@ballincat43. look kid, i get that you want your videos to be popular, but here’s a tip, stop promoting your own channel in the comments/replies you will not succeed like that, nobody likes a spammer, if you want your videos to get popular make good videos and share them with people who are in the same or a similar niche as you, and if you’re especially confident in your work share it with a bigger youtuber don’t ask them to share it but ask them to enjoy it.
Props to the editor, the part where both Jerma and Star were arguing and began screaming at one another to a hard cut really felt like an OG Jerma/Star video, the exact kinda in-editing humour!
@@Kezsora Oh I'm SO sorry you read it like that. My SINCEREST apologies. - joking aside i really was being genuine, i just forgot how to talk like a normal human last night!
35:44 Somehow its the only thing I remember from the entire stream, most likely because I was half awake and when I heard that I was like "Wait, what!?"
Music producer here, limiters will help keep a sound below a peak level but won't usually help w the sorta thing that happened in the DMC stream because a sound can register a peak DB level relatively low but still sound REALLY LOUD to our ears. If anything ppl usually use limiters in music to make things louder, paradoxically. Tldr: limiters don't stop evil jerma nuke sounds.
It might if the lookahead is high enough and there's no attack on the limiter since there's a delay between the audio going out from OBS (so for DMC Jerma gets nuked and we get hit by a very compressed explosion)
@@2chickenmama while you're right, I imagine the limiters on jerma's stream aren't set anywhere near low enough that viewers actually get much in the way of relief from the explosion to catch a sound as loud and distorted as that from the DMC stream. Tbf I haven't tested it so I'm running of theory alone here but because the sound itself has a peak to average of basically 0, I can't imagine it'd be that much quieter than what we hear in the VOD. It might prevent your speakers from completely blowing though if you're watching on them.
@@SophiesName for sure, the threshold was probably still 0db and with jerma not redlining when he streams it would definitely be an awful surprise for the viewers with the jump in dynamic range lol. Although I do wonder if twitch does any kind of audio normalisation on their end, that way we'd only get the occasional jumpscare instead of tinnitus Also that's so nice ty!! the feeling is mutual, I'm glad I got to have this chat about preventing audio nukes lol
I'm an audio engineer. Loudness is very complicated and there's a lot of factors that contribute to it. One of the most important is crest factor, which is the ratio of peak to average signal. A limiter's primary use is to decrease the crest factor by lowering peaks, bringing them closer to the average level (decreasing dynamics). At the same time, they also add harmonic distortion which can make a sound louder by adding frequencies and filling out the spectrum (which doesn't affect dynamics). So while a sound might not be dynamic, it might still be loud because of its spectral content. Something important but not normally talked about is how "loud" means the opposite of what most people mean when it comes to music. People normally call something loud when it's very dynamic, like a jumpscare or when an explosion happens in a movie. But in music when we say loud we mean LOW dynamics. By that metric something like a movie with a high dynamic range is actually very quiet.
I'm not surpised jerma's penguin looks like a chiseled stone god with luscious locks of hair straight from a shampoo commercial while ster's one probably loves to eat nutrition pellets
34:52 "Let's wait for the wind" "Uhhhhhh-huh" ... "WOWOWOWOWOWW... WAOW... WWOAOWWW; *WOW!!* *WOW*" "Cuhmahn, come aun" _sounds of a rabid witch drowning in a vat of acid_
27:30 I have to agree with Ster. The confirmation is just more room for error, especially on platforms that crumble. The 321 already has you in sync, so pausing jeopardizes that sync thus leading to another potential for failure. If someone missed, then it's already messed up in that case.
I agree more with jerma. the slight pause gives time for the payer to plan a jump and be more accurate. i think if you're doing it at full speed that leaves more room for a player freaking out or not recognizing a jump and losing timing. as long as they can keep a good pattern like they did, i believe its a better strategy.
@@dagreenllama8172 what more is there to plan when you already see where to jump before you start? You don’t want to be sitting on a crumbling platform and trying to change the plan mid jump.
