Pretty bad actually... The plastic part inside broke and I had to 3d print a new part, and printed some upgrades for it as well. These parts made it better but it still just have so much fines... Not worth the money anymore.
You missed the idea behind the rubber bottom. I think the idea with the rubber bottom is that you press down on the top of the grinder unit and it SUCTIONS the grinder onto the table, similar to a suction cup for your mobile phone holder in the car, or the IKEA bathroom hooks, if you have used those. Press it down to push the air out of the bottom of the rubber, and now it should be quite stable. It allows some movement to help with slight tilting when you are turning the handle, but it stays on the table, so less force needed to hold it. Try it and see, any questions, comment and lets see if we can figure it out.
I have been using the original Skerton since 2013. It has ground beans well; however, the grind has been inconsistent, but it has been good enough for my Keurig k cup.
Its quite a stretch to call a product outdated which is only 4 years old. How has humanitys conception of coffee changed that much since then? Still works fine for me, solid grinder, good coffee.
You do the kinds of reviews I’ve been looking for. Holy crap dude, I can’t believe you don’t have way more subs. You’re so level headed, clear and knowledgeable about what you’re talking about. You stay on topic and cut right to the point. Your B roll is fun and you’re a good looking guy. This is a great injustice!
I'm so glad you did this review. I lost my hario mini grinder and was thinking of replacing it with the skerten. I actually ended up getting the 1zpresso pro instead due to your review. This review is validation that I made the right decision lol
Yep, outdated. I had one, it lasted 2 weeks before I sent it back along with the hinky Hario scale. That's one good thing about amazon. I now have a 1zpresso K max and a timemore black mirror gen 2 scale. Love both, life is way way better now. Thanks for the pointers.
Ya I use to use the hario slim then upgraded to the 1zpresso jx pro. Def night and day. Thanks for the review on the pro it helped alot in looking for a good grinder!
I use the skerton pro and while I’ve been very happy with I’m looking to step up my coffee game and upgrade to a next level grinder. Not sure which one yet.
i had the coolest coffee roaster in my neighborhood while i was living in south korea teaching after college. just a triangle shaped room, like a living room in his house, with a wall full of coffees, and he roasted your beans on the spot. he sold me a hario column grinder, which of course i knew nothing about, so i assumed it was the best and most idealized form of coffee preparation. in away, it was leagues ahead of anything i was familiar with, and i used it for years, making what i knew to be espresso at home, with a moka pot. after letting that one go, and getting a new hario column grinder this year (the older one was actually much nicer, had more than a rubber gasket to keep the top and bottom together, and had ridges along the bottom section making it easier to hold), my world is falling apart. not only is my new one less comfortable to hold and less elegant to look at, it turns out there is fancier coffee than i was used to. i am still trying to ignore the trauma of this reality, and to cope.....
Don't worry, it's all apart of a process most of us have to go through 😅 When you upgrade slowly you can better appreciate the increase in quality at each step.
@@coffeechronicler through the tears, i still see signs of hope haha to be honest, home roasting and trying coffees has yielded far better gains than worrying about the tech. the hario with pour over is doing quite well. but having good tech with bad coffee, this is a crazy moves. i dont need to move into espresso yet maybe good luck with your videos, you create them well
I have the original Hario. Tried it for espresso (very clumsy). A gentleman made stabilizer plate which mounted just above the outer burr and transformed this grinder. Still works perfect but use a Rancilio Rocky for med fine to course and a Ceado stepless for espresso. Skerton is a shelf queen but still works very well for no electricity grinding.
