The REAL REASON why Mahoraga was SHADOW BOXING in the middle of the fight vs Sukuna | Jujutsu Kaisen
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Do you know why Mahoraga was shadow boxing during the fight with Sukuna? If you watch the Blu-ray version that has been blowing up on the internet, you would notice that Mahoraga was punching air for a while. Some people might be confused as why it did such a useless move in the middle of the fight, but if you go read the fucking manga, you will know that Mahoraga was not only able to see Sukuna’s technique, “but it can also deflect” the slashes of the King of curses. This is actually a major change in the anime version prior to the manga as Mahoraga’s ability was made more reasonable, it needs multiple wheel spins in order to adapt to Sukuna’s technique, just like in the fight with Gojo where it needed 5 spins, but in the original version Mahoraga just needed 1 spin and deflect Sukuna’s slashes, then yeeted him across the map. Do you think that was a neft to Maho daddy?
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Mahoraga punching the air rn
Good one
@@dyablo_ciaofr
Fr
Literally
Smash
Sukuna himself said "you can see my cursed technique" and mf still be ignorant
Hi
@@jahrilkatherine yo
Mahoraga saw it but the camera man
Hi@@jahrilkatherine
😮@@entity.x
Bro was fighting his demons mid fight.
Bro WAS the demon 💀💀
@@SmitherShrek aaaaaaaaaaaa
Agreed, mental health is very important.
@@SmitherShrek baba ba
Bro HE is the demon wym
What if Mahoraga was called Freaky raga, and instead of adapting to your attacks, he adapts to your kissing flow?
💀
certified haram comment
@@Piney101-wm2bdno shut sherlock💀
@@IGGA_74 ??
Huh
He was obviously adabting to sukuna stand💀☠️😂
That's so realistic cause I know none of y'all watching it has a stand.
The stand is gege
I thought mahoraga was sukuna's stand
@@chaos_jackna he’s a summon a stand is a manifestation of the soul so sukunas stand would be similar to his domain expansion as they are also different depending on the person
"So it's the same type of curse as Mahoraga."
-Megumi Fushiguro
Complicated techniques takes multiple spins where as simpler techniques takes few spins...this was well explained in the manga
Do you remember the chapter? I was theorizing that the fewer spins was because Sukuna had just 16 fingers, but what you said makes more sense.
@@neitomonoma4699 unfortunately I don't remember the chapter number.
But since cleave and dismantle are just slashing techniques , it just takes 1 spin to adapt .
Where as Limitless technique consists of
Blue , Red , Infinity barrier , and hollow . All are different applications of limitless and is a complicated technique in itself. So Maho needs more spins to adapt to Gojo's limitless...(5 spins I think)
Sukuna CT got revealed which is Shrine and not cleave and dismantle.
It may be the case that cleave and dismantle may be just one aspect of his technique which is why it got adapted faster in just 1 spin.( But it is just a theory at this point)
Sukuna had 15 fingers not 14
@@neitomonoma4699 He was 16 fingers
@@netokuhl sorry. My bad.
Sukuna: Michael jackson ahh pose
Mahoraga: *boxing with air*
Mahoraga wasn’t deflecting anything. Once sukuna realized mahoraga was adapting to his slashes, he started feinting to confuse him. Mahoraga would swing at the air to use his severed limb as a projectile. After doing that a few times sukuna started feinting and mahoraga adapted to the feints and also started feinting.
I know this was the reason given by the director or whatever but its such bs. It does make maho look weak and with the bad animation its hard to follow
@@dhhhhde Explain what bad animation is to you and then let's talk.
The scene wasn't even hard to follow, you could clearly see Mahoraga boxing air to predict the slashes as Sukuna is faking him out by pointing his finger at him. It's not bs at all, the directior's explanation just shines more light onto the context of this scene.