I tuned in for the first hour and had to go, I thought this would be a game they play for an hour, get annoyed at, move on But they did it, they reached the peek. Absolute god gamers.
when they were arguing about jerma timing vs gamer timing it sounded exactly like my grandparents every time one of them does something marginally resembling a mistake or fault
the whole thing around 23:30 feels like a Seinfeld bit, but I totally get it. Ster plays comp shooters so his reflexes and timings are much better than Jerma. Jerma is an old man who can't remember his own birthday and also he paints houses for fun. It's like when a kid has to slow down to explain how computers work to their mom.
I didn't even have to scroll and we got: * Imagine Sisyphus happy jokes * Ultrakill jokes * Sus jokes * Mention of Corax's videos * Ster And the first words out of Jerma's mouth are "I have a limiter." This is the best video ever made. You can retire.
Honestly them arguing about their timing philosophy was beautiful, both valid methods on how to do it but they fought ferociously, ster with his built in timing and jerma with his more rhythm based timing. Pause rep vs built in timing are good names for them.
is it weird that I loop this video in the background when i need to get work done. The soothing background music clashing with the argument over built-in timing is both calming and keeps me focused.
I get what Jerma is saying with the multi jump timing. After playing Unraveled 2 and completing all the bonus areas. That "delay" is to make sure you constantly have your junps in sync.
Wow, I'd never heard of Beton Brutal before, but it's actually super cool looking. I do agree with Ster that it looks better than Only Up by a long ways. It's not just random stolen assets in a void, there is real level design. BTW, Only Up was taken down because it had so many stolen assets in it. It literally was a cheap asset flip game
A visitor... Mmmm... Indeed. I have slept long enough. The kingdom of Heaven has long since forgotten my name, and I am EAGER to make them remember. However, the blood of Minos stains your hands, and I must admit, I'm curious about your skills, Weapon. And so, before I tear down the cities, and crush the armies of Heaven... you, shall do as an appetizer. Come forth, child of man, and DIE.
![Jerma Streams - Bread & Fred [with Ster]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/G5vORJNzBps/mqdefault.jpg)
One must imagine Jerma being happy.
or suspicious
@ballincat43. look kid, i get that you want your videos to be popular, but here’s a tip, stop promoting your own channel in the comments/replies you will not succeed like that, nobody likes a spammer, if you want your videos to get popular make good videos and share them with people who are in the same or a similar niche as you, and if you’re especially confident in your work share it with a bigger youtuber don’t ask them to share it but ask them to enjoy it.
HOLY SHIT BALLINCAT IS HERE FUCK ME
The sus guy
Unimaginable, he never laughs or smiles
one must imagine sisyphus as an insane man from boston
@ballincat43.yoooo ballincat43
@ballincat43.Pogger
thank you @ballincat43.
one must imagine sussyphis as the imposter.
One simply has to
the ruined house picture as Jerma and Ster fail that jump and argue was just absolute perfection
timestamp ?
17:54
such an accurate representation of my childhood
Always lovely when these two 40-year-old men have a date online
I love when their senior living home lets them use the computer.
22:28 is 10x funnier when you realized they both had the same idea for extending the bit at the same time
I also loved that poker face jerma has while they were regressing down
Hive mind Andys
Props to the editor, the part where both Jerma and Star were arguing and began screaming at one another to a hard cut really felt like an OG Jerma/Star video, the exact kinda in-editing humour!
I can't help but read this comment with dripping sarcasm even though I know you're being 100% genuine.
@@Kezsora Oh I'm SO sorry you read it like that. My SINCEREST apologies. - joking aside i really was being genuine, i just forgot how to talk like a normal human last night!
28:18
thank you@@chuckbatmangaming
@@chuckbatmangamingGOAT activity
"No one died on that hill, You're fighting ghosts" 🔥🔥✍
but where do the ghosts come from 🤔
@@troglodytee The ones that previously died on that hill alone
Oh for a second I thought this was more Ultrakill, but then I remembered he died 237 times to the first enemy before vomiting in his mother’s bed
A whole sleeve of Oreos!
@ballincat43.I don't believe you.
I'm not an og
@@quoteclone it is clear, the prophesy was true, ballincat43
lying@ballincat43.
