you Devinstroud.
Great video, that poor mower has had a hard life, that's a pretty big crack on the deck.
You got that right!
What was left of the mesh net was probably a bag used to pick up trash by the handlebars when mowing.
oh.. yeah , I can totally see that.
I personally would and have welded decks back together. As long as it's no rusted out it's worth a try.
thank you Brian King.
The dirty mower is a self-propelled Poulan Pro 550 Series because both the wheels and the bail cable lever are yellow and the deck is black.
you are correct
I'm a big proponent of keeping stuff out of the landfill, but that deck is beyond hope. There is no way you could get any kind of profit and the liability with that deck in the condition it's in is just way too high. I am going to vote that that you strip it and send the rest to recycling.
very true, my plan is to try and fix the deck, using multiple methods and then use it, as a beater mower.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE imo swap decks
why a landfill....try the scrapyard
@@joshuaguenin9507 they said recylcling
I'd weld that deck back together like I did my last Honda mower....and I still have that mower since 2010
just watched a vid where a briggs was swapped onto an electric pushmower deck . there'll be lots of these decks available in a few years when batteries (that cost as much as a new mower) wear out .
ah!!! that's a great idea!
I would strip it for parts. I recently replaced a Honda self propelled deck with a new one(100$) then swapped everything over and sold it for 220. in the end, the time it took to rightfully swap things over took me about 1.5 hours. so I consider myself breaking even on it.
nice job!
I got a mower that was almost this bad....it had a stick holding up the gas tank and the block and it looked like the person put 2 stroke oil in the engine. The deck had 1 Crack by the discharge chute. Yea I have been pretty lucky too and gotten nice equipment so that one and this one you have surprised me. I say use the parts for another project, you will never get the deck right
thank you G Machine.
I welded my deck and still going after years
really? nice job.
To start, I'd drain the few drops of oil out of that motor and more than likely flush it with kerosene or diesel, turning it with a drill and the plug removed,, pull the carb and wash it and the intake out and fix the recoil. IF I had a TIG rig I'd weld the crack up in the deck just for practice IF I needed the mower or just on a whim. PROBABLY a whim because my liking for the old Briggs engines in general and this one has well proved itself. After the motor work was done and the blade sharpened and balanced I'd pour it fill 0f Delo and let it run at idle for a while just to see how it'd do. Smoothing the weld wouldn't be a priority but a little paint would. Then just sit back and grin a while. This one reminds me of the two 85 models I have that still run quite well. There's still the remnant of a mower lurking in there. Just depends on how you feel about bringing it out. And some of mine have looked that bad. The Roof sat for over 12 years. Thanks and Blessings!
yes I plan on running some old gas thru the engine to clean it.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE That'll work just fine! A-PLUS!
Hi, you may want to consider donating this mower to the Smithsonian. Don't think this would be worth the trouble or time, unless you really really really like a challenge! Best of success no mater which venue you decide upon. 🙂
you make a good point Mr G.
You have an engine, that's a start. Frig the deck if you were keeping it yea weld it up but wouldn't try to sell it like that. Might be surprised by how good that flathead still carries a load.
yes you are correct I doubt I'll be able to sell it, just a fun thing to try out.
Sounds like a knocking engine good for parts!!
quite possibly although not having a good spring to control the idle, made it hard to tell.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE whenever you get around it remove the cylinderhead!! Whit the head off!! Put the piston at top dead center.. and use your fingers to move piston back and forth if it moves its got play in the wist pen.. it's shot due to being Neglected... and a dirty airfilter.. it sucked in dirt and scored up the cylinderwall wore out the intrenerals
That spark plug is for overhead valve Briggs and Stratton engine and few others
yes you are correct.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE okay I might not know much about small engine,s but that stuck out like a sore thumb 😂🤣
Weld it and clean the carb it would be interesting to see a mower this bad work again so I’d try and save it
so far that's the plan.
Like I said these engines are near unkillable compared to the new ones they’ve been making. Do you actually plan on swapping that transmission onto that yard king mower?
no I don't unless, I find the same exact deck. making a transmission fit a different deck can be a huge pain.
I usually weld any cracks in the deck on a push mower but never seen one cracked like that
I know right, I've seen cracks, but this is broken.
