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  • @Valkyrja
    @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Sorry if the audio is off or if the video is weird. Vegas made an oopsy and now I have to use MICROSOFT CLIP EDITOR (dear god help me) until it is resolved LOL.
    But yeah focus on like 4 to 6 units because you will genuinely ruin your progress if you spread yourself too thin. Think this is only 50 to 60. Imagine 70 to 80.

    • @milteo2602
      @milteo2602 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's gonna be hard to showcase every character unless you pace yourself, should probably start with the guaranteed free characters as well as the rate-up characters on the limited warp, which totals to 10 characters right now (MC, March 7th, Dan Heng, Servel, Asta, Herta, Natasha, Hook, Pela and Seele) Since Players are more likely to have them, to see which one the Player feels is worth building or if they what to try to pull for the limited character now or wait for a rerun/not pull at all.

    • @albertofrederickimana8046
      @albertofrederickimana8046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're exaggerating things. We've already seen this happen in Genshin before, and reactionary videos like this was what led to a lot of people not leveling their characters above 80 for more than a year because "Resources after 80 is not worth it". But over time, people can and will max level as many characters as they want - after all, events and quests all give a consistent trickle of EXP and currency over time.
      At most it'll just set people back a week, at most a few weeks, plus not everyone would be max leveling every character immediately anyway. It's certainly not "Ruin your account" levels of clickbaiting.

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@albertofrederickimana8046 ? You absolutely should level units to 80 in star rail. More so just being cautionary to newer players to not spread their resources so thin. Is it over dramatic? Absolutely. But my message stays. Not everyone has the knowledge we do.

    • @binsoythegreat25
      @binsoythegreat25 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you make a tutorial on how to defeat gepard on simulated universe? He's so tough I can't beat him

  • @hintofinsanity
    @hintofinsanity ปีที่แล้ว +576

    You need to focus on more than just 4-6 units as the forgotten hall requires 8 units eventually. You are fairly safe focusing on 8-10 units.😊

    • @andressuarez312
      @andressuarez312 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      Also this game isn't genshin. In turn base games you need variety to do different content, specially with weakness break. Id say 6-8 units is a safe bet for investment

    • @YHAHAHA-ln3mi
      @YHAHAHA-ln3mi ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@andressuarez312 more actually, 8 is the least i'd said

    • @Ephemerthefish2525
      @Ephemerthefish2525 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Isnt that what we did in genshin like
      Slowly build chars we like but also good and can work together with others
      Clara and trailblazer tank should be on diff teams as they want to taunt and be attacked

    • @MuhammadKharismawan
      @MuhammadKharismawan ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@andressuarez312 you're going at it backward, genshin are free-er as you don't need the variety, you can kill any content with one or type of main dps as long as it's invested enough.
      Honkai is harder because you HAVE to make use of that variety to break those shields.

    • @blehblah766
      @blehblah766 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@MuhammadKharismawan Yeah especially since if your good you can dodge most stuff in genshin but there is no dodging in this game

  • @Infernaladmiral
    @Infernaladmiral ปีที่แล้ว +493

    Well duh who in their right mind would level up every character unless they're a total newbie to gacha and rpg games.

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว +102

      If only levelling EVERY character was the issue. Keep in mind, this is only 50 to 60. This problem is gonna get so much worse LOL

    • @DerelictSong
      @DerelictSong ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Valkyrja don't forget the talents

    • @Infernaladmiral
      @Infernaladmiral ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@DerelictSong relics : hello there

    • @Nataninko
      @Nataninko ปีที่แล้ว +49

      ​@@Infernaladmiral light cones: aren't you forgeting something?

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      LUL yup

  • @NormalSpeedGamer
    @NormalSpeedGamer ปีที่แล้ว +153

    This is not a mistake, i maxed out all my characters in genshin and yes it makes me drain resources and I progress much slower but in the long run i have options and makes gameplay way more fun and not repetitive since we will eventually have that stage where we run out of content, remember star rail is a 7 year journey, not a 1 week journey!

    • @xXzman9000Xx
      @xXzman9000Xx ปีที่แล้ว +15

      yep, that's what i do in genshin as well. instead of hyper focusing on 1, i bring up everyone together. took me almost 2 years to 36 star abyss, but also at that point, i could also swap out any character i wanted without swapping weapon or artifact set because they all had one.
      now year 3 as a f2p i'm still getting through these new super buffed abyss 12, and i can swap characters out if i need to.
      the issue is in games with a long grind is, diminishing returns on investment, which you don't run into if you bring everyone up at the same time. there's no wasted grind just for a 1% increase on a single character, instead in that time you get a 10% increase on like 15 characters, even if they all are weaker.
      in the long run an account doing this will be stronger then an account that doesn't, assuming they are both f2p and can get all reward content.

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 ปีที่แล้ว

      in the long run, you'll get others 😂
      so how's your FH progress? probably too casual for that so..

    • @clarakhong1148
      @clarakhong1148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same. I'm casual. I level nearly all the characters except 10 to lv 80 ascended and talent 6/8/8. I don't regret it. my artifact may suck because I didn't bother farming for those except for my 2 main dps for abyss. But... I'm having fun with my odd team comps. Don't ask me about cryo Benny or healer thundering fury Heizou. Instead of one big number, I prefer going for many small numbers. I don't regret it. 😊

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I regret not doing that. I'm in the process right now but grinding for the ascension resources is waaayxto boring when your exporation is at 100% and all you are looking for is literal grass...
      I decided to max everyone early so later on, i only need to focus on new characters.