And just because the shading or animation style doesn't fit your taste, doesn't mean it's bad. If this is bad animation then stop watching most anime in general, go back to Demon Slayer, Fate and KyoAni animes if you wanna watch anime's with "Decent" animation. Because if Sukuna vs Mahoraga is bad, then their animation is just decent to good levels.
EDIT: I doubt you'd even understand what I'm saying if you can't even understand a VERY clear scene in an anime.
You are correct. JJK fans are a special kind of stupid and spread misinformation all the time
@@thegoldenapplebryanwu6816alright I agree for the most part, but let's not shit on ufotable and their Strongest Tax Evader of Today budget ahh fights
@@BoneTea I know lol. I think Ufotable animation is god-tier too, I'm just saying that if that guy thinks this objectively better animation is poorly animated and un-readable, then his standards are put to the point where the god-tier looking scenes just look decent or mid.
"Maho Daddy" 💀
Mahoraga is a girl...
MY MAN RAGA THE OP STOPPA
Free gojo ni-
Smash
WHOA!
"Nah, I'd Adapt."
-Mahoraga
"Nah I'd team up with sukuna to kill gojo."
Mahoraga
Still nah, i’d win my ass
*daddyraga
@@BigRagaTheOppstoba nah id say nah I'd win will being buffed and still lost
-gojo
How the hell could he see anything he had no damn eyes
Adapted past needing eyes. Whatever he uses are better than eyes anyways since even jujutsu sorcerers can't see the slashes
Blind people can "see" whats behind them if they learn echo location
@@NekuroMCbut he ain't got no ears either 😭😭(that I know of)
Neither did Rika
The animation studio posted a storyboard about the sequence and in the notes it said Magoraha was throwing all of those punches as means to launch his arms at sukuna in case he throws a slash that would cut them off.
He was also setting his arms in a way that if the slashes did cut his arm, the arm could be used as a projectile to try and hit Sukuna.
Would not do significant dmg tho
Thats literaly whats said in the storyboard@@ka-izen
@@ka-izen
I mean, that doesn't really matter, Mahoraga isn't really sentient it's just following a basic set of programming to adapt to then counter attacks thrown at it until it kills the ritual invoker. It's way more dangerous when it has someone actually commanding it.
Nothing Mahoraga does here really has a chance of harming Sukuna, he's just playing around with it because he has an interesting opponent, in much the same way he didn't just open with DE on Jogo or just instantly atomize him with the Fire Arrow.
@@AveSicarius mahoraga has some personality traits, like grinning when he thought he won when he casually strolled through sukuna's domain and yelling when he couldn't kill sukuna. sukuna was dead without furnace-open.
@@ka-izen done elsewhere in the fight to do big hits.
all of mahoragas knee hits were launched aftr being cut in half
Its not just in the manga, it's in the anime too. "YOU CAN SEE IT MAHORAHA! YOU CAN SEE MY CURSED TECHNIQUE!"
I think he was referring to how many spins Maho daddy needed to adapt and deflect the slashes. In manga, Maho daddy just needed 1 spin and play with Goatkuna but in anime, 3 spins were needed
@@ismetheguyfr guess so
All the haters must've been browsing tiktok while watching
Maho daddy😁😆😅😂🤣
Yeah, people weren't paying attention. I didn't read the manga and I figured it out.
This right here is exactly why Demon Slayer makes their slashes and moves with special effects because the moment the author says you cannot physically “see” this move and the people watching can’t see it, they say it’s dumb. Of course you can’t see it. It’s unseeable. That’s why Sukuna said his line with excitement.