Well after seeing that . Wow they didn't care if it at all if you go the route of fixing that deck I'm interested to see how it comes about I never seen a mower deck in such disarray and I'm still surprised that engine ran without no oil like it has
I know right.
There, a better comparison for the precision of a gas mower: It's not a race car, it's a mower. That's a little different from Donyboy73's "it's not the space shuttle, it's a (insert outdoor equipment type here)" The reason I say Donyboy73 instead of Taryl is because he was saying it since 2011 or 2012. Of course, without Canadians, Americans couldn't capitalise on a lot of stuff we invented. Basketball, telephone, multiplex movie theatres, the incandescent light bulb (Edison bought it from two Canadians), as a joke, Walt and Roy Disney. I say that because Walt and Roy Disney were born to Elias Disney from Bluevale, Ontario, Canada.
Thanks for the information
Speculation on what caused the crack might aid in deterring a proposed course of action.
very well said.
I personally would part it out and get the engine running
thank you Trevor Benes
what caused the crack was excessive vibration and end user damage/abuse, the mower is a Poulan Pro or Husqvarna Outdoor Products, HOP for short, someone put a "universal" blade on it and it spun on the blade adapter ruining it, an uncentered let alone wrong blade is a disaster waiting to happen, universal blades caused so much damage that part companies (atleast the ones i buy from) quit producing them. the correct 22in Husqvarna blade is a HOP 141114 or 406713 (new p/n) also when a push mower frame is compromised, it's best to transplant the engine and trash the frame.
It's a Briggs Flathead you know it's gonna run 😁 good old Made in 🇺🇲
you got that right. It was made well, and it certainly outlasted the deck.
Use it for Parts: Some states don't allow mower decks to be welded or repaired. Thanks
I believe that would be a regulation for a repair shop, which is understandable. I don't think it prevent's people from doing it as the owner.
C'mon man! Don't be a quitter. Jeff Spicoli's dad has an ultimate set of tools. He can fix that deck as good as new. You're not going to let him one up you are you? lol You have some sentiment from me. Sometimes even when something is free, it's better to cut your losses and even pay somebody to take it and save you from yourself. They have some real interesting new age repair processes and materials which may make for an interesting video; i.e.; exploring what's available; and, execute the repair.
lol.. don't worry I intend on going further on it.
I have a craftsman m250 fwd mower and I changed the blade it is the correct one but the orientation always gets messed up. I put it in the right orientation and tightened it as tight as I can get it but as soon as I mow with it it moves and I can’t figure out why?
did you get a universal blade or the same type as the one that came on it? Otherwise the blade adapter isn't engaging the middle part of the blade like it should
It was universal. Anything I can do to fix?
you mean the adaptor? Have you looked to see If it's damaged? if it is, no I'd just replace the adaptor
I looked this morning the adaptor is damaged. Not sure how to get it off some of this stuff is new to me sorry. Also this is my lawn mower model: 12AVB2AQ793.
I can’t seem to find it.
found it, and you're lucky, this was the cheapest I could find, at almost half the price.
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What website do you use to find these free mowers
Craigs and FB marketplace.
I would recommend more diagnostic work on the engine first. Clean as much dirt as possible out of the carburator and intake to prevent ingesting more debris. Fill the oil to full, then run the engine for a couple minutes. Do an oil change, and fill with a motor oil and Marvel Mystery mix. Run this for 10 to 15 minutes, then do another oil change. Adjust the carb and see how it's doing. If it sounds good, then it's a keeper. If it has a rod knock, use it for parts. I did this procedure to resurrect a 1960's Briggs mower, and have gotten a couple seasons out of it so far.
yes I think you're right, going to do more diagnostic on it before I throw in the towel
What does the multiple oil changes do?
it's to clean the deposits that have collected at the bottom of the engine.
Mate, that transmission may be good for last weeks mower? I sure hope so. Let us know.
thank you Dee Bee.
Did you add oil befor starting it
yes, I forget to mention, it, and only realized after I uploaded the video.