    • @chenyeezhen2643
      @chenyeezhen2643 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Me who levels up characters just because I want intertwine fates : 👁👄👁

  • @braybraycooldude1238
    @braybraycooldude1238 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    This is usually the first rule of any gacha game. Coming from a gacha like infinite magicraid, I've learned to be very very careful with who and what I use my resources on. That game allowed resources for literally only 7-8 fully leveled heroes after 6 months of everyday play. Glad this game seems much more generous

    • @SHINIGAMI6774
      @SHINIGAMI6774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i will just focus o seele natasha and mc

    • @EXPeepik
      @EXPeepik ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SHINIGAMI6774 what about your beginner banner 5 star?

    • @williamt.sherman2573
      @williamt.sherman2573 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      people need to chill and not grind the fuck out of a game that just released like 1 week ago, holy ass

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its launch, don't get that excited. After lvl 50,more resources are needed

  • @thatonecomment6893
    @thatonecomment6893 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    this honestly isn't even that bad. it was to be expected i knew what it was gonna be like once i saw the same book system from genshin here. this doesn't ruin anything and merely slows you down, this isn't like deleting your main artifacts and shit its workable
    events just like in genshin will probably give a good few purple books too

  • @sorantis_
    @sorantis_ ปีที่แล้ว +258

    That is how the temptation of just buying a Battlepass starts. It offers so much resources when you look at it right now that the game is just new and people want to progress as much as possible. I hope the events that they would release could somewhat ease the grind for us who don't have the luxury. Nevertheless, if we think about it everyone will get there eventually.

    • @allnamesaretakenful
      @allnamesaretakenful ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm so tempted to get the Battlepass. Really the only thing stopping me is I won't be a FTP Account.

    • @seeking_saturn
      @seeking_saturn ปีที่แล้ว

      are we gonna get an event soon?

    • @upriising3037
      @upriising3037 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@allnamesaretakenful why care so much about FTP status. Its not a online game theirs isnt a leaderboard. So is it just to flex? idk, if ur pressed for cash it totally makes sense but if u truly enjoy the game spending 5-10 bucks isnt a sin lol.

    • @ParadoX-os
      @ParadoX-os ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@allnamesaretakenful Why are you treating being F2P as a badge of honor though?

    • @kuronekonyan
      @kuronekonyan ปีที่แล้ว +5

      5$ isnt luxury.... anyone can afford it

  • @DuploBone
    @DuploBone ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Leveling everyone to 40 out of 50 and eventually 60 out of 70 for the Standard Passes to get more pulls is worth it. Not everyone's Traces though, only the Traces of the characters ya plan to use in Forgotten Hall + Simulated Universe. 😉

  • @uriviashi
    @uriviashi ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm TL42 and I have 8 units built because of forgotten hall. Variety is important and having at least 2-3 DPS is the way to go, up until 8-10 characters (2 healers; one per team, and the rest supports). Those are always my rules when new gacha/rpg games come out. It happened to me with Genshin and I was already prepared before HSR.

  • @hmmmm8653
    @hmmmm8653 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    personally i love the grind to get stronger in a game which i haven't gotten from genshin recently because i have way too many well built characters now and there is no point in grinding unless a new character comes out that i like.

  • @NeoSlashott
    @NeoSlashott ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Leveling characters to 60 feels tempting to a ticket rewards. But still you don't have to rush to level em all.
    Anyways, grind traces materials for your main 4 first. Calculate how many to synthesize to purple ones. That way you can maxed out your trace levels. ( It's just like Talent levelings in Genshin ) ^^

  • @FilmFlam-8008
    @FilmFlam-8008 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Absolutely not.
    It will slow your progress, but that really doesn’t matter. The game, like Genshin, will hit a point where you just grind.

    • @FilmFlam-8008
      @FilmFlam-8008 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And if you don’t care about the “abyss’s”, it doesn’t matter. In-game bosses can be beat underleveled.

    • @thatonecomment6893
      @thatonecomment6893 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i love how all these youtubers go "THIS WILL RUIN YOUR ACCOUNT!!! OMG DONT DO THIS" when things like this are not only expected but a minor inconvenience
      just like C6ing ben doesnt RUIN your account. only makes him less universal .

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tbh the "THIS WILL RUIN YOU ACCOUNT" stuff is just playing the youtube game. Hate it or love it we all have to do it. (Im prob the most honest about it), however what I am mostly trying to avoid is inexperienced players spreading themselves too thin struggling at end game not understanding why and then quitting. Using myself as an example I feel is perfect imo, and albeit dramatic it does grab attention and hopefully reaches people who need it.

    • @FilmFlam-8008
      @FilmFlam-8008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Valkyrja i understand the TH-cam game, but you could add some clarity that this will not matter in about a year or so if you are still playing the game.
      You may want to make a dedicated video on it. (An idea for you)
      The game is fun, but it is casual as well. It is just harder to see that because it is early and people are looking at the “abyss” as content you have to play and not just an end-game place to mess around with your high level characters.

