Planet Eclipse Geo 4 Review

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  • The Planet Eclipse Geo 4 is Planet Eclipse' fourth Geo but sixth spool valve gun. The Geo follow the release of the very popular CS2.
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  • @ExxspressoN
    @ExxspressoN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Been playing paintball for about 12 years now, and when I was younger (12-13) the kids my age all had better guns than I did. My parents weren't that well off and I wasn't able to save enough money to buy a high end marker along with expensive higher end gear. It was my dream to have a high end paintball gun and be able to show off my paintball gun for once, now that I'm 24 I have a decent job/career and I'm able to finally make my dream become reality. My GEO 4 came in today and I couldn't be happier... I can finally say I did it.. not many things can compare to this feeling! what a blessing...

    • @michaelconte9913
      @michaelconte9913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keep working hard my man :)

    • @AJ-2-Toke
      @AJ-2-Toke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Bro shed a tear. I went through the same. I had to stop playing paintall for 8 years becouse i lived in argentina and couldnt save money. Now im back in the states and have a sick job and was able to pick one of these up!

    • @ExxspressoN
      @ExxspressoN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AJ-2-Toke Welcome back man! I wish you luck in your journey!

    • @Mo-_-Sly
      @Mo-_-Sly 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Finally retired my very used geo 2 from 2011 that saw 8 years straight of playing. Geo 4 for life baby

  • @TheTarotCardGuy
    @TheTarotCardGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    God you make me feel old.
    "I've been playing since 2001....", as im trying to calculate my age.
    I started playing back in '88/'89 😳
    Hardest thing in my life was realising it was time to pass the torch to the next generation. My Prime has come and gone, but man........the memories of rolling the field will last till i die.

    • @Timasion
      @Timasion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm with you, bro. My first marker was the PMI Trracer in 1989.

    • @TheTarotCardGuy
      @TheTarotCardGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Timasion i still have my Nelspot 007.

    • @riflemanm16a2
      @riflemanm16a2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just to make you feel even older, I was born in 88, and now some people consider ME old, lol.

    • @TheTarotCardGuy
      @TheTarotCardGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@riflemanm16a2 Hahahahaha !
      The redeeming factor is that, at 48yrs old, im doing jiujitsu against body builders in their mid -twenties and tapping them out. THATS what keeps me feeling young these days; in my mind at least.

    • @dudebro2638
      @dudebro2638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      man I'm gonna be on the field till I can't run anymore.

  • @soccerguy2433
    @soccerguy2433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    i LOVE the hard aluminum cases. if the guns is on top or under my gear its gonna be protected. The soft cases let things push against the gun through the case.

    • @angelrodriguez6479
      @angelrodriguez6479 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude Your profile picture is stupid ! put an American 🇺🇸 flag!

  • @DavidLee-bw5dm
    @DavidLee-bw5dm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love how you actually explain everything so well on the mechanical side.

  • @austinistex1462
    @austinistex1462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The way the geo 4 sounds, just makes me butter my toast 😩

  • @zerofox2967
    @zerofox2967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We are at a stand still with paintball technology. Give it to pe for making markers that are very reliable. Unless breakthrough happens in a self filling tank then we are here at the top. Only thing to do is to play. I see your points. We're in this weird area.

  • @reedwetzel1324
    @reedwetzel1324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I understand your points , I bought the cs2 pro over the geo 4 last year because I live in the midwest and know the gamma core pro wont stick in cold weather. I just remember old 3.5 and cs1s having bolt stick in the past. But overall, I can see why most would buy a geo 4 to save money. But also l own a lv1.6 because I already owned a cs2 and other spool valves and wanted a poppet to use on occasions, and being an old school player and always wanting a ego/lv I just went for it. In the end , I just like the simplicity and reliability of plant eclipse and see me using my cs2 pro and lv1.6 for years to come ,unless some amazing paintball technology comes out.

    • @darthevader3276
      @darthevader3276 ปีที่แล้ว

      The geo 4 has an updated bolt so no more bolt stick 👍👍

  • @lilx4647
    @lilx4647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like the planet eclipse hard case I just wish it had a carrying handle that would be pretty cool.

    • @duncanmurtha7301
      @duncanmurtha7301 ปีที่แล้ว

      i like em too gives so older feel and i like it, it makes it feel higher quality than the luxe cases in my opinion.

  • @brockb4452
    @brockb4452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The CS1, 1.5, and Geo 4 are literally the EXACT same gun internally. Planet eclipse just doesn’t know how to improve the Cs1 yet so they’ll change the most superficial things like the grip or milling and then call it an entirely different name then sell it for $400 more, and then all these idiots and suckers buy it.
    With that being said, the geo 4 I bought comes in the mail tomorrow.

