0:20 - Explanation for Hard and Soft Consonants in Russian 3:04 - Russian Consonants that are always hard 3:47 - Russian Consonants that are always soft 📌 Transcript to the video: www.linkedin.com/pulse/learn-russian-consonants-syllables-hard-vs-soft-pt2-misuraghina/?published=t 👆 This video is a part of a guided plan for learning Russian: th-cam.com/play/PLpgpVaWoAiTEF8aNQvPnFCLBrtIeF3tqa.html
This is exactly what I deduced by myself a few days ago: I heard the word день in a song I thought that -нь sounded almost exact to ñ (I speak spanish natively). This video confirmed my thought, thanks!
Bulgarian doesnt. Bulgarian doesnt have soft and hard signs. In Bulgarian, all the consonants naturally have a hard sign, and they can be softened only by the letter/vowel that is after them. So yeah , Bulgarian is the Slavic language with the least amount of palatalization overall
EXCELLENT ! I have struggled with the palitalization of consonants for almost ten years, and every time I think I have it figured out, I realize I do NOT have it figured out ! Would you consider doing a video on how to write Russian using the pre-Revolution spellings, uspecially the Ѣ ? Greetings from the US. Боже Х аря Храни !
I think the most confusing thing is the fact that they're called hard and soft consonants. Implying that the sound of the consonant changes when it actually doesn't, you just add a vowel sound to the consonant.
Actually, it is the sound of a consonant that changes. There're examples of hard vs soft consonants in the next lesson. The soft consonants sound kind of childish, if I may say so: th-cam.com/video/4cSgPpqQ2Z8/w-d-xo.html
I have found it helpful to realize that Old Slavonic had "fuill words," i.e. the pattern was CVCV or VCVC, whereas in modern RU some of those intermediate vowels ahve been elided, both phonologically and orthographically. The RU hard and soft signs represent the vestigal remains of those elided vowels. A somewhat good explanation of this is in Prof. Horace G. Lunt's book Old Church Slavonic Grammar, 7th ed, 2001, and in his masterful (but very complex) monograph, Progressive Palatalization in Common Slavic, publ. by the Macedonian Academy of Sciences and Arts, 1981.
Hi. In Russian, are the softening effect of the soft vowels and the soft sign to the preceding consonant considered equivalent? For example, does the word 'Мя' sound the same as 'МЬа'? And if a consonant is double-softened, like 'МЬя', how would it sound? I'm sorry that I can't find some real words to illustrate my questions more clearly.
Hey! You're absolutely right about the first part of your question. In the pairs like МА - МЯ visually, it's the vowel that is different; but actually, the vowel sound is the same sound A, the difference is in the hard vs soft consonant. So yes, Russian hypothetically, could have a different system, instead of vowels that signal us how to pronounce the preceding consonant (МА - МЯ), we could write pairs like this: МА - МЬА, with some sign indicating to read М soft. While МЬЯ is a different story, Ь here signals us to read МЬ and Я as separate sounds. Here's more on that, it's a 20 minute lesson that covers the 2d part of your question (the difference in what МЯ - МЬЯ sound like): th-cam.com/video/76Zqi9to-yc/w-d-xo.html
Confused by "the й disappears after a consonant." Isn't мю still "myu" because the ю softens the consonant "m?" You still hear that й sound. Or am I missing something?
Wait, I think I may have just got it. The Russian vowels are А, Э, О, У, Ы. The soft versions of those vowels (that soften a preceding consonant) are Я, Е, Ё, Ю, И. Those vowels have the Й sound, it's literally the normal vowel plus Й. So you hear it when softening a consonant. However, if it's a normal consonant (hard) you omit the Й and go back to А, Э, О, У, Ы. Извините, for the huge comment. Lol
Right! That’s what I was just about to say. Only when those vowels follow a constant, the consonant becomes soft, but the Й sound goes away 👍🤗 And И doesn’t have a Й sound in it at all.
it is, all the vowels from the right column soften consonants (except those three that are always hard). Check out the next lesson to compare hard vs soft: th-cam.com/video/4cSgPpqQ2Z8/w-d-xo.html
There is a great blogger who can help you to learn more about the difference between russian and english sounds - PhoneticFanatic. He is a true master! He usually teaches English pronunciation to Russian speakers, but here he talks about soft and hard consonants: th-cam.com/video/guIiad8mT2Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MSvUU2RLB2UJdjwu&t=13m55s And here he compares english and russian vowels: th-cam.com/video/XW-kC7ziIvI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XLMMD-ajHqSyIkxD All the videos on his channel are in russian, but they have subtitles
I like it, it’s nerdy 😁 still, you want to focus on practice, theory is good for continuing students. getting stuck on it at the very beginning might get you into a trap of fake progress, or even be demotivating
0:20 - Explanation for Hard and Soft Consonants in Russian
3:04 - Russian Consonants that are always hard
3:47 - Russian Consonants that are always soft
📌 Transcript to the video: www.linkedin.com/pulse/learn-russian-consonants-syllables-hard-vs-soft-pt2-misuraghina/?published=t
👆 This video is a part of a guided plan for learning Russian: th-cam.com/play/PLpgpVaWoAiTEF8aNQvPnFCLBrtIeF3tqa.html
3:57 - "You would always read them as cha sha chu shu, and never cha sha chu shu"
I'm so lost right now. Great video btw
This is exactly what I deduced by myself a few days ago: I heard the word день in a song I thought that -нь sounded almost exact to ñ (I speak spanish natively). This video confirmed my thought, thanks!
This is a goldmine. Thank you so much for this structured lessons (not just this video)
You're outstanding, period.
Serbian also has a single letter Њ that sounds like НЬ in Russian and Ñ in Spanish.
