I quit listening to music I quit eating calories I quit wasting time I quit going out everyday I quit anger I quit being lazy Alhamdullilah my life is on
You have no need to prove god to a atheist, give the message and move on simple! Your duty is to give the message thats it, its god who guides to the truth, if they dont beleive then leave them to it!
Assalamu Alaikum! What if a person believes in God and says that God is one, but he doesn't believe in any scripture, saying that they were all created by man?
As an atheist I want to thank you for this video but also have to point out that there are some logical errors in your arguments. First of all, live does not mean that universe is some way tuned for that. There are number of observable galaxies is around 2 trillion. That means quite good probability for livable planets also. Secondly, there is such a thing as randomness. The meaning for that is that there are way too many factors for us to predict what is going to happen. And that is also meant by that live became from random events. Third, none of this proofs that there had to be some body "intelligent" designing this all. Many things happen naturally, live evolves so it can survive. Fourth, Even if this was result of intelligent design, it would not mean necessarily a god. We can be part of simulation for example. And finally, if there was a god it could be any of those humans have believed during history or something none of us know. So because of that, there isn't really a proof for existence of any god. Any way, I am happy that you have something that gives your live a purpose and you are happy with that. I have no intentions to try to debunk anything or proof anything wrong as it is meaningless, I wanted just point that out. I wish you all the best
Primeramente, la probabilidad es un cálculo que determina un porcentaje entre los casos favorables / posibles casos. Todos estos casos son experiencias humanas para determinar un porcentaje. El problema es que no tenemos en cuenta otras posibles causas como que una moneda caiga con su borde. Por lo tanto, la probabilidad o sucesos aleatorios no son causas de un efecto. ¿De hecho, si dices que algo aleatorio causa algo, el agente aleatorio de donde proviene? ¿Es la aleatoriedad un efecto de una cadena de cosas aleatorias? Segundamente, nosotros como musulmanes no rechazamos la idea de más creaciones de Allah que no conocemos, eso está en su sabiduría. Tercero, the fine tuning argument es uno muy sólido. Ya que el argumento principal contra este es que la aleatoriedad podría haber creado todo esto. Pero como hemos dicho, la aleatoriedad no es una cosa. Y si le asignas propiedades inteligentes y omnipotentes a la aleatoriedad, ya estás creyendo en un dios falso. El tema de la simulación es un argumento débil, ya que si esto fuese una simulación no aporta nada a tu historia, morimos todos y punto y final. No cambia nada ni aporta nada a tu argumentación y a más te vuelvo a preguntar ¿La simulación se creó sola o apareció de la nada? Y si la han creado, quien ha creado al creador de la simulación... Infinite regress of dependent things cant happen.
@@OMAR-mp5ex Randomness is a thing. Your coin toss example is a good one. If you flip a coin enough times, it will eventually land on it's side. The system was not fine tuned so that it would happen, it just will happen. Enough repetition and eventually something very unlikely (like livable planet) will happen. And I find it strange that many believers (no matter what god they are believing in) say that something had to be before everything began. But a God can break that rule. So basically we end up having an discussion with different rules.
1. We can't prove it by saying quite good probability just like I would say quite a bad probability like wise number of wrong decisions exceeds the correct ones. 2. Randomness is artificial. For example, you say a random guy appeared in ikea, you say this because you don't know from which country, city, street, home, road he came from-- Randomness is an artificial category for something human can not explain at that moment. 3. Had there been no intelligent creator, then I would believe the randomness but therefore, I don't think we would see regular laws of nature and I don't think every animal human would have survival instinct and in fact, a random will be the case within these biological entities, causing ecosystem to change quite often and a change in food chain pyramid arguably every second. 4. In a simulation, free will would not exist, you can say this universe is a simulation but there has to be a simulator to say the least. 5. You say any of those humans but however they thought god is sun or moon in times Abraham lived in this is the narrative in Quran (anyone can correct me if it is hadith rather). Do you think what they believed is feasible, you might be making 'appeal to possibility fallacy'. Also, regarding this in Islam there is the term 'fitrah' meaning humans have tendency to believe in god. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: Every child is born upon the fitrah (natural inclination toward faith), and it is his parents who make him a Jew, Christian, or Zoroastrian..." (Sahih Muslim). So, you see in history there were worshipers for mask, statue or whatnot any ridicilous thing via forefathers etc. You could say this is exactly why religions are not reliable, but we believe quran is preserved and this fitrah is given by god Surah Ar-Rum (30:30): "So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know." These are my all answers to your objections inshallah you be alive and answer this I'm curious about your reply. Moreover, please do not have the perception that reason and religion is split. There is a cause why people particularly in west thinks like that there is an explanation on twitter by @RealHasanSpiker Cambridge graduate, Muslim revert if you don't find it I can send the link then you can do your own research about his list of explanations. Peace.
