You legend, no one got a review yet! Laptop itself with 12th Gen processor doesn't seem to match the hype though. I was hoping for a review like this on battery life. I will go ahead with an 11th Gen XPS 13 at a massive discount.
Lol thx! I'm shocked to be first. I don't know what's going on with 12th gen....I think we're going to learn more in April. PS: check out the Razer Book 13 before you pull the trigger on that XPS. It's not on massive sale though.
I've been waiting for this laptop to come out since at least November. Very disappointed about the battery life, although priced at $3,500 I'm not too disappointed since the alternatives are cheaper. Thank you for this review, I've been waiting like a hawk for a review to come out for months.
I’ve been waiting on this laptop for like 6 years to hit its peak. It disappoints every year. I bought one for work, it’s okay but I’m moving on from the x1 for a personal laptop.
@@ChannMakhna I made the painful decision to get the mac laptop with the m1 pro chip. I never thought I would go apple but the windows options are so disappointing especially in terms of things that should be standard by now such as no fan noise and reliable battery life. Apple just makes better machines
I was surprised to see this video recommendation from TH-cam. I have been searching hard for my next business laptop, torn between x1 carbon gen 9 (or 10!), X13, x13 yoga or even the M1 MBA for its amazing battery life. Glad to see this review, guess I won't wait for this gen 10 given the limited upgrade.
They just launched custom orders and didn't get the 2k screen due to the mention here of bad battery life. I did get the 1280P processor. I'll test the battery life once I get it and update in the comments. Only reason I ordered is that I desperately needed a replacement for my slowly failing current laptop
I've been waiting for someone to do a review of this! Thanks so much!! I've been waiting for the X1 Carbon Gen 10, but I think I'm going to wait to see what happens w/ The new T14s.
Thanks for your share! So the gen 10 gets： performance ➕ noise control ➕ camera ➕ battery life ➖➖（That‘s not a good news cause i intended to choose 4K display option🥲）
I'm glad I saw this before I pulled the trigger on the laptop. New job working from home has told me to get a laptop of my choosing to expense. Do you have a video about best laptop(s) for working from home?
MBP is developed from Apple and this is a big advantage, on the other hand thinkpad is evolved from Intel, Microsoft and Lenovo and i think all knows how well developed is Microsoft's software. thank you for your review!
Excellent review. I was extremely excited and hyped about the new 12th gen P-series CPUs, but I guess I shouldn't have had too high of an expectation. Maybe it'll get better with updates from intel as you've mentioned. Like your concise and informative style of review.
Just found your channel by chance when I was looking into buying a laptop later down the road this year. Subscribed and look forward to watching more reviews!
Thank you for the review! I value the battery life so so much on laptops and was looking forward to Alder Lake's power efficiency improvements, so of course the few reviews I saw so far have been big disappointments. Especially now that Apple proved that we CAN get amazing battery life.
thank you for making this video. All the important aspects covered. Please Make more content. Also you have successfully convinced me to keep my MacBook Pro I bought last week. As much as I love Windows, this MacBook Pro is on a whole another level. Speaker quality, screen , battery life, and performance is exceptional on the MacBook. Some of the things/apps I use don't work on my Mac, but I can't make a compromise on everything else. I'm willing to spend but window just doesn't have an alternative no matter how much money you pay. 3400 for this? NO SIR
Hey thanks for the detailed comment. And congratulations on your MB. Which one did you get? Lenovo always have crazy sales. I'm guessing this will be $2500 before too long.
This was the most impressive laptop review I've ever seen! I was considering purchasing this model but I'm also disappointed about the battery life. Should I choose x1 yoga instead of this model then? If you recommend other models, it really helps me!
Oh in that case try to find the Lenovo Slim 7i Carbon. It’s 11th gen Intel with an NVIDIA low power GPU. Good if you don’t need a poop ton of GPU power.
Thanks for the review. It would be worth mentioning that maybe Windows 11 scheduler isn’t yet ready for efficient power management regarding this new CPU.
I’m not surprised by the battery life you’re getting. I’ve had the issue with multiple Lenovo laptops, where the battery life is grossly overstated and I never even get close to what they claim the laptop should get. But it seems to be getting worse with every new generation.
Dang I'm sorry to hear that. In this case, with brand new efficient processors from intel, the tech world was expecting better battery life than this. And this is probably still the only example that we have of practical application of these processors, at least for the next couple of days.
Could you measure power use in idle (with coretemp?) to see how many watts it uses. I just ordered one and I am worried after your review. Maybe you should also try to install win10 and compare with win11
Battery life can improve on a laptop post-release, from driver/BIOS updates. If they aren't designed well they might leave devices on, burning power. For example, people who run Linux on older ThinkPads (thus needing to configure everything themselves) see huge battery life improvements from fixing config/driver errors (on the order of 2x). Obviously it shouldn't be *that* bad on a modern device, but it's still possible.
Just got the 9th gen version because of these battery horror stories! I’m tempted to purchase the i5 u chip which may possibly bring better battery life. But I went through a dell xps 13 plus before this and it was the same song and Dance. These p series chips are horrendous for battery. Great video !
@@TechAdventure1 I had the xps13 plus oled variant. Laptop was awesome. I enjoyed the keyboard, build quality was awesome. Screen… holy sh#^. It was honestly really great. Battery life wasn’t the greatest. Maybe 5 hours on better battery with screen brightness increased a 40% after enabling. This was with light use with excel and a pdf open. But I did opt for the highest config available. Watching movies on the screen I watched 2 episodes of 1883 and dropped about 21%. I’m not exact guru with computers but seems the battery would have been closer to an 8 hour mark with just watching videos. I work in a construction type field so my main reason for returning was 1) way to nice for the environment I was in . I couldn’t imagine bringing that to a roof in the elements. And 2) I really would have enjoyed a longer battery life. I did reduce the resolution in the field and was getting closer to 7.5 hours… but I can get close to 12 doing the same type of deals with my use case on this Thinkpad. Laptop was also a bit warm. But nothing that bothered me. I didn’t cap any kind of power because i don’t know how to do all that lol. All In all great laptop. But just wasn’t a good fit for my case. I purchased out of want because it looked amazing, and didn’t factor in everything. Also, Touch Bar was fine. Responsive. I liked it much more than the Touch Bar on the previous MacBooks I had . No issues with speakers . And The trackpad was the best I’ve personally used on a windows laptop. Right up there with MacBooks which I have used .
@@jordanmocny2690 How are you liking the gen x1x gen 9? What do you think of the keyboard? I recently got my gen 9 but im wondering if maybe I should return it for the gen 10.
I think, apart from a nicer camera and a quieter fan, the gen 10 is not that much different compared to gen 9. Lenovo might have reached the limit in improving the X1 carbon line. Eager to see what they will do next, and what other new Thinkpad lines (Z series, T14s gen 3...) have to offer!
You may be on to something for sure. I think the Z series looks interesting for sure. But I won't sleep on the G10 quite yet. Let's see what the OLED displays look like and if battery efficiency improves.
This is a light and thin portable laptop, not a video editing workstation. I would much rather have 4 cores/8 threads and 12+ hours of battery life VERSUS 12 cores/16 threads and 4+ hours of battery life :o( Maybe Lenovo will throw in the 9W-29W or at least the 15W-55W U-Series 12th gen processors as they have advertised instead of this 28W-64W processor. The U-Series is still really not out in any laptop at this time so here is hoping for that.
