The Ride Series How To: Drops UPDATE

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  • @nigellax454
    @nigellax454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Hey Rich. Your attitude about being corrected in your last video is gonna get someone hurt. You’re dropping the same way as literally every other biker, including myself. From the slow-mo on the hammer, you’re literally doing the motions of a manual off of it, stopping just before your front tire lifts. It’s your bad you can’t understand that’s what other coaches are saying. You’re justifying to describe the same thing that every other tutorial does except you’re describing it wrong. There is no “push down”, there is an extension forward followed by a readjustment in body position for the transition on drops with some serious air time. Your drop looked smooth as butter. That doesn’t change this though: NO ONE PUSH DOWN on a drop. You’re describing the “manual technique” as if you have to manual off of it, which no one would ever recommend for learning as you well know the front wheel could drop into oblivion. The “manual technique” of dropping is just the shifting of your body down and back at the same time without the arms pulling the bars at all... or, the first two steps of popping a manual. What you’re describing will work at speed for an experienced rider, but will send any hesitant intermediate rider to a dentist. Come on, man. Most of your videos are so good to learn from, so take my advice..! Don’t get so offended that you have to post a come-back to the commenters who probably have just as much knowledge as you. Your tone this whole video was like a spoiled kid. You didn’t do a great job of breaking down a drop into steps, as many youtubers have done, it’s not the end of the world. There’s only a single “1” in the L column, take your beats like a man.

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Hey Nigel! Thanks for the input man.

    • @tabbasi
      @tabbasi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pretty spot on.

    • @tabbasi
      @tabbasi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I looked at this video and I am like "finally this looks like a normal drop!"

    • @johnfitzgerald7891
      @johnfitzgerald7891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Sorry, not seeing the manual you're talking about. Looks more like the #1 is a down unweight similar to snow skiing technique of dropping down quickly to unweight the skiis but in this case the bike so that it doesn't nose dive off the end of the ramp. #2 looks like you are driving the front wheel down to the desired landing spot. #3 moving to the center to stay balanced and in control.
      All makes sense when you think about it but I can see how it could cause some confusion.
      Rich, love the videos and the live chats, keep up the good work.

    • @DaStuntChannel
      @DaStuntChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I don't see the manual...

  • @villimagg
    @villimagg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I was gonna say something positive but then I saw that almost every comment says the same thing I was thinking. Best drop video on the entire internet!

  • @hardtailparty
    @hardtailparty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    You guys have the best drops @ Coler. They're built SO WELL! Drop the Hammer scared the crap out of me the first time, but it's so well-built that now it's super fun. Thanks for showing this technique on the bigger stuff.

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So true man, it's like a paved highway! Looking forward to seeing you in Sedona.

  • @R0kks0L
    @R0kks0L 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I bet that some of the trolls with the negative feedback or lack of constructive criticism don’t even ride bikes. Joking aside, there is so many ways to do a drop and if they learned how to do it wrong but it works for them. They will never accept a better way than theirs because it is done differently. Can’t teach a stubborn old dog new tricks but those that are learning this trick for the first time, I think it is being illustrated the best possible way to attack drops for the first time. Practice makes perfection and confidence needs to be built before you can do anything higher that a 2’ drop. Keep up the good content ‘Rich’

    • @alex_4cj64
      @alex_4cj64 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, everyone has a different stile

    • @chinson1984
      @chinson1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't see that many trolls, just criticism as no one teaches drops like this and people are concerned for the safety of beginners. Also you should take a remedial course in sentence structure and grammar (now that comment is troll-worthy!).

  • @chancebex5947
    @chancebex5947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Your a Damn Legend at conveying your fundamentals Rich. Good on you for revisiting this topic and proving how your Technique to teaching this skill is absolutley a sound and effective approach. Thanks so much for making these videos and dealing with the peanut gallery.