He was also trying to adapt to sukuna's feints before he adapted and used a feint himself which is why sukuna smiled when he was hit bc in his mind he corrupted something seen as divine by teaching mahoraga to in essence lie
The *real* reason in the Anime was that Mahoraga couldn't tell whether Sukuna would throw out a feign or not, Sukuna was bullying Mahoraga by waving his hands and posing while not actually attacking or lightly waving his hand when the Dismantle that followed was devastating. This was confusing Mahoraga to the point that he Adapted to Sukuna's fighting style and throwing his own feign attack, which is why you can see Sukuna smile before he is hit in the Blu-Ray, because he believes he corrupted Mahoraga's "Divine" status by teaching him out to Lie via fakeouts.
one of the non dumb commenters in the comment section of this video ^
bingo
Ye the content dumb theory
No it wasn't. He hitting Sukunnas slashes. It's in the manga and they even said it in the manga and anime
This is correct ^-^
"Nah, I'd adapt"
Mahoraga: Maho daddy? 😭
:>>>
Nah it's big daddy raga
How are you alive, sensei???
he's warming up
“Nah, i’d adapt”
“With this treasure, I summon, Daddy Mahoraga” 💀
Me about to say something sussy
Digital footprint: Forgot me chap?💀💀💀
Big Raga, The Opp Stoppa
ahaha
This was Sukuna testing how Mahoraga worked. He tested whether the adaptation was to the motion of the attack, the attack itself, or the combination of attack and motion. In the end he just adapts to the attacks regardless of motion.
no, he adapts to the enemy, mahoraga would eventually be immune to everything the enemy can do, even the type of attack they use. sukuna instantly recognised that mahoraga's thing is adaptation, something about perfect harmony.
@@nicholas-dv1mgcan you read
@@Nicotine600 how else would i reply
@@nicholas-dv1mg you just used different words to say the same thing
@@boserboser6870 no, i said it adapts to the enemy, not just the attack.
The main reason why for those who don’t know was because sukuna fainted his slash at maharaga and now it’s trying to adapt to the slashing since he doesn’t know when it’s coming
Why is nobody talking about him calling maho daddy at the end😭
Just so y’all know in the anime sukuna said “You can see my technique mahoraga”
Implying that If y’all actually PAID attention to the episode you would know why he’s shadow boxing
I paid attention I just don’t be putting two and two together like that
Don't fuck with jjk fans, they don't even read their own manga
I wasnt paying attention i was just like: "oooo colors"
Don't fuck with jjk fans, they don't read their own manga
Omg why does yt keep deleting my comment
Added info : Mahoraga was trying to hit Sukuna's slashes
Lets analyze a little
Mahoragas technique is to be able to adapt to any and all phenomena ( not cursed techniques phenomena )
Sukunas have two two types of slashes and his domain is also slashes so Maho adapted to getting sliced and counteres that way cleave, dismantle and his domain
So why does he need 4 spins to adapt to limitless because limitless create 4 phenomena blue,red,hollow,infinity.
@@Kronidis in the manga it was explained he adapted to the the phenomena that is slashing meaning both cleave and dismantle was adapted to and it only took 1 turn of the wheel
Also said in the manga the more complex said phenomena is the more wheel turns it would take which is why limitless needed 4
@@CMGaming-cq8ei that is what i said.
@@Kronidisgojos technique is more complex so it took longer to adapt
There's a video about it but the gist of it is in the title"Sukuna taught Mahoraga how to lie". After Mahoraga adapts to the original slashes Sukuna starts mixing in faints between his attacks. Then Mahoraga starts learning how to react to faints and start throwing his own. This is the process of Mahoraga learning how to properly react to faints while Sukuna is pretty much just taunting him by throwing faints
Thank you. It honestly upsets me how easily things can go over people's heads..
Also, with the storyboard release, we learned Sukuna was faking out Maharaga on when he would strike with Slash. So Maharaga was trying to predict it with the shadow boxing. (He used his limbs as a projectile twice in a fight, hence the shadow boxing, they get cut, they become projectiles)
Yeah it was trying to force Sukuna into a lose lose scenario, If he strikes it will attempt to counter and reflect his attack, if that fails then it’s limbs will be flung as Sukuna anyway.
The real spicy question is if sukuna is feinting his attacks because he anticipated that.
@@draketurtle4169 that and because he was enjoying it, he got great pleasure from "Corrupting" this angelic entity that shouldn't be able to be beaten, so he got great entertainment from fainting and screwing with Maharaga as it struggled to figure out how to adapt.
