@ thank you for your reply at first, and unfortunately to hear but i’m wondering as well if they would in general reprint the first chapter globally. But we will see!
thanks so much for these videos. i would never know about these deals unless you tell me! i love these types of products as well, and i'm so happy Ravensburger makes these. i would love to grab one, but going to stores on Black Friday stores might be tough this year. fingers crossed!
I agree, a couple of low level chase cards (1 per 30 or 1 per 45) would be good. I wish the foils were a bit more random and had a small increase in power. It feels as though they are just aesthetic which is nice, but doesn't add for game play.
So, someone on the Reddit thread is saying that it’s actually ringing up for closer to $58. Still a great deal compared to where we are at with the prices, but just wanted to point that out from another source. We will see if it’s true on Sunday
I wonder how we find out which Targets are gonna carry this . I read on Fb that this was fake but I’d love to prove them wrong . I need some TFC cards in my life . I have all the other sets .
What is your thoughts on D23 2022 Prices. Would you buy into them right now? I see a lot of transactions happening. Wonder if I should bite it and grab the Elsa.
I purchased one about 45 days ago, so my actions would say yes, but obviously that's a significant investment, so you need to make that call! I think the only 1st edition cards in Lorcana are going to commands a VERY significant premium if Lorcana continues down the path its on.
To me the fact that we're in a low and the FC is still climbing tells me everything i need to know.. Next year when the hype around Worlds go off the chart Im expecting a huge surge in price setting a new floor for that set.
A little confused, so it runs from the 24-30th but stores will have them out on the 21st and 22nd? Are they just not available for purchase but get set out earlier then their run dates?
I am confused here as well, the dates don't make match up. I will prob just stop in a few times and see if I can find one, if I am being honest I probably won't get my hands on one for retail.
I'm so excited for this product! I was gonna go to the woods, but sounds like I will be hunting for some of these boxes lol I also would agree with the alt art conversation as well. It would be great if they took location/items and made those more alt arts and then have the enchanteds as characters only. Maybe keep the hit rate the same but make it to where you could potentially get both from 1 box or case. Opening a case and getting a $30 enchanted location is miserable. At that point, you have lost money on a case. Making it an alt art and still having both options available could help to increase price for both collectors and sellers
I think first chapter should still have at least one more large reprint, the game is still only its first year and people are already hoping for a spike in first chapter pricing. If the game is to truly grow long term, I think investors have to accept the early sets need to be printed into the ground to ensure the game is affordable and accessibly to a large audience. Ultimately the non holo legendaries and rares should never be over £10, which will allow accessibility for players, whilst the enchanteds and holos can hold the premium and appreciate over time. I have all the staples and cards I need from the first chapter but as someone who has crossed from pokemon, I know many people that consider lorcana to be too expensive and largely inaccessible to new players. Imho, if we truly want the game to go grow long term the narrative that reprints of the early sets aren’t wanted needs to change.
I think its fair to say that Lorcana is expensive to play when compared to Pokémon, but I also don't think an entire large reprint is not needed at this time. Many of the core first chapter cards are cheaper than ever and only four cards from the entire set are over $10 (all legendary's), one being over $20. This is an acceptable barrier to entry IMO. The game pieces shouldn't be worthless and four of a $11 card is within reason as a core piece of the deck.
personally I disagree. In my opinion, your point would be true if decks ran just 4 copies of a single expensive card but the reality is most top tier meta decks run 4 copies of multiple expensive cards from a variety of sets. On top of that, decks run lots of middle value cards, things like the 1 drop Lilo and maleficent from first chapter or Daisy Duck from shimmering skies, all of which contribute to the high cost of decks and the overall inaccessibility of the game. The average price of a deck is easily a couple of hundred and many decks cost significantly more. That is not an acceptable barrier for entry. If the game is to truly grow long term, people should be able to play the game competitively for under £100. The sets need a reprint so that cards like Rapunzel, Diablo, sad beast, etc. all become much cheaper and more accessible to a wider audience. This could be done in a number of ways such as special sets with reprints of the base rarities of meta staples, (think legendary collection or base set 2) pre-made decks or deck building products (plenty of examples in Pokémon) or entire set reprints. There are many solutions. But the simplest is to continue to print the first sets beyond demand. First chapter has strong fundamentals and will gradually gain value over time as the supply depletes, but short term (I.e. the next couple of years) you shouldn’t be able to walk into an LGS without falling over boxes of the first chapter.