Bulgarian doesnt. Bulgarian doesnt have soft and hard signs. In Bulgarian, all the consonants naturally have a hard sign, and they can be softened only by the letter/vowel that is after them. So yeah , Bulgarian is the Slavic language with the least amount of palatalization overall
"If you can't tell the difference between hard and soft, don't be too hard on yourself." Haha!
Que gusto cuándo hacen símiles con el español.
EXCELLENT ! I have struggled with the palitalization of consonants for almost ten years, and every time I think I have it figured out, I realize I do NOT have it figured out ! Would you consider doing a video on how to write Russian using the pre-Revolution spellings, uspecially the Ѣ ? Greetings from the US. Боже Х аря Храни !
Very awesome!!!!!!!!!thanks;!!!!!
very good explanation, pronunciation 👍👍 Thank you very much
Thanks. Clear and well-presented.
A brilliant explanation, большое спасибо)
Really good video explanation about the signs. thank you very much
So far the best video for understanding this topic. It gets right into the point. Thanks for this content. I really appreciate it 😁
СпасИбо, Осмио! I'm happy it helps!
Thank you 😊
I think the most confusing thing is the fact that they're called hard and soft consonants. Implying that the sound of the consonant changes when it actually doesn't, you just add a vowel sound to the consonant.
Actually, it is the sound of a consonant that changes. There're examples of hard vs soft consonants in the next lesson. The soft consonants sound kind of childish, if I may say so: th-cam.com/video/4cSgPpqQ2Z8/w-d-xo.html
I have found it helpful to realize that Old Slavonic had "fuill words," i.e. the pattern was CVCV or VCVC, whereas in modern RU some of those intermediate vowels ahve been elided, both phonologically and orthographically. The RU hard and soft signs represent the vestigal remains of those elided vowels. A somewhat good explanation of this is in Prof. Horace G. Lunt's book Old Church Slavonic Grammar, 7th ed, 2001, and in his masterful (but very complex) monograph, Progressive Palatalization in Common Slavic, publ. by the Macedonian Academy of Sciences and Arts, 1981.
Study about what is an yod inflection.
0:56 Why does the word for fire (огонь/ogon') end with a soft consonant then?
Wrong, the consonant actually changes and pronounced differently and it's not caused by a vowel.
In Greek there is something similar with Γ and Χ. Γάμος is hard, Γιατί is soft.
Is it like the u in ‘cute’?
You have great teaching skills. Every good gift comes from the Father of lights who also gave us His Son. James 1:17, John 3:16
Please leave your PERSONAL religion off TH-cam!
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Hi. In Russian, are the softening effect of the soft vowels and the soft sign to the preceding consonant considered equivalent? For example, does the word 'Мя' sound the same as 'МЬа'? And if a consonant is double-softened, like 'МЬя', how would it sound?
I'm sorry that I can't find some real words to illustrate my questions more clearly.
Hey!
You're absolutely right about the first part of your question. In the pairs like МА - МЯ visually, it's the vowel that is different; but actually, the vowel sound is the same sound A, the difference is in the hard vs soft consonant. So yes, Russian hypothetically, could have a different system, instead of vowels that signal us how to pronounce the preceding consonant (МА - МЯ), we could write pairs like this: МА - МЬА, with some sign indicating to read М soft.
While МЬЯ is a different story, Ь here signals us to read МЬ and Я as separate sounds.
Here's more on that, it's a 20 minute lesson that covers the 2d part of your question (the difference in what МЯ - МЬЯ sound like): th-cam.com/video/76Zqi9to-yc/w-d-xo.html
@@RussianComprehensive Thank you very much. It's such a quick and complete response.
Confused by "the й disappears after a consonant."
Isn't мю still "myu" because the ю softens the consonant "m?" You still hear that й sound. Or am I missing something?
Wait, I think I may have just got it. The Russian vowels are А, Э, О, У, Ы. The soft versions of those vowels (that soften a preceding consonant) are Я, Е, Ё, Ю, И. Those vowels have the Й sound, it's literally the normal vowel plus Й. So you hear it when softening a consonant. However, if it's a normal consonant (hard) you omit the Й and go back to А, Э, О, У, Ы.
Извините, for the huge comment. Lol
Right! That’s what I was just about to say. Only when those vowels follow a constant, the consonant becomes soft, but the Й sound goes away 👍🤗
And И doesn’t have a Й sound in it at all.
So the consonant is not softened by и?
All the other soft vowels changed П to pj and Б to bj but БИ was just pi
it is, all the vowels from the right column soften consonants (except those three that are always hard). Check out the next lesson to compare hard vs soft:
th-cam.com/video/4cSgPpqQ2Z8/w-d-xo.html
I really can not catch the different between the soft and the hard letters
Try this phonetic exercise: th-cam.com/video/4cSgPpqQ2Z8/w-d-xo.html
What is a constant?
There is a great blogger who can help you to learn more about the difference between russian and english sounds - PhoneticFanatic. He is a true master! He usually teaches English pronunciation to Russian speakers, but here he talks about soft and hard consonants:
th-cam.com/video/guIiad8mT2Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MSvUU2RLB2UJdjwu&t=13m55s
And here he compares english and russian vowels:
th-cam.com/video/XW-kC7ziIvI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XLMMD-ajHqSyIkxD
All the videos on his channel are in russian, but they have subtitles
I like it, it’s nerdy 😁 still, you want to focus on practice, theory is good for continuing students. getting stuck on it at the very beginning might get you into a trap of fake progress, or even be demotivating
I think it's channel is for spanish not others
... in Russian...
Dont compare with spanish🥲🥲🥲
We dont know spanish.
Who are you talking for?
I do.
Pls dont mention spanish!
Lol take a hike