    • @FilmFlam-8008
      @FilmFlam-8008 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thatonecomment6893 exactly. And at this point in Genshin, it is better to c6 Benny. His infusion aids in breaking shields, and there are more than enough dedicated supports or EM dendro teams that don’t even care about attack for it to matter.

  • @liquid_cheese9930
    @liquid_cheese9930 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I leveled a bunch of characters to 40 gauged their potential and picked 7 that I will be drafting with and took those to 50 (still hoping for Tingyun for 8th slot). Then I will only be taking my dps characters to 60 while supports will just be ascended and kept at 50 for the time being

  • @XLbuffLive
    @XLbuffLive ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You need at least 8 units for the forgotten hall. But realisticly more because of different shields etc. This mode will be whale oriented for months. Can't say it's worth worrying about tho, kinda like Abyss in Genshin. I rather play sim worlds in HSR.

  • @001-x1b
    @001-x1b ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't mind so much. I can quick grind on auto. Log off the game and work on my comission drawings/do housework etc. Then a few hours later repeat it again. I have about 5 characters past lvl 40 and 2 lvl 50s.

  • @Reason4Termination
    @Reason4Termination ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ermm.. that is basically how it was in Genshin. Blast 3 DPS characters to full, support characters to just about right. Because spiral abyss will need you to have 3 teams end game. Never use your energy refill for the level up. Use it for the 5 star relic dungeon.

    • @shinstar4269
      @shinstar4269 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, personally i only have my most used 5* to 90, all the rest of the 4* i use are either at 70 or 80, with level 5-7 talents (unless i was lucky enough to get cons so their talents are bounced up to 9-10).

  • @Rafocs
    @Rafocs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro why people really like to exaggerate this kind of sht, just like genshin "omg don't c6 your bennet like me or your account is ruined" it doesn't really matter memory of chaos will get easier sooner or later, like in spiral abyss i don't even need 5 star character nor weapon anymore to get the full star

  • @SM-tf3li
    @SM-tf3li ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only content where you need your characters above lvl50 right now is memory of chaos so there is no need to push characters to lvl60 unless your focus is that.

  • @Panda8499.
    @Panda8499. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bro the game just game out a little over a week ago no shit your not gonna be able to magically get your characters to max level no matter how much money you decide to waste doing it

  • @Kunoichi4ever4
    @Kunoichi4ever4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah the grind is gonna be crazy either way...forgotten hall requires 8 characters and I totally forsee Hoyo in the future making most of the endgame enemies 1 elemental weakness only with more and more niche mechanics to force us to pull and build more characters.
    I think the main reason why they made the grind auto is so we couldnt complain too much.
    I also started levelling to 50 already a bit too many character coz I just wanted to try other teams out ..buuut I will have to stop myself, OR just accept a very slow progress...tho to be fair since I already finished the main story...there really aint nowhere to rush.

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 ปีที่แล้ว

      Every turn based game has auto option, it's not smth they thought for your ease 💀

    • @Kunoichi4ever4
      @Kunoichi4ever4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnd7760 The point still stands...you are trying to disprove the wrong part of the argument. Every game having it rather futher proofs its a mechanic to allows faster farming only on the surface while it actually wont be faster at all.

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kunoichi4ever4 but, of course, that's why i didnt say anything abt the rest, but only that.
      Sadly, as it happens to all life service turn based, after 1 year, things will get boring and/or dps check..

    • @Kunoichi4ever4
      @Kunoichi4ever4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnd7760 Yeah, I think I ll play this one only for the story I dont want this game to turn into a grindfest for me like Genshin did.

  • @Duke091
    @Duke091 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It does vary on a case-by-case basis, but every gacha does hit the point of becoming a grind fest and nothing else for a period of time. How soon you get to that point really depends on the type of player and how you manage your resources from the beginning. I haven't come across this issue since I'm only using the 8 free characters you get and have yet to summon, but for someone with a larger roster? Yes, your experience can come to a drag if you have a lot going on in your account.

  • @jairverplaats153
    @jairverplaats153 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Light cone xp and character xp are the only thing I've been farming daily. Haven't even done a lot of questing (just got fire trailblazer) but I assume I'll be getting plenty of resources from those.

  • @AMWGX
    @AMWGX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah as a ar58 in genshin and didn’t do that mistake I always focus on 1 character then move to another one in this game I have 7 at level 50 and when I hit Trailblazer 40 this week I will focus on 4 only then focus 1 max then another

  • @Likier86
    @Likier86 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There will be more resources during events etc. but yeah for first month or two people need to be carefull and focus on one team and then one unit at the time that is the best way.
    It will pass especially for f2p player with much less unit to work with. Whales training to build all units as they release that will be never ending pain.

  • @Nightstriker995
    @Nightstriker995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what I decided to do was ascend all my characters I am not using atm to phase 2 and focus on the characters I actually use those being MC, Seele, Tingyun when I actually get her. and Natasha. when Jing Yuan comes around i'll consider another team to build with him in it. but atm those 4 are my priority.

