I've used both but I'm enjoying the overall camera system on the S23Ultra. The zoom is what really wins me over. Watching my kids play soccer, track, and basketball..the zoom comes in clutch! 4k at 10x optical zoom is unmatched! Also I love all the other options, really liking the 50mp mode, seems to be the best of both worlds.
@@andrewhammett4805 Depends, as with all full auto modes luck is involved. And often if you raise shadows in that fake raw it looks like a jpg. It denoises well, but I prefer a little noise and some more details from the real raw files.
Not into apple and their monopoly. Just upgraded from a note 20 ultra 5g to the s23 ultra and I am super pleased with it. Would love to see a review from you comparing the cameras on Pixel 7 pro and S23 Ultra
The problem with the alternatives is that they run Android, which to me is horrible to use and a big deal killer. How do I know? I've had 5 Android devices over the years for various reasons and always feel more at home in iOS. You may feel differently which is totally OK - we are lucky to have the choice.
@@MicroFourThirdsCornerI switched from Apple to Android. If you haven't tried android on the S20 and above you probably aren't experiencing the best OS available. Most new features Apple introduces were originated on android. I couldn't imagine going back.
Here is the problem. The latest camera update Ruined the 200MP mode. Before there was no sharpening. Everyone is complaining about it. Techyonion showed the before and after. Samsung need to put back the old camera processing for 200MP. It would be par with the Sony.
Bro i'm coming from that video as well. Samsung totally ruined the 200mp camera with the last camera update. Hopefully there's a way to roll back to the previous version
You guys did the review at the wrong time. If you see how good the 200MP was before the last update, search techyonion in youtube. Last update reduced the quality of the 200MP and added sharpening. Before the update there was no sharpening.
@@donnawetter1513 this is a known issue, search online. I have the s23 ultra huge difference in quality after the last update, the quality is very poor compared to last software before update.
With 4x4 pixel binning, it's not clear how much value you'd get out of the Samsung 200-megapixel raw file. In my tests I saw no real resolution improvement over 50MP shots. Samsung uses AI to interpolate the RGB color values for each pixel in those 16-pixel patches, so there's a lot of processing even before the demosaicing and oversharpening and oversaturation. But yes, I still wish I could pixel peep all the way at the 200MP raw files. I also agree about the overprocessed Samsung raw. One big difference for me: Apple lets you take raw photos with all its cameras, not just the main, wide-angle camera. The telephoto cameras on the S23U would be better if you weren't locked to HEIC/JPEG formats.
Have not watched you guys in 7 years since I closed my studio. Other than looking much older Tony :) it’s great to see your channel has grown to the size it has and you’re still going strong.
This is why I love your videos also about smartphones: The photographer perspective and not the usual Tech TH-camr perspective. I'm a photography and tech geek and use the 14 pro, but sold my S22 Ultra and I also like the Pixel 7 Pro I've used for 6 months. I like these phones for different reasons. In the end I have the most fun with my Xperia 5 IV as daily driver and to take photos (with a real shutter button *love it*) and making videos on it. The processing is so much more natural and I have all the controls in my hand and even in the "BASIC" mode, you can still point & shoot if needed in a hurry and the post-processing is doing it with less magic compared to the Samsung/Apple/Google devices, but they catching up with every generation but still keeping it more natural look. On the Pixel, iPhone and the S22/23 ultra it is boring over time. Just press the shutter button on those devices and the post-processing is doing the magic...and many times with overprocessing and too social media oriented. Not bad in certain situations, but like I said: BORING :) Keep your great work and your amazing chemistry :)
Apple has Air Drop which is proprietary, BUT Samsung has the new Quick Share which simply creates a link that ANYONE can use to download any size files on any device with a simple click. Suck it Apple!
The expert raw app always processes the images. If you want real raw you have to use the baked in pro mode in the normal camera app on the S23 Ultra. Also maybe you have to change the camera settings to activate raw files im pro mode. ( at least that is the case on other Samsung Phones ) Did you use the expert raw app for the raw images, or did you use the camera app ?
it does look like they are using the expert raw app, but even in pro mode you are still locked to the 50mp and the same setting suits. I actually uninstalled the expert raw app because i couldn't actually find anything that it could do that i couldn't do on the standard pro mode.
@@NoESanity okay, because i experienced way more heavy processing when i used the expert raw app instead of the pro mode.. in pro mode with the settings switched to raw my fold 3 does not show any processing
I use the Google pixel 6a. Basic but does the job. For photography it is not the picture quality but the editing which makes it a good camera phone and for the price it is a fantastic phone. I normally shoot on Fuji, Sony and Ricoh
I do wish it was built into the phone like with the iPhones. Some of the aftermarket ones for Samsung S22/S23 Ultra interfere with the S Pen. I've got a Pitaka MagEZ case for my S22 Ultra which is the only one I could find specifically advertised to not interfere with the S Pen. But I would love to have a grip, kickstand and lanyard attachment built into my case, however having magnetic mounting was the most important case feature for me so I went with the Pitaka. If the magnetic mounting was built into the phone, I could put whatever outer case I wanted on the phone and still have the magnetic attachment. I suppose you can just put a metal plate between the phone and your case of choice, and that would still mount to magnetic accessories but have the benefit of not interfering with the S Pen. However it's not going to work as well as a dedicated MagSafe or MagSafe-compatabile array in the phone as that gives a stronger attraction and aligns everything properly. The MagSafe array in my Pitaka case is just about strong enough on its own to hold the phone to a fridge!
I have the Samsung S23 Ultra, and well the camera I find is awesome...great to see the improvements where it counts...this phone is noticeably faster than even the S22 Ultra. This being said I also have a fujifilmX-T2; hopefully soon to upgrade, so when I want to take some more controllable shots that is what I use. I do get a good amount of use from the telephoto lens on this phone and it really should be an option on flagship phones. There are times when the full 200 MP option is nice, Id say try taking a picture in a studio setup with all equipment and review to see if there is really a difference, someone below mentioned that this sharpening is only baked into the expert raw app. Maybe follow his suggestion of using the basic camera raw setting. Last thing to consider is, as this is a new sensor on a new phone there will be tweaking and fixes in upcoming updates. Iphone had the same issues when they firstly introduced the 48MP sensor. All in all I have this phone, my wife has the Iphone 14 pro and we get similar results when taking pics anytime, there are colour differences of course but they are down to personal preferences. Airdrop is nice to have, but honestly there are other ways to send people a pic or video wirelessly on any platform. I like to just connect my phone to my computer; Mac or PC via cable and have just full access to the phone memory.
The last sentence hit the nail on the head. Nothing beats a physical cable when having to transfer over dozens of GB of files to a computer for editing. Samsung's link sharing (built in to the share menu) also works with no issues. It's limited by wifi speed unlike Wifi Direct, but that's usually not an issue at home.
The video stabilization is equally amazing in both cameras in my opinion, and the macro of the Samsung was sharper and more appealing to my eye, including the shadow in that image, in contrast to your assessment. (A few days ago, I ordered the S23 Ultra. I currently own the S21 Ultra. I am, in particular, looking forward to the 10x optical zoom.)
Guys, these are smarphones. No one is going to share with friends or social media 100x crops of 200mp photos. Both phones are the best out there, with the s23 being more versatile, better potrait mode, and better selfie cam.
I'm a teacher. You can't imagine the joy of the pupils zooming in on their silly faces with the S23U 200mp class photo. It's a whole different level and the kids loved it.
This was a fun video to watch! I was reminded of the Autel Nano+ 48 MP option that doesn't really look that great. Better to use the standard resolution. Digital trickery isn't always the best but it is getting better. With AI becoming so prevalent, the next model should be really interesting. Imagine having Topaz built in to sharpen blurry photos or just tack sharpen sharp photos.
