Yeah, but at least they would have known when she would be off and when she'd be coming back to give notice to people about the thing. It would either require someone absolutely desperate for a job or has income from somewhere else to want that thing. Because I bet if she'd decided to only do work during the hours she was paid they would have canned her to find someone else who'd be willing to work on their own time and dime.
1)Not if a stand-in was located. 2)Big difference between _14 days._ And a permanent/sudden collapse. They were drastically her in the first place, which makes the management even more incompetent! (Does "hot take" really mean 'doesn't understand the idea of Delegation and Backing Up coworkers'?)
@@paul.van.santvoord1232 Also, if she were in Cell Phone range, they could call her for remote assistance. (There were times that I was PO'd at my Company / boss, but would never NOT help a co-worker.)
I had an employee come one day and say she wanted to resign. I said well I can't stop you but do you mind telling me why? She said she was pregnant (she didn't show). I told her you don't need to quit for that, you're entitled to 4 months maternity leave at full pay. She didn't know about it! Anyway tragically her baby died when he was a couple of days old and she went into a depression. We gave her the time she needed, even kept paying her for the first six months and it was over a year later that I called her husband to ask how she was. After talking to him I called her and said I thought she needed to come back to work. She could start slow, do a couple of days a week but I believed she needed to get back on her feet. Obviously we'd reorganized her work by then and didn't really need her but we would make space. So in the end, 15 months after leaving she came back and became one of our most loyal and hardworking teammates. Happily she and her husband have three beautiful kids now and she finally resigned a couple of years ago because she was chosing to be a full time mom. But she didn't leave us in the lurch, she got her sister to interview for the job and she trained her better than we ever could have! That's what you get when you treat people right.
Your actions are unfortunately rare nowadays. Lots of employers expect employees to work extra hard and devote lots of time to their jobs but rarely go to bat for those workers. Its sad that she wanted to quit due to pregnancy but I’ve seen lots of ppl do that or the employer will find out and let them go because they consider it a distraction or that when the baby is due you’ll take extra time off. We all have to do more to stick up for our people when they need us often times that will pay off on its own quickly. Ppl think everyone is just out for themselves but lots of ppl will do more than their share for a job that takes care of them. Hell lots of ppl do more than their share for jobs that clearly don’t care about them. Thanks for being a good one.
How very sad, yet what an incredible thing to do for her. This is truly the bitter and the sweet. Thank you from all of us who hope there are several million more just like you.
Yeah, I want to know if she was actually paid for 16 hours a week or if she was paid for the extra time she typically spent. If she wasn't paid more than 16 hours a week I don't think anyone should apply for her job.
She was getting time robbed by them. The time restrictions is just to pay less, not because the job can be done in that time. The pay is also really low for those level of skills. Screw that town.
While working as a bank teller, I asked the manager if I could leave ONE hour early on Friday, it was Tuesday when I requested it. I explained that I needed laser eye surgery to repair retina damage, and presented a doctor's note. This was the only appointment I could get as the surgeon was super booked. I had NEVER requested time off before. My manager said "no" because Fridays were our busiest time, and told me that "I needed to find another doctor." So, I quit on the spot, had my operation on Friday, and Monday morning HR called, apologized, and begged for me to return.
@@bbb462cid Asked me? Not quite. They hinted that if I did return I'd "more than likely" receive a promotion, and if I chose not to return they would "happily" provide me with a generous severance package (cough, cough, hush money). A lawyer advised me not to sue as I wasn't physically harmed. And the most I could get was a small settlement which would be about the same as the severance package, and not take years to resolve. So...I walked with a year's salary in my pocket. And for the record, this bank no longer exists. Many of the people who worked there were fired, quit or took early retirement.
@@bbb462cid Exactly. Sadly, in the "Right to Work" state where I currently live many employers abuse workers and violate their rights. The people born here (and I was not) are taught at an early age to just do what you are told and don't speak up. Sad.
I asked my employer for a week off without pay ($2 an hour) so I could travel from Colorado to California to marry my fiancé . He said no, so I told him I am quitting. We got married, I got another job, and my wife and I are still together after 50 years. I never missed that job for a moment.
a friend of mine worked retail sales for CompUSA back in the 90's. he got his vacation approved months in advance for his wedding and honeymoon (a grand total of 4 days), the week of his wedding comes and he is on the schedule... he quit, got married, found a new MUCH better paying job in tech support less than a month later. today 20 plus years later he is a happily married father of two with an amazing wife. Meanwhile, today, CompUSA still wonders why they went out of business and TigerDirect, the online store they closed all their physical stores down for to save money folded as well not too long after..
When I got married we purposely postponed our honeymoon because our wedding was in a period of high retail traffic. We decided to hold it off until late January and early February to not conflict with any holidays. My vacation request was denied quoting it was too soon after Christmas and new years. I told the manager I’ll just go above their head. Thankfully the store manager was more understanding after I explained the entire situation to him.
This happened around 20 years ago. My wife was getting the runaround from work for vacation time. She got passed around from one manager to another. She got pissed and went on the computer and put out her resume to several different jobs. She got hired immediately and asked her new company for a later start date. They ok’d it and she went back to her job and handed in her resignation. Her boss called her into his office for an exit interview and was saying that he was having a rough week because he heard someone was quitting because they wouldn’t give her a holiday. She said, “Yeah, that’s me”. He was clueless. We had two glorious weeks in the Caribbean.
Important rules to know: 1) HR is not your friend. 2) the company is not your "family". 3) you have earned your time off and have a right to take it when you like. 4) It is not up to you to find someone to cover your shift while you're gone--that's what management is for.
I was a Medical Laboratory Tech at a major Army Medical Center and had less than a year left on my enlistment. During the previous years at that Hospital (From 2001-2005) I had earned several 4 day passes for stellar work in the lab and was always denied the right to take the 4 day pass because they were "short staffed." I had also had three or four separate one week vacations turned down for the same reason. I was always annoyed by this, but I was in the ARMY and a lot of our military personnel were now over in the desert so I agreed that we might be short staffed. At the 6-month mark for the end of my enlistment I had to have my "Terminal leave" forms submitted. This is the ARMY basically letting you take any leave time you had accumulated off against your last day of enlistment. Now I had somewhere around 65 days accumulated because I had not been allowed to take any vacation for over 2 years on top of the 30 days I was saving for a small break before going to work as a civilian. On the day before I was set to start my terminal leave, with all of my paper work filled out signed, gear turned back into the army and what not, I was informed that my terminal leave was denied and I would not be allowed to take any time off. I was pissed. The sergeant in charge of my section of the lab had held on to my leave paperwork for months, way past when it was supposed to be forwarded to troop command, so that it could be rejected for turning it in too late even though everyone involved in my chain of command knew I had turned it in as they had all witnessed me doing so. I was furious at this sergeant and had definitely let him know how I felt about it with a wonderful and vociferous use of colorful language. For which he wrote me up for an Article 15 for disrespecting an NCO. What that jerk didn't know is that although I was getting out of the ARMY, since I had a college degree, my lab certification and now 6 years of experience, I had all ready accepted a job back at the same hospital in charge of that section of the lab that this moron had delayed my from starting because I was supposed to start during my terminal leave. I was now his civilian boss. ARMY medical centers are a convoluted mess of bureaucracy, with mixed up chains of command and supervision. But I was getting out as a specialist that used the ARMY to pay off college loans and came back now in charge of the staff sergeant that screwed me over. Needless to say, we were always "Short staffed" for any vacation or 4 day pass that sergeant submitted for the next few years until he moved to a different post, even denying him his honey moon. Yes, I was that petty. He deserved it and I still feel no guilt about it
Thank you for sticking to him later on . You think it's bad in a lab unit you ought to be in a combat unit and watch these people run around like a chicken with it's head chopped off scared shit less !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.................
I had spent nearly $4500 on a vacation package that was going to be my family and two other families. All 6 adults had made arrangements for their time off, set up people to take care of each house while on vacation, gone and gotten all the shots, gotten passports, and everything else that was need to go to mexico for 3 weeks. All of which was a dream vacation we had talked about and saved for over a ten year period. We put time off requests in nearly a year ahead of time and got it approved. 3 days before we were set to board the plane for our dream vacation, my employer comes to me and tells me that i cant take my time off because my manager decided the week before that he needed that time off instead, and i would have to postpone my time off. Miraculously, they found a way to cover me when i told them i wouldnt be there for those 3 weeks and it was up to them if i still worked there or not when i got back. While on vacation, i spoke with my family and friends about the situation and decided it wasnt worth the hassle and that i would open my own shop. When i got back, i worked there for 1 month and put in my notice. Been working for myself ever since and dont regret a second of it.
So the manager knew you were on vacation, and planned his own without "managing" an replacement. Bah. I'm somewhat to lazy to open my own business, but that's one of the reasons I like to work for smaller companies that don't have a "management" to get in the way of things and only siphon money for themselves out. In the ~22 years in my current company the one situation that came "closest" to your example was one time where my replacement got in an accident a few days before my vacation. But even then the owner didn't come with a "you have to...." request, he came with a "Hey, listen, there is an emergency, how do you think we can handle it?" request. And we managed to get by with a daily phone call (on the clock) at a fixed time for possible open urgent questions.
The Mayor/council failed to make clear to the townspeople why they needed to fund pay increases and therefore the townspeople voted no on the increased funding.
They probably can't admit in writing that she is working more than 16 hours a week, because that would be wage theft. That makes it hard to go to the voters and ask for higher taxes "so we can stop breaking the law and pay for the work we need done."
Mom was town clerk in a small town for many years. She did everything. Since she handled birth certificates, marriage licenses, and death certificates, she called herself the "Hatched, Matched and Dispatched department."
This sounds like the beginning of a Stephen King story: A small town in Maine that doesn't realize how over burdened their underpaid town clerk was... or what her job really entailed. Little do they know that this small town clerk is in charge of handling records, registering vehicles, and keeping the gates to hell closed.. and they just denied her vacation request.
Frustrated and underappreciated, her anger grows daily. It is almost the 1st of July, the time of blood sacrifice. If she doesn't place her blood in the crucible at the stroke of midnight like generations of gatekeepers like her have done for the last 470 years then time will fail and ancient evils will arise to walk among men! She watches the children play marbles in the bright sunshine as she climbs into her car and simply drives out of town, taking nothing with her except a little rune stone, blackened with centuries of blood stains and grime, the markings on it barely visible, which she drops at the border of the town. She never looks back.
The reason they're having so much trouble finding a "qualified employee willing to work part time" is because any qualified employee can do better than 13k a year, plus we all know that they dont really mean part time. They mean full time without the benefits but they're going to call it part time so they dont have to give you those benefits.
The pay is only authorized for 16 hours each week. Except it isn't a job that can be completed in 16 hours each week. They are effectively looking to hire a senior citizen busy body that just want something to do, but don't care about things like wages or work-life balance.
I realize the problem when he mentioned that they didn't explain why they gave their position a raising income while not having any budget for a position that is required by Maine law
they should take a page out of UPS' playbook: instead of hiring 1 person at 40 hours per week + benefits, hire 2 people each at 20 hours a week with no benefits. win-lose!
I've worked several jobs like that while looking for better offers. Every single employer acted like I killed their puppy when I gave notice. One even threatened to withhold my last check to cover the cost of recruiting my replacement.
This lady was the town clerk, building inspector, animal control officer, and tax collector. Four jobs in one and they only paid her $13,500 a year. Most of those jobs alone start at about 30 or 40 grand a year depending on where you live. Good for her for quitting. Take your resume to a real city and make 4 or 5 times the money.
Now imagine 600 people putting together several 30 grand salaries out of their pockets. It is a small town, it is not like people are born and dying in hundreds every day
@@dmitripogosian5084 That's $50 annually for each employee, so it's not exactly a huge burden, although salaries aren't the only expense associated wtih employees. If the town is unable to provide the services necessary to maintain itself, they probably should be looking at cancelling their municipal charter and becoming an unincorporated area of the county.
Steve! I got a correction for you! It's not called "going above and beyond" on the part of the employee, it's called "wage theft" on the part of the employer.
In some cases "volunteered hours" for a public job can be an illegal act. For example, if a person is employed by the Federal Government, no employee is permitted to "volunteer " their time. Violates the Appropiation Act .
@@ronblack7870 oh no some employee didn't do busy work so that entitled you to rip them off their ot/pto what have you for the next 6 years. Yup exactly equal
I like how they aren't blaming her for the shutdown. I applaud that they recognize that it was the years of neglect that had put them in the position they are in.
They recognised the neglect and i appreciate that they didnt attack the woman, but it shows the inconvenience of the officials when they blame neglect because it's their job to upkeep these things and so they're responsible for the neglect
I worked for a rather large company in the 90's. I put in for a leave of absence as my newborn son was having heart problems and I needed to stay with him 24-7. The human resources lady gave me a form to fill out. I filled out the form stating his health conditions and that I did not know exactly when I could return. One hour after I turned it in she told me, "Your request has been denied." I responded, "Oh, you misunderstood me, I am not asking your permission to take time off. I am just hoping to have a job when I get back." The look on her face was amazing. Two days later I was in the hospital with my son getting some tests done and told the plant manager what happened. He told me not to worry. After 13 weeks he called to see how everything was going and told me I could come back when ever I thought my son was going to be alright. On week fifteen, I called him and said, "If you'll have me back, my son is doing much better and is stable." He said yes. Two months after that, the HR lady was fired because she didn't tell me about the family medical leave act. I worked for that company for twelve years, proudly.
@@scarling9367 i did 21 years in the USN. after i retired, it was exhilarating to at last be able to tell a self-righteous slave driver to go F himself without repercussions. i told every interviewer the job looked as if it was fun, but the day i'm not having fun, i leave. after quitting every job i've ever had since, i never encountered what some folks here have put up with. it just ain't on my bucket list.
My son had a heart condition and I knew about the family leave act and my employer tried to set limits. I told them what you want doesn't align with what I can do. They had done that with others before me with great success. I was labeled for being difficult but my reply was, I did what was within my rights and right for my family
Like I said to my last job before I quit: PTO stands for Prepare The Others. I’m not “requesting,” I’m “notifying” you that I’m not gonna be there. If I am so important that the job falls apart without me here, maybe that needs to be reflected in my paycheck because I’m not hearing “irreplaceable” out my paycheck
I was on vacation day 2/14 in Paris when I got a phone call letting me know my beloved mother had passed away in Nova Scotia. I lived and worked in California. After all the flights and the funeral I went back to work. My boss called me into her office, handed me a check and told me to go back and finish my vacation. It was amazing. I didn't even think she liked me very much.
My story::: I was once called and asked to work on my day off, I was not feeling well so I said no (normally I would go in for the extra money) my boss then tells me if I don’t show up I would be fired, I said ok I guess I’m fired because I’m not going into work today it’s my day off and I’m sick. Two days later on my normal day to work I didn’t go in as I was told I was fired. About 30 minutes into what would have been my shift my boss calls me asking where was I. I said I’m at home, you fired me two days ago. She did she didn’t mean it so please come in and work I don’t have anyone to cover your shift. I told her you should have thought of that before you fired me.
I took a job once that required me to work the weekend once a month. 6 months in, I was being scheduled for every weekend with only about 1-2 days notice. When I complained the boss just said "sorry, that's just the way it is". I found another job on a Wednesday starting the next Monday, on that Friday the boss comes in and says your going to have to work this weekend I said no and handed him by badge. He said you can't just quit without notice, so I told him "sorry, that's just the way it is". On a side note, he was later fired and investigated for embezzlement and theft along with a couple of the guys that never had to work the weekend.
My husband quit work because they rescinded his time off to get married (45 years ago). They suggested he change the wedding to a Thursday instead, as that was his regular day off. Most satisfying, they called him afterwards and begged him to come back, as they didn't realize he was the only one in the shop who knew how a certain device worked. We were poor, so he did go back for a few weeks until he found a better job. The new job actually hired him based on the story of being fired for getting married.
The same exact thing happened to me in 2020. Said I could have off for the wedding, and I would have to be back the next day. Told my manager I would be going on my honeymoon and was told I would be fired if I did. This was the same manager who I told a year before when i was hired I needed the time off. Told them to save them the headache and paperwork that it would be my last day.
Saw this a couple days ago and immediately thought "Good for her". Sounds like the town didn't realize what a sweet deal it had paying one person $13.5k a year to handle all of those duties. To the person lamenting how hard it is to find qualified people willing to work part time, sounds like you had an excellent one but couldn't keep her because you thought she had no options. The town's "leaders" deserve everything that's happening, or not happening I guess.
If the city cannot afford their employees they should dissolve and let the county handle it or joint employment agreements with other cities to combine financies.
She was making only $16.23/hr, which is VERY low for someone with those responsibilities, and even less counting the time she was donating just to keep up.
I worked for the county at our local Senior Citizens center. I needed to have gallbladder surgery and they refused to give me time off! The director said “Can’t you just have it done Friday after work? That way you can be ready to work on Monday”…….😒 Needless to say, I quit.
Yeah, I've gone through that Friday 💩 myself. Including deaths in the family. Funny thing, the first time I did it myself. Had my thumb cut off on a Friday. Reattached over the weekend. And back to work on Monday doing the exact same job building aircraft engine struts. It was nice being young ☺️ ... thumb still works too 👍 Now I think about it. I did quit that company after the 2nd time 🤔
@@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm3291 Yeah but it happens. The girl in this 'piece' was doing multiple SEPARATE jobs and wasn't being properly paid for it. I think this happened to them because they probably saddled HER with all the extra jobs instead of hiring another couple of part-timers or just spreading the pain to everyone they did have on staff.
@@virginiamoss7045 No, the other one 😂 No. The second time the company "SUGGESTED" I could wait till Friday, then take the weekend to do my stuff. My brother had just been killed in the Marines, and they wanted me to wait a couple days. Like I was going to make everyone's plan revolve around a damn company. I liked the company and job. But, f em. Family means more. ... you can probably guess the company, since they've gone down hill since I left 😂 f m
My mom was the front office manager at a clinic. Her official hours were between 36 & 40 hours a week. She frequently worked more like 60. She frequently did the job of 3 people. She filled in when anyone called off or didn't show up, rearranged the schedule to accommodate all the employees, helped in the billing office, dealt with complaints from the patients and from the doctors, tracked down lost charts, answered the phones, scheduled appointments and contracted people for lab work, janitorial, trash pickup, medical waste disposal, etc. Eventually she told the doctors she wanted to step down as office manager and go back to her job as a receptionist. They said no. She put up with it for a few more weeks, then she quit. The clinic shut down not long after that.
She added on a newsweek article: Christen Bouchard :"This was not solely a decision based on vacation. There were so many factors to this decision and ultimately I didn’t want to get done. I asked for three and a half days off, over a two week period, two months early. It is my own fault as when I interviewed for the position it came with two weeks of paid vacation. I was also never given any agent fees for anything done while in the office. A whole separate issue that has never been addressed is that my Treasurer received $10,500 in raises during the 20 months I was holding the office, while everyone else remained the same. She makes the same amount I made before leaving to spend maybe 20 hours in the office per month. My monthly hours totaled more than 68, considering the office could only be open and function while I was there, and no other town employee had or currently has office hours. I appreciate your opinion though! Oh and our selectman was busted for drugs and his house was raided. He said it was only ‘personal use’ so there is always that too" Christen Bouchard
I worked for a lawyer decades ago. Asked for the Friday after thanksgiving. He asked me a bunch of personal questions. I responded “It was a yes or no question. I don’t need to tell you all that.” He got angry and threw a chair at me. His partner who was there when it happened said she “didn’t see anything.” I quit. When my next employer called him about hiring me, he lied about a lot of things. He didn’t know I was sitting right there on the phone call. I worked for the next lawyer for 25 years. 😊
Id have thrown it back. Then left. What they gonna do sue you? They take you to court look at the judge and tell him I learned 2 things working for lawyers they watch each others back and lie.
