Then she meets a guy who operates on the "next level" with shell companies, multiple s-corps, brokerage accounts, trusts etc... where he hides his money and he has like $100 in his checking account.
Dumb women ask for bank account. Smart women ask for cashflow, assets, etc… Dumb men take women caked with makeup to dinner. Smart men take them hiking, workout, or any activity where they can’t hide behind make up…
I don’t have shell companies but I am a net worth millionaire who literally doesn’t keep more than 1500 dollars in my checking account. All my money is either invested or in a money market fund lol
Probably better and more respectful to ask about credit score, but if she's so worried about finances, she should just select for guys with a high income job.
What happens if you meet a Super Smart Finance guy that only has $1500 in the actual bank account because he keeps everything is always invested? Does she assume he's lying and broke?
@nicholasmartinez6043 good for you man, I'm happy for you! I keep less then 1500 in my checking account because my paychecks are 1500 and I live paycheck to paycheck lmao
Lets start a toxic cycle: she asks for bank info, in response I ask for her weight, her sexual activity, and if there's history of mental illness in her family.
I vomited almost instantly. Yeah we want someone attractive just as they want to date someone who is attractive. They want to treat us like a bank, then act surprised if we view as a commodity. Yeah, I am looking someone attractive, but not someone who is looking to sell their beauty. If the relationship is completely commercialised then the only difference between her and a prostitute is that a prostitute is more honest & direct (yes she's direct in what she asks, but not necessarily what she gives in return for that, and when a prostitute pretends to love you, you know it is a show), so I actually respect prostitutes, but have no respect for women like this.
I think finances are important with a potential partner, but asking about it directly on the first date seems tacky in my opinion. It's also unnecessary as there are more subtle ways to figure out how someone is doing financially that come out naturally as you get to know someone. Someone's job, their spending habits on dates, housing situation, car situation, etc are all decent indicators as to where someone's at financially. Trying to figure out someone's financial value too directly, too early on in a relationship shows that they view the relationship transactionally in terms of how they can benefit from you. It's better to focus on learning the other person's values over time (to determine consistency) and whether they're a good match for you, and finances will naturally be part of that.
Exactly. I don't fault someone for including finances in their criteria for a potential partner but you can likely determine this by simply talking about their values and life plans.
So you want women to waste all her time and energy, only to end up finding out that he's not financially what she's looking for. Yet males walk around here judging women spot on (instantly ) solely by how they look, even rating them on a number scale like objects. The idiocracy, these males have got to go, for real
"She's exposed to a very small subset of people who tend to have a lot of options, and they explore those options." That's the nicest way of calling out scumbags I've ever seen
Perhaps they move on from certain people because they keep asking for their current bank balance and they can find a model that doesn't have nagscreens.
@@Fanta.... A "Model" 😂 then they should keep moving on and go find this"model" who doesn't care about money LMFAO. keep it pushing brokey because women are not going to choose to suffer if they have high standards, and high values. Also, you judge women based on their looks and if they look like a "model" even before the first date and you want to tell me that women shouldn't be asking for the bank account on the first date? Are you dumb? Sir, goodbye. You've been stalking me on all my comments. You gotta go 😂
Graf ham says: “what sets her apart from millions other girls that offer exactly the same but don’t ask for the bank account?” That’s all we need to hear in the video. That’s the essence.🤷♀️
😂 the fact that she's up front and doesn't like to waste her time. Do you think women generally go for broke males? Do you think once she finds out you broke that that's going to go well?? 💀
@@malimal4972 you're better off with a woman like her because she's straight up and up front. ALL women want and look for Males that have appropriate resources in the form of finances. Whether or not they tell you, it is still a minimum requirement that the male HAS to have. So one way or another woman WILL find out, and once they do find out..do you think that's going to go well for you if you broke or don't make a good income? The person who posted this idiotic comment asked the very STUPID question of what sets her apart from the rest. Well what sets her apart from the rest is that she's not going to WASTE time. It's not that she's looking for anything that's particularly different from what women with high standards and values look for. If a woman is high-value, high standards, and High boundaries she WILL look at your finances FIRST. Whether or not she says is directly is INCONSEQUENTIAL. So the woman in the video is actually helping YOU out 💀😂. The fact that you males continue to be delusional thinking that women will continue to accept you when you're broke or don't even make a minimum of 100k a year (especially with inflation the way that it is), is completely IDIOTIC.
@@IndependentPrettyGirlis a bank account does not tell the whole story. they could be a multi millionaire who doesn't like to keep a lot of money in theiir savings account. So she doesn't want poor people, and shes worried rich people are just going to sleep around because they have the [ick of whoever they want. This girl is never going to be happy.
Money isn't the only thing that equals power in a relationship. For example, I am the breadwinner in my relationship and I work outside the home. My husband takes on a huge amount of the parenting and planning for our special needs child (including tracking therapy appointments, coordinating his care, and keeping his teachers in the loop regarding any changes). If we need a little extra one month, he'll do food delivery while kiddo is in school. We both are involved in budgeting and maintaining our finances and our family life. We pick up the slack for each other when one of us is feeling low. We take care of our personal and emotional needs. We've been married for over 20 years, so i guess we're doing something right. If you're just looking at relationships from a money standpoint, you may miss out in finding your person.
I cannot believe women are actually asking these questions in first or even 3rd dates! My mother would be appalled! She raised me right. You know if a man will value you based on how he treats you and if he really falls for you he will work to be the best man he can be for you. And that is worth more than anything a regular man who just tolerates you has in his bank account!
Exactly. There are way more tactful ways to go about this, even if it’s a non-starter for her. What is the harm in context clues over a few dates over stating it bluntly in one? There are other things that should be of importance as well to where if he does tick the financials box but not the personality or chemistry boxes then it’s a no-go. So what’s the harm in starting with the latter first? I’m a woman who is also very hypergamous and I don’t get this logic.