He quite literally did this after Sukuna said "YOU CAN SEE MY CURSED TECHNIQUE" how is it not obvious
Before y'all say anything, no I did not copy, I just write whatever the hell goes in my mind
Cause usually there is some other visual indicator to the technique such as red or black slashes, or the area cutting up, or atleast Sukuna making hand motions. This is the first time he did it without any of those appearing, so don’t insult people for not getting it
@@Cryonanbut it’s literally given to you and these people expect everything to just be explained to them. They literally want bad storytelling so gatekeeping is the only way for art to not be destroyed
@@queuebe4068 It ISNT given to us. I had to think for a lil bit before even I got it. We usually get indicators for his technique and usually we can always see it, so I don’t blame people for not getting it. (The clearest example is his domain slashes which we “shouldn’t be able to see” but we can because we are the audience, and people are used to that, and not them showing what’s really happening. That’s like demon slayer if it didn’t have the breathings effects, it is what is really happening but isn’t as easy to comprehend)
@@CryonanI totally agree. It was so much stuff that it really didn’t show what was going on.
@@Cryonan
it’s because there are no slashes mahoraga is just getting hit by the meanest fake out
YOU CAN SEE IT MAHORAGA YOU CAN SEE MY CURSED TECHNIQUE!!!
-the king of curses
the REAL reason why Mahoraga was shadow boxing was because Sukuna was faking those slashes but Mahoraga doesn't know when the real slashes were coming hence why he started shadow boxing, hoping to either deflect it or to throw its severed body parts towards Sukuna.
Moharaga was punching sukunas stand he had from the heian era
Gojo's infinity was way stronger than malevolent kitchen maybe that's why he needed only 1 spin instead of 5 in case of sukuna
It can also be because sukuna has his domain in the physical world and doesn't create a separate space
No, Mahoraga adapted quicker to Sukuna's technique because it was simpler than Gojo's not because they were weaker.
Yeah, Sukuna's technique is not weaker, it is just a way more simpler in mechanics
Ah yes, the "weaker" technique that created our beloved go/jo😂
@@vasilesidau7749 I mean 15 fingers sukuna IS wesker than Gojo
@@vasilesidau7749well sukuna is stronger but gojo technique was stronger
Mahodaddy is wild
When he's shadow boxing in the blue ray it shows Sukuna faking him out, so hes punching so if any of the fakes are actual slashes his dismembered arm would be propelled at Sukuna. The multiple spins are adapting to the fakeouts, strategy, and technique of Sukuna. Thats why Mahoraga ends up fakeouting Sukuna when he gut punches him.
The actual reason why he was punching the air was because he couldn’t see the slashes, he had just adapted to deflect the slashes whenever sukuna was in his slashing pose. It took another spin of the wheel for Mahoraga to adapt to Sukuna throwing feints
So uh what about when sukuna yells "YOU CAN SEE MY TECHNIQUE MAHORAGA" and laughs
@@tom_a_tree_is_like_a_bee_w4297that basically means sukuna feint technique not the actual cursed technique.
I think Mahoraga actually deflected a slash in the beginning of the fight
@@Lucid_dreams1519 he deflected but later. Sukuna used a feint.
@@Lucid_dreams1519 the storyboard tell that.
Mahoraga be fighting his inner demons fr 💀
Maho daddy is wild. 😂
Sukuna even says “you can see it mahoraga,you can see my cursed technique”
mahodaddy is crazy tho, but that adapting bbc is even crazier
hope that’s not what I think it is. But if it is wouldn’t it be BWC because maharaga is depicted as being white?
@@kriptonitegamer777 Big raga the opp stoppa give off that black air force energy.