My favourite feature of hario skerton pro was that you could get the grounds out and didn't have to do much cleaning with a brush or anything. Compared to something like Timemore Chestnut C3 Pro S2C that I got after. And frankly the 1Zpresso Jx is also 3-4x as expensive as the Skerton Pro. Timemore C2 is also over double the price of Skerton Pro. Nobody slightly curious in grinding coffee beans goes "you know what my wallet needs? Getting rid of 100 euros for curiosity". Skerton Pro is already at the upper range of "should I see if I like this thing and if it has any worth in my life" in terms of budget. I think the review is just missing the mark on comparisons and target audience's needs. On the other hand let's say you are making breakfast and set the water to boil in a kettle and grind the coffee. What magnificient activity are you gonna pull in that minute you saved with over doubling the investment? Time = money but you need to be able to use that saved time for something productive or it doesn't mean a thing. I'd compare it to how in production engineering there's a lot of time that could be squeezed out of the process. However none of that would make the product lead time quicker or allow to produce more work in the meantime, but getting rid of that wasted time would create its own expenses and at least work hours re-designing the process. The end result would cost extra without bringing any benefits. You need to have the big picture in sight whenever you're optimising and investing in optimising to make sure you're not optimising things that don't bring any value. And at least not use the meaningless optimisation as an argument for doing something. In this case you literally can't get 6 hours of productive time at the end of the year for your purchase. You get a minute every morning when waiting for the water to boil. It's next to meaningless. However grinding with Timemore could bring more pleasure to you which is a different and valid argument. In general my experience is that Skerton Pro is just about perfect grinder for someone who wants to see if they're into grinding coffee from beans. It's not too cheap to make the experience miserable and it's not too expensive to just skip the whole idea. The quality is acceptable and user experience is on par with most people's kitchen equipment.
How many grams of beans can you (roughly) load into the tank to grind in one go? It looks like it's smaller than the previous versions? And, smaller than the lower glass container, so is it much less than 100 g? Thanks
I had it and I absolutely hated it. The biggest problem for me is it produces too much fine powder. Every cup I get from this grinder tastes over extracted and muddy regardless the grind settings.
Thanks for this updated review. I have a Hario Mini Slim and was considering upgrading. Looks like I need to turn my attention to a more modern grinder.
You're welcome. The Slim and Skerton are basically the same grinders just slightly different capacity and look. Would definitely recommend a more modern grinder.
I need a grinder that is fast, easy to clean, and for maximum 4 cups of brewed coffe at a time. Would you recommend one or so? Doesn't have to be a hand grider, just one that gives good taste. Is timemore chestnut c2 manual coffee grinder good for now in 2022?
I have been useing one for a few months now and I want to upgrade to a timemore it litarly sucks its too big for my hand it takes forever and takes soo much force since there is no bearings
I have read many reviews and seen many videos about grinders, but I still have some doubts. I'm looking for a budget hand grinder for espresso. For what I have seen, the 2 most commented budget grinders are the Hario Skerton Pro and the Timemore C2. My question is: When compared directly, ¿which one of these 2 grinders is better for espresso? You say that the Timemore C2 is a better option than the Hario Skerton Pro, but, ¿is this true when we are talking about a grinder only for espresso? Because reviews say that the Hario Skerton Pro is OK for espresso, and theSkerton I know neither one is perfect for espresso, but I'm not looking for perfection, I'm just looking for a fairly good grinder for espresso that is affordable. Grinders that are perfect for espresso, for what I have seen, cost more than 150$, and I'm not willing to pay that amount. At the moment I'm using an electric blade grinder, so I think whichever I choose between the Hario and the Timemore will outperform my current grinder, but I want to make the right choice and buy the best of the 2 for espresso, as both of them are in a similar price range. Thanks!
It actually is worth it if you dont have space for a nice 300 dollar grinder. The 1zspresso starts at 130 might as well go all the way. Also the skerton pro is way better than a krups blade grinder. This is supposed to be a budget grinder not a state of the art grinder.
Another awesome review ..how would you compare timemore c2 vs the 1zpresso jx ?. I love my jx and was wondering about timemore as they are very cheap ?
Thanks for the kind words! The C2 is very different compared to Jx. It's less consistent, not capable of grinding at espresso range, and less premium. But it still grinds very well for the price and then it's diameter and smaller size also makes it appealing to a lot of people. It's also very speedy, about the same as the Jx.
i have struggled for 2 months before watching your video that comparing 1zpresso JX and JX pro. now i just order the JX pro to replace my Hario Skerton Pro. i got lot of good memories with this grinder in the past 3 years. now it accompany me to move to canada from hk. you video gave tribute to this grinder before i put it in mothballs.
First of all I live in the UK, and prices differ. I own a Hario Skerton Pro, it cost me £48.00. I'm very happy with it. I think it's one of the best grinders on the market for £50 or less. I am certain I could get a better grinder if I was able or willing to spend more money. The Timemore C2 is almost certainly a better grinder, I could have bought one for £81. Depending on your point of view, that's either not much more, or it's nearly twice the price. If I pushed my budget up to £200, I could have bought a very good grinder indeed! Here's perhaps a more pertinent question. Would I be better off just getting my coffee bean supplier, to grind the beans for me? I buy my beans from a local coffee roaster, not the supermarket. They'll do it FOC, and will grind specifically for the brewing method I use.