I'm thinking about getting either the X1 Carbon Gen 10 or T14 Gen 3... was favoring the T14 but since it has a smaller battery (53 vs 57) I'm a bit disappointed. I'm wondering how the i7 1265u (an option for the T14) would perform in battery since it's a 15w... but then again, with battery modes you can already make these 28w P chips be 15w = back to the review results... I'm so lost haha From Lenovo's own PSREF the differences between Gen 2 vs Gen 3 are not that bad, even with their crappy benchmark standard/approach, but what REALLY bothered me is how bad the T14 Gen 3 is compared to the X1 Carbon Gen 10. Based on "psref" specs alone (using the similar configurations) T14 would be half the results here = big WTF I'm really trying to play around with configs and see "benefits" in other areas but for 2k+ euros these machines should be crazy solid Wondering how different the latest Dell Latitudes/Precisions would be compared to this...
The 10th Gen X1 Carbon does come with 2 display options (both 4K) that have 500 nits of brightness. One of them is Glossy (which is a NO go for me) and the other is an anti-glare screen but both of those options are an add-ons that add $240-ish or more to the price of the laptop. I'm wondering if the lowish battery life can be attributed to the 12th gen P chipset. I've heard other say that the efficiency cores are NOT giving them improved battery life as one would expect.
Amd version with a brighter screen would be perfect. The 14s Gen 3 will have amd versions and better screens. Should resolve everything that is bad with this one. I haven't found a single review for it though... Thanks for this. You saved me. The things you did not like would have been a deal breaker for me and return policies here in Chile are terrible.
Do you think, a Gen 9 would be a good buy? If one compares it to Gen 10? They usually put the older model on sale when the new one comes out. Thanks, great review by the way.
I think after M1 came out to the world everybody sees that laptop differently as M1 provide something that really Intel or AMD laptop PC could not provide. M1 provides normal use people less heated laptop and less energy-consuming laptop and also silent laptop. So, we may expect something close to those experiences that Apple provides today. It seems that still Intel 12th Gen can not do as much as M1 does. Then, I believe the best timing for the new Intel laptop with a noticeably better experience should be for the next Gen... I hope.
12th gen Intel can do one (and I think exactly one :P) thing that M1 can't: run Windows (and Linux) and x86 VMs and Docker images. Other than that, M1 is just better, sadly... Oh, and Intel can be bough at VASTLY different pricepoints, while M1 has quite high lower-end cutoff, the MacBook Air. It's great value, but still expensive
@@Qrzychu92 Lmao x1 carbon gen 10 is way more expensive than a damn m1 air with 16 gb ram. And it totally outclasses the Thinkpad by a long margin. Can even run circles around it in regards to virtualising docker images through parallels.
Gracias por hacer este video, sin duda eres el primero! Decepcionado por el procesador, solo reafirma lo bien que lo esta haciendo apple. Por el precio prefiero el Gen9, sin duda; Por otra parte, para mí la cámara de 720p es suficiente (no soy muy guapo!!!). Saludos desde Chile.
I just received this yesterday - and it seems like there's a huge design flaw when you opt for touch-screen. When the laptop gets hot, the warm air from the exhaust goes to the screen, and is triggering phantom screen presses on the touch screen. Basically, the computer thinks I'm spam tapping the bottom of my screen, making the computer useless until I get it cooled off.
@@TechAdventure1 indeed. I'm also still trying to find confirmation of a broader issue (which i think it is). But so far, there are very few reviews online. I experienced it several times on the first day of light use. Maybe it can be solved with firmware update, not sure. But for now I think I'll disable touch input
@@ReneScott Does your laptop get heated up on the left side? I normally leave my left hand on the left side of hte laptop, and it got hot, I have a T14 gen 1, and that never happened, the x1 heats way more than the T14 (and I thought i was upgrading)
@@ReneScott Dang, I just bought one today, and my hand was getting so hot, since i was a gamer, my hand normally rests on the QWER keys. I tried returning but the seller said no no. I bought it for arond 500usd... I thought it was a pretty good deal with 32gb ram 1tb ssd touch screen. :(
Would be great if you could share your thoughts on the key travel of X1C gen 10 vs gen 9! Some complain that on gen 9, the keys are actually shallower than advertised and bottom out too quickly; so, their fingers hurt typing for a long period.
I used the G9 for a while. I never had pain, fortunately. I just got in another G10 for review, this time from Lenovo. I can’t do a direct comparison since I no longer have the G9 review unit.
I am wondering the same thing. I purchased a x1c gen 9 and an x13 gen 3 because I couldnt make up my mind. I will returning the x13 but The keyboard is much better than the x1c gen 9. If the keyboard on the x1c gen 10 is like the on e on the x13 than I would return both and get the gen 10.
For gen 9: PDF psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_Gen_9/ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_Gen_9_Spec.pdf MobileMark® 2014: 21.3 hr MobileMark 2018: 16.7 hr JEITA 2.0: 26.0 hr So indeed, we can expect worse battery time with gen 10, but not that bad
Thank you for the review. Im planning to get a laptop for my work purpose (heavily usage of Microsoft office). Would you recommend X1 carbon Gen 10? or any better choice for me?
To be honest, I dont think any window laptop cant compare with Apple M1 and M1 Max, that something is really different. Intel and AMD need to work harder
Yeah well apples done is really something, but value is defined by a multitude of factors. One of those, is subjective. Meaning the buyer will imagine their life with the device and how they feel during that time will affect their purchase emotionally. That's not to discount what buyers go through. In fact Apple have capitalized on the emotional elements of a purchase for decades. In other words, even though this laptop isn't as efficient as the Apple m1 laptops, it still has tremendous value to certain buyers. Including myself.
Because the product is absolute crap. And no "professional" reviewer would touch it since it would mean bashing it and destroying the relationship with Lenovo. This is actually a good question and it the answer is rather disturbing.
I own a Thinkpad X1 Carbon (6th gen)...Generally speaking there are many things to like about it. Lightweight, Matte display, great port selection but reliability wise it's been the WORST laptop when it comes to reliability (e.g., HDMI died at 13 months (just outside of warranty, touchpad disappears periodically and it requires a reboot to get it back, etc.)). And by the way Lenovo acknowledges that the HDMI failure is the result of a Lenovo design flaw with the motherboard (Fix requires replacing motherboard) but they REFUSE to address it even though mine failed 1 month beyond the warranty....That's a deal breaker for me. I'll NEVER purchase another Lenovo system because of that. I reward vendors who support their products and do the right thing by their user. Lenovo FAILS miserably on this measure.
Thanks for the review. I was looking on this laptop (and bunch of others) but seems like I will end up getting Macbook pro. Seems like no one is able to get the battery life Apple is getting with their M1 pro.
Awesome review. So between Dell XPS 15 /13 or X1 carbon Gen10, which one would you recommend, if mostly i am working with MS office apps (mainly excel). I am a window user so not sure if i consider Mac Pro.
Hmm XPS 15 is larger than 13. Is portability super important? There is a 1.5LB difference between 13 and 15. I recently picked up the MB Pro 14. It's really something...but opening office apps is slow for me (again. I had this issue with M1 Pro 13). Once the app is loaded in memory it's fine. So if you go that route you may want to consider 16 or 32 GB of RAM. And unlike most Windows machines, Macs depreciate slower. So the added RAM would further slow the value burn.
@@TechAdventure1 Unfortunately, I have to use some excel add-in tools which Mac doesn’t support. So I have to go for window laptops only. I am bit confused between xps vs x1 carbon and which gen 9 or 10?
Concern here is the battery life, how is it not good, the entire point of Intel going to hybrid cores was to add efficiency cores wtf is Intel doing then.