    • @zigzachmtb2821
      @zigzachmtb2821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chance what's up bud!? Rich is out here dropping knowledge on these fools..lol

    • @chancebex5947
      @chancebex5947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zigzachmtb2821 Yes Indeed class is in session. I've spent the past few weeks in NWA and I can tell you first hand that the area has arguably more big boy lines than almost anywhere I've ever ridden and it takes confidence in your skillset and mind to safely and succesfully land these drops. From Lake Leatherwood Gravity area to "BTE" over at Fitzgerald, Ponca and of course Slaughter Pen and Coler the drops are very intimadating and I've yet to try any of the Big ones but when I do I'll definitely be using Rich's Ride Sereis 1-2-3 technique

  • @ToshJucker
    @ToshJucker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not sure how ANYONE could confuse your first tutorial with “slowing down step 2” you’re like an encyclopedia of all things mountain bike and I appreciate the pointers! Keep up the good work and don’t let them haters get you down 🤙🏻

  • @maplic
    @maplic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the showing of an amazing teacher, not quitting until all of the students master it. Being one of those critical commenters, definitely appreciate the follow up. I will now sit down, shut it, and implement the 123 in my riding, because that is mighty smooth.

  • @TheSpokelore
    @TheSpokelore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent update and clarification on your original 123 points. I especially appreciated getting to see your technique used on different sized drops, as well as from multiple angles-the side view helped me the most and the graphic callouts were a nice added touch. All the best!

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Matt, love hearing this! We put a ton of work into it, especially on the editing side, and it's great to see it appreciated.

  • @serpent7677
    @serpent7677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey! Drew Thanks for the Tip!👍 I’m oldie Guy of 55 yrs old and I like my Drops and jumps at a medium level but there are times I really like to go for the Bigger ones it’s more Fun and uplifting and it makes ur day knowing u just did a Big one if u know what I mean..Thanks again and Great Vid

  • @s0ckeyeus429
    @s0ckeyeus429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm just another dude on the internet, but the only part I don't agree with is hips over BB. I'm a light hands, heavy feet, weight centered over BB, bike moving underneath kind of guy. Hips might be behind the BB or over top. Other than that caveat, the advice in the video is pretty spot on. I appreciate the video spanning a variety of different drops.

  • @classactracing
    @classactracing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Drop it like it's hot - Rich, you're super chill. We love your step by step instruction. Always dropping the knowledge by beating the steps into our heads. So quick to Build us up and then send us out on our own to send some drops with confidence.

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heck yeah dude!! "beating the steps into our heads," has laughing my butt off!!!

  • @scgear3847
    @scgear3847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video.
    I love how willing you are to share your skills and put out great videos.
    You get me excited to get out there and try your techniques or take one of your classes.
    Please do a video on getting over logs next, my nemesis! 😀

    • @robdrew596
      @robdrew596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where did 3 go?

    • @scgear3847
      @scgear3847 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw the lifts video, but not sure how the lift technique changes when your going over a log. When going over a log the front wheel drops, suddenly, would putting you weight forward cause you to go over the bars?

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robdrew596 Well Rob, it was initially called out in the first video. However, here it was not verbally called out while being executed since there wasn't enough time. That being said, there was a tracking callout late in the video that points out the 3rd movement and reminds riders to bring their hips back over the bottom bracket.

  • @scarfacexboy
    @scarfacexboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this tutorial. I've learnt from other videos before which emphasizes on putting your weight to the back but I tend to lend sketchy on those and might roll back if I dont do it right but with your technique I land it perfect everytime. Thanks Rich!

  • @in_10z
    @in_10z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dam I wish I would've watched this before my first trip to Bentonville this year's 2024 Bike Fest. My buddy who is a ripper, parks the truck, goes straight to Drop the Hammer 8AM as says "COME ON follow me". I'm like nope. I need to enjoy this week in one piece haha. This video helped ease those fears. I know it's designed well, but I've never done a drop that big and there are consequences. Next trip out there, looking forward to warming up on those other two drops then hitting DTH. Thanks.

  • @kjj9701
    @kjj9701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rich, your explanation is probably one of the Best I’ve seen on TH-cam. I tried it this morning and totally nailed it at my local bike park. Thank you so much. I can’t wait to hit the bigger drops on my favorite trails this riding season.

  • @maximosmorgan9727
    @maximosmorgan9727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hands down the best video I have ever watched that explains how to do confident drops. I tried it on a couple of decent drops that lands a bit harsh. The 123 drop was smooth and fast!

    • @jdavis417
      @jdavis417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      BINGO! When people stop talking about it and actually put Rich's advice into action, the smoothness, speed and "lack of drama (variables)" ends any debate! That being said, I got caught going too slow on a drop and was thankful to know how to use other methods.