@@Swagtorian 1. The problem with "proofing" is that only science needs to be proofed, but religion does not. So again we are playing with two rule sets. I think, that if my view have to follow the rules set by science, it is only logical that I can not accept anything that does not follow those same rules. 2. How is randomness artificial? If you throw a dice, don't you agree that the outcome is random? 3. By the regular laws of nature no god can exist as it would be super-natural. 4. Why wouldn't a free will exist in simulation? If we could create an AI that is really able to think like a human, it would also have a free will, right? Humans have tendency to believe in gods, magic, super-natural etc. because humans need explanations for things they do not understand. And as another atheist ones said, you and I are very similar: we both think that there are many "false religions". I just think there is one more than you think. As you don't believe in all the other Gods, I don't believe in those and that one you believe in. There are many holy texts older than Quran so for me that does not proof anything else than that it is old. I want to emphasize that this is what I believe and I don't try to debunk your religion or anything. With respect.
We only have one universe so it’s a very small sample size, Maybe the universe couldn’t be any other way…. Show me a universe that isn’t fine-tuned? Most of the planets show no life, so hardly shows fine-tuned for life, people have died from. Hurricanes, tornadoes, lightning, volcanic eruptions etc etc, through evolution we have over time adapted to our environment…..
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgment as to the reality of any particular god until sufficient credible evidence is presented. My position is that *_I currently have no good reason to acknowledge the reality of any god._* And here is why I currently hold to such a position. Below are 11 facts I must consider when evaluating the claim made by certain theists that a particular god exists in reality. To be clear, these are not premises for any argument which _concludes_ there to be no gods. These are simply facts I must take into account when evaluating the verity of such a claim. If any of the following facts were to be contravened at a later time by evidence, experience, or sound argument, I would THEN have good reason to acknowledge such a reality. 1. I have never been presented with a functional definition of a god. 2. I personally have never observed a god. 3. I have never encountered any person who has claimed to have observed a god. 4. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 5. I have never been presented with any _valid_ logical argument, which also introduced demonstrably true premises that lead deductively to an inevitable conclusion that a god(s) exists in reality. 6. Of the many logical syllogisms I have examined arguing for the reality of a god(s), I have found all to contain a formal or informal logical fallacy or a premise that can not be demonstrated to be true. 7. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 8. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 9. I have never knowingly experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 10. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed appears to have *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 11. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have been presented have either been refuted to my satisfaction or do not present as _falsifiable._ ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the reality of any particular god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgment until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstantiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
I have found atheists to hold a (religious) belief that there is no God. Lacking any evidence, their belief is just like any religion. "Proof" is whatever you are willing to accept, or not. Truth is not 'falsifiable'!