I'd like to see the iPhone's 48mp camera paired up with telephoto lenses. Are there any good systems out there? Fore instance I know that moment might be an option, but are they any good? Maybe there is a better option. I don't know. I'd like to see a video about this.
I live in Argentina, were you can buy an s23 ultra for half the money than an iphone 14 max. And the same goes for tablets, watches or laptops. You have to be crazy or rich to be in the apple ecosystem here. I'm really happy with my s23 ultra for casual photography, but I would never leave my Sony A73 behind if things get serious. Great video, btw, as always!
I have a S22 Ultra and I would love the Apple ecosystem and how easy it is to interact with other users but I don't want to be completely locked into it either. The Airtag has a much bigger user base in case it gets lost compared to the Galaxy Smart Tag for instance, but I do like that you can press the button on the Smart Tag to ring your phone. If I lived in a big city in the US, I feel like owning an iPhone would make your life a lot easier considering how many people use them around here.
what on earth has the Apple "ecosystem" got to do with interacting with other users ? t is simple to interact using an Android phone. Never use apps that lock you to a device. I would never downgrade again to an iphone.
@@martinspedding4210what is with ppl claiming iPhones lock them in or they feel restricted using an iPhone what is it that u want to do on your phone doesn’t Samsung want to lock ppl in like apple
@@CashCollecta Apple is all about Apple vendor lock in. For example Facetime or messages that only work on Apple devices. Also devices such as Apple watch which only sync to Apple devices. Android is used across devices from multiple manufacturers and so if it runs on one device running Android it will on all other devices running that version of Android. I have owned devices from Xiaomi, Huawei, Google and Samsung. It is seemless moving between them... That is huge difference
At about 5 mins in when you were talking about going into the settings to even get the option to enable raw shooting on the iphone is true. But there is an additional option (for pretty much any camera setting in fact) to not reset those options everytime you close the app. Just wanted to clarify that for those wondering
I'm REALLY loving my Pixel 7 Pro, but I really wish it had an option to use manual controls. For the most part the AI does a good job, but there are times where I wish I could manually dial in my focus.
Stabilization cannot be tested by two different people running because of all personal specs of running style, joints, etc; especially a male and a female have different stabilization in hip zone - female's mass center will move more due to wider hips
Love this, so informative and I probably laughed more than I should have. I've always been an android user, currently still using my S21 ultra. Hoping for the S23 soon! I used to love LGs phones for photos, but they took a step back.
@@backroadsphoto_by_fish LG was very innovative. They were the first ones to have wide-angle cameras. LG went downhill because of TH-cam reviewers crapping on them. The same TH-camrs that were paid by Samsung and Apple to push their phones! And everybody fell for it
Really appreciate the candid opinions. It's so hard nowadays to find reliable in-depth info on many topics. I'm looking forward to the Pixel 8 Pro. If they can give it at least a 10x optical zoom, better video quality and maybe have sensors that don't require as much post-processing, then that system will be all I need as an amateur photographer.
They are giving you that, and it improves with every generation. Its just that no one algorithm is going to please everyone. That's what you're seeing here. These smartphone cameras are for those that don't want to do-it-yourself. They're designed with the common shooter in mind that just wants good results straight out of the camera. All these types want to do is to compose and press play. Although there's nothing preventing them from having a true RAW mode without their generic recipe for the more seasoned crowd. Some apps such as FILMic Pro, do a better job with this.
First of, you can get magsafe for the S23 Ultra. There's several covers for the phone with built in magsafe. So just get one of those and you got magsafe too. As far as the baked in noise cancellation and sharpening, I totally agree. I don't want that. Or at least I want to be able to shoot without it when ever I need that. So I totally agree with you there. Got the S23 Ultra. And yes, the 200MP isn't close to actual 200MP of details. To be honest the 50MP isn't close to 50MP either. But most of that is due to the dang noise cancellation and sharpening processing. But for digital use, it's actually pretty good. But you don't want to be pixel peeping, or printing very large prints. Still it beats the iPhone though.
I agree about being locked into Apple's system and not getting to choose your camera! Are there any third party camera apps in the app store that maybe work better than the default one? Maybe something that gives you raw, manual control, less processing, etc.? I'm not an iphone user so I'd be interested to know.
There are a lot of options, Lightroom does have a manual control camera built-in but I find it a bit clunky. ProCamera as previously mentioned is good, I use Camera M as I find it very good with touch controls, and you also have Halide Mark II. The last of which I have never personally used but I hear a lot of good things about it.
I have the S21 ultra. I use it everyday as notebook aid more than as a camera. I like it for photographing restaurant food that I am served. Much more convenient that a camera. For serious photography it is too hard to use quickly in challenging or bright outdoor situations. Still it has a definite place in my life to grab a quick record of things, receipts and documents for record keeping. You might include the Pixel Pro in these comparisons. Those that have them do seem rave about their cameras. My S21 is good enough for my usage. I switch to the R5 and L glass when it is serious and demanding photography. I use my G5XII when I seek something better than phone in the middle group usage between phone and R5.
I love my S23 Ultra, best overall phone and camera, and fits in my ecosystem with my galaxy watch 5, galaxy buds pro, and galaxy tab s7 plus. And I can easily quick share any files back and forth to my tab or pc. The S23 Ultra has so many features I wouldn't get on apple phone
Ive been ok the Samsung ultra Bandcamp ever since jumping ship from my Lumia 950 as windows phone apps started shutting down. The S23 Ultra has delivered my best ever results from a phone camera. Granted, I use the zoom lenses way more than the 200mp mode.
Great comparison. I have both the iPhone 14 Pro and S23 Ultra. I primarily use the Ultra because it really does feel like the best phone camera ever, but yes, it oversharpens, but they may fix that in a future update.
Isn't there a setting in Camera Assistant which can change the amount of sharpening? Also, scene optimizer goes nuts with oversharpening! That's why I tend to turn it off now.
Currently using S21 Plus, and I'm quite satisfied with the camera system. I would like to see Xiaomi 13 Ultra vs Samsung or Apple comparison, please. The latest Xiaomi flagship looks so cool.
I always enjoy your reviews and listen carefully to your criticisms on products. That said, my phone’s camera is my second option for photo taking. If it’s not perfectly in focus, all details spot on, I don’t care. I’ll edit and get them to where I need them. Until Apple or other carriers start making honest to God fantastic cameras, we’ll be reviewing and comparing until the end of time.
Mag safe cases are available for Samsung. Quick share will let you send a link to Apple user to download full images/ video. Quick/nearby share is Samsung/ androids version of air drop respectively.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure a lot of people have gotten used to the "misconception" that only Apple does certain things. That hasn't been the case for at least 3 years. Android, well at least Samsung, has provided equivalent iPhone functionality in many ways. They didn't acknowledge phone link that allows you to use your phone on Windows to message, make calls, run any app, or move files. It's the equivalent of air drop and more for Android/Windows users. It's getting old that reviewers don't do their due diligence to actually see what Android has to offer and goes off of assumptions from 5+ years ago than no longer apply.
I have a iPhone 13 pro and its fine for quick captures if I don't happen to have my Sony A7R3 on me. But honestly if the only place you VIEW your photos is on the phone it wont matter, then it just becomes ease of use and access. iOS is still easier for my family to use and share photos, and that's all that matters is actually seeing the photos you care to see.