It's a win to know right up front. Does she show her balance. She is the stupidest woman in the world if she thinks her "passing it off like a joke" works.
@@katarzynaperzylo218she makes a fortune for now wait until she starts aging like spoiled milk has blown her cash in a year 😂 she isn’t going to have anyone by then I should honestly invest in some cat food companies I can make a fortune off these delusional females
Then date someone ugly and old, who won't be an incubator, won't sacrifice career for offspring, will not take your last name, won't cook or clean, won't keep track of your social life and make sure you have a relationship with your own relatives. Men are soul diggers.
@@stevenporter863when it comes to women, guys are looking for beauty firstly and mostly. And it’s in your face , you don’t need to ask - are you beautiful? You see it. Man’s banking account is a hidden feature, women are trying to figure it out based on secondary things, such as car, paying on dates or profession. Well, in this case, woman just asks.
In my opinion if a woman asks this, it's just a question. A guy can choose to not answer. Men get so triggered by it. Everyone has preferences. Some men prefer to be with women with a low body count and some women want a rich man. To each their own. If a person isn't want another is looking for move on.
Bank accounts are only insured up to $250k…I don’t know why anyone in their right mind would have more than that in a bank account….Your bank account has nothing to do with net worth 🤦♂️
@@lionheart93 True, but most people don’t keep their whole entire net worth in bank accounts…Hard to determine net worth by bank account balances is the point I was making
She has a standard and that is she wants to be a gold digger. That is it. It is sad that a lot of people watch these folks and they adopt these disgusting standards.
@@IndependentPrettyGirlisthe hell what a stupid comment you have no idea how much he makes and that is your response? Do the world a favor don’t breed need to keep what sanity is left to the human race intact 🤨
Dating has become so superficial. Height, Money, Cars, mansions, Body... Loyalty, confidence, love, maturity, emotional stability aren't even talked about. Cheating is so normalised in media that we think that it "just happens"
She is a beautiful woman and deserves a man with lots of money (not just in investments and assets) to take care of her! There is nothing wrong with that and asking to see bank details is a good way to screen out dusty men.
The funniest part of that was the premise the relationship could have worked if the dude was cheating but was a breadwinner. That was the other option. I was with her until that selection.
Actually she was raised Mormon. If you listen to the podcast before she went bat sh** she talks about growing up in Utah and BYU and the mormon community. Not at all what you'd think.
Alimony and child support. Why would she care about a prenup at that point? She wants to marry a guy with a high enough status and net worth that having a kid with him will locked in a certain amount of money for life. Pretty simple.
Anyone who understands money and has a lot of it isn't going to keep much in their checking account. They will keep it in their brokerage account instead. Money not in the market is just being eaten away by inflation.
It’s funny, my wife will ask me why we have too much money in our bank account, not the opposite. Our money is always invested in various markets, T bills, real estate etc
Its the equivalent of asking a woman to stand on a scale on the first date. One will be defended as a preference, and the other vilified as being shallow
Women today need to watch the movie Coming to America... if a guy is trying to impress you with money he has less than you think and is getting poorer trying to impress you and other women by doing so.
The “provider” used to be someone physically strong able to defend and provide for their family. Now the provider is someone financially fit. You can’t survive in this world without money. That’s why some women who go after wealthy men are genuinely attracted and turned on by their wealth and status in their career. They’re not faking it - they are genuinely hot for the guy who can provide $$
@@exnihilonihilfit6316it his money the more important thing is ,is he generous and kind enough to share that money with family and not spend it on stupid selfish need? You know cheap wealthy men will torture their wives all the time don't give her money
Provider always used to be someone able to acquire financial resources. We defended as tribes, or when modern civilizations developed we had laws and organized army.
Someone asks me this on a first date, I’m gonna purposely tell them I have maybe $100. That’s not something you ask till 3rd,4th date. That’s a red flag to ask on the very first date. We need to see if there’s even a connection between us before we see if we have the same goals and make it a relationship. I believe in asking all these questions but not on the very 1st date.
Right. Definite red flag. If she doesn't know boundaries it is just an indication of what is to come and can't trust her to keep anything private. I would feel anything I say may be posted online.
agreed. what also makes it come across as disingenuous, is that she doesn't offer up information about her own finances first. not that this would make it right
Graham is right where people just stay home and keep their money. I work maybe 84 hrs a week avg and I'm too tired to go out really. I save my money that way. I spend on a gym, Jiu Jitsu and that's it. The rest goes to stocks and savings.
She’s good looking so she’s going to find herself in a perpetual cycle of dating dudes who talk a lot, have a lot of cash and want to get it on. Then when that fizzles out they’ll move onto the new lady. Finally, after years and many failed relationships, her looks have faded and she settles with the accountant dude and then wonders where he’s been for all of her life.
Im curios. Say im wealthy.. i show you my bank account and immediately follow it with: This is how much i have, but youre getting none of it. What does she do then?
@@TheGrahamStephanShow I would’ve never expected a comment back! Thank you very much Graham and I’m currently in Grafenwhör, Germany at my first duty station. Have a great one!!!🙏🏽🖤💪🏽💪🏽
She lays out her whole plan. Find a rich guy, get married, have kids, get divorced. She's not going to marry for money. She's going to divorce for it. She says she'll sign a pre-nup, but once kids are in the picture you can wipe your ass with it.
This girl is looking for connection in all of the wrong places. Her soulmate is making $120,000 a year as an Engineer driving a Toyota and living in a modest apartment right now. She will miss out on that because she is too concerned with logistics.
Women usually want men who can provide for our lifestyle, and that varies for every person. The same way men want a woman who is pretty, women want a guy who is doing better financially. Sure it limits the pool, but most women do not want to be the breadwinner!
