I love the Constitution Class. Its shape, its texture, its interior, and the orange ramscoops. It's such a classic, and it's the ship I'd love to command. Also, 100th Comment.
Commander Cockings, it seems to me that in this video you're making a concerted effort to speak more slowly and clearly for the audience, and I really appreciate it. Even just this slight adjustment makes a huge difference in comprehensibility and aesthetic. Thank you, and please keep at it, this is great! =)
hay! yes absolutely...i am acting and reading it like a radio announcer rather than in an energetic way. The advantage of this show is that its 100% audio and not meant to be personality driven plus i am just reading the script, not also having to look at a webcam in between sentences to ensure it looks as if i am engaged. I can be a lot more focused on this rather than the main show where i also have to be a "presenter" and "personality" Glad you are enjoying them!
Thanks for the response, and since I have your attention, let me just say that I am dying for Fleetyards or Spacedock to do a rundown on the SDF-1, or any Zentraedi battleship from the classic anime series, Robotech/Macross. 'Nuff said ;)
I'm a TNG/DS9 kinda guy, so I never particularly noticed TOS era ships beyond their historical significance. But Trekyards has helped me appreciate them more, specially the Constitution class refit, so it has become one of my favorite ship classes now.
The Constitution class is a fine lady when riled she Roars like a lion is one badass ship destroying the D7 Klingon battle cruiser in the four years of War very capable of delivering A1 punch knockout
@@johnstibby I always thought Enterprise A was from scratch but I've heard recently that it was the Yorktown refit. That doesn't make sense to me personally but it might be canon now. I remember in the FASA game the refit class was called Constitution II class, and definitely some were built from scratch. Pretty sure Enterprise A was a new ship in that game at least. I think everything in that game was considered canon at one point too. Seems like Star Trek is a multiverse now so maybe both are true lol
According to the Starfleet Technical Manual, the Constitution class heavy cruisers were built with three sets of dual phaser banks(one bow, one port, one starboard) and two sets of photon torpedo launchers (one bow, one aft). That document is pretty much the canon for the TOS era ships. Or at least, it was until the next generation came out. At which point, the next generation abandoned the past TOS canon.
They take a long time to make and with a separate 3rd perosn that does the LCARS graphics, he is not as far as we can be in house. OH and because we haven't increased out patreon support...no one is donating more to our channel really...so we cant fund new shows. We may set a goal at $1250 a month ($250 more than we have now) and be able to make them :) lots of great ships to look at! Support us on Patreon to see more!
If someone built a brand new Constitution refit from the keel up wouldn't it be "Enterprise Class" ? and only a surviving old Connie that was also refitted would be a Constitution II class. ? Also isn't the A called "Enterprise Class" (at least some of the time) suggesting it was a new build (before it was renamed Enterprise A)
Are you talking about the running lights on the rear top portion of the secondary hull? It looks like they are visible through the warp nacelle support struts as the model spins. Just curious what sort of setting it is in whatever program Samuel is using for the 3D modeling he does. I hope he won't think that I'm giving him a hard time about the render. I am just simply curious. I really am envious of his renders and animations. Overall, they look awesome! :) I really need to learn how to do 3D modeling. Seems like I recall Sam saying that he used Lightwave? I'm probably wrong, so don't quote me on that one! ;) :P But, I have dabbled a bit with it. Nothing of consequence or any real significance, though. :/
I'm really disappointed that there wasn't more talk about the internal layout of the ship, such the bridge, engineering, sickbay, etc. It would have been nice to see some panoramic views of these areas as well.
we dont have 3D models of those interior spaces, these videos are exclusively a short bite sized yet very detailed look at these ships. Short being the operative word as opposed to our other main long form content. When we get to the detailed connie episode it will have all those details and likely be over 1hr long.
Just wondering about the"rust ring" and "weatherizing". Are that Starfleet repairs or indeed weathering from space? What do you think? I'm building the tos 350 and need ideas. 🖖🍀
This is the USS Defiant model from into a mirror darkley...so...its been though the ringers a bit...hence more weathering. It is also an updated version of the Connie design since she has slight azteching and aft weapons.
Going to the Smithsonian next week to see the big E and take lots of photos. Have a bunch of detail shots from 1979 but she was hanging from the ceiling. And my camera at the time was a POS. The upper saucer has lots of painting detail I intend to match. Thanks again guys 🖖
Charles Byington most of the TOS footage was either washed out for lighting or fuzzy from pans and zooms. The remastered looks sweet but not studio accurate. I'll let you know. I'm less then 1 hr drive to D.C. so I'll have time to explore details.
