Thank you for this video. I will not be at the national convention this. I desired to go initially, but this month I must focus on our VBS and I tend to have many in the hospital and very ill. I will be at the Florida Baptist Convention this year. This problem we have today in our convention and found throughout Christianity today has multiple sources. If I were to summarize I would say it has a large portion in our weak school in the SBC. When I was in seminary many of my professors denied the inerrancy of the Bible. This was a problem that has taken hold in our denomination. Today, whether leaders claim the Bible as inerrant or not does not matter as much as the leader believing the Bible is sufficient. I do hold to the inerrancy of the Bible, but I also believe it is totally sufficient. We are in a mess that is complicated, but over the course of many years we have complicated our setting today. The standard should be what did God desire us to know from the text of the Bible, not necessarily what a certain culture understands the text to be. The Bible and its message is above what our culture states. If our culture agrees with the Word, then it is acceptable, but if not follow the Bible. We have hit the time in our denomination of, "It does not matter what I say, watch what I do. The doing is what is the truth." Many times our leaders words are not what is truly happening. Sincerely, Dr. George Fredericks
Praying that y'all get the chance to meet the abolitionists that are going to be there, brothers. If you are very supportive against critical race theory, surely you would need to be for the immediate and complete abolition of human abortion. I'm in Florida. I would love to talk to you both about this, kind brothers.
Could we please restore polygamy to Christianity? Monogamy is rooted in Gnosticism and Romanism/Greek culture. Martin Luther knew this and permited polygamy twice. Too many good men are forced to adultry and lying because official position of the church is monogamy.
The first polygamist in Scripture is the evil Lamech. Further, those holy men that engaged in polygamy were often greatly troubled because of it (judgement). Jesus Christ taught the original order. One man, one woman. Paul, Christ's apostle, also taught this in his pastoral epistles. God bless.
When Nathan confronted David (2 Sam12), he said, "“This is what the Lord God of Israel says: I anointed you king over Israel and rescued you from Saul. I gave you your master Saul’s house and his wives." If God's standard was strict, absolute monogamy, how could he have given Saul's wives to David? The cases made for monogamy tend to be from inference, rather than an explicit command.
@@jimdewitt323 To your standard, there is no explicit command from God that polygamy is okay. But I would say we have explicit teaching in the New Testament from both Jesus and Paul. Paul more notably mentions 1 man 1 wife in the pastoral epistles. Furthermore, his writing in 1 Cor. 7 also has singular forms the whole way through and the teaching gets problematic once you start trying to fit polygamy into the instructions given there. This holds true for every place marriage is spoken of in the apostles' writings. If polygamy were a thing for Christians do you not think we would get instruction on it from the apostles given that they give several instructions to couples on how marriage is to operate? Also, consider how exactly one is to marry another woman while currently married to another. How does he not offend the honour of his wife and not look at another woman with lust prior to marrying the second woman? Unless these are arranged marriages, the man must necessarily commit adultery in the heart in order to have a second wife (then add on with every added wife). To your brought up Scripture. Let us consider a few things. First, there is a direct command against kings being polygamists: 'He shall not multiply wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away; nor shall he greatly increase silver and gold for himself' (Dt. 17:17). As to your brought up passage the point is that God gave everything of Saul to David. There is no indication that he married any of Saul's wives. We know who his wives were. It is a major stretch to say that David married Saul's wives and therefore we should have polygamy today. Hope this helps.
How can something be restored that was never present at the beginning? The New Testament requirement for elders/pastors/bishops was to be the husband of one wife (Titus 2:6, 1Timothy 3:2) Paul wrote using the singular "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." 1 Corinthians 7:2 Every reference to marriage in the New Testament assumes one husband married to one wife. Jesus himself described the one man and one woman marriage "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, for this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife" Matthew 19:4-5. So where does @andre Howard get the idea of restoring "Christian polygamy" if Jesus himself said marriage is monogamy? Please read your Bible more before "restoring" anything.
@10:31 I laughed so hard and watched it three times over. Bless you, brothers, for your faithful ministry. See you in Nashville.
The “intersection” we should use is how a fallen person “intersects” with the autonomy or Theonomy.