Agreed! There’s something more to the story. Notice there aren’t any tech tubers releasing reviews about this one? And there aren’t many 1260P laptop reviews out there at all. Unless it’s a touchscreen 2-in-1 with a built in excuse for 8ish hours of battery life.
Intel 12th gen laptop battery sucks but we need TB4 for these kinds of premium Ultrabook due to limited ports. Otherwise, AMD should be a better alternative as It has been proven in recent G14 reviews that AMD Rembrandt mobile CPU has even better efficiency then last gen AMD. Imagine this with incoming OLED panel option, 2-3 hours battery life for sure :(
Good comments. If I needed a gaming laptop I would get that G14. But I only need a work machine RN. Btw check out my review of the Samsung Galaxy Book2 Pro. Battery life is way better.
@@TechAdventure1 having X1 Carbon using R7 6800U is interesting, exchanging TB4 port for better battery life. Or we can look into lower end model like T14s which has both AMD/Intel option with OLED 2.8k panel
AMD Ryzen series 6000 can normally (if implemented by the manufacturer) have USB4 which is TB3 compatible. So not the latest TB4 but its not like TB4 brought that much improvements anyway. So yeah you can use TB docks and even eGPU with AMD chips from now on. Too bad lot of PCs will still use 5000 series this year. We could see a lot of PC (especially gamer PCs) switching to Ryzen 6000 H/HS/HX series but it seems the selection for 6800U will be limited. That is annoying... I was waiting for this year to upgrade my Surface Pro 5, I need at least TB3 but there is no way I wanted the 11th gen Intel quad-core chips. I was really expecting Intel 12th gen to be good because I knew those would be the more widespread and they are in terms of perfs. But it seems Intel redlined them and sacrificed efficiency dramatically. So now I have choice between those toasters and Ryzen 6000U that are almost non-existent in ultrabooks right now :(
I am still resisting switching over to A1 Mac because I hate the Mac, so was looking for a laptop for my Lightroom and Premiere pro editing. What's your feeling, is this ThinkPad going to be somewhat up for the task? And will the battery able to keep-up for at least 4-5 hours with that load (which the cheapest Macbook Air easily does)?
I would wait for other reviews to go up before ruling out the X1. It's possible I have a dud or an update is coming that will address the battery life. I'm currently testing the Galaxy Book2 Pro. It's 10.5 hours into the same looping video test as the Carbon, and it has 8% battery remaining. And it's not in battery saver mode! Plus, synthetic benchmarks are higher than the Carbon in my review (again I could have a bad unit). I'm keeping the Book2 instead of switching to Mac.
Did the battery life improve with updates? As I understand, Intel 12th Gen was not very compatible with Win 11 earlier, which caused high battery degradation but now things seem sorted!
Do you think something may be wrong with the unit itself? everyone else seems to say the brightness is okay and the battery life is bad but not as bad as you are saying. just curious if you ruled out anything is wrong with the unit itself.
Good question. I just got a new unit from Lenovo for review. The display seems similar from my recollection. But I need to run a new battery test following a recent firmware update.
Do You Need To Have BLOOD Running Through Your Finger For The FingerPrint Reader To Work Or CAN Someone Cut Your Finger Off and Stilll Use It to UNLOCK The Computer, A Good Password Still Sounds BETTER.
Could you Please tell me, does the laptop have the rubbery coating material that is soft on touch or is it more plasticky? I have seen both in X series. I am trying so hard to find the laptop with that nice rubbery coating, but no luck.
Thinkpad user since 2006. Sad to see the battery life not keeping up with the processor/generation upgrades. Seriously considering going to the dark side --- macbook m1. Everything is a web app anyway these days. So, all I need is chrome + virtual machines/docker. Dont want to..... but I see no other option for now.
I'm not a big Mac fan, but I did roll an M1 MacBook Pro for 9 months. Lovely to use until it came to office apps. They were slow as mud to open. I've briefly tested the new 14" models and they're much faster..
How would you run Linux VMs on a Macbook? (Podman? Vmware Fusion?) I am asking because my new employer will give me a Macbook as a work machine, would prefer a Thinkpad, but that's the way it is.
In my opinion M1 Pro is the best laptop, but the ARM architecture is really limiting if you work with docker container and VMs. I work with a lot of x86 containers, I can't think of using them in emulation mode (that is very very slow).
@@lorisbelcastro1422 Thanks for the info. What would be the benefit of using emulation mode? Do you need software that is not yet available for ARM? Due to supply chain problems it might take a few more months until I get the new machine, so until then I will keep on working with WSL 2 Linux on my old Yoga machine.
Is it possible if you can use linux and again do a battery review ? If not do you think that linux will increase the battery life ? By the way waiting for custom option like gen 9 on this laptop.
Lenovo has good return policy… really? I had a big drama with them last year.. and I returned the first faulty one for a replacement of exact same x1 extreme model and they sent m a cheaper different model.. then another return with dead pixels I had to escalate the whole issue to BBB to have it sorted… I am telling u they return is definitely not something u wanna try.
Waiting for the new T14 G3 for which Lenovo claimed "all day battery" to replace my old T450s. I now notice T14 G3 and X1C G10 uses the same i7 CPU, so the battery on oT14 G3 probably would be disappointing as well. What's going on Intel?!
Iam on Apple platform for several years. I would like to jump on Windows platform but It looks that laptop on Windows are not has powerful than new macbook pro produce 2022. Which Windows laptop should I choose? I need 8 Tb storage under the hood! Thanks for your answer!
Thank you for this review. But I want to say that this model has a i71260p processor and it’s really weaker than i51240p in benchmark side which is really confusing. If you search about benchmark of these processors on the internet you’ll find this result. x1 carbon with core i51240p costs 2879$ ,and it doesn’t have PCle gen 4 as the model on this video. Maybe PCle gen 4 needs more battery. So I expect the x1 carbon with i51240 is more powerful in benchmark and has better battery life.
Lenovo disappointed me. First this laptop isn't customizable like gen 9 where there was an option to customize the hardware specification according to your needs. Secondly, obviously the battery life. I believe that the intel gen 12 was designed for better battery life and power but this looks one way. I agree about the power and speed but at what cost ? Third, the price. Fourth why they only have soldered ram option, is it upgradable ? I was seriously looking forward to this laptop. Is there any similar but better laptops ?
Usually Lenovo only sells pre-made reference models at the beginning until they can ramp up production. The possibility to customize will probably arrive a couple of weeks/1-2 months after the official release. Intel smoke bombed everyone with their 12th gen. They focused on performance only and talked about their efficiency cores but never talked about the impact on battery. Because they are still on their 10nm process, Alder Lake is a muuuuch bigger chip than Tiger Lake so it consumes like crazy. I was hyped too but again Intel dropped the ball.
Not sure when you last checked Lenovo site but when I checked today there was at least 1 sku for the 10thGen that allowed you to configure the X1 however you liked...including 4 screen options.
I bought a Lenovo 15 inch two years ago. Horrible battery life, maybe 2 hours. Great laptop if it is plugged in. So, it seems Lenovo has not improved the battery life.
I’m not sure what else they could do to improve battery life. Even with the dim screen on this more entry-level model, as you saw the battery life is not good. I believe it’s falls on both Intel and Microsoft for how the new 12 series processors are being read by windows.
Très déçu car j'attendais cette machine depuis longtemps et pour moi l'écran est très important ainsi que la batterie !!... tant pis, j'attendrais l'année prochaine. Merci, super vidéo !
hi everyone, can this laptop easily handle 20-50 google chrome tabs? since im a heavy user of youtube, lot of websites going on, so usually 20-50 tabs running behind, so Im super curious if this machine could handle 20-50 tabs with a few windows opened, please help !!!
