At the level I play, definitely not - even if my move was a massive blunder, there's always a chance that my opponent might not realise it. The higher you go, the less chance there is of that happening, but it's still not impossible - a while back Anand was playing Mamedyarov, made a blunder and resigned. Mamedyarov wasn't even at the board when Anand made the move, so he was a bit surprised to get back and find his opponent resigning! The refutation was far from obvious, so it was certainly worth at least waiting for the opponent's response before resigning. Anand commented afterwards that the resignation was the second blunder he made in succession!
I like annoying my opponent when I don't resign because they panic and lose.😎 That reminds me of a vacation where I was playing against my older brother and he was winning. He told me to resign because I had no hope. But no, I was so hopeful and at the end I got a Queen and won as Black. He told me that I should have resigned because he was chasing me with so many pieces like: 2 Bishops, 1 Knight, 1 Rook. He told me to offer him a Draw because that was unfair. Our father told us when we were playing to go to a shop buying some stuff but I didn't resign.
@@escapedlunatic27 I think if you're not a top level player, it helps to take the position you had when you resigned, put it into a top level chess engine, and have the computer take over for you while you continue as your opponent. Sure, you do not and will never play on Stockfish's level, but it's still helpful to visualize that turning your position around was at least possible (unless it was a forced mate of course).
Independent from that particular game, I think the general answer to the question "Why do players resign?" is that there is both a certain dignity and a proof of skill in recognizing a hopeless position. The act of resigning proves that you saw and were able to calculate your inevitable defeat. I'm assuming that's why so many grandmaster level competitive games end in resignation rather than checkmate.
I think that is a good point! There is definitely a dignity component to is. I assume one doesn't want to insult the opponent by playing on in a hopeless position. Thank you for watching! :)
I think the reason they resigned is that they simply overlooked that after Qxf2 Kh3 Rh6+ Qxh6 that they could even take with the pawn and create an escape square, and instead thought they had to take the rook on b8 to prevent mate, so Rxb8 Qxh7+ Kf8 Qh8+ Ke7 Qxb8 and that they would be down a piece.
Your explanation sounds correct. After Qxh6 there is the threat of taking on h7. Obviously you can't take the queen - previously taking it led to checkmate, so now it also will. Alexey Suetin wrote about this in a book, he called this roughly translated "the remaining picture", here the remainder is that after taking the queen Black is checkmated. In the mind of the player this holds true not only now but also in the future.
Thanks for your insight! That sounds like a cool book. It is interesting to think about how we calculate and the little things we tend to miss (even at the highest levels). 🙂
That is a good question! White would be winning in that position. There is a *super* nice tactic! Black can exchange the rooks and play Bxp+!. If the king moves, it will be mate; if the rook takes, the queen is unprotected. I should have shown that line because of how cool it is! 🙂
Would you ever resign *_after_* your move but *_before_* your opponent's move? 🤔
At the level I play, definitely not - even if my move was a massive blunder, there's always a chance that my opponent might not realise it. The higher you go, the less chance there is of that happening, but it's still not impossible - a while back Anand was playing Mamedyarov, made a blunder and resigned. Mamedyarov wasn't even at the board when Anand made the move, so he was a bit surprised to get back and find his opponent resigning! The refutation was far from obvious, so it was certainly worth at least waiting for the opponent's response before resigning. Anand commented afterwards that the resignation was the second blunder he made in succession!
I like annoying my opponent when I don't resign because they panic and lose.😎
That reminds me of a vacation where I was playing against my older brother and he was winning.
He told me to resign because I had no hope. But no, I was so hopeful and at the end I got a Queen and won as Black.
He told me that I should have resigned because he was chasing me with so many pieces like: 2 Bishops, 1 Knight, 1 Rook.
He told me to offer him a Draw because that was unfair.
Our father told us when we were playing to go to a shop buying some stuff but I didn't resign.
@@escapedlunatic27 I think if you're not a top level player, it helps to take the position you had when you resigned, put it into a top level chess engine, and have the computer take over for you while you continue as your opponent. Sure, you do not and will never play on Stockfish's level, but it's still helpful to visualize that turning your position around was at least possible (unless it was a forced mate of course).
@@farouqbaiti4315 Sounds like he knew you were better, and tried to win via psychological games. Good on you for pwning him.
I know right!😏
Independent from that particular game, I think the general answer to the question "Why do players resign?" is that there is both a certain dignity and a proof of skill in recognizing a hopeless position. The act of resigning proves that you saw and were able to calculate your inevitable defeat. I'm assuming that's why so many grandmaster level competitive games end in resignation rather than checkmate.
I think that is a good point! There is definitely a dignity component to is. I assume one doesn't want to insult the opponent by playing on in a hopeless position. Thank you for watching! :)
According to Tim Krabbe, Turi didn't see that an escape square would be made with the taking of the white queen. Yes.
It is interesting to see what some overlook when calculating. I am certain I overlook a lot. 🤣Thanks for watching!
I think the reason they resigned is that they simply overlooked that after Qxf2 Kh3 Rh6+ Qxh6 that they could even take with the pawn and create an escape square, and instead thought they had to take the rook on b8 to prevent mate, so Rxb8 Qxh7+ Kf8 Qh8+ Ke7 Qxb8 and that they would be down a piece.
I think you are right! It can be tough to see that in one's calculation. Thank you for watching!
Your explanation sounds correct. After Qxh6 there is the threat of taking on h7. Obviously you can't take the queen - previously taking it led to checkmate, so now it also will.
Alexey Suetin wrote about this in a book, he called this roughly translated "the remaining picture", here the remainder is that after taking the queen Black is checkmated. In the mind of the player this holds true not only now but also in the future.
Thanks for your insight! That sounds like a cool book. It is interesting to think about how we calculate and the little things we tend to miss (even at the highest levels). 🙂
@@ChessforCharity I don't think the book ever was translated to English. In German it is named "Typische Fehler".
Good to know!
If Kh3 then he thought he could only play Qf1 and he would take anyway because he's still on a verge of being checkmated.
Yeah, that could have been it! Thanks for watching!
I had resigned too. I usually resign after my opponent gets one pawn, specially when he got a rating over 2000 😟
I get that! It can be tough to fight back when playing a really strong player. Thank you for watching! :)
Probably tournament sponsor gave huge cash prize for last place.
Haha, that is an idea. 🤣
@ChessforCharity But if you try it then some of your opponents will outresign you by yelling to resign faster and louder than you can
Black did not resign in this game. White did, and the result was keyed in wrongly in the chess databases.
If that is true, I didn't know that at all!
QXf2+, Kh3. What about just the simple Kf8? No more back rank mate.
That is a good question! White would be winning in that position. There is a *super* nice tactic! Black can exchange the rooks and play Bxp+!. If the king moves, it will be mate; if the rook takes, the queen is unprotected. I should have shown that line because of how cool it is! 🙂