  • @fire_dragonhd9105
    @fire_dragonhd9105 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lmao this is literally like one of the first rules of all gachas. NEVER EVER spread your resources to everyone, always level up the main team first then slowly do a new unit after finishing the main team, and repeat

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 ปีที่แล้ว

      well if you're 10 like most of players, doubt they'll know that rule

    • @fire_dragonhd9105
      @fire_dragonhd9105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnd7760 true, true

  • @sebbvyse
    @sebbvyse ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I understand the concern but this is just a way to get people to keep on playing the game, if you got hella resources and could level up all your characters and beat the game super easy a lot less people would want to login on the daily.

  • @kathycoleman4648
    @kathycoleman4648 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As someone who has played Genshin and a handful of other gachas in the past three years, this was something I knew going in and that I was prepared for. I've ended up with a main team, for now, of Seele, Himeko, Natasha, and Bronya. Those are level 50. I also have my fire MC at 50 (since she'll potentially be needed for story things, so I figure keeping her leveled is logical.) and a level 40 March (who got replaced by Himeko).
    My main four will advanced through the grind, my MC will get stuff when I have a chance to advance her. And everything else will stay the heck still until that's done because I know that I need a set team to advance with the content. THEN I can look at adding a character here or there.

    • @Dro0zzy
      @Dro0zzy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ugh, everyone got Bronya so early, I'm stuck with Seele with Asta/Pela still for so long (not saying it's a bad duo, decent at most, but I really want Bronya)

  • @OdensRaven
    @OdensRaven ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its ok to work on 8 characters while focusing on just a few. You will need 2 teams for the major endgame content any. Right now im grinding 5 star relics each day. My seele is almost fully built so ill star working on yanqing next. Then tingyun and then natasha. Then ill start farming for my second team. But have 8 characters in mind and hope you get bailu

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว

      What I am doing is bouncing stuff around across like 6 characters. For HoM

    • @cedietheworld6024
      @cedietheworld6024 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Valkyrja you cant do that cuz some of it needs 2 party so its really safe to invest in atleast 8 units

    • @darknessrises948
      @darknessrises948 ปีที่แล้ว

      rn i have my main team in mind which is jing yuan (when he comes out), tingyun, welt, natasha, now the problem is the 2nd team because i only have natasha so i wont have a healer in my 2nd team but the 3 characters i plan on putting in the team is dan heng, fire mc, march

    • @cedietheworld6024
      @cedietheworld6024 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darknessrises948 march and fire mc can be the sustain in your second team. Just focus on def for both so you can sustain it with shields

  • @StrOyeR-
    @StrOyeR- ปีที่แล้ว

    I am mostly a saver. (if it isn't pulling) I mostly just focus on just my 4. I saved so much and now I have somewhere like 100 Traveler Guide, 300 Adventure Log's and 300 of the other. This may sound like a lot, but these barely get my characters to lvl 60.

  • @user-qr4jf4tv2x
    @user-qr4jf4tv2x ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at the end of the day i max every character. in genshin. even if i did the worst in star rail i'd still max it. after a 1-2 years. the artifact grind is far worser. but i did follow the advice of working on 4 characters only in genshin. but i got board of artifact domains i just maxed all character to 80-90 which is less painful

  • @UTU
    @UTU ปีที่แล้ว

    4-6 characters when 8 are needed? I suppose once you clear stage 15 you can focus, but otherwise don't we need 8 solid characters?

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah you can beat 15 with around 6 built units imo

    • @UTU
      @UTU ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Valkyrja just hit acc lvl 40, upgraded my main 5, i don't really have 6 to focus on right now but might find one that i really like as a 6th - thanks for all the great advice

  • @kungfupanda5172
    @kungfupanda5172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only lvl up my characters to try a different combos so I can surpass the battles 😭💀

  • @ZenshiOff
    @ZenshiOff ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nothing can surpass the epic seven grind for equipment and 6 starring characters and their skills

  • @0snddi
    @0snddi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got to TL 40 and ascended yesterday and thankfully, I had and ONLY farmed the materials of 4 characters. I successfully upgraded all of them and now I’m left with a little under a million credits. I had roughly 3 million to start with though.

    • @Spartan-sz7km
      @Spartan-sz7km ปีที่แล้ว

      Man it's 40+ blues for each character
      At least my selle is maxed and she's carrying everything

  • @rykersixx
    @rykersixx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My advice to any player without bailu or geppie is to make fire mc Natasha and March 3 of the units you level. In forgotten hall fire mc and March will be your survivability for a side and Natasha will be your healing for the other side.
    Mc you should level since they also seem required for certain missions regardless.
    Then pick a single target dps and an aoe dps. Work on those 5 units and when you have them ready for the next tier you can branch out to figuring out what other 3 characters to build so you have 8 units built for the two team forgotten hall. Supports like tingyun, Pela, and asta seem pretty safe to pick and likely whatever five star you did get can also be built for one of your teams.
    Happy trail blazing and don’t do what this mad man did to show by example 😂. Know you knew what you were getting yourself into but you have to be a special kind of crazy to do that……just like how I almost have 180 summons saved for jing and spent nothing on seele….but I do have hook Pela and Natasha 😂

    • @Spartan-sz7km
      @Spartan-sz7km ปีที่แล้ว

      Well in hindsight I'm incredibly lucky to get bailu and gepard

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 ปีที่แล้ว

      He clearly said he's doing that for you dummies to showcase stuff. if viewers are that dumb to do it, so be it..