    • @maximosmorgan9727
      @maximosmorgan9727 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't blame you....think about moving head over handle bars in a compact position....as you come off of the drop slowly extend your arms for a front wheel first landing. With bigger drops you will have to extend arms a bit slower. You will get it!

  • @ADVENTUREAROUNDTHEBEND
    @ADVENTUREAROUNDTHEBEND 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For the record I heard the last part of the last video where you said "Slow down the 2nd step to match the drop". Thanks for the videos.

  • @manologarciaantuna4078
    @manologarciaantuna4078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Do not listen to the bad coments you are amazing

  • @LandonArkens
    @LandonArkens ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Rich! I came here to see the speed you’re bringing into drop the hammer. 👍

  • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
    @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    you seduce me... every.... damn.... video... You had me at "You ready? Let's do this..."

    • @TheSaucyMTBr
      @TheSaucyMTBr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rich, since we have Lenosky here (feel free to chime in Jeff), and I was just comparing this to his "How Not To Drop" video, would you say your movement into position 1 is to make yourself lite on the bike as to not get kicked off by any lip on the drop? My take away is that both of you guys are aiming for the same thing through different techniques (springing up vs dropping down). Am I looking at this correctly?

    • @mikeowen000
      @mikeowen000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I literally just watched that video by Jeff yesterday and was wondering the exact same thing. Jeff’s technical explanation makes sense to me (and that’s the example that I follow). It seems like Rich’s technique would be more likely to leave a lot of weight on the back wheel, making it prone to hanging up and causing you to land nose heavy. I’ve only been riding a couple of years though, so there’s probably something that I’m missing there. (I’m also aware that, in most sports, when it comes to technique, there’s more than one path up the mountain, so to speak.)

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikeowen000 check out my comment above! Thanks for watching my video.

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@TheSaucyMTBr Hey Cody, thanks for checking out my video. There's so many nuances to drops. Rich's technique is great for flatter take off's and getting you down as quickly and as safely as possible on a fairly predictable drop. My video was aimed at riding unpredictable terrain, where you there could be something to hang up your back wheel etc. I think we are both on the same page as far as stressing that as a rider you should have some active input on your bike so you don't just go off a drop as a passenger. With Rich's 1-2 style you'd most likely push your bike through some ground inconsistencies as well so it would be good technique. You just don't want to go off a drop, throw your weight back to lift the front wheel and risk hanging up your back. I did another popular video on my channel titled "why you many never need to bunnyhop again" . It ruffled some feathers from bunnyhop die hards. I set the bunnyhop world record years ago so I can bunnyhop pretty well, and on flat terrain it's my preferred technique but my point was, there's never flat ground on a trail so learning the "punch" technique to get over stuff is more versatile in my opinion. I would compare the two drop techniques to the bunnyhop vs punch. Both are tools you need to have in your back pocket, they're just used differently. Make sense?

    • @MTBGarage
      @MTBGarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss So being someone who often gets a bit scared right before a drop and might scrub some speed, I fear that only having the 1-2-3 method as my technique could easily end in a OTB. I know he says "match the timing for your drop" but let's be real, people watching this to learn, are not going to know what that IS until they do it a few times. I think this method is preferred if you're the type to come into things hot and need to make the drop shorter/scrubbed. SO i suggest to all, watch all the videos you can you have options appropriate to your riding style and capabilities! btw I love the "punch" Jeff, great technique.

  • @rav1n3
    @rav1n3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really appreciate that you update the content because of the feedbacks you get. A really good way connecting with the audience.

  • @TheRicardoSanchez
    @TheRicardoSanchez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rich - you're the best dude. I followed your 1-2-3 off moderate drops over weekend and had been too psyched out to do them before this vid. You ultimately have to trust and go - but having that little formula and playing it my head as executed was incredibly valuable. Big enabler! THANKS!!

  • @JoeIsCrazyWillman
    @JoeIsCrazyWillman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, I was there in December... And I spent 45 minutes probably sizing up, analyzing, and testing run ups and pop I wanted... Terrified me, but did it... And in total I did it 7 times that day

  • @rnnyhoff
    @rnnyhoff ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done and well spoken. Don't know whether I'll ever do a drop that big but it's impressive to see it done superbly. Bravo!

