When Quinton de Kok (South African cricketer) refused to “take the knee” for BLM in the World Cup he was abused and lambasted for it despite being from a mixed race family. He said it’s one thing to support something of your free will, another thing to be forced into it. He ended up getting dropped from the game against West Indies.
Why u assuming the whole England squad doesn’t agree with homophobia? Bigots so quick to slam Islam for denying western freedoms but actually they agree on a whole lot…
If you are going to protest you need to accept consequences, there’s no point protesting if you’re not willing to take the consequences. Muhammad Ali protested by refusing to fight in the Vietnam war; his belt was stripped and fines etc. but he stuck by his beliefs! People need to be willing to sacrifice if they want to protest against or for something, otherwise it’s just a fashion statement or meaningless gesture imo. Basically prorest ir don’t protest but don’t be wishy washy about it
@@drdasslerhe's not saying that though, is he?. Alexey Navalny said ' You may think you have principles, but unless you are willing to stand up for them and bear the consequences then they are not principles but just thoughts in your head'.
Because they don't believe in it, they just want to act self righteous for the plaudits but when faced with any resistance they crumble like a pack of cards
@@nehanabbasi9081 except that they don't exactly follow the rules of the countries they're in, can an openly gay man go walk into a mosque in England without persecution or ridicule? I very much doubt that
The key word here from Keane is, if you have the "belief" then go with it. I think many are being forced to believe rather than believing of their own volition.
@@mariia099 it's amazing how Qatar showed a middle finger to westerner hypocrites. World powers are shifting for good, your next generation ll spend their lifetime figuring out their gender so your future doesn't seem bright. We don't want your values (mental ill nesses) in other part of the world.
Absolutely spot on...when it comes to kneeling every match it costs them f--k all...but when someone threatens to give teem a yellow card...they've got a yellow streak down their backs as long as the pennine way. Principles go right out of the window when it comes down to me, me ,me.
Lets be honest a bit of the blame is on us We have allowed this shxt to go on for far too long They think they run the place You know I'm right being nice doesn't benefit anyone
@@Brooks1874 That doesnt have anything to do with that, my friend. If you stick to your beliefs you still have to accept the freedom of others as well. If your beliefs restrict the freedom of others, im not sure about those beliefs. Its not like some rainbow flags are hurting you.
Its not forcing beliefs, its preventing discrimination, you dont have the right to discriminate against fellow humans , you don't have the right to be a racist or a homophobe or a sexist @@Aerojet01
What do you mean? Why did you play in Russia and going to play in the US? There is no world where these two countries are more humane or haven't killed innocent people more than Qatar. This is just idiotic propaganda. So allegedly workers died in Qatar build the stadium? These construction companies overseeing the projects arent qatari even. Also last I checked, global powers like the US are slaving miners in congo (actually killing them) to mine their own resources for them and that is all good? Double standards. Hypocrisy.
While Britain and Western Europe slide into irrelevance on the world stage, the standard of living decreases, unhappiness and the quality of life worsens, we have these silly distractions to keep people occupied, as though the homosexual agenda were an important issue in most people's lives. It gives fools a reason to feel good about themselves, it undermines the cohesion of the nation, and it keeps people arguing about a trivial matter rather than address the real problems facing ordinary men and women.
Same with the black white stuff. Both black and white are surviving on food banks and sleeping in cold homes. Billionaires couldn’t care less about the colour of each other’s skin or beliefs, their skin is green and their belief is wealth. It’s the poor that end up at each other’s throats when they only have breadcrumbs between them
Yeah very irrelevant, Just having highest Living standards be it in Humans development index, Wage, security & Safety & having highest per capita an Average over 60,000 $ & Have strongest passport rating that can travel to more than 100 countries without Visas, Universal Healthcare, Job security etc........ I think it's enough for Qatar bot or Usual merica bubble living no passport Tv couch 🤳 traveller😅.
Football and all sport should be apolitical. Teams aren't protest movements. If you are unhappy with the politics, don't agree to play and stay at home. If you agree to play then just play the game and leave politicking to outsiders.
The captain's armband is to show the player is the captain not to show his beliefs. Just stick to football, Harry Kane is a good player and he should focus on the goals not the colour of the armband. Good decision by him
Sport and politics go hand in hand as soon as it was globalised and football being the biggest sport makes it also the most affected by politics lad. Now I know ur gonna say some crap about no its not but then I bet uve also mentioned how football is the most beautiful sport because it can help people come together like in world war 2 where they had a kick about so don't give me that crap about it not being political.
FIFA’s have introduced politics to world football with its decision to hold a tournament in a country which it’s beliefs date back to the stone ages! FIFA are answerable to know one now and there president has a free rein in that organisation so it’s to the players to make a stand….enough is enough!
@@ayushgurung8885 that is your problem LAD football should be about football maybe you haven’t noticed but it’s not just Muslim countries people that are filling those stadiums stands the vast majority of people going to a game of football or any sport with serious fan bases and rivalries are there to watch the game,support their team, go nuts and gloat when they win and cry and say they got lucky if they lose they do not care about any of this shit even if they do not morally agree with it
Football is also part of Life, So does the politics & everything. Arm band represents the support to Humans & Question the Mediaeval letterboxes on their treatment of womens & Humans rights. Isn't ironic u same batch that Go gaga 😭on everywhere when it's about belief 😅, Same happening here but just following 21st century & human decency of showing Support oppressed people. Btw Kane wear but Letterbox buddy Fifa board said no.
If someone wants to wear an armband that is about tolerance and compassion then that is fine. People should not have to wear anything they are uncomfortable with.
England were not banned from wearing rainbow armbands by Qatar. They were banned by FIFA who categorically doesn’t allow for political messages in games.
But it's double standards as usual. Russia banned but iSteal gennnocide not, even after the UN declared it a pariah state. The violent political BLM group was allowed to be plastered all over the EPL.
@@greglyons2526that alone doesn't make them tolerant. Russia allows LGBTQ players in their basketball league, but we all know thier attitude towards it.