  • @Nataninko
    @Nataninko ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Huh I have 5 characters at level 50 and most of the rest at 40
    I got Selee after I got to level 50 with serval so... rip I guess...
    I'm still not done with the story though.

  • @Levonshi
    @Levonshi ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the game because Its mostly a waiting game for the trailblazing energy or whatever to recharge and I just gotta log in for like 30 minutes a day to spend the resin and do simulated universe, forgotten hall and all those stuff during the weekend and 1 quest a day.

  • @AmakusaWorld
    @AmakusaWorld ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Specially if you go the FTP route right? Not wasting money at all, reason number 3 why im stuck in GI. That + available time for me to play the game xD

  • @HHH-rf2hv
    @HHH-rf2hv ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing to note, we dont get any event yet, and in genshin or gacha game in general, event contribute a good chunk of upgrade material

  • @Nyxio_
    @Nyxio_ ปีที่แล้ว

    It does sting now that I have finished story and am TB40+ but there is literally no quests to do and just grind left now. So the only thing I find entertaining is to make an alt.

  • @t3chfx13
    @t3chfx13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Genshin was my first gacha and I did this exact same thing and was just hard stuck cause I was getting destroyed in the new world tier and I just quit. I ended up coming back when they added the ability to drop down a tier and fixed my account after awhile. I won't lie though I absolutely feel the urge to level them all in Star Rail even though I know it will screw me over lol

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL Yeah Im doing it for a specific reason. I HIGHLY recommend not doing this

  • @christianx2s438
    @christianx2s438 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know man, I have a single strategy, I need a DPS of every Element and their supports built up to where I can make use of them somehow in a dire situation and focus on a single 3-4 Chars Team, specially Neutral Elements and max them out

  • @shd_samurai9676
    @shd_samurai9676 ปีที่แล้ว

    I basically invested in two groups. One with Erudition / Support swap. Other one with Destruction / Support swap. Hopefully we'll only ever need two groups of 4 for any content.

  • @hellohororo1075
    @hellohororo1075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmmm, pretty sure we need variety here so leveling around 8 or more character is reasonable. In my case, I only try to invest on my supports to some extent, then focus on the DPSs. Also, you will have much time before you hit TL 40 so I guess you can use that time to farm ascension mats - not 4* relics that will eventually get replaced.
    Q: But there are 5* relics available in World 5 and 6.
    A: I'm also doing that since I already farmed ascension mats for my main units.

  • @Kvjesm
    @Kvjesm ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going from one to the next building the relics they need and will start leveling onward when they're usable

  • @ZenshiOff
    @ZenshiOff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol, everyone always forgets that it’s just like Genshin. If you try to max every character is Genshin, you’re fcked

  • @ronnyrdr6553
    @ronnyrdr6553 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need more than 4 characters. Unless you know the ins and outs like some other streamers getting the info from beta players. Getting you through world 6 in a little over a week. You are going to suffer with only 4 characters. I've upgraded the 3 best support my account has and then 1 characters of each element to break/dmg with. That's about 8-9 characters i've considered lvling since it's just the best way to go since break and speed management is super important in this game.

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว

      Dont need to know the ins and outs for sim u lol. Just use abundance its very broken. I made a ton of vids on it.

  • @ElevatesGA
    @ElevatesGA ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking the update will offer more ways to lvl up. the nameless glory will reset in 5 days (of course you have to pay but its not much). Events will give us exp drops and other drops just like the tournament did. More mission rewards will appear too (the npcs with limited repeat missions).
    Memory resets every 13 days and lvl 60 characters seem to do the trick. We'll just have to see what Hoyo has learned from genshin and see how they apply the update.

  • @allnamesaretakenful
    @allnamesaretakenful ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 4 characters at level 50. Dan is at level 40, March 7th and Serval are at level 37. The rest are around 20.

  • @ravenmanansala101
    @ravenmanansala101 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm hard focusing on dps and just half building the suports, currently building 8 characters for memory thingy.

  • @gustavobreno9699
    @gustavobreno9699 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well i guess when events make their appearance is going to be helpfull but is still going to be grindy

  • @ikkihiro8169
    @ikkihiro8169 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my opinion, you can level all the characters, BUT only when you unlock the specific chokepoints where you'd get the ticket, and even then, maybe wait a bit since not only do you have to grind for levels, but also light cones and traces, so that's exp mats for 3 things, but also mats for trace unlocking and ascention

  • @jeltevl8868
    @jeltevl8868 ปีที่แล้ว

    honestly most gacha's take a lot more resources to lvl chars up. (like there are some where it takes a full month to lvl a char from 1 to max.)
    But ye only focus on 4 chars (or 5 if you have teams off 5) is the one thing that every person that is a bit more experienced with gacha games have learned the hard way.

  • @shirio45
    @shirio45 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think its pretty good if a game is a bit more grindy cause then i dont get bored and finish too quickly

  • @scaramouche7759
    @scaramouche7759 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the supports and shield breakers stay at 60, and then the dps units go to 70 first. And rinse and repeat going from 70 to 80. Supports and shield breakers stay 10 levels behind since they don’t need to be on same level as enemies for max dps. Although not sure about shield breakers if enemy level impacts their shield breaking.

