Damage Support vs Healing Support

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  • @evanharjanto2450
    @evanharjanto2450 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +373

    evil awkward be like : HEALING HEALING HEALING, enemy go forward we go forward, enemy go backward we go backward, NEVER OFF ANGLE

    • @mazomort4127
      @mazomort4127 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is it evil Awkward who would say that or Awkward is already evil and that's what the good Awkward would say ?

  • @matekotyinszki8653
    @matekotyinszki8653 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +723

    Awkward staying behind his team and healing is the most cursed thing I've ever seen in my life

    • @slashergasher1388
      @slashergasher1388 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And that’s why you’re in gold

    • @messikis9828
      @messikis9828 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      @@slashergasher1388bro u need to understand what he said

    • @Cund
      @Cund 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      ​@@slashergasher1388And this is why you're in silver.

    • @ezdragon9370
      @ezdragon9370 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What bro is on ​@@slashergasher1388

    • @EvelynVioletEverlight
      @EvelynVioletEverlight 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      In an alternate dimension awkwards out there going “healing healing healing, you want to constantly avoid off angles and walk into plain view so you have line of sight to apply healing to your team”

  • @alexquitty809
    @alexquitty809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    0:20 Kiri average
    3:02 Kiri Awkward's way
    6:25 Moira average
    12:22 Moira Awkward's way
    15:20 Ana average
    19:31 Ana Awkward's way
    22:57 Zen average
    28:26 Zen Awkward's way
    32:58 Lucio average
    35:30 Lucio Awkward's way
    39:36 Bap average
    44:25 Bap Awkward's way
    49:47 Lifeweaver as it is

    • @shimadamada9929
      @shimadamada9929 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ty ❤

    • @chaos9790
      @chaos9790 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ty

    • @JayFly-u2g
      @JayFly-u2g 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No mercy sad

    • @btvl27
      @btvl27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JayFly-u2gor my main Brig

  • @stevent2671
    @stevent2671 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

    We need a series titled "Rank-down academy" where your alter ego 'Charming' pretty much just enables and applauds every stupid decision a player makes while coaching them.

    • @king_fresh27
      @king_fresh27 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      lmao

    • @hawwndawg
      @hawwndawg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ‘Charming’ 😂😂😂😂

    • @G_gold_
      @G_gold_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i love that

    • @Mostly-Nuts
      @Mostly-Nuts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bringing this comment back into existence, I need to see more “charming” lol

  • @comedyvibez3892
    @comedyvibez3892 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Like moria says when you kill someone "theres a time to heal, and theres a time to kill"

  • @LagannFitzgeraldCh
    @LagannFitzgeraldCh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    It's so funny that Awkward tries to play bad but actually plays decent/above average cause subconsciously he is fundamentally good and there's no counter to playing fundamentally good

  • @rivenspeedruns
    @rivenspeedruns 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    I think the reason you won a decent bit on both playstyles is you still have really good uptime even when healbotting. As long as your doing something productive 99% of the time it gives you a lead over people who arent.

    • @ir0316
      @ir0316 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Can’t forget having a good team lmao 😂

    • @DxXNA
      @DxXNA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Well he also has good positioning, ult usage, and ability tracking so even if he's not saying he's doing any of that he is so at very least he should stay alive in more cases and initiate the fights better then most people would, except maybe when he's deliberately showing a bad position or play situation to be in.

    • @Apenn_73
      @Apenn_73 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Or maybe because he's playing in plat as a rank 1 support player...

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@DxXNA Exactly. One of the easiest way to tell is how Awkward disengages fights, where most metal supports would just stay in their position forever and inevitably die - meaning they have guaranteed 10 second downtime during respawn, and then another 15 seconds walking back from spawn, then 5 secs setting up in a position again, basically every lost fight Awkward gains 30 seconds of uptime potential just because he disengages well - even with a healbot playstyle that will amount for a lot of value over the course of a match.

    • @error404webpagenotfound
      @error404webpagenotfound 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@Real_MisterSirI'll never understand why people don't disengage a lost fight or run into one alone. Like what is going through their head? "Yes I'm gonna pop off and win this fight by myself." I've even tried to heal people and keep them alive to disengage with me and they usually think I'm doing it to help them engage, then they get mad bc I dipped on them. When I tell them I was doing it so we could both disengage they called me stupid, I think we both know who the stupid one is...

