Was shown a wheel building tip from a friend. Get the frequency analyser app for your phone. In a quiet workshop give the spokes a tap. This helps get the tension even. The higher the frequency the higher the tension and vice versa. The idea is to get even tension on the spokes. Having a high tension spike with a lower tension on either side is unequal loading and that’s how they fail? Better to have them all share the load equally.
G'day Paul, I think that there is an Avon Roadrunner in my shed, but I think that it's been there for 30 years... Thanks for another great video. I do have a couple of motorcycle wheelwright stories for you. A friend of mine built a wheel for a dirt bike once, but couldn't get the last 0.010" out of round, or 0.020" side-to-side out of the rim. He decided to call the rim supplier, to see about exchaning the rim, but they said; "We get them within 1/4" either way, and we're happy." Also, I watched a Honda race mechanic fix a damaged wheel on a CR-M250, when I was a scrutineer on the Australian Safari once. He had all the parts on a bedsheet, in the middle of the Northern Territory - 2 rims, 2 sets of spokes, 2 sets of nipples, and the bike on a stand. It must have been 9pm when I first saw it all. When I walked past him, and hour later, a good wheel was assembled, and he was spinning it against a screwdriver, that he was holding on the fork tube. It was all up & going for the rider in the morning. Those guys were great! I know that they changed a crank overnight in the event. When I gave the bike the afternoon check, it was clacking & banging. When is stalled, the rider couldn't kick it over to start it. The next morning, the bike was back again, and the rider was going WFO!!! Finally, not a story, but a hands-up question. Is the front guard on the bike straight? It looked like it's higher on the near-side of the bike. Anyhow, thanks for another great video. I'll look for the next episode next week. Andrew BTW, now that I've written this comment, and remembered the Aust Safari, I realise that the Roadrunner I have is at least 40 years old... LOL
13 hours after your video was available I get to watch your bespoke work and your wish for 80k subscribers has been reached ! Well done and well deserved oh master of metal . I expect you have laced a few wheels in your work , but I think I probably will never even try . One job for the expert , imagine a wheel breaking up under you at speed !
Another greed video Paul. A quick way to check the dish is to just turn the wheel around in the jig. (The right side of the wheel in the right side of the jig to the left side the jig.) Measure the distance before turning the wheel around and then measure after. Will show whether it is centered without installing on the motorcycle. Easer to center it if it needs to be adjusted.
I once built a set of wheels for my mountain bike using purchased components. It was an incredible feeling of accomplishment and satisfaction. Great work on the wheel! It's awesome!
Another great video Paul and Mitch! I have built a few bike and motorbike wheels but never considered myself an expert. I have a pal who builds bike wheels professionally and he even goes as far as aligning the trade mark on the hub barrel with the valve hole when he laces up. By the way in the UK I believe the depression in the rim well is called a 'dimple'. Keep up the good work!
I use the same set-up but with a dial-gauge and a nylon tip. Goes faster for me with the +or- thousands of an inch marked on the rim with a sharpie. Great job Paul.
Nice work personally when I laced a wheel I like to confirm that it is true by checking the gap inside the rim where the tire actually will be in contact with the rim. I find sometime that rim could be a little off outside and right on inside especially with used one. René from Québec
I've never heard anything good about the Chinese Mikunis, but good luck. I recommend OKO carbs, which have worked great for me. OKO-USA is run by Roger Annable, super guy with great service. It's a square slide carb.
I like to use a dial indicator on truing the wheels. Spin it around once and set zero to the middle, then you can adjust each spoke for left and right to centre. Whatever you are comfortable with, just an option. Takes me forever though.
Hi Paul, I always thought, that a carburetor has to be mounted horizontal, because the gas inside the float bowl only acts on the float right, when everything is level ?
Been here from the start. Your numbers are looking good. Avon Road Runner 2 were my go to tyres. I didn't trust anything else. Looking forward to hearing it.
Hey Paul, As I recall, several years ago, I mentioned a custom car fab guy in Nova Scotia, "Bad Chad" (on TH-cam). He practices a welding technique that might be of interest... He makes about 4 overlapping tacks, then blows the weld zone with cold compressed air, then moves about 4 or 5 inches along and repeats. This minimizes heat-warping, especially when he is butt welding panels together. If you were to scale back this technique on the intake manifold, like maybe 3 or four overlapping tacks; cool air; move 90 degrees around; repeat; etc., and work your way around the flange, it might help. Just an idea to play with if you feel like it :-) NOTE: I watched that part again, and I think that maybe this is what you were describing: working your way around the flange-to-tubing weld... And very nice job on truing the wheel "dish"!