@Linda and Brian Kruse: Was just at the Smithsonian to see the E, and the model currently has no upper detailing on it. It's a flat green-grey paint. You can see some of my shots here: www.flickr.com/photos/101262365@N08/30938742130/in/datetaken-public/ I'm liking the detail on the remastered CG model though. The slight aztecing looks nice.
What's your stance on the theory that the USS Constitution (NCC-1700) was the second vessel in that class to carry the name in order to explain why ships like the USS Constellation (NCC-1017), USS Republic (NCC-1371), USS Intrepid (NCC-1631), USS Exeter (NCC-1672), etc all have lower registry numbers than the class leader?
This is where Franz Joseph's registry numbers should have been used. Considering that the producers just rearranged the digits for the _Constellation_ (1017 is an anagram of 1701), they could have went with 1710 instead (thus keeping the registry line consistent).
we hoped to do many of the big ships for the 50th but the Galaxy took a LONG time to produce and made it tricky to produce all of the other shows...plus 2 work trips aboard...new guests...and Fleetyards...time just got away from us :)
Still the very BEST LOOKING Starships than any other design they came out with, the Constitution Class Starships have always been the best, always WILL be the very best out there.
It's been established that the original design of the delta emblems was not, as you state here, specifically for Enterprise with each ship having its own, but rather was the general Starfleet insignia (www.startrek.com/article/starfleet-insignia-explained).
According to Star Trek Voyager the Enterprise returned from its 5 year mission in 2270 Kirk did not log a single star hour for 2.5 years after according to ST-TMP so the refit launched in 2273
Where are the phaser banks? Torpedo tubes? Lol. That is still one thing that bugs me about this ship, even with the CG model, the ship never got any visible ports, weapons, or nacelle lighting (like Gene originally planned for).
Yeah, they're "there", but not visible. The Defiant was firing torpedoes from the sensor dome in "In a Mirror". The shot were it destroyed the Avenger looked terrible.
One thing i will never understand about Star Trek is how low crew compliment is. I mean Constitution is 288,8 m long and has only 430 crew but Nimitz Class aircaft carrier is 332,8 m long and has crew compliment up and above 5000.
Yes but in comparison the brand new Gerald Ford carriers have less than the crew of the Nimitz class. A fully-staffed Ford-class carrier has a crew of about 800 or so less staff than a Nimitz. That's nearly 20% less crew in the span of about 40 years. Just remember that an extensive array of common, menial tasks aboard a starship are automated. Things like food preparation, cleaning, basic repairs, and day-to-day operational tasks are largely automated and handled by various computer and ship systems, eliminating the need for a large service staff which would otherwise be idle most of the day.
Plus 2,480 of the roughly 5,000 crew members of a Nimitz class carrier are part of the ship's air wing. A better comparison would be to the old Iowa class battleships which had a crew of 2,700 when first commissioned in the 1940s, but by the 1980s the standard crew was 1,800.
Well a good bit of the Constituion class starship's length is the warp nacelles. The actual inhabitable area is not that sizeable. Also an aircraft carrier exists within the Earth's atmosphere so there is no worry about oxygen supply and they can resupply with food, water etc relatively easily. Life support and supplies on a starship designed for deep space missions can handle far fewer crew.
Other responses are on point, but also: naval ships don't go on 5 year deployments, either. That calls for more attention paid to crew comfort than is needed for a 6 month stint.
According to Memory Alpha the official "new warp scale" is defined in the Voyager series, where warp 10 is infinite speed that turns you into a salamander because reasons. Terrible lazy dumb writing.
That's not what Memory Alpha says. Anyway the lizard thing is the terrible writing. The lazy dumb writing is to say the scale of speed goes from an insignificant amount (on the cosmic scale) to infinite at ten. It's both dumb and lazy both on the level of basic logic and basic story structure.
Man, that ship got old. Weapons only being fired from one area, warp 6 being the maximum safe speed. It will always be my favorite but It just doesn't hold up to the newer ones like Voyager or Prometheus
The only known ships of this class that were destroyed were the USS Excalibur during the M5 Wargames and the USS Constellation by the Doomsday Machine and the USS Hood in star trek Continues Embracing The Winds via a Warp Core Containment Failure. As for the fate of the Potemkin,Crazy Horse and Lexington well mm those ships were most likely mothballed or left crippled drifts aswell.