  • @Cund
    @Cund 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    From 23:55 to 24:25 , this was comedy.
    Ulting winston missing swings on a zen who is an inch away from him
    Ulting soldier jumping out into the open and getting killed mid air by a single shot from zen
    Winston jumping back in for round 2 without his ult, only to immediatly die to a kick
    And finally the mercy falling off the map after miscalculating a guardian angel

    • @demartiger
      @demartiger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      average plat game for you 😭 i can confirm

  • @Cuddlingus
    @Cuddlingus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This actually low key helped a little, I don't know when to flank and off angle and every game I lose I feel like I had no impact or heal botted

  • @advikdeshmukh805
    @advikdeshmukh805 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    That lucio was so butthurt it's hilarious. And I'm sure he is probably a very good driver in his totally real McLaren

  • @6kades
    @6kades 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    Alternative title: Not trying vs Blatant smurfing

    • @mindyourtruth
      @mindyourtruth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Your life motto, no skills lots of talk.

    • @EI_Greko
      @EI_Greko 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

    • @vbeeraba2789
      @vbeeraba2789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      like him or hate him, i went from gold to masters because of him playing bap lucio.
      edit, just checked and it was from Bronze to Masters (Quick play demon, did placements with Bronze friends). But still made it out of plat easily because of him.

    • @Mostly-Nuts
      @Mostly-Nuts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mindyourtruthlighten up

  • @bhouri
    @bhouri 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I am from Brazil and work as an emergency doctor and found your channel 2 years ago. You are not only educational and entertaining towards the game, but inspirational to use the game as an analogy towards success on other aspects of our daily routine. As a guy who advertise and practice those teachings as well in my work and in my basketball hobbies (i teach the fundamentals of the sport in my community), is so refreshing seeing my believes of hard work, accountability, having fun and supporting those around you, being implemented in the game I love, by a champion of it. Your content reafirmes my values while also keeps me entertained, even when i am in my lowest hours. Really, really thank you a lot.

    • @robertfreeman2889
      @robertfreeman2889 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      belo comentário, acompanho ele pela mesma razão!
      greetings from Brazil, awkward!

  • @________John__________
    @________John__________ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    The Dialg 1v1 was hard to watch honestly. homie was embarrassing himself so bad.

    • @tripanzo
      @tripanzo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      ”the better lucio lost” bro is delusional💀

    • @Miggy19779
      @Miggy19779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      ​@@tripanzoawkward later invited him in a 1v1 on Lucio. Awkward annihilated him 7-0. It was cringe watching that guy.

    • @________John__________
      @________John__________ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@Miggy19779 Yeah I watched on stream and I was just sad watching him unfold. Hopefully, he learns from that defeat but I assume he won't.

    • @IZenI00
      @IZenI00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@________John__________Learns what tho tbh. Watching somebody who plays for a living smurf and tbag was off putting. Also i mean the whole beef started cuz his team complained he was getting diffed, and ofc he would, awk is smurfing.

    • @________John__________
      @________John__________ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@IZenI00 True that Awk was just smurfing here. However, Dialg had a huge inflated ego and was convinced he was the better player even though he was getting diffed. Part of becoming better is accepting you are not as good as you think. This could have been a good moment for Dialg to suck up his pride and admit earned defeat. Instead, he continued to act like a child.

  • @davidkamps9879
    @davidkamps9879 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ive played a bit of ranked this season. Mostly as lifeweaver. The projectile changes made shooting with him more consistent. You still need to heal a lot but your playstyle depends on the enemy comp. If there’s a lot of dive you either need to focus on killing the people diving you or denying them when they dive your team. If the enemy is playing widow you basically have to go kill her because pull is invalidated by one shots. The character feels good so long as the enemy team is playing a comp you can use your cooldowns against.

  • @JoseJFB
    @JoseJFB 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The only thing you got wrong is the Plat Lucio.
    Those usually dive alone and die off immediately because they thought they were eskay lol

    • @triplet5375
      @triplet5375 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      or frogger, also i am one of them lul

    • @h2o684
      @h2o684 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Took a page out of the Rein book, and Burnt the rest of the pages

  • @amyc.2518
    @amyc.2518 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Love your videos! As a girl, shotcalling isn't the most effective tip for me(I've been told to shut up by men in bronze-plat more times than I can count), but I can always count on you for useful advice

    • @stephenmoore5390
      @stephenmoore5390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Shut up.
      ... Just kidding. You are killing it. :D

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is why i never comm, unless i have a friend/duo with me. but sadly most of my friends moved on from the game

    • @엉덩이먹는사람
      @엉덩이먹는사람 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shut up

    • @ender5892
      @ender5892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're the reason she doesn't talk on​ voice lmao @@stephenmoore5390

    • @BoxyMoxyNoxy
      @BoxyMoxyNoxy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TamWam_ I believe there are a lot who won't be toxic like little children about it. Just keep the coms simple like reporting a flank and mute when toxicity accrue

  • @jesspeachie
    @jesspeachie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lmao "Guys, what happened?". He's too good at this.