--- Introduction --- I dont have to go through all the objective evidences for Islam's truth (scientific miracles, fufilled prophecies, preservation of the Qur'an and Hadith, non-contradictions, the Qur'an linguistic miracles, the Prophet's truthfulness and trustworthiness, etc). Which in turn (Islam's truth) would necessitate the belief in Allah. Nor do I have to disprove each claim to disbelief in Allah which you made, some of which truly expose the reality of the lack of knowledge you possess (especially your claims from 1 to 5). I don't doubt in the slightest that you've been exposed to a great deal of evidence. Of which being as clear and as objective as the two hands you have in front of you. I don't doubt that at all, maybe you've done lots of research. Therefore, rather than taking an approach wherein I present my rational argument, I want you and I to explore the internal aspects, that which we feel within us. --- Idea from a logic perspective --- Rather I'm inviting you to something that is way more powerful as an evidence. It is found in every human and does not require any knowledge, reasoning or philosophy (by which can be proven regardless). It's magtitude as a proof is so clear, so undeniable simply by the mere fact that you have unknowlingly acknowledged the notion of a God. I'm inviting you to recognize what is referred to in islamic theology as the fitrah (natural disposition). In very simple terms, If I said to you "God", why is it as though you already KNOW what I'm saying? Very simply, I'm making the proposition that no one taught you this and that mankind was born with this innate knowledge. No individual would object, on the basis of an intuitive and psychological standpoint, that humans have a tendency to perceive reality with the internal or mental presence of God's existence. A wise man once said, "why is it that wherever homo sapiens go and do, they are always homo religiosus." --- Idea from the Islamic perspective --- Now from the Islamic paradigm. The covenant that Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, took from the progeny of Adam in the previous life has not been erased from our memory and not one of the sons of Adam has forgotten it. It is the fitrah (natural inclination/sound human nature) which is instilled in our souls and hearts, that drives us to believe in Allah and long to know Him, may He be glorified. In fact, it reaches the level of urgency that pushes and compels us to acknowledge that the Creator, may He be glorified and exalted, is the only, perfect Lord Who bestows His blessings upon us and upon all other created beings. This spiritual and rational urge (to believe in Allah) is the strongest factor that prompts man to believe in Allah and affirm His Oneness, because it is usually stronger than any other impulses that may lead man to fall into ignorance and doubt. Often this urge (to believe) may overwhelm a person and make him realise the belief in divine Oneness (Tawheed) deep in his heart at times of crisis and calamity, even if the one who still has that sound natural inclination (fitrah) is pretending today to be an atheist. The call of Tawheed is still urging him from deep inside to believe, because of this natural inclination (fitrah) which is the first covenant taken from the sons of Adam. --- Reflection --- I'm inviting you to that which you might've not explored or fully understood. And I hope you can try to ponder over this new found idea. --- Proposition --- With this new found idea (called the fitrah) established, I'm challenging you to apply this into reality. To do an imperical experiement on the mental capacities of your mind. To test, bend, and play with the reality of the concept of the fitrah (natural disposition). The test to really feel if this notion is true, and it is merely a test upon oneself. This challenges requires 2 key conditions by necessity of the reality of the human mind and the challenge. 1) the individual must free his mind of any beliefs, ideas, mental constructs, pre-conceived notions, or methods of perception. One must completely let go of and/or rid himself of the knowledge which he's acquired through personal experience, family, society, and education. The individual is now in a state of psychological purity as this is the only way an individual can be receptive to fitrah (natural disposition). 2) It requires sincerity and the removal of any feelings of contempt or arrogance. There can't be any emotional or subjective disturbances. The intention is to carry out this experiment for the sake of honestly discovering the truth and it is not to lie to oneself. The challenge is to read the Qur'an. --- Outcome of the Proposition --- If anyone follows these instructions to the challenge, they will develop and in fact re-kindle this sensation of the fitrah (natural disposition of man). The sensation may be summed into the following: Knowing God, accountability, Good and evil, life and death's purpose. This sensation is in fact something I'm willing to claim will arise 100% on the condition 2 conditions (No pre-conceived ideas and pure sincerity). Thus, the individual will be compelled to accept Islam (the submission to one God). --- Preparation --- If you accept this proposition, it being composed of the challenge and its condition. Then now it's obligatory upon you to carry out this experiment without any question or concern. You will only need the Qur'an and to from it take a reasonable amount of doses every so and so until you finish it. Either download "Al-Qur'an" by Greentech Apps Foundation on playstore or listen to the youtube playlist "Quran: Arabic and English translation and transliteration" by The Meaning of Islam. An additional recommended act is to read the book called "Homo Religiosus?" It explores the roots of religion and religious freedom in human experience. If you reject this proposition and that which it is composed of, then feel free to respond to me and bring up any ideas, questions or objections. Take care man, peace.
@@Hydrogen9999😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 You haven’t given ANY EVIDENCE! for your sky fairy ‘God’ in your long rambling comment. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Give me the EVIDENCE! for your ‘God’ I’LL WAIT!!!!! 😂🤣😂
My friend. Just read Quran once and decide for yourself. If it convinces you that’s great but it doesn’t you will gain some knowledge what the muslims believe in.