FLAME4564 the TOS defiant disappeared in a parallel dimension in the "tholian web" with their crew massacred maybe this isn't destroyed but it's definitely gone
Nitpicks. Not of TrekYards. General usage. NCC-1701. Sector 001. I usually hear the "0" as "oh's" in the Enterprise designation. I think even the borg used this, but everyone used zero for the Earth sector. NCC-OneSevenZeroOne. Sector ZeroZeroOne.
Yo CapN' Foley, Now THAT'S the ENTERPRISE! No bloody A, B, C, or D! Well done gentlemen!! Thanks for posting, ~Mark~
I love the Constitution Class. Its shape, its texture, its interior, and the orange ramscoops. It's such a classic, and it's the ship I'd love to command.
Also, 100th Comment.
Commander Cockings, it seems to me that in this video you're making a concerted effort to speak more slowly and clearly for the audience, and I really appreciate it. Even just this slight adjustment makes a huge difference in comprehensibility and aesthetic. Thank you, and please keep at it, this is great! =)
hay! yes absolutely...i am acting and reading it like a radio announcer rather than in an energetic way. The advantage of this show is that its 100% audio and not meant to be personality driven plus i am just reading the script, not also having to look at a webcam in between sentences to ensure it looks as if i am engaged. I can be a lot more focused on this rather than the main show where i also have to be a "presenter" and "personality"
Glad you are enjoying them!
Thanks for the response, and since I have your attention, let me just say that I am dying for Fleetyards or Spacedock to do a rundown on the SDF-1, or any Zentraedi battleship from the classic anime series, Robotech/Macross. 'Nuff said ;)
OH HERE YA GO! Robotech/Macross ship size comparison chart yomerome.deviantart.com/art/Star-Ship-Comparison-63562634
I'm a TNG/DS9 kinda guy, so I never particularly noticed TOS era ships beyond their historical significance. But Trekyards has helped me appreciate them more, specially the Constitution class refit, so it has become one of my favorite ship classes now.
The Constitution class is a fine lady when riled she Roars like a lion is one badass ship destroying the D7 Klingon battle cruiser in the four years of War very capable of delivering A1 punch knockout
🖖😎👍Very cool and well done, And very informative and fact based indeed you guys 👌...
My favorite ship in the Star Trek universe constitution-class 1701 USS Enterprise
Were any Connies built as the refit model, from scratch?
biostemm I believe the enterprise A as one from scratch acording to some sources.
@@johnstibby I always thought Enterprise A was from scratch but I've heard recently that it was the Yorktown refit. That doesn't make sense to me personally but it might be canon now. I remember in the FASA game the refit class was called Constitution II class, and definitely some were built from scratch. Pretty sure Enterprise A was a new ship in that game at least. I think everything in that game was considered canon at one point too. Seems like Star Trek is a multiverse now so maybe both are true lol
I like how this looks guys! 😊
Awesome! Love the detail.
According to the Starfleet Technical Manual, the Constitution class heavy cruisers were built with three sets of dual phaser banks(one bow, one port, one starboard) and two sets of photon torpedo launchers (one bow, one aft).
That document is pretty much the canon for the TOS era ships. Or at least, it was until the next generation came out. At which point, the next generation abandoned the past TOS canon.
When are we going to get more of these types of videos?!?! they're my favorite type that you produce!
They take a long time to make and with a separate 3rd perosn that does the LCARS graphics, he is not as far as we can be in house. OH and because we haven't increased out patreon support...no one is donating more to our channel really...so we cant fund new shows. We may set a goal at $1250 a month ($250 more than we have now) and be able to make them :) lots of great ships to look at! Support us on Patreon to see more!
Love the constitution class starship
Excellently done.
I think the only thing I would add in the future is some more data read outs related to the points you're currently discussing.
lol...enjoying these starfleets, too.
Yay! The Connie!
I love these kind of videos, keep it up guys
Now you have to update this video with the mirror universe Defiant.
If someone built a brand new Constitution refit from the keel up wouldn't it be "Enterprise Class" ? and only a surviving old Connie that was also refitted would be a Constitution II class. ? Also isn't the A called "Enterprise Class" (at least some of the time) suggesting it was a new build (before it was renamed Enterprise A)
Yes, and yes.
Something weird is going on with the perspective on those rotating views.
Its a tricky to find the exact center point of this ship for the rotations...i got close but yes it is still a little off :)
They're orthographic renders, so objects do not appear larger or smaller depending on their distance.
orthographic perspective does not have a vanishing point (think an old school RTS type game)
Are you talking about the running lights on the rear top portion of the secondary hull? It looks like they are visible through the warp nacelle support struts as the model spins. Just curious what sort of setting it is in whatever program Samuel is using for the 3D modeling he does.