  • @mimichuchu3267
    @mimichuchu3267 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean...it's...the same logic you should follow in genshin in early game...or any other game with this style of gameplay. Also pull for what you need (Always in early). But yeah I noticed characters need more exp the higher they get.

  • @notimportantkween8548
    @notimportantkween8548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair, you can do this and take your game slower and build everyone. To each their own, depends on what you prefer. Game is single player anyways so you won’t be ‘behind’. Game is not a competition.

  • @jackedlantern3520
    @jackedlantern3520 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I’m saving up my exp for jing yuan, but I’m also farming up for the materials because it is WORSE than the exp shortage. Legit you only get so little material yet you need loads for their traces

  • @last_station_online6309
    @last_station_online6309 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 8 characters that I'm building right now but 4 most important characters take priority, the other 4 , i just build them just to make them work.

  • @revo5124
    @revo5124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im not that far into the game and still trailblaze level 22 but it's Still helpful since i was considering leveling other characters not taking the resources into account.

  • @WalterWhite-jz7ct
    @WalterWhite-jz7ct ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats why you level 2 Teams, A and B with heavy emphasis on A to max first and leave the rest at 20. I got my Main team (Selee, Bronja, Nat and MC) at 60 and working currently on Team B (Gepard, Tingyun, Serval and Shshang though they are not a real Team but a filler Basis since i got 3 5 stars in a row i didnt want Bronja e1, Himeko LC and Gepard so i goota make due -..- )

  • @LimboInside
    @LimboInside ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still looking for the "ruin your account" part.

  • @benjaminbiller1387
    @benjaminbiller1387 ปีที่แล้ว

    My plan is fairly straightforward:
    1. Aiming for two teams at 50 for now, other characters can be 40, maybe 45, as the world creep is going to hit. I just got equilibrium 2, so once I start on the third destination in full (you have to get there to be allowed to travel back to the other two, for those who don't know). It does seem like the side quests should have gotten a bit better organized with the story (or it could be a set server reset to trigger those to unlock once you have story pieces out of the way, I don't know. I do keep seeing some red text flash in on occasion. I may set up a recording to see if I can then catch it).
    2. As to Light Cones: If they are on characters I'm using in a team or swapping in for specific weakness advantages, max those for the world level. If they are not assigned to someone, leave them alone other than combining for the s5 and locking them so they don't get vacuumed into a Cone upgrade. Planning that 3* are four copies, then extras beyond that are fodderable. 4* I haven't decided other than combining (those autolock already), as for 5*, those are already locked. If those 5* are geared to someone, that someone gets them and combining is a good idea should I happen to get lucky enough to get an extra. Naturally, I am keeping any Cones I get with the above rules in mind, and Relics are going to follow suit. Yes, I may start using 2* Relics as fodder, but I need a good supply first.
    3. As to grind, I am using the daily resource without resets at least until I hit guaranteed stuff for the Relic farming, then fuel can be used for those and material farming, though the Synthesizer is going to help with some of that.
    4. Daily assignments are 20 hours, as I'm in once a day anyway, as to if we will get farming speed up characters in future, who knows, but if we do, I'll use them. Naturally, I set all the assignments I can (currently, I'm at 3 a day. It should go up as I level up).
    5. As to where to pause the world level, I haven't decided that. For Genshin I was at 45 for quite a while until Dragonspine, then I had to get characters up to 70, so a double ascension was needed (I had the points and resources for the main team to do it, though weapons and skills were very low level (6's or so on skills, weapons were at max for AR45 at the time). That was a rough couple of runs to do. I don't want to run into that again. Three Ruin Guards at once is still a rough fight, but doable, depending on the team I'm running at that time (a resource hunt team with Niggong in it still suffers a bit, I'm working on that though).
    As to anything else, that will depend on how things go, and my plan can and will change depending on results. I am working on March 7th as she is going to be a key member aside from the MC, though I may not revisit physical MC until much later on when everyone else is maxed out, but I am planning an eventual all max level setup, but it will be done in steps, hence the initial plan above.

  • @cyrleaozora4173
    @cyrleaozora4173 ปีที่แล้ว

    8 characters is definitely a must. You don't go any lower than that given how much damage you need to do on Memory of Chaos.
    12 cycles in TOTAL for 4 bosses over 2 teams

    • @cyrleaozora4173
      @cyrleaozora4173 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or if you want to no life this game you can grind every enemy on the map which nets you about half the exp needed to level up for each of your whole party at around level 55 or so

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8 eventually, 6 for now is fine.

  • @2265Hello
    @2265Hello ปีที่แล้ว

    If you wanna get all the characters to 60 and up it’s going to take a while and it’s when they expect players to either slow down a lot leveling up wise or just buy the battle pass to be a low spender

  • @egg44445
    @egg44445 ปีที่แล้ว

    I needed to see this two days ago before i started leveling up almost every character i have since i need certain characters for the spiral abyss of this game.
    Now my poor welt is sitting at lv 54 :(

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not welt. :^(

    • @darknessrises948
      @darknessrises948 ปีที่แล้ว

      OH NO NOT WELT HIS SO GOOD D:
      anyways ill prob start building my 2nd team once i summon for jing yuan banner

  • @tonbuhd
    @tonbuhd ปีที่แล้ว

    Sup my Duuuu..... Right on for the heads up! Just got all my characters to level 50 and about to hit Trailblaze 40. I was just wondering how much the exp scaling was going to be when i came across this. Keep up the good work my duuu😎

  • @endymion6165
    @endymion6165 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a minor inconveninece at best since the exp node is quite easy and you can just auto it.
    Also, everyone will most likely lvl their desired characters first by instinct anyway.