@@dearestdarling9467 Do not speak for all men. I always wanted a woman with substance first and looks could follow. But even then, I would take a woman with average looks and a solid character/values over a vacuous pretty face any day. Father time is undefeated- those pretty looks will go downhill with age, add kids into the mix and its even worse. Meanwhile my earnings are growing. Hardly a fair deal methinks.
I rather see a women date a success guy than a loser to be fair. I mean it has to be a win/win not just about face shapes or eye colors it's a full relationship.
So basically she says cheat on my do whatever you want as long as I get money out of this I’m cool. Instead of trying to find a soulmate she’s trying to find an easy bag.
Just being honest, but she sounds like a for real gold digger and like she's not looking for genuine love, but instead a business prospect/purposel as far as marriage goes. To each their own, but truly sad that you have people like this who care about what you can give as far as money and not what you can give for who you are. This is one of many reasons why it's hard to come across genuine good hearted people. To many fake and shallow people
As a man, I would love to be a stay at home dad with a wife that's the breadmaker. But there is no way she wouldn't start resenting me after some time.
I believe that men and women are psychologically and physiologically different. There’s a reason men and women gravitate towards their traditional household roles. Therefore this can rarely work out.
@@PinkFZeppelinI will say this is a bit bioessentialist. Men and women are that psychologically different especially at birth. It’s based on a case on case basis where some men think like how a woman would think and vice versa.
TY for alerting me of a YTBR/podcaster that I never need to watch. I wrote this comment on another channel focused on financial planning. It is important to remember I have advice for those who strive to consider themselves "wealthy", from someone who is wealthy Far more important than whether others would consider you wealthy, is whether YOU consider yourself content with your life. Of course you can have both, wealth and contentment. But wealth without contentment, is actually worthless. Make sure that you aren't putting how others may "judge" you, ahead of what you want to strive for in life. This person, may feel the most important attribute for someone is their bank account, but there are so many more important things in a relatiionship. Such as how they value family, what they enjoy doing. What they feel is important in their lives. I feel sorry for those, like her. So shallow.
It’s not at all the “fatherless behaviour” that you’re talking about. It’s more that she’s seen on multiple occasions what being the more successful in a relationship as a woman has resulted in for her mother, and she does not want to mirror that for herself in her own personal relationships. But she’s obviously taken her concerns and blown them out of proportion, where she will not even give a guy who makes less than her a chance, and on the other hand is willing to put up with “rich men who cheat” who I’m sure she’s surrounded with lol
@@TheGonzina The problem was the men that her mother chose to marry, which was the problem, and somehow is not being held accountable. Women don't like to be held accountable.
I’m all for people having standards they want a partner to meet in a relationship. There’s nothing wrong with that. In this particular video, it’s more about the contradiction of her saying she wants a man that has a lot of money in the bank, yet is perfectly fine with being asked to sign a pre-nup. So which is it, are you good with being financially independent or do you need a partner who has a lot of money? LOL. In the end, she makes herself appear to be very materialistic.
She also said she wants kids, which kind of negates most prenups as you will always be responsible for your kids. And honestly, prenups are thrown out all the time, more and more so the longer you stay married or if the terms are very restrictive.
Someone hurt this poor girl. - Should be the thought before social media. This girl is just after attention and turn this into an income - Now days we live in social media.
What is crazy about this is Dave Ramsey, on one of his shows, told women and men they should ask a person about their finances early in dating. He says it will tell you if the man or woman is mature for a relationship. He did not say ask on the first date but he did not say when to ask. He only said to ask early and he never explained how to ask but he did say to pay attention to how the person uses their money. I wonder if Dave Ramsey is where she got that from and she put her entitled twist on it.
I doubt it lol. Cuz if she saw daves vids she'd know that only an idiot has so much money in their main bank acct. Most should be in a separate high yield savings or invested. Otherwise ur wasting money. But its possible...i just think its more likely shes used to being around douches who might be using her for her money and has become so sensitive about it she demands other men to have a lot so she feels secure. Plenty other theories, but only her future therapist will know the truth 😂
It’s not always gold diggers.I dated so many broke guys and I lost money . I just want a man with his own money .I have $50,000 of my own money saved and guy ask me to borrow money can never meet a guy with his own money
Definitely an insecurity thing- a true man will want his woman to be successful if she wants to be successful. It motivates him to also level up and be the best person he can be!
I'm 64 years old. When I was very young, there was a saying, "it's just as easy to fall in love and marry a rich guy as it is a poor guy". This has been an on going issue since the beginning of time. How a person male or female handles their money is very important for their future together. Dave Ramsey says money is the number one reason people get a divorce. No one gets married wanting a divorce if they love one another. Love unfortunately can't be the only reason to get married. I'm gorgeous and have a boyfriend 15 years younger than me. We've been together for 17 years. He is poor. I'm rich. I won't ever marry him. He's not marriage material. He's messy. I'm neat and clean. He's lazy. I like things done yesterday. But he keeps me calmed down also. Give and take where we're both content.💜
The only thing that I know of that costs roughly 800 dollars is those really excellent 12 course recreations of Nobel Prize dinners (you can order a specific year of the prize's banquet) in... Sweden, iirc. That's really all I'd spend a thousand bucks on dinner for, and it sure as hell wouldn't be for any date.
Apologies for the misinformation, I was speaking to someone who had been invited to a nobel prize banquet, and they must have remembered the price and number of courses wrong-- upon looking it up, there's a restaurant in stockholm that does indeed serve every meal since 1922, but the courses have been traditionally in between three and five, and the cost is roughly 200 dollars, much more reasonable.
So, if she wants to ask me about my bank account on the first date, I guess I'm free to ask if they swallow on the first date? Should they not, after being asked about my money, she should get left with the tab.
If my money is going to decide who i am as a man and partner then i dont want to date, marriage or any relationship with such money suckers. My money goes where its valuable. You ask me money then you are robber.