@@bobbg9041 I had a lawyer threaten to sue me when I told him off for running over my mailbox when I lived just outside the city for a month. I looked him dead in the eyes and told him "Try it, I know where your skeletons are buried." Suddenly he was offering to pay to have a new one put up. Had a concrete mailbox put up and not even a week later he hit THAT one and totaled his car. Lost his driver's license and his license to practice due to the DUI that couldn't be swept under the rug this time. That prick had used connections to get out of DUI's so often it was insane.
I worked for a major (German based) company as a repair engineer. I was responsible for my product line as well as another engineer's product line when he got let go. I did this for about a year and when my annual evaluation came up, I asked for a little more pay for the extra duties I took on. I was working about 60 hours a week keeping 2 departments going. My boss said it was out of his hands. A month later I got a better job with a 25% increase and gave my 2 weeks notice. It took 3 engineers to absorb all the work I was doing. Sometimes you just gotta call their bluff and move on.
That's how it is. Once they have you, then they don't see a reason to do things to keep you. Most of the time, the only way up is to find a different job.
I've found out a few times that after I moved on that they had to hire 3 people to do my job. Once I deliberately took on the work of two other people in a bid to get a raise/promotion, only to get the short end of the stick. So I just dropped the extra work and they were forced to hire more people, which cost at least double what I wanted for a pay increase.
@@mikelarry2602 That, and/or clueless. Also, my boss at the time was sort of a prick; he was one of those guys that obviously played favorites, but was in total denial that he did so.
I went through that a couple of times. Worked for a company that "gave" you 4 weeks vacation, except they'd never let you take it because there was always some "emergency" at the last minute. If you didn't take it by Feb 1 off the next year you lost it. I got permission for 2 weeks off over Christmas months in advance. Included reminders in my weekly status report. Asked who was backing me up 2 months out... no answer. Day before I was going on vacation, my manager informed me I may not be able to go on vacation. I laughed and told him not to get between me and the door at 4 p.m.He threatened me with my job. I pointed out he had 5 openings for my job title and if he pissed me off, it would be 6. I went on vacation. I came back and still had a job. The manager was pissed off but oh well.
Bingo. I do the job to support my life, not the other way around. I’ll work my butt off to earn that paycheck, but when they start expecting free labor, I’m out.
Now retired, but last 5 years on my job that saying hung on the wall behind me. I pointed to it at least once a week when asked to do something because a 'higher up' did something wrong/stupid/unnecessary or completely forgotten.
@@Jason-cm6uhI always understood the rationale but still hated the smugness, since most people will still try to chip in when there's a legit work emergency, regardless of the reason. Also the saying only applies to work peers, not one's bosses, unless you want to get fired.
I had a situation where i put in for time off and was denied. I wanted to attend the Sturgis motorcycle rally. I made it clear without ultimatum i was going. I requested the time well in advance. Months in advance. About a week before the rally, they changed their mind and approved my time off. They said "good news you are going to Sturgis now". My reply "i was always going to Sturgis, but it is nice to know i will have a job when i get back."
I'm taking my son's to a WWE event event next month. They love pro wrestling. I have not told them yet but I would not miss the looks on their faces for anything
A friend of mine was going on holiday to Scotland . We live in England. His boss said he had to leave his company vehicle for the replacement engineer to use . It was pointed out to the manager that the vehicle was for use on holiday and my friend paid income taxes on car . The manager said if you go on holiday and take the car he would sack him. So he went on holiday took the car, 2 weeks later he came back, the manager got him in the office told him he was fired and ask for the car keys . He gave him the keys and left the next day the manager rang him and asked where the car was he couldn't find it in the car park. He told him He'd left it inverness train station and come home on the train. 600 mile round trip to pick it up
I was turned down for even statutory long weekends, vacations, sick days, etc, not being allowed time off for anything at all (funerals included). When I asked why I couldn't have so much as a day off, I was told I was the only one who would come in on time to open the business in the morning. When I talked to the rest of the staff to see if any of the others would be willing to come in on time once in awhile so I could have some time off (it had been 7 years by then), they all said they weren't willing to leave their homes any earlier in the morning. So yep, I walked off the job too. You can't walk on people forever
My dad had scheduled a weekend off for a religious event with our family. It was approved, but right before we were to leave his manager at his dealership said he couldn’t have it off. If he did they’d fire him. So he left his meeting with his boss and started packing his office. His manager found out, and came in yelling at him. My dad said you threatened to fire me when I had approved time off, and if I have to disappoint you or my family, it’s not you I’m going with. The owner found out what my dad’s management did, and called my dad that weekend. They said whenever you get back(not just the four days scheduled) you’ll have your job, and offered him a raise. So he got his vacation, and a raise out of it!
That's because denying him a vacation AND threatening to fire him for taking a legally required vacation is grounds for a lawsuit. The owner was trying to sweep a bad situation under the rug.
I'm surprised a religious person would react so abruptly. The bible, for instance, encourages the fruits of the spirit. A more peaceful person would have tactfully brought the owner into the discussion in the first place, instead of creating a situation where the owner feels legally threatened.
Totally different story About ten years ago I was working a government contract which sent me all over the US and wife was a bartender in a local bar. I learned I was going to be going to Hawaii for 6 weeks, my company was paying for my condo and rental car plus I would be getting about $140 a day per diem. I asked my wife to with me but s he said no, needless to say I was confused and pissed that my wife didn’t want go. One day we were arguing about it over the phone (I was still on the road in North Dakota) her boss (the owner of the bar) heard that we were arguing but what it was about and asked her if everything was ok? She explained the problem and he said “well why don’t you go?) she went off and told him “because I have a job DUHH. I can’t just say, oh by the way I’m going to be gone for the next two months! “. He asked her when I was going and she told him “next Monday”. Then he looked at her and ok “your fired!” “your last day is next Saturday”. She blew up a yelled “You f#%&ing firing me?” He laughed and said “yep, if your dumb enough to turn down a full expense paid trip to Hawaii then I don’t need you here!” ‘Don’t worry your job will be here when you get back.” She went, we had a blast AND he gave a $500 bonus to spend while she was there.
@@magicalmonoceros2407 sadly that was what I was thinking at the time, I just couldn’t imagine anybody being that dedicated to a bartending job. Forunatly once her boss told her to go her whole attitude changed.
Bad bosses have impact on the company. This is just an example of how not treating your employees like humans has consequences. Sorry, not sorry that the selectman has to pony up. And I grew up in a small town so I am well aware of how politics work and how hard the clerks and staff work to keep the town running.
Of course, the Bosses always take their vacation - we used to love when certain bosses were gone and hated when our vacations coincided with theirs. It seemed like a waste...
a carload of (very) drunk people leaving the city XMas party kissed semi headon, taking the mayor, super, couple of office worker bees, and one of the only two electric generator plant operators. i checked about 20 years ago, and guess the town never completely recovered. pop in 1965 was 2400, in 2000 it was around 1400 iirc. block after block of nothing but collapsed abandoned houses. very, very few people over age 18 and under 60. it was a ghost town, and just hadn't realized it yet. lord knows, i left first chance i got.
My daughter did pretty much the same thing. 6 months notice of her upcoming wedding. She had notified them of dates needed off. 9 days- Day before the wedding and honeymoon. They put her on the schedule anyway for the day before the wedding. When she told her manager she was supposed to be off he said oops sorry about that but your on the schedule, you need to come in. After reminding him she had put in for the time 6 months prior and had reminded him periodically but he still wouldn't budge. Told her she didn't need the day before the wedding off. So finally she told him she wouldn't be in that day. Or any day after for that matter.
It's a great feeling. My boss told me, the day before my vacation was due to start, that I could not go unless I found stand ins for my duties! I said "OK, I quit" the reply was "You can't do that!" "Sorry, but I have." It felt great!
I love reading all of these stories. In 2015 when I had stage 4 cancer with a 25% chance of living another 5 years, I realized how very low on the totem pole a job is. I realized that my job would never again be ‘priority’ to me. It was quite a revelation. I’m happy these people didn’t have to get cancer to realize it.
I quit one job because time off was denied, and wasn't given a reason other than "we need you here." I waited until two weeks before my desired vacation time, and put in my 2 weeks notice, which was accepted. A few days before my two weeks was up, I was told by my superior's superior that my vacation time was now approved if I wanted to stay. I lied and said I already had another job lined up. Some conversation was had about him wishing I would change my mind, and I cordially declined with something like, "Appreciate the offer, but I shouldn't have to threaten to quit a job in order to use vacation time." A couple of weeks later I received a call from my former superior's superior. He offered my job back with a pay increase. He also mentioned my former superior had been let go a day or two prior. When I quit, I let several people know why I was quitting. A few of them apparently went to the superior's superior and let him know that it wasn't just me being denied vacation and sick time. I don't know if there were any more factors in that guy getting fired, but there most likely were. I'm just kind of glad my stubbornness was probably the final straw to end his employment. He was a bit of a prick.
Thank you for telling other people there. I have found that to be an excellent tactic in compelling necessary workplace change--- no little "secrets" management can keep protecting. You force their hand
@@justicedemocrat9357 You must be young and innocent. Your ability to do the job, depending on the company, is not necessarily the top consideration when determining whether or not "we need you here". Politics, jealousy, pettiness, plain incompetence, etc take precedence.
This was how and why I quit my last full time job. I had put in the request 8 MONTHS IN ADVANCE for the days I would need to take a prepaid, nonrefundable full charter rock 'n' roll cruise. I had the time (and more) in my PTO bank so that wasn't an issue Meanwhile, we were taken over by another company that (and I don't say this often) was truly evil in its practices. The first thing they did was cut our already-inadequate pay. One month before the cruise was to sail, my supervisor had only okayed one of the days I requested. I said, "I AM going on that cruise." The last straw was when I was ordered to log on at 7 AM ON MY DAY OFF for software training. I said, no way in you-know-where, my time is MINE. They harumphed and said you won't be allowed to work. My letter of resignation went into the email minutes later. And the cruise was fabulous, of course.
We knew a full year in advance when our eldest daughter’s wedding would be, so my husband put in his request for leave. He had plenty of time on the books and it wouldn’t involve any major holidays. As each month went by, he asked about approval for his leave. When it was down to a couple of months, he was told (by the boss) that he would have to call out sick!! He turned in his early retirement forms.
My story isn't as epic as all that, but I once worked part time for a tiny moving company. I only worked when there were jobs scheduled. I asked if there was anything scheduled for three particular dates and the boss said there were not. I told him that I would be going camping, and it might be best not to schedule anything those dates. Naturally, he scheduled a job for the date my trip was going to start, and waited until the day before to tell me about it. (Did I mention I was the only employee?) I reminded him of the prior conversation about camping, and said no. He was pretty upset and didn't schedule me for any other jobs. He had his grandkid help instead. That worked for awhile, until his grandkid got tired of his BS. Not sure who is helping now.
When I first left the military, I went to work in a state correctional center, as many did. Because I left on a medical discharge, I ended up in juvenile corrections. Turned out to be much worse than adult corrections. For years, they had forced staff to work double shifts if someone called out sick, during high security periods when increased staffing was felt appropriate, or for special events. Time and a half was only paid for more than sixty hours, and overtime could be taken as comp time, but only as straight exchange, not at the 1.5 hour rate you should have been earning. I hated the work environment from the first week, but had a wife and kids, and stayed 18 months until I moved to a much better job. One of our coworkers retired with nearly forty years service. She had documentation of every time the state had cheated her, and sued. She sued for the back pay they owed, and the suffering she and her children endured by not having the money.when they needed it so badly. The judge reviewed her handwritten diary, typed summary, copies of every time sheet and pay stub, and copies of the applicable policies from the state's own msnuals and SOPs. My coworker had kept copies of EVERYTHING. The judge found in her favor and ordered them to pay her backpay at time and a half at her salary at retirement. A senior corrections officer with forty years state service. She also ordered punative damages.
I like when people say everyone is replaceable, and that is quite the contrary. I asked for a raise at my old job as I felt I deserved it. I had taken on a number of duties that required specializations and I managed to fulfill all of those duties. Of course I was denied, so I opened my own business and left. That was 7 years ago and they are still looking for someone to fill my position. They have asked me to return multiple times and won't pay me what I want. They have have now had to split my job into 5 different positions. They're spending a little over 400k to fill these jobs when all I asked for was $5 more per hour 😅 (btw, no they havent been able to fill these positions)
It just goes to show, and I've seen it over and over again, that the more you take on at work, the more they expect you to do, and the less they respect you.
This! I have seen slackers get the same compensation as people who went beyond the call of duty (usually extra hours without pay). I am not justifying inferior work practices, but It’s important to know your value and set boundaries.
My last job ( I was 61 at the time I left so it really was) I worked at a company part time for about 5 years. I started out doing a great job but as time went on and I never got raises I just did less and less work. In the end all I did was the bank deposit which took about an hour when I was paid for 6. They laid me off so I collected unemployment until Social Security kicked in.
@@GMAMEC I am proud to say I was one of the slackers. I always did a good job but NEVER worked one minute that they weren't paying for. Better than being someone the company takes advantage of. They will if you let them.
@@GMAMEC Honestly, being a good talker is more important than being good at your actual job. That's how you get promotions, raises, etc. Those who work hard are usually treated the worst, and those who talk hard are usually treated the best.
Been there, done that! 20 years shop foreman without a real vacation. 2 months later bought all the equipment from former employer at bankruptcy auction, sold some pieces and made a profit from it. Hired back the other employees with better pay and benefits. Now retired after 20 more years after giving it to them and there still going strong!
Employees should be given a chance to get loans to buy any buisiness that is about to get shipped overseas or is going bankrupt. Co-ops are one of the few ways we might be able to save this country. Good on you &keep spreading the gospel!
I once asked for a vacation day to be a pallbearer. My supervisor denied the vaca time and told me to code my time sheet for that day to office time. He said that being asked was important to the family of the deceased and I received full pay for the day.
I know this feeling, I just got out of the hospital last week and I was basically there because I was worked near-to-death for 2 years(no vacation and technically 7 days a week no time off). While I was gone the company was in chaos with my boss calling and messaging me every day asking when I could come back(while in the hospital).
@scott shabalam. I was admitted to hospital with an eye infection that wasn't responding to treatment. I had to have antibiotic gel applied every 15 mins day & night. My boss call all the time with questions about my job. On day 3 he showed up on the ward with my laptop, monitor and other equipment so I could work from my bed! The ward sister threw him out. Unfortunately for him we worked for the health authority this hospital was part of. The sister informed HR that my boss was interfering with my treatment. He was reprimanded and then requested transfer to another department. Thing is we had been asking for time to cross train each other in the office in case something like this happened and he always refused. Said it we wanted we could do it during lunch or after work.
The last salaried job I had ( in the 80's) ended when I went on an approved vacation for a week. And the place (a photo lab) fell into chaos because the owners couldn't operate the place. I received a call WHILE I WAS STILL ON VACATION that I was fired. The unemployment office couldn't believe the audacity of the employer and I received unemployment for several months until I established my own photo studio.
My brother had something similar happen to him. It all started one day when he was driving to work when he suddenly stopped breathing and was taking to the hospital. They got him breathing again but didn't find the cause. He was released and was fine for a few months when it happened again. Back to the hospital but they didn't find the cause. This kept going on for more than a year. The company finally phoned him and told him he was fired for faking an illness to get out of work. Here's the kicker -> the phone they called him was the one in the hospital room where he was staying after another incident of not breathing (there were other symptoms too, I just don't remember what they were). Now a note to all diabetics that have never heard or experiencing this happening.... my brothers was diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic at the age of 3. He had been taking an insulin shot every day since then. After 30+ years of taking the shots, this started happening to him. The doctors finally found this out and did something (this happened over 4 years ago) to make it stop happening. If you're having this problem, see a specialist immediately. Apparently it is curable but left untreated it could kill you.
This sounds like a job I had at a hospital several years ago. They kept piling more work on me with absolutely no consideration for the burden it caused. So, I left that job and took another with more money and less workload. Six months later my old supervisor called me. She informed me that they had hired 2.5 people to replace me, but they still couldn't get adequate results. She begged me to come back. I declined. Why do employers not realize when they have a really good worker until it's too late? P. S.: You would not believe how many times in my career a former employer said to me, "Wow, I just didn't realize how valuable you were until you were gone."
Because when this happens they look great to their boss, and get raises and promotions. They won't admit that you are the reason that your team is doing so well. Otherwise they would have to give the raises and promotions to you. Inevitably you leave and things go to shit. It is the way of the business world, unless the CEO comes to see what is really going on with workers.
Early in my career as a Paramedic, we worked 12 hour shifts 3 and 4 day shifts on alternating weeks but we were always hounded to work overtime shifts. Being single and as we were the least paid Paramedics in the county I worked a lot of overtime. When summer came I asked for a couple of days off and was denied by my manager. I asked why, since I always tried to help out the company and worked when asked and was told because I helped the company didn’t obligate the company to help me. It took me a week to find a job in the next county over with better shifts, better pay and better working conditions. When I gave my two week notice. The owner asked why I was leaving, I told him and he offered me a blank check on pay and shifts. I told him he was a month late. If they had treated us better to start with I wouldn’t have been so annoyed at not getting my time off.
I agree with your philosophy. Everyone needs a decent break from work for so many reasons. I don't get why employers think their employees are machines to be worked to death. Even machines need service or they break down. A break from work is as important as a service on a machine.
My dad ran a mine and had to deal with code enforcement officers. The problem as he explained is that if they constantly find no violations it looks like they’re not doing their jobs. So they dig and dig and dig and nitpick you to death. He found the solution by rotating minor infractions for them to “find” so they stay out of your hair.
same over here in Europe -our IRS is way more civilised than yours, but when you have an audit, they got to bring home some bacon : " where are those tiles, Sir ?" "We found they did not fit in the office bathroom, used them at home, then" (real example)
Hot take... Something I learned way back in the 70's as a long haul driver, if you don't treat your dedicated & loyal employees with loyalty and respect in return then sooner or later you can expect them to quit being loyal to you!
This has become a real problem companies think because they pay you. That you are theirs to do with as they please. I have quit a couple jobs for over stepping boundaries.
I always wonder why so many companies either don't realize who is keeping the business going or how to keep those most valuable to the company for different reasons. Seems to happen everywhere. Glad I am living in a country where at least many things seen in the US as "perks" for working for a certain company, simply are legal rights every employee has. Like a minimum of 24 days of paid vacation. Besides paid sick leave etc.
@@alexanderkupke920 It's pencil pushers! Office people always put on airs and look down their noses at the workers and have the upstairs convinced that pencil pushers are worth more than the people who actually do the work or make the product that feeds them all! I've seen that my entire life and I've been on every level from LITERAL shit shoveler to Owner of my own business. I always remembered where I cam from and always had a little despise for the office people, seldom are they actually decent for long!
I had a few reasons to quit my freelance job as a customer support agent. 1. I was tired of being told what to do, when they didn't know how they wanted me to do it and kept changing the procedures. It was maddening. No matter what I did, I just could not please them. 2. I was treated like a drone, not a human being who could actually think and had opinions on how my work flowed the best. 3. I still don't understand why you would waste your time translating things, when they're not being published, because they're not proofread. And we were not allowed to proofread ANYTHING before everything else is translated unless we were specifically told to. I proofread shit because I actually needed that shit to do my main job and they got angry with me for that, like wtf? We had huge pieces of text that could take up to 45 minutes to properly translate and more than a thousand smaller texts in spreadsheets. The long ones felt longer when you're trying to work out how the bloody jokes and punchlines are going to work in a different language, or you're stuck with technical terms that makes the text clunky because you literally can't translate them properly and it really screws with the grammar. And sometimes I could almost feel them silently judging me for trying to be thorough. 4. I was told to do as I was told or "I could go somewhere else." Fine. I left a week and a half later. The big boss ended up sweating a bit and pleaded with me to stay until they'd trained my successor and I was like: My contract said I had to stay for 1 week after I'd given my official notice. I did not want to stay a day longer than I had to. My "successor" was their problem to deal with, not mine. I don't know if they ever found one but that is not my problem either. I don't care.