Everytime a listen "iOS is easier..." or "Android is easier" it comes from people who don't use the other OS often. Of course it is easier to use the one you know!, same as if you give an iOS device to an Android user he will equally struggle to get things done. But the fact is that both OS are very easy to use, to share pictures and everything else, but specially the OS that you use every day. The only difference is that iOS makes you slave of one manufacturer forcing you to buy highly overpriced devices, while Android does not. All the key parts of an iPhone devices are manufactured by Samsung, LG, Sony, and TSMC (display, battery, RAM, storage, camera, and CPU ...) but when they are rebranded as "Apple" you have to pay double for them.
Pixel 7 user here. IMO, both snappers did a nice to good enough job in most categories. I've been carrying both a Pixel and an iPhone since 2019, so I may not have a fair point of reference, but there probably are no bad smartphone cameras under, say $400 on the modern domestic smartphone market.
Great information. Was about to upgrade from the Note 10+ to the S23 Ultra but think I will squeeze out one more year with the Note 10+ and go with the S24 Ultra. The iPhone is a great phone but too limiting for my liking.
You loved the Pixel 6 Pro when it came out so I'm surprised you aren't including the Pixel 7 Pro in this comparison with the latest Samsung and Apple phones. And I'm especially curious about the Pixel 8 Pro coming out this fall.
I have both phones and I take the same photos with the phones every time I take photos and sometimes the iPhone photos is great and sometimes the photos is unusable, same thing goes for the s23 ultra but the s23 ultra is a little bit more flexible.
I am using Xperia 1iv .... although Dxomark recently ranked it bad but I am so pleased with the photo that it's taking. So natural and so pleasing. I wanted to take the iPhone 14 Pro max but while it was in my hand I have switched with Xperia. Why? Check with other video or Dpreview sensor compare, iPhone has something bleach bypass thing going on with their color. If you take a photo of the sea or any true colored subject, you will see iPhone will change it to something else where Xperia does not.
Finally The first video on the whole of TH-cam that I will actually trust as I know you know everything there is to know about cameras. The 200mp and 8K is a gimmick. The 8k video looks very crisp yes, but it’s full of imperfections when blown up onto a full sized TV, and that 200mp sensor is also a gimmick. With that little lens you’d be lucky to show 20mp worth of resolution. A 30mp 5D mkiv DSLR would walk all over it in image quality and technically has over 6 times less mega pixels. I use my iPhone for its simplicity and unbeatable video quality, then if I want to take the best photos, I’ll use my DSLR. The iPhone takes photos I cannot argue with for a phone. Obviously the Samsung has better zoom capability past 10X, as it has a dedicated lens. However up until 10X which is a more useable focal length the iPhone takes the better shots. The 48mp on the iPhone is also far more useable in 90% of scenarios than the 200mp of the Samsung.
I have the iPhone 14 Pro, and I'm curious how it compares to an old DSLR, say the Canon 5D with 24-70mm lens? Have modern sensors and computational photography in the iPhone 14 Pro allowed it to surpass old DSLRs? It's definitely much easier to take a smartphone hiking and out and about compared to a DSLR. Totally apples to oranges comparison, but it's something I've wondered about.
My daughter has the iPhone 13 pro, not sure if the camera is the same as in the 14, but I guess it probably is and both my Nikon DSLRS blitz it for photo quality. Once you get the photos onto a big screen you will see the difference, especially in the detail and colours. Close ups not as big difference but still there is a difference, but if you are zooming or using in low light the DSLRS are way ahead. Doesn't mean to say the iPhone is not a good substitute for a DSLR as for simply sharing on social media or if you are just doing some close up photography or general landscape photography it will be more than suitable. If you are serious about wanting to get the best shots that you can without having to spend time doing lots of editing after then DSLR all the way. Depends what you want from your photography and how you wish to show off your photos. But nowadays for most average users any smartphone will take more than satisfactory photos, except when it comes to zooming in on objects a long way off, especially wildlife they are not even close to say a DSLR with a long zoom lens attached to it. I know I have a 600mm lens exactly for the purpose of capturing wildlife clearly even from a long way off.
At face value a phone photo will look good, but the detail will never be as good as a DSLR simply because of sensor size. If you are looking to print your photos, I would use a DSLR. Otherwise, a phone camera will do just fine for most uses. I have an Instagram where I post my pictures for my friends to see, and they can never tell which ones are taken with my phone or my DSLR (Canon 90D)
The crop sensor on my ancient Nikon D 300 12 megapixel is far better than my 14 Pro Max or my daughters S 23 ultra, is physics there's nothing you can do about that
I have the iPhone 14 Pro. I like it but as someone who is in the Apple ecosystem with a M1 MacBook Pro and Apple Watch etc. I'm not going to defend the iPhone and say it's better than the S23 Ultra. From what I've seen I think the s23 Ultra is better on some levels but I never bought into the 200mp part - that's a marketing ploy IMO. My main camera is the Canon R5 - if I want to take "serious" shots I'll use that, especially when it comes to telephoto but to be fair I'm well impressed with the iPhone for normal everyday stuff. If I was given a choice of either the iPhone or a Samsung, I still think I would go for the iPhone .
I’man iPhone user and something I realize by experience is cropping is better than digital zoom. IPhone gives you 2x optical zoom. Don’t go further. Take your photo with the 2x optical zoom and crop it later. The result will be much more natural.
Wonderfully unbiased... yes my nose is growing a Mach 3! I have an S23 Ultra, I've had two previous Note's 3 & 9, and the Galacy S Captiva r e back in 2010. In not in the crApple "sheeple" ecosystem and never will be. I like choice and options and not being overtly dictated to by an IT overboard that demands fealty.
3:33 you still have iPhone 14 on the screen on the right when you were comparing the 200mp to the 50mp mode on the Samsung, just in case people were thinking it was the iPhone performing that badly lol.
we use nearby share on android. I also use onedrive so my photos are already on my computer when i get home. I also add specific folders to lightrooom on my phone or tablet and its in lightroom on my computer when i get home as well.
Im a photographer and I always watch your gear reviews. As soon as I saw that you have also compared the camera capabilities of these two smartphones, other s23u/14pm camera comparisons dont matter much anymore. In terms of photography and camera reviews, you are one of the GOAT. 💙
Had both and returned the s23 ultra. I felt the s23 ultra is by FAR a better standalone device overall but like you stated, ecosystem. As far as cameras, I felt the s23 ultra to be more versatile and fun to shoot with and the IPhone was more consistent in the results. The shutter “lag” on the s23 ultra also posed a problem with moving subjects, creating soft and sometimes blurry results. Camera is really important to me and with the consistent and more reliable results, I chose iPhone. I REALLY wish the iPhone had 10x optical!
S23 ultra has option for reducing shutter lag. I think this is disabled by default because many people moves the phone when clicking the shooting button
My 2 cents: 1) You can add magsafe to any Android device easily using stickers or cases. 2) You can sync your Android phone with your Windows device using Microsoft's MyPhone app. With it you can transfer pictures quickly, send messages, receive notifications, sync clipboards etc. 3) Both IP14 Pro and S23U have amazing cameras and you can't go wrong with either device. It all comes down to user preference. 4) It would be interesting to test a phone with a 1inch sensor such as the Xiaomi 13 Pro or the Vivo X90 Pro Plus.