Awhile I don't think girls do this often, I do know many girls who will pay attention in the most minute details to what a man owns, what he's wearing, his job, etc, to get an idea. I know a girl in NYC who will exclusively only dates people from certain firms and "job titles" because she knows their salaries and bonuses. There's another girl I know in NYC who won't date someone who wears certain watch brands because it screams "fake rich".. In big cities, behavior like this is common
Going off of that, what would your reaction be? Is there a number you'd consider "too high" or "too low" and it'd be a turn-off? Or would it not matter?
It matters when you are outside analysing. When you are in a true relationship. You want what's best for you as a couple or family. Not what's best for you as individuals together.
I defently prefer an accomplished woman, It doesnt matter if she is big successful, bigger than me or just accomplished in her field, if she is smart and we love each other that's perfect
I have a $170K savings plus a 401k depleted to $200K of money. Do you think it is better to buy a house or just rent. My retirement plans seem to be out the window. I'm thinking of getting professional help.
With everything going on, consider financial planning, … that is okay. You can get your money to work for you. but I would say delay retirement a little
And what if that is all you have, even with SS you may not have enough to retire with. If you opt to work with a financial adviser, Dyor, make sure they are certified from AARP or FINRA.
It’s a good idea to look for a fiduciary who has a legal obligation to work in your best interest and can’t recommend products or services just because they’ll receive a financial kickback for doing so. I and my spouse work with a retirement planner, Monica Mary Strigle we met in NY, learnt about Monica from Danielle Dimartino Booth in an interview.
We have been up by 74% precisely in the past year She rebalanced again when the year began, we still hold cash and are cautious with how much we let into the market at this point.
This is financial advice and I never give financial advice: NEVER LEAVE DURING THE BEAR. If you don't want to invest....learn. If you don't want to learn...build. If you don't want to build observe. DO SOMETHING...
She is not dating random guys in her DM's at this level. They use the exclusive Raya celeb dating app or by referral/introduction. Part of this is just work for clips as an influencer.
If you have more than 50 grand in the bank you are a dipstick , I would rather see their investment portfolio. Why would you have a bunch of money in the bank instead of having it work for you rather than 0.01% interest
@@swestphal117 yeah I had 250,000 in there after I sold my house (I made a killing ) so I paid off my new house and had 250k left over . It literally drove me nuts having it there . I had to put it somewhere to start making money . I keep about 40k in there for emergencies , and I’m worth a lot on paper . I’m not liquid but I have so much access to money Money market , hi yields , investing margin cards , etc I just don’t see a need for it , especially with multiple rental properties that I collect 30k in rent a month . I feel like if you have millions in account that is only insured for 250k you are terrible with money .
The problem is when people put it out there as though its normal and attempt to mainstream it. Eventually people will become numb to it and it will be normalized. This just continues to lead to the degregation of the family and the country as a whole. It also normalizes reducing men down to just what they can give you. This has to ridiculed to fight back against it.
Tough world if you are only looking for people with more than you since many guys with more won't care how much she has, so she has to compete with every other young attractive girl.
The mans character is the most important. Being with a rich man who cheats, get std (she could become extremely uncomfortable with example treatment resistant Gonoreah exist out there), overdose from drugs after hard partying and possibly die from it might be a high emotional price.
I'm a 50+ lesbian and had basic criteria when much younger. The chick had to have a job, car and own place. When I started making bank, I added credit score. I got tired of dating broke azzes and being a sugar momma.
The thing is she probably DIDN'T ask the guys for their bank balance, instead she probably thourght oh this will get clicks and eyeballs and generate some outrage.
Then she meets a guy who operates on the "next level" with shell companies, multiple s-corps, brokerage accounts, trusts etc... where he hides his money and he has like $100 in his checking account.
Dumb women ask for bank account. Smart women ask for cashflow, assets, etc… Dumb men take women caked with makeup to dinner. Smart men take them hiking, workout, or any activity where they can’t hide behind make up…
I don’t have shell companies but I am a net worth millionaire who literally doesn’t keep more than 1500 dollars in my checking account. All my money is either invested or in a money market fund lol
Probably better and more respectful to ask about credit score, but if she's so worried about finances, she should just select for guys with a high income job.
What happens if you meet a Super Smart Finance guy that only has $1500 in the actual bank account because he keeps everything is always invested? Does she assume he's lying and broke?
@nicholasmartinez6043 good for you man, I'm happy for you! I keep less then 1500 in my checking account because my paychecks are 1500 and I live paycheck to paycheck lmao
Lets start a toxic cycle: she asks for bank info, in response I ask for her weight, her sexual activity, and if there's history of mental illness in her family.
Also, no tattoos no matter how small.
the obvious answer is very high. -_-'
She is definitely a walking red flag. With those expectations she’s gonna have a really hard time keeping a guy in her life.
I vomited almost instantly. Yeah we want someone attractive just as they want to date someone who is attractive. They want to treat us like a bank, then act surprised if we view as a commodity. Yeah, I am looking someone attractive, but not someone who is looking to sell their beauty. If the relationship is completely commercialised then the only difference between her and a prostitute is that a prostitute is more honest & direct (yes she's direct in what she asks, but not necessarily what she gives in return for that, and when a prostitute pretends to love you, you know it is a show), so I actually respect prostitutes, but have no respect for women like this.
@@alastairhewitt380 yeah I’ve never really taken women like this seriously and never really will
She has a ticking clock. She said it already. Younger model. 😂
I love how Graham brings a level of class to the conversation
Totally agree
Very classy guy
At least she lays her red flags out on the first date.
I think finances are important with a potential partner, but asking about it directly on the first date seems tacky in my opinion. It's also unnecessary as there are more subtle ways to figure out how someone is doing financially that come out naturally as you get to know someone. Someone's job, their spending habits on dates, housing situation, car situation, etc are all decent indicators as to where someone's at financially.