  • @sunofabeach9424
    @sunofabeach9424 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    so it doesn't really matter if you are healbotting or doing damage as long as you are playing against much weaker opponents (unless you are deliberately trolling like with bap)

  • @thetacog
    @thetacog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    the ring around the rosy with the roadhog had me DYING laughing

  • @ish6676
    @ish6676 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    he can’t even show how healbotters play because he’s too good. so his normal playstyle and positioning is way above average. that’s why when he healbots he still wins. but healbotting at low ranks with bad positioning and games sense is why people are stuck in low ranks. by doing damage and taking his advice i went from hardstuck silver to high diamond.

  • @Alexyes132
    @Alexyes132 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Should have replace his entire commentary by "healing before the fight" "my teams moves foward I move backwards" and stuff like that it would have been so funny

  • @visionary4787
    @visionary4787 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Ever since i found this gem of a channel, ive started to appreciate all the little things in life, just wanna say thanks for making these man. You probably will never see this but this channel is awesome and i watch every vid. No ads too is insane! Keep it up broski

  • @alexr6068
    @alexr6068 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Gold 3 here, I've never seen a lifeweaver deal more than 900 damage in a game.

    • @eldiandevil
      @eldiandevil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should play with me then 😎

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      flashback to when i played lifeweaver as a joke and got 31 elims and i forgot how much dmg but i was surprised myself 💀 thats more than my best game on kiriko

  • @Jordan-dg8tp
    @Jordan-dg8tp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A lot of people think - man, I have healing abilities, so that's what I need to do.
    If you do enough damage the enemy team has to back up, you have to do LESS healing overall since there is less resources being put into your team. If they look at you and not your tank, your tank is not dying. Your DPS can peek a bit wider, it is a better experience all around.

  • @jotarora9310
    @jotarora9310 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Evil awkward be like : "I love lifeweaver"

    • @DrDemolition
      @DrDemolition 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      evil awkward be like: you're looking very healable my guy

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@DrDemolition Evil awkward be like "I will nade my ally so they get amplified healing"

    • @DrDemolition
      @DrDemolition 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Real_MisterSir evil awkward be like: heal, heal, heal

  • @alexr6068
    @alexr6068 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    13:01 Is that.. Sombra BEGGING for heals just standing there? What in the world...

    • @theyneverlearn3679
      @theyneverlearn3679 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's really odd. I'm bronze rn but even when I play as Sombra I HATE when my supports try to heal me because it exposes my position to enemies and I can just go to the health packs to heal if I'm not in combat.

  • @Cybah
    @Cybah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the most entertaining OW videos i ever watched despite barely any editing, awkward you really got a great entertainer / teacher personality, you're like that cool teacher back in hs who teaches you 3x the shit other teachers do while still keeping it fun and entertaining.

  • @LaSkouille
    @LaSkouille 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    To wrap it up, in order to improve : stay unemployed and play 8 hours a day for 6 years

    • @sunofabeach9424
      @sunofabeach9424 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      also pay to a streamer for coaching

    • @truuskikomo5227
      @truuskikomo5227 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Ok, maybe to get top 50 ish and find everything out yourself then yes/no depending on your ability to learn fast, but from gold to masters with a fulltime job you only need a youtube video explaining how to climb as support and skip the part where you try find reasons this doesn’t work in your rank. Took me 3 weeks. Ill at least called that improved 😬

    • @IchumaruOwO
      @IchumaruOwO 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I work and still find time to practice the game. Nobody says you have to give your life to the game to get better. You just have to put actual effort into the game and be willing to learn. Stop standing out in the open, rotate more, follow Awkwards advice and stop whining.