Well then why did they make an issue out of it,only to back down because fifa honchos got scared of the quatarians, the sheep followers of football don't like rocking the boat,something's are bigger and far more important than football, like human rights, equality, and the treatment and safety of migrant worker's who built these big glossy stadiums.
it's amazing how Qatar showed a middle finger to westerner hypocrites. World powers are shifting for good, your next generation ll spend their lifetime figuring out their gender so your future doesn't seem bright. We don't want your values (mental ill nesses) in other part of the world.L
@@-k5703 Well if they don't like western hypocrites, why beg to have a tournament in their little precious country, knowing full well that the vast majority of football team's Participating in it, will be from these western hypocrite country's that you are referring to, if they don't like western values don't put yourself forward as a canidate then, they have absolutely no football history of any description, bonkers decision to hold it in the middle of a desert country.
@@conoconnor4375 it's a world cup, not "West Cup" or euro Cup. Such arrogance and ignorance in your post, if West got a problem who says they need to participate? World is made up of many countries and it doesn't revolve around western values so shov all that nonsense up where the sun doesn't shine. You come to play football, don't bring your nonsensical values with you, we don't give two Fs about your mental dis orders
Keep all politics ideology religion and sexuality, and charity from sport not everyone agrees with what they stand for its devisive it ruins the game and has no part being there.
That life though. You have to deal with it. Its not all about you. There are many things that i rather not see, so what. Its life. I rather not see all the ads packed on everywhere in sports.
Disagree, leave politics out of the game, if you don't like what they stand for , don't have the tournament there. Also Bale wold have been off the pitch and not won and scored that penalty. He was booked for a tackle which would then have been two yellows. Keane has become a virtue signalman, it took Wales 64 years to do this, and we have to listen to Captain Pugwash chatting nonsense, get a shave Clough would have told him and wind your neck in.
@@steaks652 No, Bale wouldn't necessarily have been off the pitch, because the game would have played out differently. If he got booked for wearing the armband it would have been a completely different game. Perhaps the Welsh team would have been angry and more fired up, and maybe they would have won the game 3-0 instead. _Any_ change during a game can completely change the outcome.
@@steaks652 You should probably do a bit more research on it then! Keane was complaining about the facilities (standing up for what he believed in), and he was "sent home" because of it, and the argument that followed.
@@steaks652 Mick literally said _"I sent him home"_ and if you want to hear it from the horse's mouth, then here you go: th-cam.com/video/3GzRbxQlHms/w-d-xo.html
No.. we won't send you to jail. Just don't do it. If you a foreigner and you over do it, we may deport you. .. Qatar didn't ban nor care about this BS.. FIFA have it own armbands and the rules says all captains has to wear FIFA's armbands (which has no rainbow crap on it). It's like showing up to Wimbledon with coloured clothes and complaining why they will not allow you to play. The rules say white-only cloths. Someone should defy that and wear rainbow attire to Wimbledon or other coloured cloths with BS excuse that white only is racism 😂.. We will see how whinny Brits will react.
any of these players that push this armband know well that it won't do their own financial agenda any harm wearing these things, ordinary fans walk pay into a footy stadium to leave the bullshit of society at the turnstyles
I remember when we had to fight like hell to get the poppy armband ban lifted. Don't really understand why they've allowed the gay pride stuff so freely up till now. Thought fifa's stance was "no political messages".
Thats the hypocrisy of the west. Back when Man city won the cup with mahrez scoring the winning goal, mahrez waved a palestinian flag in supports to them, guess who was fined because "politics and football are not to associate"... like children dying is political, but groomers wanting anal sex is support for human rights. Just a big hypocrisy.
Ukrainian flags are fine at football matches throughout world, Palestinian and Russian flags not so much. But yeah, not politics, unless it’s the politics we like
It's embarrassing several times I've been embarrassed by this shit by people abroad saying hey english gender gender people like you don't relise the damage your doing, l Britain is gay people actually said to me o yea everyone is gay ther telling ther friends like its a fact ,I swear first person I catch that's responsible I'm pulling ther ear n giving them a boot in the arse ,until I get an apology
Why no major protests for Olympics in China ? Real men and women would have protested that place but no too dodgy , so in my opinion STOP picking and choosing it’s ALL or nothing
So you have to protest against everything if you want to protest at all? Thats a cheap way to try to stop people from protesting. And has no logic behind it, of course.
Maybe he just doesn’t believe in it so did not wear it! Funny how these LGBT people talk about bullying but as soon as you are not agreeing to their beliefs you become the bullied.
England should just not bother with football and just invest that money in their LGBT support. Who gives a toss about ones sexual identify or friggin preferences? It's football, get on the damn pitch, play and get off. Sick of all these bs now.
@@katya5573 because gay people have been persecuted for a very long time and they seek to normalize it. They shouldn’t have to hide it. Plenty of straight people are very open about their straightness.
@@leonthethird7494 I didn’t know straight people get mad if u didn’t wear a “straight flag” arm band or force people to support them even if it ruined their careers..
Initial black player, captain and international captain (from the team that the first International stadium was built around (after both the inaugural men and women’s football internationals) was Andrew Watson of Scotland! In the 1800s ( Despite what the FA have been writing) They produced the ‘Scotch’ professors, the ‘beautiful’ passing game and football around the world eg Argentina and Brazil….. how things change! - they were overtaken big time- but we forget what it was about.
Hypocrite... seriously, you have no idea what you are talking about.. and yes, football sold it's soul to the devil a long time ago.. but then I guess you believe all phones and iPhones are clean with no blood on it as either... Just for the record I do not watch the bbc.
@@saeef123 you all know that’s not the case... Germany did it and nothing happened... but let’s say that is even the case... why fear if you know you do the right thing? What more beautiful dying defending humanity? It’s all BS, they know it’s a wrong thing therefore they won’t risk anything defending them... most you tubers are warned not to go to the World Cup or they get canceled... it’s so that they don’t expose the truth... once they show Qatar to the world everyone knows the west was bluffing for years...