@@umairmukhtar6702 Try reading and understanding what I wrote. FYI, I downloaded a copy in English translation some time ago out of curiosity. I have got far yet but again mere words, it won't make a difference.
No problem, tell me what you are willing to accept that will convince you. Proof is just whatever you, personally, are willing to accept. What is your definition of Reality?
@nameless-yd6ko I am willing to CONSIDER and ACCEPT all _evidentiary facts_ and _sound_ arguments. Such will necessarily convince me. I haven't any choice in matter of which I believe. I will either be convinced of a presentation or I won't be. In the past, and for numerous issues, I have been convinced of convictions I did not hold at the time.
@@nameless-yd6ko Proof has nothing to do with my willingness. Proofs are for mathematical problems and axioms. I don't desire proof. I desire sufficient credible evidence or a sound argument that DEMONSTRATES a particular god exists in reality.
@nameless-yd6ko My definition of reality is the realm in which all phenomena occur. All realities (objects, events, substances, entities, processes, systems, beings, etc.) occur at a particular point in space (location) at a particular point in time and are _observable_ at such location and time.
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I'm so glad I found this channel; Mohammed HIjab may God bless you and allow your knowledge to reach the hearts of all people
I quit listening to music
I quit eating calories
I quit wasting time
I quit going out everyday
I quit anger
I quit being lazy
Alhamdullilah my life is on
I have to say that’s an excellent picture Allahumma barik
JazakAllah'u khairan
Alhamdulillah... barokah...aamiin
Are they in Sweden now? I would love to meet
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You have no need to prove god to a atheist, give the message and move on simple! Your duty is to give the message thats it, its god who guides to the truth, if they dont beleive then leave them to it!
Mashallah.
Assalamu Alaikum! What if a person believes in God and says that God is one, but he doesn't believe in any scripture, saying that they were all created by man?
He has to test and explore the scriptures
i got thirsty and drank water with brother Hijab........
There’s no other option……..er spoke to scientists mate ?
As an atheist I want to thank you for this video but also have to point out that there are some logical errors in your arguments. First of all, live does not mean that universe is some way tuned for that. There are number of observable galaxies is around 2 trillion. That means quite good probability for livable planets also. Secondly, there is such a thing as randomness. The meaning for that is that there are way too many factors for us to predict what is going to happen. And that is also meant by that live became from random events. Third, none of this proofs that there had to be some body "intelligent" designing this all. Many things happen naturally, live evolves so it can survive. Fourth, Even if this was result of intelligent design, it would not mean necessarily a god. We can be part of simulation for example. And finally, if there was a god it could be any of those humans have believed during history or something none of us know. So because of that, there isn't really a proof for existence of any god.
Any way, I am happy that you have something that gives your live a purpose and you are happy with that. I have no intentions to try to debunk anything or proof anything wrong as it is meaningless, I wanted just point that out. I wish you all the best
Primeramente, la probabilidad es un cálculo que determina un porcentaje entre los casos favorables / posibles casos. Todos estos casos son experiencias humanas para determinar un porcentaje. El problema es que no tenemos en cuenta otras posibles causas como que una moneda caiga con su borde. Por lo tanto, la probabilidad o sucesos aleatorios no son causas de un efecto. ¿De hecho, si dices que algo aleatorio causa algo, el agente aleatorio de donde proviene? ¿Es la aleatoriedad un efecto de una cadena de cosas aleatorias? Segundamente, nosotros como musulmanes no rechazamos la idea de más creaciones de Allah que no conocemos, eso está en su sabiduría. Tercero, the fine tuning argument es uno muy sólido. Ya que el argumento principal contra este es que la aleatoriedad podría haber creado todo esto. Pero como hemos dicho, la aleatoriedad no es una cosa. Y si le asignas propiedades inteligentes y omnipotentes a la aleatoriedad, ya estás creyendo en un dios falso. El tema de la simulación es un argumento débil, ya que si esto fuese una simulación no aporta nada a tu historia, morimos todos y punto y final. No cambia nada ni aporta nada a tu argumentación y a más te vuelvo a preguntar ¿La simulación se creó sola o apareció de la nada? Y si la han creado, quien ha creado al creador de la simulación... Infinite regress of dependent things cant happen.
