@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349It's like real life you know? You'll see people put on a character and become something they never even intended to be. While still having the good parts, the memories and all that.. That's why you respect people more often because there are genuinely good people that are hiding behind their conscious. We all get misguided, we all get confused and we all love.
It’s a mix. Scott is an ass yes but Ramona is also a selfish prick. They both could have prevented all of this if Ramona didn’t run away from her problems and if Scott wasn’t such a hot head and jumped to outrageous conclusions. But that’s why they are perfect for each other. They both equally suck balls.
I'm feeling out an allegory for self-harm or an extreme depiction of literal self-destruction, but I don't know how to put it eloquently. But I do enjoy how Scott is passionately fighting for control of his life, recognizing his mistakes and in turn, learning what it's like to not learn from them. There's never a better teacher than knowing how badly you can fuck yourself up.
Just like in the movie… not really no but like In the movie, Scott’s final boss is supposed to be the direct opposite of himself, “Nega Scott,” but rather than getting an epic fight scene, it just turns out that Nega Scott’s actually a decent guy lol
@FOREEAL Yeah, what kind off makes it confusing is nega scott was all the bad traits of scott realised in the comics. The movie shows the opposite of scott being just a really nice guy and the anime shows us what if scott was an even badder guy than he kind of already is. I still think that all of these versions work in there own way though
It’s sad how Scott and Ramona in the future drifted apart. While they both have their issues, future old Scott Especially, future old Ramona still didn’t do much to let him know how she felt and that they could’ve fixed things given the chance:
It's more like future Scott completely misread the situation when Ramona said she just needed space. He mistook it as her saying she was dumping him, when he could have at least asked if that's what she meant.
@@oldchannelforayoungstupidf2649Yeah but future Scott said they got divorced which you have to sign papers to do and no one divorces their husband when they need space.
@oldchannelforayoungstupidf2649 both were in the wrong equally. Older Ramona didn't say when she was ready again and didn't contact him or anyone that knew him once she was ready.
Author said each adaptation is its own thing. So in the other adaptations(comics, video game, and movie) they didn't do this as they actually learned their lessons
@@TopTierHater1Old Scott clarified in that scene that they were “technically separated” They weren’t divorced, old Scott just felt like that’s what he and old Ramona were tumbling toward.
I personally like to take it as yet another sign that Scott's willing to learn from the mistakes of his future self and is like "Yeah, no. Older version of my crush has a point."
i got sad when the old versions of them werent together anymore. scott gave her way too much space and didnt even try to get back to her and ramona just didnt communicate
In the comics, the catharsis for Scott and Ramona comes from both of them acknowledging their issues. And that's it. So if they never learned to how to DEAL and control themselves, it would happen all over again.
@@jaydenlopez3636And judging by the fact that Scott instantly goes on the offensive in the Patel fight in the anime, it's not unlikely to assume that maybe this universe's Scott is (or was, before the events of the series) even more brash/impulsive.
@@jaydenlopez3636yeah, seemingly future scott never fought Nega Scott, theres no mention of Lisa either, so probably safe to assume that its a what-if version of him where he still beat the exes but never really went through any of the deeper character defining moments that Scott Prime went through. And since Scott doesnt grow, Ramona doesnt either. Theyre the same people they were when they first met in this future. The third (maybe fourth if you count the film) set of Scott and Ramona do learn and change though, Ramona defeats the league through facing up to her own shitty behaviour and making amends with some of the exes (Lucas and Roxy mostly) and Scott can skip the nega-scott fight because he has to deal with two versions of his future self that are actually worse than Nega was.
Yeah she should have called also or something. We're not divorced Oh I'm sorry, but you never tried! Calling me what am I supposed to assume you went out to get milk!
@mic806 true but that's giving Ramona the upper hand. It's honestly on both of them. In the 10 years she could have at least reached out once. If old Scott still reacted this way after then that's his fault. That's what younger Ramona notices. That even at an old age she still runs away from her problems. Which is why she says that she chooses herself and own up to her mistakes. Then young Scott sees how badly his obsessions will leave him so he gets some internal growth as well. So their chances of actually staying together happy increase. Both of them saw their red flags and choose to work on it
Future Ramona and Future Scott both annoy me, but Ramona especially. He gave her space, and SHE blames HIM for not bugging her "have you had enough space yet?" Bullshirt. Its the person who asks for space's job to reach out when theyre ready. She did nothing. She knew where he was, and did nothing for 10 years. Sure, destroying the past makes him the bad guy, but beyond that? Theyre both terrible and deserve loneliness.