5:26 what I would do is to swap the transmission into the one which has a damaged transmission. Or fix the damaged transmission, but if you already have a parts mower why not use it.
that's great advice, yes I have one that could use this transmission
A deck cracked that badly usually means a bent crank. It’s amazing what people do to these things sometimes!
hmmm. you are right, Now I need to put my gauge on it and check thanks
I’d probably put oil in, run for a bit, check compression and if all works out, tack weld the deck. Good luck.
I think that's a good idea.
Maybe there a way to weld it back together or get a new one?
I'm going to try to weld it but the metal might be too thin.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE true
I think the soap you used is more valuble than the mower. Unless your super bored and want to practice welding, I think it's scrap. Great video!
you're right about the soap. Thank you Joseph BrokenBourgh.
The deck is but plentiful parts
I know how to weld, but don't have a welder. I'd fix the deck on my HRC216K1HRX because everything else works/runs fine.
If you have the ability to weld that deck, I'd say salvage it. If not, strip it for parts, recycle the bad stuff.
that's the plan right now.
You should of used it as a holloween decoration.
I know right!
I think it would be interesting. If you would, you know, fix it up and then try to resell it.
possible but we'll see if it holds up first.
At 7:11 if you look at the carb throat you can see black dirt appear
yes, I saw that too, it's the blow back, from the breather tube.
Mind telling me what brand mower this is?
sure, Poulan
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE thanks, was wondering because that style deck seems easy to work with if I ever get one and the engine dies or something.
it's not bad, I don't have too many complaints about it.
I bet the oil was never changed. U can’t kill those things lol
that's my guess too.
Personally I would keep the engine, drive system, and cables and trash the rest. Lots of good parts on that old flathead.
so my problem is transferring the drive train, it's really setup with this particular deck and height adjusters. Moving it over to a different deck and cause a lot of issues.
I would try to fix it for fun
lol.. I like your attitude.
I would part it out
makes sense
the sad part about this is the previous owners may not have had a choice in the matter of keeping it because of lack in money possibly. If that's true then I honestly feel bad for the people who ownd it last.
you and me both.
I'd weld the deck up if it was mine. Just run it till it can't be used anymore lol
the best comment I've seen so far!
What is the degreaser you use called?
it doesn't have a proper name, and when you see the jug it comes in, you'll understand. it's found at harbor Freight and it's the only one they sell
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I googled this information, and I was not disappointed. I will head over to HF today.
nice thank you again
That thing looks like it went to hell and back a dozen times lmao
very nice explanation
Oh, I leave things behind all the time... sometimes free is still too expensive.
lol.. I hear that.
JB Weld! Lol.
NICE!
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I have noticed that these decks are weak around the discharge side chute and once that breaks, the deck is done. I found a similar mower in the trash recently, it was a YardMan with the same deck problem. I picked it up, of course, it had a Quantum engine on it.
thank you for the information, I never noticed they were weak there.
I‘m not a fan about wasting resources but in this case i‘d remove the wheels and maybe the self-propel, then scrap it.
I think you have a point!
I rarely say this because I’m a fix it guy, but I would save the transmission and belt and toss the rest. That one is so worn out and ugly that you would probably would have trouble giving it away. Bon Voyage!
I hear what you're saying Bruce Coleman.
that 3.75hp Sprint B&S was not my favorite power by far.
junk, actually. You're right about the parts worth 'retaining' . Scrap the rest. ugh.
Man the previous owner beat the snot out of that poor mower!!! I've never seen a mower in that bad of shape. I'd normally say fix it, but this thing is beyond fixing. My opinion, is use it for parts. Or if the motor is good put on another project
thank you Gary Allen, I'm still going to give it a shot, although I think you already know what's going to happen
You should try to fix it!
oh I plan to,.
Yeah, that looks rough..
yes you go that right.
I'm guessing rocks hit the inside of the deck.
that's a good possibility
mustie1 on youtube has messed with some pretty bad mowers from the sound of it. If you have a welder then the deck might be salvable. Tho the mower as a whole. Looks more like parts. an interesting video idea might be to take apart the engine and see how bad it is. But that engines future id say seems bleak.
that's definitely a good idea.
one word: how...
lots of perseverance
For me, the make-or-break would always be the condition of the deck. You can replace an engine, wheels etc. That deck is pooched.
you are absolutely correct
you should weld it up
right now, that's the plan.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE hell yea that's what I've done on rust and cracks make sure to drill a hole at the end to relive the stress and you'll be good it's not a bad deck besides that so it'll be a good thing to practice welding on
that's the plan drill, and then grind and weld.