@@saeef123 it's amazing how Qatar showed a middle finger to westerner hypocrites. World powers are shifting for good, your next generation ll spend their lifetime figuring out their gender so your future doesn't seem bright. We don't want your values (mental ill nesses) in other part of the world.
First time I’ve disagreed with Roy. Every Country has the right to govern themselves how they see fit. Who the hell are a bunch of footballers to go to a country and tell them they are wrong. Best protest is to not show up
@@haghuro9843 with all due respect Britain has no right to comment on that type of matter they did it more and in almost every country on earth they cannot pretent to be the saints of the world now if you say history does not matter then why do white people somehow owe every other race for atrocities hundreds of years old western culture ignores its own problem and constantly tells everybody else how they are wrong you are not making a difference or turning the world into a better place all you are doing is making the world people hate each other even more
Saudis murdered a journalist, the USA are protecting them. The USA destroyed Libya. Britain invaded Iraq in an illegal war. I'm not saying you are not right, but many of them cannot be pointing fingers. It's a complex issue. That said, this world cup from its core stinks of corruption, bought and paid for. So no surprise. An armband wasn't fixing any of that.
This is football. Such nonsense shouldn't be advertising in this beautiful game. that's it . Who feels it knows it every religion is against it and should not have been in football
@Greg Lyons just like how Jesus raised the dead and made a bird of clay and blew life into it, by the will of God. islam hadn't reached South India, but when the moon split even non Muslims witnessed it and reported it among whom was s Hindu king. Who later brought Islam
Critically he says: '... if that's what you believe' Are we supposed to imagine that 11 footballers all feel strongly about the issue let alone hold it up as a 'belief'? They are footballers. That's it. Its all quite silly and dubious.
England fi8tball team is full of hypocrisy. Henderson taking the Saudi doller. Southgate refusing to comment on it. Rice changing who he plays for same with grealish kane should of wore it not bottle it.
Keane comes out with some nonsense. Who are we to tell qataris how to live their lives? Who determines whats right and wrong? This is not my beautiful house. This is not my beautiful wife.
I don’t agree with a lot of the LGBT movement with the wearing of provocative clothing and BDSM shit in public. Saying that’s it’s not fucking woke to show solidarity with gay and trans people. They can’t choose their brains. If you think is it a choice and all gay/trans people are lying you live on moon IMO and misunderstand how complex our minds are. Trans people shouldn’t be in opposite sex sports and i don’t think they should use bathrooms that’s not the original biological sex (yet anyway). To dismiss them as just freaks is weak minded though. Easy to hate and judge, it takes strength to show compassion and understanding. What they go through must be hell.
Roy Keane is a closeted gay, i noticed that a long time ago. Nothing wrong with it, but he tries to hide it under the ''masculinity'' and football. But it's very obvious, he's like Kevin Spacey. Actually both Roy Keane and Kevin Spacey have very similar personalities. They're both posh, well-spoken, politely aggressive, sarcastic, rude.. They are not masculine men, but they're still dom/top, they like young boys. They are like soft predators, slimey and cunning. I bet Keane listens to classical music while doing his nails, looking at pictures of young players like Phil Phoden lol..
Stick to football. They only had 12 years to complain about the hosts. Leave it alone now. It should have been settled off the pitch ages ago. Even if it's effective, the players shouldn't be used as pawns for political agendas. Acting this way can potentially lead to the corruption of football and sport in general and also is unfair to the players themselves
@@NikoHL are you sure it's about human rights and not politics? Why then hasn't the USA ever been banned from a tournament after being in so many wars during the 20th and 21st century which has resulted in the death of millions? And please don't say "whataboutism" because what I'm saying is very relevant. If you can't apply the same rules for everyone there must be a problem. Also, the other aspect of it, which I touched on a bit, is why should the players and citizens of the country suffer due to decisions made by their governments or organizers. And I never said that there was no reason at all to change the host in the first place but like I said they had 12 years to do something about it. Complaining about it once it has already started and using the players as tools to do so seemed pathetic to me
The stick to football line doesn't work. Politics affects everything. Russia is currently banned, do you agree with this? South Africa was banned while under apartied rule, did you agree with this? In 1974 Arab nations refused to play Israel, do you agree with this? Germany was banned from football for 5 years after World War 2. The list goes on. As you can see football has always been political. People say it hasnt but it has. That can't and shouldn't change. Footballs popularity make it a good reflection of society and some of the potential areas we need to work on and therefore makes it a massive voice for change, especially as it is the biggest sport with roughly 3.5 billion fans worldwide.
And yet it's held in a country which has a poor human rights record along with homophobia and not great women's rights. Your point is invalid lmao. More important things than football.
@@harry69007 I don't give a shit about any of this other stuff so my point aint invalid i care about the football why do I want to hear these pundits constantly going on about shit unrelated to football
@@KevinSheedy10 damn bro how can you missed that guy point? What he is saying is, if you want to open up about controversial topics, then the other also deserves to say what they think is right. Example: war in the middle east, but guess where the most protests are? exactly. So stop trying to be so open minded bro, your brain might fall off.
@@barriniho It's lame. Portrays himself as mr. no nonesense but promotes ridiculous behaviour like getting an unnecessary yellow for a pointless political gesture.
@@jamesashfeld4230 he received many uncessary yellow and red cards in his career, but they were all his choices and he has no regrets, even on the bad tackle on Haaland.
I loved it, they made the whole country look like idiots. Everyone is forcibly participating in this absolute shambolic display of virtue signalling. And this WC proved that that is EXACTLY what it is, virtue signalling. When people genuinely care about whatever it is they believe in, they'll die for it. These guys won't even take a card for it. They don't give a fuck, neither do I, but they pretend they give a fuck and it is exhausting.
@@steaks652 Because fifa is a corrupt little organisation, they took bribes and money to have it there you muppet. You're just a little sheep who doesn't want to rock the boat, there are some things bigger than sport, the 2 sheepie captains didn't want to rock the boat.