Ramona is at fault. She has a track record. Scott had every right to assume she was dumping him. Approaching her might have been considered harassment so Scott gave her space.
Same, ever since I heard that little theme, I've been meaning to see if anyone has uploaded the theme. It's just mesmerizing alongside her having that full moon behind her
The show implies Ramona's at fault too but I wish they explored it more. Ramona skated away from her relationship like she does everytime, and she didn't call or text either. This Scott fought the evil Exes so he wouldn't want to emulate that behaviour so he respected her space.
As cool as this was and kind of makes up for the whole way the show turned out to be...wouldn't it take away from Scott and Ramona developing their romance? Assuming future them takes place after the comics? Present Scott and Ramona skipped through 6 books worth of development 😅
@bryangarcia5207 Ahh, well, that's better then. I liked aspects of this. Excusing it from other media, its good. As part lf the books or movies, not as much but still entertaining!
That's what I'm saying. It made it feel like both of them never grew or followed through on what they promised at the end of Vol 6. That falls in line of a trope most modern reworking do to franchises: character assassination. They could have used this quarrel between the 2 future selves during Scott's journey to defeat Ramonas evil exes as motivation to stay committed and prove them wrong.
But ramona should have texted scott what stopped her from doing that .Shes acting like its just future scotts fault.What stopped her from seeking him out try to reach out to him before the 10 years .
To is dosent seem like the real future scoot because in the comics scoot matured and grew to be very aware of everything mainly how his actions effect others and how others effect him. how to improve mentally and to be what he needs to for people around him
Jeez, Even Older Scott need to grow up, just because she said she needed space, doesn't mean to leave her in 10 years. I fully understand this show more now. This Scott is terrible
that ending of the scott pilgrim anime ruins the plot than fighting the final boss of gideon graves... such a dissapointment for scott pilgrim fans knew from the game and comic...
so, to summarize the Scott and Ramona from the original Graphic novel scrapped ALL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT and life lessons they learned throughout 6 books and somehow revert their scummy selves they were at the beggining of Scott Pilgrim's precious little life and ended divorced....wow, just wow, talk about major disrespect to the source material, I mean holy hell this makes the hopeful light novel ending into one of the most depressing ending ever, it's like having a story on a couple that finally got together after many hardships and ending it with "hey honey look we won tickets for the maiden voyage of the Titanic" we already know it will end on tragedy. I'm just going to go ahead and pretend this travesty of a show never existed, thank god I only read the sinopsis of each episode and didn't actually saw the thing, I can just keep the ending of both the movie and the graphic novel being as hopeful as it was intended.
@@clothbandit1973 even if that's the case, it's a "what if" after the events of the graphic novel, were both Scott and Ramona, already went through their issues, but this "what if" scenario just says they went straight back to zero, heck the fact the ramona in the anime went to look for scott doesn't makes much sense as it wasn't until way later on in the novels she care for him enough to even considered something like this, it really just feels this was just made to give Ramona a lot more protagonism just for the sake of it, sacrificing scott and the novel versions of the characters in the process.
@@omarreyes7626 well two good things that come out is that we get to see more of the villains backstory and as well some good fight scene and second we kinda also what kind of scenario where Scott isn't the protagonist of this weird outcome I understand you don't like it and I can see it to but to me I'm glad this was to case if I can learn more of the other characters more
The fact that this Scott came to be because future Ramona just needed some time to herself is character assassination at it's finest. Still a cool battle though.
God I love how old Scott’s voice immediately switches to softer and derpy as soon as old Ramona enters
Not to mention that hopeful innocent tone he has when asking if they can go back together and him just accepting when Ramona tells him no.
@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349It's like real life you know? You'll see people put on a character and become something they never even intended to be. While still having the good parts, the memories and all that.. That's why you respect people more often because there are genuinely good people that are hiding behind their conscious. We all get misguided, we all get confused and we all love.
I love how scott is such a jerk that the actual final boss is just himself
It’s a mix. Scott is an ass yes but Ramona is also a selfish prick. They both could have prevented all of this if Ramona didn’t run away from her problems and if Scott wasn’t such a hot head and jumped to outrageous conclusions. But that’s why they are perfect for each other. They both equally suck balls.
I'm feeling out an allegory for self-harm or an extreme depiction of literal self-destruction, but I don't know how to put it eloquently.