Awsome video like always. I would like the same truth video about a comparison between the best phones photos and the best cameras (for instance a medium format Fuji or hasselblad) Comparing resolution and dynamic range,. Night photography, low light photography, on a tripod, without tripod etc So sick of those TH-cam videos pretending phone photos Equal best real cameras. Please put in évidence when cameras destroy phones and when phones make photography easier
Huge disappointment on this comparison, unprofessional (or biased?) 1. On 200MP test part, which mainly focused on low light/indoor complex light situation, which is not a tiny 200MP sensor designed for. If not a scene with bright light and objects with details, how can you tell if there's more details or just sharpening? Also, Samsung can choose less sharpening in Camera Assistant. 2. At 2:38, claimed adding details without proof that there's no that details is misleading. 3. Clearly using Expert RAW at 5:25, which Samsung told you is a processed. It has the REAL RAW in Pro mode! BTW, Expert RAW also has a lot of options to play with if you want. 4. Close up shot, personal preference, S23 U win for me. 5. At 9:30, iPhone seems a little smoother, but is it running by the same person at same time? Also iPhone footage blow out all the highlights on the concretes and beach. I enjoy the way of your discussion style though. Hopefully the know better about your phone and compare it in a more control variable method way next time.
to really compare raw photos you should have taken them with pro mode in the main camera app and not in the expert raw - contrary to what the name suggests those "raw" files are processed and just saved as a dng file
I enjoyed this comparison WAY more than I enjoyed either one of these phones (neither of which I would recommend). Fun, detailed, and informative, as always.
The best camera is the one that’s in your hand. I’ve missed 3 shots that would have been notable from a photojournalistic standpoint. Cellphones are there when you need them!
Guess I'll be sticking with my Pixel 7 Pro. Love the zoom on the S23 though. Thanks for doing this video. Have you had a chance to look at the Xiaomi 13 Pro?
I missed you guys havent seen a video in a long time since I was using my old Nikon D3300 ... now I've got an iPhone 14 Pro Max and decided to look and educate myself by watching you quality videos !
ExpertRAW is more like a more flexible Auto mode. Pro mode allows you to take true RAW bayer snaps that not only are truer to what the sensor is capturing initially but also more flexible. I much prefer it to both ProRAW and ExpertRAW. It would be nice if you could compare those.
Loved this! How about the OnePlus 10 Pro? I've never had my hands on it, but there's a lot of hype about the camera in that phone with its Hasselblad optics. Image quality SHOULD out-perform both Apple and Samsung...one would think...
I have this phone (s23ultra) and love it, but the post processing baked into raw shots seems very counterintuitive, you can watch the phone do it, your showed the actual raw file for a brief moment before the device rapes the image.
Great video! Loving the transparency… both have their advantages and disadvantages… it all boils down to preference… I love the s23 ultra but I’m too deep in the Apple ecosystem 🤷🏾♂️… I’ll lose way too much in terms of functionality and seamless workflow going beyond the phone itself by switching back to android. I’m not even tempted to switch back 😂… and I switched from android from just 2021… the ecosystem is that good and changed my perspective of these mobile devices being of more a tool than a toy, content consumption and communication device that also takes great pictures 🤷🏾♂️. But can’t wait to see what these phone companies do with these computational photography tricks in the future… they’re definitely not there yet, but fairly close to making your smartphone the camera you need for most situations… especially since they’re so small and portable.
Great test, but screw phones - I was amazed how you two guys are soooo adorable :) So much love in the air. I'm definitely subscribing & watching more often.
Great fun!!! Honestly, I don't believe any smart phone boasts an incredible camera... But they do ok, and they are always on you.. Just picked up the S23 ultra, moving up.... or maybe sideways from my S21 ultra. It's an improvement, but not as incredible as I hoped it would be... There are improvements, but the biggest improvements in my opinion are the low light shots. Everything else is subjective. I have also used the pixel 6 pro, and the i phone 13 pro max... I am not an i phone guy, but they still make a good product. All in all each phone has strengths and weaknesses, but none being leaps and bounds better or worse than the other. To me they are all portable cameras that fail to compare to the cameras that they wish they were. None the less, they are fun, and for day to day memories and practice, they are great.. Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed the banter and honesty.
I love my iPhone 14 pro max and the raw photos are really good and video is a clear winner for me..Overall I think they are the best cameras on a smartphone so far..
as an aspiring astrophotographer, I'm only interested in the camera that can boast the most mp in low light. The small sensor 200mp does not work in low light at all, so forget astro. Also the most precise manual focus. I know this is a lot to ask of a cell phone, but my next phone I will be aiming for that.
Which phone has the least uncomfortable ergonomics for photos? I rather care more about that than even the picture quality - the current phone ergos are so awful that I avoid taking photos with my phone if I have any other option.
Vivo X90 has a 1 inch sensor. I would be curious how it performs next to these in the "post processing" debate. Better yet, how the RAW files hold up at higher ISOs.
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I've used both but I'm enjoying the overall camera system on the S23Ultra. The zoom is what really wins me over. Watching my kids play soccer, track, and basketball..the zoom comes in clutch! 4k at 10x optical zoom is unmatched! Also I love all the other options, really liking the 50mp mode, seems to be the best of both worlds.
Expert raw are not real raw files, they are pre processed and oversharpened as you noticed, real raw is in Pro Mode of the stock app.
Whole video was a lie ? 🤣
If this is true, I'd love for them to test it and pin a comment.
The images still look good though
@@andrewhammett4805 Depends, as with all full auto modes luck is involved. And often if you raise shadows in that fake raw it looks like a jpg. It denoises well, but I prefer a little noise and some more details from the real raw files.
I smell an iphone fan
Not into apple and their monopoly. Just upgraded from a note 20 ultra 5g to the s23 ultra and I am super pleased with it. Would love to see a review from you comparing the cameras on Pixel 7 pro and S23 Ultra
Same here, its an upgrade, but not very far I must confess.
I had a lucrative offer from Samsung to trade in my Note 20 Ultra towards the S23 but I'm not willing to give up the SD card slot.
@RYTHMIC RIOT I agree why why why
The problem with the alternatives is that they run Android, which to me is horrible to use and a big deal killer. How do I know? I've had 5 Android devices over the years for various reasons and always feel more at home in iOS. You may feel differently which is totally OK - we are lucky to have the choice.
@@MicroFourThirdsCornerI switched from Apple to Android. If you haven't tried android on the S20 and above you probably aren't experiencing the best OS available. Most new features Apple introduces were originated on android. I couldn't imagine going back.
Here is the problem. The latest camera update Ruined the 200MP mode. Before there was no sharpening. Everyone is complaining about it. Techyonion showed the before and after. Samsung need to put back the old camera processing for 200MP. It would be par with the Sony.
Yes exactly. The last update messed up the processing but next update most possibly will fix it back. So do round 2 after another update
Bro i'm coming from that video as well. Samsung totally ruined the 200mp camera with the last camera update. Hopefully there's a way to roll back to the previous version
You guys did the review at the wrong time. If you see how good the 200MP was before the last update, search techyonion in youtube. Last update reduced the quality of the 200MP and added sharpening. Before the update there was no sharpening.
I have yet seen no proof that quality was reduced. You can't compare images with unknown properties in different conditions.
@@donnawetter1513 this is a known issue, search online. I have the s23 ultra huge difference in quality after the last update, the quality is very poor compared to last software before update.
With 4x4 pixel binning, it's not clear how much value you'd get out of the Samsung 200-megapixel raw file. In my tests I saw no real resolution improvement over 50MP shots. Samsung uses AI to interpolate the RGB color values for each pixel in those 16-pixel patches, so there's a lot of processing even before the demosaicing and oversharpening and oversaturation. But yes, I still wish I could pixel peep all the way at the 200MP raw files.
I also agree about the overprocessed Samsung raw. One big difference for me: Apple lets you take raw photos with all its cameras, not just the main, wide-angle camera. The telephoto cameras on the S23U would be better if you weren't locked to HEIC/JPEG formats.