@@conoconnor4375bigger than sport? What wearing an armband for people who won’t stop blabbing on about gay sex. No one cares. Not your country, get over it. Play football and go home. Spare the agenda for the Eurovision Song Contest.
Lol... You poor thing you have issue's. Do have to put a female down to get your point across. When using social media, please use language that you would not be afraid to say to someone's face.
Don't believe in wearing the armband full stop but lost all respect for Wokegate after this. Banged on about it and his captain sore the armband in the safety of England but then to bottle it in Qatar showed him up as a virtue signaller.
Nobody should be forced to promote a political ideology they disagree with
When Quinton de Kok (South African cricketer) refused to “take the knee” for BLM in the World Cup he was abused and lambasted for it despite being from a mixed race family. He said it’s one thing to support something of your free will, another thing to be forced into it. He ended up getting dropped from the game against West Indies.
That's why Scousers boo the anthem, hypocrite
Why u assuming the whole England squad doesn’t agree with homophobia? Bigots so quick to slam Islam for denying western freedoms but actually they agree on a whole lot…
Gay people existing isn’t political
@Horace__63 yep
If you are going to protest you need to accept consequences, there’s no point protesting if you’re not willing to take the consequences. Muhammad Ali protested by refusing to fight in the Vietnam war; his belt was stripped and fines etc. but he stuck by his beliefs! People need to be willing to sacrifice if they want to protest against or for something, otherwise it’s just a fashion statement or meaningless gesture imo. Basically prorest ir don’t protest but don’t be wishy washy about it
Couldn’t of said it better. If it means that much then surely a yellow card shouldn’t be enough to stop you from expressing your beliefs
Yep, it's exactly the same as being sent to Vietnam. 😄
Well said!
@@drdasslerhe's not saying that though, is he?.
Alexey Navalny said ' You may think you have principles, but unless you are willing to stand up for them and bear the consequences then they are not principles but just thoughts in your head'.
Ali actually went to prison and gave up some prime years of his career. 4 years.
Well spoken Roy Keane. I absolutely agree with you.
Well said.
Does anyone know what Eni Aluko had to say. I saw her and instantly clicked on to hear her DEI take on it.
Because they don't believe in it, they just want to act self righteous for the plaudits but when faced with any resistance they crumble like a pack of cards
Or maybe their priority is football? They can believe it but feel more strongly about representing their country on the pitch.
@@notherntranceaddict181 of course, football > human rights
@@PaulM68322 bro if were the guests in a nother country we gotta follow their rules and guidelines they set plus lgbtq is bullshit
@@nehanabbasi9081 except that they don't exactly follow the rules of the countries they're in, can an openly gay man go walk into a mosque in England without persecution or ridicule? I very much doubt that
@@PaulM68322 a gay person cant go through a mosque cus thats a. disrespectful to islam and b. thats just stupid thong for them to do
The key word here from Keane is, if you have the "belief" then go with it. I think many are being forced to believe rather than believing of their own volition.
just spot the fucking ball and start the game, like wtf are we even talking about here. Play the fucking sport
spot the ball? the game with the pools?
Not when it's bieng played in a horrible oppressive dictatorship
the footballers do not believe in what they are doing and that the money means more to them then the game
Keep politics out of our game.
@@steaks652 politics is involved in everything, that’s just how the world works
@@mariia099, ah, OK.
@@mariia099 it's amazing how Qatar showed a middle finger to westerner hypocrites. World powers are shifting for good, your next generation ll spend their lifetime figuring out their gender so your future doesn't seem bright. We don't want your values (mental ill nesses) in other part of the world.
@@steaks652 you need to keep up to speed slow brain 🧠 😴 politics and sport are, and always have been intrinsically linked.
Absolutely spot on...when it comes to kneeling every match it costs them f--k all...but when someone threatens to give teem a yellow card...they've got a yellow streak down their backs as long as the pennine way.
Principles go right out of the window when it comes down to me, me ,me.
Get rid of that rainbow crap
seriously, I’m so sick and tired of seeing it everywhere. In my town, even the crosswalk are repainted rainbow 🤦🏻♂️
F@#kin country's gone mad mate embarrassing
Lets be honest a bit of the blame is on us
We have allowed this shxt to go on for far too long
They think they run the place
You know I'm right being nice doesn't benefit anyone
@@ashtonndlovu9470 being nice benefits everyone you dullard. The issues start when people aren't nice.
Might be time to start pushing back and to let everyone know that the vast majority of us don't want or support it and find it offensive
Stop taking a knee, keep the rainbow mafia out of it and just play the game. 😊
That life though. You have to deal with it. Its not all about you. There are many things that i rather not see, so what. Its life.
@@billcarson818nah stick to your beliefs
@@Brooks1874 That doesnt have anything to do with that, my friend. If you stick to your beliefs you still have to accept the freedom of others as well.
If your beliefs restrict the freedom of others, im not sure about those beliefs.
Its not like some rainbow flags are hurting you.
@@billcarson818 If you force beliefs onto others, eventually the message is lost and you lose people that would normally support your cause.
Its not forcing beliefs, its preventing discrimination, you dont have the right to discriminate against fellow humans , you don't have the right to be a racist or a homophobe or a sexist @@Aerojet01
The fact they even played there shows they dont actually care
all about where the money is
What do you mean? Why did you play in Russia and going to play in the US? There is no world where these two countries are more humane or haven't killed innocent people more than Qatar. This is just idiotic propaganda.
So allegedly workers died in Qatar build the stadium? These construction companies overseeing the projects arent qatari even. Also last I checked, global powers like the US are slaving miners in congo (actually killing them) to mine their own resources for them and that is all good? Double standards. Hypocrisy.
Grow up
@@Poweroftouch speak for yourself brother
@@jamesallen8917 my comment was removed 😂 i wonder who did that hmm doesnt suit their agenda?