Paul’s welding makes bad Chad look like an amateur…Paul doesn’t mig…Chad doesn’t have a clue hot to tig or silver solder. Don’t mean to be insulting but Chad doesn't have a clue how an engine runs, electrical, how to use a lathe or mill…he is having fun though.
Lovely bike, Paul! Pops Yoshimura had the opinion that Keihins were for 4-strokes, while Mikunis were for 2-strokes! I found the Keihin FCRs to be very tunable and accurate myself...
I have built many wheels..stainless spokes on stainless nipples…Buchanan’s stuff…they sell nice spoke wrenches in decimal inch size…I have used am26 on all my BMW’s . I use a straight edge to measure the dish but you have to have a number to do that..
There's an advantage to steel manifold as it doesn't transfer heat from engine. Have you ever tried an air cooled Beetle carb (Solex) Being downdraft , manifold k mounting surface could be machined flat, spacer added and not have an 'updraft' manifold (mixture wouldn't have to turn 180 degrees to get into cylinder) Rims are Dimpled. Trimming spokes in deep dimple alloy rims is a PITA, on steel rims angle grinder can be used, spoke heads are always above or just flush with rim. Truing wheel with an MX rim on street hub is one of the few video's I've ever posted on You Tube. Spent ages trying to true out the weld area on rim before taking a real good look as to why I couldn't get better than 0.010" run out I used an old rusty swing arm off a CB400A with angle iron welded across it. Ugly, but works.
Oh, I'm subscribed. Would it help if I unsubscribed and immediately resubscribed? I used to always, throughout a wheel build tap the spokes in the vicinity of an adjustment to hear if it's possible to even out the tension of the wheel and make it straighter in fewer steps. You can find those loose spokes that are the main issue straight away. We had some bigger spoke wrenches though that would really make them ring. And YES. the half inch belt sander is a must have. The spoke wrenches that I used were about a quarter inch thick, seven inches long and precisely machined on the gripping surfaces. I think there were four double ended wrenches that covered all of the spokes and nipples that I dealt with. Making a set of those could be a good build series.
The wheel looks fantastic. Keep up the nice work Paul. Do you put anything on the the spoke threads? We used to use teflon or graphite dry lube on the bicycles to stop the stainless galling.
Subscribed here lol Have been for over couple years Paul I appreciate your content ! I have a Harley 350 aermacchi I need a piston and rings to built the engine any ideas where I can get some parts I need head gaskets too I want to build a full faring race bike I’m not worried about weight …I just want a street bike that looks like a racer Thanks
Been subbed for a bit now, if I could do it again I would hopefully this comment will help with the algorithm and get this out there so we can get you those 63+ subs you need for 80k before Christmas Paul. 👍👍
(Hand up) Do motorcycle wheel builders not use a spoke tension gauge like a cycle wheel builder would? ...i would have thought correct tension according to different spoke guage would be even more important than on a bicycle? Genuine question/not trolling! 😂
That front wheel assembly is just eye candy! Love it!
Well done on the 80k subscriber milestone. Means that millions are still missing out on superb content.......
Having patience is one thing, having skill is quite another but having both is being Paul Brodie!
Well said. !!
Was shown a wheel building tip from a friend. Get the frequency analyser app for your phone. In a quiet workshop give the spokes a tap. This helps get the tension even. The higher the frequency the higher the tension and vice versa. The idea is to get even tension on the spokes. Having a high tension spike with a lower tension on either side is unequal loading and that’s how they fail? Better to have them all share the load equally.
Spoke torque wrench is also very useful
The "Spoke Bulge" is called the DIMPLE? correct?
Good show, guys! Thanks for inviting us into the shop.
Congratulations on the 80k subscribers! Well deserved, Paul & Mitch...
Keeping a passion into seniorhood is a gift!
That takes talent and the patience of Job to lace a wheel accurately. Thanks for the video. 👍
G'day Paul,
I think that there is an Avon Roadrunner in my shed, but I think that it's been there for 30 years...
Thanks for another great video. I do have a couple of motorcycle wheelwright stories for you.
A friend of mine built a wheel for a dirt bike once, but couldn't get the last 0.010" out of round, or 0.020" side-to-side out of the rim. He decided to call the rim supplier, to see about exchaning the rim, but they said; "We get them within 1/4" either way, and we're happy."