    • @AZjesse1
      @AZjesse1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol Im buying one in a couple of weeks stocked gettting back into the sport.

  • @Ogkushdabz
    @Ogkushdabz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hey man I love planets cases !! They can take a beating and your marker will be fine

    • @dylandoporto7038
      @dylandoporto7038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea one time I was late to the field so was in a hurry and got my gear bag but forgot my keys inside so dropped my gear bag behind why car where my trunk is at got my keys from inside went back out got into my car and ran over my gear bag case was crushed gun was fine tho 😂

    • @skylaryoung3819
      @skylaryoung3819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dylandoporto7038 just reading that scared me... My heart would sink if I experienced that lol

    • @dylandoporto7038
      @dylandoporto7038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@skylaryoung3819 yea as i was backing up I heard something very different 😂my heart dropped as I realized what i just did

  • @TreyVaswal
    @TreyVaswal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know several guys who basically plan to shoot the wheels off their 3.5's. The love is real.

  • @Dmorris556
    @Dmorris556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Getting away from the wires eyes was one of the big reasons I went with the CS2 over the Geo4.

    • @fredybeans2433
      @fredybeans2433 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. Geo 4 seemed kinda old. Like a slimmed down slightly different cs1. Might as well buy a cs1 unless you have lady hands

    • @Dmorris556
      @Dmorris556 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same with the LV2. I was shocked at how, janky the electronics are in that thing.

    • @fredybeans2433
      @fredybeans2433 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dmorris556 yea definitely shouldn't have been released without making some more serious changes imo. Still an awesome marker. But the cs2 even after a few years is still ahead of everything else tech wise.

  • @LastWhisper665
    @LastWhisper665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im in the LV1 camp. Love that gun. I know spoolies are great, but there is nothing on the market right now that makes me want to replace it.

    • @albertcohee7757
      @albertcohee7757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All spoolies feel the same to me. At least with timmys and Egos there is some room to tune your shots. Snappy n fast and slow n smooth. I really hope SFRs arent the end of poppet valve innovation.

  • @crazyking94
    @crazyking94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The graphic is wrong! THE GRAPHIC IS WRONG. Swap the “geo2” and “geo1”. @paintballruinedmylife

    • @karltzouros7821
      @karltzouros7821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s true and I think it’s missing a few

    • @PaintballRuinedMyLife
      @PaintballRuinedMyLife  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I swear I even rewatched this video to look for errors...😯

    • @angelofrago3096
      @angelofrago3096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PaintballRuinedMyLife random question, is it still worth it to get a used etek 2?

    • @glenj.taylor2938
      @glenj.taylor2938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@angelofrago3096
      I would say absolutely NO!
      The ETEK 3 is a MUCH BETTER marker and the 4 is just that better-er still.
      The ETHA2 is an incredible marker as well.

  • @soccerguy2433
    @soccerguy2433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i miss the S shaped scythe triggers.

    • @Alextheskater91
      @Alextheskater91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@___meph___4547 is there actually science behind why the blade trigger is better? Or is it just personal preference?

  • @jonmd1567
    @jonmd1567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i just realized you started playing paintball the same time i did, literally the same year. only difference is i haven't played in over 20 years and looking to get back into it. i was a big sucker for the autococker/mag/angel/shocker so i went with the amp.

    • @jonmd1567
      @jonmd1567 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      not to mention i had a spyder shutter i don't know if you remember that model. it basically was a spyder tl-r // spyder se with a gauge and chromed out blue or red

    • @PaintballRuinedMyLife
      @PaintballRuinedMyLife  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Shutter was my first paintball gun, had blue with a 16in red barrel haha.

  • @porter936
    @porter936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always love your take Brad. Thanks for this review. I love my geo4, just got the infamous deuce trigger installed today.

    • @calvinross7474
      @calvinross7474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here, the trigger makes a huge difference and combining that with the geo’s smooth and buttery shot is a master piece!!!

    • @a_crispy_umbrella
      @a_crispy_umbrella 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I put an Infamous Deuce on mine too. Those stock blade triggers are the only complaint I have about eclipse guns. I have an Axe Pro, and I like the stock trigger on that gun more than an eclipse blade trigger like the stock 160r or Geo, but with the deuce on the Geo 4, good night

    • @ianrousett5115
      @ianrousett5115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you have to remove the entire top of the gun in order to change the trigger?