@@OMAR-mp5ex Randomness is a thing. Your coin toss example is a good one. If you flip a coin enough times, it will eventually land on it's side. The system was not fine tuned so that it would happen, it just will happen. Enough repetition and eventually something very unlikely (like livable planet) will happen. And I find it strange that many believers (no matter what god they are believing in) say that something had to be before everything began. But a God can break that rule. So basically we end up having an discussion with different rules.
1. We can't prove it by saying quite good probability just like I would say quite a bad probability like wise number of wrong decisions exceeds the correct ones. 2. Randomness is artificial. For example, you say a random guy appeared in ikea, you say this because you don't know from which country, city, street, home, road he came from-- Randomness is an artificial category for something human can not explain at that moment. 3. Had there been no intelligent creator, then I would believe the randomness but therefore, I don't think we would see regular laws of nature and I don't think every animal human would have survival instinct and in fact, a random will be the case within these biological entities, causing ecosystem to change quite often and a change in food chain pyramid arguably every second. 4. In a simulation, free will would not exist, you can say this universe is a simulation but there has to be a simulator to say the least. 5. You say any of those humans but however they thought god is sun or moon in times Abraham lived in this is the narrative in Quran (anyone can correct me if it is hadith rather). Do you think what they believed is feasible, you might be making 'appeal to possibility fallacy'. Also, regarding this in Islam there is the term 'fitrah' meaning humans have tendency to believe in god. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: Every child is born upon the fitrah (natural inclination toward faith), and it is his parents who make him a Jew, Christian, or Zoroastrian..." (Sahih Muslim). So, you see in history there were worshipers for mask, statue or whatnot any ridicilous thing via forefathers etc. You could say this is exactly why religions are not reliable, but we believe quran is preserved and this fitrah is given by god Surah Ar-Rum (30:30):
"So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know." These are my all answers to your objections inshallah you be alive and answer this I'm curious about your reply. Moreover, please do not have the perception that reason and religion is split. There is a cause why people particularly in west thinks like that there is an explanation on twitter by @RealHasanSpiker Cambridge graduate, Muslim revert if you don't find it I can send the link then you can do your own research about his list of explanations. Peace.
@@Swagtorian 1. The problem with "proofing" is that only science needs to be proofed, but religion does not. So again we are playing with two rule sets. I think, that if my view have to follow the rules set by science, it is only logical that I can not accept anything that does not follow those same rules. 2. How is randomness artificial? If you throw a dice, don't you agree that the outcome is random? 3. By the regular laws of nature no god can exist as it would be super-natural. 4. Why wouldn't a free will exist in simulation? If we could create an AI that is really able to think like a human, it would also have a free will, right? Humans have tendency to believe in gods, magic, super-natural etc. because humans need explanations for things they do not understand. And as another atheist ones said, you and I are very similar: we both think that there are many "false religions". I just think there is one more than you think. As you don't believe in all the other Gods, I don't believe in those and that one you believe in.
There are many holy texts older than Quran so for me that does not proof anything else than that it is old. I want to emphasize that this is what I believe and I don't try to debunk your religion or anything. With respect.
@@Soundsinthevoid Randomness is basically human ignorance and inability to calculate all the variables.
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Muslims claim nothing can come from nothing. But then claim god didn’t come from nothing because he’s eternal. So why can’t the universe be eternal ?
lol
er...spoke to astrophysicist mate?
U see his argument is only based on life meaning😂😂 they have no meaning
Science literally proven that the universe had a start!
We only have one universe so it’s a very small sample size, Maybe the universe couldn’t be any other way…. Show me a universe that isn’t fine-tuned? Most of the planets show no life, so hardly shows fine-tuned for life, people have died from. Hurricanes, tornadoes, lightning, volcanic eruptions etc etc, through evolution we have over time adapted to our environment…..
1400 years and this is the best argument for God muslims have? yikes
ex muslim atheist here lol
Why do you need to prove God? Isn’t it obvious as you guys claim? I can’t fathom your logic 😶
Not a good argument. Now what?
which part?