While Britain and Western Europe slide into irrelevance on the world stage, the standard of living decreases, unhappiness and the quality of life worsens, we have these silly distractions to keep people occupied, as though the homosexual agenda were an important issue in most people's lives. It gives fools a reason to feel good about themselves, it undermines the cohesion of the nation, and it keeps people arguing about a trivial matter rather than address the real problems facing ordinary men and women.
Same with the black white stuff. Both black and white are surviving on food banks and sleeping in cold homes. Billionaires couldn’t care less about the colour of each other’s skin or beliefs, their skin is green and their belief is wealth. It’s the poor that end up at each other’s throats when they only have breadcrumbs between them
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Yeah very irrelevant, Just having highest Living standards be it in Humans development index, Wage, security & Safety & having highest
per capita an Average over 60,000 $ & Have strongest passport rating that can travel to more than 100 countries without Visas, Universal Healthcare, Job security etc........
I think it's enough for Qatar bot or Usual merica bubble living no passport Tv couch 🤳 traveller😅.
Embrace fascism.
@@louduva9849 It's the only way.
WHAT THE HELL HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH PLAYING FOOTBALL?
Just like taking the knee.
What about the “stop the boats” thing England fans have been doing or is that not the same?
Look up ESG scores and the WEF.
In hindsight Wales could have made Hennessey captain for the first game
😂
From psychopathic leg breaker to voice of social conscience
But strangely both facts !!✌️✌️🇬🇧🇬🇧
Some love darkness rather than light.
This guy knows
Football and all sport should be apolitical. Teams aren't protest movements. If you are unhappy with the politics, don't agree to play and stay at home. If you agree to play then just play the game and leave politicking to outsiders.
The captain's armband is to show the player is the captain not to show his beliefs. Just stick to football, Harry Kane is a good player and he should focus on the goals not the colour of the armband. Good decision by him
Sport and politics go hand in hand as soon as it was globalised and football being the biggest sport makes it also the most affected by politics lad. Now I know ur gonna say some crap about no its not but then I bet uve also mentioned how football is the most beautiful sport because it can help people come together like in world war 2 where they had a kick about so don't give me that crap about it not being political.
FIFA’s have introduced politics to world football with its decision to hold a tournament in a country which it’s beliefs date back to the stone ages!
FIFA are answerable to know one now and there president has a free rein in that organisation so it’s to the players to make a stand….enough is enough!
@@ayushgurung8885 that is your problem LAD football should be about football maybe you haven’t noticed but it’s not just Muslim countries people that are filling those stadiums stands the vast majority of people going to a game of football or any sport with serious fan bases and rivalries are there to watch the game,support their team, go nuts and gloat when they win and cry and say they got lucky if they lose they do not care about any of this shit even if they do not morally agree with it
England last match is worst football of tournament. Ban them.
Football is also part of Life, So does the politics & everything. Arm band represents the support to Humans & Question the Mediaeval letterboxes on their treatment of womens & Humans rights.
Isn't ironic u same batch that Go gaga 😭on everywhere when it's about belief 😅, Same happening here but just following 21st century & human decency of showing Support oppressed people. Btw Kane wear but Letterbox buddy Fifa board said no.
If someone wants to wear an armband that is about tolerance and compassion then that is fine. People should not have to wear anything they are uncomfortable with.
Roy Keane is so funy
Not funny. More like an ignorant fool
I read that in Japanese voice
@@Fintanflaherty xD
England were not banned from wearing rainbow armbands by Qatar. They were banned by FIFA who categorically doesn’t allow for political messages in games.
But it's double standards as usual. Russia banned but iSteal gennnocide not, even after the UN declared it a pariah state. The violent political BLM group was allowed to be plastered all over the EPL.
Apart from when they have Ukraine flags/messages everywhere, or other politics they support when it suits them. FIFA and uefa are hypocritites.
How is it political to support LGBTQ?
Did they allow kneeling sessions?
@@iaiandocherty8576because being Pro LGBT+ is a political position.
Everyone is sick of it.
ADAM AND EVE THAT'S HOW WE EXIST, NOW DEAL WITH IT!!!!!
Bollocks
I m not interested in their opinion on life.. just play football
Who would have thought roy keane of all people would be an ally
Why wouldnt he? Ireland is a very tolerant country and have even had a gay prime minister of colour.
@@greglyons2526 he's quite old school and a practicing Catholic
So anyone with a differing opinion from yours is an enemy? That's so tolerant of you.
@@greglyons2526that alone doesn't make them tolerant. Russia allows LGBTQ players in their basketball league, but we all know thier attitude towards it.
Note Roy didn't express his own opinion on the issue. He just spoke about what they should do if they believe in that point.
People are sick of promotion of an obscure lifestyle
Protest without fear of consequences is no protest at all.
They'd support anything as long as the money pleases! Keep questionable issues out of football
Well then why did they make an issue out of it,only to back down because fifa honchos got scared of the quatarians, the sheep followers of football don't like rocking the boat,something's are bigger and far more important than football, like human rights, equality, and the treatment and safety of migrant worker's who built these big glossy stadiums.
The questionable issue was giving it to them in the back of a loads of bribes
it's amazing how Qatar showed a middle finger to westerner hypocrites. World powers are shifting for good, your next generation ll spend their lifetime figuring out their gender so your future doesn't seem bright. We don't want your values (mental ill nesses) in other part of the world.L
@@-k5703 Well if they don't like western hypocrites, why beg to have a tournament in their little precious country, knowing full well that the vast majority of football team's Participating in it, will be from these western hypocrite country's that you are referring to, if they don't like western values don't put yourself forward as a canidate then, they have absolutely no football history of any description, bonkers decision to hold it in the middle of a desert country.
@@conoconnor4375 it's a world cup, not "West Cup" or euro Cup. Such arrogance and ignorance in your post, if West got a problem who says they need to participate? World is made up of many countries and it doesn't revolve around western values so shov all that nonsense up where the sun doesn't shine. You come to play football, don't bring your nonsensical values with you, we don't give two Fs about your mental dis orders
They didn’t wear the armbands because they don’t believe simple
Don’t often agree with old bubble head, but in this 100%.