  • @chrisbroughton1659
    @chrisbroughton1659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My team got sponsored by Shocker so we got our own custom AMP's, and it makes me sad that I won't be able to use me geo 4 as much

  • @MarkeetMD
    @MarkeetMD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve had my cs1 for 5 years and I love it. Been interested in getting a new gun and my local shop has the geo 4 in the color scheme I want. Having a tough time deciding if I should yolo pull the trigger for essentially the same gun… but way cooler… or hold out for another model or swap entirely to 1.6. The thing about the 1.6 is it just doesn’t feel good in my hands like the cs1 and geo4. Should I just go for it? :)

    • @johnnybgoode2333
      @johnnybgoode2333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Play with any LV if you can first. Ergos are the same on all LVs. I thought it felt stretched and thin the first time I held it. But it's my go to speedball marker. Plus the ability to tune it to be smoother or snappy is a huge plus

    • @beysuo4761
      @beysuo4761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd go for a 1.6 tbh,i absolutely love em

  • @chrisf247
    @chrisf247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Having the gun a little stretched out so you have space between the trigger guard and foregrip is underrated

    • @evanshlom1
      @evanshlom1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is it good?

    • @evanshlom1
      @evanshlom1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was the one hesitation I had about the geo4. But y’all prefer it.

  • @AbudElectric
    @AbudElectric 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love all the videos! Im always watching your reviews trying to make my decisions for future markers.
    Is it me or you said FSR at some point? I think i heard it around 11:45

  • @VisualRamen
    @VisualRamen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Initially shooting a 170r and being introduced to the gamma line of markers, I personally believe Planet Eclipse has nearly reached the pinnacle of reliability when it comes to bolt systems. I then went onto the higher end and purchased a luxe x and while it shoots amazing and can go on multiple weekends without maintenance (lube the bolt maybe after 3 full weekends), I still missed the way Eclipse markers shot. When I saw the Geo 4 release, I waited for more reviews before I jumped onto that $1k price tag again but then I held both my friend's Geo 4 and CS1.5. While both shoot the same with the IV Core and SFR and all, I ended up saving that extra paint money and grabbed the CS1.5. Who knows, maybe I'll grab another IV core with the Geo 4 in the future, marker still looks sick. So thankful you came out with a review for this though.

    • @Ogkushdabz
      @Ogkushdabz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do u like the lux x ? Looking to do the same find a nice cs1 or 1.5 or I hear a lot of good things about the ice I tried it out today and was impressed

    • @VisualRamen
      @VisualRamen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ogkushdabz the luxe x served me well, I love the ergonomics on it and maintenance is minimal. Just got tired of using it overtime I guess? Im currently running a CS1.5 and while I bought it used, the gun is still a laser. I also like the grips more on the CS1.5 than the CS2. Sound signature with the IV core is pretty nice which was the main reason I switched, heard good things about the Ice but I feel more comfortable with PE more now

    • @saulliang5880
      @saulliang5880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im currently between the 170r/luxe ice/shocker amp/geo4. Could you help me decide?

    • @VisualRamen
      @VisualRamen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saulliang5880 If you’re able to get the chance to hold each marker, go for it. I got a CS1.5 which is definitely comparable to the Geo 4. I shot the shocker amp before and it can definitely run with the CS2s and Luxe’s. It’s all up to you in what you search for in terms shot quality, and ergonomics/weight.

    • @saulliang5880
      @saulliang5880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll try and get my hands on a few just to feel ergo. So at the $1,200 price point you don't think the geo 4 hangs with the cs2/lux? Which of the high end markers would you say is the best value for $$$?

  • @jlozada1904
    @jlozada1904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got the Super Staunchy deuce trigger on a GEO 4 and it has the weigh and shape that feels right. 🤙🏽
    *Try It Out*

  • @krewkid82
    @krewkid82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Im really liking that lv 1.6!! I have a Lagoon 09 ego...i would love to get a custom ano done on a lvl 1.6 to match my older gun:)

  • @maliciouspaintball1224
    @maliciouspaintball1224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saw the front grip snap off of the geo 4 this past weekend, not from a fall or anything. Just from playing

  • @01surge24
    @01surge24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always liked the blade triggers….never an issue or planet eclipse gats….I’ve owned a ton of guns since 1999 when I started…play on sir.

  • @Mindless-Productions
    @Mindless-Productions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Problem is, ANSGear has Cs2s on sale for 1295. It's technically $50 more. Worth? id say it is currently in this situation but not at original msrp. or vs the cs2 pro.