But I do enjoy how Scott is passionately fighting for control of his life, recognizing his mistakes and in turn, learning what it's like to not learn from them.
There's never a better teacher than knowing how badly you can fuck yourself up.
That’s kinda the joke, right? He’s crazy strong, but his life is always a mess. His worse enemy is literally himself
Just like in the movie… not really no but like
In the movie, Scott’s final boss is supposed to be the direct opposite of himself, “Nega Scott,” but rather than getting an epic fight scene, it just turns out that Nega Scott’s actually a decent guy lol
@FOREEAL Yeah, what kind off makes it confusing is nega scott was all the bad traits of scott realised in the comics.
The movie shows the opposite of scott being just a really nice guy and the anime shows us what if scott was an even badder guy than he kind of already is.
I still think that all of these versions work in there own way though
It’s sad how Scott and Ramona in the future drifted apart. While they both have their issues, future old Scott Especially, future old Ramona still didn’t do much to let him know how she felt and that they could’ve fixed things given the chance:
It's more like future Scott completely misread the situation when Ramona said she just needed space. He mistook it as her saying she was dumping him, when he could have at least asked if that's what she meant.
@@oldchannelforayoungstupidf2649Yeah but future Scott said they got divorced which you have to sign papers to do and no one divorces their husband when they need space.
@oldchannelforayoungstupidf2649 both were in the wrong equally. Older Ramona didn't say when she was ready again and didn't contact him or anyone that knew him once she was ready.
Author said each adaptation is its own thing. So in the other adaptations(comics, video game, and movie) they didn't do this as they actually learned their lessons
@@TopTierHater1Old Scott clarified in that scene that they were “technically separated”
They weren’t divorced, old Scott just felt like that’s what he and old Ramona were tumbling toward.
The comedic timing of the shoe tying part gets me every time! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s on you if you don’t tie your 👟
Future Scott is literally Nega Scott fully realized.
Bro what
@@jin_cotlwdym bro what
Nagger @@jin_cotl
“Nega” Scott???
@@CxnnectzNega Scott is a represetation of all Scotts's negatives emotions in a Dark/Gray Scott, Like sonic and shadow
2:10 scott really just nods to that
I personally like to take it as yet another sign that Scott's willing to learn from the mistakes of his future self and is like "Yeah, no. Older version of my crush has a point."
i got sad when the old versions of them werent together anymore. scott gave her way too much space and didnt even try to get back to her and ramona just didnt communicate
In the comics, the catharsis for Scott and Ramona comes from both of them acknowledging their issues.
And that's it.
So if they never learned to how to DEAL and control themselves, it would happen all over again.
@@JaceAce22future Scott isn't the Scott from the comics same for future Romona o mally confirmed it
@@jaydenlopez3636And judging by the fact that Scott instantly goes on the offensive in the Patel fight in the anime, it's not unlikely to assume that maybe this universe's Scott is (or was, before the events of the series) even more brash/impulsive.
i mean she has her fault too ... Scoot is nota mind reader , she never try to counicate either
@@jaydenlopez3636yeah, seemingly future scott never fought Nega Scott, theres no mention of Lisa either, so probably safe to assume that its a what-if version of him where he still beat the exes but never really went through any of the deeper character defining moments that Scott Prime went through. And since Scott doesnt grow, Ramona doesnt either. Theyre the same people they were when they first met in this future.
The third (maybe fourth if you count the film) set of Scott and Ramona do learn and change though, Ramona defeats the league through facing up to her own shitty behaviour and making amends with some of the exes (Lucas and Roxy mostly) and Scott can skip the nega-scott fight because he has to deal with two versions of his future self that are actually worse than Nega was.
RUN AWAY FROM THE THINGS THAT YOU LOVE
-Even Older Scott Pilgrim
0:13 I love the comedic homage to the OG film
It’s so funny how everything could’ve been resolved if all Scott did was communicate really funny
Communication is a two-way street. Ramona gives him flak about 'not even a text', but that implies she never sent him one either...
Yeah she should have called also or something.
We're not divorced
Oh I'm sorry, but you never tried! Calling me what am I supposed to assume you went out to get milk!
@@backgroundnpc9631 I agree, since she tends to run away from her problems but scott shouldve gotten that memo after fighting all her exes
@mic806 true but that's giving Ramona the upper hand.