Keep all politics ideology religion and sexuality, and charity from sport not everyone agrees with what they stand for its devisive it ruins the game and has no part being there.
Freedom of choice 😭 LMAO
How about just playing soccer instead of this bullshit.
I agree but it’s called football
“Saccurr”
@@firet7989 It's also called soccer. It may not be your preferred term, but it is another name for the sport.
@@firet7989Soccer is the abbreviated form of Association Football. If you really want to be pedantic then call it Association Football.
That life though. You have to deal with it. Its not all about you. There are many things that i rather not see, so what. Its life. I rather not see all the ads packed on everywhere in sports.
he's right. real cowardice from the players for what? a yellow card...?
No politics in football eh …..🙄
Roy is absolutely right here, as he usually is.
Totally agree 👍
Disagree, leave politics out of the game, if you don't like what they stand for , don't have the tournament there. Also Bale wold have been off the pitch and not won and scored that penalty. He was booked for a tackle which would then have been two yellows.
Keane has become a virtue signalman, it took Wales 64 years to do this, and we have to listen to Captain Pugwash chatting nonsense, get a shave Clough would have told him and wind your neck in.
@@steaks652 No, Bale wouldn't necessarily have been off the pitch, because the game would have played out differently. If he got booked for wearing the armband it would have been a completely different game. Perhaps the Welsh team would have been angry and more fired up, and maybe they would have won the game 3-0 instead.
_Any_ change during a game can completely change the outcome.
@@steaks652 You should probably do a bit more research on it then!
Keane was complaining about the facilities (standing up for what he believed in), and he was "sent home" because of it, and the argument that followed.
@@steaks652 Mick literally said _"I sent him home"_ and if you want to hear it from the horse's mouth, then here you go: th-cam.com/video/3GzRbxQlHms/w-d-xo.html
Public displays of affection in Qatar applies to EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY could end up in jail.
No.. we won't send you to jail. Just don't do it. If you a foreigner and you over do it, we may deport you. .. Qatar didn't ban nor care about this BS.. FIFA have it own armbands and the rules says all captains has to wear FIFA's armbands (which has no rainbow crap on it). It's like showing up to Wimbledon with coloured clothes and complaining why they will not allow you to play. The rules say white-only cloths. Someone should defy that and wear rainbow attire to Wimbledon or other coloured cloths with BS excuse that white only is racism 😂.. We will see how whinny Brits will react.
Agreed, so let’s not host world cups in homophobic countries
That’s how Islam works. Follow our tyrannical rules or we will put you in jail and or kill you
That important a yellow card put them off lol😂
any of these players that push this armband know well that it won't do their own financial agenda any harm wearing these things, ordinary fans walk pay into a footy stadium to leave the bullshit of society at the turnstyles
Well said Roy
What a man ❤
I remember when we had to fight like hell to get the poppy armband ban lifted. Don't really understand why they've allowed the gay pride stuff so freely up till now. Thought fifa's stance was "no political messages".
Thats the hypocrisy of the west. Back when Man city won the cup with mahrez scoring the winning goal, mahrez waved a palestinian flag in supports to them, guess who was fined because "politics and football are not to associate"... like children dying is political, but groomers wanting anal sex is support for human rights. Just a big hypocrisy.
Ukrainian flags are fine at football matches throughout world, Palestinian and Russian flags not so much. But yeah, not politics, unless it’s the politics we like
It's embarrassing several times I've been embarrassed by this shit by people abroad saying hey english gender gender people like you don't relise the damage your doing, l Britain is gay people actually said to me o yea everyone is gay ther telling ther friends like its a fact ,I swear first person I catch that's responsible I'm pulling ther ear n giving them a boot in the arse ,until I get an apology
@@bingbong2205 it’s your fault for looking like a shirtlifter, no one’s ever said that to me and I’ve traveled all over the world
@@thepaddedcell8140Yes but in the current climate of wokeness, gay rights just like many other things like racism and sexism have been politicised.
That man walked the walk......(in saipan) so he can... Talk the talk
why would any straight person advocate something that is not what they do , roy keane keeping it real , i would have done same thing
Joey Barton, 1st footballer to where rainbow laces. #trendsetter
YES.....this is what England stands for....buggery and scissoring!
prick
Coming from the man who walked out on his country.....
was sent home do your research
The point is neither believe in the cause
Where is the H?
The armband represents the leader of a country as a whole not a an advertisement to some type of people like the whole country is like that.
Argentina sticked to Football . And they succeeded
“Stuck”
You didn't "sticked" to school.
I don’t watch England, so couldn’t care less. This issue is one of the reasons I don’t watch England. Next.
Get that woman off the air she doesn’t deserve to be there?? There is a lot more interesting people with a lot of more experience?? WE ALL KNOW WHY ?
Why no major protests for Olympics in China ? Real men and women would have protested that place but no too dodgy , so in my opinion STOP picking and choosing it’s ALL or nothing
What type of armband would you suggest wearing to protest against social inequality in China then? Don't think you've thought this through.
@@sean_43against dictatorships and have democracy 🤷🏾♂️ you think only brown Muslim countries have problems?
@@sean_43 who says that the only way to protest is by wearing an armband ?
So you have to protest against everything if you want to protest at all? Thats a cheap way to try to stop people from protesting. And has no logic behind it, of course.
no commitment no character just 11 tossers
Stick your badge up yeah jacksy
Maybe he just doesn’t believe in it so did not wear it! Funny how these LGBT people talk about bullying but as soon as you are not agreeing to their beliefs you become the bullied.
It’s funnier because you’ve not been bullied, you’re talking shite. Hush up.
England should just not bother with football and just invest that money in their LGBT support. Who gives a toss about ones sexual identify or friggin preferences? It's football, get on the damn pitch, play and get off. Sick of all these bs now.
Were you against sporting events boycotting South Africa back in the '80s?
