Finally...been waiting forever for this review...I am running the Ethos, Focus, and motion 20s, FXs and motion 4s and AFX ...powered by the Yamaha 5200, Parasound A31 and Emotiva XPA9
Love this review! After switching from KEF T 301 and 101 system. Im running an ESL C18 for my center and a SLM XL for my front left/ right. Im running the SLM for the remaining 6 bed layer and 6 SLM for atoms. Also 2 SVS PB 16 ultra and 2 SVS PB 13 ultras with 4 buttkickers with an Anthem AVM 70, and 2 Outlaw 7000 amp plus peachtree amp. I LOVE IT!!! It sounds AWESOME!!! Videos coming soon. Also Panasonic UB9000 and OPPO UDP203
Huge fan of your Martin Logan content! I own a pair of ESL 11 A, just love them. Keep this stuff coming, I also enjoyed your talk with the ML product manager 2 years ago, very interesting insights into the tech. Regards from Germany
Nice review! I have the ESL X and was deciding between these and the ESL X and with the X. They sound great and use them for two channel application however when I watch movies and play games the sound on the speakers are so crisp and detailed. Loved your review on the X also and it did help me on the purchase.
I walked into an audio store in Atlanta 20 years ago and they had Martin Logan Electostats powered by Krell amps in the room with a single chair in the center or the room. I popped in Steely Dan and still remember the joyful feeling of sitting in that chair. It was life changing for me. I had some Motion 40's for about 5 years (wish I still had them). The folded motion tweeter was another component that my ears really liked...smooth as silk. I will have some electrostats again if I can ever get home from working overseas...BIG fan! Look forward to hearing how my Outlaw Audio 7220 will make them sing.
Speaker manufacturer should have one ir two models in their model lineup that is electrostatic. They would sell well due to the awesome sound they produce.
@@therealshanelee sounds good. one thing I am still do not know why all martin logan center channel using ribbon tweeter while all the front electrostatic speaker none of them using any ribbon tweeter.
@@therealshanelee yes, this thing always get me thinking. I have a question for you, it is a little off from this topic. If you rate your trinnov 10 (10 best and 1 worst) how you rate xmc2, considering everything else the same such as speakers, amp,etc. I am very curious.
I just picked up a pair of the ESL 9’s and C18 and I am debating between the FX2’s or EFX’s for surrounds. The price point of the EFX’s is obviously much higher but how would you rate the FX2’s in that setup?
Are the rear surrounds using the “surround” or “back” speakers output from the receiver/processor? Which one, in your opinion, is best when you can only use one set for the rears? Or do they play identical audio tracks? Thanks in advance
Nice video. Especially like the center channel speaker. The 30° curve and being so wide it's got to be nice. I looked through all your videos and maybe I missed it but have you done DSP related videos. Seems that with all the speakers in this video it would be of interest to know what applying DSP would do. Aside from smoothing the curves I think the biggest benefit is aligning or synching the time for each of the speakers - to me this would seem to really enhance clarity.
I’ve adjusted levels and delays. I don’t like to alter the sound of the speakers I review with dsp. I’d rather them stand on their own without me tinkering.
Which Series Emotiva amp were you using? 2 or 3? I have had shops tell me you cant get great sound from ML ESL's with Monolith or Emotiva Said the amp needs to do 1 ohm loads. Claimed Anthem would work but suggested others. He did not sell Anthem. Looking at SLR 9 or 11's
@SpareChange great review! I have been considering upgrading from the Aerius i's to the Classic ESL 9. If you have heard the Aerius i, I'm interested in your perspective on how the Classic 9's are superior.
You need to listen to them first. Gayle is no longer with the company so I wouldn't count on them having a similar sonic signature. If you come across a good used pair of SL3's, Request, Prodigy, etc..., get them if the price is right. (I'm assuming you like the Aerius.)
You absolutely can not tell what an electrostat sounds like over a TH-cam video. I know this because I have them in front of me as well as the uncompressed recording. There is No comparison.
It’s certainly not ideal, but you can hear their range and color. Here is a youtube that compares several and each is distinct m.th-cam.com/video/_A5F992xy3Q/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for review! I have always liked ML electrostat speaker design and for tha reason I have always wanted a pair but unfortunately I have never been really impressed by their sound. I think they play fast as hell and are very detailed but their tonality don't fit my ears at all. They sound way too bright for my ears it was like looking directly at the sun but for my ears. But this was a couple of years ago so thing might have changed, idk. Also the space needed for them to really shine hasn't been available for me. But cool difference between Focal and ML center speaker.