I think a better idea would be to make structure decks that come competitive and affordable that can actually compete to an extent out of the box as an option for serious players in addition to a new set that include staples. they could even include new enchantment cards or something to chases since most people probably have the ones they want anyways. out of all the enchantments in packs the elsa is the only one that has a little bit of value anyways.
I think that creates an environment that is destined to fail. If new players get their hands on a booster box open it and have 20-30 dollars in cards to show for it just leads to feel bad
@@JoshDLFC Going to release a video specific to this topic today Josh. I think its polarizing and want to get everyone's thoughts. I disagree with your overall opinion, but I appreciate your insight and can definitely see where you are coming from. I didn't want you to feel like today's video was a jab at you by any means, just a great overall topic. Thanks again for your feedback!
I don't disagree that lorcana needs a box hit rarity, especially sense there are zero cards in this game with texture. As a player of the game I only care about the reprints because there are staple cards in set1. If they come out with premium championship decks that have playsets of Rapunzels then I wouldn't care if they never reprint set 1.
I know people who refuse to buy packs cause they either don’t know the actual pull rates or they open hundreds of packs to get a bunch of $2-$5 legendaries.
Rudy is a typical pump and dump influencer. Who didn’t know that a pikachu set or an eevee set would do well? Those sets would do good with or without his content. He creates a bigger demand because his followers are incompetent and have FOMO. Group mentality is crazy in the trading card world nowadays. Everyone just makes money off the sheeps who are consistently last trying to keep up with the group. When some fall off new sheepswill continue to join. 🤷🏻♂️
One youtuber doesn't account for the demand of millions of people. His videos barely get 100k views. Anyone paying attention to pokemon in the past 5 years looks at these products and knows it's an insta buy. Go figure when pokemon makes a product that everyone will want...everyone wants it... It has less to do with youtubers and more to do with the excellence of the upcoming sets.
Just say you’re gonna clear the shelf… says he has more than enough but will hunt these lol but sounds like he knew he should say he wanted new people to get in but we know that display will be cleared soon as he walks out… n that’s ok. But sheesh be honest
I have never once cleared the shelf of a product and would not do it here. Also will not be "hunting it". If we go by Target and there are some there, I will buy one, that's the truth.
love your videos its my daily lorcana news I'd like to hear what new decks you might be brewing n playtesting with azurite sea released the ones im tryin are .. Amber Steel aggro Ruby Steel Heroes maybe something Amethyst Steel My hot take is that yes Disney aint nearly as popular as Pokemon, but like any TCG, it comes down to supply and demand. and standing the test of time. I'm sort of tryin to slow down on collecting so I can afford grading in my opinion. Grading is one of the best investments in the TCG hobby. I just got one PSA return recently if you'd want to see I still think we should colab asap before holiday season gets busy @churmander
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LOVEEEE the first chapter black Friday deal. ill be going to target to try and pick one up myself.
Good luck!
I don’t see any advertisement and this product available in EU? Do we have any news regarding that?
@@DutchHard3rStylez I am only seeing/hearing news from NA stores 😢
@ thank you for your reply at first, and unfortunately to hear but i’m wondering as well if they would in general reprint the first chapter globally. But we will see!
still have my 3 amazon first chapter orders! was originally expected to ship around this time. wondering what will happen with those
They still haven’t shipped Matt?
Or been cancelled?
@@CardboardKingdom still have not shipped! Orders are still active
@ first I’ve heard of this, maybe you got lucky!
“These sets should be for new players!” **Has 30 TFC booster boxes in the closet**
And still admits he’s hunting these lol this is your community
i still have the first edition first wave booster box - problem is i have misplaced it and forgotten where it is.
Uh oh Cam lol
Lorcana is going to skyrocket along side Pokémon
thanks so much for these videos. i would never know about these deals unless you tell me! i love these types of products as well, and i'm so happy Ravensburger makes these. i would love to grab one, but going to stores on Black Friday stores might be tough this year. fingers crossed!
Agreed completely, hope I can snag one, but not getting my hopes up by any means.
Love your vibes as always Mike! Positive and practical, TALK TO EM
Also… when you say “enough first chapter”… I’ve never heard those words spoken in that order… it’s a concept I can’t comprehend Mike😂
@@BrentsQuest hahaha I mean.... can one ever have ENOUGH???
TY King, hope the fam is doing well!
I still do not see these online, and I've been to 5 stores so far with no luck
@@6thface we have seen verified displays in stores already pictures, however they are listed for $57.99 until the sale.