  • @geron122
    @geron122 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still don't see how this ruins your account, first why is there such a need to rush everything? your not missing out on anything or losing some position in some leaderboard or any such thing, there's not even pvp to claim thats the reason. To me this only points to impatience. your claiming your going to be behind everybody right? who exactly are you going to be behind? There is no co-op, no interaction with anyone else other than a support, you 100% playing by yourself. There is no time limit on the current content so why rush (if an event was active maybe). Also the games only been out for roughly a week so my mind is kinda blown by this logic. the only people i see being affected by what your claiming is content creators who are trying to stay ahead of the curve of creating videos and such or whales. the average person playing a few hours a day isnt going be affected by this if they are playing causal so yes i do have to say your exaggerating your point way too much. In terms of building teams and focusing on a few units at a time is a general sense of playing any rpg gacha game. and if a person is not familar with that type of game sure informing them of such helps but to go as far as ruin your account.. that's beyond extreme.

  • @Aihana_Etsu
    @Aihana_Etsu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta say though levelling from 50 to 60 feels like a massive power spike and is well worth the investment

    • @Spartan-sz7km
      @Spartan-sz7km ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I went back to clap bronya's and Kafka's cheeks.

  • @pan0527
    @pan0527 ปีที่แล้ว

    the events really need to have their shops filled with mats otherwise i wouldnt know how to upgrade new units to a usable standard.

  • @alessandroflower3990
    @alessandroflower3990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Game is just out and probabily will have to wait a couple months before new story upgrades, just take your time upgrading chars and stuff.
    I don't think it is a mistake, first or later you will have all characters up to max, just start with main chars and once you max one go on the next one.

  • @Rennorijin
    @Rennorijin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You reckon it's fine to at least get the other characters to at least level 20 for ascension to get the passes?

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ofc lvl 20 is nothing

  • @alvinomghaha6942
    @alvinomghaha6942 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its anoyoying when i did my Equilibruim level plus i cant change it back, I will be draining my Trailblazer powers but i want to spend fuels on relics in late game, therefore slowing my progression, honkai SR did us dirty

  • @jfipas
    @jfipas ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably been predicted this since the way to obtain materials is already difficult since the beginning. Leveling some to level 50 already drained mine lol.

  • @s-pracing8514
    @s-pracing8514 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    60 TB power for 3 levels reallys isnt that bad. I was expecting 1 lvl or less. The real bottle neck on resources is relics because you change your build often and i think you need the stat boost from leveling your relics. So when you get better gear you need to spend resources to get each to atleast lvl6

  • @AzureBashXIII
    @AzureBashXIII ปีที่แล้ว

    Also as a F2P. Don't go and spend 100 Stellar Jades for 60 energy, Stick to just using 50 Stellar jades instead if you want to if your F2P or just not at all.

  • @B14SED
    @B14SED ปีที่แล้ว

    When i got gepard kinda got disappointed at first but put asta natasha tingyun on the team i finish world six with only level 50 characters like the massive shield the infinite hp the atk boost from both harmony game became easy

  • @xenoplethoraclips7414
    @xenoplethoraclips7414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imo the grind is completely fair, yes its heavy and yes it takes time, but the fact that you can auto negates alot of the work you would have to put in and basically just turns it into a time crunch, for the type of game honkai sr is, that being turn based with passive features, it needs to be hard to level up or everyone will eventually be maxed on everything, the time crunch makes it so only dedicated players will reach max level not just anyone and everyone if anything the grind could be harder and i still wouldn't complain. What im saying is its not Difficulty it just comes down to time, just have some patience and youll be max level in no time.

  • @17onyx_rvn
    @17onyx_rvn ปีที่แล้ว

    I only build and farm for the characters i need the most like seele, bronya, natasha, mc(both physical and fire), and yanqing. I still don't have the necessary support for seele and yanqing so im focusing on my 2 dps yanqing and seele. I don't do much forgotten hall but i always play simulated universe. If i don't play forgotten hall i know how much jades i'm not getting and I'm okay with it. I need more powerful team so i can defeat enemies in forgotten hall

  • @ayoolul8317
    @ayoolul8317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh no, what a nightmare. now cry

  • @youabsolutebaka3529
    @youabsolutebaka3529 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ill be focusing on one team until jing yuan comes out and then ill focus his team. I already have the books and trace materials from BP to lvl 60 my 4 character's on monday and i have 13 fuel for grinding relics. I will use 6 fuel on seele and then the daily resin on clara until i have decent sets and then start farming for jing yuan and his supports pre release so i can insta 60 him

  • @ArdyneusTheGod
    @ArdyneusTheGod ปีที่แล้ว

    At least I wasn’t planning on leveling every character to begin with.
    I may’ve level some characters to effectively fight some enemies at first. Now, I have a pretty solid team and only focus on them.
    However, getting a new 5* character may change that a little but it really depends.