Trying to figure out someone's financial value too directly, too early on in a relationship shows that they view the relationship transactionally in terms of how they can benefit from you. It's better to focus on learning the other person's values over time (to determine consistency) and whether they're a good match for you, and finances will naturally be part of that.
Spot on
Exactly. I don't fault someone for including finances in their criteria for a potential partner but you can likely determine this by simply talking about their values and life plans.
Yeah. I tend to agree. A first date is too soon, but finances are a major cause of divorce. You should be in agreement on it.
So you want women to waste all her time and energy, only to end up finding out that he's not financially what she's looking for. Yet males walk around here judging women spot on (instantly ) solely by how they look, even rating them on a number scale like objects. The idiocracy, these males have got to go, for real
Perfectly said! i agree!
"She's exposed to a very small subset of people who tend to have a lot of options, and they explore those options." That's the nicest way of calling out scumbags I've ever seen
How are they scumbags? I would say the people you date is a reflection of who you are
Ooop you sound like a brokey 😂
Perhaps they move on from certain people because they keep asking for their current bank balance and they can find a model that doesn't have nagscreens.
@@Fanta.... A "Model" 😂 then they should keep moving on and go find this"model" who doesn't care about money LMFAO. keep it pushing brokey because women are not going to choose to suffer if they have high standards, and high values. Also, you judge women based on their looks and if they look like a "model" even before the first date and you want to tell me that women shouldn't be asking for the bank account on the first date? Are you dumb? Sir, goodbye. You've been stalking me on all my comments. You gotta go 😂
@jasondude7566 fair enough I guess. I kinda get ya. Just not my cup of tea
Graf ham says: “what sets her apart from millions other girls that offer exactly the same but don’t ask for the bank account?” That’s all we need to hear in the video. That’s the essence.🤷♀️
😂 the fact that she's up front and doesn't like to waste her time. Do you think women generally go for broke males? Do you think once she finds out you broke that that's going to go well?? 💀
@@IndependentPrettyGirliswhat is your point ? just a word salad at this point you spewing
@@malimal4972 you're better off with a woman like her because she's straight up and up front. ALL women want and look for Males that have appropriate resources in the form of finances. Whether or not they tell you, it is still a minimum requirement that the male HAS to have. So one way or another woman WILL find out, and once they do find out..do you think that's going to go well for you if you broke or don't make a good income? The person who posted this idiotic comment asked the very STUPID question of what sets her apart from the rest. Well what sets her apart from the rest is that she's not going to WASTE time. It's not that she's looking for anything that's particularly different from what women with high standards and values look for. If a woman is high-value, high standards, and High boundaries she WILL look at your finances FIRST. Whether or not she says is directly is INCONSEQUENTIAL. So the woman in the video is actually helping YOU out 💀😂. The fact that you males continue to be delusional thinking that women will continue to accept you when you're broke or don't even make a minimum of 100k a year (especially with inflation the way that it is), is completely IDIOTIC.
@@IndependentPrettyGirlis a bank account does not tell the whole story. they could be a multi millionaire who doesn't like to keep a lot of money in theiir savings account. So she doesn't want poor people, and shes worried rich people are just going to sleep around because they have the [ick of whoever they want. This girl is never going to be happy.
@@IndependentPrettyGirlisalways nice to know when someone sees you as an ATM machine right
Money isn't the only thing that equals power in a relationship. For example, I am the breadwinner in my relationship and I work outside the home. My husband takes on a huge amount of the parenting and planning for our special needs child (including tracking therapy appointments, coordinating his care, and keeping his teachers in the loop regarding any changes). If we need a little extra one month, he'll do food delivery while kiddo is in school. We both are involved in budgeting and maintaining our finances and our family life. We pick up the slack for each other when one of us is feeling low. We take care of our personal and emotional needs. We've been married for over 20 years, so i guess we're doing something right.
If you're just looking at relationships from a money standpoint, you may miss out in finding your person.
If a girl says she only dates rich guys, tell her you only date virgins, watch how quickly she gets up and leaves, facts, lol.
“60k a year THATS stability” this is why I love graham
I cannot believe women are actually asking these questions in first or even 3rd dates! My mother would be appalled! She raised me right. You know if a man will value you based on how he treats you and if he really falls for you he will work to be the best man he can be for you. And that is worth more than anything a regular man who just tolerates you has in his bank account!
It's a no win for the guy. Either he doesn't have enough, or he does and he knows what she's all about.
Exactly. There are way more tactful ways to go about this, even if it’s a non-starter for her. What is the harm in context clues over a few dates over stating it bluntly in one? There are other things that should be of importance as well to where if he does tick the financials box but not the personality or chemistry boxes then it’s a no-go. So what’s the harm in starting with the latter first? I’m a woman who is also very hypergamous and I don’t get this logic.
Either 'None of your business. We just met' or 'When is your period and what is your body count? '
@@dearestdarling9467we're not here to baby males and their fragile non-existent ego
It's a win to know right up front.
Does she show her balance.
She is the stupidest woman in the world if she thinks her "passing it off like a joke" works.
Once a gold digger, always a gold digger! :-)
She makes a fortune. Nothing wrong with wanting to date someone on a similar level in my opinion
@@katarzynaperzylo218she makes a fortune for now wait until she starts aging like spoiled milk has blown her cash in a year 😂 she isn’t going to have anyone by then I should honestly invest in some cat food companies I can make a fortune off these delusional females
Then date someone ugly and old, who won't be an incubator, won't sacrifice career for offspring, will not take your last name, won't cook or clean, won't keep track of your social life and make sure you have a relationship with your own relatives.
Men are soul diggers.
a way more effective (and less harsh-sounding question) is "How much debt do you have?" Way more telling info than a checking account statement!
that also doesn't tell the full story, if these debts have a low interest rate
pure nuance and a holistic take, honestly so refreshing to hear Graham speak on things!