I agree, a couple of low level chase cards (1 per 30 or 1 per 45) would be good. I wish the foils were a bit more random and had a small increase in power. It feels as though they are just aesthetic which is nice, but doesn't add for game play.
So, someone on the Reddit thread is saying that it’s actually ringing up for closer to $58. Still a great deal compared to where we are at with the prices, but just wanted to point that out from another source. We will see if it’s true on Sunday
Just started collecting about a week ago so this is great news
Congrats good luck getting some First Chapter at a great price!
Update!!! My friend works at target. Some of those days are wrong! 25th is when they can sell them. Talk to your local target
Thank you for the info!
I wonder how we find out which Targets are gonna carry this . I read on Fb that this was fake but I’d love to prove them wrong . I need some TFC cards in my life . I have all the other sets .
I saw a clip that Best Buy is doing deep discounts on starter decks I think 7.99
Holy crap! Boxes are $350! I'm putting mine up on eBay tomorrow morning! I only paid $130
What is your thoughts on D23 2022 Prices. Would you buy into them right now? I see a lot of transactions happening. Wonder if I should bite it and grab the Elsa.
I purchased one about 45 days ago, so my actions would say yes, but obviously that's a significant investment, so you need to make that call!
I think the only 1st edition cards in Lorcana are going to commands a VERY significant premium if Lorcana continues down the path its on.
@ agreed. You think both PSA 9 and 10’s?
@@LorcanaGuru2324 best value no doubt a 9, but a 10 is going to be probably 6x its price.
If’s not an easy grade.
The first chapter dont need a reprint, this product is very good, Ravensburger doing a really good job
To me the fact that we're in a low and the FC is still climbing tells me everything i need to know.. Next year when the hype around Worlds go off the chart Im expecting a huge surge in price setting a new floor for that set.
@@TcgStrategist couldn’t agree more Manny, extremely excited for 2025!
A little confused, so it runs from the 24-30th but stores will have them out on the 21st and 22nd? Are they just not available for purchase but get set out earlier then their run dates?
@@ThEoNeAnDoNlYmE0 probably gonna sit in back until the stocking dates would be my guess.
I am confused here as well, the dates don't make match up.
I will prob just stop in a few times and see if I can find one, if I am being honest I probably won't get my hands on one for retail.
The full arts that they've done would be a perfect mid range.
I’m buying at least 3 😂
I'm so excited for this product! I was gonna go to the woods, but sounds like I will be hunting for some of these boxes lol
I also would agree with the alt art conversation as well. It would be great if they took location/items and made those more alt arts and then have the enchanteds as characters only. Maybe keep the hit rate the same but make it to where you could potentially get both from 1 box or case. Opening a case and getting a $30 enchanted location is miserable. At that point, you have lost money on a case. Making it an alt art and still having both options available could help to increase price for both collectors and sellers
Haha looks like its cards and store bought meat this winter!
What about UK?
@@rikothepenguin that I’m not sure of Riko!
I think first chapter should still have at least one more large reprint, the game is still only its first year and people are already hoping for a spike in first chapter pricing.
If the game is to truly grow long term, I think investors have to accept the early sets need to be printed into the ground to ensure the game is affordable and accessibly to a large audience.
Ultimately the non holo legendaries and rares should never be over £10, which will allow accessibility for players, whilst the enchanteds and holos can hold the premium and appreciate over time.
I have all the staples and cards I need from the first chapter but as someone who has crossed from pokemon, I know many people that consider lorcana to be too expensive and largely inaccessible to new players.
Imho, if we truly want the game to go grow long term the narrative that reprints of the early sets aren’t wanted needs to change.
I think its fair to say that Lorcana is expensive to play when compared to Pokémon, but I also don't think an entire large reprint is not needed at this time.
Many of the core first chapter cards are cheaper than ever and only four cards from the entire set are over $10 (all legendary's), one being over $20.
This is an acceptable barrier to entry IMO.
The game pieces shouldn't be worthless and four of a $11 card is within reason as a core piece of the deck.
personally I disagree. In my opinion, your point would be true if decks ran just 4 copies of a single expensive card but the reality is most top tier meta decks run 4 copies of multiple expensive cards from a variety of sets. On top of that, decks run lots of middle value cards, things like the 1 drop Lilo and maleficent from first chapter or Daisy Duck from shimmering skies, all of which contribute to the high cost of decks and the overall inaccessibility of the game.
The average price of a deck is easily a couple of hundred and many decks cost significantly more. That is not an acceptable barrier for entry.