Unground coffee can stay fresh for a few weeks to months, ground coffee will stay fresh for a few days to maybe week before it starts to decline. So it depends on how quickly you go through it.
Fresh ground coffee is only great for 3 days descent for the next two days and after that it starts getting real stale. But if you live nearby you could go every 3 or 4 days.
The Hario is bad in consistency for medium to large grinds. Therefore it is bad for drip pour over and french press. However, it does quite well for fine grinds for espresso surprisingly, which those fine grinds are quite consistent. Also, the finest setting of the Hario will choke the espresso machine, making the grinds too fine for espresso. You need to increase few clicks. It serves a good job if you focus on espresso, but not for drip coffee.
I have one, been trying to brew espresso but the 'clicks' are too far apart. Grind size is uniform on the fine end, but can't do french press. not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, but clearly not the budget grinder of choice anymore.
One thing you are missing is that Ceramic can last a lot longer than steel. Ceramics generally wont dull and will maintain their edge almost indefinitely, however, they are less sharp than steel. They can break if enough force is placed on them.
That's true, but I don't really think it's important because they are so far apart in terms of performanc to begin with. I'd still rather use a modern grinder with dull steel burrs than the Skerton with pristine ceramic :)
@@coffeechronicler Eh, I tried a steel grinder and I liked it, though, I"m going to probably stick with my Hario due to the fact it has lasted so long. And it does well enough for me since I do drip coffee. I used to do pour over and Aeropress though I just don't have the time to pull them out on the weekdays anymore due to work/life getting busy. I do have a pretty nice coffee brewer that is really close to pour over imo.
I purchased the Blue Horse Products modification which has greatly increased grind uniformity. I'm thinking about milling bronze bearings to increase stability even more. I probably should have purchased a more expensive grinder.
As far as I know, the Blue Horse mod is only made for the original Skerton, not the Pro version. It would probably be cheaper to get a C2 than tinkering with the bearings :)
I´m using the Skerton (non Pro) since July 2018, yes it has it´s flaws I admit. But I like it. For my kind of use (V60 and mokkapot) the grind size which it is able to achieve is very usable. I don´t see any difference between my model and your Pro model other than the grind size adjustment and some design changes.
I think it would be fairer if you changed the title to be specific to pour-overs / V60 or similar, as its very different if you are grinding for espresso. You are saying the C2 is better than the Pro, yet plenty reviews say its not good for espresso grind. I'd be more than happy if you can suggest a better alternative for the price than the Skerton Pro, for espresso and V60 combined.
I use to have a Hario slim but lost it, so I am evaluating the Skerton and Timemore C2 for espresso. The comments say C2 is generally better than Hario but not good enough for espresso, but the Hario I had seems to get good even fine grinds. So, I guess for espresso the Hario is better than the C2. For less fine grinds, C2 probably better. I will stick with Hario since I make espressos.
My Skerton Pro is now a camping essential. Only because I'm making coffee for more than 3 persons, and it can grind a lot more beans than other better hand grinders. If Timemore or other companies make a larger capacity version for their hand grinders i'd definitely use theirs instead.
The volume is nice. How much are you grinding? I think it would probably still be faster to weigh out and grind in two portions with a grinder like the Jx.
@@tubby23x The Jx Pro has a 30-35 g capacity, and of course there is the Lido 3 that also has a huge capacity. But that one is pretty bulky and heavy to drag around.
I used to have the Skerton Plus which wasn't too different. I later upgraded to the Baratza Encore which wasn't a huge jump in grind quality, but grind speed & numbered grind settings made it worth it. The upgrade to the Comandante was when the real difference happened. The Comandante vs Skerton is night and day, going back to it now would make it feel like a toy. I've tried using the Baratza Encore again as well for drip coffee but found the extractions & resulting flavors were too uneven to warrant the convenience. (and now I have a Niche Zero coming in December. :| )
@@redfox05nl you would need a female bit to fit around the inner burr shaft. It would have to be narrow enough to fit the slot inside the surrounding plastic struts which brace to the outer body
I stupidly got it couple months ago without much research to use it with my french press. The grains have a lot of dust and boulders. Long story short, looking for a premium grinder right now.
Sorry to hear about that, but don't worry, most of us have made the same mistake! Check out some of my other grinder reviews for some excellent alternatives!