Believe it or not, there are gay footballers
@@leonthethird7494yeah and no one has/needs to know that they like it from the back! No one cares… why does everyone want to share it so bad?
@@katya5573 because gay people have been persecuted for a very long time and they seek to normalize it. They shouldn’t have to hide it. Plenty of straight people are very open about their straightness.
@@leonthethird7494 I didn’t know straight people get mad if u didn’t wear a “straight flag” arm band or force people to support them even if it ruined their careers..
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Initial black player, captain and international captain (from the team that the first International stadium was built around (after both the inaugural men and women’s football internationals) was Andrew Watson of Scotland! In the 1800s ( Despite what the FA have been writing) They produced the ‘Scotch’ professors, the ‘beautiful’ passing game and football around the world eg Argentina and Brazil….. how things change! - they were overtaken big time- but we forget what it was about.
Roy Keane, right as always.
Well probably that’s not what he believes it’s forced on him to do it, or he gets canceled and then banned from the team....
Hypocrite... seriously, you have no idea what you are talking about.. and yes, football sold it's soul to the devil a long time ago.. but then I guess you believe all phones and iPhones are clean with no blood on it as either... Just for the record I do not watch the bbc.
@@saeef123 you all know that’s not the case... Germany did it and nothing happened... but let’s say that is even the case... why fear if you know you do the right thing? What more beautiful dying defending humanity? It’s all BS, they know it’s a wrong thing therefore they won’t risk anything defending them... most you tubers are warned not to go to the World Cup or they get canceled... it’s so that they don’t expose the truth... once they show Qatar to the world everyone knows the west was bluffing for years...
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@@saeef123 it's amazing how Qatar showed a middle finger to westerner hypocrites. World powers are shifting for good, your next generation ll spend their lifetime figuring out their gender so your future doesn't seem bright. We don't want your values (mental ill nesses) in other part of the world.
@@saeef123 I'm guessing you believe Grant Wahl was murdered.
First time I’ve disagreed with Roy.
Every Country has the right to govern themselves how they see fit. Who the hell are a bunch of footballers to go to a country and tell them they are wrong. Best protest is to not show up
So you are okay when countries commit genocide. Nice to know
@@ethanmccarty3293 Qatar commit genocide?
@@haghuro9843 with all due respect Britain has no right to comment on that type of matter they did it more and in almost every country on earth they cannot pretent to be the saints of the world now if you say history does not matter then why do white people somehow owe every other race for atrocities hundreds of years old western culture ignores its own problem and constantly tells everybody else how they are wrong you are not making a difference or turning the world into a better place all you are doing is making the world people hate each other even more
Saudis murdered a journalist, the USA are protecting them. The USA destroyed Libya. Britain invaded Iraq in an illegal war. I'm not saying you are not right, but many of them cannot be pointing fingers. It's a complex issue. That said, this world cup from its core stinks of corruption, bought and paid for. So no surprise. An armband wasn't fixing any of that.
English people for you
This is football. Such nonsense shouldn't be advertising in this beautiful game. that's it . Who feels it knows it every religion is against it and should not have been in football
love and peace Roy Keane really
He was told to say this by ITV 100%
He picked his words carefully. That's the sign of the times for most people who work on TV.
As if Roy Keane could care less about rainbows n fairies n the like! 🤣
Keep poltics out of football
Europe Divided by borders but united upon rectal penetration
This is why Islam will win.
You would know
@@eplv3432 until people point out the Mohammed ascended to heaven on a flying horse and cut the Moon in two.
@@greglyons2526 They're called miracles. And wonder if you believe we all evolved from an ape-like creature 🙄
@Greg Lyons just like how Jesus raised the dead and made a bird of clay and blew life into it, by the will of God.
islam hadn't reached South India, but when the moon split even non Muslims witnessed it and reported it among whom was s Hindu king. Who later brought Islam
Where's his?
looooooooooooooooooooooool
Massive respect to kane for this
I can’t stand Kane because of this ! He can promote his perversion on his own private time !
No politics in football unless it’s the politics of those in charge. Laughable at best FIFA
Critically he says:
'... if that's what you believe'
Are we supposed to imagine that 11 footballers all feel strongly about the issue let alone hold it up as a 'belief'?
They are footballers. That's it.
Its all quite silly and dubious.
Most probably dont give a crap
They’re all of the same opinion. Weird that
You wouldn't/shouldn't have to promote/align with any religion/ideology you don't want to
England fi8tball team is full of hypocrisy. Henderson taking the Saudi doller. Southgate refusing to comment on it. Rice changing who he plays for same with grealish kane should of wore it not bottle it.
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Leave the Politics for your off day. A man in a dress is still a man and Vice versa.
but now you have made a political statement
@@greglyons2526 not political rather a scientific fact.
@@Goldmember66 It more so a semantics statement than anything. more about how we define words.
Im not an athlete getting paid millions to play soccer.
@@leonthethird7494Funny how certain people can make words so open to “interpretation”. Weird
It’s Nothing to do with football at a World Cup.
Leave it in your bedroom!
Tell Jamie Vardy to wear one
Jamie vardy is built like a goblin
Keane comes out with some nonsense. Who are we to tell qataris how to live their lives? Who determines whats right and wrong? This is not my beautiful house. This is not my beautiful wife.
This is a terrible argument, homophobia is wrong
Even Keane is woke
He's not even saying it's the right thing to do. Just that if that's their belief they should demonstrate it on the pitch and protest
@@Central_Sound waiting for the day an England captain wears a pro man boy love armband. After all they have the right to express th3ir beliefs
I don’t agree with a lot of the LGBT movement with the wearing of provocative clothing and BDSM shit in public.
Saying that’s it’s not fucking woke to show solidarity with gay and trans people. They can’t choose their brains. If you think is it a choice and all gay/trans people are lying you live on moon IMO and misunderstand how complex our minds are.
Trans people shouldn’t be in opposite sex sports and i don’t think they should use bathrooms that’s not the original biological sex (yet anyway).