  • @williampaddock4863
    @williampaddock4863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am Sticking to my gtek shoots like new why get another gun so what it has and external air line

    • @michaelgrenier8362
      @michaelgrenier8362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. Plus with the GMEK frame it's easy for me to swap to mech if I want. I see no reason to upgrade.

    • @williampaddock4863
      @williampaddock4863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelgrenier8362 Yes I both frames as well and the opps asa is just as good as the pops if not better i think its better

    • @BR-zt9no
      @BR-zt9no 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100%. The Gtek is a great platform

  • @jamesboxold9671
    @jamesboxold9671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Have you seen the price hikes for all planet eclipse markers, pretty crazy

    • @riflemanm16a2
      @riflemanm16a2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, what's up with that? I remember Etha 2s' being around $400 when I was looking at them a couple years ago, and even some videos from just a couple months ago say $425, but new ones are $470 everywhere.

    • @jamesboxold9671
      @jamesboxold9671 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@riflemanm16a2 it's crazy

  • @jptothetree
    @jptothetree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I always thought the CS2 had a clunky shot compared to a 3.5--would definitely be keen to try a Geo 4!

    • @jerrikpeddie2944
      @jerrikpeddie2944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its cuz the cs2 has a gamma core just like the etha 2 and the 3.5 has the lv core with imo is better fun fact the cs1.5 has a lv core also

    • @RiotOnly21
      @RiotOnly21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know this is over a year later of a reply, and I don’t know if you have shot one by now, but I got mine a little while ago, and all I can say is, is I’m only excited to just shoot this thing. It doesn’t get old. Almost a year later and I still am giddy to put my first hopper of the day thru it. Love it in its entirely.

  • @gotlumpz4upaintball447
    @gotlumpz4upaintball447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing content as always Brad 👍🏾

  • @benjaminkitchen7562
    @benjaminkitchen7562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with you on the trigger. I also am really not a fan of the trigger feel of the gtek 170r

  • @MikeJones.
    @MikeJones. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m the exact same way I love all the old guns my old 07 ego shocker Timmy I still have hahaha 🤣 I love all of them and I’ll never sell them the milling on the guns are just at par seems like today timmys mill on guns is just incredible ❤️☝🏼🤘🏼🙏🏼💪🏼🔥

  • @zedthemexicanmadman9542
    @zedthemexicanmadman9542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best way to understand is the cs2 will cycle with penut butter with lube(madman paintball if you want to watch this done) and the iv core probably not a good idea. The cs2 is lower pressure(at this low operating psi ite kind of irrelivent) and can run a much frame. So if your pocjeta are deep get a few. If not, I dont know why you would lube with peanut butter so im going to guess you wont. Just get a geo4 and spend your $400 on a emek

  • @a_crispy_umbrella
    @a_crispy_umbrella 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Upgraded from a 160r to a Geo IV three weeks ago and it's an absolutely amazing feeling gun. Shoots spectacularly

    • @cody4243
      @cody4243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn I still rock my 160r. Thing shoots ropes. Thinking of the geo4 now

    • @a_crispy_umbrella
      @a_crispy_umbrella 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cody4243 don't get me wrong, I love my 160r, and I still keep it in my gear bag as a very solid backup, but the Geo is on another level, especially after adding an Infamous Deuce R1. I'm not a fan of Eclipse blade triggers

    • @vincentperez5018
      @vincentperez5018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@a_crispy_umbrella should I use custom on the geo or a preset

    • @apstephens97
      @apstephens97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's literally the same bolt lmao

  • @gettinthrewlife76
    @gettinthrewlife76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wuz up!!! For me I'm still running with my 68Automag since 1997 and a A.N.S GEN-3 Autococker. I also just acquired a Tippmann TMC. As rite now I'm building a 68Automag sidearm w/10 round mag clip. Love the vids, keep up the great content and ✌out from Modesto👈😎👉

    • @glenj.taylor2938
      @glenj.taylor2938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      DUDE!!!
      Anything more info you can share about your Magfed-Mag?

    • @gettinthrewlife76
      @gettinthrewlife76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey there I'll be posting a video of my makeshift 68Automag sidearm soon. I'm still finishing it and when it's done I'll post it. Thanks for asking and everyone out who's see's it likes it. ✌out from Cali👈😎👉

  • @kabutoyakushi6618
    @kabutoyakushi6618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What gun is better than the CS2 pro? The LuX? The F1 Force? Or do they outclass everything?

    • @corbindallas1954
      @corbindallas1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@___meph___4547 this guy gets it. ☝☝

  • @damnrights_gaming5332
    @damnrights_gaming5332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Being a paintball player what do you think about what's happening in Canada with Bill C-21 do you think there's anything you can do with your platform to help us?