Did u hook up ur kaleidascape with one hdmi or with the 2 separate hdmi outs I can’t get my kscape to display video thru my xmc2 so had to hook it up directly to my projector on the hdmi 2 input
Apple: As a ML owner, I can speak to using electrostats in HT. If one has a room that allows for placing electrostats 2-3’ from the walls, it would be a phenomenal experience. Therein lies the problem with the center channel as the on-wall timbre is different than off-wall. Placing three ESL behind an AT screen could work, but care must be taken to ensure proper placement. Orange: IMO, the Perlisten are more conducive to HT placement based upon their design and performance. While I have no direct experience hearing the Perlisten brand, I have heard enough reviews to know they are special and measure well. So which is better: the apple or the orange? The answer is and will always be what works best for one’s room. If you love ML ESL and always wanted that, you will find a way to make it work a la Shane’s LR example. It would be quite difficult to navigate Shane’s HT room with ML 2-3’ off-wall, thereby making the Perlisten the logical choice (presuming one has the @SpareChange 😉).
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Finally...been waiting forever for this review...I am running the Ethos, Focus, and motion 20s, FXs and motion 4s and AFX ...powered by the Yamaha 5200, Parasound A31 and Emotiva XPA9
Martin Logan the GOAT
Shane always has the good stuff in for review
🥂
Love this review! After switching from KEF T 301 and 101 system. Im running an ESL C18 for my center and a SLM XL for my front left/ right. Im running the SLM for the remaining 6 bed layer and 6 SLM for atoms. Also 2 SVS PB 16 ultra and 2 SVS PB 13 ultras with 4 buttkickers with an Anthem AVM 70, and 2 Outlaw 7000 amp plus peachtree amp. I LOVE IT!!! It sounds AWESOME!!! Videos coming soon. Also Panasonic UB9000 and OPPO UDP203
Nice to see the SLM's getting some love. Post those vids so I can check out the space 🍻
Huge fan of your Martin Logan content! I own a pair of ESL 11 A, just love them. Keep this stuff coming, I also enjoyed your talk with the ML product manager 2 years ago, very interesting insights into the tech. Regards from Germany
Nice review! I have the ESL X and was deciding between these and the ESL X and with the X. They sound great and use them for two channel application however when I watch movies and play games the sound on the speakers are so crisp and detailed. Loved your review on the X also and it did help me on the purchase.
These dig deeper than the X but sound similar.
I walked into an audio store in Atlanta 20 years ago and they had Martin Logan Electostats powered by Krell amps in the room with a single chair in the center or the room. I popped in Steely Dan and still remember the joyful feeling of sitting in that chair. It was life changing for me.
I had some Motion 40's for about 5 years (wish I still had them). The folded motion tweeter was another component that my ears really liked...smooth as silk.
I will have some electrostats again if I can ever get home from working overseas...BIG fan!
Look forward to hearing how my Outlaw Audio 7220 will make them sing.
Speaker manufacturer should have one ir two models in their model lineup that is electrostatic. They would sell well due to the awesome sound they produce.
3:30 jc1+ in the back 😍
😉
nice.... I am my self using Ethos for fronts, stage x center, and 2 pairs electromotion esl, and for atmos using 2 pairs of FX2.
Must sound awesome.
@@therealshanelee sounds good. one thing I am still do not know why all martin logan center channel using ribbon tweeter while all the front electrostatic speaker none of them using any ribbon tweeter.
@@1psxpat I thought about that too. Maybe cause it's in a sealed enclosure? I'll have to ask.
@@therealshanelee yes, this thing always get me thinking. I have a question for you, it is a little off from this topic. If you rate your trinnov 10 (10 best and 1 worst) how you rate xmc2, considering everything else the same such as speakers, amp,etc. I am very curious.
I just picked up a pair of the ESL 9’s and C18 and I am debating between the FX2’s or EFX’s for surrounds. The price point of the EFX’s is obviously much higher but how would you rate the FX2’s in that setup?