Thank you all for all you do. To God be the glory. Looking forward to all the future content.
Thank you for this video. I will not be at the national convention this. I desired to go initially, but this month I must focus on our VBS and I tend to have many in the hospital and very ill. I will be at the Florida Baptist Convention this year. This problem we have today in our convention and found throughout Christianity today has multiple sources. If I were to summarize I would say it has a large portion in our weak school in the SBC. When I was in seminary many of my professors denied the inerrancy of the Bible. This was a problem that has taken hold in our denomination. Today, whether leaders claim the Bible as inerrant or not does not matter as much as the leader believing the Bible is sufficient. I do hold to the inerrancy of the Bible, but I also believe it is totally sufficient. We are in a mess that is complicated, but over the course of many years we have complicated our setting today. The standard should be what did God desire us to know from the text of the Bible, not necessarily what a certain culture understands the text to be. The Bible and its message is above what our culture states. If our culture agrees with the Word, then it is acceptable, but if not follow the Bible. We have hit the time in our denomination of, "It does not matter what I say, watch what I do. The doing is what is the truth." Many times our leaders words are not what is truly happening. Sincerely, Dr. George Fredericks
Praying that y'all get the chance to meet the abolitionists that are going to be there, brothers. If you are very supportive against critical race theory, surely you would need to be for the immediate and complete abolition of human abortion. I'm in Florida. I would love to talk to you both about this, kind brothers.
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Could we please restore polygamy to Christianity? Monogamy is rooted in Gnosticism and Romanism/Greek culture. Martin Luther knew this and permited polygamy twice. Too many good men are forced to adultry and lying because official position of the church is monogamy.
The first polygamist in Scripture is the evil Lamech. Further, those holy men that engaged in polygamy were often greatly troubled because of it (judgement). Jesus Christ taught the original order. One man, one woman. Paul, Christ's apostle, also taught this in his pastoral epistles. God bless.
When Nathan confronted David (2 Sam12), he said, "“This is what the Lord God of Israel says: I anointed you king over Israel and rescued you from Saul. I gave you your master Saul’s house and his wives." If God's standard was strict, absolute monogamy, how could he have given Saul's wives to David? The cases made for monogamy tend to be from inference, rather than an explicit command.
Jesus created marriage. He demands monogamy. Nothing causes adultery except for man's sinful heart.
@@jimdewitt323 To your standard, there is no explicit command from God that polygamy is okay. But I would say we have explicit teaching in the New Testament from both Jesus and Paul. Paul more notably mentions 1 man 1 wife in the pastoral epistles. Furthermore, his writing in 1 Cor. 7 also has singular forms the whole way through and the teaching gets problematic once you start trying to fit polygamy into the instructions given there. This holds true for every place marriage is spoken of in the apostles' writings. If polygamy were a thing for Christians do you not think we would get instruction on it from the apostles given that they give several instructions to couples on how marriage is to operate?
Also, consider how exactly one is to marry another woman while currently married to another. How does he not offend the honour of his wife and not look at another woman with lust prior to marrying the second woman? Unless these are arranged marriages, the man must necessarily commit adultery in the heart in order to have a second wife (then add on with every added wife).
To your brought up Scripture. Let us consider a few things. First, there is a direct command against kings being polygamists: 'He shall not multiply wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away; nor shall he greatly increase silver and gold for himself'
(Dt. 17:17). As to your brought up passage the point is that God gave everything of Saul to David. There is no indication that he married any of Saul's wives. We know who his wives were. It is a major stretch to say that David married Saul's wives and therefore we should have polygamy today. Hope this helps.
How can something be restored that was never present at the beginning? The New Testament requirement for elders/pastors/bishops was to be the husband of one wife (Titus 2:6, 1Timothy 3:2) Paul wrote using the singular "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." 1 Corinthians 7:2 Every reference to marriage in the New Testament assumes one husband married to one wife. Jesus himself described the one man and one woman marriage "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, for this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife" Matthew 19:4-5. So where does @andre Howard get the idea of restoring "Christian polygamy" if Jesus himself said marriage is monogamy? Please read your Bible more before "restoring" anything.