It's honestly on both of them. In the 10 years she could have at least reached out once. If old Scott still reacted this way after then that's his fault.
That's what younger Ramona notices. That even at an old age she still runs away from her problems. Which is why she says that she chooses herself and own up to her mistakes.
Then young Scott sees how badly his obsessions will leave him so he gets some internal growth as well.
So their chances of actually staying together happy increase. Both of them saw their red flags and choose to work on it
@@backgroundnpc9631 it's possible she did but maybe cus scott locked himself from the outside world for 10 years he never got it
0:19 DUDE YOU ONLY HAVE ONE SHOE
Future Ramona and Future Scott both annoy me, but Ramona especially. He gave her space, and SHE blames HIM for not bugging her "have you had enough space yet?"
Bullshirt. Its the person who asks for space's job to reach out when theyre ready. She did nothing. She knew where he was, and did nothing for 10 years.
Sure, destroying the past makes him the bad guy, but beyond that? Theyre both terrible and deserve loneliness.
Yes. They both fucked up. That's why both Scott and Ramona had to learn from the mistakes both future selves made.
@@BomberTM well basically 'takes off' versions of scott and ramona are different versions of the movie versions so i guess they'll have a happy ending
Scott becomes Shin-Akuma
Indeed he has
Akuma pilgrim
literally what i was thinking when i first saw this show 😈
thats what i was thinking the ENTIRE TIME
Shin Vegan Akuma
It’s funny how the older versions of them are just a bunch of negative parts of their personalities fully realized
I don't like how Ramona's character is literally she can't handle something so she just takes off but expects others to just understand
Takes off...
1:42 🍑 🍑 🍑 😳😳😳
YES
GYAT DAYUM!
Booty
Got some fire voice acting from Michael Cera at 0:37
This episode hurt more than I ever could’ve expected but what an eye opener
0:32 Yusuke(possessed by Raizen) vs Offensive Armor Sensui reference.
I just realized something…Future Scott, is literally just Nega Scott fully realized.
0:08 😮NOOOO THE BAG
Michael Cera is a REALLY good voice actor
This fight was epic and intense seeing Scott against his other Scott from the future, really unexpected
0:35 bro is NOT tanjiro😭🙏
Ramona is at fault. She has a track record. Scott had every right to assume she was dumping him. Approaching her might have been considered harassment so Scott gave her space.
Thanks you
ok scott
This post was written by scott
Everyone disagreeing with me has never had a healthy break up. If they don’t want to talk, walk (away). Plain and simple.
They are both at fault
0:14 bro really said better safe than sorry
I'M YOU!
Such a hard line!!😮
yuji moment
I need a long remix of Future Ramona's theme (1:27)
Same, ever since I heard that little theme, I've been meaning to see if anyone has uploaded the theme. It's just mesmerizing alongside her having that full moon behind her
The show implies Ramona's at fault too but I wish they explored it more. Ramona skated away from her relationship like she does everytime, and she didn't call or text either. This Scott fought the evil Exes so he wouldn't want to emulate that behaviour so he respected her space.
Scott Pilgrim vs himself.
He stops to tie his ONE SHOE.
Dude literally stopped to tie his one shoe also I noticed the Yu Yu Hakusho
As cool as this was and kind of makes up for the whole way the show turned out to be...wouldn't it take away from Scott and Ramona developing their romance? Assuming future them takes place after the comics? Present Scott and Ramona skipped through 6 books worth of development 😅
Thankfully author confirmed each adaptation is it's own universe. So only in this universe did they not learn their lesson
@bryangarcia5207 Ahh, well, that's better then. I liked aspects of this. Excusing it from other media, its good. As part lf the books or movies, not as much but still entertaining!
That's what I'm saying. It made it feel like both of them never grew or followed through on what they promised at the end of Vol 6. That falls in line of a trope most modern reworking do to franchises: character assassination. They could have used this quarrel between the 2 future selves during Scott's journey to defeat Ramonas evil exes as motivation to stay committed and prove them wrong.
Communication is key people.
2:10 not Scott nodding lol
Me: Get back on comic trail, get back on comic trail, GET BACK ON COMIC TRAIL!!!!!!.
Why the hell does Future Scott sound like one of the zombies from COD
Oh look, Ramona being proven to be a Mary Sue
0:12 that was necessary, you can't beat the crap out of someone with your shoe untied
Scott pilgrim: UBW
But ramona should have texted scott what stopped her from doing that .Shes acting like its just future scotts fault.What stopped her from seeking him out try to reach out to him before the 10 years .