@@oldogre5999 I wouldn´t say all office people are like that, but from administrative secretarys and clerks to engineers, sadly to a very large part you are right. I think some Japanese companies like Toyota actually require all their management and engineering staff to work one or two weeks a year in the factory to keep their bearings. Also, for them it is more natural to select a CEO from staff with technical background (like engineers) than someone with an administration and accounting background as usual here. I am en engineer myself, but due to the training I had, some internships required for my studies and the job I do today (whole range from doing hardware, installing software, support, maintenance and the engineering stuff), I am well aware of what others and also fellow engineers forget. It may require a few engineers to develop a product (lets take a car as an example), but it takes a whole load of skilled workers to built the thing, ship it, distributie it, maintain it. They don´t get skilled in a week, and to keep them you have to treat them right. And if you go down to less skilled levels, no office or factory would run for long if no one takes care of cleaning and other stuff as well. It is not only about your employes, but any kind of worker. Here in Germany they go as far to keep skilled workers, that they have means to reduce working times (as they had to during the pandemic) and get subsidiies to pay them and keep them, as the state also sees it more effective to pay them to a limited amount over a limited time, as having a lot of people loosing their jobs, which would cause a state insurance to pay them anyways, and the businesses struggle afterwards to find qualified workers again. (Which is a good way to not having to fire a lot of people due to external circumstances for example, which isn´t that easy here anyways, but of course doesn´t tell anything how employees are treated under normal circumstances anyways, although it seems we have a lot different legal limits on what an employer can or cannot do) How many people, what I have seen in Florida a few times for example, treat those landscaping guys or any kind of lower skill worker, often indeed immigrants, who do hard work 60 hours a week to barely stay afloat, like dirt, because they don´t do a highly qualified job, because they are immigrants, because they don´t make a lot of money. But hear the same people cry if those guys would tell them to go somewhere and clean up they yards etc. themselves. Hard work those same people are not even willing to do. I think this behavior and attitude, be it as an employer or be it towards others has two or three main reasons, Ignorance, egoism, and the need to feel a sense of superiority over others.
I had been separated for about 6 months, seeing my kids weekends...my kids knew my weekend was on my birthday and even though that was not my weekend, they wanted to see me so I requested that weekend off. My manager refused and did not care for my reasons..." Your job or your kids. " They were already expecting to come...this guy already denied me a promotion a month prior...this sent me over the edge. I worked up to the day before my kids would show up and I just didn't go. Turned in everything and didn't pick up. Made great memories with my family...got a job offer a week later. Best decision ever. Why do people think forcing a choice between work and family will work? It's never worked with me...there always other jobs.
Rather the same story for me friend. When I was told i could not go on vacation, I said to my Manager "You approved the vacation more than 3 months ago. I also notified the dispatcher to not schedule me for work on those days and he said basically the same thing." I copied the entire email chain, added the COO V.P of Operations and said if you force me to chose between my family and my job, I really think you already know my answer. Literally 5 minutes later the COO replied to the email and told me i WAS going on vacation and whatever work was scheduled MUST BE RE-SCHEDULED which is exactly what I told the scheduler and my manager at the time. They just didn't like ME telling them what they should of already done. That same manager came to work for the company I have been with for over 7 years now, and I routinely denied his requests plus added most of the most difficult jobs to him consistently. He quit and came back 3 times. When he quit the 4th time I told him to not bother coming back. We need rock solid people not back stabbing pricks like you.
One year after retiring from my job [transit operator], I went back as a part-time or 'casual' employee. Fulfilled all assignments, including more than the minimum required, for three more years. Requested six weeks' UNPAID leave for an extended family road trip, request denied. Reason given : "we have staff shortages"... Hellooo, now you've got one more. Could have had me as a fully trained, experienced, and reliable employee for 4-5 more years, now you get to spend thousands recruiting and training a replacement who may or may not wish to stay in a PT situation...
I worked for a modular home manufacturing plant. I submitted a vacation request 2 months in advance, without pay. It was denied. I told them i needed this vacation with my family. Denied . Time came, i left on vacation. They held a meeting and told everyone I had quit. True. While on vacation , I received two calls asking me to come back , for more money. Nope ! One of the best vacations i had ever had!
I would have had some choice words for them. Why are companies so stupid? I guess it's greed and corporate non-caring for its employees. The worse thing to be is an Exceptional employee -- then they will REALLY take advantage of you.
I worked for a sheriff’s department when Rita/Katrina hit New Orleans. I requested a leave of absence to go help, it was denied so I requested a month vacation. They denied that request as well so I quit. Spent fours months helping out and was glad I made the decision to quit.
That happened to me a long time ago. Our store changed managers and the new manager asked me to step up and work to cover while he came up to speed. Finally, after about a year with no vacation, I went to him to ask for a few days off to travel down state with my family for Christmas. He said no, he couldn't do without me for the Xmas season, so I quit. Told him I would come back to work when I returned if he wanted. The day I came back I dressed up for work and walked in to see him. He said I had taken an unauthorized vacation and I was terminated. I said fine and walked out the door and got a much better job by the end of the day.
Worked at convenience store. After my first year there and NEVER missing a day or being late (maybe once) I went to request off on the office computer. My boss was mad when I asked for help putting in the request. “I don’t know how to do it because I never need a day off!” After that response, my manager smiled and he assisted me.
As an employer, it is your duty to ensure smooth operation of your business even when employees are absent; this includes vacation, illness, maternity leave, etc. Every position in your company should have a secondary employee (even yourself, if need be) who is capable of covering the basics of said position in the absence of the primary employee; having a "liquid" workforce is essential. Refusing any employee their entitled vacation is a sheer sign of your incompetence as an owner/manager. I say the same thing about wages. If your business cannot afford to pay your employees a proper living wage, then you have a shitty business plan and you deserve to fail.
I am Australian and reside in Perth ( Western Australia ) when I was 24 I moved to the other side of the country ( Sydney ) for a job in a bowling center as a tech. I was there approx. 6 months when I was notified that my Grandfather was ill and it was touching and go, so I went to my boss ( Head Tech ) and explained the situation he said I should go home and see my GD in case it was the last time I would see him...He was awesome in every way and put my request for 2 weeks ( unpaid leave ) into management who then said NO. I was disappointed after another conversation with the Head Tech. and on his advice - I quit and returned home to Perth and have never been back to Sydney since ( I am now 51 yrs old ). Richard Branson has the best quote "Train your staff well enough that they can leave, but treat them well enough that they don't want to.."
If there are no other staff able to handle your duties while you are away, that is a failure of management period. Cross training is the responsibility of management. Having more staff than what is strictly required, in order to accommodate people taking time off (Getting sick, vacation, family emergencies, etc) is the duty of management. The employee did nothing wrong. Blame the incompetent management and "leadership."
I once served on a zoning board in a small town in Ohio. Our only building inspector, without whom we could not operate, was a twenty hour a week employee. Like the lady in your story, he often performed inspections on unpaid overtime. He approached the mayor one spring and asked for five days off to attend an out-of-town wedding. The mayor promptly turned him down... So he quit.
I have done this. I was interviewed by a private security company for a patrol driver position, in September of that year. The responsibilities included checking on approximately 20 remote sites during an 8-hour shift. I disclosed during interview that I had a two-week, out-of-country vacation planned and paid-for during the last two weeks of December. I was told that would NOT be a problem. I was hired. Flash forward to the second week of December. I had a conversation with my boss where I reminded him of my trip. He said that he could NOT grant me the vacation time. I reminded him of our conversation when he hired me. He said he remembered that conversation and stood his ground not approving the vacation, because he said he couldn't cover the patrol route while I was gone. I told him I understand and told him I quit. It's amazing the leverage you gain when you're willing to quit! I took my vacation and returned to that job when it was finished.
The classic "I will be going on vacation for these dates. It's up to you whether I come back here, or go work for your competitor when I get back." Always makes me grin when someone is in a position to stick to their guns on this sort of thing :D
This is why I always ask for my planned vacation requests to be written into the offer letter that way it is out of your bosses hands and becomes a corporate issue.
@@SavageHungarian Yup. I also did it when I was a hiring manager because I wanted to protect my new hires from schedule deadlines, etc. It's a great idea.
When I worked in retail, I constantly had management denying time off. Medical appointments, surgical appointments, cancer treatments, vacation, family, always denied, citing "lack of coverage". I was given a choice between "your career or your health lies". That place absolutely crushed my self-confidence, but I walked out when it came to cancer. I am not going to die for a scummy minimum wage job. Then they called the cops on me at 3 in the morning for a "wellness check" every other day or so for about a month, until I notified them any further harassment would be met with swift and brutal legal consequences.
First time seeing your channel! This is a wonderful story! I am so tired of seeing employees being treated like chattel!! Bravo Kirsten! I am so very proud of you!!! I too was an employee who was taken advantage of. Being a single woman it was hard to walk out. But, over the yrs. more and more was put on my shoulders. At first I was puffed up with pride that I was good at every new task I took on. Job vacancies were exactly that. Why hire someone, it was running smoothly. Then something happened, and I was raked over the coals. I listened quietly as I was dressed down, for job duties, that were not in my job description. It was the very strangest thing, but something in my head just “popped”. I thanked them for their concerns and promptly quit. I got a bankers box and as I was packing my desk, the three of stood around my desk spitting nickels. You can’t leave, we maybe overreacted, no, no no, we didn’t mean to come across so harshly, it could have happened to any of us!!!!!!! I took my purse and box and walked out after 12 yrs. I survived. But they had to hire three people to do my job. And from what I heard, it was a bloody mess the first two weeks, because things were not done. The big dogs had absolutely NO clue what I truly did. Now, over 30 yrs later and retired, it was the best thing I ever did in my life. I was such a mouse! How I ever put up with it, makes me ashamed I was so shy and timid. I feel so sad for that young woman. I had a degree, but was so very very quiet. Applying for jobs for me, was gut wrenchingly terrifying 😪😪😪😪😪😪
I did the math ... she was getting $16.87 per hour, not accounting for any time she was working in addition to the 16 hours per week. That seems woefully low considering the seemingly expansive responsibilities.
@@TheGlock30owner its a shame she didnt get the benefit of vacation time. If she was willing to quit over a lack of vacation the job is probably pretty awful on top of the low wage and vacation issue
Years ago when my husband was still active duty military and stationed away from the family I requested a week off from the local casino (tribal) as he was deploying to Afghanistan. My request was denied and I was told that the National Guardsman who worked there with us had been told she would deploy several times but never had. They obviously didn't understand the difference between active duty and reserve/national guard, so I quit....the next day my daughter was also denied time off to go see her dad before he deployed so she also quit. I know it left management scrambling to find replacements but if my husband had died in afghanistan rather than just being injured I would have never forgiven myself.
Louise you have to live with yourself and the decisions you make and I would have done exactly the same. My husband was in the British Army and he was told "you WILL be on parade" even though they knew I was sick and couldn't get out of bed to care for our month old son. Yes he went on parade, with our son in his pram. I bet he looked really cute lined up with his buddies complete with a baby in a pram. They sent him home.
"Doing work for free devalues the concept of work for everyone." It's a hard pill to swallow, but doing unpaid work -- or work that's outside/above of your expected job role -- is doing a severe disservice. You're cheating yourself of money you should be getting paid, and you're normalizing the expectation of free labor from others. It's not conscientious working extra for free -- it's shameful. Those people make it worse for everyone else.
As a part-time gigging guitarist, I refuse to attend 'open-mic' nights, because they're just a way for venues to provide entertainment without paying the musicians, and as you rightly say, this devalues the concept of work.
The place I used to work at, expected you to do your job in a certain amount of hours. Unfortunately, there were a million things that had to get done, so I did what that clerk did, and worked on my free time to finish all those jobs. My dad kept telling me a corporation is not a human being, it doesn’t care that you’re loyal. I should’ve quit sooner. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Over the years, several times I have seen dedicated workers being taken for granted and belittled. However, when they left or were forced to take early retirement, they had to be replaced by 2 people to do the same amount of work.
Lol! Just like the Postal Service. I worked for them pricks for 31 years. They make you feel like your requesting a million dollar advance. When they offered me an early retirement, I already had my years in and I jumped at the opportunity. Working 6 days a week 90% of your career definitely takes a toll on you. Six months later they were clamoring for me to help them during the Christmas holidays. My response: " Go Fuck Yourself "
Happened to me more than once. Was treated like I was lower than whale crap when I was working for them but when I left it was like OMG now what are we gonna do. One place in particular had to hire 2 people to replace me, paid them both more than I was getting and ended up losing their biggest customer which was 30% of their business because everything was so screwed up. So I guess they really showed me… As my late mother used to say, you know what’s worse than me? No me…
Par for the course in the military. The hard workers don't get the recognition, and get passed over for promotion, so they decide not to reenlist. But the idiot that was making the decisions and took the worker for granted, gets promoted.
I was one such for 5 years. the 2 hired to take on my duties were each paid twice what i had been receiving. zero shame for giving them 4 hours notice.
I worked in a job, 6 days a week for 2 years, including all holidays. I was paid a good amount by the hour so no complaints there. I told the owner I needed 2 weeks break, camping trip to refresh. The owner said if I missed one day to never come back so I took a 3 week break and on my return found out the owner had collapsed and gone to hospital trying to cover my position.
Something similar happened when my dad retired after over 40 years working for the local court house. The people in charge never learnt to do certain things because they were hired for political and cultural reasons rather than qualifications. My father has a law degree which wasn't required for the job but helped greatly and he was very heavily involved in the process of scheduling, bail and warrants. Suddenly when dad left and all of a sudden the whole system came crashing down because no one knew what to do or missed sending notifications of court dates etc. They couldn't even use the remote witness video system (he couldn't either) because he use to call me when that wasn't working. It's hilarious to me that an office of about 12 people and a courthouse with about 50 people didn't know how to do the important stuff and only realised that when the one guy who had been there since the place was built retired.
The next 20 years are gonna be wild as all the actually working employees die or retire and you have a wave of elderly systems and no one with the knowledge to run it.
@@NEPAAlchey pretty much. Most workplaces I've been in have about 20% of staff with skills, experience and problem solving skills to work through problems. The rest are bobble heads and diversity hires who have no idea how they got the job let alone how to do the job.
Happy retirement for your dad. A friend of mine retired and her replacement kept calling her for how to do the job up to 6 months later. She finally told her no more calls, learn to do your job.
I worked as a performance analyst as a specialist with a very expensive toolset and was denied days off requests and just bad treatment all around. I was in charge of running a team at a major European institution. When my contract was coming up for renewal I convinced members of the team that they should look for other contracts. They bailed and left and suddenly the organisation had deadlines and millions riding on it. So I would not sign without double the rate. It worked and I worked another 6 months there and bought a lexus with the money. Was a real win and I remember it to this day.
A former employer of mine tried to force me to come to work on a day I had requested off, almost 2 years in advance. My first week working for this company, around October of 2015, I put in to have August 21st, 2017, off work. They approved it immediately. That date, was the date of the solar eclipse that went across the entire US and it fell on a Monday. The Friday before, my bosses boss approached me and asked if I'd be willing to reschedule my day off for another time. I said, "Sure, if can you modify the alignment of the Earth, moon and Sun so I can see a total solar eclipse." See, my boss didn't know how to run the department I was in at a manufacturing company. I basically ran the department but my boss licked a lot of assholes to be the one in charge. I still took my day off but at 6 AM, the morning I was off, my phone started ringing. Other guys I work with, asking me what specific drill bit to use for certain things, etc. They called so much, I called the office and asked if I was going to get paid for taking work phone calls all day. I was told no, so I told them that I was shutting my phone off. When I came in the next day, the department hadn't finished a single product. About 3 months after I left that place, they shut down the entire department because no one knew how to do everything. They refused to pay me what I deserved. Today, I work an easier job, making a lot more money.
You can put in leave too far in advance, and they can forget what days you had requested off. In 2 years your boss could have changed or the HR person.
@@richardpowell1425 Neither changed and I didn't ever bring up that I had a day off coming up. My bosses boss knew found out elsewhere and approached me about changing it.
@@ronalddregan9431 Actually, where the company is located, wasn't in the path if the total eclipse but all of the employees did go outside to watch the partial eclipse for that area. Everyone was pretty jealous when I showed them the video I took of totality.
I once had a Director of Nurses who told me that I had to choose between staying at the bedside of my wife who was in the Intensive Cardiac Care Unit, and coming into work or lose my job. I told her that I could always find another job, even if it was flipping burgers at a fast food joint, but I only had 1 of my wife. Told her that I would clean out my locker and punch out, and not look back. Guess she was not expecting my reaction, as other nurses always gave in to her. (She refused to give one nurse the day off to attend her only sons' wedding! - The nurse worked that day and went to the reception after work.) She backpedaled, and changed her statement to "the next time it happens, you will be fired." I quit about 3 months later, after finding another nursing position closer to home with better pay and working conditions.
Nursing field seems like the worse field to try that stuff. I mean they will literally hire anyone with a pulse if they show up so they know if things don't pan out with them you could have applied to a billion other places and started working the next day.
@@volkswagenginetta - Had nurses aides and nurses walk off the job - that is called desertion of the patients, deriliction of duty. They got reported to the state licensing board, and were unable to get work again , because of their stupidity. They literally blackballed themselves from their profession. Nurses get their license or registration pulled by the state, and aides get their certification pulled. Your statement doesn't hold water, at least not back when I was working as a nurse. I retired 11 years ago, so maybe things have changed, but I have my doubts.
I did this one time! About 8 months later, the owner of the business called me a basically begged me to come back. He paid for my relocation, a pay raise from what I was making before and I kept my time with the company and I got another week of vacation time! I went back and was promoted to manager of the second location! It worked out rather well for me. I'm very grateful that my mother raised me and installed a great work ethic! God rest her soul!🙏
It sounds like she was working a damn near full time schedule, but they were steadfast that she was 'part time' and that was the best they could do. There are lots of people who think they can operate like that, and it's always a treat to see them force feed themselves their own hats.
Its the always fun pairing of 'Remember, anyone can be replaced' and 'No vaction for u, we cant replace you.' Lot of Bosses use both phrases, and dont even see the irony
Years ago I worked for a company that laid off a bunch of people saying they had "cut the fat". Shortly thereafter, they canceled vacation requests for the Summer months due to staffing issues. I sent my boss an email stating that I would not be in the office from July 1st to July 15th, and if that was a problem then he could consider this email my resignation. I was allowed to take my vacation. :D
This is what happens when any organization grows too reliant on any single pack-mule employee and too complacent to do anything about it. "Eh, she's got it. She's a trooper. She'll make it work somehow. She'll get it done. She always has up until now. No reason to think anything's ever gonna change." Even though literally everything changes.
You're so right. I used to work for a company that would not let people move from group to group internally because they were "too valuable" in their current position. So what happened? People quit. It always boggled my mind that I was too valuable to move 10 cubicles over the wall where I was available to consult on my previous job but not valuable enough to keep me in the company from quitting. When I turned in my notice, I had several managers come to me telling me how they tried repeatedly to get my in their group and had that happened, I would have stayed since I was bored doing what I was doing. After I left, a colleague reached out to me saying how there was some software that I wrote that they now referred to as "third rail code" because no one understood it and if you touched it, you died. Oh well.
No, that is what happens when you got freeloaders getting paid more than the people actually doing the work they get to sleep or do whatever they want while others work
It always warms my heart a little when an over-managed, understaffed company finally comes to a realization who keeps the company running. Shame an entire community has to suffer for that, though. I hope lessons were learned, but experience tells me otherwise.