Have not watched you guys in 7 years since I closed my studio. Other than looking much older Tony :) it’s great to see your channel has grown to the size it has and you’re still going strong.
What have you been doing after closing your studio? Just curious!
This is why I love your videos also about smartphones: The photographer perspective and not the usual Tech TH-camr perspective.
I'm a photography and tech geek and use the 14 pro, but sold my S22 Ultra and I also like the Pixel 7 Pro I've used for 6 months. I like these phones for different reasons.
In the end I have the most fun with my Xperia 5 IV as daily driver and to take photos (with a real shutter button *love it*) and making videos on it. The processing is so much more natural and I have all the controls in my hand and even in the "BASIC" mode, you can still point & shoot if needed in a hurry and the post-processing is doing it with less magic compared to the Samsung/Apple/Google devices, but they catching up with every generation but still keeping it more natural look.
On the Pixel, iPhone and the S22/23 ultra it is boring over time. Just press the shutter button on those devices and the post-processing is doing the magic...and many times with overprocessing and too social media oriented. Not bad in certain situations, but like I said: BORING :)
Keep your great work and your amazing chemistry :)
After this comment I have to order a Sony.
Apple has Air Drop which is proprietary, BUT Samsung has the new Quick Share which simply creates a link that ANYONE can use to download any size files on any device with a simple click. Suck it Apple!
The expert raw app always processes the images. If you want real raw you have to use the baked in pro mode in the normal camera app on the S23 Ultra. Also maybe you have to change the camera settings to activate raw files im pro mode. ( at least that is the case on other Samsung Phones ) Did you use the expert raw app for the raw images, or did you use the camera app ?
it does look like they are using the expert raw app, but even in pro mode you are still locked to the 50mp and the same setting suits. I actually uninstalled the expert raw app because i couldn't actually find anything that it could do that i couldn't do on the standard pro mode.
@@NoESanity okay, because i experienced way more heavy processing when i used the expert raw app instead of the pro mode.. in pro mode with the settings switched to raw my fold 3 does not show any processing
I use the Google pixel 6a. Basic but does the job. For photography it is not the picture quality but the editing which makes it a good camera phone and for the price it is a fantastic phone. I normally shoot on Fuji, Sony and Ricoh
They now have Mag style cases for the S23 Ultra FYI. Great comparison and very informative!
I came to the comments to say the same thing 😉
I do wish it was built into the phone like with the iPhones. Some of the aftermarket ones for Samsung S22/S23 Ultra interfere with the S Pen. I've got a Pitaka MagEZ case for my S22 Ultra which is the only one I could find specifically advertised to not interfere with the S Pen. But I would love to have a grip, kickstand and lanyard attachment built into my case, however having magnetic mounting was the most important case feature for me so I went with the Pitaka. If the magnetic mounting was built into the phone, I could put whatever outer case I wanted on the phone and still have the magnetic attachment.
I suppose you can just put a metal plate between the phone and your case of choice, and that would still mount to magnetic accessories but have the benefit of not interfering with the S Pen. However it's not going to work as well as a dedicated MagSafe or MagSafe-compatabile array in the phone as that gives a stronger attraction and aligns everything properly. The MagSafe array in my Pitaka case is just about strong enough on its own to hold the phone to a fridge!
I have the Samsung S23 Ultra, and well the camera I find is awesome...great to see the improvements where it counts...this phone is noticeably faster than even the S22 Ultra. This being said I also have a fujifilmX-T2; hopefully soon to upgrade, so when I want to take some more controllable shots that is what I use. I do get a good amount of use from the telephoto lens on this phone and it really should be an option on flagship phones. There are times when the full 200 MP option is nice, Id say try taking a picture in a studio setup with all equipment and review to see if there is really a difference, someone below mentioned that this sharpening is only baked into the expert raw app. Maybe follow his suggestion of using the basic camera raw setting. Last thing to consider is, as this is a new sensor on a new phone there will be tweaking and fixes in upcoming updates. Iphone had the same issues when they firstly introduced the 48MP sensor. All in all I have this phone, my wife has the Iphone 14 pro and we get similar results when taking pics anytime, there are colour differences of course but they are down to personal preferences. Airdrop is nice to have, but honestly there are other ways to send people a pic or video wirelessly on any platform. I like to just connect my phone to my computer; Mac or PC via cable and have just full access to the phone memory.
Nearby share is airdrop equivalent of android
The last sentence hit the nail on the head. Nothing beats a physical cable when having to transfer over dozens of GB of files to a computer for editing.
Samsung's link sharing (built in to the share menu) also works with no issues. It's limited by wifi speed unlike Wifi Direct, but that's usually not an issue at home.
The video stabilization is equally amazing in both cameras in my opinion, and the macro of the Samsung was sharper and more appealing to my eye, including the shadow in that image, in contrast to your assessment. (A few days ago, I ordered the S23 Ultra. I currently own the S21 Ultra. I am, in particular, looking forward to the 10x optical zoom.)
Guys, these are smarphones. No one is going to share with friends or social media 100x crops of 200mp photos. Both phones are the best out there, with the s23 being more versatile, better potrait mode, and better selfie cam.
I'm a teacher. You can't imagine the joy of the pupils zooming in on their silly faces with the S23U 200mp class photo. It's a whole different level and the kids loved it.
This was a fun video to watch! I was reminded of the Autel Nano+ 48 MP option that doesn't really look that great. Better to use the standard resolution. Digital trickery isn't always the best but it is getting better. With AI becoming so prevalent, the next model should be really interesting. Imagine having Topaz built in to sharpen blurry photos or just tack sharpen sharp photos.
Keep in mind - 93% of all photographers print large prints from their phones, so this sort of comparisons are really relevant.
I'd like to see the iPhone's 48mp camera paired up with telephoto lenses. Are there any good systems out there? Fore instance I know that moment might be an option, but are they any good? Maybe there is a better option. I don't know. I'd like to see a video about this.
I live in Argentina, were you can buy an s23 ultra for half the money than an iphone 14 max. And the same goes for tablets, watches or laptops. You have to be crazy or rich to be in the apple ecosystem here. I'm really happy with my s23 ultra for casual photography, but I would never leave my Sony A73 behind if things get serious. Great video, btw, as always!
I have a S22 Ultra and I would love the Apple ecosystem and how easy it is to interact with other users but I don't want to be completely locked into it either. The Airtag has a much bigger user base in case it gets lost compared to the Galaxy Smart Tag for instance, but I do like that you can press the button on the Smart Tag to ring your phone. If I lived in a big city in the US, I feel like owning an iPhone would make your life a lot easier considering how many people use them around here.
what on earth has the Apple "ecosystem" got to do with interacting with other users ? t is simple to interact using an Android phone. Never use apps that lock you to a device. I would never downgrade again to an iphone.
@@martinspedding4210what is with ppl claiming iPhones lock them in or they feel restricted using an iPhone what is it that u want to do on your phone doesn’t Samsung want to lock ppl in like apple
@@CashCollecta Apple is all about Apple vendor lock in. For example Facetime or messages that only work on Apple devices. Also devices such as Apple watch which only sync to Apple devices. Android is used across devices from multiple manufacturers and so if it runs on one device running Android it will on all other devices running that version of Android. I have owned devices from Xiaomi, Huawei, Google and Samsung. It is seemless moving between them... That is huge difference
At about 5 mins in when you were talking about going into the settings to even get the option to enable raw shooting on the iphone is true. But there is an additional option (for pretty much any camera setting in fact) to not reset those options everytime you close the app. Just wanted to clarify that for those wondering
Really informative and entertaining!!! Kudos guys!!