    • @8UMadBro8
      @8UMadBro8 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Plenty of people are good & have a life. I work 60 hours a week & just play to unwind but make top500. You just have to change your mindset

    • @DyingBreed8
      @DyingBreed8 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U need good mental and physical health as well

  • @tronicalli7587
    @tronicalli7587 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    8:34 no matter how many times a doom or bastion ults, they always fall for the fake afk. I do it all the time on echo and it's such a fun way to counter their ults 😂

  • @liammbiscwit
    @liammbiscwit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think the heal botting only worked in those ranks because the players are so bad at survivability. They literally rely on heals to do anything because no fundamentals, so when you dont heal bot your team die more

  • @Real_MisterSir
    @Real_MisterSir 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The avg player will look at this and say "but you can only play like that because you have good mechanics"
    - and they would be right! But more crucially, the fact that they're right just highlights that they are simply not mechanically adept enough to effectively rank up, but with this playstyle now they're at least aware of it, unlike healbotting where you never actually have to confront your real issues and shortcomings as a player.
    You can hold M1 in the general direction of your team as Kiri all you want, there won't be a difference between a bronze and a gm in that regard. Takes no skill. And because it takes no skill, it also doesn't punish you for bad plays, whereas if you're playing with Awkward's approach then you either hit your shots or you don't. There's no grey zone of thinking you're better than you are.
    The avg player thinks they're way better than they are, and they're afraid to apply playstyles that forces them to confront their true weaknesses, because then they'd actually have to do work to rank up, rather than just blame their team and throw a fit on reddit.

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fr, i try aggressive playstyles and fail cause of aim, but i mean what other way to improve than to fail first? the only thing is, when i play widow i usually do good but i have off-days, including today, and it sucks 😭 i wish i knew how to not have off days

  • @nars_bars8774
    @nars_bars8774 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    13:00 i seriously hate players like this sombra where they could easily go and grab a health pack (in this case she literally could have hacked the mini and healed herself). they think im not aware of them but they dont realize that im just ignoring them because its not my job to top them off when there are more important things to be doing lol

  • @areweevensomeoneoutthere
    @areweevensomeoneoutthere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Who did the sojourn focus the entire team? me" Well yes, you are the healer...

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but since soj was turned around chasing kiri, his team could walk up and kill soj

  • @Supremesayain99
    @Supremesayain99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Peeps might actually use the lost and win as you doing the wrong thing 😂

    • @reddd-77
      @reddd-77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      it is funny tho how he won doing healbot and lost even after carrying

    • @SherryDC
      @SherryDC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@reddd-77 yea sample size can be a bitch and half

  • @FreekHoekstra
    @FreekHoekstra 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dat lucio lmaaao talk about fragile ego man xD

  • @kurbs7540
    @kurbs7540 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    first 2 games show sometimes you still loose no matter how hard you try

  • @saturn_slow7243
    @saturn_slow7243 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    even ml7 has said he has had a higher win rate by healing this season because of the dps passive he made a similar video by playing every support and seeing what works

  • @raveneye2030
    @raveneye2030 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Bro have you ever heard of a RANK GAP you are playing against plats, don't get me wrong I understand why you teach what you teach but In high rank lobbies are you still going to risk your life as a support for an off-angle knowing that they have a genji wich can basically delete you and I'm talking about Zenyata/ana here who doesn't really have an escape ability

    • @shadow_sprite1006
      @shadow_sprite1006 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has when he played zen against ow streamers and high elo players

  • @TheLeboIllusion11
    @TheLeboIllusion11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I recently started playing overwatch. around the same time i found your videos. They all helped me a ton, especially with my fundamentals. i have 24 hrs in comp. I have so far gotten to plat 2 on tank, plat 2 on Dmg and Gold 1 on Support. i dont have much games on support tho so i should be able to get that up soon! Thanks for the great videos.

    • @takovbk
      @takovbk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don’t be discouraged by your rank, although it is below average for sure, watching awkward videos will help you climb as it did with me!

  • @tehJimmyy
    @tehJimmyy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:18 are we not gonna talk about how smooth that transition was

  • @loogendary6786
    @loogendary6786 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    one of the problems with damaging more in lower ranks is that your team will die bcs they take way more dmg than higher rank tanks/dps so you're kinda forced to heal bot in lower ranks

  • @ordln4ry
    @ordln4ry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the way you ended the video linking to real life stuff and instilling positive vibes! Rock on🎉

  • @BoehseToene
    @BoehseToene 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    27:05 that genji hahahaha and the ash right afterwards was hilarious XD wtf is going on~

  • @segakiler
    @segakiler 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Bro an average player can't hit 90% headshots tho I get what you mean buy they'll be giving more value to healbotting by not flanking and getting melted for missing 3 headshots in a row every time.