  • @dianepalomba7949
    @dianepalomba7949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ride goals for me! I appreciate that you point out different level of skills that are more appropriate than what I've seen on other channels. I look forward to practicing some new skills and attending a class at some point to master those skills. Great work on the videos and content!

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Diane! It's funny you bring that up, it was one of the main reasons for setting out to create and grow this channel. I think some unrealistic expectations are set and that's just not healthy in my opinion. Bikes are meant to bring unbridled joy in my opinion and being more confident, and safer, is key to that happening.
      I look forward to having you attend a class very soon!

  • @joecasalena8263
    @joecasalena8263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super job explaining the drop. I built a five footer on my property and been looking for tips... I can see how Standing tall and spying the landing can help relieve the mental stress of the approach and gives you a que to angle you need to match up with on the way down. I see now that I’ve been way too passive on my drop. Thanks!

  • @cabeasley1
    @cabeasley1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    kudos! I love how you put out the first one, listened to comments, and followed up to clarify, etc. I'll be tuning in again, for sure.

  • @danboisvert6407
    @danboisvert6407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Alright, Alright, Alright. That's what I love about mountain biking, the older I get, the techniques stay the same"

  • @ToogyHowser
    @ToogyHowser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video man! I wish I had watched this before I almost went OTB at Mountain Creek on the Phantom Drop haha

  • @dummkompf
    @dummkompf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    peace out dumpers? lmao that's great, I'm going to say that next time I leave a public bathroom

  • @thebeardedman-drenaline5546
    @thebeardedman-drenaline5546 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that's some Rich information 💰💰 ignore the negative comments brother, these vid. Drops yall are doing are far superior to most anything I've seen so far, keep it up man🙏🙏 and THANK YOU!

  • @alexwolo5632
    @alexwolo5632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brand new MTB rider, liked and subscribed. Thanks for the great videos, you're great at breaking it down and making it approachable. Thank you from Seattle!

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heck yeah Alex! Pumped it's all making sense to you. Hoping to make it up that way for a TRS and to do some filming.

  • @GregoryMSchmidt
    @GregoryMSchmidt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff Rich! Gotta be honest. I’ve ridden up to the end of that takeoff at least 10 times. Still trying to get that nerve up. This perspective helps!

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Greg! Guaranteed you could handle it no problem! I'll tow you in at some point and you'll be kicking yourself for waiting.

  • @justbike5415
    @justbike5415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    pushing the bar works for me in drops with proper timing I was able to do it with 8ft drop the biggest so far ive done. thanks to this video I keep wathching this for refresh me before hitting another drop. 😄

  • @sapyproducts
    @sapyproducts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your technique described in this video is very clear, and it makes total sense. I've done some drops (not the Drop the Hammer), but after watching this video, I want to start practicing your technique. The slow motion helps a lot BTW! 👌

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lovin this feedback. Drop the Hammer is menacing for sure! We were excited about getting the slow mo here to people could really see how dynamic this technique is.

    • @sapyproducts
      @sapyproducts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rich Drew It does look scary, even on video, but your explanation on how to tackle is truly encouraging. Now I just need to visit Bentonville sometime!

  • @neilmccutcheon6046
    @neilmccutcheon6046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome meeting you on the trail the other day! Thanks for the advice. Keep it up man.

  • @jimbob5b200
    @jimbob5b200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inversely we have to start small but the bigger drop allows the viewer more time identify the stages , Nice riding and Nice shirt !

  • @peterpauleyiii7473
    @peterpauleyiii7473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rich, thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom. Keep doing you!

  • @freendeed8410
    @freendeed8410 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep... I over-shot that big on a hardtail the first time off....like huck to flat off the house. Chiropractor on speedial..lol
    Great job. 95% of us got it the first time. Common sense fills in the gaps.
    I appreciate your tips Rich. Great stuff. Respect your expertise 👍

  • @justsayin3600
    @justsayin3600 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing wrong at all with a do- over on your video/s. Even though you get criticism, you stepped up and gave an answer. I like the way you keep it simple. Do a ride series class in Austin, Texas!

  • @pbillings808
    @pbillings808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video you addressed speed. That was the disconnect in your first video. Doing those larger drops without enough speed, 123 WILL end badly. A manual can save you at a slower speed. Slower still and only a pedal will save it (and appropriate gearing).