@@coffeechronicler Thank you for the reply. Currently I am thinking either Timemore g1 or comandante c40. I am leaning more towards comandante, because I want something that will be reliable, precise, durable over time. I want to pay more now so that I dont have to buy again in a couple years. Also i really want to try espresso in the future. Comandante would be a great help in that. What do you think? Would I get what i am looking for from Comandante?
@@coffeechronicler i got the k-plus thanks to your 1zpresso commendation. the grinds are so consistent and i save so much time. the hario grinds are terrible and clogged my brews.
What's your experience been with the Hario Skerton? Outdated or still a decent option today?
Pretty bad actually...
The plastic part inside broke and I had to 3d print a new part, and printed some upgrades for it as well. These parts made it better but it still just have so much fines... Not worth the money anymore.
You missed the idea behind the rubber bottom. I think the idea with the rubber bottom is that you press down on the top of the grinder unit and it SUCTIONS the grinder onto the table, similar to a suction cup for your mobile phone holder in the car, or the IKEA bathroom hooks, if you have used those. Press it down to push the air out of the bottom of the rubber, and now it should be quite stable. It allows some movement to help with slight tilting when you are turning the handle, but it stays on the table, so less force needed to hold it. Try it and see, any questions, comment and lets see if we can figure it out.
@@rallegade which parts did you 3D print? Can you share the STL's?
I have been using the original Skerton since 2013. It has ground beans well; however, the grind has been inconsistent, but it has been good enough for my Keurig k cup.
Its quite a stretch to call a product outdated which is only 4 years old. How has humanitys conception of coffee changed that much since then? Still works fine for me, solid grinder, good coffee.
You do the kinds of reviews I’ve been looking for. Holy crap dude, I can’t believe you don’t have way more subs.
You’re so level headed, clear and knowledgeable about what you’re talking about.
You stay on topic and cut right to the point.
Your B roll is fun and you’re a good looking guy. This is a great injustice!
I'm so glad you did this review. I lost my hario mini grinder and was thinking of replacing it with the skerten. I actually ended up getting the 1zpresso pro instead due to your review. This review is validation that I made the right decision lol
That's great to hear! Yes, the Skerton Pro is bascially just an XL version of the mini, so not much of an upgrade 🙂
Thanks for this review! It really helped me.
Yep, outdated. I had one, it lasted 2 weeks before I sent it back along with the hinky Hario scale. That's one good thing about amazon.
I now have a 1zpresso K max and a timemore black mirror gen 2 scale. Love both, life is way way better now. Thanks for the pointers.
Ya I use to use the hario slim then upgraded to the 1zpresso jx pro. Def night and day. Thanks for the review on the pro it helped alot in looking for a good grinder!
That's great to hear!
I use the skerton pro and while I’ve been very happy with I’m looking to step up my coffee game and upgrade to a next level grinder. Not sure which one yet.
i had the coolest coffee roaster in my neighborhood while i was living in south korea teaching after college. just a triangle shaped room, like a living room in his house, with a wall full of coffees, and he roasted your beans on the spot. he sold me a hario column grinder, which of course i knew nothing about, so i assumed it was the best and most idealized form of coffee preparation. in away, it was leagues ahead of anything i was familiar with, and i used it for years, making what i knew to be espresso at home, with a moka pot.
after letting that one go, and getting a new hario column grinder this year (the older one was actually much nicer, had more than a rubber gasket to keep the top and bottom together, and had ridges along the bottom section making it easier to hold), my world is falling apart. not only is my new one less comfortable to hold and less elegant to look at, it turns out there is fancier coffee than i was used to.
i am still trying to ignore the trauma of this reality, and to cope.....
Don't worry, it's all apart of a process most of us have to go through 😅 When you upgrade slowly you can better appreciate the increase in quality at each step.
@@coffeechronicler through the tears, i still see signs of hope haha
to be honest, home roasting and trying coffees has yielded far better gains than worrying about the tech. the hario with pour over is doing quite well. but having good tech with bad coffee, this is a crazy moves. i dont need to move into espresso yet maybe
good luck with your videos, you create them well
I have the original Hario. Tried it for espresso (very clumsy). A gentleman made stabilizer plate which mounted just above the outer burr and transformed this grinder. Still works perfect but use a Rancilio Rocky for med fine to course and a Ceado stepless for espresso. Skerton is a shelf queen but still works very well for no electricity grinding.