This channel is a gem! I’m glad to get this video recommended! Also love those cool and funny conversations! Kudos to you Tony and Chelsea!
I'm REALLY loving my Pixel 7 Pro, but I really wish it had an option to use manual controls. For the most part the AI does a good job, but there are times where I wish I could manually dial in my focus.
I miss my Google phone, My next phone will be another Google Pixel
"'m REALLY loving my Pixel 7 Pro, but I really wish it had an option to use manual controls." Same. Its one fatal flaw.
200 megapixels or even 48 megapixels on a tiny sensor and displayed on at most an 8 megapixel screen. How does that make sense?
Man, she is biased like a diode and there is nothing he can do about it. 😂
Stabilization cannot be tested by two different people running because of all personal specs of running style, joints, etc; especially a male and a female have different stabilization in hip zone - female's mass center will move more due to wider hips
this comparison was a lot more fun to watch than your usual tech channels :)
Because they are real photographers instead of any other trying hard tech reviewers who can’t give justice to the cameras they are reviewing. 😂
How about audio quality when shooting video? Many say it is more important than the video.
Love this, so informative and I probably laughed more than I should have. I've always been an android user, currently still using my S21 ultra. Hoping for the S23 soon! I used to love LGs phones for photos, but they took a step back.
I wish LG would start making phones again!! To many glitches with my S22 Ultra! I Loved my LG V series phones!
I upgraded from the S21U to the S23U. Camera-wise the improvements are small IMHO. But the battery life is drastically improved.
@@therelaxationnurse3742 I definitely miss when LG was in the game. I felt like they did a great job.
@@Antonis24 that's good to know! I'll hold out until it becomes worth it
@@backroadsphoto_by_fish LG was very innovative. They were the first ones to have wide-angle cameras. LG went downhill because of TH-cam reviewers crapping on them. The same TH-camrs that were paid by Samsung and Apple to push their phones! And everybody fell for it
"200 megapixels, but you're an apple person, so I get that" literally died laughing
Really appreciate the candid opinions. It's so hard nowadays to find reliable in-depth info on many topics. I'm looking forward to the Pixel 8 Pro. If they can give it at least a 10x optical zoom, better video quality and maybe have sensors that don't require as much post-processing, then that system will be all I need as an amateur photographer.
They are giving you that, and it improves with every generation. Its just that no one algorithm is going to please everyone. That's what you're seeing here.
These smartphone cameras are for those that don't want to do-it-yourself. They're designed with the common shooter in mind that just wants good results straight out of the camera.
All these types want to do is to compose and press play. Although there's nothing preventing them from having a true RAW mode without their generic recipe for the more seasoned crowd. Some apps such as FILMic Pro, do a better job with this.
First of, you can get magsafe for the S23 Ultra. There's several covers for the phone with built in magsafe. So just get one of those and you got magsafe too.
As far as the baked in noise cancellation and sharpening, I totally agree. I don't want that. Or at least I want to be able to shoot without it when ever I need that. So I totally agree with you there.
Got the S23 Ultra. And yes, the 200MP isn't close to actual 200MP of details. To be honest the 50MP isn't close to 50MP either. But most of that is due to the dang noise cancellation and sharpening processing. But for digital use, it's actually pretty good. But you don't want to be pixel peeping, or printing very large prints. Still it beats the iPhone though.
I agree about being locked into Apple's system and not getting to choose your camera! Are there any third party camera apps in the app store that maybe work better than the default one? Maybe something that gives you raw, manual control, less processing, etc.? I'm not an iphone user so I'd be interested to know.
ProCamera, it does all that and more really worth a shot
Lightroom
There are a lot of options, Lightroom does have a manual control camera built-in but I find it a bit clunky. ProCamera as previously mentioned is good, I use Camera M as I find it very good with touch controls, and you also have Halide Mark II. The last of which I have never personally used but I hear a lot of good things about it.
I have the S21 ultra. I use it everyday as notebook aid more than as a camera. I like it for photographing restaurant food that I am served. Much more convenient that a camera. For serious photography it is too hard to use quickly in challenging or bright outdoor situations. Still it has a definite place in my life to grab a quick record of things, receipts and documents for record keeping. You might include the Pixel Pro in these comparisons. Those that have them do seem rave about their cameras. My S21 is good enough for my usage. I switch to the R5 and L glass when it is serious and demanding photography. I use my G5XII when I seek something better than phone in the middle group usage between phone and R5.
I love my S23 Ultra, best overall phone and camera, and fits in my ecosystem with my galaxy watch 5, galaxy buds pro, and galaxy tab s7 plus. And I can easily quick share any files back and forth to my tab or pc. The S23 Ultra has so many features I wouldn't get on apple phone
Ive been ok the Samsung ultra Bandcamp ever since jumping ship from my Lumia 950 as windows phone apps started shutting down. The S23 Ultra has delivered my best ever results from a phone camera. Granted, I use the zoom lenses way more than the 200mp mode.
Great comparison. I have both the iPhone 14 Pro and S23 Ultra. I primarily use the Ultra because it really does feel like the best phone camera ever, but yes, it oversharpens, but they may fix that in a future update.
Sounds like Samsung needs to make an update to their camera software. I figured their 200 megapixel was just marketing.
Isn't there a setting in Camera Assistant which can change the amount of sharpening? Also, scene optimizer goes nuts with oversharpening! That's why I tend to turn it off now.
Currently using S21 Plus, and I'm quite satisfied with the camera system. I would like to see Xiaomi 13 Ultra vs Samsung or Apple comparison, please. The latest Xiaomi flagship looks so cool.
Time to upgrade from the S20U to the new 23 ultra, thank you for the insight. I also use iPhone which I prefer for video.
I use iPhone 14 Pro..and yes, it is a “system” with phone, MacBook Pro and Apple Watch Ultra! Because of that, I can wait for 200mm zoom! 😀
I always enjoy your reviews and listen carefully to your criticisms on products. That said, my phone’s camera is my second option for photo taking. If it’s not perfectly in focus, all details spot on, I don’t care. I’ll edit and get them to where I need them. Until Apple or other carriers start making honest to God fantastic cameras, we’ll be reviewing and comparing until the end of time.
Mag safe cases are available for Samsung. Quick share will let you send a link to Apple user to download full images/ video. Quick/nearby share is Samsung/ androids version of air drop respectively.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure a lot of people have gotten used to the "misconception" that only Apple does certain things. That hasn't been the case for at least 3 years. Android, well at least Samsung, has provided equivalent iPhone functionality in many ways. They didn't acknowledge phone link that allows you to use your phone on Windows to message, make calls, run any app, or move files. It's the equivalent of air drop and more for Android/Windows users. It's getting old that reviewers don't do their due diligence to actually see what Android has to offer and goes off of assumptions from 5+ years ago than no longer apply.
I have a iPhone 13 pro and its fine for quick captures if I don't happen to have my Sony A7R3 on me. But honestly if the only place you VIEW your photos is on the phone it wont matter, then it just becomes ease of use and access. iOS is still easier for my family to use and share photos, and that's all that matters is actually seeing the photos you care to see.
Everytime a listen "iOS is easier..." or "Android is easier" it comes from people who don't use the other OS often. Of course it is easier to use the one you know!, same as if you give an iOS device to an Android user he will equally struggle to get things done.
But the fact is that both OS are very easy to use, to share pictures and everything else, but specially the OS that you use every day.
The only difference is that iOS makes you slave of one manufacturer forcing you to buy highly overpriced devices, while Android does not. All the key parts of an iPhone devices are manufactured by Samsung, LG, Sony, and TSMC (display, battery, RAM, storage, camera, and CPU ...) but when they are rebranded as "Apple" you have to pay double for them.