Hello, thanks for the video, I'm from Saudi Arabia, I would like to mention that there is an option "Design by yourself" in the official website where you can choose the special specifications you want, and unfortunately this option is not available in the official Saudi website, because if I buy from the "Design by yourself" option it will not come With an Arabic keyboard, is there a solution? Can I buy the device and then buy an Arabic keyboard and exchange it for the device I own?
I suspect this generation will not be remembered fondly. Bad battery life, subpar keyboard (relative to older gens), low nit panel. Not good and the 12th gen hybrid cpu is definitely not living up to the hype - at least not with this model. I knew something was up when Lenovo omitted battery life verbiage from their promo material. I was expecting massive battery life gains, but if its the same (or worse) than previous gens, then why not opt for those instead at steep discounts?
I returned the carbon and picked up the new Galaxy Book2 Pro. It's a special laptop. I can't judge the battery yet but it has restored my faith in the new 12th gen CPUs. I'll try to publish a video of it today.
@@TechAdventure1 Don't know. I'm in the market for a 14" thinkpad. I'm also thinking about just skipping the laptop for now and grabbing a P620 workstation.
Way to true. The battery life absolutely sucks. Intel is just so far behind........ everyone should just ditch them. And to call them upper or even a mid-level laptop at this point would just be false.
At least we get power...and many manufacturers have done a good job of being creative with design (ZenBook Duo, Razer Book, ZenBook S). But I'm with you - they just run too hot and battery life suffers.
What's the chance that your issues with battery life could be down to Windows 11? Pretty big if you ask me, this being an all new CPU architecture. Same with brightness. Sounds like the OS is messing it up.
I wish I had the answer. I reached out to Lenovo for some help related to all of my findings. We're working on it but they're not commenting on battery life.
@@TechAdventure1 I've seen people comment about worse battery life on the gen 9 as well after upgrading to Win 11. There isn't any way you can downgrade to Win 10 to see if the battery behaves better?
Intel marketing is full of poopoo. I knew the E cores were pure marketing to outdo the number of cores AMD provide. And the quiet launch of these new laptops prove me right. More powerfull but not the ultra efficient processors they told us. After all, the 12900k spike at 350w, when the 5950x spike at 140.
I've been scratching my head about this launch. I mostly focusing on the laptops, and the releases are all over the map in terms of timing and publicity. Apple sure has Intel scrambling.
lenovo is like bmw for laptops. they don't change things that work. if anyone knows better keyboard in laptop please let me know. I've recently bought and tried out samsung book2 pro. the key travel is shallow. lenovo keyboards are just perfections. what they suck at last 10 years is battery life and panels.
Really disappointed with Intel's power hungry 12th gen CPUs when you see what Apple has achieved with their M1 chips 😐. As someone who uses Linux I can't wait until Asahi Linux matures and is ready to be a daily driver.
Watch my video of the Samsung Galaxy Book2 Pro. I'm working on a battery test tonight. I think it'll be right up there with M1 and unless you're doing video editing you won't see a difference in power
You legend, no one got a review yet!
Laptop itself with 12th Gen processor doesn't seem to match the hype though. I was hoping for a review like this on battery life. I will go ahead with an 11th Gen XPS 13 at a massive discount.
Lol thx! I'm shocked to be first. I don't know what's going on with 12th gen....I think we're going to learn more in April.
PS: check out the Razer Book 13 before you pull the trigger on that XPS. It's not on massive sale though.
I've been waiting for this laptop to come out since at least November. Very disappointed about the battery life, although priced at $3,500 I'm not too disappointed since the alternatives are cheaper. Thank you for this review, I've been waiting like a hawk for a review to come out for months.
I’ve been waiting on this laptop for like 6 years to hit its peak. It disappoints every year. I bought one for work, it’s okay but I’m moving on from the x1 for a personal laptop.
@@ChannMakhna I made the painful decision to get the mac laptop with the m1 pro chip. I never thought I would go apple but the windows options are so disappointing especially in terms of things that should be standard by now such as no fan noise and reliable battery life. Apple just makes better machines
@@LeBarnzini agree but I can’t get used to MacOS lol I’ve tried! The Samsung laptops look promising.
Please tell me, does the laptop have the rubbery coating material that is soft on touch or is it more plasticky? I have seen both in X series
You dont have to spend 3500. Theres a thing called customization to where you can get the price a lot lower.
I was surprised to see this video recommendation from TH-cam. I have been searching hard for my next business laptop, torn between x1 carbon gen 9 (or 10!), X13, x13 yoga or even the M1 MBA for its amazing battery life. Glad to see this review, guess I won't wait for this gen 10 given the limited upgrade.
What did you end up getting? How is it working for you? Desperately trying to buy a good workhorse buz laptop as my current one is a dud
@@kadila14 I ended up with Thinkbook 14+ i7-12th gen 32gb ram 2.8k resolution screen. Still waiting to be shipped though
Thanks...hopefully it works out!!
They just launched custom orders and didn't get the 2k screen due to the mention here of bad battery life. I did get the 1280P processor. I'll test the battery life once I get it and update in the comments. Only reason I ordered is that I desperately needed a replacement for my slowly failing current laptop
Thanks!
Any update??
Update please
Battery life update please.
I've been waiting for someone to do a review of this! Thanks so much!!
I've been waiting for the X1 Carbon Gen 10, but I think I'm going to wait to see what happens w/ The new T14s.
That's a good call!
You're welcome.
Thanks for your share!
So the gen 10 gets：
performance ➕
noise control ➕
camera ➕
battery life ➖➖（That‘s not a good news cause i intended to choose 4K display option🥲）
I'm glad I saw this before I pulled the trigger on the laptop. New job working from home has told me to get a laptop of my choosing to expense. Do you have a video about best laptop(s) for working from home?
MBP is developed from Apple and this is a big advantage, on the other hand thinkpad is evolved from Intel, Microsoft and Lenovo and i think all knows how well developed is Microsoft's software. thank you for your review!
You bet!
Thanks for making this review. Been eyeing the Gen 10 for a while.
Excellent review. I was extremely excited and hyped about the new 12th gen P-series CPUs, but I guess I shouldn't have had too high of an expectation. Maybe it'll get better with updates from intel as you've mentioned. Like your concise and informative style of review.
I'm about to post a review of the new Samsung Galaxy Book 2 pro. Same chipset but absolutely incredible
Just found your channel by chance when I was looking into buying a laptop later down the road this year.
Subscribed and look forward to watching more reviews!
Thank you so much! I've been demonetized so I don't get a lot of promotion by YT.
Thank you for the review! I value the battery life so so much on laptops and was looking forward to Alder Lake's power efficiency improvements, so of course the few reviews I saw so far have been big disappointments. Especially now that Apple proved that we CAN get amazing battery life.
It is quite disappointing
Waited for this review ! Thank you! Waiting now for updated Dell xps 15 and 17 with 12 gen review as a last hope for Intel processor.
They are already available!
@@redouanchapie I know. But noone made a real life test yet. Hope Tech Adventure will be first again :)
thank you for making this video. All the important aspects covered. Please Make more content.
Also you have successfully convinced me to keep my MacBook Pro I bought last week. As much as I love Windows, this MacBook Pro is on a whole another level. Speaker quality, screen , battery life, and performance is exceptional on the MacBook. Some of the things/apps I use don't work on my Mac, but I can't make a compromise on everything else. I'm willing to spend but window just doesn't have an alternative no matter how much money you pay. 3400 for this? NO SIR
Hey thanks for the detailed comment. And congratulations on your MB. Which one did you get?