Why didn't you demonstrate the settings with the triangular nut? I was hoping to get some help with that.
- Oh, you got one of those cheap manual coffee grinders.
- Are you blind? No, thats is a fancy and expensive pepper mill.
All about perception 😅
My favourite feature of hario skerton pro was that you could get the grounds out and didn't have to do much cleaning with a brush or anything. Compared to something like Timemore Chestnut C3 Pro S2C that I got after. And frankly the 1Zpresso Jx is also 3-4x as expensive as the Skerton Pro. Timemore C2 is also over double the price of Skerton Pro. Nobody slightly curious in grinding coffee beans goes "you know what my wallet needs? Getting rid of 100 euros for curiosity". Skerton Pro is already at the upper range of "should I see if I like this thing and if it has any worth in my life" in terms of budget. I think the review is just missing the mark on comparisons and target audience's needs. On the other hand let's say you are making breakfast and set the water to boil in a kettle and grind the coffee. What magnificient activity are you gonna pull in that minute you saved with over doubling the investment? Time = money but you need to be able to use that saved time for something productive or it doesn't mean a thing.
I'd compare it to how in production engineering there's a lot of time that could be squeezed out of the process. However none of that would make the product lead time quicker or allow to produce more work in the meantime, but getting rid of that wasted time would create its own expenses and at least work hours re-designing the process. The end result would cost extra without bringing any benefits. You need to have the big picture in sight whenever you're optimising and investing in optimising to make sure you're not optimising things that don't bring any value. And at least not use the meaningless optimisation as an argument for doing something. In this case you literally can't get 6 hours of productive time at the end of the year for your purchase. You get a minute every morning when waiting for the water to boil. It's next to meaningless. However grinding with Timemore could bring more pleasure to you which is a different and valid argument.
In general my experience is that Skerton Pro is just about perfect grinder for someone who wants to see if they're into grinding coffee from beans. It's not too cheap to make the experience miserable and it's not too expensive to just skip the whole idea. The quality is acceptable and user experience is on par with most people's kitchen equipment.
How many grams of beans can you (roughly) load into the tank to grind in one go? It looks like it's smaller than the previous versions? And, smaller than the lower glass container, so is it much less than 100 g? Thanks
My guess is that a review on 1Zpresso K-plus is coming up very soon. It will be interesting to see your comparisons with the JX and JX Pro.
Actually it's another one ;) Electric...
Ok, still looking forward for your next coming grinder review and for the K-plus a little bit later. 😀
@@ottosamuelsson1317 Yes, the K review will arrive in a not so distant future :)
I had it and I absolutely hated it. The biggest problem for me is it produces too much fine powder. Every cup I get from this grinder tastes over extracted and muddy regardless the grind settings.
Thanks for this updated review. I have a Hario Mini Slim and was considering upgrading. Looks like I need to turn my attention to a more modern grinder.
You're welcome. The Slim and Skerton are basically the same grinders just slightly different capacity and look. Would definitely recommend a more modern grinder.
@@coffeechronicler what do you recommend? I am reconsidering my Hario Slim Pro decision. I only need pour over and press grinds.
@@readyme I'd like to know as well :)
I need a grinder that is fast, easy to clean, and for maximum 4 cups of brewed coffe at a time. Would you recommend one or so? Doesn't have to be a hand grider, just one that gives good taste. Is timemore chestnut c2 manual coffee grinder good for now in 2022?
Checkout Timemore C2 Max. It has a bigger capacity. Still not 4 cups but closer...
I have been useing one for a few months now and I want to upgrade to a timemore
it litarly sucks its too big for my hand it takes forever and takes soo much force since there is no bearings
I have read many reviews and seen many videos about grinders, but I still have some doubts.
I'm looking for a budget hand grinder for espresso. For what I have seen, the 2 most commented budget grinders are the Hario Skerton Pro and the Timemore C2.
My question is: When compared directly, ¿which one of these 2 grinders is better for espresso?
You say that the Timemore C2 is a better option than the Hario Skerton Pro, but, ¿is this true when we are talking about a grinder only for espresso? Because reviews say that the Hario Skerton Pro is OK for espresso, and theSkerton
I know neither one is perfect for espresso, but I'm not looking for perfection, I'm just looking for a fairly good grinder for espresso that is affordable. Grinders that are perfect for espresso, for what I have seen, cost more than 150$, and I'm not willing to pay that amount.