Fraudkuna be like: Mahodaddy help me step Gojo is here
Mahoraga would die nearly instantly in a 1v1 against Gojo
Gay Go/Jo got cooked.Chill dude 🤫
Utahime helped gayjo before the fight to reach 120% cT output and ijichi helped to land the first hollow purple without sukuna noticing
@ahmednihan3212 ahh yes My plot armour technique and being the favourite that I have been using The entire time.
@@azikhan1707 plot armour that saved gojo from toji right 🤡
The anime would make sense because it puts Sukuna in a reasonable time limit. He started off overwhelming Mahoraga and after a few spins, Sukuna realises that he's basically getting stronger every time the wheel spins. So he uses shrine+fuga to finish him off before he adapts to all of his attacks.
Doctor:Shadow Boxer Mahoraga no it's real he not can punching you
Shadow Boxer Mahoraga:
Actually Sukuna was not doing anything at that point... Sukuna managed to damaged Big Raga's brain exe. to a point that it got confused whether he was sending cleave or dismantle attacks or not... Sukuna was just posing...
It's being confirmed by the animators who actually animated this sequence via storyboard
He's not confused, it was actively trying to anticipate Sukuna Throwing a Cleave at its limbs to send it flying to deal damage, when it learned sukuna was throwing fakes, it started doing so too, adapting to the situation
@@northernalpine4350 prob better to say: its dealing with its inability to read feighnts (which it didnt understand) by making sure follow ups that arnt feighnts are countered
Makora adapted to air and start pumching them💀🙏
YOU CAN SEE MY CURSED TECHNIQUE CAN'T YOU. MAHOOOORAAGA
Imagine mahoraga with all eight wheel spins bruh
Bro was fighting john cena and sukuna at the same time
Respect!!!😂😂
During the pointing, he was, quite literally, punching air. He wasn't seeing slashes. He was overwhelmed by the concept of Sukuna's feints, and didn't know how much of what Sukuna was doing was feints and which ones were actual attacks, the adapting he was doing was adapting to Sukuna's feinting, eventually ending in him hitting Sukuna with a feint of his own, which is the reason Sukuna had that silly ass smile because he had corrupted the Divine status of the Divine General
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When you say corruption? Could you expand on that? Why would an adaptation be corruption?
@@Genchi_Violet it's entirely in moral terms, he made something "Divine" LIE, which, to Sukuna, meant he ruined something that was Divine, that's all there is to it
@TheHolyM249 ah, I see. I never really thought about it that way. But even God's lie and do evil things?
"Maho daddy" 💀💀💀💀
Mahoraga adapted so hard the cameraman couldn’t keep up
Mahoraga is the best character in jjk
Would you take back shots from mahoraga because I would
@@Zan72249real
Jogo
cameraman forgot to change his camera lens for this fight.
Plot twist: he really was just hitting air
It's not plot twist, he actually is just punching air. After that cut, he adapted to Sukuna's mind games and fighting styles (which in this case is fakes, feint, fakepumps, and feign) and he counters Sukuna by doing the same feinting technique (he faked by using his right hand to punch, then immediately changed to left hand to punch) and finally landed a hit on Sukuna, that's why we see Sukuna smiling after Mahoraga landed a hit, he smiles because he knew that he corrupted Mahoraga's DIVINE status by making him doing feints
@@Kanegane Mahogara's truly a nerfed genius 💀
@@xmoderkingd he didn't get nerfed tho, it's just the way of storytelling, the focus here is the evilness of Sukuna
@@xmoderkingd if he was nerfed, we wouldn't get to see the amazing Saucelot's mahoraga walking through Malevolent Shrine cut
This was one of the rare occasions that the camera man couldn't keep up.
U guys know what i just realised,Mahoraga is Yuji's Gramps✋️💀
Mahoraga:*fighting for his life*
Sukuna:HEEE HEEE
He's a smooth criminal ain't he!
"Nah id adapt"
One more spin
"Sukuna"
Nah mahoraga was just fighting sukunas stand "ZA KITCHEN" we couldn't see it because we arent stand users 😂
The real reason according to the storyboard artists was that Mahoraga had been adapting to the slashes by hitting them with his limbs and making the limbs therefore fly off to hit Sukuna.