Similar story for myself. However it has a different twist. I was technical support and the first PC installer for a financial company. This happened in the mid-80s. The Financial company decided to outsource their technical department. I was salaried, so there was no overtime to be paid. However I love my job and worked hard. I saved the company 2 million in my first couple of years over device procurement. The computer department managers were scared of me because I had access to everything. This was provided to me by one of the CEOs because I had saved a very important meeting because of a technical glitch that no one else had an idea on how to solve. I was the first to be outsourced and escorted out of the building. The outsourcing company sent 5 employees to do my job. I got another job almost immediately and realized I was totally being underpaid as my new salary was twice the amount. Two weeks had followed and my old manager had let me know that they had 10 people doing my job, and they still could not keep up. A month after they let me go, they offered me my job back as the outsourcing company said it was impossible for them the have less than 15 to do that job. It was not cost effective for the company to pay 15 salaries for the job I did. I did not refuse but asked for double from what the current company was paying me(4x my old salary). They had actually agreed, but I decided to stay with the current company. It was nice that I only had to work 7.5 hours a day, and not have to work myself to the bone. Companies, take care of your employees, and they will take care of you! The hardworking ones are not there for the money, we are there to do our work as it is personal to us. However when we find out we were being used, with it being personal we take it to heart!
In hawaii also abroad. In2010 i took a job in rural nevada at a small car repair shop. Far from a perfect individual always i try looking at things from others view. to date ive worked for this place off and om for over 10 years.being fired & hired back on a whim.been let go for everything from "dishonesty" to being too popular to making correct change.the latest was for damaging a customers vehicle on my day off.rehired 7mos later with payroll deductions to coversaid customers ins deduction.needless to say it has been a roller coaster ride.upshot is; have recently suffered a stroke and am not able to work any longer. Am 61 yrs old. Broke/homeless. only good is gave up the notion of a gold watch devafes ago. top that!
I know what you mean, I loved my job but when I could not get the time off because they wanted me to handle the month end reports while I was on holiday mind you I quit I was going over seas so no deal they did offer me my job back but I had already taken on a new and better job when I got back from the States😹😳
Had a friend, a machinist, who would tell his employer [ he had many ] that come the summertime he takes Fridays off to kayak. He would just laugh when they didn't believe him and some would fire him. Because the shortage of expert machinists is a thing he always had a job and every nice Friday in the summer he would stop by my shop with a kayak on his roof.
Yep, I know a machinist in a very similar situation, and I took inspiration from him in my own life. I have a “day job” but also run my own little auto shop from my home garage. I only take the more difficult electrical & drivability problems that other local shops & dealers haven’t been able to figure out, and it keeps me quite busy! But nowadays I always tell my clients: I work at my own speed, when I have time, so I will not tell you when your vehicle will be ready. Others have failed to repair it in the past, that’s why you brought it to me. If I have the car for two weeks, I have it for two weeks. If this doesn’t work for you, that’s fine, just take it elsewhere.
@@97marqedman As long as you charge enough for a good retirement. Me I'm retired and did way to much for too little. There are many who need competent honest mechanics, some say I was being taken advantage of.
@biblereader exactly why I quit my union. When I got hired I was told was was told that I could not ever be late or take unapproved time off. Well, I took some unapproved time off (had vacation days) and the next day after I was supposed to return to work I was told to stay home because my foreman (I’m a foreman too I was just on someone else’s job) was mad I took a day off. So that Monday when I was supposed to return to work I text him and my boss one min before I was supposed to be there and said I quit. He goes into this big thing about how I’m gonna ruin my life and how no one else is gonna hire me if I can show up. Little did he know the day he told me to stay home I had an interview and already had another job lined up with better benefits. Then I kept all their tools and said fuck em.
@@97marqedman And I'd make damn sure I would take it elsewhere and I would also let everybody know that your number one concern is not their vehicle or them but YOU and that giant ego that has filled that giant fat head you have! It won't take too long for your customers to tire of your arrogance and just go a little further out of their way to the next town over with a good mechanic...
Similar story, when I was 20. I worked of a national (maybe regional) chain of auto repair shops, so I won't mention Manny, Moe, And Jack's shop name. I'd been working there for just under a year while I worked my way through tech school. A holiday weekend was coming up and I had just started dating the women that would go on to become my wife, so I requested one extra day off, along with the three day holiday weekend so we could travel. I requested the time off a month ahead, manager said it wouldn't be a problem because no one else had even requested the weekend (we kept a skeleton crew there even on holiday weekends, and only closed for the actual day of the holiday). Two weeks before the holiday I double checked to make sure there still wasn't a problem, all was great so I go ahead and make plans, book a hotel, etc. The Thursday before I was to go on vacation, one hour before my shift was over, the manager came to me and said I would have to work the entire weekend because all but one of the other mechanics had requested the weekend off earlier that week, and they all had seniority so my request was bumped regardless of when I put it in. I told him not to expect to see me because I didn't play that game. Sure enough, he called my room mates 3 times a day the whole weekend, wanting to know where I was, threatening to fire me if I didn't get to work. One of my room mate told him, "I'm pretty sure he quit, but you can take that up with him when he gets back on Tuesday." Now it's Tuesday, I head into the shop, all of my uniforms in hand. Walk into the shop, hang them on the rack and walk back out. The manager called my house every day for two weeks trying to get me to come back. After talking to one of the guys that still worked there, I found out that the manager had thrown a party at his lake house, and invited all the "senior" mechanics. The other mechanic that was to work the weekend with me had also been slated to be off that weekend and vacation was canceled at the last minute. He also didn't return, but it was because he went back to his home state where he was promptly arrested and sentenced to a year in jail. The store manager had to call the shop manager in to work the weekend, and when he found out where everyone was, demanded that EVERY mechanic report for duty for the entire weekend. Yeah, like I was really going to go back to that environment after that!
Only reason not to mention them is if you still working there they cannot sue you unless your stupid enough to use your real name as your internet user name.
I've told a boss I was taking some vacation and was told, to my face, "you can't take a vacation in your first year" and quit on the spot. That sheer arrogance still amazes me.
Many will require you to accrue the time before the vacation but some, if you have value, will approve it as comp time or will just give you the go ahead.
Man, that sucks. In my country that's not a problem at all as long as it's shared well in advance and you've at least gotten the hang of the job, I think. Of course if there's some personal emergency, can't really do much about that.
When I was still going to school back in the day I worked evenings at a gas station. The manager told us "no one gets vacation during the holidays " and I thought fair enough. The week before Christmas she stops coming to work because she decided to take vacation. She told her supervisor, but none of the other store employees. A few of us were pissed. Come Christmas eve, only one girl showed up for her shift. The store couldn't legally stay open because local law said you needed two clerks in the store. I got fired and immediately hit them for unemployment. They tried to fight it, but in the end I was still able to collect. One of the best Christmases ever.
Not only did this employee go above and beyond for her job it sounds like she worked more hours than she was paid for- that’s illegal. I hope this employee gets hired by a company that appreciates her and pays her appropriately. Thanks for sharing with us.
Most likely she is retired. And cannot legally work over a certain amount of hours! My uncle is in a similar position. SSI says he can work 20 hrs that's all. His boss will absolutely fire him if he doesn't complete something. So work 30 hrs for 20 or get fired. In your opinion who is breaking the law????
@@amandak.4246 Exempt salaried employees must be paid a minimum of $684 per week, regardless of how much or little they work. That's about $35,500 per year, so she's not close to qualifying under the FLSA. I saw she worked 68 hours per month average, which indicates she was making in the ballpark of $16 per hour, and suggests she was not working 40 hours in any single week, so she wouldn't get any time and a half, despite being non-exempt. She's likely being paid a legal wage, even if it's insufficient to make it a fair market wage.
@@mike-sk2li look for a different position, and report that boss to the SS department, who should be able to direct him how to proceed. Alternately, the Milton solution.
It's not illegal for her to do work on her own time by her own choosing, so long as she isn't required to do it and her employer doesn't know. If the employer knows she's working "off the clock," then that *might* be a different matter. But if they pay her for 16 hours/week and, to the best of their knowledge, that's all she's working, then if she's working more, that's her choice.
@@amandak.4246 : years ago, I was going to be placed into an assistant nurse manager position BUT they wanted me to agree to it per a salary. NO‼️was my answer to the salary job. Well, they changed it to hourly rates........ I knew that I would be working many many hours! Considering that there was a 3 month period where I did double 8 hour shifts (8 hrs. OB-GYN & 8 hrs. L&D) and still had to take home a lot of paperwork to do (evals, hiring applications, schedules for 3 departments, etc) on my rare days off, taking a salary would have had me working for way less than minimum wages. I worked so many hours that taxes took a huge chunk of that pay. I had staff nurses bringing home more actual pay because the taxes.
This reminds me of the aerospace company I work for in the late 70' and early 80's. I worked my arse of trying to get everything done I had to do as an expeditor. While I was working 80-hour weeks to get the project I was working on kept up to date I was told that I couldn't work anymore overtime since the other expeditor wanted some overtime too. I told my supervisor if that was the case then he could take over the project then, that I was not going to be responsible for lackadaisical work done by him that he had troubles doing the work he had. When my next annual review came up, I was told I would not get a raise since I made too much already. I said fine and went active-duty Army from the reserves that I was already serving in. A couple of months later I found out that my supervisor had to hire two and was looking for a third to replace me since they could not keep up with the work load I carried. That was 1987 and I have laughed about it ever since.
I’ve seen this before especially during the pandemic. I knew a young lady that was working 7 days a wk, sometimes as much as 16 hr days for the wages of one job. It was doing pandemic/Covid related things in a very small rural town. Everyone kept saying it ‘wouldn’t be forever’, but it went n for a yr and a half. Local citizens were scolding her and belittling her for ‘not doing her job’ if she took a few hrs off or didn’t answer phone calls at all hrs of the night. After so long of working these hrs in the first place let alone not being compensated for it or feeling appreciated, she did what any sane person would do. She quit. Not having anyone to cover isn’t a valid excuse to not give time off. Hire a per diem fill-in person that is capable of roving between several positions if necessary.
Note how the town Steve is talking about can't find someone to keep records, license pets, register cars(usually a state function),animal control, do the code assesssor's job, inspect buildings and act as state liaison. But they *sure* as h___ can find someone to collect tax payments.
@@sadjaxx My old High School had a study period they called PLT (something like Personal Learning Time.) Some parent(s) called in and complained about some portion of the name's meaning and got it changed to MAPS (Mentoring And Personal Study or something along those lines) either a year or two after the school opened. none of the kids that were there for the first couple years called it that, though. don't know how it's going now.
My favorite is when an employer “requires” two weeks notice but does not pay two weeks when firing someone as well as fighting unemployment. I just say “you’re fired” to the employer
Nobody can “require” two weeks notice. It’s just customary. It’s not like they can keep you from quitting. Although not giving two weeks can hurt you when it comes to references. I’ve had a number of ex employees bitch at me for costing them a job when they had them call me for a reference.
Usually two weeks is a courtesy that some employees will give their employer. As a practical matter, you really can’t force someone to work who doesn’t want to, nor would you want to try.
@@ronnie3044 Can you imagine? You tell the boss you quit and he/she says "no!" Then rounds up the other employees to block the doors so you can't leave LOL.
@@ronnie3044 I'm involved in the hiring process and I no longer consider an employee quitting on the spot disqualifying. I simply look at what the employer they left does when the layoff employees. If that employer does not offer severance, then their employees have no obligation to give notice. Companies deserve what they dish out. You definitely see this in the hiring process. For some time now, HR departments have decided the way to deal with candidates is to ghost the candidate if they're not selected for interview or if they're not selected as the hire. I don't know why that's been decided, but it is definitely the norm. No it is not uncommon to have people just not show up for an interview. It is also not uncommon to have people not show up on their first day when offered a job. Sometimes when contacted they'll tell you they took another job, but often they'll just ghost and ignore contact attempts. It's a employee's market right now. Perhaps companies should consider knocking off some of the BS they've adapted over the years and treat candidates and employees decent? The ones that do will be the ones that can get employees in this market.
We nurses work far too much and I personally work a job for 5 years without time off, each year I had to sell back my time off hours because we could only roll over 30 days of time off, I finally went to the CEO and told him I was taking 6 weeks off whether he like it or not, they hired a temporary travel nurse to cover my position. We really should not have to resort to this sort of thing but there you are.
Something similar happened where I worked, here in the Netherlands. A 58 year old college got a bad annual evaluation. He said if you don't need me I'm taking up my pension now. They told him he could not do that because he had to notify the company half a year in advance. His reply, "In that case I notify the company that I wil retire next year. Until than I will take the 250 vacation days I have saved. Goodbye"
I had a boss that scheduled me way too many hours (often 40+h) knowing that I was a high school student and that id often stay late to finish her ever expanding list of tasks unpaid. When I realized i was really struggling at school I tried giving my two weeks and instead let her talk me into staying in return for a reduced schedule that would give me time to actually do homework. Two days later I find out I'm scheduled for another full week and tell my co-worker to pass on the message I won't be showing up for any of those shifts. I liked that job, but have no regrets quitting.
As soon as I saw this I knew it was gonna be good. This sounds like front-page reddit fodder! Also protip: If you can't make do with an employee being gone for a few days, then you REALLY can't handle when they are gone for good.
That’s known as having a “bus number” of 1. And when you have that for everything that is done, the more people you have, the quicker the inevitable doom.
I worked for a restaurant for over three years without a day off. That's 1131 consecutive days. I repeatedly for almost a year begged for one day off and was repeatedly told they can't run the restaurant without me being there every day. So fed up I told them I am taking not one but two days off and they said if I do I don't have a job and I said "so be it." I gave them three weeks notice of the two days I was taking off and they threatened me with termination right up until the day I didn't show up. They called me at home multiple times demanding I return to work and continuously threatening me with termination. I shut off my phone. The next day they were knocking on my door and I handed them my notice of self termination and simply informed them I no longer worked for them. Best move I ever made. On the third day my former boss came by my place yet again and begged me to come back to work and offered me a raise and I told him only if I get two days off every week and a paid vacation every year and I get Christmas, Thanksgiving and 4th of July off. He agreed to everything.
Hot take: The Clerks time off would have shutdown the town anyway
Then only for her vacation time. ( 2 weeks??)
Yeah, but at least they would have known when she would be off and when she'd be coming back to give notice to people about the thing. It would either require someone absolutely desperate for a job or has income from somewhere else to want that thing. Because I bet if she'd decided to only do work during the hours she was paid they would have canned her to find someone else who'd be willing to work on their own time and dime.
1)Not if a stand-in was located.
2)Big difference between _14 days._ And a permanent/sudden collapse.
They were drastically her in the first place, which makes the management even more incompetent!
(Does "hot take" really mean 'doesn't understand the idea of Delegation and Backing Up coworkers'?)
@@paul.van.santvoord1232 Also, if she were in Cell Phone range, they could call her for remote assistance. (There were times that I was PO'd at my Company / boss, but would never NOT help a co-worker.)
Hot Take: Piss poor planning is not her fault and she shouldn't be denied vacation.
I had an employee come one day and say she wanted to resign. I said well I can't stop you but do you mind telling me why? She said she was pregnant (she didn't show). I told her you don't need to quit for that, you're entitled to 4 months maternity leave at full pay. She didn't know about it! Anyway tragically her baby died when he was a couple of days old and she went into a depression. We gave her the time she needed, even kept paying her for the first six months and it was over a year later that I called her husband to ask how she was. After talking to him I called her and said I thought she needed to come back to work. She could start slow, do a couple of days a week but I believed she needed to get back on her feet. Obviously we'd reorganized her work by then and didn't really need her but we would make space. So in the end, 15 months after leaving she came back and became one of our most loyal and hardworking teammates. Happily she and her husband have three beautiful kids now and she finally resigned a couple of years ago because she was chosing to be a full time mom. But she didn't leave us in the lurch, she got her sister to interview for the job and she trained her better than we ever could have!
That's what you get when you treat people right.
Your actions are unfortunately rare nowadays. Lots of employers expect employees to work extra hard and devote lots of time to their jobs but rarely go to bat for those workers. Its sad that she wanted to quit due to pregnancy but I’ve seen lots of ppl do that or the employer will find out and let them go because they consider it a distraction or that when the baby is due you’ll take extra time off. We all have to do more to stick up for our people when they need us often times that will pay off on its own quickly. Ppl think everyone is just out for themselves but lots of ppl will do more than their share for a job that takes care of them. Hell lots of ppl do more than their share for jobs that clearly don’t care about them. Thanks for being a good one.
How very sad, yet what an incredible thing to do for her. This is truly the bitter and the sweet. Thank you from all of us who hope there are several million more just like you.
i dont know you but thanks for being one of the good bosses . there is so few out there !
Working without pay is never "going above and beyond." It is wage theft. Period.
Ageeed....
Yeah, I want to know if she was actually paid for 16 hours a week or if she was paid for the extra time she typically spent. If she wasn't paid more than 16 hours a week I don't think anyone should apply for her job.
yea, he said shes conscientious, no she was getting stolen from. and she did not like it anymore so she left. good on her.
She was getting time robbed by them. The time restrictions is just to pay less, not because the job can be done in that time. The pay is also really low for those level of skills. Screw that town.
@@JW-452 A lot of people aren't conscientious until they reach a breaking point.
While working as a bank teller, I asked the manager if I could leave ONE hour early on Friday, it was Tuesday when I requested it. I explained that I needed laser eye surgery to repair retina damage, and presented a doctor's note. This was the only appointment I could get as the surgeon was super booked. I had NEVER requested time off before. My manager said "no" because Fridays were our busiest time, and told me that "I needed to find another doctor." So, I quit on the spot, had my operation on Friday, and Monday morning HR called, apologized, and begged for me to return.
Hahahahaha, good for you and thank you for the story!
Well done
@@bbb462cid Asked me? Not quite.
They hinted that if I did return I'd "more than likely" receive a promotion, and if I chose not to return they would "happily" provide me with a generous severance package (cough, cough, hush money).
A lawyer advised me not to sue as I wasn't physically harmed. And the most I could get was a small settlement which would be about the same as the severance package, and not take years to resolve. So...I walked with a year's salary in my pocket. And for the record, this bank no longer exists. Many of the people who worked there were fired, quit or took early retirement.
@@bbb462cid Exactly. Sadly, in the "Right to Work" state where I currently live many employers abuse workers and violate their rights. The people born here (and I was not) are taught at an early age to just do what you are told and don't speak up. Sad.
did you go back?
I asked my employer for a week off without pay ($2 an hour) so I could travel from Colorado to California to marry my fiancé . He said no, so I told him I am quitting. We
got married, I got another job, and my wife and I are still together after 50 years. I never missed that job for a moment.
a friend of mine worked retail sales for CompUSA back in the 90's. he got his vacation approved months in advance for his wedding and honeymoon (a grand total of 4 days), the week of his wedding comes and he is on the schedule... he quit, got married, found a new MUCH better paying job in tech support less than a month later. today 20 plus years later he is a happily married father of two with an amazing wife. Meanwhile, today, CompUSA still wonders why they went out of business and TigerDirect, the online store they closed all their physical stores down for to save money folded as well not too long after..
Fifty years together?! That is awesome. My hat’s off to you and your wife, sir.
When I got married we purposely postponed our honeymoon because our wedding was in a period of high retail traffic. We decided to hold it off until late January and early February to not conflict with any holidays. My vacation request was denied quoting it was too soon after Christmas and new years. I told the manager I’ll just go above their head. Thankfully the store manager was more understanding after I explained the entire situation to him.
Without pay?
This happened around 20 years ago. My wife was getting the runaround from work for vacation time. She got passed around from one manager to another. She got pissed and went on the computer and put out her resume to several different jobs. She got hired immediately and asked her new company for a later start date. They ok’d it and she went back to her job and handed in her resignation. Her boss called her into his office for an exit interview and was saying that he was having a rough week because he heard someone was quitting because they wouldn’t give her a holiday. She said, “Yeah, that’s me”. He was clueless. We had two glorious weeks in the Caribbean.
Important rules to know: 1) HR is not your friend. 2) the company is not your "family". 3) you have earned your time off and have a right to take it when you like. 4) It is not up to you to find someone to cover your shift while you're gone--that's what management is for.
perfectly said Roberta
Great🏆
That’s what management is supposed to be for you mean.