  • @GrantSpoon
    @GrantSpoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Drew. Very useful and I learn so much from you that I can actually apply. Please do more on jumps. I still don't have the hang of getting air without losing control. Hope to meet you so I can buy you a beer. Thanks mate!

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grant, so glad you're getting something out of the content. We will get some more jump info up very soon.

  • @tomcrawley9338
    @tomcrawley9338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great follow up from previous. Trying to master jumps and drops at 60 is hard enough but your explanations are the best I have seen to date. Great slow mo shots with clear simple steps takes the guesswork out. Just need to practice more now my confidence is higher. Keep em coming. My teacher is my son whose name is Drew. Hope one day he is Rich. Cheers Tom

  • @mountainlessbiking3268
    @mountainlessbiking3268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is a valid technique to teach more advanced riders. I think for most beginners, just surviving is top priority. it's a bit counter intuitive but going faster generally makes matching the landing easier.

  • @dcouture79
    @dcouture79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to come to your classes! I’m a skilled rider and very comfortable on the bike but always struggle on bigger drops and jumps. You make it look so easy and smooth!

  • @rhyslodwick7182
    @rhyslodwick7182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    clear simple and well explained, now just got to get over the "that's way too big for me' bit

  • @mr02gixxer1000
    @mr02gixxer1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video sir, I am practicing my manual, so far I am able to do a manual for 30feet. Only been practicing for three weeks now. I will be using this technique to practice my drops for sure! Really enjoy your how to do jumps video, was practicing jumps with out any clue of how to do it and went over the bar a couple of times. But now my plans for practicing jumps is to start really small and with your technique. And then move to bigger jumps when I fully master the technique of jumping! Thanks again sir, hope to see you florida soon!

  • @GameplayerSolCley
    @GameplayerSolCley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    once again you are so good Rich teacher

  • @shanewright9735
    @shanewright9735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, and I appreciate the clarification! After watching the prior video, I too wondered how this technique would be applied to bigger drops (but being a South Mountain guy, and seeing the results of the Ride series on other riders, I knew there was a simple answer). With that said, I would still like to get a view of this technique applied to large drops to flat. I'm always a little sketched out landing that front wheel to flat first and tend to try to land both wheels at the same time. Maybe if you ever do a Misc techniques video you could include that. Thanks again!

  • @FoCoFlowShow
    @FoCoFlowShow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the update/clarification vid! - the first video definitely left me concerned for new riders trying to “fire down” on bigger drops - love the content - keep em coming!

  • @cedricclark1461
    @cedricclark1461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the technique, and can visualize working myself up to a drop that size.

  • @rylandwillis1128
    @rylandwillis1128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool to see you follow up to the comments! It's a bonus it was so professionally done. +1 sub!

  • @Snipeonz
    @Snipeonz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. You addressed most of the important points that were missed out in the last video. Now let's hope no budding trials riders watches your videos and thinks that this technique is actually applicable to whatever drops they are doing. Cuz that's the one minor point you forgot to mention, that there are drops you can't use a standard drop technique on.

  • @ericavery6099
    @ericavery6099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watched this for the 5th time. Great video as always. Can't wait to visit the MOUNTAINBIKE of the WORLD

  • @jedidiahwest4619
    @jedidiahwest4619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was at that exact spot on Saturday. Even with the fire department there I couldn’t make myself do it. Next time

  • @hyperbunny7054
    @hyperbunny7054 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had no problem understanding the reduction in pushing down speed for higher drops from the first video. I thought you made it clear (and it seems logical). As you normally have a higher roll-in speed to a bigger drop, it also comes naturally. We don’t have many high long drops around, but more very steep drops, where the landing is a short horizontal distance from the lip. That poses a little different challenge, as you can’t roll-in fast (that would mean landing in the flat) but you still need to get over the lip; I use a little/low English bunny hop before the lip to clear it (almost a rear wheel lift only). Just making sure the nose gets down to a nice two wheel landing.