@@azharabdulrahman7803all of it
@@adityaverma0603 oh ok
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgment as to the reality of any particular god until sufficient credible evidence is presented. My position is that *_I currently have no good reason to acknowledge the reality of any god._*
And here is why I currently hold to such a position. Below are 11 facts I must consider when evaluating the claim made by certain theists that a particular god exists in reality. To be clear, these are not premises for any argument which _concludes_ there to be no gods. These are simply facts I must take into account when evaluating the verity of such a claim. If any of the following facts were to be contravened at a later time by evidence, experience, or sound argument, I would THEN have good reason to acknowledge such a reality.
1. I have never been presented with a functional definition of a god.
2. I personally have never observed a god.
3. I have never encountered any person who has claimed to have observed a god.
4. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity.
5. I have never been presented with any _valid_ logical argument, which also introduced demonstrably true premises that lead deductively to an inevitable conclusion that a god(s) exists in reality.
6. Of the many logical syllogisms I have examined arguing for the reality of a god(s), I have found all to contain a formal or informal logical fallacy or a premise that can not be demonstrated to be true.
7. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon.
8. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._
9. I have never knowingly experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event.
10. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed appears to have *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity.
11. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have been presented have either been refuted to my satisfaction or do not present as _falsifiable._
ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the reality of any particular god.
I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgment until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstantiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._*
I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
I have found atheists to hold a (religious) belief that there is no God. Lacking any evidence, their belief is just like any religion.
"Proof" is whatever you are willing to accept, or not.
Truth is not 'falsifiable'!
--- Introduction ---
I dont have to go through all the objective evidences for Islam's truth (scientific miracles, fufilled prophecies, preservation of the Qur'an and Hadith, non-contradictions, the Qur'an linguistic miracles, the Prophet's truthfulness and trustworthiness, etc). Which in turn (Islam's truth) would necessitate the belief in Allah.
Nor do I have to disprove each claim to disbelief in Allah which you made, some of which truly expose the reality of the lack of knowledge you possess (especially your claims from 1 to 5).
I don't doubt in the slightest that you've been exposed to a great deal of evidence. Of which being as clear and as objective as the two hands you have in front of you. I don't doubt that at all, maybe you've done lots of research. Therefore, rather than taking an approach wherein I present my rational argument, I want you and I to explore the internal aspects, that which we feel within us.
--- Idea from a logic perspective ---
Rather I'm inviting you to something that is way more powerful as an evidence. It is found in every human and does not require any knowledge, reasoning or philosophy (by which can be proven regardless). It's magtitude as a proof is so clear, so undeniable simply by the mere fact that you have unknowlingly acknowledged the notion of a God. I'm inviting you to recognize what is referred to in islamic theology as the fitrah (natural disposition).
In very simple terms, If I said to you "God", why is it as though you already KNOW what I'm saying? Very simply, I'm making the proposition that no one taught you this and that mankind was born with this innate knowledge.
No individual would object, on the basis of an intuitive and psychological standpoint, that humans have a tendency to perceive reality with the internal or mental presence of God's existence.
A wise man once said, "why is it that wherever homo sapiens go and do, they are always homo religiosus."
--- Idea from the Islamic perspective ---
Now from the Islamic paradigm. The covenant that Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, took from the progeny of Adam in the previous life has not been erased from our memory and not one of the sons of Adam has forgotten it. It is the fitrah (natural inclination/sound human nature) which is instilled in our souls and hearts, that drives us to believe in Allah and long to know Him, may He be glorified. In fact, it reaches the level of urgency that pushes and compels us to acknowledge that the Creator, may He be glorified and exalted, is the only, perfect Lord Who bestows His blessings upon us and upon all other created beings.
This spiritual and rational urge (to believe in Allah) is the strongest factor that prompts man to believe in Allah and affirm His Oneness, because it is usually stronger than any other impulses that may lead man to fall into ignorance and doubt. Often this urge (to believe) may overwhelm a person and make him realise the belief in divine Oneness (Tawheed) deep in his heart at times of crisis and calamity, even if the one who still has that sound natural inclination (fitrah) is pretending today to be an atheist. The call of Tawheed is still urging him from deep inside to believe, because of this natural inclination (fitrah) which is the first covenant taken from the sons of Adam.
--- Reflection ---
I'm inviting you to that which you might've not explored or fully understood. And I hope you can try to ponder over this new found idea.