Not nowadays. Time off is fictitious
THIS!!
I was a Medical Laboratory Tech at a major Army Medical Center and had less than a year left on my enlistment. During the previous years at that Hospital (From 2001-2005) I had earned several 4 day passes for stellar work in the lab and was always denied the right to take the 4 day pass because they were "short staffed." I had also had three or four separate one week vacations turned down for the same reason. I was always annoyed by this, but I was in the ARMY and a lot of our military personnel were now over in the desert so I agreed that we might be short staffed. At the 6-month mark for the end of my enlistment I had to have my "Terminal leave" forms submitted. This is the ARMY basically letting you take any leave time you had accumulated off against your last day of enlistment.
Now I had somewhere around 65 days accumulated because I had not been allowed to take any vacation for over 2 years on top of the 30 days I was saving for a small break before going to work as a civilian. On the day before I was set to start my terminal leave, with all of my paper work filled out signed, gear turned back into the army and what not, I was informed that my terminal leave was denied and I would not be allowed to take any time off. I was pissed. The sergeant in charge of my section of the lab had held on to my leave paperwork for months, way past when it was supposed to be forwarded to troop command, so that it could be rejected for turning it in too late even though everyone involved in my chain of command knew I had turned it in as they had all witnessed me doing so.
I was furious at this sergeant and had definitely let him know how I felt about it with a wonderful and vociferous use of colorful language. For which he wrote me up for an Article 15 for disrespecting an NCO.
What that jerk didn't know is that although I was getting out of the ARMY, since I had a college degree, my lab certification and now 6 years of experience, I had all ready accepted a job back at the same hospital in charge of that section of the lab that this moron had delayed my from starting because I was supposed to start during my terminal leave. I was now his civilian boss.
ARMY medical centers are a convoluted mess of bureaucracy, with mixed up chains of command and supervision. But I was getting out as a specialist that used the ARMY to pay off college loans and came back now in charge of the staff sergeant that screwed me over. Needless to say, we were always "Short staffed" for any vacation or 4 day pass that sergeant submitted for the next few years until he moved to a different post, even denying him his honey moon.
Yes, I was that petty. He deserved it and I still feel no guilt about it
Karma is a b*tch!!
BRAVO👏👏👏👏
That’s not petty. That’s training, which he certainly needed.
Thank you for sticking to him later on . You think it's bad in a lab unit you ought to be in a combat unit and watch these people run around like a chicken with it's head chopped off scared shit less !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.................
Revenge is best served cold. Just hoping he learned a lesson.
I had spent nearly $4500 on a vacation package that was going to be my family and two other families. All 6 adults had made arrangements for their time off, set up people to take care of each house while on vacation, gone and gotten all the shots, gotten passports, and everything else that was need to go to mexico for 3 weeks. All of which was a dream vacation we had talked about and saved for over a ten year period. We put time off requests in nearly a year ahead of time and got it approved.
3 days before we were set to board the plane for our dream vacation, my employer comes to me and tells me that i cant take my time off because my manager decided the week before that he needed that time off instead, and i would have to postpone my time off.
Miraculously, they found a way to cover me when i told them i wouldnt be there for those 3 weeks and it was up to them if i still worked there or not when i got back.
While on vacation, i spoke with my family and friends about the situation and decided it wasnt worth the hassle and that i would open my own shop. When i got back, i worked there for 1 month and put in my notice. Been working for myself ever since and dont regret a second of it.
that is wonderful. thank you for writing about it. i am really happy that you stood up for yourself! : )
Wow, that is an inspiring story, thank you!
That’s the mess there that gets me. A responsible worker, like you, preps for their vacation. The former employer had enough time to cover your shift.
So the manager knew you were on vacation, and planned his own without "managing" an replacement. Bah. I'm somewhat to lazy to open my own business, but that's one of the reasons I like to work for smaller companies that don't have a "management" to get in the way of things and only siphon money for themselves out.
In the ~22 years in my current company the one situation that came "closest" to your example was one time where my replacement got in an accident a few days before my vacation. But even then the owner didn't come with a "you have to...." request, he came with a "Hey, listen, there is an emergency, how do you think we can handle it?" request. And we managed to get by with a daily phone call (on the clock) at a fixed time for possible open urgent questions.
Manager should be not even get time off or they are not needed if they are doing it.
I’m not sure how the town couldn’t justify a salary increase for this woman when she was literally doing EVERYTHING!!!!
The Mayor/council failed to make clear to the townspeople why they needed to fund pay increases and therefore the townspeople voted no on the increased funding.
Too busy paying themselves bonuses.
And she only asked for time off, not a salary increase.
They probably can't admit in writing that she is working more than 16 hours a week, because that would be wage theft. That makes it hard to go to the voters and ask for higher taxes "so we can stop breaking the law and pay for the work we need done."
well, town folks usually demand lower taxes
Mom was town clerk in a small town for many years. She did everything. Since she handled birth certificates, marriage licenses, and death certificates, she called herself the "Hatched, Matched and Dispatched department."
That's cute! And true!
That's brilliant, haha
I wanna shake your moms hand. That is an elite joke lmao
That sounds official...
In South Africa we called Births, Deaths and Marriage the same thing. Hatch, Match and Dispatch
This sounds like the beginning of a Stephen King story: A small town in Maine that doesn't realize how over burdened their underpaid town clerk was... or what her job really entailed. Little do they know that this small town clerk is in charge of handling records, registering vehicles, and keeping the gates to hell closed.. and they just denied her vacation request.
So convenient it's already located in Maine! ha
@@judithjanes5738 Quick, send it (anonymously) to Stephen King! We need a new book from him!
Becky, write that book yourself!
Frustrated and underappreciated, her anger grows daily. It is almost the 1st of July, the time of blood sacrifice. If she doesn't place her blood in the crucible at the stroke of midnight like generations of gatekeepers like her have done for the last 470 years then time will fail and ancient evils will arise to walk among men! She watches the children play marbles in the bright sunshine as she climbs into her car and simply drives out of town, taking nothing with her except a little rune stone, blackened with centuries of blood stains and grime, the markings on it barely visible, which she drops at the border of the town.
She never looks back.
A shout of laughter for that post, Becky. Brilliant.
The reason they're having so much trouble finding a "qualified employee willing to work part time" is because any qualified employee can do better than 13k a year, plus we all know that they dont really mean part time. They mean full time without the benefits but they're going to call it part time so they dont have to give you those benefits.
The pay is only authorized for 16 hours each week. Except it isn't a job that can be completed in 16 hours each week.
They are effectively looking to hire a senior citizen busy body that just want something to do, but don't care about things like wages or work-life balance.
I realize the problem when he mentioned that they didn't explain why they gave their position a raising income while not having any budget for a position that is required by Maine law
It sounds like there are enough part time jobs in that town to make one decently paid full time job.
they should take a page out of UPS' playbook: instead of hiring 1 person at 40 hours per week + benefits, hire 2 people each at 20 hours a week with no benefits. win-lose!
I've worked several jobs like that while looking for better offers. Every single employer acted like I killed their puppy when I gave notice. One even threatened to withhold my last check to cover the cost of recruiting my replacement.
This lady was the town clerk, building inspector, animal control officer, and tax collector. Four jobs in one and they only paid her $13,500 a year.
Most of those jobs alone start at about 30 or 40 grand a year depending on where you live. Good for her for quitting. Take your resume to a real city and make 4 or 5 times the money.
Now imagine 600 people putting together several 30 grand salaries out of their pockets. It is a small town, it is not like people are born and dying in hundreds every day
@@dmitripogosian5084 That's $50 annually for each employee, so it's not exactly a huge burden, although salaries aren't the only expense associated wtih employees. If the town is unable to provide the services necessary to maintain itself, they probably should be looking at cancelling their municipal charter and becoming an unincorporated area of the county.
@@dmitripogosian5084then they can afford to let her go on vacation.
Seriously? Thats how much they were paying her? They were obviously takijg advantage of her and never expected her to stand up for herself.
@@dmitripogosian5084 Right, but she's not a slave, she needs time off eventually.
Steve! I got a correction for you! It's not called "going above and beyond" on the part of the employee, it's called "wage theft" on the part of the employer.
In some cases "volunteered hours" for a public job can be an illegal act. For example, if a person is employed by the Federal Government, no employee is permitted to "volunteer " their time. Violates the Appropiation Act .
well theirs plenty of employees committing age theft as well.
wage theft
@@ronblack7870 oh no some employee didn't do busy work so that entitled you to rip them off their ot/pto what have you for the next 6 years. Yup exactly equal
@@ronblack7870 What? Someone took a piss on the clock? FIRE THEM /s
I like how they aren't blaming her for the shutdown. I applaud that they recognize that it was the years of neglect that had put them in the position they are in.
They could have gotten a temp.
@@BlackJesus8463 Most likely no because of all the things she was doing
@@niyablake They have temps now... not enough, but they do have them.
@@rockspoon6528 A monkey could do her job. loljk ✌
They recognised the neglect and i appreciate that they didnt attack the woman, but it shows the inconvenience of the officials when they blame neglect because it's their job to upkeep these things and so they're responsible for the neglect
I worked for a rather large company in the 90's. I put in for a leave of absence as my newborn son was having heart problems and I needed to stay with him 24-7. The human resources lady gave me a form to fill out. I filled out the form stating his health conditions and that I did not know exactly when I could return. One hour after I turned it in she told me, "Your request has been denied." I responded, "Oh, you misunderstood me, I am not asking your permission to take time off. I am just hoping to have a job when I get back." The look on her face was amazing. Two days later I was in the hospital with my son getting some tests done and told the plant manager what happened. He told me not to worry. After 13 weeks he called to see how everything was going and told me I could come back when ever I thought my son was going to be alright. On week fifteen, I called him and said, "If you'll have me back, my son is doing much better and is stable." He said yes. Two months after that, the HR lady was fired because she didn't tell me about the family medical leave act. I worked for that company for twelve years, proudly.
It's not just the act. If that got out, "oh my. Large employer didn't let someone take care of a sick kid?"
@@JoeStuffzAlt Pfft...that happens everyday in this country and zero f's are given.
In America you will be more respected for being a callous money-focussed person.
@@scarling9367 i did 21 years in the USN. after i retired, it was exhilarating to at last be able to tell a self-righteous slave driver to go F himself without repercussions. i told every interviewer the job looked as if it was fun, but the day i'm not having fun, i leave. after quitting every job i've ever had since, i never encountered what some folks here have put up with. it just ain't on my bucket list.
My son had a heart condition and I knew about the family leave act and my employer tried to set limits. I told them what you want doesn't align with what I can do. They had done that with others before me with great success. I was labeled for being difficult but my reply was, I did what was within my rights and right for my family
Like I said to my last job before I quit: PTO stands for Prepare The Others. I’m not “requesting,” I’m “notifying” you that I’m not gonna be there. If I am so important that the job falls apart without me here, maybe that needs to be reflected in my paycheck because I’m not hearing “irreplaceable” out my paycheck
I was on vacation day 2/14 in Paris when I got a phone call letting me know my beloved mother had passed away in Nova Scotia. I lived and worked in California. After all the flights and the funeral I went back to work. My boss called me into her office, handed me a check and told me to go back and finish my vacation. It was amazing. I didn't even think she liked me very much.
That's heart warming
She's a decent human being.
That's an amazing and unusual person. Glad that your boss was a decent human being.
idiot boss should have called him while he was still on vacation.
My story::: I was once called and asked to work on my day off, I was not feeling well so I said no (normally I would go in for the extra money) my boss then tells me if I don’t show up I would be fired, I said ok I guess I’m fired because I’m not going into work today it’s my day off and I’m sick. Two days later on my normal day to work I didn’t go in as I was told I was fired. About 30 minutes into what would have been my shift my boss calls me asking where was I. I said I’m at home, you fired me two days ago. She did she didn’t mean it so please come in and work I don’t have anyone to cover your shift. I told her you should have thought of that before you fired me.
Did you go in?
@@MariVictorius No I did not go in
you should of got that in writing the boss could of claimed your lazy and make you look bad still pos boss litteraly@@popbre3
And then sue for wrongful dismissal!
Made me laugh.
I took a job once that required me to work the weekend once a month. 6 months in, I was being scheduled for every weekend with only about 1-2 days notice. When I complained the boss just said "sorry, that's just the way it is". I found another job on a Wednesday starting the next Monday, on that Friday the boss comes in and says your going to have to work this weekend I said no and handed him by badge. He said you can't just quit without notice, so I told him "sorry, that's just the way it is". On a side note, he was later fired and investigated for embezzlement and theft along with a couple of the guys that never had to work the weekend.
This should be on prorevenge
That is art, “just the way it is”
Sounds about right
Many of the rural letter carriers are facing overwork ,underpay and can’t use vacation or sick leave
AirMech I bet you thought to yourself …. Thats karma! 😉
They can't provide any services ... BUT THEY CAN STILL COLLECT TAXES 😂
Yes, they can still find the time to take your my.
My husband quit work because they rescinded his time off to get married (45 years ago). They suggested he change the wedding to a Thursday instead, as that was his regular day off.
Most satisfying, they called him afterwards and begged him to come back, as they didn't realize he was the only one in the shop who knew how a certain device worked.
We were poor, so he did go back for a few weeks until he found a better job. The new job actually hired him based on the story of being fired for getting married.
The fact that he went back to help bail them out for a minute didn't hurt his reputation either... 👍
Hopefully he went back at an extortionate rate
The same exact thing happened to me in 2020. Said I could have off for the wedding, and I would have to be back the next day. Told my manager I would be going on my honeymoon and was told I would be fired if I did. This was the same manager who I told a year before when i was hired I needed the time off. Told them to save them the headache and paperwork that it would be my last day.
@terpsurfer7221 should have let them fire you as you can get unemployment, never quit if they threaten to fire you
Was he fired? Or did he quit?Get your story straight.
Saw this a couple days ago and immediately thought "Good for her". Sounds like the town didn't realize what a sweet deal it had paying one person $13.5k a year to handle all of those duties. To the person lamenting how hard it is to find qualified people willing to work part time, sounds like you had an excellent one but couldn't keep her because you thought she had no options. The town's "leaders" deserve everything that's happening, or not happening I guess.
If the city cannot afford their employees they should dissolve and let the county handle it or joint employment agreements with other cities to combine financies.
Technically if she did take the time off the entire system would still grind to a halt.
@@mike-sk2li Yeah but only for 2 weeks instead of indefinitely.
She was making only $16.23/hr, which is VERY low for someone with those responsibilities, and even less counting the time she was donating just to keep up.
@@clintmatthews3500 That's a management created staffing problem. Not a her problem.
I worked for the county at our local Senior Citizens center. I needed to have gallbladder surgery and they refused to give me time off! The director said “Can’t you just have it done Friday after work? That way you can be ready to work on Monday”…….😒 Needless to say, I quit.
Now that’s just ridiculous.
Yeah, I've gone through that Friday 💩 myself. Including deaths in the family.
Funny thing, the first time I did it myself. Had my thumb cut off on a Friday. Reattached over the weekend. And back to work on Monday doing the exact same job building aircraft engine struts.
It was nice being young ☺️
... thumb still works too 👍
Now I think about it.
I did quit that company after the 2nd time 🤔
@@My-Pal-Hal You got your thumb cut off a second time?!
@@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm3291 Yeah but it happens. The girl in this 'piece' was doing multiple SEPARATE jobs and wasn't being properly paid for it. I think this happened to them because they probably saddled HER with all the extra jobs instead of hiring another couple of part-timers or just spreading the pain to everyone they did have on staff.
@@virginiamoss7045
No, the other one 😂
No. The second time the company "SUGGESTED" I could wait till Friday, then take the weekend to do my stuff.
My brother had just been killed in the Marines, and they wanted me to wait a couple days. Like I was going to make everyone's plan revolve around a damn company.
I liked the company and job. But, f em. Family means more.
... you can probably guess the company, since they've gone down hill since I left 😂 f m
My mom was the front office manager at a clinic. Her official hours were between 36 & 40 hours a week. She frequently worked more like 60. She frequently did the job of 3 people. She filled in when anyone called off or didn't show up, rearranged the schedule to accommodate all the employees, helped in the billing office, dealt with complaints from the patients and from the doctors, tracked down lost charts, answered the phones, scheduled appointments and contracted people for lab work, janitorial, trash pickup, medical waste disposal, etc.
Eventually she told the doctors she wanted to step down as office manager and go back to her job as a receptionist. They said no. She put up with it for a few more weeks, then she quit. The clinic shut down not long after that.
She added on a newsweek article: Christen Bouchard :"This was not solely a decision based on vacation. There were so many factors to this decision and ultimately I didn’t want to get done. I asked for three and a half days off, over a two week period, two months early. It is my own fault as when I interviewed for the position it came with two weeks of paid vacation. I was also never given any agent fees for anything done while in the office. A whole separate issue that has never been addressed is that my Treasurer received $10,500 in raises during the 20 months I was holding the office, while everyone else remained the same. She makes the same amount I made before leaving to spend maybe 20 hours in the office per month. My monthly hours totaled more than 68, considering the office could only be open and function while I was there, and no other town employee had or currently has office hours. I appreciate your opinion though! Oh and our selectman was busted for drugs and his house was raided. He said it was only ‘personal use’ so there is always that too"
Christen Bouchard
Sounds to me like you should have quit years ago. Seems like you were over due to retire. Good for you !
"3.5 days off over a 2 week period with 2 months notice" they couldn't accommodate this? just put a "closed for the day" sign up for a couple days lol
The selectmen may have to pass his Aderall around to get all the work done 😂
Sounds like a conscientious employee. Wonder if she'll get any job offers without even trying
@@easternwoods4378 No doubt she will.
I worked for a lawyer decades ago. Asked for the Friday after thanksgiving. He asked me a bunch of personal questions. I responded “It was a yes or no question. I don’t need to tell you all that.” He got angry and threw a chair at me. His partner who was there when it happened said she “didn’t see anything.” I quit.
When my next employer called him about hiring me, he lied about a lot of things. He didn’t know I was sitting right there on the phone call. I worked for the next lawyer for 25 years. 😊
Id have thrown it back. Then left. What they gonna do sue you?
They take you to court look at the judge and tell him I learned 2 things working for lawyers they watch each others back and lie.
@@bobbg9041 judges are lawyers. They're all thick as thieves, because they are thieves 😡
@@bobbg9041 I had a lawyer threaten to sue me when I told him off for running over my mailbox when I lived just outside the city for a month. I looked him dead in the eyes and told him "Try it, I know where your skeletons are buried." Suddenly he was offering to pay to have a new one put up. Had a concrete mailbox put up and not even a week later he hit THAT one and totaled his car. Lost his driver's license and his license to practice due to the DUI that couldn't be swept under the rug this time. That prick had used connections to get out of DUI's so often it was insane.
Lawyers are the worst human beings on the planet just short of politicians
I think you had grounds to sue for assault.
I worked for a major (German based) company as a repair engineer. I was responsible for my product line as well as another engineer's product line when he got let go. I did this for about a year and when my annual evaluation came up, I asked for a little more pay for the extra duties I took on. I was working about 60 hours a week keeping 2 departments going.
My boss said it was out of his hands.
A month later I got a better job with a 25% increase and gave my 2 weeks notice.
It took 3 engineers to absorb all the work I was doing.
Sometimes you just gotta call their bluff and move on.
That's how it is. Once they have you, then they don't see a reason to do things to keep you. Most of the time, the only way up is to find a different job.
Your best raises always comes when you change jobs.
I've found out a few times that after I moved on that they had to hire 3 people to do my job. Once I deliberately took on the work of two other people in a bid to get a raise/promotion, only to get the short end of the stick. So I just dropped the extra work and they were forced to hire more people, which cost at least double what I wanted for a pay increase.
@@nolongeramused8135 So they were stupid.
@@mikelarry2602 That, and/or clueless. Also, my boss at the time was sort of a prick; he was one of those guys that obviously played favorites, but was in total denial that he did so.