Is there a huge difference between this and the esl? Do you think the esl provide a Holographic sound?
Great job
Are the rear surrounds using the “surround” or “back” speakers output from the receiver/processor? Which one, in your opinion, is best when you can only use one set for the rears? Or do they play identical audio tracks? Thanks in advance
Nice video. Especially like the center channel speaker. The 30° curve and being so wide it's got to be nice. I looked through all your videos and maybe I missed it but have you done DSP related videos. Seems that with all the speakers in this video it would be of interest to know what applying DSP would do. Aside from smoothing the curves I think the biggest benefit is aligning or synching the time for each of the speakers - to me this would seem to really enhance clarity.
I’ve adjusted levels and delays. I don’t like to alter the sound of the speakers I review with dsp. I’d rather them stand on their own without me tinkering.
Would you do these esl 9s or 805 d4? Combo of music, movies, games
What amplifier/s are you powering those with?
Which Series Emotiva amp were you using? 2 or 3? I have had shops tell me you cant get great sound from ML ESL's with Monolith or Emotiva Said the amp needs to do 1 ohm loads. Claimed Anthem would work but suggested others. He did not sell Anthem. Looking at SLR 9 or 11's
Thank you
@SpareChange great review! I have been considering upgrading from the Aerius i's to the Classic ESL 9. If you have heard the Aerius i, I'm interested in your perspective on how the Classic 9's are superior.
You need to listen to them first. Gayle is no longer with the company so I wouldn't count on them having a similar sonic signature. If you come across a good used pair of SL3's, Request, Prodigy, etc..., get them if the price is right. (I'm assuming you like the Aerius.)
You may not know this, but if you record while the speakers are playing we can get a really good idea of what they sound like in person.
You absolutely can not tell what an electrostat sounds like over a TH-cam video. I know this because I have them in front of me as well as the uncompressed recording. There is No comparison.
It’s certainly not ideal, but you can hear their range and color. Here is a youtube that compares several and each is distinct
m.th-cam.com/video/_A5F992xy3Q/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for review!
I have always liked ML electrostat speaker design and for tha reason I have always wanted a pair but unfortunately I have never been really impressed by their sound. I think they play fast as hell and are very detailed but their tonality don't fit my ears at all. They sound way too bright for my ears it was like looking directly at the sun but for my ears. But this was a couple of years ago so thing might have changed, idk. Also the space needed for them to really shine hasn't been available for me. But cool difference between Focal and ML center speaker.
Did u hook up ur kaleidascape with one hdmi or with the 2 separate hdmi outs I can’t get my kscape to display video thru my xmc2 so had to hook it up directly to my projector on the hdmi 2 input
No problems going into HDMI on mine.
@@therealshanelee thanks. Maybe it’s my cable 🤷🏻♂️
Most likely.
Why is it so expensive to put transparent food film between two perforated sheet metal plate ?
If it was easy everyone would be doing it.
Did you try using the ESL 9 as surrounds?
It'd need more space for it to sound good back there.
How far away from the wall would they have to be placed
These are about 3ft.
In your opinion which one do think is better MartinLogan EL Home
Theater or the PERLISTEN THX Dominus Home Theater?
Two totally different sounding systems. Apples and Oranges.
@@therealshanelee What do you like more? Apples or Oranges? :P
@@therealshanelee so what's your personal opinion? and why?
Apple: As a ML owner, I can speak to using electrostats in HT. If one has a room that allows for placing electrostats 2-3’ from the walls, it would be a phenomenal experience. Therein lies the problem with the center channel as the on-wall timbre is different than off-wall. Placing three ESL behind an AT screen could work, but care must be taken to ensure proper placement.
Orange: IMO, the Perlisten are more conducive to HT placement based upon their design and performance. While I have no direct experience hearing the Perlisten brand, I have heard enough reviews to know they are special and measure well.
So which is better: the apple or the orange? The answer is and will always be what works best for one’s room. If you love ML ESL and always wanted that, you will find a way to make it work a la Shane’s LR example. It would be quite difficult to navigate Shane’s HT room with ML 2-3’ off-wall, thereby making the Perlisten the logical choice (presuming one has the @SpareChange 😉).
@@SealedOrPorted makes sense!:)
Hi sir
I guess its ok for a secondary system…..if you have no other options…
Ouch
-my wallet