This feels like watching your parents on the verge of divorce but are still trying to keep the relationship ok
too real
Lmao i almost commented this till i saw yours 🤣
Now I want to see them play It Takes Two
one must imagine Sisyphus oiled up
And caked up.
He must be SO buff from pushin that thang so long.
That's why he keeps dropping it when he gets near the top
He's doing those gamer reps
wearing biker shorts.
35:44 Somehow its the only thing I remember from the entire stream, most likely because I was half awake and when I heard that I was like "Wait, what!?"
“if i put my brain on a 50 ms delay, we are PERFECTLY in sync”
-thought ster was calling jerma slow 😂
One must imagine Sisyphus with built in timing
LOL
This whole stream felt like watching 2 guys get a couch up the stairs
Couch up the stairs/Fall joke-type games are back in fashion apparently
😂😂😂😂
5:40 "bad program" I love how years later ster still makes references to old videos
As opposed to Jerma who will call you a psycho for referencing something that happened like, a week ago and he’d say “how do you remember that”
really heartwarming for Jerma to dedicate this video to his old friend Sisyphus.
Music producer here, limiters will help keep a sound below a peak level but won't usually help w the sorta thing that happened in the DMC stream because a sound can register a peak DB level relatively low but still sound REALLY LOUD to our ears. If anything ppl usually use limiters in music to make things louder, paradoxically.
Tldr: limiters don't stop evil jerma nuke sounds.
It might if the lookahead is high enough and there's no attack on the limiter since there's a delay between the audio going out from OBS (so for DMC Jerma gets nuked and we get hit by a very compressed explosion)
@@2chickenmama while you're right, I imagine the limiters on jerma's stream aren't set anywhere near low enough that viewers actually get much in the way of relief from the explosion to catch a sound as loud and distorted as that from the DMC stream. Tbf I haven't tested it so I'm running of theory alone here but because the sound itself has a peak to average of basically 0, I can't imagine it'd be that much quieter than what we hear in the VOD. It might prevent your speakers from completely blowing though if you're watching on them.
@@2chickenmama p.s I love that I get to have this conversation in a jerma comment section thank you for existing :)
@@SophiesName for sure, the threshold was probably still 0db and with jerma not redlining when he streams it would definitely be an awful surprise for the viewers with the jump in dynamic range lol. Although I do wonder if twitch does any kind of audio normalisation on their end, that way we'd only get the occasional jumpscare instead of tinnitus
Also that's so nice ty!! the feeling is mutual, I'm glad I got to have this chat about preventing audio nukes lol
I'm an audio engineer. Loudness is very complicated and there's a lot of factors that contribute to it. One of the most important is crest factor, which is the ratio of peak to average signal. A limiter's primary use is to decrease the crest factor by lowering peaks, bringing them closer to the average level (decreasing dynamics). At the same time, they also add harmonic distortion which can make a sound louder by adding frequencies and filling out the spectrum (which doesn't affect dynamics). So while a sound might not be dynamic, it might still be loud because of its spectral content.
Something important but not normally talked about is how "loud" means the opposite of what most people mean when it comes to music. People normally call something loud when it's very dynamic, like a jumpscare or when an explosion happens in a movie. But in music when we say loud we mean LOW dynamics. By that metric something like a movie with a high dynamic range is actually very quiet.
I'm not surpised jerma's penguin looks like a chiseled stone god with luscious locks of hair straight from a shampoo commercial while ster's one probably loves to eat nutrition pellets
Oh yeah that must be because that penguin loves to eat bugs
34:52
"Let's wait for the wind"
"Uhhhhhh-huh"
...
"WOWOWOWOWOWW... WAOW... WWOAOWWW; *WOW!!* *WOW*"
"Cuhmahn, come aun"
_sounds of a rabid witch drowning in a vat of acid_
This year has been the best year for Jerma/ Ster content since 2014.
@27:00 Jerma states he's "on beats" and then starts smacking the table at his two-tick server timing
One must imagine Sisyphus in the meat grinder.