  • @OktaFierce
    @OktaFierce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the tutorials. I'll raise another question. On the bigger drops you are driving the bike forward manual style off the end of the ramps and shooting your ass back almost buzzing your butt on the back wheel to keep the front from diving you OTB, not straight down from the chest like the small drops in the first video, also meaning you aren't maintaining that center over bottom bracket like you originally emphasized.. These are 2 different techniques for rollable drops or non rollable drops, not just a matter of time of lowering the front wheel to the track. It may be that you could maintain a level bike keeping your chest on the bars going off the drop but we'll have to see that in update 3 :D

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great point. I think it's a matter of the technique being nuanced for particular situations. It's much more straight forward on the smaller drops. There's no way the execution can look exactly the same on a bigger drop, as you stated. As far as being over the BB, I can't ALWAYS be there. My goal is to be there as long as I can and get back there as quickly as I can before I land. You can certainly call it two different techniques if you'd like.

    • @OktaFierce
      @OktaFierce 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richdrewtherideseries You do it smooth as silk. First time I saw it mentioned was a small part of a vid by Ben Cathro and started playing with it. Yours are the first I've seen that go into detail. Keep the goods coming this is the pro stuff cheers!

  • @Mariz650
    @Mariz650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make it look so easy!!

  • @pdpd-pd
    @pdpd-pd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    totally agree with your point on manuals. thank you for this breakdown!

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your are doing a great job with these tutorials. Congrats! Greetings from Spain 😉

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!! My brother is actually in Ainsa right now riding, it looks amazing!

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richdrewtherideseries Ainsa - Zona Zero is one of the best mtb spots in Spain. Nice to hear that your bro has come to visit it! Hope he likes it :)-

  • @travistweedle9674
    @travistweedle9674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a location with some practice drops with man made landing slopes and I unknowingly already do them like you describe, But on trails where I am forced to huck to flat I do use the manual technique to ensure both wheels touch down at the same time. I don't know why, it's just what I do with out thinking about it. Then again I'm just an old man that survived a childhood of the 70's and 80's on BMX bikes with no helmet.

  • @parkourandfreerunning4214
    @parkourandfreerunning4214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just to note, there is a slight lift in the front wheel that actually makes you stay level/ parallel to the ground.
    You won't visibly see the lift as you are dropping but you will see clearly that your bike will be leveled/ parallel to the ground because there is a lift keeping the front wheel up leveled.
    The lift prevents you from going over the handlebars.
    If you do the lean back fast enough as you can see the cyclists do, the arms naturally pushed out the handlebars forward, which they actually naturally pulled the handlebars too.
    You don't want to actively pull on the handlebars! This is a mistake you need to avoid!
    Just like the wheelies you don't actively pull the handlebars up, in that case for wheelies, you lose balance and loop out. Your arms are like a string so leaning back and pedalling hard makes, your arms or lets call it the strings they are attached to your body and handlebars causes a slight pull bringing front wheel up when you lean back.
    The drop will have different technique than wheelie.
    What I said above was just saying if you lean back you do naturally push or pull on the handlebars. It's hard to explain.
    You try it on flat ground and you will see what I mean, when you lean back it the lean causes you to push handlebars out slightly but your also pulling them, or when you lean back it causes you to pull which your also pushing the handlebars. It's the same movement whatever way you think about it.
    You should see that your wheel should lift up a bit when doing it on flat ground.
    But don't actively pull the bars as you will lose balance, it's a beginner mistake!

  • @gwynnjason
    @gwynnjason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    at the beginning of the video i was like, "that aint a drop, that's a fall". XD

  • @jeffedmisten6576
    @jeffedmisten6576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes Rich! Greeeaaaat follow up. Perfect explanation, application and most importantly execution. Sure there are many ways to do drops. But this one explained the way you did here is one of the better examples imo. Haters gonna hate though. Personally I'm not quite there yet but I'll do DTH this year. I'm very comfortable with drops the size of the middle drop there at the freestyle park at slaughter pen. A couple guys I rode with @ Coler here a couple weeks ago told me if you can do that middle drop, you can do DTH no prob.
    I rolled to the front... And said maybe so... But not today lol

    • @willbros1499
      @willbros1499 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeff....Hope I don't sound like a blowhard know it all, but I was right where you were a few years back. If you're hitting that drop and landing it well every time without any "close calls," then you have the important part down, which is getting off the end, in control of your bike. It's EXACTLY the same technique, and the only difference is, you're in the air longer so you delay pitching the nose of the bike down to match the landing. That's literally the ONLY difference. Practice at the top of Schroen Train. It's roughly the same size as the middle drop at SP, BUT it has that "going off the end of the world" feeling similar to DTH. I spent a LOT of time on that one getting used to it, and I wanted to know I was going to land DTH 1K out of 1K tries before I did it. REPETITION...just like shooting a free throw, or hitting a golf ball. Muscle memory! When you feel you can do that one in your sleep, you're ready, and you'll go hit DTH with very little nerves, and you won't even need a tow in. NO NEED to rush it at all, and you'll know when you're ready. (One final tip...video yourself. Make sure your technique looks solid and in control) SEND IT!