I went through that a couple of times. Worked for a company that "gave" you 4 weeks vacation, except they'd never let you take it because there was always some "emergency" at the last minute. If you didn't take it by Feb 1 off the next year you lost it.
I got permission for 2 weeks off over Christmas months in advance. Included reminders in my weekly status report. Asked who was backing me up 2 months out... no answer. Day before I was going on vacation, my manager informed me I may not be able to go on vacation. I laughed and told him not to get between me and the door at 4 p.m.He threatened me with my job. I pointed out he had 5 openings for my job title and if he pissed me off, it would be 6.
I went on vacation. I came back and still had a job. The manager was pissed off but oh well.
"Poor planning on your part does NOT equal an emergency on my part."
I always liked that saying
I had a sign that said that hanging in my office for years. Very, very true words.
Bingo. I do the job to support my life, not the other way around. I’ll work my butt off to earn that paycheck, but when they start expecting free labor, I’m out.
Now retired, but last 5 years on my job that saying hung on the wall behind me. I pointed to it at least once a week when asked to do something because a 'higher up' did something wrong/stupid/unnecessary or completely forgotten.
@@Jason-cm6uhI always understood the rationale but still hated the smugness, since most people will still try to chip in when there's a legit work emergency, regardless of the reason. Also the saying only applies to work peers, not one's bosses, unless you want to get fired.
I had a situation where i put in for time off and was denied. I wanted to attend the Sturgis motorcycle rally. I made it clear without ultimatum i was going. I requested the time well in advance. Months in advance.
About a week before the rally, they changed their mind and approved my time off. They said "good news you are going to Sturgis now". My reply "i was always going to Sturgis, but it is nice to know i will have a job when i get back."
Excellent!!
It's amazing they think this is slavery.
For a trip to Sturgis I wouldn't let them stop me either. Hope you had a great time.
I'm taking my son's to a WWE event event next month. They love pro wrestling. I have not told them yet but I would not miss the looks on their faces for anything
@@tylerdurden788 Poggers dude, I hope they have a great time!
A friend of mine was going on holiday to Scotland . We live in England. His boss said he had to leave his company vehicle for the replacement engineer to use . It was pointed out to the manager that the vehicle was for use on holiday and my friend paid income taxes on car . The manager said if you go on holiday and take the car he would sack him. So he went on holiday took the car, 2 weeks later he came back, the manager got him in the office told him he was fired and ask for the car keys . He gave him the keys and left the next day the manager rang him and asked where the car was he couldn't find it in the car park. He told him He'd left it inverness train station and come home on the train. 600 mile round trip to pick it up
That's a funny story
"You said. The keys."
@@ShadowOfCicero this is going back in the days when you had a key for the door and one to start
@@ShadowOfCicero So?
Should've cancelled Scotland and driven to Sicily...
I was turned down for even statutory long weekends, vacations, sick days, etc, not being allowed time off for anything at all (funerals included). When I asked why I couldn't have so much as a day off, I was told I was the only one who would come in on time to open the business in the morning. When I talked to the rest of the staff to see if any of the others would be willing to come in on time once in awhile so I could have some time off (it had been 7 years by then), they all said they weren't willing to leave their homes any earlier in the morning. So yep, I walked off the job too. You can't walk on people forever
Sounds like the business needed to change its operating hours.
Remember kids, employees don't quit bad jobs they quit bad bosses.
.. said nobody who has ever worked at a poultry processing plant.
@@xs10z Or the people who live tested cars in accidents before there were crash test dummies...
@@xs10z they’re probably not here legally so who are they going to complain to?
what a yuppie take
Except where I knew that the newest boss, wouldn’t last very long. Over my career, I had had at least 20 different bosses.
My dad had scheduled a weekend off for a religious event with our family. It was approved, but right before we were to leave his manager at his dealership said he couldn’t have it off. If he did they’d fire him. So he left his meeting with his boss and started packing his office. His manager found out, and came in yelling at him. My dad said you threatened to fire me when I had approved time off, and if I have to disappoint you or my family, it’s not you I’m going with.
The owner found out what my dad’s management did, and called my dad that weekend. They said whenever you get back(not just the four days scheduled) you’ll have your job, and offered him a raise. So he got his vacation, and a raise out of it!
That's because denying him a vacation AND threatening to fire him for taking a legally required vacation is grounds for a lawsuit. The owner was trying to sweep a bad situation under the rug.
It sounds like that ended up as an unpaid vacation.
but did the manager get fired? If no, then the outcome wasn't special it was the owner stopping a lawsuit
I'm surprised a religious person would react so abruptly. The bible, for instance, encourages the fruits of the spirit. A more peaceful person would have tactfully brought the owner into the discussion in the first place, instead of creating a situation where the owner feels legally threatened.
@Broken Robot not religious at all. But, I believe in this message.
Totally different story
About ten years ago I was working a government contract which sent me all over the US and wife was a bartender in a local bar. I learned I was going to be going to Hawaii for 6 weeks, my company was paying for my condo and rental car plus I would be getting about $140 a day per diem. I asked my wife to with me but s he said no, needless to say I was confused and pissed that my wife didn’t want go. One day we were arguing about it over the phone (I was still on the road in North Dakota) her boss (the owner of the bar) heard that we were arguing but what it was about and asked her if everything was ok? She explained the problem and he said “well why don’t you go?) she went off and told him “because I have a job DUHH. I can’t just say, oh by the way I’m going to be gone for the next two months! “. He asked her when I was going and she told him “next Monday”. Then he looked at her and ok “your fired!” “your last day is next Saturday”. She blew up a yelled “You f#%&ing firing me?” He laughed and said “yep, if your dumb enough to turn down a full expense paid trip to Hawaii then I don’t need you here!” ‘Don’t worry your job will be here when you get back.”
She went, we had a blast AND he gave a $500 bonus to spend while she was there.
That boss is a Saint
No offense but your wife is quite the worker and very honest but also very dumb. Glad that it worked in the end.
If this same story happened to a modern couple it would be a gigantic red flag that the wife is disloyal.
@@magicalmonoceros2407 sadly that was what I was thinking at the time, I just couldn’t imagine anybody being that dedicated to a bartending job. Forunatly once her boss told her to go her whole attitude changed.
That’s lovely
The patron saint of "either you can cover me for my time off or you can cover me forever"
Bad bosses have impact on the company. This is just an example of how not treating your employees like humans has consequences. Sorry, not sorry that the selectman has to pony up. And I grew up in a small town so I am well aware of how politics work and how hard the clerks and staff work to keep the town running.
Yeah...ever notice that B O S S, spelled backward is double'S' O B...lol
10 pct of organization do 50? Pct of the work?
Of course, the Bosses always take their vacation - we used to love when certain bosses were gone and hated when our vacations coincided with theirs. It seemed like a waste...
@@bruceanderson7762 the first s is for STUPID. Those that can't do the job are made STUPID-VISORS.
a carload of (very) drunk people leaving the city XMas party kissed semi headon, taking the mayor, super, couple of office worker bees, and one of the only two electric generator plant operators. i checked about 20 years ago, and guess the town never completely recovered. pop in 1965 was 2400, in 2000 it was around 1400 iirc. block after block of nothing but collapsed abandoned houses. very, very few people over age 18 and under 60. it was a ghost town, and just hadn't realized it yet. lord knows, i left first chance i got.
My daughter did pretty much the same thing. 6 months notice of her upcoming wedding. She had notified them of dates needed off. 9 days- Day before the wedding and honeymoon. They put her on the schedule anyway for the day before the wedding. When she told her manager she was supposed to be off he said oops sorry about that but your on the schedule, you need to come in. After reminding him she had put in for the time 6 months prior and had reminded him periodically but he still wouldn't budge. Told her she didn't need the day before the wedding off. So finally she told him she wouldn't be in that day. Or any day after for that matter.
It's a great feeling. My boss told me, the day before my vacation was due to start, that I could not go unless I found stand ins for my duties! I said "OK, I quit" the reply was "You can't do that!" "Sorry, but I have." It felt great!
Yes. It is the bosses responsibility to find a stand in. Even if it means that they have to do it themselves personally.
I love reading all of these stories. In 2015 when I had stage 4 cancer with a 25% chance of living another 5 years, I realized how very low on the totem pole a job is. I realized that my job would never again be ‘priority’ to me. It was quite a revelation. I’m happy these people didn’t have to get cancer to realize it.
I quit one job because time off was denied, and wasn't given a reason other than "we need you here." I waited until two weeks before my desired vacation time, and put in my 2 weeks notice, which was accepted. A few days before my two weeks was up, I was told by my superior's superior that my vacation time was now approved if I wanted to stay. I lied and said I already had another job lined up. Some conversation was had about him wishing I would change my mind, and I cordially declined with something like, "Appreciate the offer, but I shouldn't have to threaten to quit a job in order to use vacation time."
A couple of weeks later I received a call from my former superior's superior. He offered my job back with a pay increase. He also mentioned my former superior had been let go a day or two prior. When I quit, I let several people know why I was quitting. A few of them apparently went to the superior's superior and let him know that it wasn't just me being denied vacation and sick time. I don't know if there were any more factors in that guy getting fired, but there most likely were. I'm just kind of glad my stubbornness was probably the final straw to end his employment. He was a bit of a prick.
Did you take the job back?
Thank you for telling other people there. I have found that to be an excellent tactic in compelling necessary workplace change--- no little "secrets" management can keep protecting. You force their hand
I must be a really crap worker because no one has ever asked me to come back after I quit work, lol.
@@justicedemocrat9357 just depends on the job. If you're doing something that requires way more training, it's a lot harder to replace you.
@@justicedemocrat9357 You must be young and innocent. Your ability to do the job, depending on the company, is not necessarily the top consideration when determining whether or not "we need you here". Politics, jealousy, pettiness, plain incompetence, etc take precedence.
This was how and why I quit my last full time job. I had put in the request 8 MONTHS IN ADVANCE for the days I would need to take a prepaid, nonrefundable full charter rock 'n' roll cruise. I had the time (and more) in my PTO bank so that wasn't an issue Meanwhile, we were taken over by another company that (and I don't say this often) was truly evil in its practices. The first thing they did was cut our already-inadequate pay. One month before the cruise was to sail, my supervisor had only okayed one of the days I requested. I said, "I AM going on that cruise." The last straw was when I was ordered to log on at 7 AM ON MY DAY OFF for software training. I said, no way in you-know-where, my time is MINE. They harumphed and said you won't be allowed to work. My letter of resignation went into the email minutes later. And the cruise was fabulous, of course.
We knew a full year in advance when our eldest daughter’s wedding would be, so my husband put in his request for leave. He had plenty of time on the books and it wouldn’t involve any major holidays. As each month went by, he asked about approval for his leave. When it was down to a couple of months, he was told (by the boss) that he would have to call out sick!! He turned in his early retirement forms.
My story isn't as epic as all that, but I once worked part time for a tiny moving company. I only worked when there were jobs scheduled. I asked if there was anything scheduled for three particular dates and the boss said there were not. I told him that I would be going camping, and it might be best not to schedule anything those dates. Naturally, he scheduled a job for the date my trip was going to start, and waited until the day before to tell me about it. (Did I mention I was the only employee?) I reminded him of the prior conversation about camping, and said no. He was pretty upset and didn't schedule me for any other jobs. He had his grandkid help instead. That worked for awhile, until his grandkid got tired of his BS. Not sure who is helping now.
Don't forget to name n shame these bully businesses. Or else your story is just morning news nonsense.
@@freedustin this right here. The real tip is always in the comments lmao.
"The LOVVVVVVVVVVVVE Boat........."
When I first left the military, I went to work in a state correctional center, as many did. Because I left on a medical discharge, I ended up in juvenile corrections. Turned out to be much worse than adult corrections. For years, they had forced staff to work double shifts if someone called out sick, during high security periods when increased staffing was felt appropriate, or for special events. Time and a half was only paid for more than sixty hours, and overtime could be taken as comp time, but only as straight exchange, not at the 1.5 hour rate you should have been earning. I hated the work environment from the first week, but had a wife and kids, and stayed 18 months until I moved to a much better job.
One of our coworkers retired with nearly forty years service. She had documentation of every time the state had cheated her, and sued. She sued for the back pay they owed, and the suffering she and her children endured by not having the money.when they needed it so badly.
The judge reviewed her handwritten diary, typed summary, copies of every time sheet and pay stub, and copies of the applicable policies from the state's own msnuals and SOPs. My coworker had kept copies of EVERYTHING.
The judge found in her favor and ordered them to pay her backpay at time and a half at her salary at retirement. A senior corrections officer with forty years state service. She also ordered punative damages.
40 year Time-bomb = grand slam on the budget.
RESPECT! Time, patience, thoroughness. She got what what was hers.
That’s awesome justice! Still doesn’t really compensate for not having that time then and paid properly at the time
damn. that's gangsta
@@debbylou5729 🤡
I like when people say everyone is replaceable, and that is quite the contrary. I asked for a raise at my old job as I felt I deserved it. I had taken on a number of duties that required specializations and I managed to fulfill all of those duties. Of course I was denied, so I opened my own business and left. That was 7 years ago and they are still looking for someone to fill my position. They have asked me to return multiple times and won't pay me what I want. They have have now had to split my job into 5 different positions. They're spending a little over 400k to fill these jobs when all I asked for was $5 more per hour 😅 (btw, no they havent been able to fill these positions)
kind of karmic in a sense. My old job had to hire two people to fill my job...
@@anniesshenanigans3815 LOL, wife retired in Feb, so far they have hired 3 to cover what she did.
It just goes to show, and I've seen it over and over again, that the more you take on at work, the more they expect you to do, and the less they respect you.
Amen to that
This! I have seen slackers get the same compensation as people who went beyond the call of duty (usually extra hours without pay). I am not justifying inferior work practices, but It’s important to know your value and set boundaries.
My last job ( I was 61 at the time I left so it really was) I worked at a company part time for about 5 years. I started out doing a great job but as time went on and I never got raises I just did less and less work. In the end all I did was the bank deposit which took about an hour when I was paid for 6. They laid me off so I collected unemployment until Social Security kicked in.
@@GMAMEC I am proud to say I was one of the slackers. I always did a good job but NEVER worked one minute that they weren't paying for. Better than being someone the company takes advantage of. They will if you let them.
@@GMAMEC Honestly, being a good talker is more important than being good at your actual job. That's how you get promotions, raises, etc. Those who work hard are usually treated the worst, and those who talk hard are usually treated the best.
Been there, done that! 20 years shop foreman without a real vacation. 2 months later bought all the equipment from former employer at bankruptcy auction, sold some pieces and made a profit from it. Hired back the other employees with better pay and benefits. Now retired after 20 more years after giving it to them and there still going strong!
You're a man full of character & integrity.
and they are still going strong
@@jyvben1520 COOL!
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Employees should be given a chance to get loans to buy any buisiness that is about to get shipped overseas or is going bankrupt. Co-ops are one of the few ways we might be able to save this country. Good on you &keep spreading the gospel!
I once asked for a vacation day to be a pallbearer. My supervisor denied the vaca time and told me to code my time sheet for that day to office time. He said that being asked was important to the family of the deceased and I received full pay for the day.
If I read it right, that was a cool supervisor!
That's a good boss.
I would press charges on the supervisor if i was the owner.
@@ray095883 Do you also smile whilst drowning kittens?
I know this feeling, I just got out of the hospital last week and I was basically there because I was worked near-to-death for 2 years(no vacation and technically 7 days a week no time off). While I was gone the company was in chaos with my boss calling and messaging me every day asking when I could come back(while in the hospital).
@scott shabalam. I was admitted to hospital with an eye infection that wasn't responding to treatment. I had to have antibiotic gel applied every 15 mins day & night. My boss call all the time with questions about my job. On day 3 he showed up on the ward with my laptop, monitor and other equipment so I could work from my bed! The ward sister threw him out. Unfortunately for him we worked for the health authority this hospital was part of. The sister informed HR that my boss was interfering with my treatment. He was reprimanded and then requested transfer to another department. Thing is we had been asking for time to cross train each other in the office in case something like this happened and he always refused. Said it we wanted we could do it during lunch or after work.
The last salaried job I had ( in the 80's) ended when I went on an approved vacation for a week. And the place (a photo lab) fell into chaos because the owners couldn't operate the place. I received a call WHILE I WAS STILL ON VACATION that I was fired. The unemployment office couldn't believe the audacity of the employer and I received unemployment for several months until I established my own photo studio.
turns out in the end it was meant to be for the better
Fantastic! I love your story, thank you for sharing, very inspiring!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you got the last laugh 👍
that would be illegal today. I think
My brother had something similar happen to him. It all started one day when he was driving to work when he suddenly stopped breathing and was taking to the hospital. They got him breathing again but didn't find the cause. He was released and was fine for a few months when it happened again. Back to the hospital but they didn't find the cause. This kept going on for more than a year. The company finally phoned him and told him he was fired for faking an illness to get out of work. Here's the kicker -> the phone they called him was the one in the hospital room where he was staying after another incident of not breathing (there were other symptoms too, I just don't remember what they were).
Now a note to all diabetics that have never heard or experiencing this happening.... my brothers was diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic at the age of 3. He had been taking an insulin shot every day since then. After 30+ years of taking the shots, this started happening to him. The doctors finally found this out and did something (this happened over 4 years ago) to make it stop happening. If you're having this problem, see a specialist immediately. Apparently it is curable but left untreated it could kill you.
This sounds like a job I had at a hospital several years ago. They kept piling more work on me with absolutely no consideration for the burden it caused. So, I left that job and took another with more money and less workload. Six months later my old supervisor called me. She informed me that they had hired 2.5 people to replace me, but they still couldn't get adequate results. She begged me to come back. I declined. Why do employers not realize when they have a really good worker until it's too late? P. S.: You would not believe how many times in my career a former employer said to me, "Wow, I just didn't realize how valuable you were until you were gone."
Hard to find someone capable of handling things in a competent manner sometimes. Especially if they've been doing that job for several years.
Theres a song about that.
@@nickstone1167 Johnny Paycheck?
Because when this happens they look great to their boss, and get raises and promotions. They won't admit that you are the reason that your team is doing so well. Otherwise they would have to give the raises and promotions to you. Inevitably you leave and things go to shit. It is the way of the business world, unless the CEO comes to see what is really going on with workers.
there are always doofussess for hire but not many compenent people! Alas there is never a shortage of dumb ass bosses!
Early in my career as a Paramedic, we worked 12 hour shifts 3 and 4 day shifts on alternating weeks but we were always hounded to work overtime shifts. Being single and as we were the least paid Paramedics in the county I worked a lot of overtime. When summer came I asked for a couple of days off and was denied by my manager. I asked why, since I always tried to help out the company and worked when asked and was told because I helped the company didn’t obligate the company to help me. It took me a week to find a job in the next county over with better shifts, better pay and better working conditions. When I gave my two week notice. The owner asked why I was leaving, I told him and he offered me a blank check on pay and shifts. I told him he was a month late. If they had treated us better to start with I wouldn’t have been so annoyed at not getting my time off.
Good move, those counteroffer deals only last until the better job isn't hiring any more, then you're stuck again.
My philosophy is that it is not a Time Off request but an advisement.
I agree with your philosophy. Everyone needs a decent break from work for so many reasons. I don't get why employers think their employees are machines to be worked to death. Even machines need service or they break down. A break from work is as important as a service on a machine.
My dad ran a mine and had to deal with code enforcement officers. The problem as he explained is that if they constantly find no violations it looks like they’re not doing their jobs. So they dig and dig and dig and nitpick you to death. He found the solution by rotating minor infractions for them to “find” so they stay out of your hair.
Would have been cool if he could have developed a rapport with them and was able to let them in on what he was doing...for their benefit.
We used to do the same thing. You better have something for them to write up that wasn't serious.
@@nowthatsjustducky They kinda knew after a while.