Lenovo always have crazy sales. I'm guessing this will be $2500 before too long.
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I got the 14 inches, mid-tier ($2499, currently 2249 on best buy)
Nice!
could you share what apps don't work? They just don't work or do not have MacOS versions?
This was the most impressive laptop review I've ever seen! I was considering purchasing this model but I'm also disappointed about the battery life. Should I choose x1 yoga instead of this model then? If you recommend other models, it really helps me!
Thanks! I’d look at the new AMD based laptops. They’re beginning to trickle out.
@@TechAdventure1 good idea but I need intel and nvidia combo for my work. Should I go previous gen then? I heard 11th gen chip is heating so much.
Oh in that case try to find the Lenovo Slim 7i Carbon. It’s 11th gen Intel with an NVIDIA low power GPU. Good if you don’t need a poop ton of GPU power.
@@TechAdventure1 oh I’ll check it out!! Thanks a lot :)
Thanks for the review. It would be worth mentioning that maybe Windows 11 scheduler isn’t yet ready for efficient power management regarding this new CPU.
It's 28 watt processor, instead of 15 watt like in previous x1.
The battery life won't get better
I’m not surprised by the battery life you’re getting. I’ve had the issue with multiple Lenovo laptops, where the battery life is grossly overstated and I never even get close to what they claim the laptop should get. But it seems to be getting worse with every new generation.
Dang I'm sorry to hear that. In this case, with brand new efficient processors from intel, the tech world was expecting better battery life than this. And this is probably still the only example that we have of practical application of these processors, at least for the next couple of days.
thanks for the authenticity, so appreciated
Could you measure power use in idle (with coretemp?) to see how many watts it uses. I just ordered one and I am worried after your review. Maybe you should also try to install win10 and compare with win11
Battery life can improve on a laptop post-release, from driver/BIOS updates. If they aren't designed well they might leave devices on, burning power. For example, people who run Linux on older ThinkPads (thus needing to configure everything themselves) see huge battery life improvements from fixing config/driver errors (on the order of 2x). Obviously it shouldn't be *that* bad on a modern device, but it's still possible.
Bigger battery probably isn't happening, at least on Gen 9 the chassis is packed; the only open space is reserved for WWAN antennas.
seems like various laptops with intel 12th gen have battery life problems. not sure why, but online I saw similar cases with other models
I really really hope it improves by updates... You cannot call a laptop only lasts 4hours a mobile laptop
Just got the 9th gen version because of these battery horror stories!
I’m tempted to purchase the i5 u chip which may possibly bring better battery life. But I went through a dell xps 13 plus before this and it was the same song and Dance. These p series chips are horrendous for battery.
Great video !
Mind sharing more about the XPS plus? It’s heavily discounted at Best Buy which shocked me. Something must be wrong.
@@TechAdventure1 I had the xps13 plus oled variant. Laptop was awesome. I enjoyed the keyboard, build quality was awesome. Screen… holy sh#^. It was honestly really great. Battery life wasn’t the greatest. Maybe 5 hours on better battery with screen brightness increased a 40% after enabling. This was with light use with excel and a pdf open. But I did opt for the highest config available.
Watching movies on the screen I watched 2 episodes of 1883 and dropped about 21%. I’m not exact guru with computers but seems the battery would have been closer to an 8 hour mark with just watching videos.
I work in a construction type field so my main reason for returning was 1) way to nice for the environment I was in . I couldn’t imagine bringing that to a roof in the elements.
And 2) I really would have enjoyed a longer battery life. I did reduce the resolution in the field and was getting closer to 7.5 hours… but I can get close to 12 doing the same type of deals with my use case on this Thinkpad.
Laptop was also a bit warm. But nothing that bothered me. I didn’t cap any kind of power because i don’t know how to do all that lol. All In all great laptop. But just wasn’t a good fit for my case. I purchased out of want because it looked amazing, and didn’t factor in everything.
Also, Touch Bar was fine. Responsive. I liked it much more than the Touch Bar on the previous MacBooks I had . No issues with speakers . And The trackpad was the best I’ve personally used on a windows laptop. Right up there with MacBooks which I have used .
I'm happy to hear about the trackpad and touch bar, but man...the poor battery life of the 12th gen Intel CPUs continues to be a problem.
@@TechAdventure1 I agree. When the u series is more available I wonder if it will suit these thin and lights better in the battery front
@@jordanmocny2690 How are you liking the gen x1x gen 9? What do you think of the keyboard? I recently got my gen 9 but im wondering if maybe I should return it for the gen 10.
I think, apart from a nicer camera and a quieter fan, the gen 10 is not that much different compared to gen 9. Lenovo might have reached the limit in improving the X1 carbon line. Eager to see what they will do next, and what other new Thinkpad lines (Z series, T14s gen 3...) have to offer!
You may be on to something for sure. I think the Z series looks interesting for sure. But I won't sleep on the G10 quite yet. Let's see what the OLED displays look like and if battery efficiency improves.
LPDDR5.
How it works with Linux?
This is a light and thin portable laptop, not a video editing workstation. I would much rather have 4 cores/8 threads and 12+ hours of battery life VERSUS 12 cores/16 threads and 4+ hours of battery life :o( Maybe Lenovo will throw in the 9W-29W or at least the 15W-55W U-Series 12th gen processors as they have advertised instead of this 28W-64W processor. The U-Series is still really not out in any laptop at this time so here is hoping for that.
I'm thinking about getting either the X1 Carbon Gen 10 or T14 Gen 3... was favoring the T14 but since it has a smaller battery (53 vs 57) I'm a bit disappointed.
I'm wondering how the i7 1265u (an option for the T14) would perform in battery since it's a 15w... but then again, with battery modes you can already make these 28w P chips be 15w = back to the review results... I'm so lost haha
From Lenovo's own PSREF the differences between Gen 2 vs Gen 3 are not that bad, even with their crappy benchmark standard/approach, but what REALLY bothered me is how bad the T14 Gen 3 is compared to the X1 Carbon Gen 10. Based on "psref" specs alone (using the similar configurations) T14 would be half the results here = big WTF
I'm really trying to play around with configs and see "benefits" in other areas but for 2k+ euros these machines should be crazy solid
Wondering how different the latest Dell Latitudes/Precisions would be compared to this...
The 10th Gen X1 Carbon does come with 2 display options (both 4K) that have 500 nits of brightness. One of them is Glossy (which is a NO go for me) and the other is an anti-glare screen but both of those options are an add-ons that add $240-ish or more to the price of the laptop. I'm wondering if the lowish battery life can be attributed to the 12th gen P chipset. I've heard other say that the efficiency cores are NOT giving them improved battery life as one would expect.
RE 12th gen battery: I believe it is. They're running hot.
Okay, I'm gonna get this
Thanks and this is what I am hearing as well. This price needs better brightness and better battery. Battery is most likely 12 gen intel
Great review
Waiting for extreme gen 5 review ❤️
The battery life can be compromised by the Lenovo vantage software settings. I would look into that first before claiming its bad.
Great review, was helpful
Amd version with a brighter screen would be perfect. The 14s Gen 3 will have amd versions and better screens. Should resolve everything that is bad with this one. I haven't found a single review for it though...
Thanks for this. You saved me. The things you did not like would have been a deal breaker for me and return policies here in Chile are terrible.
