Nicely done Hobbo. My fastest in the Porche GT3 stock setup at Bathurst is 2.08.xxx. I really like your driving style, smooth, usually very consistent, calm manner, the fewest of driving inputs. awesome stuff.
Thanks man I really appreciate that. I'd love to race the Porsche. It's one of my favourite cars on the sim. Unfortunately I just can't find the time right now to pick up an extra car to drive
Liked it. I agree, completely. I like to find a setup I know "should" be fine (i.e. VRS') and then lap over and over again until I think I have it. Only if I feel something is going terribly wrong I do some small and basic adjustments in the setup, otherwise I feel that the results or their lack are my fault.
Thanks. I understand how people who say it to me feel when I race against you. But I know I just need to improve my driving more to be at the very front. I raced on the same setups as filsell all last season...
classy video hobbo, i do have to agree with you there, although i do find when i set my car up nice, and im comfortable, i do find a few tenths, but thats down to the driver in my opinion, i have told a few guys its all just seat time, practice practice practice, and when your finished that practice, practice some more haha. First time at oran park this week for me, i found 3.4 seconds after a ton of practice and got my lap time down to a 1.06 flat. i think all a setup does is makes your job easier driving it over a stint. Really have to pay attention to your inputs more than setup, especially around a track like bathurst or oran park, full of bumps that can easily offload the rear of the car.
Good vid but did anyone else notice towards the end you said ya had 40 litres of fuel and 145 (psi!) In the tyres lol ! Didn't know tyres could inflate that much . Super special setup imo > 😂
Hey hobbo! Great vid! I’m running iracing on my Simworx v2 rig. Best time of 2:07.773. Trying to get my times down but I’ve noticed that you get a lot more top speed down conrod. I’m struggling to get 285km/h about 10km/h less than you. I’ve tried 1.00 to 0.94 diff ratio and still can’t seem to get it. Have you got any tips? Cheers in advance!
Hi Hobbo, all the best for your E-Sports series this year, I have a question regarding lap times, I feel as though I’m pushing so hard and I still can only get a 2:11 - 2:12 does the track state make a huge difference? As I’m using the Time Attack Sim and I believe it’s a green track. Any information would be great dude! Cheers
I’m currently playing RFactor 2 and the ZB commodore out of the box runs out of legs very quickly down Conrod. I’m thinking a setup in that instance will make a hell of a difference 🤣
a decent setup can help..but.. default setups are generally a great starting point tho and can be competitive in the right hands its a sad situation on iracing these days..setups used to be shared a lot more than they do now.. there wasnt any pay setups either ..SMH... i do alot of laps at bathurst..(not much in the v8!).. ..theres a lot in the track where you can gain time...its one of them tracks where no 2 laps are identical..i was doin low 4s with the supercars esport setup Kostecki made for them to use..
I find it hard to tell if the setup im testing is helping me get faster with every slight change to it or the fact that constantly putting down more laps in the car is increasing my track knowledge thus making my time faster.
Very cool video mate, interesting to see if the setup changes the way you drive. Or if it just comes down to the driver! But the Ford sounds very different to what Yourself and also myself are used too haha, the Ford is not to bad to drive in my opinion actually !
I respect the notion behind this video. And agree with your point. I think you could've sealed the door shut if you used the baseline instead. I'm guessing you'd have a similar result though maybe not quite as close. What do you think?
Yeah baseline is fairly comparable as well. Setups certainly make a small difference but regardless the difference is measured in tenths of seconds. So many people ask for my setups because they're 2 seconds a lap slower where really, the setup won't help that much.