@@javiej agreed...100 percent correct
Pixel 7 user here. IMO, both snappers did a nice to good enough job in most categories. I've been carrying both a Pixel and an iPhone since 2019, so I may not have a fair point of reference, but there probably are no bad smartphone cameras under, say $400 on the modern domestic smartphone market.
Great information. Was about to upgrade from the Note 10+ to the S23 Ultra but think I will squeeze out one more year with the Note 10+ and go with the S24 Ultra. The iPhone is a great phone but too limiting for my liking.
I loved the banter. Great video Tony and Chelsea!
Would be interesting to see a comparison with the Leica Leitz Phone 2.
This is great. Thanks TC
Would be great if you compare the One Plus 11 and Google Pixel 7 Pro as well vs these findings.
Also, I would like to add I am very appreciative of actual photographers review versus the countless tech channel reviews of these devices.
Great video. Still use my Samsung S8+, which has a pretty good camera. Looking forward to the latest and greatest Samsung :)
Same, only I just have the base S8. Does enough for me. I can't warrant the price of a new phone. If I want good photos I use my actual camera.
Test these phones against Xiaomi 13 pro(1 inch sensor)
You loved the Pixel 6 Pro when it came out so I'm surprised you aren't including the Pixel 7 Pro in this comparison with the latest Samsung and Apple phones. And I'm especially curious about the Pixel 8 Pro coming out this fall.
I have both phones and I take the same photos with the phones every time I take photos and sometimes the iPhone photos is great and sometimes the photos is unusable, same thing goes for the s23 ultra but the s23 ultra is a little bit more flexible.
Wow, great vid! The way you both interact is on a new level: fun & information, I’m lovin’ it 😊
I am using Xperia 1iv .... although Dxomark recently ranked it bad but I am so pleased with the photo that it's taking. So natural and so pleasing. I wanted to take the iPhone 14 Pro max but while it was in my hand I have switched with Xperia. Why? Check with other video or Dpreview sensor compare, iPhone has something bleach bypass thing going on with their color. If you take a photo of the sea or any true colored subject, you will see iPhone will change it to something else where Xperia does not.
IPhone 14 Pro Max has awful colour/tint problems. Why is this not mentioned more often by reviewers though?. Have they been 'bought'?. Seriously.
@@neilmcguinness4422 Have same issues with my wifes Iphone 14. Too much yellow tint.
Finally
The first video on the whole of TH-cam that I will actually trust as I know you know everything there is to know about cameras. The 200mp and 8K is a gimmick. The 8k video looks very crisp yes, but it’s full of imperfections when blown up onto a full sized TV, and that 200mp sensor is also a gimmick. With that little lens you’d be lucky to show 20mp worth of resolution. A 30mp 5D mkiv DSLR would walk all over it in image quality and technically has over 6 times less mega pixels. I use my iPhone for its simplicity and unbeatable video quality, then if I want to take the best photos, I’ll use my DSLR. The iPhone takes photos I cannot argue with for a phone. Obviously the Samsung has better zoom capability past 10X, as it has a dedicated lens. However up until 10X which is a more useable focal length the iPhone takes the better shots. The 48mp on the iPhone is also far more useable in 90% of scenarios than the 200mp of the Samsung.
I have the iPhone 14 Pro, and I'm curious how it compares to an old DSLR, say the Canon 5D with 24-70mm lens? Have modern sensors and computational photography in the iPhone 14 Pro allowed it to surpass old DSLRs? It's definitely much easier to take a smartphone hiking and out and about compared to a DSLR. Totally apples to oranges comparison, but it's something I've wondered about.
My daughter has the iPhone 13 pro, not sure if the camera is the same as in the 14, but I guess it probably is and both my Nikon DSLRS blitz it for photo quality. Once you get the photos onto a big screen you will see the difference, especially in the detail and colours. Close ups not as big difference but still there is a difference, but if you are zooming or using in low light the DSLRS are way ahead. Doesn't mean to say the iPhone is not a good substitute for a DSLR as for simply sharing on social media or if you are just doing some close up photography or general landscape photography it will be more than suitable. If you are serious about wanting to get the best shots that you can without having to spend time doing lots of editing after then DSLR all the way. Depends what you want from your photography and how you wish to show off your photos. But nowadays for most average users any smartphone will take more than satisfactory photos, except when it comes to zooming in on objects a long way off, especially wildlife they are not even close to say a DSLR with a long zoom lens attached to it. I know I have a 600mm lens exactly for the purpose of capturing wildlife clearly even from a long way off.
At face value a phone photo will look good, but the detail will never be as good as a DSLR simply because of sensor size. If you are looking to print your photos, I would use a DSLR. Otherwise, a phone camera will do just fine for most uses. I have an Instagram where I post my pictures for my friends to see, and they can never tell which ones are taken with my phone or my DSLR (Canon 90D)
The crop sensor on my ancient Nikon D 300 12 megapixel is far better than my 14 Pro Max or my daughters S 23 ultra, is physics there's nothing you can do about that
Why was this between the S23 Ultra and the iPhone 14 Pro, not the Pro Max?
I have the iPhone 14 Pro. I like it but as someone who is in the Apple ecosystem with a M1 MacBook Pro and Apple Watch etc. I'm not going to defend the iPhone and say it's better than the S23 Ultra. From what I've seen I think the s23 Ultra is better on some levels but I never bought into the 200mp part - that's a marketing ploy IMO.
My main camera is the Canon R5 - if I want to take "serious" shots I'll use that, especially when it comes to telephoto but to be fair I'm well impressed with the iPhone for normal everyday stuff.
If I was given a choice of either the iPhone or a Samsung, I still think I would go for the iPhone .
This was well-made and fun. I know it's off-topic, but I gotta say, those drone shots were so cool!👏
Love my Ultra 23 🔥🔥🔥
That took a lot of work. You guys are good, great sitcom. Old guy, old school, ya wanna take a picture, use de camera.
Great video! I think it would be really interesting to see, how these two compare with the Xiaomi 13 Pro with the Leica lenses.
The double tap power button to camera on the galaxy you can be in any app and it will bring up the camera , that is a handy camera feature.
I bought a magsafe compatible case for my Samsung S23 Ultra and it works great. I use it with my magsafe car mount with wireless charging.
Can you use the Pen then?
I’man iPhone user and something I realize by experience is cropping is better than digital zoom. IPhone gives you 2x optical zoom. Don’t go further. Take your photo with the 2x optical zoom and crop it later. The result will be much more natural.
Wonderfully unbiased... yes my nose is growing a Mach 3! I have an S23 Ultra, I've had two previous Note's 3 & 9, and the Galacy S Captiva r e back in 2010. In not in the crApple "sheeple" ecosystem and never will be. I like choice and options and not being overtly dictated to by an IT overboard that demands fealty.
3:33 you still have iPhone 14 on the screen on the right when you were comparing the 200mp to the 50mp mode on the Samsung, just in case people were thinking it was the iPhone performing that badly lol.