Sukuna noticed this so he started feinting attacks. Mahoraga didn’t know what this was so here he’s trying to anticipate when Sukuna’s next attack will be.
Sukuna: KEEP GOING MAHO RAGA
Mahoraga said "aight, let me lock the fuck in"
The amount of wheels spins never changes between manga and anime
Mahodaddy is so real~ ;3
weirdo
@@rxdocker hey~ ;3
@@rxdocker;3
@@rxdocker;3
@@midnightthecat____ me when i’m addicted to porn
"YOU CAN SEE MY CURSED TECHNIQUE, MAHORAGA!"
*Entire jjk fanbase* : huh
Short:
He's adapting yes he punching air for adapt
That is not exactly the reason, some animators notes reveal that mahoraga was literally predicting the cuts, so when it happens his parts where directly launched in the direction of sukuna, thats why there a part where the arm of Mahoraga was flying towards sukuna, because maho predict the cleave, and used the impact to launch the arm from far. So when Sukuna starts to fake'it, maho was still predicting.
Mahoraga punching thin air reminds me of a homeless guy on crack fighting himself
he didn’t nerf him. every time mahoraga adapted/spin he could see it easier and his durability against it improved. but gojos thins is just infinity, it can’t have a weaker or easier to handle effect, so it just had a bare value of 5 spins to adapt and overcome
“Yeeted him across the map” ☠️
we got so used on anime explaining every detail of their attack that those are alien to us 💀
Mahoraga is truly underrated
Sukuna literally said in the fight (anime version ) that he was suprised mahoraga could see his technique .
It took only 5 minutes to realize that he was blocking dismantle, cuz if u notice sukuna's hand sign it's like he was shooting out dismantle
You dont even need to read the manga to understand it fully. The whole episode fleshed it all out. Also, After that shadow box, paparaga also spin the divine general to adapt to sukuna's fake dismantle/cleave. He simply adapts to sukuna's teasing wtf😭
“What are you doing here Dutch?”
“Same as you, I suppose”
Dutch was planning on killing Micah
I'll never forget when someone that Mahoraga he was being held up by dental floss I can't get it out of my head now
Now I know why the subtitles said "uses cursed energy to deflect his slashes*
No mahoraga was actually adapting in the manga the hole time thats how he was regeneration
Big Roga da op stoppa no need for new names lol
"YOU CAN SEE IT, MAHORAGA?! "
"YOU CAN SEE MY CURSED TECHNIQUE!"
Sukuna literally shouted it out in both the manga and anime
“Yeeted him across the map” is insane
Bro really said maho dady 😅
Bro rlly said maho daddy deeper
What's crazier is Maho Daddy (simping for him rn)
I heard that sukuna was trying to teach mahoraga how to feint and that thing sukuna is doing is actually faking his slash and maho was trying to predict the slashes can't remember where i saw this so don't ask questions
doin allat with no eyes is crazy💀
“Mhaorega” 🥶🥶🥶🔥
Bro ain't got eyes but can see the invicible curse technique
by the way, mahoraga in that scene was antecipating sukuna slashes, since there's no visual or sound effect of mahoraga deflecting any slash, sukuna in that moment noticed that his technique was becoming useless against him since he was adapting to it, so he feints to notuce clearly if mahoraga was adapting completely to his technique.
You can see it mahoraga🔥🔥🔥🔥
You can see my curse technique🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sukuna litreally sais „you can See it mahoraga“
"you can see it mahoraga,you can see my cursed technique"💀
he wasnt deflecting them he was tossing his body parts at him.
We can headcanon that the more complex the technique the longer it takes to adapt
He just feeling a little little Mike Tyson.... Doing that "Shoo sho shoo shoo...sho shoo"
Mahoraga looks like the thanos that lives in my basement😂
I guess man was adapting a lil too much for his brain to catch up 💀