    • @MrBottlecapBill
      @MrBottlecapBill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nobody can save Canadians from themselves. We voted in a guy who never really had a job. The results were predictable.

  • @tkoze
    @tkoze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the emek and CS2 and I like the emek better. It could be an issue of bore sizing or something but I was disappointed by the lack of accuracy with the CS2 after shelling out that much guap

    • @jordancalanchini3496
      @jordancalanchini3496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your accuracy is going be based on the quality of paint you use

    • @tkoze
      @tkoze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jordancalanchini3496 thanks for the info. What paint do you like? I tried valken graffiti and that wasn't too accurate for me, but the GI sportz field paint shot way better

    • @jordancalanchini3496
      @jordancalanchini3496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tkoze paint is going to vary from batch to batch, graffiti is awesome! But of course some times the batch will be a little bit off for whatever reason. I’ve had hk level 5 that’s the best paint I’ve ever shot and hk level 5 that’s terrible. My favorite paint is gi sports 5 star.

  • @Yamaha23MT10YamahaR1
    @Yamaha23MT10YamahaR1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really want a geo 4. All my paintball buddys have cs2. I like how the geo 4 looks

  • @fredybeans2433
    @fredybeans2433 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went with a cs2 over a geo 4. Price wasnt in the picture to worry about

    • @cullenmanningham1
      @cullenmanningham1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too just picked up a cs2 pro.

    • @fredybeans2433
      @fredybeans2433 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cullenmanningham1 rip to us after they announced the cs3 today :(

  • @maverickdovakin9786
    @maverickdovakin9786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I may be late but why in the world did the etha2 go up to 470. I already couldn't afford the 430, and then they go and up the price again

  • @gtifury310
    @gtifury310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree on the trigger. The 170R trigger doesn't feel good compared to the AMP. But when I'm actually playing it feels fine and I can shoot really fast on semi.

    • @gtifury310
      @gtifury310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      170R Ergos are awesome though

  • @ryanbengston
    @ryanbengston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thoughts on the trigger are so true. Feels very "cheap" to me.

  • @theofficialcj8656
    @theofficialcj8656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    mini gs or 170r

  • @built4u2
    @built4u2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, Brad. All the upgrades and options with the GEO4 seem kinda pointless to me, so I went all in on the CS2 Pro HK Alien edition. It's awesome! Has all the reliability you would expect for the price and none of the stuff you don't need. Just play with it right out of the box. The more little tuning and adjustment features tend to cause more problems and cost you in the end. Although I believe it won't happen most of the time with PE products. One thing, you were showing the GEO the whole time you were talking about the CS2. I really don't see the GEO4 as better than the CS2, I actually watched your videos about the CS2 and how much you loved it and didn't have anything negative to say about it. It's funny, after watching up until the end of this video, based on what you were saying, I really thought you were gonna say it's not better than the CS2, but then you went with the price difference. I understand that holds a lot of people back from playing and buying high end guns, but I remember you saying the feel of the CS2 is in its own class because the tolerances are so great (the overall feel category). I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but I just feel like you kind of dogged the CS2 because you're not getting what you pay for with the price, but before you basically said you're getting what you pay for so I just thought that was kinda unfair to say that at the end.

    • @Ducati_Fratelli
      @Ducati_Fratelli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just sold my CS2 Pro and picked up a Geo 4. I feel like they could price the geo above the CS2 and it would sell. The Geo 4 honestly feels like a higher end product especially in the shot feel. I would definitely give it a go if you get the chance, I regret purchasing the CS2 initially after owning the Geo 4 for even just a few weeks. Price was no factor for me as I was solely looking for the better product and after owning both I have to vouch for the Geo.

    • @MangoHero247
      @MangoHero247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had a amp, option at a luxe tm40 but kept my dye m3+, now will be trading for a geo 4. I love the shot of the geo 4. Best ergonomics around imo. Very curious to try a tm40 with the rubber ace grips and deuce trigger, it’s supposed to be “ Phenomenal” according to folks.

  • @shaggyproductions263
    @shaggyproductions263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a cs1 and I love it

  • @Agerkillzz
    @Agerkillzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i want a deuce trigger but they are sold out just about everywhere for the eclipse guns

  • @prayersofangel2182
    @prayersofangel2182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredibly confusing is right, I am in the market for a top performing marker and have no idea what to do. The LV2 just came out but the grip frame feels too big in my hand compared to the 1.6 and geo4. Like you mention, the Geo4 is probably the one I will go with. But why does it have to be so confusing, does Planet Eclipse have big things coming soon?