Also, I watched a Honda race mechanic fix a damaged wheel on a CR-M250, when I was a scrutineer on the Australian Safari once. He had all the parts on a bedsheet, in the middle of the Northern Territory - 2 rims, 2 sets of spokes, 2 sets of nipples, and the bike on a stand. It must have been 9pm when I first saw it all. When I walked past him, and hour later, a good wheel was assembled, and he was spinning it against a screwdriver, that he was holding on the fork tube. It was all up & going for the rider in the morning. Those guys were great! I know that they changed a crank overnight in the event. When I gave the bike the afternoon check, it was clacking & banging. When is stalled, the rider couldn't kick it over to start it. The next morning, the bike was back again, and the rider was going WFO!!!
Finally, not a story, but a hands-up question. Is the front guard on the bike straight? It looked like it's higher on the near-side of the bike.
Anyhow, thanks for another great video. I'll look for the next episode next week.
Andrew
BTW, now that I've written this comment, and remembered the Aust Safari, I realise that the Roadrunner I have is at least 40 years old... LOL
13 hours after your video was available I get to watch your bespoke work and your wish for 80k subscribers has been reached ! Well done and well deserved oh master of metal . I expect you have laced a few wheels in your work , but I think I probably will never even try . One job for the expert , imagine a wheel breaking up under you at speed !
Motorcycle wheels - something I've never built. Plenty of bicycle wheels though.
Another superb watch Paul/Mitch
Cheers Chris
Another greed video Paul. A quick way to check the dish is to just turn the wheel around in the jig. (The right side of the wheel in the right side of the jig to the left side the jig.) Measure the distance before turning the wheel around and then measure after. Will show whether it is centered without installing on the motorcycle. Easer to center it if it needs to be adjusted.
I once built a set of wheels for my mountain bike using purchased components.
It was an incredible feeling of accomplishment and satisfaction.
Great work on the wheel! It's awesome!
Another great video Paul and Mitch! I have built a few bike and motorbike wheels but never considered myself an expert. I have a pal who builds bike wheels professionally and he even goes as far as aligning the trade mark on the hub barrel with the valve hole when he laces up. By the way in the UK I believe the depression in the rim well is called a 'dimple'. Keep up the good work!
I use the same set-up but with a dial-gauge and a nylon tip. Goes faster for me with the +or- thousands of an inch marked on the rim with a sharpie. Great job Paul.
Good to see you Paul cheers keep on building to race !
new to your world and loving the sprint road racer & tiger cub work !
Paul, you are one cool guy. Keep on keeping on😊
Thanks for another great, educational video, Paul and Mitch.
Nice work personally when I laced a wheel I like to confirm that it is true by checking the gap inside the rim where the tire actually will be in contact with the rim. I find sometime that rim could be a little off outside and right on inside especially with used one. René from Québec
I don't know why people don't subscribe...but as I finish watching this at 15.33 on 11/12 ..Woo Hoo you have your 80K!
Another great video. You two are the best! Excellent content (I always learn things) and the editing is superb, making your videos easy to watch.
Always outstanding to watch.. And learn.. and relaxing....
Just hit the 80.000 mark i guess🌟🌟🌟great and accurate work shown in detail as well👍🏻looking forward to the next episode😎👋🏻
My dad used to make the Roadrunner in the Avon Tyres Melksham factory many years ago!
Thank you Paul and Mitch!
I've never heard anything good about the Chinese Mikunis, but good luck. I recommend OKO carbs, which have worked great for me. OKO-USA is run by Roger Annable, super guy with great service. It's a square slide carb.
Can't wait to see it on the track.
those cooling fins on the hub look beautiful!
I like to use a dial indicator on truing the wheels. Spin it around once and set zero to the middle, then you can adjust each spoke for left and right to centre.
Whatever you are comfortable with, just an option. Takes me forever though.
Hi Paul,
I always thought, that a carburetor has to be mounted horizontal, because the gas inside the float bowl only acts on the float right, when everything is level ?
Been here from the start.
Your numbers are looking good.
Avon Road Runner 2 were my go to tyres.
I didn't trust anything else.
Looking forward to hearing it.
Paul's Bikes are so beautiful. ♥
I'm definitely subbed and I like the videos before the ad even starts.... Good Luck getting to 80k guys. 😁👍❤️
🙋♂️I have a question…. how can anyone NOT be subscribed to Paul Brodie Shop?!
Thanks Paul, that turned out to be a very elegant wheel.
Very nice
Bravo Paul
That must have felt great to not have to tweak things to get the dish right! I don't know motorcycles but I know art and this is art! On with the fun!
This rim is turning out awesome
Congratulations, 80.1k as of 8:44 EST 12/14!
And Avon still offers a 90/90-18.