One must imagine Sisyphus probably dead
One must imagine Sysyphus‘ finger still intact
They're arguing like an old married couple
Like?
they are an old married couple
Seeing Jerma and Ster streaming together so much lately makes me so happy
this reminds me of listening to my parents passive aggressively fighting each other in front of company
There is nothing quite like the STAR_/Jerma dynamic. I missed this so much
One must imagine Jerma985 hinged and sane
one must imagine a psychopath taking his old friend as hostage in a bird jump game.
47:57 jerma smiling when he sees that ster and he are perfectly in sync is so cute, i can’t get over it
27:30 I have to agree with Ster. The confirmation is just more room for error, especially on platforms that crumble. The 321 already has you in sync, so pausing jeopardizes that sync thus leading to another potential for failure. If someone missed, then it's already messed up in that case.
I agree more with jerma. the slight pause gives time for the payer to plan a jump and be more accurate. i think if you're doing it at full speed that leaves more room for a player freaking out or not recognizing a jump and losing timing. as long as they can keep a good pattern like they did, i believe its a better strategy.
I can't believe the argument is going to last that long
@@dagreenllama8172 what more is there to plan when you already see where to jump before you start? You don’t want to be sitting on a crumbling platform and trying to change the plan mid jump.
I tuned in for the first hour and had to go, I thought this would be a game they play for an hour, get annoyed at, move on
But they did it, they reached the peek. Absolute god gamers.
i like the fact that they reached the "exhausted rage game player" phase like... a fifth of the way into the video
man i love watching stern and jermaine
Another good intro to this would have been the scene in Whiplash where JK Simmons made Miles Teller cry complaining about being "on my time"
when they were arguing about jerma timing vs gamer timing it sounded exactly like my grandparents every time one of them does something marginally resembling a mistake or fault
i appreciate the noise Jerma makes at 6:12
I love how he physically moves back when they make a big jump. This MANIAC doesn't even know the difference between the game and REAL LIFE!
i appreciate ster's remarkable strategy of counting from 1 to 1 and jumping on 1
5:40 I love how they both still remember the "bad program" bit from like 9 years ago
the whole thing around 23:30 feels like a Seinfeld bit, but I totally get it. Ster plays comp shooters so his reflexes and timings are much better than Jerma. Jerma is an old man who can't remember his own birthday and also he paints houses for fun. It's like when a kid has to slow down to explain how computers work to their mom.
Idk why but i forgot i clicked on jerma's video and seeing him at the bottom in full darkness made me laugh
You peeped the horror
42:26 the comedic timing of this whole scenario can’t be overstated, the meaty SMACK of them failing according to Star’s prediction is so perfect
I love watching two grown men, slowly descend into madness.
one must imagine sisyphus with a dent in his head
this made me laugh +2
i love ster explaining how the timer triggers jermas primitive ape brain to go and not stop, whilst jeremy is just mogging everyone in facecam
I didn't even have to scroll and we got:
* Imagine Sisyphus happy jokes
* Ultrakill jokes
* Sus jokes
* Mention of Corax's videos
* Ster
And the first words out of Jerma's mouth are "I have a limiter."
This is the best video ever made. You can retire.
Honestly them arguing about their timing philosophy was beautiful, both valid methods on how to do it but they fought ferociously, ster with his built in timing and jerma with his more rhythm based timing. Pause rep vs built in timing are good names for them.
35:45 Jerma insults a viewer
HAHAHAHAH TRUE IT'S THAT STREAM
35:10 - holy shit, the collection of sounds that came out of ster's mouth
I really think the name SisyphUS is genius and I'm sad noone else is commenting about it
Bread Fred Redemption
Jerma should do another baseball stream. maybe he can get 2 up this time?
hope he can sound the whole bat!