Fix itttt! It's not that bad
planning on it.
Only the deck is scrap, strip the deck of the engine, drive train, suspension, handle.
thank you ShadowOps Airman1
Holy cow if I saw something like this I would just leave it because there's know point in wasting your time and patience.
Use this mower for spare parts.
you make a lot of sense.
It's going to came alive and end us all.
lol!
Fix it it has the the good briggs on it
yes it does, it's worth it then.
zombie mower, use it for parts and scrap the rest
for sure.
Get some propane torch brazing rod and fix the crack
thank you Raven.
That spark plug looks like a ohv plug in a flat head engine the plug could have hit the top of the piston.
you are absolutely right, the plug is at the long version for OHV, they really didn't know what they were doing with this mower.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE My best guess is they barely had enough money to keep things going around the place. They also likely had very little knowledge of engines / how to maintain them properly and well this is what the result.....they used it probably as long as they possibly could before they decided even it was too far gone. What amazed me was that oil......I am beyond shocked if you really think about it just how that didn't lock up or blow up in that condition.
It will stop running if you throw i off a big cliff 😂
very true.
Since the engine is 'iffy' at best, and the deck is all but shot, it may not be worth any more time. If the deck was good, it would be worth trying to revive the engine, if the engine ran like a charm, it would be worth fixing the deck. With this much wrong, I would consider that mower a "write-off".
you are correct although I'm still going to try and save it.
Id rather replace the mower but use it for parts
that my be the case here.
between 10 and 15 collected trimmers
2 that I use one for bigger jobs one for at home stuff
makes sense.
Who ever was the owner of this machine, they were clearly living their life in a coma.
lol!! thank you Keith Dunbar.
WOW! No, No, No, No, No!😅😅🤔😆
I know it's that bad isn't it.
What better place to practice your welding technique than something that doesn't matter? Stop drill the crack and have a go at welding the deck back together.
you're absolutely correct
weld it up and give it away to someone who needs a mower
hoping to soon, got to replace that spring too.
Parts mower...
thank you George Mazich.
Fix the crack and give this mower a second life. It deserves it considering how it was abused.
that's what I'm going to try.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Great. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
I wouldn’t even try to fix the deck at all. If you’re all gung ho in using parts from the mower then try and swap the deck with something that is in a lot better condition than this one.
thank you William Snow.
You could weld the deck if it was a steel one but aluminium alloy decks require.more skill to weld & it's not worth getting a trades qualified welder to weld it if you have to pay them for it because the labour costs more than the mower is worth !
very true.
I'd say weld it up, at least everything else works
that's my thought, going to give it a shot later. thank you TheRandom Man.
If there EVER was a mower that deserved to stay in one piece and run it IS this one. If you part it out I guarantee you that is some bad karma!! Change the oil, weld the deck and replace what you can and fire it up! Cut some grass with it man. Don't give yourself bad bad bad juju!
ah,, very nicely said.
Fix it! Why? Why not? Haha
you are correct, why not, what have I got to loose. thank you The Dude Moe.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE plus ..y'know.... Content!
I'd even try JB weild just to be cost effective
I already have the welder and wire, so that's what I'm going to try.
Throw it away?
nah, going to take a closer look at it.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I would just keep the engine.
not sure yet, how well the engine runs but that's a good idea though.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE hope the engine is good. Finally got a sump for engine. Waiting on it.
nice, let me know.
Hi
hello.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE how are you doing?
fix the machine show it better respect then the older owners did i used victa lawn mowers ans it was a 2 stroke and in south africa no parts you on the other hand have one fx it my gut tells me so
thank you Christopher Barry.
If you had a welder and a few hours you could make this mower great again.
oh I'm definitely going to try.
I'd strip it for the few good parts and toss the rest. That deck is so badly damaged and cheap it's not worth it time. Let alone any money.
thank you Jacob Feather.