--- Proposition ---
With this new found idea (called the fitrah) established, I'm challenging you to apply this into reality. To do an imperical experiement on the mental capacities of your mind. To test, bend, and play with the reality of the concept of the fitrah (natural disposition). The test to really feel if this notion is true, and it is merely a test upon oneself.
This challenges requires 2 key conditions by necessity of the reality of the human mind and the challenge.
1) the individual must free his mind of any beliefs, ideas, mental constructs, pre-conceived notions, or methods of perception. One must completely let go of and/or rid himself of the knowledge which he's acquired through personal experience, family, society, and education. The individual is now in a state of psychological purity as this is the only way an individual can be receptive to fitrah (natural disposition).
2) It requires sincerity and the removal of any feelings of contempt or arrogance. There can't be any emotional or subjective disturbances. The intention is to carry out this experiment for the sake of honestly discovering the truth and it is not to lie to oneself.
The challenge is to read the Qur'an.
--- Outcome of the Proposition ---
If anyone follows these instructions to the challenge, they will develop and in fact re-kindle this sensation of the fitrah (natural disposition of man). The sensation may be summed into the following: Knowing God, accountability, Good and evil, life and death's purpose.
This sensation is in fact something I'm willing to claim will arise 100% on the condition 2 conditions (No pre-conceived ideas and pure sincerity). Thus, the individual will be compelled to accept Islam (the submission to one God).
--- Preparation ---
If you accept this proposition, it being composed of the challenge and its condition. Then now it's obligatory upon you to carry out this experiment without any question or concern.
You will only need the Qur'an and to from it take a reasonable amount of doses every so and so until you finish it. Either download "Al-Qur'an" by Greentech Apps Foundation on playstore or listen to the youtube playlist "Quran: Arabic and English translation and transliteration" by The Meaning of Islam.
An additional recommended act is to read the book called "Homo Religiosus?" It explores the roots of religion and religious freedom in human experience.
If you reject this proposition and that which it is composed of, then feel free to respond to me and bring up any ideas, questions or objections.
Take care man, peace.
@@Hydrogen9999 So, do you believe I am _rationally justified_ in my position of atheism?
Are we stll copy/pasting this same tired old comment amongst multiple theistic channels for the last several years?
@@Hydrogen9999😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 You haven’t given ANY EVIDENCE! for your sky fairy ‘God’ in your long rambling comment. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Give me the EVIDENCE! for your ‘God’ I’LL WAIT!!!!! 😂🤣😂
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Won't work, mere words, whether written or spoken, will NEVER convince me of any deities. If any do, let them speak for themselves IN PERSON.
LOL. who are you? you are not that special? why would god show himself to you? is there a beneficial to the world if he show himself to you?
My friend. Just read Quran once and decide for yourself. If it convinces you that’s great but it doesn’t you will gain some knowledge what the muslims believe in.
@@blackparademcr92
We only have people making claims about deities. If any want "a relationship", let them come forward. I'm special to me BTW.
@@umairmukhtar6702
Try reading and understanding what I wrote. FYI, I downloaded a copy in English translation some time ago out of curiosity. I have got far yet but again mere words, it won't make a difference.
@@duncanbryson1167 Great, read it completely
I welcome anyone to try to convince me that a particular god exists in reality. I am all ears.
No problem, tell me what you are willing to accept that will convince you. Proof is just whatever you, personally, are willing to accept.
What is your definition of Reality?
Don't you already made your decision prior to any arguments, do you?
@nameless-yd6ko I am willing to CONSIDER and ACCEPT all _evidentiary facts_ and _sound_ arguments. Such will necessarily convince me. I haven't any choice in matter of which I believe. I will either be convinced of a presentation or I won't be. In the past, and for numerous issues, I have been convinced of convictions I did not hold at the time.
@@nameless-yd6ko Proof has nothing to do with my willingness. Proofs are for mathematical problems and axioms. I don't desire proof. I desire sufficient credible evidence or a sound argument that DEMONSTRATES a particular god exists in reality.
@nameless-yd6ko My definition of reality is the realm in which all phenomena occur. All realities (objects, events, substances, entities, processes, systems, beings, etc.) occur at a particular point in space (location) at a particular point in time and are _observable_ at such location and time.