I hope he won't think that I'm giving him a hard time about the render. I am just simply curious. I really am envious of his renders and animations. Overall, they look awesome! :) I really need to learn how to do 3D modeling. Seems like I recall Sam saying that he used Lightwave? I'm probably wrong, so don't quote me on that one! ;) :P But, I have dabbled a bit with it. Nothing of consequence or any real significance, though. :/
Still one of my favs of the fleet!
I'm really disappointed that there wasn't more talk about the internal layout of the ship, such the bridge, engineering, sickbay, etc. It would have been nice to see some panoramic views of these areas as well.
we dont have 3D models of those interior spaces, these videos are exclusively a short bite sized yet very detailed look at these ships. Short being the operative word as opposed to our other main long form content. When we get to the detailed connie episode it will have all those details and likely be over 1hr long.
Arguably the most important design of Federation Star Ships!
any chance we can see an episode looking at the terran empire dreadnought in armarda 3. really interesting design on the sovereign class
Very informative I enjoyed this.
What LCARS is this? I think it might be first contact era but I'm not sure.
Its Nemesis as they returned to the blues of ST6.
Ok thanks!
are you guys going to do the salidin class ?
Just wondering about the"rust ring" and "weatherizing". Are that Starfleet repairs or indeed weathering from space? What do you think? I'm building the tos 350 and need ideas. 🖖🍀
This is the USS Defiant model from into a mirror darkley...so...its been though the ringers a bit...hence more weathering. It is also an updated version of the Connie design since she has slight azteching and aft weapons.
Going to the Smithsonian next week to see the big E and take lots of photos. Have a bunch of detail shots from 1979 but she was hanging from the ceiling. And my camera at the time was a POS. The upper saucer has lots of painting detail I intend to match. Thanks again guys 🖖
Charles Byington most of the TOS footage was either washed out for lighting or fuzzy from pans and zooms. The remastered looks sweet but not studio accurate. I'll let you know. I'm less then 1 hr drive to D.C. so I'll have time to explore details.
@Linda and Brian Kruse: Was just at the Smithsonian to see the E, and the model currently has no upper detailing on it. It's a flat green-grey paint. You can see some of my shots here: www.flickr.com/photos/101262365@N08/30938742130/in/datetaken-public/
I'm liking the detail on the remastered CG model though. The slight aztecing looks nice.
Dot Matrix ooookaaaay!
How about the of the uss enterprise ncc-1701 verses the uss discovery ncc-1031 in a all out ship to ship fight?
What's your stance on the theory that the USS Constitution (NCC-1700) was the second vessel in that class to carry the name in order to explain why ships like the USS Constellation (NCC-1017), USS Republic (NCC-1371), USS Intrepid (NCC-1631), USS Exeter (NCC-1672), etc all have lower registry numbers than the class leader?
This is where Franz Joseph's registry numbers should have been used. Considering that the producers just rearranged the digits for the _Constellation_ (1017 is an anagram of 1701), they could have went with 1710 instead (thus keeping the registry line consistent).
how long until the full episode on the Connie in episode 50 you said that it was coming out around the 50th anniversary?
we hoped to do many of the big ships for the 50th but the Galaxy took a LONG time to produce and made it tricky to produce all of the other shows...plus 2 work trips aboard...new guests...and Fleetyards...time just got away from us :)
A datafile is like a Trekyards Digest.
She's truly beautiful, my all time favorite !
From A to Z, I don't really care, for me this is the REAL Enterprise !
Still the very BEST LOOKING Starships than any other design they came out with, the Constitution Class Starships have always been the best, always WILL be the very best out there.
It's been established that the original design of the delta emblems was not, as you state here, specifically for Enterprise with each ship having its own, but rather was the general Starfleet insignia (www.startrek.com/article/starfleet-insignia-explained).
LOL The subtitles on this are funny
Excellent and far more accurate.
According to Star Trek Voyager the Enterprise returned from its 5 year mission in 2270 Kirk did not log a single star hour for 2.5 years after according to ST-TMP so the refit launched in 2273
Excellent
could you do one of the ss botany bay
Where are the phaser banks? Torpedo tubes? Lol. That is still one thing that bugs me about this ship, even with the CG model, the ship never got any visible ports, weapons, or nacelle lighting (like Gene originally planned for).