Happy to help!
appreciate the honesty
Do you think, a Gen 9 would be a good buy? If one compares it to Gen 10? They usually put the older model on sale when the new one comes out. Thanks, great review by the way.
100% the Gen 9 is an awesome laptop and the current discounts make it a great choice.
@@TechAdventure1 Thanks, I think a gen 9 with 32 gig ram and 1 tera SSD storage is the way to go then
100% that should last you a very long time.
I think after M1 came out to the world everybody sees that laptop differently as M1 provide something that really Intel or AMD laptop PC could not provide. M1 provides normal use people less heated laptop and less energy-consuming laptop and also silent laptop. So, we may expect something close to those experiences that Apple provides today. It seems that still Intel 12th Gen can not do as much as M1 does. Then, I believe the best timing for the new Intel laptop with a noticeably better experience should be for the next Gen... I hope.
12th gen Intel can do one (and I think exactly one :P) thing that M1 can't: run Windows (and Linux) and x86 VMs and Docker images. Other than that, M1 is just better, sadly... Oh, and Intel can be bough at VASTLY different pricepoints, while M1 has quite high lower-end cutoff, the MacBook Air. It's great value, but still expensive
@@Qrzychu92 Lmao x1 carbon gen 10 is way more expensive than a damn m1 air with 16 gb ram. And it totally outclasses the Thinkpad by a long margin. Can even run circles around it in regards to virtualising docker images through parallels.
@@PsycosisIncarnated yeah, but you can buy E14 for half of the M1. That's the point.
And it will be as fast as X1 carbon
Gracias por hacer este video, sin duda eres el primero! Decepcionado por el procesador, solo reafirma lo bien que lo esta haciendo apple. Por el precio prefiero el Gen9, sin duda; Por otra parte, para mí la cámara de 720p es suficiente (no soy muy guapo!!!). Saludos desde Chile.
I just received this yesterday - and it seems like there's a huge design flaw when you opt for touch-screen. When the laptop gets hot, the warm air from the exhaust goes to the screen, and is triggering phantom screen presses on the touch screen. Basically, the computer thinks I'm spam tapping the bottom of my screen, making the computer useless until I get it cooled off.
That’s jacked up! I haven’t heard about that anywhere.
@@TechAdventure1 indeed. I'm also still trying to find confirmation of a broader issue (which i think it is). But so far, there are very few reviews online. I experienced it several times on the first day of light use.
Maybe it can be solved with firmware update, not sure. But for now I think I'll disable touch input
@@ReneScott Does your laptop get heated up on the left side? I normally leave my left hand on the left side of hte laptop, and it got hot, I have a T14 gen 1, and that never happened, the x1 heats way more than the T14 (and I thought i was upgrading)
@@inexkeciblei think so. I don't use it as much as I'd like due to the horrible battery life
@@ReneScott Dang, I just bought one today, and my hand was getting so hot, since i was a gamer, my hand normally rests on the QWER keys. I tried returning but the seller said no no. I bought it for arond 500usd... I thought it was a pretty good deal with 32gb ram 1tb ssd touch screen. :(
I would like this laptop with an integrated ethernet port ...
Would be great if you could share your thoughts on the key travel of X1C gen 10 vs gen 9! Some complain that on gen 9, the keys are actually shallower than advertised and bottom out too quickly; so, their fingers hurt typing for a long period.
I used the G9 for a while. I never had pain, fortunately. I just got in another G10 for review, this time from Lenovo. I can’t do a direct comparison since I no longer have the G9 review unit.
I am wondering the same thing. I purchased a x1c gen 9 and an x13 gen 3 because I couldnt make up my mind. I will returning the x13 but The keyboard is much better than the x1c gen 9. If the keyboard on the x1c gen 10 is like the on e on the x13 than I would return both and get the gen 10.
@@user-pc5dk7gp4b just curious, if the X13 keyboard is better, then why did you return it instead of the X1C?
@@antonivt the screen was too small for me. The .7 inches make a big difference. Also the x13 gets crazy hot under normal load web browsing.
@@user-pc5dk7gp4b did you have X13 AMD or intel?
For gen 9:
PDF psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_Gen_9/ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_Gen_9_Spec.pdf
MobileMark® 2014: 21.3 hr
MobileMark 2018: 16.7 hr
JEITA 2.0: 26.0 hr
So indeed, we can expect worse battery time with gen 10, but not that bad
Thank you for the review. Im planning to get a laptop for my work purpose (heavily usage of Microsoft office). Would you recommend X1 carbon Gen 10? or any better choice for me?
It’s a good laptop. Just has average battery life. I think you’ll be happy with it.
To be honest, I dont think any window laptop cant compare with Apple M1 and M1 Max, that something is really different. Intel and AMD need to work harder
Yeah well apples done is really something, but value is defined by a multitude of factors. One of those, is subjective. Meaning the buyer will imagine their life with the device and how they feel during that time will affect their purchase emotionally. That's not to discount what buyers go through. In fact Apple have capitalized on the emotional elements of a purchase for decades.
In other words, even though this laptop isn't as efficient as the Apple m1 laptops, it still has tremendous value to certain buyers. Including myself.
Why is this the the only x1 gen 10 review in youtube?
Good question!
@@TechAdventure1 Can I get an answer please? thanks!
Dude I have no idea
Because the product is absolute crap. And no "professional" reviewer would touch it since it would mean bashing it and destroying the relationship with Lenovo. This is actually a good question and it the answer is rather disturbing.
I own a Thinkpad X1 Carbon (6th gen)...Generally speaking there are many things to like about it. Lightweight, Matte display, great port selection but reliability wise it's been the WORST laptop when it comes to reliability (e.g., HDMI died at 13 months (just outside of warranty, touchpad disappears periodically and it requires a reboot to get it back, etc.)). And by the way Lenovo acknowledges that the HDMI failure is the result of a Lenovo design flaw with the motherboard (Fix requires replacing motherboard) but they REFUSE to address it even though mine failed 1 month beyond the warranty....That's a deal breaker for me. I'll NEVER purchase another Lenovo system because of that. I reward vendors who support their products and do the right thing by their user. Lenovo FAILS miserably on this measure.
Lenovo is disrespectful
Great review, so between the Apple 16" Macbook Pro M1 max or the Lenovo X1 carbon Gen 10, which one would you choose?
Thanks! I have the 14" MBP M1 and I recommend it over the Carbon Gen 10. Better battery, display, and keyboard (I know...).
Thanks for the review. I was looking on this laptop (and bunch of others) but seems like I will end up getting Macbook pro. Seems like no one is able to get the battery life Apple is getting with their M1 pro.
I really like my 14” MacBook Pro. Great battery life.
Awesome review. So between Dell XPS 15 /13 or X1 carbon Gen10, which one would you recommend, if mostly i am working with MS office apps (mainly excel). I am a window user so not sure if i consider Mac Pro.
Hmm XPS 15 is larger than 13. Is portability super important? There is a 1.5LB difference between 13 and 15.
I recently picked up the MB Pro 14. It's really something...but opening office apps is slow for me (again. I had this issue with M1 Pro 13). Once the app is loaded in memory it's fine. So if you go that route you may want to consider 16 or 32 GB of RAM. And unlike most Windows machines, Macs depreciate slower. So the added RAM would further slow the value burn.
@@TechAdventure1 Unfortunately, I have to use some excel add-in tools which Mac doesn’t support. So I have to go for window laptops only. I am bit confused between xps vs x1 carbon and which gen 9 or 10?
Carbon gen 9 is solid. A proven product. XPS has limited ports, if that matters to you. Carbon G10 isn't a bad product. It's fast and very well built.