@@TurbopropPuppythat is positively foul
Just popping in to say this is one of your best video titles yet
6:12
psychopath pretends to feel emotion
19:30 and 34:53 are the two funniest clips of the year i think
i almost passed out at 34 i couldn't fucking breathe waow waow waow.. wow *witch cackling*
the porky pig stuttering and ster making angry animal noises
The screaming at 27:40 onwards is great
they're so cute together
the perfect couple
6:13 jerma makes a weird noise towards baby penguins
24:22 Ster just found out about human reaction time and network latency
Heartwarming how Ster still won't let Jerma live down his 'bad program' line from more than ten years ago.
timestamp plz :-)
He also referenced "No secrets over here?" from the Deep Rock Galactic stream
@@jillsandwitch67 5:42
@@joe____ I love how jerma never reciprocates the references because he probably doesnt remember half the things he says
@PaintraSeaPea He also like filters out half of everything he hears, truly our beloved ADHD Andy
23:30 - 28:50
Streamer parents arguing in front of their chat children.
built in timing
27:00 I've figured it out! Both of them are insane.
23:24 the moment the friendship broke
25:00 Ster learns jerma is Empathetic
Ster is so real for that Beton Brutal vs Only Up rant
Ster is Richie from the Bear. He’s abrasive and loud but he’s got a heart of gold. He also looks like him
is it weird that I loop this video in the background when i need to get work done. The soothing background music clashing with the argument over built-in timing is both calming and keeps me focused.
Fun fact
The thumbnail is a real photo of how they look IRL (in real life)
that's cool. the little box in the bottom right is actually gameplay, the rest is facecam.
what deos irl Mean?
@@KukHuve it says inside the parentheses
@@TheArKabZol oh tanks
Real?
watching them play together makes me feel like im watching my parents argue
Look at these two, how I've missed this
So good to have you two back together.
27:08 they’re literally going crazy
Nice to see Jerma really embracing his Jim Carrey arc
CUTENESS OVERLOAD 🗣️❗️
I've been obsessed with these long form edits recently! I prefer them compared to the super cuts
"hey guys, I think you should lean towards cooperation."
*Do you have a dent in your head?*
31:18 jerma timing evidence for the court
I thought i completely made jerma up in a nightmare. Could you imagine my horror when i found out that this creature was real?
Don't worry, this abomination is entirely AI generated. Nothing could be this incomprehensible!
I get what Jerma is saying with the multi jump timing. After playing Unraveled 2 and completing all the bonus areas. That "delay" is to make sure you constantly have your junps in sync.
One must imagine jerma oiled up and bustin it down
Contender for the worst noise of 2023 at 6:14
One must imagine the SUS GUY happy
I love watching marital disputes
He didnt add the part where he said "its our baby" 6:11
Jerma pushing that cart in Thunder Mountain but it falls back down
6:11
The specimen attempts emotion, should be fixed in the next patch
One must imagine Sisyphus as the Jump King
Im gonna have to agree with jerma here, I always jump, wait, jump to make sure I'm ready to jump and am able to make it.
Wow, I'd never heard of Beton Brutal before, but it's actually super cool looking. I do agree with Ster that it looks better than Only Up by a long ways. It's not just random stolen assets in a void, there is real level design. BTW, Only Up was taken down because it had so many stolen assets in it. It literally was a cheap asset flip game
A visitor... Mmmm... Indeed. I have slept long enough. The kingdom of Heaven has long since forgotten my name, and I am EAGER to make them remember. However, the blood of Minos stains your hands, and I must admit, I'm curious about your skills, Weapon. And so, before I tear down the cities, and crush the armies of Heaven... you, shall do as an appetizer. Come forth, child of man, and DIE.
Syphilis
"Uno dos tres"? Anybody knows the best callsign for them is always "coffee cheetos chicken".
I love how even with Ster there manages to be a 10 minute meltdown over "timing" that makes no sense at all.
0:17 he's fucking traumatized
I clicked on the video and got jumpscared by his facecam in the bottom right
One must imagine Jerma in love with Ster
I'm a simple man-I see Sterma, I click
The fact that everytime they fall Ster face plants is killing me 😭
Never forget this was the stream where Jerma verbally savaged one of his viewers for asking a simple question
To be fair, it’s an improvement from the dozens of times he’s “allegedly” physically savaged his viewers for the same thing
Never forget Jerma once ate an entire sleeve of Oreos and threw up in his mother's bed.
Do you have a dent in your head?