  • @billdecou242
    @billdecou242 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yea its best to have a handful and then go back and work on them later. It will be a month or 2/3 before we are at the point where we are. If it is similar to Arknights or FGO then the events are the most effective way to get materials.
    If you have the $5 month pass you can do 3 refills a day and lose 50 Jade a day, which is made up from the Simulated Universe still get 700 a week positive (with the 5k limit). Or twice a day and have 25 left over.

  • @zuzu091
    @zuzu091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are better off focusing on traces first because Xp will be easier to get in the future once more content drops alongside an event after Seele's banner

  • @BellaK423
    @BellaK423 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll probably cap my current side characters at 50 relics should help them feel useful until later on.
    Then unless I get more 5*s I’ll only level up a few characters. Seele, Himeko, Protag and Tingyun.
    Edit: I’m still only level 37 atm. Basically waiting for the Weekly resets to start progressing again. So I’m definitely a bit behind but not by much because I’m using time to my advantage

  • @happydr_
    @happydr_ ปีที่แล้ว

    After leveling Seele, Bronya, and Natasha to 60 I realized I already ran out of level mats.

  • @Zora_Fox
    @Zora_Fox ปีที่แล้ว

    I will LvL every unit to 40 at some point, because i am am desperate for that free pull. But i know i need to fully build at least 8 charakters before i get there.

  • @justinross4575
    @justinross4575 ปีที่แล้ว

    If someone ever found themselves in this situation you should consider buying the battlepass because that gives a ton of upgrade materials

  • @blackdragonessgamer9252
    @blackdragonessgamer9252 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was deadly close in making this mistake in Genshin. Took about two weeks to even it out. Now I'm focused on Pela, Cerval, Pyro MC, Natasha, and slowly working on March. Kind of waiting for Silver Wolf or the psychic loli for second team.

    • @Spartan-sz7km
      @Spartan-sz7km ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf is the psychic loli, you mean fu Xuan or something (the one that interrogated Kafka?)

  • @ShervinTheMerlin
    @ShervinTheMerlin ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean iiits still early in the game and we dont have that much content too farm on. Maybe in the future update we will get some domains exclusivly to farming?

  • @jeremykonrote4667
    @jeremykonrote4667 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's crazy how we can beat all the simulated worlds at eq2

  • @Andy-ck9ti
    @Andy-ck9ti ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I recommend doing the genshin thing, where you ascend your healers and tanks and leave them at that level because the extra levels are not worth on them, u only need to unlock the next level up for abilities, and eventually when u'll stack up hundreds of exp books from events and so u'll level them

    • @santiagoserial3670
      @santiagoserial3670 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Big issue is this is not genshin there is no dodging or s, you will take damage, and healers scale of hp. if you arent leveling they aint healing shit, also u need 2 teams for the abyss

    • @santiagoserial3670
      @santiagoserial3670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so its not ike you can just get kokomi to lvl 70 with talent lvl 4 and a ttds and she will heal, thats not happening here

    • @JohnJillky
      @JohnJillky ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@santiagoserial3670 fr. I level my healers and tanks first in this game lmao

    • @Avarice_Alt
      @Avarice_Alt ปีที่แล้ว

      this isn't genshin, there isn't an active mitigation component like parrying or i-frames and our only options are shields and heals. Healers need to scale with the party in order to stay relevant cause 300 heal sounds good when everyone has 600hp but 300 heal is pretty garbage when everyone has 2000hp.

  • @damienvause6221
    @damienvause6221 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be fair hsr dont have events going rn that gives resource like in genshin. Im trying to remember what was it like in genshin 1.0+ I remember only focusing on 1 character and characters like kaeya and amber were so underleveled, just there to break fatui shields. No such thing as sub dps back then because well resource and everyone was clueless but I cant remember exactly how bad it was. I think genshin was worse

  • @figloalds
    @figloalds ปีที่แล้ว

    Mostly, don't auto-add
    It will spend your smallest books first and then add the large books for last
    You will potentially waste anywhere from 0 to 20000 exp each time you auto add to max a character

    • @Valkyrja
      @Valkyrja  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The game refunds you extra resources unless its smaller than the smallest resource.

    • @darknessrises948
      @darknessrises948 ปีที่แล้ว

      ..OH NO!!

  • @geniegerny
    @geniegerny ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean go farm lower difficulty levels in genshin and you will take about as much. Idk how much higher difficulty gives but my guess is its in the ballpark of the ammount in genshin.

  • @0bv1tsv4lk
    @0bv1tsv4lk ปีที่แล้ว

    I *only* level the characters who do good damage tbh im only ar 27 rn and my resources are 500 so I like saving those for really good character / up coming its way better than level up all characters and youtubers like you show us what characters to level up..

  • @faded_evil
    @faded_evil ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully there will be events that drop upgrade mats just like genshin.. so i just relax and enjoy the game

  • @andresvelazquez5922
    @andresvelazquez5922 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My recommendation is this:
    If free to play, just focus on the given characters. You don't even need to roll.
    If not free to play, roll until you've reached your budget before even playing the game and focus on the 4 characters you want to main.
    Once you've gotten to almost end game, or can't proceed anymore, you focus on getting more characters up to the level and using different strategies.