Honestly I rather learn this on the first date so I know not to try for a second date. Saves a lot of time 😂
Then ask for her body count and get that too out of the way. 😂
Oh don't worry there won't be a second date as that says, "Gold digger, don't walk run away fast".
@@stevenporter863when it comes to women, guys are looking for beauty firstly and mostly. And it’s in your face , you don’t need to ask - are you beautiful? You see it. Man’s banking account is a hidden feature, women are trying to figure it out based on secondary things, such as car, paying on dates or profession. Well, in this case, woman just asks.
@@vg7985 Timing buddy. It was a first date, not an IRS audit.
In my opinion if a woman asks this, it's just a question. A guy can choose to not answer. Men get so triggered by it. Everyone has preferences. Some men prefer to be with women with a low body count and some women want a rich man. To each their own. If a person isn't want another is looking for move on.
Bank accounts are only insured up to $250k…I don’t know why anyone in their right mind would have more than that in a bank account….Your bank account has nothing to do with net worth 🤦♂️
mulitple accounts
@@lionheart93 True, but most people don’t keep their whole entire net worth in bank accounts…Hard to determine net worth by bank account balances is the point I was making
rich people use different banks that have more than insurance for 250k
@@gliver2549 No they don’t. It’s invested.
I'd want first dates to present recent testresults for STDs. At least that would be considerably more relevant and useful.
She has a standard and that is she wants to be a gold digger. That is it. It is sad that a lot of people watch these folks and they adopt these disgusting standards.
Someone else's standards doesn’t have to be yours tho.
Oh ok, keep being broke then 😂💀
@@IndependentPrettyGirlisthe hell what a stupid comment you have no idea how much he makes and that is your response? Do the world a favor don’t breed need to keep what sanity is left to the human race intact 🤨
@@IndependentPrettyGirlis Found the incel
@@IndependentPrettyGirlis It's funny how you're proud to be an incel.
If a gal asked me that on a first date, the date is over. Why would anyone want to be with this type of shallow, narcissistic personality??
So you can put it in their backside and brag about it later because that's all she's good for
Poor reply
Like usual, she's a good looking girl who's probably not a bad person. But she's got to knock the delusional expectations.
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@@TheGrahamStephanShow Hello!
Doesn't matter how good looking she is. It is rude!
doesn't that make her bad
Maybe a better way of having the finances conversation is like what are your goals and how are you working toward them?
Dating has become so superficial. Height, Money, Cars, mansions, Body...
Loyalty, confidence, love, maturity, emotional stability aren't even talked about.
Cheating is so normalised in media that we think that it "just happens"
The people in this world normalise crazy behaviour as normal!
She is a beautiful woman and deserves a man with lots of money (not just in investments and assets) to take care of her! There is nothing wrong with that and asking to see bank details is a good way to screen out dusty men.
Her Mom married “a few times”…pretty clear where her way of life was learned
The funniest part of that was the premise the relationship could have worked if the dude was cheating but was a breadwinner. That was the other option.
I was with her until that selection.
Actually she was raised Mormon. If you listen to the podcast before she went bat sh** she talks about growing up in Utah and BYU and the mormon community. Not at all what you'd think.
FACTS 👌!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alimony and child support. Why would she care about a prenup at that point? She wants to marry a guy with a high enough status and net worth that having a kid with him will locked in a certain amount of money for life. Pretty simple.
Anyone who understands money and has a lot of it isn't going to keep much in their checking account. They will keep it in their brokerage account instead. Money not in the market is just being eaten away by inflation.
Exactly. I think it is absolutely rude that very very early - but the question should be net worth otherwise she will get a lot of $0 to $500.
It’s funny, my wife will ask me why we have too much money in our bank account, not the opposite. Our money is always invested in various markets, T bills, real estate etc
😂maybe she was worrying rather you did something illegal or not.
Its the equivalent of asking a woman to stand on a scale on the first date. One will be defended as a preference, and the other vilified as being shallow
great idea for the ice coffee hour podcast make guest show their bank account to you guys
Hahah
Women today need to watch the movie Coming to America... if a guy is trying to impress you with money he has less than you think and is getting poorer trying to impress you and other women by doing so.
The “provider” used to be someone physically strong able to defend and provide for their family. Now the provider is someone financially fit. You can’t survive in this world without money. That’s why some women who go after wealthy men are genuinely attracted and turned on by their wealth and status in their career. They’re not faking it - they are genuinely hot for the guy who can provide $$
That's what these ghetto dwellers don't get.
Also, it's not the MONEY she wants. It's the MAN who can make money and be successful she wants.
@@exnihilonihilfit6316it his money the more important thing is ,is he generous and kind enough to share that money with family and not spend it on stupid selfish need? You know cheap wealthy men will torture their wives all the time don't give her money
Provider always used to be someone able to acquire financial resources. We defended as tribes, or when modern civilizations developed we had laws and organized army.
Love how Graham, has come from very opiniated point of view, to a more relaxed.
And he acknowleging that is awesome
Someone asks me this on a first date, I’m gonna purposely tell them I have maybe $100. That’s not something you ask till 3rd,4th date. That’s a red flag to ask on the very first date. We need to see if there’s even a connection between us before we see if we have the same goals and make it a relationship. I believe in asking all these questions but not on the very 1st date.
Right. Definite red flag. If she doesn't know boundaries it is just an indication of what is to come and can't trust her to keep anything private. I would feel anything I say may be posted online.
agreed. what also makes it come across as disingenuous, is that she doesn't offer up information about her own finances first. not that this would make it right
I gotta see a Sofia on the iced coffee hour 🎉😂
Graham is right where people just stay home and keep their money. I work maybe 84 hrs a week avg and I'm too tired to go out really. I save my money that way. I spend on a gym, Jiu Jitsu and that's it. The rest goes to stocks and savings.