At the moment I'm using an electric blade grinder, so I think whichever I choose between the Hario and the Timemore will outperform my current grinder, but I want to make the right choice and buy the best of the 2 for espresso, as both of them are in a similar price range.
Thanks!
None of them are really suitable for espresso on a daily basis.. minimum requirement would be the basic Jx
It actually is worth it if you dont have space for a nice 300 dollar grinder. The 1zspresso starts at 130 might as well go all the way. Also the skerton pro is way better than a krups blade grinder. This is supposed to be a budget grinder not a state of the art grinder.
Another awesome review ..how would you compare timemore c2 vs the 1zpresso jx ?. I love my jx and was wondering about timemore as they are very cheap ?
Thanks for the kind words! The C2 is very different compared to Jx. It's less consistent, not capable of grinding at espresso range, and less premium. But it still grinds very well for the price and then it's diameter and smaller size also makes it appealing to a lot of people. It's also very speedy, about the same as the Jx.
@@coffeechronicler thanks Asser and that would make C2 a good travel grinder ...I don’t have to drag my JX every where ....
i have struggled for 2 months before watching your video that comparing 1zpresso JX and JX pro.
now i just order the JX pro to replace my Hario Skerton Pro.
i got lot of good memories with this grinder in the past 3 years.
now it accompany me to move to canada from hk.
you video gave tribute to this grinder before i put it in mothballs.
First of all I live in the UK, and prices differ. I own a Hario Skerton Pro, it cost me £48.00. I'm very happy with it. I think it's one of the best grinders on the market for £50 or less.
I am certain I could get a better grinder if I was able or willing to spend more money. The Timemore C2 is almost certainly a better grinder, I could have bought one for £81. Depending on your point of view, that's either not much more, or it's nearly twice the price. If I pushed my budget up to £200, I could have bought a very good grinder indeed!
Here's perhaps a more pertinent question. Would I be better off just getting my coffee bean supplier, to grind the beans for me? I buy my beans from a local coffee roaster, not the supermarket. They'll do it FOC, and will grind specifically for the brewing method I use.
Unground coffee can stay fresh for a few weeks to months, ground coffee will stay fresh for a few days to maybe week before it starts to decline. So it depends on how quickly you go through it.
Fresh ground coffee is only great for 3 days descent for the next two days and after that it starts getting
real stale. But if you live nearby you could go every 3 or 4 days.
The Hario is bad in consistency for medium to large grinds.
Therefore it is bad for drip pour over and french press.
However, it does quite well for fine grinds for espresso surprisingly, which those fine grinds are quite consistent.
Also, the finest setting of the Hario will choke the espresso machine, making the grinds too fine for espresso. You need to increase few clicks.
It serves a good job if you focus on espresso, but not for drip coffee.
Thanks for your comment. It helps me decide as I am looking for a good budget grinder for espresso.
I have one, been trying to brew espresso but the 'clicks' are too far apart. Grind size is uniform on the fine end, but can't do french press. not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, but clearly not the budget grinder of choice anymore.
On Amazon at the moment, the timemore c2 is $81 the pro $49.
Edit watched the video original comment was based off your article that brought me here.
One thing you are missing is that Ceramic can last a lot longer than steel. Ceramics generally wont dull and will maintain their edge almost indefinitely, however, they are less sharp than steel. They can break if enough force is placed on them.
That's true, but I don't really think it's important because they are so far apart in terms of performanc to begin with. I'd still rather use a modern grinder with dull steel burrs than the Skerton with pristine ceramic :)
@@coffeechronicler Eh, I tried a steel grinder and I liked it, though, I"m going to probably stick with my Hario due to the fact it has lasted so long. And it does well enough for me since I do drip coffee. I used to do pour over and Aeropress though I just don't have the time to pull them out on the weekdays anymore due to work/life getting busy. I do have a pretty nice coffee brewer that is really close to pour over imo.
I purchased the Blue Horse Products modification which has greatly increased grind uniformity. I'm thinking about milling bronze bearings to increase stability even more. I probably should have purchased a more expensive grinder.
As far as I know, the Blue Horse mod is only made for the original Skerton, not the Pro version. It would probably be cheaper to get a C2 than tinkering with the bearings :)
@@coffeechronicler I have done the mod on my Skerton Pro. Both versions are now supported.