To dismiss them as just freaks is weak minded though. Easy to hate and judge, it takes strength to show compassion and understanding. What they go through must be hell.
Roy Keane is a closeted gay, i noticed that a long time ago. Nothing wrong with it, but he tries to hide it under the ''masculinity'' and football. But it's very obvious, he's like Kevin Spacey. Actually both Roy Keane and Kevin Spacey have very similar personalities. They're both posh, well-spoken, politely aggressive, sarcastic, rude.. They are not masculine men, but they're still dom/top, they like young boys. They are like soft predators, slimey and cunning. I bet Keane listens to classical music while doing his nails, looking at pictures of young players like Phil Phoden lol..
@@rosihantu1 He's just saying what a pathetic farce it is to pretend to care but to crumble at the first obstacle.
Stick to football. They only had 12 years to complain about the hosts. Leave it alone now. It should have been settled off the pitch ages ago. Even if it's effective, the players shouldn't be used as pawns for political agendas. Acting this way can potentially lead to the corruption of football and sport in general and also is unfair to the players themselves
It's not politics.. It's Human Rights. Something you clearly don't care about.
@@NikoHL are you sure it's about human rights and not politics? Why then hasn't the USA ever been banned from a tournament after being in so many wars during the 20th and 21st century which has resulted in the death of millions? And please don't say "whataboutism" because what I'm saying is very relevant. If you can't apply the same rules for everyone there must be a problem. Also, the other aspect of it, which I touched on a bit, is why should the players and citizens of the country suffer due to decisions made by their governments or organizers. And I never said that there was no reason at all to change the host in the first place but like I said they had 12 years to do something about it. Complaining about it once it has already started and using the players as tools to do so seemed pathetic to me
The stick to football line doesn't work. Politics affects everything. Russia is currently banned, do you agree with this? South Africa was banned while under apartied rule, did you agree with this? In 1974 Arab nations refused to play Israel, do you agree with this? Germany was banned from football for 5 years after World War 2. The list goes on.
As you can see football has always been political. People say it hasnt but it has. That can't and shouldn't change. Footballs popularity make it a good reflection of society and some of the potential areas we need to work on and therefore makes it a massive voice for change, especially as it is the biggest sport with roughly 3.5 billion fans worldwide.
That’s one reason I liked Ronaldo…lol football is football, don’t get it why “rainbows” now is associated to lgbtq+…lol
I blame Mr tumble! 😂
Let's remember the world cup is about football
And yet it's held in a country which has a poor human rights record along with homophobia and not great women's rights. Your point is invalid lmao. More important things than football.
Let's also remember that sport and football has always been political.
@@harry69007 I don't give a shit about any of this other stuff so my point aint invalid i care about the football why do I want to hear these pundits constantly going on about shit unrelated to football
Well said Mr Cook
@@harry69007 then which morally right country should held it then? none is the answer cause all of them did dirty shit too
Why not stand up for the rights of the captives in Guantanamo bay
because there were only a few as opposed to billions of gay people since the beginning of time
@@greglyons2526 So those few don't count?
@@greglyons2526Well how about those dozens of slaves still happening in Africa, china and some part of the world? Think before you speak man
Was there a football tournament in Guantanamo? Must have missed that one.
@@KevinSheedy10 damn bro how can you missed that guy point? What he is saying is, if you want to open up about controversial topics, then the other also deserves to say what they think is right.
Example: war in the middle east, but guess where the most protests are? exactly.
So stop trying to be so open minded bro, your brain might fall off.
Meanwhile, Haaland, Vieira and Fjortoft watch Keane talk about respect.
All of them can’t hold a candle to Keano
@@amroge8703viera was way better than Keane 😂
This can also be going against their religious beliefs can you force that? Ridiculous
Spoken like a true west brit
Good old roy Keane the hard man gone woke
How is it woke? he said if you truly believe in something, then do it . He didn't say he would wear it.
@@barriniho It's lame. Portrays himself as mr. no nonesense but promotes ridiculous behaviour like getting an unnecessary yellow for a pointless political gesture.
@@jamesashfeld4230 he received many uncessary yellow and red cards in his career, but they were all his choices and he has no regrets, even on the bad tackle on Haaland.
@@barriniho boo hoo
When your pay slip is right on the cancel culture button and every pundit turns into a sunday priest.
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If thats what you believe? 😂😂😂
What an absolute puppet!
The players dont believe in that crap
Keep politics out of sports. Its extremely important
Does that include poppies?
I loved it, they made the whole country look like idiots. Everyone is forcibly participating in this absolute shambolic display of virtue signalling. And this WC proved that that is EXACTLY what it is, virtue signalling.
When people genuinely care about whatever it is they believe in, they'll die for it. These guys won't even take a card for it. They don't give a fuck, neither do I, but they pretend they give a fuck and it is exhausting.
Good on you, Roy.
Not at all. Captain Pugwash virtue signalling, why have the tournament there, and try to dictate there beliefs.
Shame on you Roy!
@@steaks652 Because fifa is a corrupt little organisation, they took bribes and money to have it there you muppet. You're just a little sheep who doesn't want to rock the boat, there are some things bigger than sport, the 2 sheepie captains didn't want to rock the boat.
@@conoconnor4375bigger than sport? What wearing an armband for people who won’t stop blabbing on about gay sex. No one cares. Not your country, get over it. Play football and go home. Spare the agenda for the Eurovision Song Contest.
Lol...
You poor thing you have issue's.
Do have to put a female down to get your point across.
When using social media, please use language that you would not be afraid to say to someone's face.
Even keane was pushed into talking crap....
Ohhh you got it him man holy nothenr god what a great ponit you made sweet baby jesus you should be writing for the daily mail.
@@dontevenlook thankyou brother
If they’d have worn that armband they’d be dead right now.
Don't believe in wearing the armband full stop but lost all respect for Wokegate after this. Banged on about it and his captain sore the armband in the safety of England but then to bottle it in Qatar showed him up as a virtue signaller.