    • @shadow_sprite1006
      @shadow_sprite1006 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except that's not how you get better, they won't hit 100% of their shots if they don't even try to shoot.

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the only thing is idk how/when to engage and when to stop. when i go on flanks as kiri or zen, everyone looks at me and im forced to suzu or tp out (or trans as zen), so i have less time off-angling. ofc survivability is good, im really good at disengaging, but sometimes i disengage too much even when smth is winnable and end up losing cause i ran away

    • @shadow_sprite1006
      @shadow_sprite1006 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @TamWam_ that just comes down to experience once you do it alot and look at why it worked and why it didn't you start to become more consistent and notice I said consistent not perfect its not going to work out 100% or even 80% but 50% - 60% is good enough to rank up and than that percentage will go higher as you get better.

  • @ubemvuossas665
    @ubemvuossas665 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I'm gonna be honest, with all this "dmg dmg dmg" and "sure you might not hit the same shots that I do" I'd be genuinely interested in something like bap or ana unranked to gm with a controller (since ow on pc has no aim assist afaik), sure the fundamentals are important and positioning is important too, but sometimes I genuinely feel like some matches you pop off so hard it's unreasonable for anyone to get to that level without dedicating to the game religiously like a full time job (last zen video for example).
    From my point of view I watch a lot of people stuck in metal ranks playing similarly to what awkward says, I didn't know he was that popular before this tbh, yet he still believes in "the reason you're in gold is because of your fundamentals", and I genuinely wonder how do these people apply these things pretty decently in matches yet seem stuck or just really miserable stats compared to awkward. (And I know, they might have some flaws, or some part of the fundamentals are not being applied correctly or whatever might be the nitpick, that's exactly why I'm interested in awkward, supposedly perfect fundamentals guy, to do this)
    I don't play the game myself, just recently caught some interest, and I like what awkward says about it, but at some point he HAS to take into account the amount of damage you are able to feasably replicate yourself, the pressure on the enemy team awkward puts out is actually something I barely see anywhere else, trying to hit shots is better than doing nothing but at what point is mechanical skill actually more important than fundamentals?

    • @FeverBonus
      @FeverBonus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're really well informed for someone who doesn't play the game! What drew you to this content? Why don't you play yourself?

    • @ubemvuossas665
      @ubemvuossas665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FeverBonus I find these fun to watch, and a ton of the tactics that some of these streamers talk about sound a lot like JRPG playthroughs, kind of interesting to hear them say something, then completely make it happen as if it was turn based and already planned the turns. However I feel like he always talks about the methods but never the execution, it's like saying "walk" to a baby, they might've seen someone walk before, they probably understand what needs to happen, but the baby is not exactly as "talented" to just start walking without dedicating a year to learn how to, and even then it won't be able to walk for long or even run.
      I used to see overwatch here and there before 2 was released, but it was always like competitions with very technical commentary, so it was very hard to follow and eventually stopped seeing it, it appeared on my feed again one day, a video from a guy explaining the new 5v5 formula, and putting into simple "strategy" type of speech, so I kinda kept watching, then character guides that explained how to play as group, what works/doesn't, it felt completely different than watching a competitive stream with no commentary, so I got drawn into it.
      I started playing the game actually few days after this comment, I don't take it as seriously as these streamers, so I'm not exactly tryharding the concepts they talk about and honestly I still don't know what I'm doing most of the time because it can get a bit overwhelming at times so much stuff going on, but I keep them in mind, I still stand by my desire for him to completely hinder his mechanical skill, I watch from time to time and he pops off so hard some rounds and then shrugs it off as "a blind monkey with no arms can do this".

    • @camparter83
      @camparter83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your conclusions are 100% accurate. I play on controller and I mainly play support. This video popped up on my YT feed and after watching it my level of play has taken a massive hit. I literally have not won a match since watching this video. Gonna go back to my heal "botting" next time I play. I'm plat so players are decent. If I take an off angle, 2 or 3 players collapse on me when I start putting on dmg. I will usually just die or have to peel back and leave my team to a 4v5 with half the heals as the other team, unless I hit all my shots AND 70%+ of them have to be headshots (which is nearly impossible on controller).