I´m using the Skerton (non Pro) since July 2018, yes it has it´s flaws I admit. But I like it. For my kind of use (V60 and mokkapot) the grind size which it is able to achieve is very usable. I don´t see any difference between my model and your Pro model other than the grind size adjustment and some design changes.
How many clicks do you use for these two methods?
I think it would be fairer if you changed the title to be specific to pour-overs / V60 or similar, as its very different if you are grinding for espresso. You are saying the C2 is better than the Pro, yet plenty reviews say its not good for espresso grind. I'd be more than happy if you can suggest a better alternative for the price than the Skerton Pro, for espresso and V60 combined.
I use to have a Hario slim but lost it, so I am evaluating the Skerton and Timemore C2 for espresso. The comments say C2 is generally better than Hario but not good enough for espresso, but the Hario I had seems to get good even fine grinds. So, I guess for espresso the Hario is better than the C2. For less fine grinds, C2 probably better. I will stick with Hario since I make espressos.
I have the original version and upgrading to JX Pro soon based on your recommendation.
I guess mine will go to pepper too, thanks to your idea LOL
The Jx Pro is in a different league, your life quality will improve :)
My Skerton Pro is now a camping essential. Only because I'm making coffee for more than 3 persons, and it can grind a lot more beans than other better hand grinders. If Timemore or other companies make a larger capacity version for their hand grinders i'd definitely use theirs instead.
The volume is nice. How much are you grinding? I think it would probably still be faster to weigh out and grind in two portions with a grinder like the Jx.
@@coffeechronicler 30g for just myself, 50-60g for a group.
Lido3 from Orphan Espresso is another option, the plastic hopper holds up to 70 grams of coffee beans, but Lido3 is not light, around 1 kg.
@@inisayadeh ☝🏽this!!!!
@@tubby23x The Jx Pro has a 30-35 g capacity, and of course there is the Lido 3 that also has a huge capacity. But that one is pretty bulky and heavy to drag around.
Wait I always thought ceramic was harder than steel. But I do agree steel burrs are generally sharper than ceramic burrs in design
I used to have the Skerton Plus which wasn't too different. I later upgraded to the Baratza Encore which wasn't a huge jump in grind quality, but grind speed & numbered grind settings made it worth it. The upgrade to the Comandante was when the real difference happened. The Comandante vs Skerton is night and day, going back to it now would make it feel like a toy. I've tried using the Baratza Encore again as well for drip coffee but found the extractions & resulting flavors were too uneven to warrant the convenience.
(and now I have a Niche Zero coming in December. :| )
Yes, totally agree. Most of the entry level electric grinders don't offer much of an upgrade in terms of cup quality. Good luck with the Niche :)
Can you attach a cordless drill on a slow speed to your Comandante like you can do on the Skerton Pro?
@@redfox05nl you would need a female bit to fit around the inner burr shaft. It would have to be narrow enough to fit the slot inside the surrounding plastic struts which brace to the outer body
@@BatPotatoes Ah ok sounds not so simple as the Skerton Pro then :( I use a female hex shaped bit for that, which came in my standard toolkit set.
I stupidly got it couple months ago without much research to use it with my french press. The grains have a lot of dust and boulders. Long story short, looking for a premium grinder right now.
Sorry to hear about that, but don't worry, most of us have made the same mistake! Check out some of my other grinder reviews for some excellent alternatives!
@@coffeechronicler Thank you for the reply. Currently I am thinking either Timemore g1 or comandante c40. I am leaning more towards comandante, because I want something that will be reliable, precise, durable over time. I want to pay more now so that I dont have to buy again in a couple years. Also i really want to try espresso in the future. Comandante would be a great help in that. What do you think? Would I get what i am looking for from Comandante?
I started with a Hario Mini-Slim Pro, but then gave up quickly because the poor performance. Now using a 1Z JX Pro, much happier.
Ounces? WHAT ARE THOSE?!
Yeah, I'm still not sure, have to use a calculator every time :D
A grinder with that much variants between the grounds are totally unacceptable. What was Hario thinking ? They should actually stop making this.
Hello, which affordable grinder would you recommend. Cheers!
i would never use hario again
You should use it, just not for coffee 😉
@@coffeechronicler i got the k-plus thanks to your 1zpresso commendation. the grinds are so consistent and i save so much time. the hario grinds are terrible and clogged my brews.
Again, those coarse grind sizes for French press etc are absolute nonsense.