Yeah, they're "there", but not visible. The Defiant was firing torpedoes from the sensor dome in "In a Mirror". The shot were it destroyed the Avenger looked terrible.
and i thought i was lonely
One thing i will never understand about Star Trek is how low crew compliment is. I mean Constitution is 288,8 m long and has only 430 crew but Nimitz Class aircaft carrier is 332,8 m long and has crew compliment up and above 5000.
Yes but in comparison the brand new Gerald Ford carriers have less than the crew of the Nimitz class. A fully-staffed Ford-class carrier has a crew of about 800 or so less staff than a Nimitz. That's nearly 20% less crew in the span of about 40 years. Just remember that an extensive array of common, menial tasks aboard a starship are automated. Things like food preparation, cleaning, basic repairs, and day-to-day operational tasks are largely automated and handled by various computer and ship systems, eliminating the need for a large service staff which would otherwise be idle most of the day.
yea you got the point here
Plus 2,480 of the roughly 5,000 crew members of a Nimitz class carrier are part of the ship's air wing.
A better comparison would be to the old Iowa class battleships which had a crew of 2,700 when first commissioned in the 1940s, but by the 1980s the standard crew was 1,800.
Well a good bit of the Constituion class starship's length is the warp nacelles. The actual inhabitable area is not that sizeable. Also an aircraft carrier exists within the Earth's atmosphere so there is no worry about oxygen supply and they can resupply with food, water etc relatively easily. Life support and supplies on a starship designed for deep space missions can handle far fewer crew.
Other responses are on point, but also: naval ships don't go on 5 year deployments, either. That calls for more attention paid to crew comfort than is needed for a 6 month stint.
What's "old warp scale"?
Nevermind. Looked it up and it made me angry.
Might as well say "pre bad writing scale".
Huh? The TNG makes sense as well, as depicted in the TNG technical manual -- the warp factors being power thresholds.
According to Memory Alpha the official "new warp scale" is defined in the Voyager series, where warp 10 is infinite speed that turns you into a salamander because reasons. Terrible lazy dumb writing.
The lizard thing has nothing to do with the scale...
That's not what Memory Alpha says.
Anyway the lizard thing is the terrible writing.
The lazy dumb writing is to say the scale of speed goes from an insignificant amount (on the cosmic scale) to infinite at ten. It's both dumb and lazy both on the level of basic logic and basic story structure.
Couldnt it go Warp 14?
replace warp core to sliptime engine, that's would up to warp 14.
fantastic ::: :
I always thought Connies had 21 decks instead of 23.
Originally 23 (remember the tall bridge module in the 2 pilots).
the classic!
Man, that ship got old. Weapons only being fired from one area, warp 6 being the maximum safe speed. It will always be my favorite but It just doesn't hold up to the newer ones like Voyager or Prometheus
ok and now the version from the reboot movies
we will cover it!
The only known ships of this class that were destroyed were the USS Excalibur during the M5 Wargames and the USS Constellation by the Doomsday Machine and the USS Hood in star trek Continues Embracing The Winds via a Warp Core Containment Failure. As for the fate of the Potemkin,Crazy Horse and Lexington well mm those ships were most likely mothballed or left crippled drifts aswell.
Plus the USS Intrepid to the space amoeba in "The Immunity Syndrome"
FLAME4564 the TOS defiant disappeared in a parallel dimension in the "tholian web" with their crew massacred maybe this isn't destroyed but it's definitely gone
Flathead Gg244 the tos defiant cross over to the mirror universe in the 22nd century.
The _Defiant's_ crew weren't massacred. The crew killed each other due to the effects of interphasic space on their brains.
They really messed up the registry numbers on these ships... (I'm looking at you, Constellation and Eagle)
That neck and pontoons look very flimsy. I am not sure we will see very much of this ship.
👍👍👍👍👍
She's a beaut!
Nitpicks. Not of TrekYards. General usage. NCC-1701. Sector 001. I usually hear the "0" as "oh's" in the Enterprise designation. I think even the borg used this, but everyone used zero for the Earth sector. NCC-OneSevenZeroOne. Sector ZeroZeroOne.
we are English and Canadian respectably...we say some things differently ^.^ and since English was invented by the English..maybe i say it right ;)
In STV it mentions N C C - One Seven Zero One Alpha
Borg said in "BOBW": U.S.S. Enterprise, NCC- one, seven, zero, one, D."
Looks rather simplistic.
I hate this ...'old scale' they try and push as cannon. warp 9 is warp 9 whether in TOS or TNG.
It's confusing, but then Scottie says the engines are at Warp 14 and my head explodes.