I've built several mountain bike wheels and once you figure out how to count to 4, it's easier than I imagined. Trueing them though is the "true" art
Long time subscriber here 😎you made it look easy lacing the wheel 👍
Hey Paul, As I recall, several years ago, I mentioned a custom car fab guy in Nova Scotia, "Bad Chad" (on TH-cam). He practices a welding technique that might be of interest... He makes about 4 overlapping tacks, then blows the weld zone with cold compressed air, then moves about 4 or 5 inches along and repeats. This minimizes heat-warping, especially when he is butt welding panels together. If you were to scale back this technique on the intake manifold, like maybe 3 or four overlapping tacks; cool air; move 90 degrees around; repeat; etc., and work your way around the flange, it might help. Just an idea to play with if you feel like it :-) NOTE: I watched that part again, and I think that maybe this is what you were describing: working your way around the flange-to-tubing weld...
And very nice job on truing the wheel "dish"!
Paul’s welding makes bad Chad look like an amateur…Paul doesn’t mig…Chad doesn’t have a clue hot to tig or silver solder. Don’t mean to be insulting but Chad doesn't have a clue how an engine runs, electrical, how to use a lathe or mill…he is having fun though.
Congratulations on your achievement .
Thank you ❤
Looking great
👍👍👍
Lovely bike, Paul!
Pops Yoshimura had the opinion that Keihins were for 4-strokes, while Mikunis were for 2-strokes!
I found the Keihin FCRs to be very tunable and accurate myself...
great knowledge beeing shared. Tk you!
I have built many wheels..stainless spokes on stainless nipples…Buchanan’s stuff…they sell nice spoke wrenches in decimal inch size…I have used am26 on all my BMW’s . I use a straight edge to measure the dish but you have to have a number to do that..
There's an advantage to steel manifold as it doesn't transfer heat from engine.
Have you ever tried an air cooled Beetle carb (Solex)
Being downdraft , manifold
k mounting surface could be machined flat, spacer added and not have an 'updraft' manifold (mixture wouldn't have to turn 180 degrees to get into cylinder)
Rims are Dimpled.
Trimming spokes in deep dimple alloy rims is a PITA, on steel rims angle grinder can be used, spoke heads are always above or just flush with rim.
Truing wheel with an MX rim on street hub is one of the few video's I've ever posted on You Tube.
Spent ages trying to true out the weld area on rim before taking a real good look as to why I couldn't get better than 0.010" run out
I used an old rusty swing arm off a CB400A with angle iron welded across it.
Ugly, but works.
good for for old boy ///hows the cub going ???
I was thinking, man that dish is gonna be perfect and we’re not gonna see Paul actually fix it. Guess I was right.
PS thats a GOOD FIT😯😯😯🤓🤓
Oh, I'm subscribed. Would it help if I unsubscribed and immediately resubscribed? I used to always, throughout a wheel build tap the spokes in the vicinity of an adjustment to hear if it's possible to even out the tension of the wheel and make it straighter in fewer steps. You can find those loose spokes that are the main issue straight away. We had some bigger spoke wrenches though that would really make them ring. And YES. the half inch belt sander is a must have. The spoke wrenches that I used were about a quarter inch thick, seven inches long and precisely machined on the gripping surfaces. I think there were four double ended wrenches that covered all of the spokes and nipples that I dealt with. Making a set of those could be a good build series.
Great, well thought out work Mr. Brodie! I’m going to sneak onto my wife’s TH-cam account and subscribe to your channel 😉
The wheel looks fantastic. Keep up the nice work Paul.
Do you put anything on the the spoke threads? We used to use teflon or graphite dry lube on the bicycles to stop the stainless galling.
Looks like you made 80k subs!
Its Called A dimple on the rim .
Subscribed here lol
Have been for over couple years
Paul I appreciate your content !
I have a Harley 350 aermacchi I need a piston and rings to built the engine any ideas where I can get some parts I need head gaskets too
I want to build a full faring race bike I’m not worried about weight …I just want a street bike that looks like a racer
Thanks
I need one of those intake manifolds! Are they 18% off?
Seriously, I need one for a 35 Mikuni.
Been subbed for a bit now, if I could do it again I would hopefully this comment will help with the algorithm and get this out there so we can get you those 63+ subs you need for 80k before Christmas Paul. 👍👍
(Hand up)
Do motorcycle wheel builders not use a spoke tension gauge like a cycle wheel builder would?
...i would have thought correct tension according to different spoke guage would be even more important than on a bicycle? Genuine question/not trolling! 😂
Buchanan’s sells a torque wrench to check tightness…I don't use it on every spoke though.
how does one buy coffee?
Кусок алюминия 49 долларов. И готовый карбюратор из за океана 80 долларов. Очень интересен процесс ценообразования.
Your motorcycles don't interest me in the slightest.