Graham your explanation is definitely on point! Also Jake’s face was priceless.
guys dont say how much you have because some people think of it as how much they can get
She’s good looking so she’s going to find herself in a perpetual cycle of dating dudes who talk a lot, have a lot of cash and want to get it on. Then when that fizzles out they’ll move onto the new lady. Finally, after years and many failed relationships, her looks have faded and she settles with the accountant dude and then wonders where he’s been for all of her life.
I would get up and leave as the date is officially over. I dont need any gold diggers in my life.
imagine a man asking a women "how much beauty you have left"
Men do this everday buy asking how old you or body counts / divorce with kids enz enz
@@reganwolf4405 body counts, previous marriages and kids have nothing to do with beauty
Im curios.
Say im wealthy.. i show you my bank account and immediately follow it with:
This is how much i have, but youre getting none of it.
What does she do then?
What’s up Graham! I’m watching your videos before I ship out to Germany tomorrow and head to my first duty station. U.S. Army, HOOAH🤙🏽🙏🏽
Thank you for your service!! 🙏🏻
@@TheGrahamStephanShow I would’ve never expected a comment back! Thank you very much Graham and I’m currently in Grafenwhör, Germany at my first duty station. Have a great one!!!🙏🏽🖤💪🏽💪🏽
She lays out her whole plan. Find a rich guy, get married, have kids, get divorced. She's not going to marry for money. She's going to divorce for it. She says she'll sign a pre-nup, but once kids are in the picture you can wipe your ass with it.
So she wants money in case she gets cheated on and can be taken care of if they divorce, but would sign a pre-nup...logic makes no sense.
exactly
This girl is looking for connection in all of the wrong places.
Her soulmate is making $120,000 a year as an Engineer driving a Toyota and living in a modest apartment right now. She will miss out on that because she is too concerned with logistics.
Women usually want men who can provide for our lifestyle, and that varies for every person. The same way men want a woman who is pretty, women want a guy who is doing better financially. Sure it limits the pool, but most women do not want to be the breadwinner!
@@dearestdarling9467 Do not speak for all men. I always wanted a woman with substance first and looks could follow. But even then, I would take a woman with average looks and a solid character/values over a vacuous pretty face any day. Father time is undefeated- those pretty looks will go downhill with age, add kids into the mix and its even worse. Meanwhile my earnings are growing. Hardly a fair deal methinks.
I rather see a women date a success guy than a loser to be fair. I mean it has to be a win/win not just about face shapes or eye colors it's a full relationship.
Listen, she is young, naive and immature. Give her twenty more years as a single woman and re-ask these questions on finances.
So basically she says cheat on my do whatever you want as long as I get money out of this I’m cool. Instead of trying to find a soulmate she’s trying to find an easy bag.
Don't make any sense, she's already rich
Just being honest, but she sounds like a for real gold digger and like she's not looking for genuine love, but instead a business prospect/purposel as far as marriage goes. To each their own, but truly sad that you have people like this who care about what you can give as far as money and not what you can give for who you are. This is one of many reasons why it's hard to come across genuine good hearted people. To many fake and shallow people
Guys who are flashy materialistic will show their bank account. Setting up for divorce.
As a man, I would love to be a stay at home dad with a wife that's the breadmaker. But there is no way she wouldn't start resenting me after some time.
Or u would start resenting her.. just gotta find the right person
@@nomanejane5766 I would resent her for paying all the bills n taking care of the expenses?
I believe that men and women are psychologically and physiologically different. There’s a reason men and women gravitate towards their traditional household roles. Therefore this can rarely work out.
@@PinkFZeppelinI will say this is a bit bioessentialist. Men and women are that psychologically different especially at birth. It’s based on a case on case basis where some men think like how a woman would think and vice versa.
My friend is the stay at home dad and it seems to work well for them, you never know your sugar mama could be just round the corner lads 😂😂
I didn't tell my wife how much I earned till I got married and she didn't ask me either. That's one of the reasons why I knew she was the one.
I would not even show my brother or best friend my bank account details
TY for alerting me of a YTBR/podcaster that I never need to watch. I wrote this comment on another channel focused on financial planning. It is important to remember
I have advice for those who strive to consider themselves "wealthy", from someone who is wealthy Far more important than whether others would consider you wealthy, is whether YOU consider yourself content with your life. Of course you can have both, wealth and contentment. But wealth without contentment, is actually worthless. Make sure that you aren't putting how others may "judge" you, ahead of what you want to strive for in life.
This person, may feel the most important attribute for someone is their bank account, but there are so many more important things in a relatiionship. Such as how they value family, what they enjoy doing. What they feel is important in their lives. I feel sorry for those, like her. So shallow.
By asking early she is also telling them what’s important to her, that could be helpful for him to know her true colors early too.
the moment she talked about her mother, everything made sense. fatherless behavior. i feel sorry for every man in the future who has to deal with her
Many such cases.
It’s not at all the “fatherless behaviour” that you’re talking about. It’s more that she’s seen on multiple occasions what being the more successful in a relationship as a woman has resulted in for her mother, and she does not want to mirror that for herself in her own personal relationships. But she’s obviously taken her concerns and blown them out of proportion, where she will not even give a guy who makes less than her a chance, and on the other hand is willing to put up with “rich men who cheat” who I’m sure she’s surrounded with lol
@@TheGonzina The problem was the men that her mother chose to marry, which was the problem, and somehow is not being held accountable. Women don't like to be held accountable.
Me on a first date: “So, do you know who Dave Ramsey is?”
Her: "no"
Us: *gets up and leaves*
I’m all for people having standards they want a partner to meet in a relationship. There’s nothing wrong with that. In this particular video, it’s more about the contradiction of her saying she wants a man that has a lot of money in the bank, yet is perfectly fine with being asked to sign a pre-nup. So which is it, are you good with being financially independent or do you need a partner who has a lot of money? LOL. In the end, she makes herself appear to be very materialistic.