You're getting close then. A few more tenths in your driving then setups will help you get that last few tenths 👍 it's really hard to find that last little bit
hobbo88 gerz man man it must add to the immersion. I went VR few months ago and loving it, want me a stick shift for SC though. Keep the vids coming please . 👍
They are identical except in their appearance. The bonnet bulge makes it a big different to drive but the cars themselves are exactly the same in performance etc
I enjoy the supercar vids but you should upload some videos of you racing other iracing cars what other classes do you race frequently? Wish i could do the midget race but already unistalled rfactor waiting for iracing dirt
Well to answer your question I'm running the Daytona 500 this weekend. I try to do the iracing special events but i missed the Daytona 24 and will also be away for the Sebring 12 hour. Unfortunately I do so much in rfactor that I don't have a lot of time for other iracing series. I will be doing a lot of dirt in iracing once it comes. I'd like to do more stuff like more Porsche races, some GT3 and even some open wheelers. On top of that I really enjoy paved oval stuff but it's really hard to find time and official races over in that stuff
hobbo88 i can def understand the time constraints watching you turn laps in these things i just figured you were probably into alot of the other series... Anyway keep em coming i enjoy watching em
A good set can take seconds of your time, which is HUGE. Yes a good driver is a good driver, but a bad set is a bad set, I did note you didn't share your secret set? I mean you said it doesn't really make a difference ? Must make something Engineers must be overpaid anchors
All valid points and I'm sure other people agree with what you're saying. Let me start with, the video is sim racing orientated specifically and engineers in real racing are dead set critical to a successful team. I'll also point out that the V8 community on iracing has this really annoying competitiveness when it comes to setups. Everyone is so secretive hence why I didn't share my own team setup. If I weren't part of a team myself I would happily share it out to everyone. I do however disagree that a setup can take "seconds off your time". In my opinion if you are more than a second off then you probably have time to find in your driving style. A bad setup can indeed slow you down, but anything in the V8 with correct tyre pressures, rear end ratio and conservative spring settings (even baseline as a basis) should get the best drivers within a second or maybe even a few tenths depending on the track. Being fast in this car falls to a lot of practice for me. It's hard to drive and takes a long time to master. A really good setup will likely find you the couple of tenths you need to get to the front but you need to be a hell of a driver first before that really matters. Even I've got a lot to learn in driving technique in this car before I can say I've mastered it
What sort of difference in handling do you get between the Ford and the Holden in Iracing? I'd love to see more videos on the V8 handling in Iracing, it's a kinda of black magic getting these to go fast. EDIT: Well I see you've answered that already, the bonnet bulge throws me off plenty in the Falcon but apart from that it's mostly my poor driving.
HI hobbo!! have you chosen the next Rfactor race couse I'm eager to see it. lol. I just like the videos so yeah. wene I made the video I was stopping stop motions I made a mistake I was stopping the Ohio sprint week so hope you forgive me.
All good man :) my next videos will be the Daytona 500 which I'm racing tonight but may not go up until Monday. And then my chili bowl midget race with my fans which will happen in just over 24 hours. Beyond that who knows!
What an interesting vid giving an interesting subject of discussion. Here is my point of view(i ll make a short as possible but speaking of setups is hard to be short XD) First of all, i am not what we call an "alien", i am div2 with around 2500 irating, so not bad, but not good either. That said, i ve got two advantages: 1/ i am concistent, doing few if not no mistake in a race(i dont try to do what i can't) 2/ i can build a setup from nothing( i even prefer it, i dont like to make a"base" from someone else cos i dont know how did he get there So, with the first point, my times being almost consistent along the laps, i directly see when i got an advantage when i do a change on a setup. With the second point, i know what to change when i feel something bad on my car in a specific situation, when i got a doubt, the motec helps me to understand what the happening of what i feel) I often ear people say, "yeah, i received a setup from the pro driver xxxx xxxx" Well, sorry but that s totally useless, because a random iracer does NOT have the skill to correctly use that kind of setup(most of time extra-turning, oversteering all over the lap) and if he does he will not be able to do this on a full race time. The first point of making a setup is to make the car feeling safe for you, and only you, with your driving style. The confidence in the car your own setup will give you, that will make you win seconds, yes seconds, compared to the pro-driver setup. When this confidence has been reached, at that moment u can begin to make few adjustment to get a setup a little more competitive a continue to win a few tenth, and in some series, a few tenth a lap means being top5 in place of top 20. Of course this system needs a lot of time. and most of time you pass a week to practice, get confidence on the track and fine tune your setup to finally race on saturday to get the best result you can. With that process, that made me get the 5th place div2 and 6th place overall in protogt with the ford gt class in 2014(before being off iracing and coming back a few weeks ago) I agree there was less opponent, but what made the difference was the difficulty to find a good and easy to drive setup on that car, only a few have been able to, and i was one of them, giving me that good performance on the serie. That year, the same way i ve been in the top 20 in advanced mazda mx-5 serie(with +/- 3500 oppponents in the serie) working the same way, practice, get confidence with a SAFE setup, and than get a few ewtra tenth with some fine tune. In that serie i began with 1700 irating and finished with almost 2500. To conclude, a good setup can make you win yes, but not the one you think, not the "fast one" everybody wants, the safe one made by yourself. ;-)
Something more,i got bad news for the ones that want to use that way, i am simracing online since GTR1, so it s nearly 15 years i do setups, read books,tutorials, experience different things, read my data analysis,.... So yes it s the good way to do, but it s a long way before you get good results if you are not engineer ;-)
These are all fair and good points that I can't argue with. A good setup will find you a gain that's obvious. I would argue that you would find only tenths of a second not several seconds with a setup but other than that you are right. My point in this video was more that having a magic setup doesn't instantly make you quicker. You will find a lot more from learning how to drive correctly than you will from a really good setup. I do completely agree that to get the very most out of the car, you need to have a setup that you are comfortable with over one that someone else can drive fast. Every driver is different and extracts speed in unique ways. I'm a really deep braker and that is completely different to some other drivers. What works for someone else wont necessarily work for me etc. PS this comment was marked as spam hence why I've been slow to reply..