    • @PaintballRuinedMyLife
      @PaintballRuinedMyLife  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m with ya they may have to many options. They are both very very good, i would pick the one that feels the best. I like bigger feeling guns and also think the LV2 is a bit chunky.

  • @ricky.g7528
    @ricky.g7528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome back to the ivcore

  • @logankraemer9622
    @logankraemer9622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like the Etha 2 case?

  • @benjaminkitchen7562
    @benjaminkitchen7562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this your main gat now?

  • @crossfirerambo
    @crossfirerambo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly IMO the Geo 3 was the most fun spool that PE sent out. All the dimensions were just where they needed to be especially that frame to reg ratio. The grip wasn't massive and spongey. When the CS1 came out someone came in with it and honestly wasn't impressed.

    • @axledog7297
      @axledog7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you weren't impressed by the CS1, I question the level of detail you go to when you analyze and ultimately judge a marker.

    • @crossfirerambo
      @crossfirerambo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@axledog7297 a lot actually. Just gotta weed out all the junk "upgrades" that they sell you every year.

    • @axledog7297
      @axledog7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crossfirerambo There are some very robust and worthwhile improvements made to the CS1 vs. the Geo 3. Grip design and material, grip interaction with the surfaces around it, much more reliable SMC solenoid. Those are the big ones for me. And unlike many, I LOVE the CS grips. Ergos are perfect.

    • @crossfirerambo
      @crossfirerambo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@axledog7297 and that's fine. If you feel like that's worth the money then go ahead. But generally speaking guns aren't worth the money companies are asking for relatively small improvements.

    • @axledog7297
      @axledog7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crossfirerambo I don't really look at markers from a "value" perspective. I tend to stick to objectively judging the design/engineering of them since that's a more quantifiable measurement of a marker's worth to me. The CS1 was a huge leap, and they're still using the same design architecture today 6 years later.

  • @thepdails
    @thepdails 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Feels like a different trigger than the CS2 to me. Maybe it's just the shoe angle adjustment on the CS2 that makes a difference for me. I much prefer the CS2 trigger.

    • @axledog7297
      @axledog7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Geo 4 uses the same trigger components as the CS1 and CS1 variants. The CS2 uses a completely different set of components.

  • @kickassneilum
    @kickassneilum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So let me get this straight.... you complain about the CS2 front grip being narrow twards the bottom but you were perfectly happy with a 3.5/LV front grip? Especially with the a-t pipes?! Interesting... Ill take a CS2 front grip over any LV/Geo fore grip ever

  • @mothjoke
    @mothjoke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    70 degrees all the time?
    Where do you live bro that’s my kind of weather!?

  • @noahglover9767
    @noahglover9767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Geo 4

  • @povnyc4494
    @povnyc4494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my geo4

  • @shannonyoung6375
    @shannonyoung6375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Purchased a brand new Geo 4 last week. I loved my geo 1,2,3,3.1 and 3.5 but was not a fan of the cs1 or cs2. The geo 4 is just a cs1 with the cs2 rear grip. The sound signature isn't a geo, the shot quality is not as good as the 3.5 and it is just uncomfortable in my hands. Traded it for a LV1.6 yesterday. The LV series is just the best markers on the market. Been playing since 1992 and have owned everything over the years.

    • @AZjesse1
      @AZjesse1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The geo 4 is definitely better you messed up mate especially with the lv2 just releasing even that gun is better than the lv 1.6 and I’m not even a pop it valve gun fan.

  • @albertosanchez-breton9204
    @albertosanchez-breton9204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the geo 4 sold it the same day was not impressed for the price

  • @gregs40
    @gregs40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nailed the trigger description hahaha

  • @Kannerjb711
    @Kannerjb711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Please make a video about Canada bill c21 that is seeking to make airsoft guns and magfed paintball guns illegal. The wording is so ambiguous that some regular paintball guns could fall into their prohibited listing. I know you’re not in Canada but we are all part of a small community and if Canada takes a hit like that it will close many paintball fields and thousands of jobs will be lost. Don’t you want to go to flag raiders paintball?

  • @carltonlewis03
    @carltonlewis03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have the wrong picture for the Geo and Geo 2 swapped 😆

  • @Mntoyaz
    @Mntoyaz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the Geo IV solenoid user serviceable like the LV1.6?