    • @camparter83
      @camparter83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a misleading video and I should've realized what you realized before trying it. Plus the other thing people don't realize is this is literally a pro player smurfing lobbies full of 20-30 year olds who play a few hours per week just to chill after a long day of work. This level of play is quite literally unachievable for 99.999...% of people on the entire planet. My suspicion is that this was deliberately designed to trick kids/teens into thinking they need to pay for his course to be good at a game that most people play for fun.

  • @straphos5326
    @straphos5326 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awkward's way for Moira *IS* the average way, 2/3, your Moira is gonna be a DPS Moira with the occasional healing.

  • @straphos5326
    @straphos5326 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone once said, "No matter how much you heal a trash player, he's still trash"

  • @owASTA
    @owASTA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    at this days , its really hard to do dmg, because even if you heal , your tank can't get enough heal .

  • @AdrenResi
    @AdrenResi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    would you be willing to do a controller challenge awkward with your usual style

  • @dragonmaster951753
    @dragonmaster951753 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I appreciate that you posted that 2nd game as it was and not trying to cover up anything.
    People will use whatever excuse they have on why they arent climbing. Its never their fault, so they cant comprehend what you're saying is true for climbing.

  • @Thee_worst
    @Thee_worst 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    TH-cam decided to recommend your videos even though I haven't touched OW since season 3 or 4 of OW1. I decided to install it again and go a few rounds of casual play, and by god is it a mess. I win maybe 20% and the other 80% are absolute blowouts where we cant even get out of spawn or touch the first point. I don't know if that's just a casual thing or what, but it was rough

  • @davidhardy3074
    @davidhardy3074 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    13:15 The average player experience LMAO.

  • @UnbiasedGooner
    @UnbiasedGooner 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video idea. I’d recommend next time you do such a video, switch between how the average support plays to how you play at the halfway point of a game. So that it’s easier to tell how you to switch up our gameplay in real time.

    • @dbb5209
      @dbb5209 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      omg yes that’d be so sick

  • @maxtieu9838
    @maxtieu9838 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awkward talks about YOU off-angling, but what do you do when you are the one who is off-angled?

    • @FeverBonus
      @FeverBonus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Take the 1:1 if in range, otherwise duck behind the cover that's right next to you

  • @boiqi
    @boiqi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On a graph of mechanical and game skill against value, playing damage has a steeper gradient but healbotting has high initial value but a slow gradient. There's a limit to the value you can get while just healbotting, which is not how you climb. Can't deny healbotting is easy and gives value so it's no surprise people rely on it when they feel the pressure.

  • @Bisento874
    @Bisento874 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro awkward is actually kinda funny the way he puts things in perspective 😂

  • @T1J
    @T1J 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    plans to do this for other roles? :)

    • @Awkward2
      @Awkward2  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

  • @calebseay8461
    @calebseay8461 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    00:00:17 Kiriko
    00:06:24 Moira
    00:15:21 Ana
    00:22:57 Zenyatta
    00:32:59 Lucio
    00:39:38 Baptiste
    00:49:47 Lifeweaver

  • @viniciuscoxoba3842
    @viniciuscoxoba3842 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    40:31 helping Bob is 100% the right move every time, who doesn't like Bob? its Bob!

  • @Nanaboost
    @Nanaboost 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you have to read the situation, the vast majority of times it is viable to prioritize playing a more aggressive role and other times continue and trust your team by giving them healing before going more aggressive. but you have to read the environment and act according to the situation

  • @wibl451
    @wibl451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Using window for the team..."

  • @peytonfkdsumadre1456
    @peytonfkdsumadre1456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    awkward being more active on youtube is really nice. tbh i haven’t played overwatch sinceeee season 5? (or whenever they added illari) also I PLAYED ON SWITCH. i got pretty into comp but i didn’t stay due to nintendo switch online’s capabilities. yet i’ve been watching awkward ever since then, and this recent bump of content is really hitting! much love bro

  • @eliesaad
    @eliesaad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here are some tips on how to play lw in plat: use pull as soon as you get it, the main purpose of it is to heal, and occasionally save people IF fate dictates and you have it off CD when you need it to save someone, oh and let's not forget using pull if someone is diving you and ulting you to secure a double kill for the enemy or just pulling to throw the game because you decided it's time to play defensively while sitting in narnia. Your petal is solely used to hinder your dps's aim and nothing else. The petal should be used off CD as well and is always thrown right below your DPS or tank for no good reason at all. Your needles? We don't know what that is I don't think they even exist. Your ult is used either defensively when the team is pushing, ergo does not benefit the team, or aggressively in a lost team fight to keep the tank up after your entire team died. Hope this helps. ♥PS: no I am not making this up, this is based on real experience.