Easy to drive but difficult to master. At 90% it’s not too bad but once you start pushing it gets very hard to drive. Keep up the practice you’ll get there 👍
@@hobbo88 Thanks man! Deffs something to work towards. Could only manage a 2:19 at Bathurst. But iRacing seems fun so I may just start in the MX5 or whatever it is! But either can't wait to start my journey
The only half hour video I have ever watched start to finish, well done.
Thanks 🙂
Nicely done Hobbo. My fastest in the Porche GT3 stock setup at Bathurst is 2.08.xxx. I really like your driving style, smooth, usually very consistent, calm manner, the fewest of driving inputs. awesome stuff.
Thanks man I really appreciate that. I'd love to race the Porsche. It's one of my favourite cars on the sim. Unfortunately I just can't find the time right now to pick up an extra car to drive
I’d still love to find a good braking point video somewhere. I do agree with your conclusion.
Liked it. I agree, completely. I like to find a setup I know "should" be fine (i.e. VRS') and then lap over and over again until I think I have it. Only if I feel something is going terribly wrong I do some small and basic adjustments in the setup, otherwise I feel that the results or their lack are my fault.
Not that important, must be why they're such a big secret...
Great video! Exactly what I say to anyone that asks me the same question. Really well done and well worded mate.
Thanks. I understand how people who say it to me feel when I race against you. But I know I just need to improve my driving more to be at the very front. I raced on the same setups as filsell all last season...
Great video. But agree with below would be interesting between baseline and the setups
I can't even get out the pits at Bathurst in a V8! :')
Takes a lot at practice and patience to learn this car!
Cleared it up for me mate, thanks!
classy video hobbo, i do have to agree with you there, although i do find when i set my car up nice, and im comfortable, i do find a few tenths, but thats down to the driver in my opinion, i have told a few guys its all just seat time, practice practice practice, and when your finished that practice, practice some more haha. First time at oran park this week for me, i found 3.4 seconds after a ton of practice and got my lap time down to a 1.06 flat. i think all a setup does is makes your job easier driving it over a stint. Really have to pay attention to your inputs more than setup, especially around a track like bathurst or oran park, full of bumps that can easily offload the rear of the car.
Pretty much exactly my point. You can find a lot more time in changing your driving than you can in changing your setup
spot on, one day i will get quicker so i can start banging doors with you fellas lol
Good vid but did anyone else notice towards the end you said ya had 40 litres of fuel and 145 (psi!) In the tyres lol ! Didn't know tyres could inflate that much . Super special setup imo > 😂
Hey hobbo! Great vid! I’m running iracing on my Simworx v2 rig. Best time of 2:07.773. Trying to get my times down but I’ve noticed that you get a lot more top speed down conrod. I’m struggling to get 285km/h about 10km/h less than you. I’ve tried 1.00 to 0.94 diff ratio and still can’t seem to get it. Have you got any tips? Cheers in advance!
I use the 2nd tallest ratio. Whatever that is I can't remember now. A .960 maybe
Hi Hobbo, all the best for your E-Sports series this year, I have a question regarding lap times, I feel as though I’m pushing so hard and I still can only get a 2:11 - 2:12 does the track state make a huge difference? As I’m using the Time Attack Sim and I believe it’s a green track. Any information would be great dude! Cheers
Track state can make a difference but weather and track temps are the biggest factor
Thanks dude! Your videos are why I got into iRacing too! Converted from Forza with a controller to PC with a steering wheel! Thanks again dude 🤘🏼
So... like everything else... proper practice time, effort and dedication = getting better. Who would have thought?
I’m currently playing RFactor 2 and the ZB commodore out of the box runs out of legs very quickly down Conrod. I’m thinking a setup in that instance will make a hell of a difference 🤣
Yeah correct gear ratio is important. But doesn’t really change handling characteristics much
@@hobbo88 feel free to take us through a setup one day 🤣
a decent setup can help..but.. default setups are generally a great starting point tho and can be competitive in the right hands
its a sad situation on iracing these days..setups used to be shared a lot more than they do now.. there wasnt any pay setups either ..SMH...
i do alot of laps at bathurst..(not much in the v8!).. ..theres a lot in the track where you can gain time...its one of them tracks where no 2 laps are identical..i was doin low 4s with the supercars esport setup Kostecki made for them to use..