I've done both comparisons on Galaxy s23 ultra and iPhone 14 pro max for video and photos. The Galaxy S23 ultra wins on both.
we use nearby share on android. I also use onedrive so my photos are already on my computer when i get home. I also add specific folders to lightrooom on my phone or tablet and its in lightroom on my computer when i get home as well.
iPhone lovers never accept Samsung is better 👎🏽
No we do when we see proof because it’s hard to find a phone that ACTUALLY does something better
Im a photographer and I always watch your gear reviews. As soon as I saw that you have also compared the camera capabilities of these two smartphones, other s23u/14pm camera comparisons dont matter much anymore. In terms of photography and camera reviews, you are one of the GOAT. 💙
Had both and returned the s23 ultra. I felt the s23 ultra is by FAR a better standalone device overall but like you stated, ecosystem. As far as cameras, I felt the s23 ultra to be more versatile and fun to shoot with and the IPhone was more consistent in the results. The shutter “lag” on the s23 ultra also posed a problem with moving subjects, creating soft and sometimes blurry results. Camera is really important to me and with the consistent and more reliable results, I chose iPhone. I REALLY wish the iPhone had 10x optical!
S23 ultra has option for reducing shutter lag. I think this is disabled by default because many people moves the phone when clicking the shooting button
@@andreafortuna3985 It does. Unfortunately,
it reduces the quality.
My 2 cents:
1) You can add magsafe to any Android device easily using stickers or cases.
2) You can sync your Android phone with your Windows device using Microsoft's MyPhone app. With it you can transfer pictures quickly, send messages, receive notifications, sync clipboards etc.
3) Both IP14 Pro and S23U have amazing cameras and you can't go wrong with either device. It all comes down to user preference.
4) It would be interesting to test a phone with a 1inch sensor such as the Xiaomi 13 Pro or the Vivo X90 Pro Plus.
Fake 1inch sensor as always
Expert raw and normal raw are completely different things!!
That is an issue with how they do it then. Raw should be Raw, there shouldn't be two different Raw photo settings.
@@brandonw1604 not an issue, they are giving us options!
@@leonardomedeiros5408 More like mislabeling. An over sharpened jpg isn't a RAW photo.
@@brandonw1604 you clearly don't know what you are talking abour
@@leonardomedeiros5408 that a raw photo should be in the raw format and not already in a jpg?
Awsome video like always.
I would like the same truth video about a comparison between the best phones photos and the best cameras (for instance a medium format Fuji or hasselblad)
Comparing resolution and dynamic range,. Night photography, low light photography, on a tripod, without tripod etc
So sick of those TH-cam videos pretending phone photos Equal best real cameras.
Please put in évidence when cameras destroy phones and when phones make photography easier
Huge disappointment on this comparison, unprofessional (or biased?)
1. On 200MP test part, which mainly focused on low light/indoor complex light situation, which is not a tiny 200MP sensor designed for. If not a scene with bright light and objects with details, how can you tell if there's more details or just sharpening? Also, Samsung can choose less sharpening in Camera Assistant.
2. At 2:38, claimed adding details without proof that there's no that details is misleading.
3. Clearly using Expert RAW at 5:25, which Samsung told you is a processed. It has the REAL RAW in Pro mode! BTW, Expert RAW also has a lot of options to play with if you want.
4. Close up shot, personal preference, S23 U win for me.
5. At 9:30, iPhone seems a little smoother, but is it running by the same person at same time? Also iPhone footage blow out all the highlights on the concretes and beach.
I enjoy the way of your discussion style though. Hopefully the know better about your phone and compare it in a more control variable method way next time.
to really compare raw photos you should have taken them with pro mode in the main camera app and not in the expert raw - contrary to what the name suggests those "raw" files are processed and just saved as a dng file
I enjoyed this comparison WAY more than I enjoyed either one of these phones (neither of which I would recommend). Fun, detailed, and informative, as always.
The best camera is the one that’s in your hand. I’ve missed 3 shots that would have been notable from a photojournalistic standpoint. Cellphones are there when you need them!
Guess I'll be sticking with my Pixel 7 Pro. Love the zoom on the S23 though. Thanks for doing this video. Have you had a chance to look at the Xiaomi 13 Pro?
I missed you guys havent seen a video in a long time since I was using my old Nikon D3300 ... now I've got an iPhone 14 Pro Max and decided to look and educate myself by watching you quality videos !
ExpertRAW is more like a more flexible Auto mode. Pro mode allows you to take true RAW bayer snaps that not only are truer to what the sensor is capturing initially but also more flexible. I much prefer it to both ProRAW and ExpertRAW. It would be nice if you could compare those.
Loved this! How about the OnePlus 10 Pro? I've never had my hands on it, but there's a lot of hype about the camera in that phone with its Hasselblad optics. Image quality SHOULD out-perform both Apple and Samsung...one would think...
It doesn't have Hasselblad optics. In the best case it has Hasselblad image processing, in the worst case it only has Hasselblad logo
"200 mpx but you're an Apple person so I get that" lmao
OK, Chelsea may have had the funniest 30 seconds in TH-cam history. In the 6 minute frame she went from fries to televangelist 😅
I have this phone (s23ultra) and love it, but the post processing baked into raw shots seems very counterintuitive, you can watch the phone do it, your showed the actual raw file for a brief moment before the device rapes the image.
Great video! Loving the transparency… both have their advantages and disadvantages… it all boils down to preference… I love the s23 ultra but I’m too deep in the Apple ecosystem 🤷🏾♂️… I’ll lose way too much in terms of functionality and seamless workflow going beyond the phone itself by switching back to android. I’m not even tempted to switch back 😂… and I switched from android from just 2021… the ecosystem is that good and changed my perspective of these mobile devices being of more a tool than a toy, content consumption and communication device that also takes great pictures 🤷🏾♂️. But can’t wait to see what these phone companies do with these computational photography tricks in the future… they’re definitely not there yet, but fairly close to making your smartphone the camera you need for most situations… especially since they’re so small and portable.
lol...freezing and still have sense of humor..."my hair looks like a evangelicalist". very funny:)
Great test, but screw phones - I was amazed how you two guys are soooo adorable :) So much love in the air. I'm definitely subscribing & watching more often.
Great fun!!! Honestly, I don't believe any smart phone boasts an incredible camera... But they do ok, and they are always on you.. Just picked up the S23 ultra, moving up.... or maybe sideways from my S21 ultra. It's an improvement, but not as incredible as I hoped it would be... There are improvements, but the biggest improvements in my opinion are the low light shots. Everything else is subjective. I have also used the pixel 6 pro, and the i phone 13 pro max... I am not an i phone guy, but they still make a good product. All in all each phone has strengths and weaknesses, but none being leaps and bounds better or worse than the other. To me they are all portable cameras that fail to compare to the cameras that they wish they were. None the less, they are fun, and for day to day memories and practice, they are great.. Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed the banter and honesty.
Hi what microphones are you using? Thanks for the review!
I love my iPhone 14 pro max and the raw photos are really good and video is a clear winner for me..Overall I think they are the best cameras on a smartphone so far..
Gimbal legs and t-rex arms too funny ;-)
as an aspiring astrophotographer, I'm only interested in the camera that can boast the most mp in low light. The small sensor 200mp does not work in low light at all, so forget astro. Also the most precise manual focus. I know this is a lot to ask of a cell phone, but my next phone I will be aiming for that.
This video is hilarious. Love the banter and mean and almost personal comments 😂😂😂
S23 ultra owner with an Apple watch Ultra. See this all the time. Wonder how that works. Nice take on the comparison video.
Which phone has the least uncomfortable ergonomics for photos? I rather care more about that than even the picture quality - the current phone ergos are so awful that I avoid taking photos with my phone if I have any other option.
Vivo X90 has a 1 inch sensor. I would be curious how it performs next to these in the "post processing" debate. Better yet, how the RAW files hold up at higher ISOs.
Unless you are enlarging a print the size of a billboard then resolution doesn't matter. Most people look at images on a small screen.
What MagSafe field monitor attachment are you using? Seems like a great idea
I love this camera battle hahahaahahhah they shades being thrown everywhere hHahahahahah