Do the phone buttons (F10 and F11) work on any VoIP program like Microsoft Teams, Viber, etc.?
Great Review, what is the screen refreshing rate?
Thanks! 60
Concern here is the battery life, how is it not good, the entire point of Intel going to hybrid cores was to add efficiency cores wtf is Intel doing then.
Agreed! There’s something more to the story. Notice there aren’t any tech tubers releasing reviews about this one? And there aren’t many 1260P laptop reviews out there at all. Unless it’s a touchscreen 2-in-1 with a built in excuse for 8ish hours of battery life.
Intel 12th gen laptop battery sucks but we need TB4 for these kinds of premium Ultrabook due to limited ports. Otherwise, AMD should be a better alternative as It has been proven in recent G14 reviews that AMD Rembrandt mobile CPU has even better efficiency then last gen AMD.
Imagine this with incoming OLED panel option, 2-3 hours battery life for sure :(
Good comments. If I needed a gaming laptop I would get that G14. But I only need a work machine RN. Btw check out my review of the Samsung Galaxy Book2 Pro. Battery life is way better.
@@TechAdventure1 having X1 Carbon using R7 6800U is interesting, exchanging TB4 port for better battery life. Or we can look into lower end model like T14s which has both AMD/Intel option with OLED 2.8k panel
AMD Ryzen series 6000 can normally (if implemented by the manufacturer) have USB4 which is TB3 compatible. So not the latest TB4 but its not like TB4 brought that much improvements anyway.
So yeah you can use TB docks and even eGPU with AMD chips from now on.
Too bad lot of PCs will still use 5000 series this year. We could see a lot of PC (especially gamer PCs) switching to Ryzen 6000 H/HS/HX series but it seems the selection for 6800U will be limited.
That is annoying... I was waiting for this year to upgrade my Surface Pro 5, I need at least TB3 but there is no way I wanted the 11th gen Intel quad-core chips.
I was really expecting Intel 12th gen to be good because I knew those would be the more widespread and they are in terms of perfs. But it seems Intel redlined them and sacrificed efficiency dramatically. So now I have choice between those toasters and Ryzen 6000U that are almost non-existent in ultrabooks right now :(
great review! what is a great alternative for X1 Carbon Gen10?
Hmmm Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro, Dell XPS 15 (13 gets too hot), MacBook Pro, Razer Book 13.
For that amount of money you get a asus rog flow x13 with really high end cpu gpu, thin / portable/ powerful / 2 in 1 ....
Super intriguing device!
Hi nice video
Wt is the name of laptop stand backside you are using ??
Amazon basics - metal. It’s cool 😎
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Please provide same product link
I am still resisting switching over to A1 Mac because I hate the Mac, so was looking for a laptop for my Lightroom and Premiere pro editing.
What's your feeling, is this ThinkPad going to be somewhat up for the task? And will the battery able to keep-up for at least 4-5 hours with that load (which the cheapest Macbook Air easily does)?
I would wait for other reviews to go up before ruling out the X1. It's possible I have a dud or an update is coming that will address the battery life.
I'm currently testing the Galaxy Book2 Pro. It's 10.5 hours into the same looping video test as the Carbon, and it has 8% battery remaining. And it's not in battery saver mode! Plus, synthetic benchmarks are higher than the Carbon in my review (again I could have a bad unit). I'm keeping the Book2 instead of switching to Mac.
Did the battery life improve with updates? As I understand, Intel 12th Gen was not very compatible with Win 11 earlier, which caused high battery degradation but now things seem sorted!
Oh that's great to hear! I didn't have it long enough to see an improvement. If this is true, that's awesome news.
where did you hear this?
@@xenonmob Forums. Typically Reddit and random Google reviews.
Do you think something may be wrong with the unit itself? everyone else seems to say the brightness is okay and the battery life is bad but not as bad as you are saying. just curious if you ruled out anything is wrong with the unit itself.
Good question. I just got a new unit from Lenovo for review. The display seems similar from my recollection. But I need to run a new battery test following a recent firmware update.
A smaller 65W GaN adaptor is an option
Do You Need To Have BLOOD Running Through Your Finger For The FingerPrint Reader To Work Or CAN Someone Cut Your Finger Off and Stilll Use It to UNLOCK The Computer, A Good Password Still Sounds BETTER.
Could you Please tell me, does the laptop have the rubbery coating material that is soft on touch or is it more plasticky? I have seen both in X series. I am trying so hard to find the laptop with that nice rubbery coating, but no luck.
Hi, typical coating
Thinkpad user since 2006. Sad to see the battery life not keeping up with the processor/generation upgrades. Seriously considering going to the dark side --- macbook m1. Everything is a web app anyway these days. So, all I need is chrome + virtual machines/docker. Dont want to..... but I see no other option for now.
I'm not a big Mac fan, but I did roll an M1 MacBook Pro for 9 months. Lovely to use until it came to office apps. They were slow as mud to open. I've briefly tested the new 14" models and they're much faster..
@@TechAdventure1 thanks . will test out m1 14 inch this weekend . Still prefer Linux ThinkPads at heart :)
How would you run Linux VMs on a Macbook? (Podman? Vmware Fusion?) I am asking because my new employer will give me a Macbook as a work machine, would prefer a Thinkpad, but that's the way it is.
In my opinion M1 Pro is the best laptop, but the ARM architecture is really limiting if you work with docker container and VMs. I work with a lot of x86 containers, I can't think of using them in emulation mode (that is very very slow).
@@lorisbelcastro1422 Thanks for the info. What would be the benefit of using emulation mode? Do you need software that is not yet available for ARM?
Due to supply chain problems it might take a few more months until I get the new machine, so until then I will keep on working with WSL 2 Linux on my old Yoga machine.
Great review. Thank you. Although Nano screen is not 4K, can the Nano power a 4K external monitor?
Thanks! I bet it can. I’m unsure though. When I get the Nano 2 I can test it.
Is it possible if you can use linux and again do a battery review ? If not do you think that linux will increase the battery life ? By the way waiting for custom option like gen 9 on this laptop.
Hi there, sorry I don't know anything about Linux....
Do you recommend buying x1 carbon instead of macbook pro 14"? I'm not able to choose....
Are you using an iPhone? If so, go MacBook. I chose MacBook because of iPhone and I really like the build quality and battery life.
Lenovo has good return policy… really? I had a big drama with them last year.. and I returned the first faulty one for a replacement of exact same x1 extreme model and they sent m a cheaper different model.. then another return with dead pixels I had to escalate the whole issue to BBB to have it sorted… I am telling u they return is definitely not something u wanna try.
I've done it, twice. Worked without issue. The policy is good. But it sounds like execution is suspect.
How much did you get this laptop for?
Waiting for the new T14 G3 for which Lenovo claimed "all day battery" to replace my old T450s. I now notice T14 G3 and X1C G10 uses the same i7 CPU, so the battery on oT14 G3 probably would be disappointing as well. What's going on Intel?!
I understand your reasoning but check out my review of the Galaxy Book2 Pro. I'm getting above average battery life.
who on earth plays an endless video for 7 hours
how about the display? is it total pwm free?
The are selling a 1920x1080 laptop for 2-3k€ its beyond dumb.
Would you recommend a Carbon 9th gen, or a XPS 15 9520 for a finance major?
If you’re hitting those XLSX files a lot I’d go 15” XPS.
Great review. Such a shame about the battery. Guess I'm skipping this model. So lame
Iam on Apple platform for several years. I would like to jump on Windows platform but It looks that laptop on Windows are not has powerful than new macbook pro produce 2022. Which Windows laptop should I choose? I need 8 Tb storage under the hood!