I find it hard to tell if the setup im testing is helping me get faster with every slight change to it or the fact that constantly putting down more laps in the car is increasing my track knowledge thus making my time faster.
I usually find the same thing. I often mess around with setups and then revert back to what I started with to find it was the best all along
Very cool video mate, interesting to see if the setup changes the way you drive. Or if it just comes down to the driver! But the Ford sounds very different to what Yourself and also myself are used too haha, the Ford is not to bad to drive in my opinion actually !
Yeah it's just a personal preference thing but I'm a holden man to the core!
Yeah, same here to mate. Holden will always be better haha
I respect the notion behind this video. And agree with your point. I think you could've sealed the door shut if you used the baseline instead. I'm guessing you'd have a similar result though maybe not quite as close. What do you think?
Yeah baseline is fairly comparable as well. Setups certainly make a small difference but regardless the difference is measured in tenths of seconds. So many people ask for my setups because they're 2 seconds a lap slower where really, the setup won't help that much.
hobbo88 🖒Yeah I gotta find a sec.
You're getting close then. A few more tenths in your driving then setups will help you get that last few tenths 👍 it's really hard to find that last little bit
hobbo.. what kind of times would you be getting of a baseline setup? just wondering..
scratch that mate.. i just seen you already commented on a similar question cheers bro...
Lol no probs
Hobbo do you use paddle or seq. stick shift as per real car's ? Enjoying your vid's !!
Unfortunately I don't have a proper sequential shifter so I am forced to use paddles.
hobbo88 gerz man man it must add to the immersion. I went VR few months ago and loving it, want me a stick shift for SC though. Keep the vids coming please . 👍
How much difference is there between the Commodore and the Falcon?
They are identical except in their appearance. The bonnet bulge makes it a big different to drive but the cars themselves are exactly the same in performance etc
what's the difference between both cars? i only have the ford...
They're identical except for their appearance
I enjoy the supercar vids but you should upload some videos of you racing other iracing cars what other classes do you race frequently? Wish i could do the midget race but already unistalled rfactor waiting for iracing dirt
Well to answer your question I'm running the Daytona 500 this weekend. I try to do the iracing special events but i missed the Daytona 24 and will also be away for the Sebring 12 hour. Unfortunately I do so much in rfactor that I don't have a lot of time for other iracing series. I will be doing a lot of dirt in iracing once it comes. I'd like to do more stuff like more Porsche races, some GT3 and even some open wheelers. On top of that I really enjoy paved oval stuff but it's really hard to find time and official races over in that stuff
hobbo88 i can def understand the time constraints watching you turn laps in these things i just figured you were probably into alot of the other series... Anyway keep em coming i enjoy watching em
Yeah would love to race in some other stuff as well you're right about that.
good looking car Hobbo
Great looking paint. Not a great looking car 😂
A good set can take seconds of your time, which is HUGE. Yes a good driver is a good driver, but a bad set is a bad set, I did note you didn't share your secret set? I mean you said it doesn't really make a difference ? Must make something
Engineers must be overpaid anchors
All valid points and I'm sure other people agree with what you're saying.
Let me start with, the video is sim racing orientated specifically and engineers in real racing are dead set critical to a successful team.
I'll also point out that the V8 community on iracing has this really annoying competitiveness when it comes to setups. Everyone is so secretive hence why I didn't share my own team setup. If I weren't part of a team myself I would happily share it out to everyone.
I do however disagree that a setup can take "seconds off your time". In my opinion if you are more than a second off then you probably have time to find in your driving style. A bad setup can indeed slow you down, but anything in the V8 with correct tyre pressures, rear end ratio and conservative spring settings (even baseline as a basis) should get the best drivers within a second or maybe even a few tenths depending on the track.
Being fast in this car falls to a lot of practice for me. It's hard to drive and takes a long time to master. A really good setup will likely find you the couple of tenths you need to get to the front but you need to be a hell of a driver first before that really matters. Even I've got a lot to learn in driving technique in this car before I can say I've mastered it
About time you got in the right car HOBBO...
Don't get the wrong idea :P
What sort of difference in handling do you get between the Ford and the Holden in Iracing? I'd love to see more videos on the V8 handling in Iracing, it's a kinda of black magic getting these to go fast.