Oh jeee is not like that is the FUCKING POINT OF THE SHOW or anything
Please tell me I'm not the only one who recognises the call of duty zombie noise
To is dosent seem like the real future scoot because in the comics scoot matured and grew to be very aware of everything mainly how his actions effect others and how others effect him. how to improve mentally and to be what he needs to for people around him
Now I fight as Horah Loux WARRIO- oh wait wrong universe.
Scott Pilgrim as Raiden Vs Scott’s Much Older Self as Senator Armstrong: This isn’t my sword, it’s a mistake.
Quote was from Max0r
Lil bro thinks hes goku with that fighting pose
YOU NEED TO LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!!!
Fate Unlimited Blade Works
Does this means Ramona is the Justice Scott was looking for?
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2:31
The part where he tied his shoe lace is me.me:ok im ready for school. Mom:ok lets go.me:wait.*ties shoe laces* mom:😐me:alr😂
Scott: You need to let me live my life
Even Older Scott: If I do, you’ll end up where I ended up, ALONE! Alone in a room for 10 YEARS!
0:35 Not sure if this has been pointed out already, but is that a Yu Yu Hakusho reference?
Yes, I already pointed that out on this very comment section.
Jeez, Even Older Scott need to grow up, just because she said she needed space, doesn't mean to leave her in 10 years. I fully understand this show more now. This Scott is terrible
Best fighting seee ever
How the hell is his past able to keep up with him
Good job ramona 10 years of space
Holy Shit! This is incredible and barely know, Jack-Sh💩t about Scott Pilgrim...
This is kinda headcanon/speculation but I feel like this was effectively new Scott's encounter with nega scott
How did Scott lose his clothes after they both defeated the bad guy 💀
Hadouken. Ha Ha Ha Ha...
that ending of the scott pilgrim anime ruins the plot than fighting the final boss of gideon graves... such a dissapointment for scott pilgrim fans knew from the game and comic...
It's not supposed to be like any of those lol it's a alternative retelling, A what if.
@@LeuBluethat would work if the story didn't imply the movies events took place in the future timeline
@@weafy6007 well that doesn't really mean anything.
Epic
FACK I just started watching DMAN man this is shit now I know they leave each other😭😭😭😭 no man 😭😭😭
so, to summarize the Scott and Ramona from the original Graphic novel scrapped ALL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT and life lessons they learned throughout 6 books and somehow revert their scummy selves they were at the beggining of Scott Pilgrim's precious little life and ended divorced....wow, just wow, talk about major disrespect to the source material, I mean holy hell this makes the hopeful light novel ending into one of the most depressing ending ever, it's like having a story on a couple that finally got together after many hardships and ending it with "hey honey look we won tickets for the maiden voyage of the Titanic" we already know it will end on tragedy.
I'm just going to go ahead and pretend this travesty of a show never existed, thank god I only read the sinopsis of each episode and didn't actually saw the thing, I can just keep the ending of both the movie and the graphic novel being as hopeful as it was intended.
It's a what if that the even lee himself intended because this is what if there's future conflicts
@@clothbandit1973 even if that's the case, it's a "what if" after the events of the graphic novel, were both Scott and Ramona, already went through their issues, but this "what if" scenario just says they went straight back to zero, heck the fact the ramona in the anime went to look for scott doesn't makes much sense as it wasn't until way later on in the novels she care for him enough to even considered something like this, it really just feels this was just made to give Ramona a lot more protagonism just for the sake of it, sacrificing scott and the novel versions of the characters in the process.
@@omarreyes7626 well two good things that come out is that we get to see more of the villains backstory and as well some good fight scene and second we kinda also what kind of scenario where Scott isn't the protagonist of this weird outcome I understand you don't like it and I can see it to but to me I'm glad this was to case if I can learn more of the other characters more
he's not beating goku
Is that fooly cooly
wait no sorry thats delusional
The show is basically a giant buildup to Ramona saying "I'm sorry Scott. It's not you, it's me!"
The fact that this Scott came to be because future Ramona just needed some time to herself is character assassination at it's finest.
Still a cool battle though.
No is not? That is in scott's characters to do so, since is more realistic
or maybe stay with him??? Stupid show 💀
11/30/23 1:27am cst, earth, the milky way galaxy
*sup, future kelan* 😎
I love cartoon fight scenes ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