I was a plumbing contractor and did the same, don't strap a pipe here, no nail guard there, but have the stuff ready to fix it when they find it ;)
same over here in Europe -our IRS is way more civilised than yours, but when you have an audit, they got to bring home some bacon : " where are those tiles, Sir ?" "We found they did not fit in the office bathroom, used them at home, then" (real example)
Hot take... Something I learned way back in the 70's as a long haul driver, if you don't treat your dedicated & loyal employees with loyalty and respect in return then sooner or later you can expect them to quit being loyal to you!
This has become a real problem companies think because they pay you. That you are theirs to do with as they please. I have quit a couple jobs for over stepping boundaries.
I always wonder why so many companies either don't realize who is keeping the business going or how to keep those most valuable to the company for different reasons. Seems to happen everywhere.
Glad I am living in a country where at least many things seen in the US as "perks" for working for a certain company, simply are legal rights every employee has. Like a minimum of 24 days of paid vacation. Besides paid sick leave etc.
@@alexanderkupke920 It's pencil pushers! Office people always put on airs and look down their noses at the workers and have the upstairs convinced that pencil pushers are worth more than the people who actually do the work or make the product that feeds them all! I've seen that my entire life and I've been on every level from LITERAL shit shoveler to Owner of my own business. I always remembered where I cam from and always had a little despise for the office people, seldom are they actually decent for long!
I had a few reasons to quit my freelance job as a customer support agent.
1. I was tired of being told what to do, when they didn't know how they wanted me to do it and kept changing the procedures. It was maddening. No matter what I did, I just could not please them.
2. I was treated like a drone, not a human being who could actually think and had opinions on how my work flowed the best.
3. I still don't understand why you would waste your time translating things, when they're not being published, because they're not proofread. And we were not allowed to proofread ANYTHING before everything else is translated unless we were specifically told to. I proofread shit because I actually needed that shit to do my main job and they got angry with me for that, like wtf? We had huge pieces of text that could take up to 45 minutes to properly translate and more than a thousand smaller texts in spreadsheets. The long ones felt longer when you're trying to work out how the bloody jokes and punchlines are going to work in a different language, or you're stuck with technical terms that makes the text clunky because you literally can't translate them properly and it really screws with the grammar. And sometimes I could almost feel them silently judging me for trying to be thorough.
4. I was told to do as I was told or "I could go somewhere else."
Fine. I left a week and a half later.
The big boss ended up sweating a bit and pleaded with me to stay until they'd trained my successor and I was like: My contract said I had to stay for 1 week after I'd given my official notice. I did not want to stay a day longer than I had to.
My "successor" was their problem to deal with, not mine. I don't know if they ever found one but that is not my problem either. I don't care.
@@oldogre5999 I wouldn´t say all office people are like that, but from administrative secretarys and clerks to engineers, sadly to a very large part you are right. I think some Japanese companies like Toyota actually require all their management and engineering staff to work one or two weeks a year in the factory to keep their bearings. Also, for them it is more natural to select a CEO from staff with technical background (like engineers) than someone with an administration and accounting background as usual here.
I am en engineer myself, but due to the training I had, some internships required for my studies and the job I do today (whole range from doing hardware, installing software, support, maintenance and the engineering stuff), I am well aware of what others and also fellow engineers forget. It may require a few engineers to develop a product (lets take a car as an example), but it takes a whole load of skilled workers to built the thing, ship it, distributie it, maintain it. They don´t get skilled in a week, and to keep them you have to treat them right. And if you go down to less skilled levels, no office or factory would run for long if no one takes care of cleaning and other stuff as well. It is not only about your employes, but any kind of worker. Here in Germany they go as far to keep skilled workers, that they have means to reduce working times (as they had to during the pandemic) and get subsidiies to pay them and keep them, as the state also sees it more effective to pay them to a limited amount over a limited time, as having a lot of people loosing their jobs, which would cause a state insurance to pay them anyways, and the businesses struggle afterwards to find qualified workers again. (Which is a good way to not having to fire a lot of people due to external circumstances for example, which isn´t that easy here anyways, but of course doesn´t tell anything how employees are treated under normal circumstances anyways, although it seems we have a lot different legal limits on what an employer can or cannot do)
How many people, what I have seen in Florida a few times for example, treat those landscaping guys or any kind of lower skill worker, often indeed immigrants, who do hard work 60 hours a week to barely stay afloat, like dirt, because they don´t do a highly qualified job, because they are immigrants, because they don´t make a lot of money.
But hear the same people cry if those guys would tell them to go somewhere and clean up they yards etc. themselves. Hard work those same people are not even willing to do.
I think this behavior and attitude, be it as an employer or be it towards others has two or three main reasons, Ignorance, egoism, and the need to feel a sense of superiority over others.
I had been separated for about 6 months, seeing my kids weekends...my kids knew my weekend was on my birthday and even though that was not my weekend, they wanted to see me so I requested that weekend off. My manager refused and did not care for my reasons..." Your job or your kids. " They were already expecting to come...this guy already denied me a promotion a month prior...this sent me over the edge. I worked up to the day before my kids would show up and I just didn't go. Turned in everything and didn't pick up. Made great memories with my family...got a job offer a week later. Best decision ever. Why do people think forcing a choice between work and family will work? It's never worked with me...there always other jobs.
There are a million jobs. But there's one family.
@@wierdgamer3067 not a job when your a slave
Rather the same story for me friend. When I was told i could not go on vacation, I said to my Manager "You approved the vacation more than 3 months ago. I also notified the dispatcher to not schedule me for work on those days and he said basically the same thing." I copied the entire email chain, added the COO V.P of Operations and said if you force me to chose between my family and my job, I really think you already know my answer. Literally 5 minutes later the COO replied to the email and told me i WAS going on vacation and whatever work was scheduled MUST BE RE-SCHEDULED which is exactly what I told the scheduler and my manager at the time. They just didn't like ME telling them what they should of already done. That same manager came to work for the company I have been with for over 7 years now, and I routinely denied his requests plus added most of the most difficult jobs to him consistently. He quit and came back 3 times. When he quit the 4th time I told him to not bother coming back. We need rock solid people not back stabbing pricks like you.
@@anonimous2451 Well done. Like you say plenty of jobs if you are good and have plenty of experience. Or you can always pull a George Santos.
@@vonakenyon7981 LOL
One year after retiring from my job [transit operator], I went back as a part-time or 'casual' employee. Fulfilled all assignments, including more than the minimum required, for three more years. Requested six weeks' UNPAID leave for an extended family road trip, request denied. Reason given : "we have staff shortages"... Hellooo, now you've got one more. Could have had me as a fully trained, experienced, and reliable employee for 4-5 more years, now you get to spend thousands recruiting and training a replacement who may or may not wish to stay in a PT situation...
I worked for a modular home manufacturing plant. I submitted a vacation request 2 months in advance, without pay. It was denied. I told them i needed this vacation with my family. Denied . Time came, i left on vacation. They held a meeting and told everyone I had quit. True. While on vacation , I received two calls asking me to come back , for more money. Nope ! One of the best vacations i had ever had!
I would have had some choice words for them. Why are companies so stupid? I guess it's greed and corporate non-caring for its employees. The worse thing to be is an Exceptional employee -- then they will REALLY take advantage of you.
I worked for a sheriff’s department when Rita/Katrina hit New Orleans. I requested a leave of absence to go help, it was denied so I requested a month vacation. They denied that request as well so I quit. Spent fours months helping out and was glad I made the decision to quit.
Well, to be fair, working for pigs is a job for fascists anyway, so bad conditions there should have been anticipated.
That happened to me a long time ago. Our store changed managers and the new manager asked me to step up and work to cover while he came up to speed. Finally, after about a year with no vacation, I went to him to ask for a few days off to travel down state with my family for Christmas. He said no, he couldn't do without me for the Xmas season, so I quit. Told him I would come back to work when I returned if he wanted. The day I came back I dressed up for work and walked in to see him. He said I had taken an unauthorized vacation and I was terminated. I said fine and walked out the door and got a much better job by the end of the day.
Hope you collected unemployment from that shithead
Worked at convenience store. After my first year there and NEVER missing a day or being late (maybe once) I went to request off on the office computer. My boss was mad when I asked for help putting in the request. “I don’t know how to do it because I never need a day off!” After that response, my manager smiled and he assisted me.
"You won't let me take my mandatory yearly vacation?"
*Ok, I quit.*
"Oh shit."
As an employer, it is your duty to ensure smooth operation of your business even when employees are absent; this includes vacation, illness, maternity leave, etc. Every position in your company should have a secondary employee (even yourself, if need be) who is capable of covering the basics of said position in the absence of the primary employee; having a "liquid" workforce is essential. Refusing any employee their entitled vacation is a sheer sign of your incompetence as an owner/manager.
I say the same thing about wages. If your business cannot afford to pay your employees a proper living wage, then you have a shitty business plan and you deserve to fail.
The USPS need a few good manager like you
@@mr2010GM Nah, they're a lost cause.
I am Australian and reside in Perth ( Western Australia ) when I was 24 I moved to the other side of the country ( Sydney ) for a job in a bowling center as a tech. I was there approx. 6 months when I was notified that my Grandfather was ill and it was touching and go, so I went to my boss ( Head Tech ) and explained the situation he said I should go home and see my GD in case it was the last time I would see him...He was awesome in every way and put my request for 2 weeks ( unpaid leave ) into management who then said NO. I was disappointed after another conversation with the Head Tech. and on his advice - I quit and returned home to Perth and have never been back to Sydney since ( I am now 51 yrs old ). Richard Branson has the best quote "Train your staff well enough that they can leave, but treat them well enough that they don't want to.."
If there are no other staff able to handle your duties while you are away, that is a failure of management period.
Cross training is the responsibility of management. Having more staff than what is strictly required, in order to accommodate people taking time off (Getting sick, vacation, family emergencies, etc) is the duty of management.
The employee did nothing wrong. Blame the incompetent management and "leadership."
I once served on a zoning board in a small town in Ohio. Our only building inspector, without whom we could not operate, was a twenty hour a week employee. Like the lady in your story, he often performed inspections on unpaid overtime. He approached the mayor one spring and asked for five days off to attend an out-of-town wedding. The mayor promptly turned him down... So he quit.
I have done this. I was interviewed by a private security company for a patrol driver position, in September of that year. The responsibilities included checking on approximately 20 remote sites during an 8-hour shift. I disclosed during interview that I had a two-week, out-of-country vacation planned and paid-for during the last two weeks of December. I was told that would NOT be a problem. I was hired. Flash forward to the second week of December. I had a conversation with my boss where I reminded him of my trip. He said that he could NOT grant me the vacation time. I reminded him of our conversation when he hired me. He said he remembered that conversation and stood his ground not approving the vacation, because he said he couldn't cover the patrol route while I was gone. I told him I understand and told him I quit. It's amazing the leverage you gain when you're willing to quit! I took my vacation and returned to that job when it was finished.
The classic "I will be going on vacation for these dates. It's up to you whether I come back here, or go work for your competitor when I get back." Always makes me grin when someone is in a position to stick to their guns on this sort of thing :D
This is why I always ask for my planned vacation requests to be written into the offer letter that way it is out of your bosses hands and becomes a corporate issue.
@@rhoonah5849 That's brilliant!
@@SavageHungarian Yup. I also did it when I was a hiring manager because I wanted to protect my new hires from schedule deadlines, etc. It's a great idea.
Good for you. You are right if you are willing and able to quit it gives you leverage.
When I worked in retail, I constantly had management denying time off. Medical appointments, surgical appointments, cancer treatments, vacation, family, always denied, citing "lack of coverage". I was given a choice between "your career or your health lies". That place absolutely crushed my self-confidence, but I walked out when it came to cancer. I am not going to die for a scummy minimum wage job.
Then they called the cops on me at 3 in the morning for a "wellness check" every other day or so for about a month, until I notified them any further harassment would be met with swift and brutal legal consequences.
And it's even worse because you were fighting a serious illness!!!
That would be an easy case of misusing police resources
You let them call the cops on you for a month? "One time is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action".
First time seeing your channel! This is a wonderful story! I am so tired of seeing employees being treated like chattel!! Bravo Kirsten! I am so very proud of you!!!
I too was an employee who was taken advantage of. Being a single woman it was hard to walk out. But, over the yrs. more and more was put on my shoulders. At first I was puffed up with pride that I was good at every new task I took on. Job vacancies were exactly that.
Why hire someone, it was running smoothly.
Then something happened, and I was raked over the coals. I listened quietly as I was dressed down, for job duties, that were not in my job description. It was the very strangest thing, but something in my head just “popped”.
I thanked them for their concerns and promptly quit. I got a bankers box and as I was packing my desk, the three of stood around my desk spitting nickels. You can’t leave, we maybe overreacted, no, no no, we didn’t mean to come across so harshly, it could have happened to any of us!!!!!!!
I took my purse and box and walked out after 12 yrs. I survived. But they had to hire three people to do my job. And from what I heard, it was a bloody mess the first two weeks, because things were not done. The big dogs had absolutely NO clue what I truly did.
Now, over 30 yrs later and retired, it was the best thing I ever did in my life. I was such a mouse! How I ever put up with it, makes me ashamed I was so shy and timid.
I feel so sad for that young woman. I had a degree, but was so very very quiet. Applying for jobs for me, was gut wrenchingly terrifying 😪😪😪😪😪😪
Good for you! :)
I did the math ... she was getting $16.87 per hour, not accounting for any time she was working in addition to the 16 hours per week. That seems woefully low considering the seemingly expansive responsibilities.
painfully low. you can make $18-19/hr working part time, low skill phone jobs from home.
Government job generally have lower monetary compensation than the private sector, but the benefits are usually much better.
@@TheGlock30owner its a shame she didnt get the benefit of vacation time. If she was willing to quit over a lack of vacation the job is probably pretty awful on top of the low wage and vacation issue
@Michael Charity Local government jobs are often part of their state's retirement/pension and health insurance programs.
That's barely livable nowadays...
Years ago when my husband was still active duty military and stationed away from the family I requested a week off from the local casino (tribal) as he was deploying to Afghanistan. My request was denied and I was told that the National Guardsman who worked there with us had been told she would deploy several times but never had. They obviously didn't understand the difference between active duty and reserve/national guard, so I quit....the next day my daughter was also denied time off to go see her dad before he deployed so she also quit. I know it left management scrambling to find replacements but if my husband had died in afghanistan rather than just being injured I would have never forgiven myself.
Louise you have to live with yourself and the decisions you make and I would have done exactly the same. My husband was in the British Army and he was told "you WILL be on parade" even though they knew I was sick and couldn't get out of bed to care for our month old son. Yes he went on parade, with our son in his pram. I bet he looked really cute lined up with his buddies complete with a baby in a pram. They sent him home.
@@beccabbea2511 Well done on him!! That takes a whole different brand of courage.
"Doing work for free devalues the concept of work for everyone."
It's a hard pill to swallow, but doing unpaid work -- or work that's outside/above of your expected job role -- is doing a severe disservice. You're cheating yourself of money you should be getting paid, and you're normalizing the expectation of free labor from others.
It's not conscientious working extra for free -- it's shameful. Those people make it worse for everyone else.
As a part-time gigging guitarist, I refuse to attend 'open-mic' nights, because they're just a way for venues to provide entertainment without paying the musicians, and as you rightly say, this devalues the concept of work.
Yep, people don't value what they don't pay for. It's a hard truth way too many people miss.
@@ParaBellum2024 'Open mic' nights provide valuable experience for novice musicians/singers so they are getting something out of it.
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 Nonsense. It's work, for which they should be paid.
@@ParaBellum2024 More than likely they suck, so free is good enough for them.
The place I used to work at, expected you to do your job in a certain amount of hours. Unfortunately, there were a million things that had to get done, so I did what that clerk did, and worked on my free time to finish all those jobs. My dad kept telling me a corporation is not a human being, it doesn’t care that you’re loyal. I should’ve quit sooner. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Over the years, several times I have seen dedicated workers being taken for granted and belittled. However, when they left or were forced to take early retirement, they had to be replaced by 2 people to do the same amount of work.
Lol! Just like the Postal Service. I worked for them pricks for 31 years. They make you feel like your requesting a million dollar advance. When they offered me an early retirement, I already had my years in and I jumped at the opportunity. Working 6 days a week 90% of your career definitely takes a toll on you. Six months later they were clamoring for me to help them during the Christmas holidays. My response: " Go Fuck Yourself "
Happened to me more than once. Was treated like I was lower than whale crap when I was working for them but when I left it was like OMG now what are we gonna do. One place in particular had to hire 2 people to replace me, paid them both more than I was getting and ended up losing their biggest customer which was 30% of their business because everything was so screwed up. So I guess they really showed me…
As my late mother used to say, you know what’s worse than me? No me…
Par for the course in the military. The hard workers don't get the recognition, and get passed over for promotion, so they decide not to reenlist. But the idiot that was making the decisions and took the worker for granted, gets promoted.
I was one such for 5 years. the 2 hired to take on my duties were each paid twice what i had been receiving. zero shame for giving them 4 hours notice.
@@aevangel1 can’t promote the hard worker, nothing will get done.
I worked in a job, 6 days a week for 2 years, including all holidays. I was paid a good amount by the hour so no complaints there. I told the owner I needed 2 weeks break, camping trip to refresh. The owner said if I missed one day to never come back so I took a 3 week break and on my return found out the owner had collapsed and gone to hospital trying to cover my position.
Karma
Something similar happened when my dad retired after over 40 years working for the local court house. The people in charge never learnt to do certain things because they were hired for political and cultural reasons rather than qualifications. My father has a law degree which wasn't required for the job but helped greatly and he was very heavily involved in the process of scheduling, bail and warrants. Suddenly when dad left and all of a sudden the whole system came crashing down because no one knew what to do or missed sending notifications of court dates etc. They couldn't even use the remote witness video system (he couldn't either) because he use to call me when that wasn't working. It's hilarious to me that an office of about 12 people and a courthouse with about 50 people didn't know how to do the important stuff and only realised that when the one guy who had been there since the place was built retired.
Price's law states the square root of the # of employee's do 50% of the work. In your example 3 to 4 people did most of the work.
The next 20 years are gonna be wild as all the actually working employees die or retire and you have a wave of elderly systems and no one with the knowledge to run it.
@@NEPAAlchey pretty much. Most workplaces I've been in have about 20% of staff with skills, experience and problem solving skills to work through problems. The rest are bobble heads and diversity hires who have no idea how they got the job let alone how to do the job.
Happy retirement for your dad. A friend of mine retired and her replacement kept calling her for how to do the job up to 6 months later. She finally told her no more calls, learn to do your job.
I worked as a performance analyst as a specialist with a very expensive toolset and was denied days off requests and just bad treatment all around. I was in charge of running a team at a major European institution. When my contract was coming up for renewal I convinced members of the team that they should look for other contracts. They bailed and left and suddenly the organisation had deadlines and millions riding on it. So I would not sign without double the rate. It worked and I worked another 6 months there and bought a lexus with the money. Was a real win and I remember it to this day.
A former employer of mine tried to force me to come to work on a day I had requested off, almost 2 years in advance. My first week working for this company, around October of 2015, I put in to have August 21st, 2017, off work. They approved it immediately. That date, was the date of the solar eclipse that went across the entire US and it fell on a Monday. The Friday before, my bosses boss approached me and asked if I'd be willing to reschedule my day off for another time. I said, "Sure, if can you modify the alignment of the Earth, moon and Sun so I can see a total solar eclipse." See, my boss didn't know how to run the department I was in at a manufacturing company. I basically ran the department but my boss licked a lot of assholes to be the one in charge. I still took my day off but at 6 AM, the morning I was off, my phone started ringing. Other guys I work with, asking me what specific drill bit to use for certain things, etc. They called so much, I called the office and asked if I was going to get paid for taking work phone calls all day. I was told no, so I told them that I was shutting my phone off. When I came in the next day, the department hadn't finished a single product. About 3 months after I left that place, they shut down the entire department because no one knew how to do everything. They refused to pay me what I deserved.