  • @palmerwhithed3686
    @palmerwhithed3686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sickk! Thanks for great content as always. I just bought dye DSR, great marker :-)

  • @847lifestyle
    @847lifestyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel obligated to get one. I have 1-3 and skipped on the middle variants... geo 4 I think it is lol

    • @saulliang5880
      @saulliang5880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any thoughts? Did you regret the purchase it?

    • @847lifestyle
      @847lifestyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saulliang5880 I did purchase it but Idk if regret is the word, I wish I had waited a bit and got a better deal on it, it's worth noting that as of lately I'm always pull out 170r. something to be said about the 170r for me. IDK i've played ball for a long time and I used to love my geo 2 but then I got my geo 3 and then I didn't get anything until december of 2020 when I bought the 170r but then I shot the shocker amp and I ended up buying that and using that as my main but then that went down on me one day and I pulled out he 170r and I have not looked back since. I guess I really only bought the geo 4 because I had geos 1-3 lol I kno that is terrible but its the truth

    • @saulliang5880
      @saulliang5880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@847lifestyle So I went in person to hold the ergo of a few high end markers and I ended up falling for the etha 2 (feels like a real gun)/shocker amp (solid frame & sexy milling)/lv1.6 (perfect)/geo 4 (solid/great shape, no weak spots). I did not like the grips on the 170r, it felt flimsy, weak, and cheap.

    • @847lifestyle
      @847lifestyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saulliang5880 right on and I will have to try that etha 2 sometime soon.

  • @ryanverklin3111
    @ryanverklin3111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for this vid

  • @Deliriation
    @Deliriation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Didn't think gun come out like a year ago lol

    • @Doublequarterpoundcake
      @Doublequarterpoundcake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brad is a master of suspense, so is a global pandemic.

    • @killmongerpb2533
      @killmongerpb2533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So?

    • @thesteinmanclan
      @thesteinmanclan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not too many people have been able to get them though since the pandemic has caused supply chain issues

    • @axledog7297
      @axledog7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thesteinmanclan False. There are a metric ton of Geo 4s out there.
      And at the end of the day, the Geo 4 and CS1/CSR/CS1.5 are all functionally identical, so this doesn't exactly introduce anything "new."

    • @thesteinmanclan
      @thesteinmanclan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@axledog7297 ok

  • @mikeythekeed7955
    @mikeythekeed7955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You swapped the geo1 and 2 in the into.

  • @dudebro2638
    @dudebro2638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New best or new most expensive?

  • @eduardolomeli2643
    @eduardolomeli2643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you recommend the geo 4 over a cs2

    • @cjperaino6968
      @cjperaino6968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you even watch the video?

    • @eduardolomeli2643
      @eduardolomeli2643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cjperaino6968 I don’t understand why you even commented back if I wasn’t even asking you.

  • @danielnelan8698
    @danielnelan8698 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The gsl came out before the 3.5 Brad 😘

  • @PhuGNguyen
    @PhuGNguyen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow , always 70 degrees? Are you in SoCal?

    • @Alextheskater91
      @Alextheskater91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I live in SoCal and it’s not always 70 degrees… that’s in the fall and spring. Summer here reaches 84-102 during the summer lately…

  • @PaintMagnet68
    @PaintMagnet68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Errrrr on your graphic the Geo1 and geo2 pics are the wrong way round .... and what about the 2.1

  • @Roughneck484
    @Roughneck484 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pictures of geo 1 and 2 are switched...

  • @noahmoser1250
    @noahmoser1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry I have a soccer game I’ll be back tho

  • @distinguishedgentleman01
    @distinguishedgentleman01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there everyone
    I have a question to ask, I have a budget of about 900$ to get back in the game.
    I am right now being offered a geo 4 with a r2 mag and a 68/4500 ninja v2 pro reg air tank for 850$!
    Is it worth it?
    Should I jump on that deal?
    Help pleas!

  • @Dave-wy5nq
    @Dave-wy5nq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Geo 4 is 100% the exact same gun as a CS1 internally; there isn't a single difference. Literally the same. Same board, same core, same reg. It's the same. It's a CS1 with an updated body and ergos.
    Also, current pricing has the Geo 4 $50 less than a CS2, not $400.

    • @built4u2
      @built4u2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was going to say the same thing, even look at that trigger guard, exact same. I went all in on the CS2 pro HK alien edition and am so happy! Can't wait to play tomorrow!

    • @nanoverse
      @nanoverse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is one difference.

    • @built4u2
      @built4u2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nanoverse its not a cs2

    • @nanoverse
      @nanoverse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The bolt is the better soft touch.

  • @austang8556
    @austang8556 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Geo 4 looks way better than the CS2/CS3 I wish I had one!