  • @victor9
    @victor9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    "Go to the gym and tell that girl she is strong", I don't know what year you are living in but my brother in Christ Muhammad, but thats a death sentence right there.

    • @ace8099
      @ace8099 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      You have a bronze mentality when it comes to women. Who's fault is it if all the women you talk too think you're creepy, harassing them etc?
      Skill issue

    • @victor9
      @victor9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ace8099 its your fault! you and your silver mentality are to blame. take accountability and responsibility for my bronze mentality and show me how to get your Giga silver mentality.

    • @blazefa.
      @blazefa. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      My brother is Christ Muhammad? Wtf r ur talking about

    • @Notizblatt
      @Notizblatt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠ 😂

    • @doublelizard767
      @doublelizard767 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ace8099Spoken like a true gold rank Woman-izer, teach me

  • @Brinasapolu
    @Brinasapolu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most plat thing to do 'The Zen ult and then saying "push push" IM CRYING

  • @Charlie.G506
    @Charlie.G506 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    seeing this video made me realize how bad i fumbled with a class i thought i was LESS incompetent

  • @giacomoleopardi3084
    @giacomoleopardi3084 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That dialga guy is the cringiest man on heart

  • @Warpgate8
    @Warpgate8 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If you settle for "Average," it is setting you up for failure.

  • @Logan-bh8tc
    @Logan-bh8tc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The "guys what happened" was pretty funny

  • @ivoFX
    @ivoFX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Teacher: why are you laughing?
    my brain: OMG TANK HURT TIME TO TRANSCENDENCE

  • @MegaScytheman
    @MegaScytheman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Especially this season if you just heal you are coinflipping that your dps will kill more than the enemies. Your tank won't live with double pocket anymore either

    • @jarskii11
      @jarskii11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This. But People seem To be living In season 8 still...

  • @Rydo123
    @Rydo123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tf does he mean average Moria is healbotting I hardly see a Moria who does heals

    • @zypeLLas
      @zypeLLas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And what rank are u? silver? Gold plat heals a lot

    • @Rydo123
      @Rydo123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zypeLLas nah I mean like on TikTok and stuff but also in my games it’s either lots of heals and damage or only damage

    • @Rydo123
      @Rydo123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zypeLLas I’m plat rn cause I got back into it a while ago and played with some of my mates who never played before and dropped from diamond 4 to gold 3. In my prime my mate got masters and I was diamond 1 tho

  • @spaska1184
    @spaska1184 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so easy to climb since i watched you, you make it so simple to understand and dont complicate it

  • @Amadeuszmaster
    @Amadeuszmaster 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    39:25 "why do we win ?"
    Because i played like a top500 player in a plat lobby, while otherwise trying to play like a caricature of a plat player.
    I love the content, but plats and golds don't have the gamesense, awareness or aim to do what you do.
    But your "how i play" moments are propably helpful for non-metals. I am happy in gold and i dropped here, because healbotting is tougher in the current patch.
    But it's fine, i just play to have fun, can't play this game like a job or i'll get depressive.

  • @JaDEnLai0528
    @JaDEnLai0528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    healing support is because they can't hit the enemy~

  • @hhhhj5831
    @hhhhj5831 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is basically just do the opposite of what you think you’re supposed to be doing lol

  • @jameslopez9661
    @jameslopez9661 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The dps passive makes healbotting more effective since one missed heal will kill your team

    • @mindyourtruth
      @mindyourtruth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Until the enemy team has a support with the amount of dmg the tank has. Good luck winning if your team misses the 20% dmg it could've had.
      What Awkward shows here, is he does in fact heal, but he does not go braindead healbotting when he can also do dmg to kill the enemy team faster.
      If you want healbotting, go Mercy lol

  • @greytoeimp
    @greytoeimp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what i get most from this in a way is how these two 'playstyles' have actually collapsed, in the game. you don't have as much choice in terms of what you do and when you do it, as a player. the game tells you and your only 'freedom' is to ignore that and lose.

  • @walkereugene
    @walkereugene หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd argue the average Moira doesn't know how to heal lol

  • @chiefjoboo
    @chiefjoboo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have found the contrast between the average player and a better player to be extremely helpful. Can you do this with DPS? I have not seen a video like gold tactics vs better tactics before.