Today, I work an easier job, making a lot more money.
You can put in leave too far in advance, and they can forget what days you had requested off. In 2 years your boss could have changed or the HR person.
@@richardpowell1425 Neither changed and I didn't ever bring up that I had a day off coming up. My bosses boss knew found out elsewhere and approached me about changing it.
I bet they didn’t respect the fact you wanted to “stare a some BS in the sky”…
Good for you! Too many folk fold and let employers get away with BS like that!
@@ronalddregan9431 Actually, where the company is located, wasn't in the path if the total eclipse but all of the employees did go outside to watch the partial eclipse for that area. Everyone was pretty jealous when I showed them the video I took of totality.
I once had a Director of Nurses who told me that I had to choose between staying at the bedside of my wife who was in the Intensive Cardiac Care Unit, and coming into work or lose my job. I told her that I could always find another job, even if it was flipping burgers at a fast food joint, but I only had 1 of my wife. Told her that I would clean out my locker and punch out, and not look back.
Guess she was not expecting my reaction, as other nurses always gave in to her. (She refused to give one nurse the day off to attend her only sons' wedding! - The nurse worked that day and went to the reception after work.) She backpedaled, and changed her statement to "the next time it happens, you will be fired."
I quit about 3 months later, after finding another nursing position closer to home with better pay and working conditions.
Wow, that's just evil. Good on you for doing the right thing. I hope your wife is doing well now
@@NikoBellaKhouf2 - That was in 1992 - my wife is still alive and I retired from my nursing career in 2013, after working for 47 years as a nurse.
@@retiredyeti5555 very nice, happy retirement 🙂
Nursing field seems like the worse field to try that stuff. I mean they will literally hire anyone with a pulse if they show up so they know if things don't pan out with them you could have applied to a billion other places and started working the next day.
@@volkswagenginetta - Had nurses aides and nurses walk off the job - that is called desertion of the patients, deriliction of duty. They got reported to the state licensing board, and were unable to get work again , because of their stupidity. They literally blackballed themselves from their profession. Nurses get their license or registration pulled by the state, and aides get their certification pulled. Your statement doesn't hold water, at least not back when I was working as a nurse. I retired 11 years ago, so maybe things have changed, but I have my doubts.
Thats what happens when you treat your important employees like shit
No. This is what happens when employees have no rights. An employer shouldn’t be empowered to treat people like this
I did this one time! About 8 months later, the owner of the business called me a basically begged me to come back. He paid for my relocation, a pay raise from what I was making before and I kept my time with the company and I got another week of vacation time! I went back and was promoted to manager of the second location! It worked out rather well for me. I'm very grateful that my mother raised me and installed a great work ethic! God rest her soul!🙏
16 hours and they couldn't give her a 2 week vacation? Pfffft.
It sounds like she was working a damn near full time schedule, but they were steadfast that she was 'part time' and that was the best they could do. There are lots of people who think they can operate like that, and it's always a treat to see them force feed themselves their own hats.
Right
Its the always fun pairing of 'Remember, anyone can be replaced' and 'No vaction for u, we cant replace you.' Lot of Bosses use both phrases, and dont even see the irony
Years ago I worked for a company that laid off a bunch of people saying they had "cut the fat". Shortly thereafter, they canceled vacation requests for the Summer months due to staffing issues. I sent my boss an email stating that I would not be in the office from July 1st to July 15th, and if that was a problem then he could consider this email my resignation. I was allowed to take my vacation. :D
This is what happens when any organization grows too reliant on any single pack-mule employee and too complacent to do anything about it. "Eh, she's got it. She's a trooper. She'll make it work somehow. She'll get it done. She always has up until now. No reason to think anything's ever gonna change." Even though literally everything changes.
You're so right. I used to work for a company that would not let people move from group to group internally because they were "too valuable" in their current position. So what happened? People quit. It always boggled my mind that I was too valuable to move 10 cubicles over the wall where I was available to consult on my previous job but not valuable enough to keep me in the company from quitting. When I turned in my notice, I had several managers come to me telling me how they tried repeatedly to get my in their group and had that happened, I would have stayed since I was bored doing what I was doing. After I left, a colleague reached out to me saying how there was some software that I wrote that they now referred to as "third rail code" because no one understood it and if you touched it, you died. Oh well.
No, that is what happens when you got freeloaders getting paid more than the people actually doing the work they get to sleep or do whatever they want while others work
It always warms my heart a little when an over-managed, understaffed company finally comes to a realization who keeps the company running. Shame an entire community has to suffer for that, though. I hope lessons were learned, but experience tells me otherwise.
Similar story for myself. However it has a different twist. I was technical support and the first PC installer for a financial company. This happened in the mid-80s. The Financial company decided to outsource their technical department. I was salaried, so there was no overtime to be paid. However I love my job and worked hard. I saved the company 2 million in my first couple of years over device procurement. The computer department managers were scared of me because I had access to everything. This was provided to me by one of the CEOs because I had saved a very important meeting because of a technical glitch that no one else had an idea on how to solve. I was the first to be outsourced and escorted out of the building. The outsourcing company sent 5 employees to do my job. I got another job almost immediately and realized I was totally being underpaid as my new salary was twice the amount. Two weeks had followed and my old manager had let me know that they had 10 people doing my job, and they still could not keep up. A month after they let me go, they offered me my job back as the outsourcing company said it was impossible for them the have less than 15 to do that job. It was not cost effective for the company to pay 15 salaries for the job I did. I did not refuse but asked for double from what the current company was paying me(4x my old salary). They had actually agreed, but I decided to stay with the current company. It was nice that I only had to work 7.5 hours a day, and not have to work myself to the bone.
Companies, take care of your employees, and they will take care of you! The hardworking ones are not there for the money, we are there to do our work as it is personal to us. However when we find out we were being used, with it being personal we take it to heart!
Pareto's rule: team 100×100, but 100 do 50% of the job
In hawaii also abroad. In2010 i took a job in rural nevada at a small car repair shop. Far from a perfect individual always i try looking at things from others view. to date ive worked for this place off and om for over 10 years.being fired & hired back on a whim.been let go for everything from "dishonesty" to being too popular to making correct change.the latest was for damaging a customers vehicle on my day off.rehired 7mos later with payroll deductions to coversaid customers ins deduction.needless to say it has been a roller coaster ride.upshot is; have recently suffered a stroke and am not able to work any longer. Am 61 yrs old. Broke/homeless. only good is gave up the notion of a gold watch devafes ago. top that!
Prolly never heard one like this; Ive been a mechani for40 years. Mostly heavy equipment in the field both at home(
@@curtiswilliams4079 it's never too late to stand up for yourself
I know what you mean, I loved my job but when I could not get the time off because they wanted me to handle the month end reports while I was on holiday mind you I quit I was going over seas so no deal they did offer me my job back but I had already taken on a new and better job when I got back from the States😹😳
Had a friend, a machinist, who would tell his employer [ he had many ] that come the summertime he takes Fridays off to kayak. He would just laugh when they didn't believe him and some would fire him. Because the shortage of expert machinists is a thing he always had a job and every nice Friday in the summer he would stop by my shop with a kayak on his roof.
Yep, I know a machinist in a very similar situation, and I took inspiration from him in my own life. I have a “day job” but also run my own little auto shop from my home garage. I only take the more difficult electrical & drivability problems that other local shops & dealers haven’t been able to figure out, and it keeps me quite busy!
But nowadays I always tell my clients: I work at my own speed, when I have time, so I will not tell you when your vehicle will be ready. Others have failed to repair it in the past, that’s why you brought it to me. If I have the car for two weeks, I have it for two weeks. If this doesn’t work for you, that’s fine, just take it elsewhere.
@@97marqedman As long as you charge enough for a good retirement. Me I'm retired and did way to much for too little. There are many who need competent honest mechanics, some say I was being taken advantage of.
@biblereader It all depends on who's going against or oversold their commitment.
@biblereader exactly why I quit my union. When I got hired I was told was was told that I could not ever be late or take unapproved time off. Well, I took some unapproved time off (had vacation days) and the next day after I was supposed to return to work I was told to stay home because my foreman (I’m a foreman too I was just on someone else’s job) was mad I took a day off. So that Monday when I was supposed to return to work I text him and my boss one min before I was supposed to be there and said I quit. He goes into this big thing about how I’m gonna ruin my life and how no one else is gonna hire me if I can show up. Little did he know the day he told me to stay home I had an interview and already had another job lined up with better benefits. Then I kept all their tools and said fuck em.
@@97marqedman And I'd make damn sure I would take it elsewhere and I would also let everybody know that your number one concern is not their vehicle or them but YOU and that giant ego that has filled that giant fat head you have! It won't take too long for your customers to tire of your arrogance and just go a little further out of their way to the next town over with a good mechanic...
Similar story, when I was 20. I worked of a national (maybe regional) chain of auto repair shops, so I won't mention Manny, Moe, And Jack's shop name. I'd been working there for just under a year while I worked my way through tech school. A holiday weekend was coming up and I had just started dating the women that would go on to become my wife, so I requested one extra day off, along with the three day holiday weekend so we could travel. I requested the time off a month ahead, manager said it wouldn't be a problem because no one else had even requested the weekend (we kept a skeleton crew there even on holiday weekends, and only closed for the actual day of the holiday). Two weeks before the holiday I double checked to make sure there still wasn't a problem, all was great so I go ahead and make plans, book a hotel, etc. The Thursday before I was to go on vacation, one hour before my shift was over, the manager came to me and said I would have to work the entire weekend because all but one of the other mechanics had requested the weekend off earlier that week, and they all had seniority so my request was bumped regardless of when I put it in. I told him not to expect to see me because I didn't play that game. Sure enough, he called my room mates 3 times a day the whole weekend, wanting to know where I was, threatening to fire me if I didn't get to work. One of my room mate told him, "I'm pretty sure he quit, but you can take that up with him when he gets back on Tuesday."
Now it's Tuesday, I head into the shop, all of my uniforms in hand. Walk into the shop, hang them on the rack and walk back out. The manager called my house every day for two weeks trying to get me to come back. After talking to one of the guys that still worked there, I found out that the manager had thrown a party at his lake house, and invited all the "senior" mechanics. The other mechanic that was to work the weekend with me had also been slated to be off that weekend and vacation was canceled at the last minute. He also didn't return, but it was because he went back to his home state where he was promptly arrested and sentenced to a year in jail. The store manager had to call the shop manager in to work the weekend, and when he found out where everyone was, demanded that EVERY mechanic report for duty for the entire weekend.
Yeah, like I was really going to go back to that environment after that!
Only reason not to mention them is if you still working there they cannot sue you unless your stupid enough to use your real name as your internet user name.
@@basillah7650 If you don't know who Manny, Moe, and Jack are, you wouldn't recognize the shop if I did spell out the name, lol.
Organizations these days are learning the hard way that PTO is not a request. PTO is notice to prepare the others for your absence.
I've told a boss I was taking some vacation and was told, to my face, "you can't take a vacation in your first year" and quit on the spot. That sheer arrogance still amazes me.
Were you informed of that when you took the job? Sadly, that is not an uncommon practice by some smaller companies.
That is pretty common, unless you tell them in advance, when hired
It won’t be paid of course.
Many will require you to accrue the time before the vacation but some, if you have value, will approve it as comp time or will just give you the go ahead.
Man, that sucks. In my country that's not a problem at all as long as it's shared well in advance and you've at least gotten the hang of the job, I think. Of course if there's some personal emergency, can't really do much about that.
When I was still going to school back in the day I worked evenings at a gas station. The manager told us "no one gets vacation during the holidays " and I thought fair enough. The week before Christmas she stops coming to work because she decided to take vacation. She told her supervisor, but none of the other store employees. A few of us were pissed. Come Christmas eve, only one girl showed up for her shift. The store couldn't legally stay open because local law said you needed two clerks in the store. I got fired and immediately hit them for unemployment. They tried to fight it, but in the end I was still able to collect. One of the best Christmases ever.
Well she shouldn't get it either
Good that you got some compensation
Not only did this employee go above and beyond for her job it sounds like she worked more hours than she was paid for- that’s illegal. I hope this employee gets hired by a company that appreciates her and pays her appropriately. Thanks for sharing with us.
Most likely she is retired. And cannot legally work over a certain amount of hours! My uncle is in a similar position. SSI says he can work 20 hrs that's all. His boss will absolutely fire him if he doesn't complete something. So work 30 hrs for 20 or get fired. In your opinion who is breaking the law????
@@amandak.4246 Exempt salaried employees must be paid a minimum of $684 per week, regardless of how much or little they work. That's about $35,500 per year, so she's not close to qualifying under the FLSA. I saw she worked 68 hours per month average, which indicates she was making in the ballpark of $16 per hour, and suggests she was not working 40 hours in any single week, so she wouldn't get any time and a half, despite being non-exempt.
She's likely being paid a legal wage, even if it's insufficient to make it a fair market wage.
@@mike-sk2li look for a different position, and report that boss to the SS department, who should be able to direct him how to proceed.
Alternately, the Milton solution.
It's not illegal for her to do work on her own time by her own choosing, so long as she isn't required to do it and her employer doesn't know. If the employer knows she's working "off the clock," then that *might* be a different matter. But if they pay her for 16 hours/week and, to the best of their knowledge, that's all she's working, then if she's working more, that's her choice.
@@amandak.4246 : years ago, I was going to be placed into an assistant nurse manager position BUT they wanted me to agree to it per a salary. NO‼️was my answer to the salary job. Well, they changed it to hourly rates........ I knew that I would be working many many hours! Considering that there was a 3 month period where I did double 8 hour shifts (8 hrs. OB-GYN & 8 hrs. L&D) and still had to take home a lot of paperwork to do (evals, hiring applications, schedules for 3 departments, etc) on my rare days off, taking a salary would have had me working for way less than minimum wages. I worked so many hours that taxes took a huge chunk of that pay. I had staff nurses bringing home more actual pay because the taxes.
This reminds me of the aerospace company I work for in the late 70' and early 80's. I worked my arse of trying to get everything done I had to do as an expeditor. While I was working 80-hour weeks to get the project I was working on kept up to date I was told that I couldn't work anymore overtime since the other expeditor wanted some overtime too. I told my supervisor if that was the case then he could take over the project then, that I was not going to be responsible for lackadaisical work done by him that he had troubles doing the work he had.
When my next annual review came up, I was told I would not get a raise since I made too much already. I said fine and went active-duty Army from the reserves that I was already serving in. A couple of months later I found out that my supervisor had to hire two and was looking for a third to replace me since they could not keep up with the work load I carried. That was 1987 and I have laughed about it ever since.
I’ve seen this before especially during the pandemic. I knew a young lady that was working 7 days a wk, sometimes as much as 16 hr days for the wages of one job. It was doing pandemic/Covid related things in a very small rural town. Everyone kept saying it ‘wouldn’t be forever’, but it went n for a yr and a half. Local citizens were scolding her and belittling her for ‘not doing her job’ if she took a few hrs off or didn’t answer phone calls at all hrs of the night. After so long of working these hrs in the first place let alone not being compensated for it or feeling appreciated, she did what any sane person would do. She quit. Not having anyone to cover isn’t a valid excuse to not give time off. Hire a per diem fill-in person that is capable of roving between several positions if necessary.
And in those small towns they call you after hours for dumb things. A noisy car, the streetlight is out, my kids hate the school lunch....
Note how the town Steve is talking about can't find someone to keep records, license pets, register cars(usually a state function),animal control, do the code assesssor's job, inspect buildings and act as state liaison. But they *sure* as h___ can find someone to collect tax payments.
@@sadjaxx My old High School had a study period they called PLT (something like Personal Learning Time.) Some parent(s) called in and complained about some portion of the name's meaning and got it changed to MAPS (Mentoring And Personal Study or something along those lines) either a year or two after the school opened.
none of the kids that were there for the first couple years called it that, though. don't know how it's going now.
My favorite is when an employer “requires” two weeks notice but does not pay two weeks when firing someone as well as fighting unemployment. I just say “you’re fired” to the employer
Absolutely. Unbalanced expectations. Since you can be fired when they feel like it, quit when you feel like it as well.
Nobody can “require” two weeks notice. It’s just customary. It’s not like they can keep you from quitting.
Although not giving two weeks can hurt you when it comes to references. I’ve had a number of ex employees bitch at me for costing them a job when they had them call me for a reference.
Usually two weeks is a courtesy that some employees will give their employer. As a practical matter, you really can’t force someone to work who doesn’t want to, nor would you want to try.
@@ronnie3044 Can you imagine? You tell the boss you quit and he/she says "no!" Then rounds up the other employees to block the doors so you can't leave LOL.
@@ronnie3044 I'm involved in the hiring process and I no longer consider an employee quitting on the spot disqualifying. I simply look at what the employer they left does when the layoff employees. If that employer does not offer severance, then their employees have no obligation to give notice. Companies deserve what they dish out.
You definitely see this in the hiring process. For some time now, HR departments have decided the way to deal with candidates is to ghost the candidate if they're not selected for interview or if they're not selected as the hire. I don't know why that's been decided, but it is definitely the norm. No it is not uncommon to have people just not show up for an interview. It is also not uncommon to have people not show up on their first day when offered a job. Sometimes when contacted they'll tell you they took another job, but often they'll just ghost and ignore contact attempts.
It's a employee's market right now. Perhaps companies should consider knocking off some of the BS they've adapted over the years and treat candidates and employees decent? The ones that do will be the ones that can get employees in this market.
We nurses work far too much and I personally work a job for 5 years without time off, each year I had to sell back my time off hours because we could only roll over 30 days of time off, I finally went to the CEO and told him I was taking 6 weeks off whether he like it or not, they hired a temporary travel nurse to cover my position. We really should not have to resort to this sort of thing but there you are.
Something similar happened where I worked, here in the Netherlands. A 58 year old college got a bad annual evaluation. He said if you don't need me I'm taking up my pension now. They told him he could not do that because he had to notify the company half a year in advance. His reply, "In that case I notify the company that I wil retire next year. Until than I will take the 250 vacation days I have saved. Goodbye"
I had a boss that scheduled me way too many hours (often 40+h) knowing that I was a high school student and that id often stay late to finish her ever expanding list of tasks unpaid. When I realized i was really struggling at school I tried giving my two weeks and instead let her talk me into staying in return for a reduced schedule that would give me time to actually do homework. Two days later I find out I'm scheduled for another full week and tell my co-worker to pass on the message I won't be showing up for any of those shifts. I liked that job, but have no regrets quitting.
You should have regrets about having worked for a single second unpaid.
A high school student should not have been working a 40 hour week anyway. Its illegal.
There are laws abt how long teens can work. You had grounds for a lawsuit
@@sadjaxx Only when school is in session. During summer breaks they can work as much as they want.
@@sadjaxx I think combined school and work cannot go over 40 hours a week.
As soon as I saw this I knew it was gonna be good. This sounds like front-page reddit fodder!
Also protip: If you can't make do with an employee being gone for a few days, then you REALLY can't handle when they are gone for good.
There goes all of the institutional knowledge.
That’s known as having a “bus number” of 1. And when you have that for everything that is done, the more people you have, the quicker the inevitable doom.
I worked for a restaurant for over three years without a day off. That's 1131 consecutive days. I repeatedly for almost a year begged for one day off and was repeatedly told they can't run the restaurant without me being there every day. So fed up I told them I am taking not one but two days off and they said if I do I don't have a job and I said "so be it." I gave them three weeks notice of the two days I was taking off and they threatened me with termination right up until the day I didn't show up. They called me at home multiple times demanding I return to work and continuously threatening me with termination. I shut off my phone. The next day they were knocking on my door and I handed them my notice of self termination and simply informed them I no longer worked for them. Best move I ever made. On the third day my former boss came by my place yet again and begged me to come back to work and offered me a raise and I told him only if I get two days off every week and a paid vacation every year and I get Christmas, Thanksgiving and 4th of July off. He agreed to everything.