  • @williamduckworth305
    @williamduckworth305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a geo aboyt 8 months ago...i must admit...i do not hate it lol...

  • @joepedregosa4481
    @joepedregosa4481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Brad!!! Off topic- are you still using the hero5 session for video? What settings do you use? I just bought one.....

  • @Mrbhirsch18
    @Mrbhirsch18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since I’ve grabbed my geo 4, my cs2 has been relegated to mech lol.

    • @louiemvp818
      @louiemvp818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My cs2 is a display now lol

  • @Nachtelfafronese
    @Nachtelfafronese ปีที่แล้ว

    perfekt Video, thx

  • @koshile3794
    @koshile3794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid aluminum vs cast aluminum probably.

  • @FloridaBikeVlogger
    @FloridaBikeVlogger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn those g6rs had the worst FSD

  • @Hondo34
    @Hondo34 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gamma core or IV core?

    • @PaintballRuinedMyLife
      @PaintballRuinedMyLife  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would rather have the Geo4, but also think the GammaCore more.

    • @Hondo34
      @Hondo34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PaintballRuinedMyLife soft tip bolt or hard tip bolt for either the gamma or iv core? Cant seem to find a true answer. Which one do you use?

  • @loozhy206
    @loozhy206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the nvidia of paintball

  • @GeoR5shooter
    @GeoR5shooter ปีที่แล้ว

    I run a Geo 4 and Dye DlS and love them both.

  • @just_joshinnn
    @just_joshinnn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Give it time, they’ll replace your tigger with a touchpad 😂

  • @jackallred8228
    @jackallred8228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know how you could dislike eclipse cases best cases out there. Sure they don’t flex but they protect your guns bad that’s all that matters

  • @niclasbehrens1292
    @niclasbehrens1292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hallo brauche eine Übersetzung für die Bedienungsanleitung für ne geo 3.1 kann jemand helfen

  • @ojpimpson3343
    @ojpimpson3343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just get a M2 Mosair or M3 Mosair...got the m2 and I'll never go back.

  • @matthazel8602
    @matthazel8602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Id rather have an aluminum case.

  • @skype3gaming884
    @skype3gaming884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do a review on defy vertex

  • @justinbryant6676
    @justinbryant6676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont think anyone's caught what's going on at PE yet... I think people are going to get their feelings hurt...

  • @zoomzoomgt
    @zoomzoomgt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any1 notice geo1 is the 2 is and 2 is the 1 🤣

  • @typhusboy
    @typhusboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep selling those pew pews

  • @PropDusting
    @PropDusting 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the SFR like the Dwell adjustment on spool valve guns?

    • @axledog7297
      @axledog7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No. Dwell time = the amount of time the solenoid is charged, which ultimately determines how long the bolt is in the forward position during the cycle. The SFR is exactly what it says - it restricts the exhaust flow rate from the solenoid. In the CS1/Geo 4 arrangement, the solenoid acts as an air sear and has to dump a small volume of air to allow the shot chamber to push the bolt forward. The rate at which that volume of air holding the bolt back is vented controls how quickly the bolt accelerates.

    • @PropDusting
      @PropDusting 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@axledog7297 he says it slows the bolts foward speed. I use to do that on dye markers using the lpr. Is that similar as the sfr?

    • @ashravenpb
      @ashravenpb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you're familiar with how a qev works on a cocker or an ion, the SFR is pretty much the exact same thing but with an adjustable flow rate

    • @PropDusting
      @PropDusting 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashravenpb yeah I am used to the front blocks on cockers. Seems like a ego and a spool had a baby, haha!

    • @axledog7297
      @axledog7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PropDusting Not really.
      Pressure x surface area = force. Adjusting the regulator *within it's working range* has very little effect on the bolt's acceleration profile. The force in which the bolt is driven forward is what you're adjusting so, realistically, adjusting the LPR is pretty pointless in most cases, which continues to be highly misunderstood.
      The SFR provides a far more effective method of control via flow restriction. The LV is a good example - set the LPR to 75-85 psi for a strong, reliable cycle and use the SFRs as the tuning apparatus. If you watch Brad's recent LV1.6 video, he incorrectly mentions the LPR as the reason the LV platform is so "tuneable", which couldn't be further from the truth. Contrary to popular belief, that's not the point of an LPR, but it is the point of the SFRs.

  • @D0nKilluminati
    @D0nKilluminati 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol yea that geo trigger does sound nasty🤣

  • @ria_badtemper7014
    @ria_badtemper7014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my bebula cs1 I awesome anyone who complains about them have childish hands lol