    • @jeffedmisten6576
      @jeffedmisten6576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willbros1499 blowhard? Whatever lol. That's exactly what I need to hear! I can stick the landing off that drop at the top of shroen train 10 outta 10 times. And yes, it absolutely has that edge of the world feel which makes it so intimidating. The diff between that drop and DTH is of course just the size of the gap. It's soooooo intimidating. I'll do it this year at some point. No question about it. Thanks for the vote of confidence ;)

    • @willbros1499
      @willbros1499 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffedmisten6576 ... When you feel comfortable enough and finally hit it, you will be SHOCKED at how slow you can go and never even come close to casing it. You're in the air enough longer with the added height, that your bike moves a lot further than you think.
      Did you hit the drop at the bottom of Ozone before they re-worked it, and leveled the take off? Because if you did, that was more difficult than DTH, despite it being smaller, because of that funky rise on the rock take-off, and the right hander right as you land. I know you're thinking I'm nuts, but remember I said that when you finally do DTH, because it is so smooth and well built, that you won't be able to get back up there quick enough to do it again. ;-)

    • @jeffedmisten6576
      @jeffedmisten6576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willbros1499 oh yeah I've come smashing down that rock garden and sent that bottom drop at shroen train countless times before they added the berm last year. But it's about like anything else as you progress, it got to the point it was just...easy lol. I know I already have the technique and skill set to hit DTH. Just gotta do like everybody else has done...hit it that first time and realize it's totally doable.

    • @jeffedmisten6576
      @jeffedmisten6576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willbros1499 oops my bad.... You said that drop at the bottom of ozone. No... I have not sacked up for that one yet! But that's another one I feel like I def can do just gotta get over the hump.

  • @tommybutler7629
    @tommybutler7629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10k subscribers! Congrats!

  • @LiHao8377
    @LiHao8377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so helpful, I can comfortably drop 1.5 feet now.. thanks

  • @john_enx
    @john_enx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How I see it: 1.Bring the torso down 8:57. 2. Push with the arms matching the angle of the ground (not always pushing down) also bring your butt back way behind the bb, the timing is when your forward wheel is just about to "drop" 8:58. 3. while in the air move your body weight at the middle and be tall to absorb the downward forces created while landing 9:02.

  • @Tissboy69
    @Tissboy69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello,
    What about drop technique when drop is big and the reception is flat, with a hardtail ?
    Best Regards
    Cyril

  • @pinoylowbudgetproductions7290
    @pinoylowbudgetproductions7290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a quality content Drew. Would you also make a video covering some problems/mistakes when doing drops? When I do drops, I occasionally find my foot, sometimes feet, leaving the pedals. Also, would you change your technique on a different kind of drop? Some of the drops here in our local trails are actually not as well build as this one on the video, some actually have flat landing. Looking forward to more of your vids

  • @BigWaveDaveO
    @BigWaveDaveO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for my May 23rd trip if Covid doesn't kill it. This helps a lot for a new old guy to MTB.

  • @victorrafa6540
    @victorrafa6540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome follow up. Liked the first one but this was a lot easier to follow and understand. Keep up the great content.

  • @serpent7677
    @serpent7677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damnn!! Rich U make that look so easy and smooth Man!!...There was this 5 Foot drop I was about hit it but i just froze!!..So I hope with this Lesson I'm going to Hit it with Confidence.

  • @Rad-n-Colorado
    @Rad-n-Colorado 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing new video, keep up the great work!

  • @claytonblaney1450
    @claytonblaney1450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this video - really clean technique. @9:20 “Hips over the bottom bracket” That’s the key to jumping and drops isn’t it. Maintaining hips over bottom bracket.

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Clayton! I think the hips over the bb is the key in MANY situations on the bike!