Thanks for your answer!
Man I guess you could look at the ThinkPad T series. Storage of that size isn’t found on other product lines.
Sir, is this device enabled with esim
Does it have second ssd or not?
any improvements in the battery life recently are does it continue to be bad?
I returned it
Thank you for this review.
But I want to say that this model has a i71260p processor and it’s really weaker than i51240p in benchmark side which is really confusing.
If you search about benchmark of these processors on the internet you’ll find this result. x1 carbon with core i51240p costs 2879$ ,and it doesn’t have PCle gen 4 as the model on this video. Maybe PCle gen 4 needs more battery. So I expect the x1 carbon with i51240 is more powerful in benchmark and has better battery life.
You're welcome!
Lenovo disappointed me. First this laptop isn't customizable like gen 9 where there was an option to customize the hardware specification according to your needs. Secondly, obviously the battery life. I believe that the intel gen 12 was designed for better battery life and power but this looks one way. I agree about the power and speed but at what cost ? Third, the price. Fourth why they only have soldered ram option, is it upgradable ?
I was seriously looking forward to this laptop.
Is there any similar but better laptops ?
Usually Lenovo only sells pre-made reference models at the beginning until they can ramp up production. The possibility to customize will probably arrive a couple of weeks/1-2 months after the official release.
Intel smoke bombed everyone with their 12th gen. They focused on performance only and talked about their efficiency cores but never talked about the impact on battery.
Because they are still on their 10nm process, Alder Lake is a muuuuch bigger chip than Tiger Lake so it consumes like crazy. I was hyped too but again Intel dropped the ball.
Not sure when you last checked Lenovo site but when I checked today there was at least 1 sku for the 10thGen that allowed you to configure the X1 however you liked...including 4 screen options.
I bought a Lenovo 15 inch two years ago. Horrible battery life, maybe 2 hours. Great laptop if it is plugged in. So, it seems Lenovo has not improved the battery life.
I’m not sure what else they could do to improve battery life. Even with the dim screen on this more entry-level model, as you saw the battery life is not good. I believe it’s falls on both Intel and Microsoft for how the new 12 series processors are being read by windows.
Is it the touch screen killing the battery?
Nope - poor optimization by Microsoft, apparently.
Only 1125 Geekbench 5 single core? Did you run it on power or battery? I expected more like 1700 from 12th gen CPUs.
Right? Plugged in and in best performance mode.
@@TechAdventure1 So disappointed. Thank you for the really helpful review.
You're welcome. I'm chatting with Lenovo about it. I may have an update soon.
This is not right, for sure.
Très déçu car j'attendais cette machine depuis longtemps et pour moi l'écran est très important ainsi que la batterie !!... tant pis, j'attendrais l'année prochaine. Merci, super vidéo !
restez à l'écoute pour un examen d'un autre ordinateur portable avec le même chipset Intel. Je pense qu'il pourrait être très excité à ce sujet
hi everyone, can this laptop easily handle 20-50 google chrome tabs? since im a heavy user of youtube, lot of websites going on, so usually 20-50 tabs running behind, so Im super curious if this machine could handle 20-50 tabs with a few windows opened, please help !!!
Should i get the last year’s version with a U chip for less price and more battery? Thank you
This one is still an upgrade in many ways. So if price is not a major factor, get this one.
Lenovo just can't get their nits right. Just forget it. Just can't understand the company that uses bad screens as a tradition.
Preach
Hello, thanks for the video, I'm from Saudi Arabia, I would like to mention that there is an option "Design by yourself" in the official website where you can choose the special specifications you want, and unfortunately this option is not available in the official Saudi website, because if I buy from the "Design by yourself" option it will not come With an Arabic keyboard, is there a solution? Can I buy the device and then buy an Arabic keyboard and exchange it for the device I own?
Hello! I am not familiar with this. The Carbon series do not have replaceable keyboards, to my knowledge.
BTW - my family is from the middle east!
I suspect this generation will not be remembered fondly. Bad battery life, subpar keyboard (relative to older gens), low nit panel. Not good and the 12th gen hybrid cpu is definitely not living up to the hype - at least not with this model. I knew something was up when Lenovo omitted battery life verbiage from their promo material. I was expecting massive battery life gains, but if its the same (or worse) than previous gens, then why not opt for those instead at steep discounts?
I returned the carbon and picked up the new Galaxy Book2 Pro. It's a special laptop. I can't judge the battery yet but it has restored my faith in the new 12th gen CPUs. I'll try to publish a video of it today.
@@TechAdventure1 I think that was a smart move on your part. Looking forward to your video on the Book2 Pro. Great review btw!
Thank you! Video should be up in an hour
What is screen refreshing rate? Is it 60hz or 120hz?
60
Thinkpad Keyboards are great !
Its looks like Intel 12th gen P processors is very hungry for power. (
Unfortunately…yes
does it throttle heavy under load?
I didn't push it too hard, other than the synthetic tests. For my use it didn't appear to throttle.
so does it support face recognition?
Some models do
Is it charging through type C cable?
Yes
@@TechAdventure1 Thanks, then it's just a great laptop!
I still have my Gen 2. Will not "upgrade" until AMD cpu's are an option.
There’s the x230 right? Thoughts on that?
@@TechAdventure1 Don't know. I'm in the market for a 14" thinkpad.
I'm also thinking about just skipping the laptop for now and grabbing a P620 workstation.
I like the p series!
这电池太烂了呀兄弟们，简直就是半成品...... 唯一的希望就是等后面更新系统......要是他不更新，那我为什么不买性能更好的本，反正都一样得插电用，商务了个寂寞属于是.......
Way to true. The battery life absolutely sucks. Intel is just so far behind........ everyone should just ditch them. And to call them upper or even a mid-level laptop at this point would just be false.
At least we get power...and many manufacturers have done a good job of being creative with design (ZenBook Duo, Razer Book, ZenBook S). But I'm with you - they just run too hot and battery life suffers.
What's the chance that your issues with battery life could be down to Windows 11? Pretty big if you ask me, this being an all new CPU architecture. Same with brightness. Sounds like the OS is messing it up.
I wish I had the answer. I reached out to Lenovo for some help related to all of my findings. We're working on it but they're not commenting on battery life.
@@TechAdventure1 I've seen people comment about worse battery life on the gen 9 as well after upgrading to Win 11. There isn't any way you can downgrade to Win 10 to see if the battery behaves better?
Intel marketing is full of poopoo. I knew the E cores were pure marketing to outdo the number of cores AMD provide. And the quiet launch of these new laptops prove me right. More powerfull but not the ultra efficient processors they told us. After all, the 12900k spike at 350w, when the 5950x spike at 140.
I've been scratching my head about this launch. I mostly focusing on the laptops, and the releases are all over the map in terms of timing and publicity. Apple sure has Intel scrambling.
lenovo is like bmw for laptops. they don't change things that work. if anyone knows better keyboard in laptop please let me know. I've recently bought and tried out samsung book2 pro. the key travel is shallow. lenovo keyboards are just perfections. what they suck at last 10 years is battery life and panels.
Really disappointed with Intel's power hungry 12th gen CPUs when you see what Apple has achieved with their M1 chips 😐. As someone who uses Linux I can't wait until Asahi Linux matures and is ready to be a daily driver.
Watch my video of the Samsung Galaxy Book2 Pro. I'm working on a battery test tonight. I think it'll be right up there with M1 and unless you're doing video editing you won't see a difference in power