If the game is to truly grow long term, people should be able to play the game competitively for under £100.
The sets need a reprint so that cards like Rapunzel, Diablo, sad beast, etc. all become much cheaper and more accessible to a wider audience.
This could be done in a number of ways such as special sets with reprints of the base rarities of meta staples, (think legendary collection or base set 2) pre-made decks or deck building products (plenty of examples in Pokémon) or entire set reprints. There are many solutions.
But the simplest is to continue to print the first sets beyond demand. First chapter has strong fundamentals and will gradually gain value over time as the supply depletes, but short term (I.e. the next couple of years) you shouldn’t be able to walk into an LGS without falling over boxes of the first chapter.
I think a better idea would be to make structure decks that come competitive and affordable that can actually compete to an extent out of the box as an option for serious players in addition to a new set that include staples. they could even include new enchantment cards or something to chases since most people probably have the ones they want anyways. out of all the enchantments in packs the elsa is the only one that has a little bit of value anyways.
I think that creates an environment that is destined to fail. If new players get their hands on a booster box open it and have 20-30 dollars in cards to show for it just leads to feel bad
@@JoshDLFC Going to release a video specific to this topic today Josh. I think its polarizing and want to get everyone's thoughts.
I disagree with your overall opinion, but I appreciate your insight and can definitely see where you are coming from.
I didn't want you to feel like today's video was a jab at you by any means, just a great overall topic.
Thanks again for your feedback!
I don't disagree that lorcana needs a box hit rarity, especially sense there are zero cards in this game with texture. As a player of the game I only care about the reprints because there are staple cards in set1. If they come out with premium championship decks that have playsets of Rapunzels then I wouldn't care if they never reprint set 1.
I know people who refuse to buy packs cause they either don’t know the actual pull rates or they open hundreds of packs to get a bunch of $2-$5 legendaries.
That is fair, no one likes burning money.
Buying singles is always the most cost efficient way to do the hobby.
I've opened around 400 packs and only have 2 enchanted pulls
Rudy is a typical pump and dump influencer. Who didn’t know that a pikachu set or an eevee set would do well? Those sets would do good with or without his content. He creates a bigger demand because his followers are incompetent and have FOMO. Group mentality is crazy in the trading card world nowadays. Everyone just makes money off the sheeps who are consistently last trying to keep up with the group. When some fall off new sheepswill continue to join. 🤷🏻♂️
@@kly1994 the hobby is growing no doubt, lots of new people coming in constantly to be sold too.
One youtuber doesn't account for the demand of millions of people. His videos barely get 100k views. Anyone paying attention to pokemon in the past 5 years looks at these products and knows it's an insta buy.
Go figure when pokemon makes a product that everyone will want...everyone wants it...
It has less to do with youtubers and more to do with the excellence of the upcoming sets.
oh, wish RB sent this to Wallmart. Canada doesn’t have Target anymore.
That stinks Sam - they have a pretty deep partnership with Target and I don't see that changing.
Not $100… $110
@@BIGmechD what do you mean?
Of course Rudy talks bad about Lorcana, it's taking value and interest away from Magic Flesh and Blood
The scalpers are gonna be out for this & Pokémon $20 etbs & Taylor swift garbage 😂 FOMO has taken over completely
Not a Swiftie Jose?!?!?!?
You are going to buy some, so don't be a hypocrite.
I will buy one if I come across it, I will not be waiting at the doors or filling up a shopping cart, that I can guartunee.
Oh, I'm absolutely throwing hands with some scalpers in the next few days 😂
@@davidrojas6457 hahaha let em have it David!
Just say you’re gonna clear the shelf… says he has more than enough but will hunt these lol but sounds like he knew he should say he wanted new people to get in but we know that display will be cleared soon as he walks out… n that’s ok. But sheesh be honest
I have never once cleared the shelf of a product and would not do it here. Also will not be "hunting it".
If we go by Target and there are some there, I will buy one, that's the truth.
love your videos
its my daily lorcana news
I'd like to hear what new decks you might be brewing n playtesting with azurite sea released
the ones im tryin are ..
Amber Steel aggro
Ruby Steel Heroes
maybe something Amethyst Steel
My hot take is that yes Disney aint nearly as popular as Pokemon,
but like any TCG, it comes down to supply and demand. and standing the test of time.
I'm sort of tryin to slow down on collecting so I can afford grading
in my opinion. Grading is one of the best investments in the TCG hobby.
I just got one PSA return recently if you'd want to see
I still think we should colab asap before holiday season gets busy
@churmander