  • @IthacaDon
    @IthacaDon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rich. Hope someday be part of your ride series.

  • @Lingkm1982
    @Lingkm1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your technique is very useful especially for noob like me. Thanks !

  • @toddfathermtb6942
    @toddfathermtb6942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, you make that HUGE drop look easy.

  • @DW-dl7bk
    @DW-dl7bk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This just reaffirms my decision to register for your upcoming clinic in McKinney - thanks for all the great videos!

  • @robass22
    @robass22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the lessons Rich !!!! Thumbs up and let's go!
    Best wishes from Poland !!!

  • @Salvotation
    @Salvotation 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was sceptical at first too, but like anything else if you take something too literally it won't work. This is something to concentrate on and practice and adapt to different situations.

  • @Redpot91
    @Redpot91 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Wow...to hit those one day.
    Great to meet you and your team. Hope to see you again soon.
    Love the Troy bro!

  • @manuelcobian2355
    @manuelcobian2355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 3 days watching yours videos 👍💯

  • @fullsend3631
    @fullsend3631 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a lot of people are confused - Including me. The form demonstrated looks actually pretty similar to what I would do if I we're going really fast. It looks as if you're trying to minimize your airtime. I think this would be actually pretty hard for a beginner to pull this off. With the complex movements it seems like a recipe for disaster. What I would suggest is a preload, similar to the video, just not so low, then a extension before the takeoff. You can then push your bike into the ideal position to catch the landing. This concept is a lot easier for beginners to understand, and it's actually pretty easy to get the hang of. Also the fact that you were reluctant in the intro suggests that this isn't normal form for you, considering the fact that you have hit these drops before

  • @jeffedmisten6576
    @jeffedmisten6576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like you're about to hit drop the hammer...guns blazing! Tuned in !

  • @victordizon6604
    @victordizon6604 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wanna do this drop… So cool Rich!

  • @deanhenthorn8674
    @deanhenthorn8674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good presenter. Nice job.

  • @Kai-ze2rb
    @Kai-ze2rb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I think the most important thing is that you don´t try to kind of manual into a drop like it´s teached in other videos, as this will bring you in an unbalanced position, if you don´t know what you are doing. And that´s why you watch a video in the first place - you don´t know and wanna learn.

  • @jeremytaylor799
    @jeremytaylor799 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this drop. Im excited to try your technique instead of just hucking.

  • @roddas26
    @roddas26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid Rich. Mate just embrace the hate dude, there will always be haters whatever you do. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Aotearoa NZ

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey there!! Trust me, I know. I just wish people would "seek to understand" and TH-cam would be a happier place. However, comments like yours are what make it all worth it! Cheers from 'Merica and I hope to get over to your neck of the woods sometime to shred!

  • @michaelslater4841
    @michaelslater4841 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video I can’t drop those heights but I realise I use that technique although I wasn’t sure I was doing it correctly. Thanks I’ll keep working on it

  • @8geier
    @8geier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be curious to see a pro/con breakdown comparing your drop method to the conventional method!

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cael! Man, that would be tough for me. I have no interest in using the "conventional" method. I think a better way to go would be a discussion between someone who is a staunch believer in that conventional method and me. Then maybe we could take two newer riders and walk them through it. I've yet to find someone that's willing to do that though.

  • @bettyschmidt7016
    @bettyschmidt7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank for the help.Really like your videos.

  • @otisoutlaw
    @otisoutlaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the follow up video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge man!

  • @georgesteinhagen8147
    @georgesteinhagen8147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video....feel like I'm watching the Discovery Channel!

    • @richdrewtherideseries
      @richdrewtherideseries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      George..this is one of the coolest comments I've ever received, thank you!!

  • @mmptony
    @mmptony 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up. There will always have people flying around questioning whatever you said. Haters gonna hate.

  • @richardseller3733
    @richardseller3733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing beats a good tow job

  • @headoverbars8750
    @headoverbars8750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Techniques place to be!
    great vids brotha!

  • @richardcaro3368
    @richardcaro3368 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Very professional

  • @nevermore4633
    @nevermore4633 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this helps all the overthinkers lol. thanks !! great video!

  • @kingdaniel69
    @kingdaniel69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man. Just discovered your videos, they're brilliant. Thanks heaps from Newcastle, NSW.