EDIT: Well I see you've answered that already, the bonnet bulge throws me off plenty in the Falcon but apart from that it's mostly my poor driving.
hobbo88 Andrew. harmon
Peregrine M FGX's bonnet bulge is where us Ford drivers put our balls. They've gotta go somewhere, right? 😆
Could you please make a video on how to connect ihud for rfactor, to rfactor please? Cheers mate
I don't use it so I can't help you out. Sorry
hobbo88 all good man. Thanks anyway
HI hobbo!! have you chosen the next Rfactor race couse I'm eager to see it. lol. I just like the videos so yeah. wene I made the video I was stopping stop motions I made a mistake I was stopping the Ohio sprint week so hope you forgive me.
All good man :) my next videos will be the Daytona 500 which I'm racing tonight but may not go up until Monday. And then my chili bowl midget race with my fans which will happen in just over 24 hours. Beyond that who knows!
Thanks man. wished I could race with you on the chilli bowl challenge but sadly bo Rfactor. O well watching is better than nothing
What an interesting vid giving an interesting subject of discussion.
Here is my point of view(i ll make a short as possible but speaking of setups is hard to be short XD)
First of all, i am not what we call an "alien", i am div2 with around 2500 irating, so not bad, but not good either.
That said, i ve got two advantages:
1/ i am concistent, doing few if not no mistake in a race(i dont try to do what i can't)
2/ i can build a setup from nothing( i even prefer it, i dont like to make a"base" from someone else cos i dont know how did he get there
So, with the first point, my times being almost consistent along the laps, i directly see when i got an advantage when i do a change on a setup.
With the second point, i know what to change when i feel something bad on my car in a specific situation, when i got a doubt, the motec helps me to understand what the happening of what i feel)
I often ear people say, "yeah, i received a setup from the pro driver xxxx xxxx"
Well, sorry but that s totally useless, because a random iracer does NOT have the skill to correctly use that kind of setup(most of time extra-turning, oversteering all over the lap) and if he does he will not be able to do this on a full race time.
The first point of making a setup is to make the car feeling safe for you, and only you, with your driving style.
The confidence in the car your own setup will give you, that will make you win seconds, yes seconds, compared to the pro-driver setup.
When this confidence has been reached, at that moment u can begin to make few adjustment to get a setup a little more competitive a continue to win a few tenth, and in some series, a few tenth a lap means being top5 in place of top 20.
Of course this system needs a lot of time. and most of time you pass a week to practice, get confidence on the track and fine tune your setup to finally race on saturday to get the best result you can.
With that process, that made me get the 5th place div2 and 6th place overall in protogt with the ford gt class in 2014(before being off iracing and coming back a few weeks ago)
I agree there was less opponent, but what made the difference was the difficulty to find a good and easy to drive setup on that car, only a few have been able to, and i was one of them, giving me that good performance on the serie.
That year, the same way i ve been in the top 20 in advanced mazda mx-5 serie(with +/- 3500 oppponents in the serie) working the same way, practice, get confidence with a SAFE setup, and than get a few ewtra tenth with some fine tune. In that serie i began with 1700 irating and finished with almost 2500.
To conclude, a good setup can make you win yes, but not the one you think, not the "fast one" everybody wants, the safe one made by yourself. ;-)
Something more,i got bad news for the ones that want to use that way, i am simracing online since GTR1, so it s nearly 15 years i do setups, read books,tutorials, experience different things, read my data analysis,....
So yes it s the good way to do, but it s a long way before you get good results if you are not engineer ;-)
These are all fair and good points that I can't argue with. A good setup will find you a gain that's obvious. I would argue that you would find only tenths of a second not several seconds with a setup but other than that you are right.
My point in this video was more that having a magic setup doesn't instantly make you quicker. You will find a lot more from learning how to drive correctly than you will from a really good setup.
I do completely agree that to get the very most out of the car, you need to have a setup that you are comfortable with over one that someone else can drive fast. Every driver is different and extracts speed in unique ways. I'm a really deep braker and that is completely different to some other drivers. What works for someone else wont necessarily work for me etc.
PS this comment was marked as spam hence why I've been slow to reply..
Just started iRacing, and the V8 is fun, but sooo hard
Easy to drive but difficult to master. At 90% it’s not too bad but once you start pushing it gets very hard to drive. Keep up the practice you’ll get there 👍
@@hobbo88 Thanks man! Deffs something to work towards. Could only manage a 2:19 at Bathurst. But iRacing seems fun so I may just start in the MX5 or whatever it is! But either can't wait to start my journey
Good video - but tyres won't be 145 psi ;-)
Setups dont matter? Tell a real racing driver that bullshit and see how much he will laugh of you.
the ford isn't that hard to drive
It's not but the bonnet bulge can throw you off a little when you're not used to it. Sounds are a little different as well :)
the bump is the reason why I drive the Ford lol