  • @sparta218
    @sparta218 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20:04 The lag thing 😂😂😂

  • @siecola0527
    @siecola0527 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Who here watched the stream live and saw the Dialga drama?

    • @LukeMason
      @LukeMason 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That Lucio was so mad.

    • @siecola0527
      @siecola0527 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LukeMason bro was malding at awkward, called him to a 1v1 and lost 7x0. Lost all heroes, said he was a lucio otp and lost 7 in a row 💀

    • @ghoisc
      @ghoisc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      let's not forget that the reason they lost was because the keyboard wasn't plugged in twice and they were in Australia as a Formula 2 driver

    • @siecola0527
      @siecola0527 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ghoisc he said like 3 times he had to "get his keyboard" and after losing 7 times in a row, he said he was a controller player 💀

  • @vapesog232
    @vapesog232 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro i watched 2 games of the road to gm lucio. What and an error occured:( what happened

  • @nicolasjuntes9319
    @nicolasjuntes9319 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't argue with people online xD

  • @Zathren
    @Zathren 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Last night I had a support game where I got 12k DMG while playing my favorite Moira. I died way too much and kept pressing the attack when I shouldn't, but I was pretty proud of myself haha.

    • @purple_haze8160
      @purple_haze8160 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That’s called feeding bro

    • @Zathren
      @Zathren 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@purple_haze8160 but we won the game bro. So maybe you should "feed" more in your games?

    • @RandomPerson-ow8cc
      @RandomPerson-ow8cc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Zathrenmoira is a stat farm character btw

    • @waitingforcivictyper
      @waitingforcivictyper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Avg Moira main

    • @purple_haze8160
      @purple_haze8160 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zathren u mean u won in a bronze lobby ? Good for u

  • @honi7575
    @honi7575 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the start of the video is so funny, love you awkward

  • @RadarFinsR
    @RadarFinsR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awkward giving actual life advice at the end of the video kinda sweet, I know a few OW players who definitely need those reminders.

  • @miisterderp8099
    @miisterderp8099 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for helping me climb. i went from silver to plat watching your videos the last few days

  • @ogbobbykush9002
    @ogbobbykush9002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just love that you lost the second game too.

  • @user-bw5xf3yr3m
    @user-bw5xf3yr3m 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can’t off angle, cause if one person duels me I’m dead I can’t win many duels

    • @handsomesquidward5160
      @handsomesquidward5160 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't off angle because the moment I do my team dies from lack of healing

  • @orionx6688
    @orionx6688 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You were wrong about the average moira way tbh. The average moira way is never left click.
    Right click is the best option and it works too

  • @Tx_98
    @Tx_98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would absolutely love a ram guide, I find him very fun but very hard to get value with

  • @overratedfool6900
    @overratedfool6900 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was waiting the whole video to see if he would recommend Battle Mercy lol. I think the exclusion answers my question.

  • @mattganci4731
    @mattganci4731 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could watch awkward play Anna all day

  • @kroneexe
    @kroneexe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    You won the heal botting game, but lost the damage game with Kiriko lol.

    • @terrencebanfield9791
      @terrencebanfield9791 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      His chat must’ve been lit up 🤣

    • @Awkward2
      @Awkward2  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      Correlation doesn’t mean causation.

    • @Randomness662
      @Randomness662 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      You still have much more control over a match where you're being proactive and doing damage. The healbot game he only won because he was lucky his team wasn't complete garbage. You could have the highest healing in the world but damage gets kills, and kills are how you win

    • @cjerp
      @cjerp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Randomness662 The amount of matches i've lost while healing twice as much as the enemy team is insane, but in gold if you out dps your dps they'll throw. Even when they have zen doing most of the work damage wise they'll ask him to heal more...?

    • @reddd-77
      @reddd-77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      of course not, its just funny@@Awkward2

  • @chrissutton7199
    @chrissutton7199 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:38 😂😂😂😂 awkward is hilarious

  • @baggedmilk02
    @baggedmilk02 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man this was hilarious 😭 even though I’m a t500 kiriko, the way you played as zen in the first round is how I play as zen LMAO 24:53 I did this a few times thinking I was doing something 😭😭

  • @bren9193
    @bren9193 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lmao the dialga guy got done dirty🤣

  • @Andre.Ferreira.28
    @Andre.Ferreira.28 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was the funniest video you ever made!! 23:55 cracked me up!!

  • @Thegamerof20131
    @Thegamerof20131 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was great but the average moira doesn't heal, it's all damage