The prenup is not contradictory, it's designed to protect both.
... uh how is that a contradiction??
She wants a dude with money so that he’s not insecure tho. So the prenup isn’t really important
She also said she wants kids, which kind of negates most prenups as you will always be responsible for your kids. And honestly, prenups are thrown out all the time, more and more so the longer you stay married or if the terms are very restrictive.
The prenup protects her money too
Even Logan seems normal in this interview 😂
Someone hurt this poor girl. - Should be the thought before social media.
This girl is just after attention and turn this into an income - Now days we live in social media.
Ima just leave it as this. Dated a dude with 30 mil and yet she’s still single. Gotta be a reason🤷♂️
What is crazy about this is Dave Ramsey, on one of his shows, told women and men they should ask a person about their finances early in dating. He says it will tell you if the man or woman is mature for a relationship. He did not say ask on the first date but he did not say when to ask. He only said to ask early and he never explained how to ask but he did say to pay attention to how the person uses their money. I wonder if Dave Ramsey is where she got that from and she put her entitled twist on it.
I doubt it lol. Cuz if she saw daves vids she'd know that only an idiot has so much money in their main bank acct. Most should be in a separate high yield savings or invested. Otherwise ur wasting money.
But its possible...i just think its more likely shes used to being around douches who might be using her for her money and has become so sensitive about it she demands other men to have a lot so she feels secure.
Plenty other theories, but only her future therapist will know the truth 😂
@@VioletIsBulletproof fun fact you can have so much money you don’t need to invest it all
@@VioletIsBulletproof Very true and this has been seen in a lot of other people prior to Dave Ramsey saying that lol
Early, as in when things are headed towards serious. Not the first date. 🤦
@@stevenporter863 headed toward serious is not early. If that becomes a thought, you are already heavily invested emotionally.
It’s not always gold diggers.I dated so many broke guys and I lost money . I just want a man with his own money .I have $50,000 of my own money saved and guy ask me to borrow money can never meet a guy with his own money
Definitely an insecurity thing- a true man will want his woman to be successful if she wants to be successful. It motivates him to also level up and be the best person he can be!
I'm 64 years old. When I was very young, there was a saying, "it's just as easy to fall in love and marry a rich guy as it is a poor guy". This has been an on going issue since the beginning of time. How a person male or female handles their money is very important for their future together. Dave Ramsey says money is the number one reason people get a divorce. No one gets married wanting a divorce if they love one another. Love unfortunately can't be the only reason to get married. I'm gorgeous and have a boyfriend 15 years younger than me. We've been together for 17 years. He is poor. I'm rich. I won't ever marry him. He's not marriage material. He's messy. I'm neat and clean. He's lazy. I like things done yesterday. But he keeps me calmed down also. Give and take where we're both content.💜
You might as well be married to him if you've been together for that long 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Seems to be a mass of contradictions in there. Maybe you just wanted to say you're rich & gorgeous? 😂🤣😅
I think she’s desperate to get some of the money that she lost on screwing herself out of Call Her Daddy.
Why is someone spending $1000 on dinner? What are they eating?
The only thing that I know of that costs roughly 800 dollars is those really excellent 12 course recreations of Nobel Prize dinners (you can order a specific year of the prize's banquet) in... Sweden, iirc. That's really all I'd spend a thousand bucks on dinner for, and it sure as hell wouldn't be for any date.
Apologies for the misinformation, I was speaking to someone who had been invited to a nobel prize banquet, and they must have remembered the price and number of courses wrong-- upon looking it up, there's a restaurant in stockholm that does indeed serve every meal since 1922, but the courses have been traditionally in between three and five, and the cost is roughly 200 dollars, much more reasonable.
So, if she wants to ask me about my bank account on the first date, I guess I'm free to ask if they swallow on the first date? Should they not, after being asked about my money, she should get left with the tab.
Then would it be fair to ask about her "body count" on a first date?
Oh no! Women can’t be subjected to those questions, but it’s fine if she asks you about your net worth. They aren’t held to the same standards.
This lady is at least 69
I agree with her with asking how much money they have. I think she's not looking to support somebody financially.
If my money is going to decide who i am as a man and partner then i dont want to date, marriage or any relationship with such money suckers. My money goes where its valuable. You ask me money then you are robber.
Hi Graham, I love your show!
Awhile I don't think girls do this often, I do know many girls who will pay attention in the most minute details to what a man owns, what he's wearing, his job, etc, to get an idea. I know a girl in NYC who will exclusively only dates people from certain firms and "job titles" because she knows their salaries and bonuses. There's another girl I know in NYC who won't date someone who wears certain watch brands because it screams "fake rich".. In big cities, behavior like this is common
what does she bring to the table? 50 body counts? being combative? 😂😂😂
We've all known she's a gold digger since she blew up Call Me Daddy and is not only worth a fraction of what Alexandra Cooper is worth.
My answer to anyone who asks how much money do I make, is none of your business. I am not into the gold diggers.
To be fair if a girl asked how much i made in first date i would ask her body count
Going off of that, what would your reaction be? Is there a number you'd consider "too high" or "too low" and it'd be a turn-off? Or would it not matter?
Who the hell keeps large sums of money in a bank account? Do they not watch the @Graham Stephan channel?
She's pretty but she doesn't respect you, worth?
Not pretty enough for that attitude
I would give her d…k and leave her for someone younger eventually.
Broad is a 3/10 at best, seen way better bi**ches
It matters when you are outside analysing. When you are in a true relationship. You want what's best for you as a couple or family. Not what's best for you as individuals together.
I defently prefer an accomplished woman, It doesnt matter if she is big successful, bigger than me or just accomplished in her field, if she is smart and we love each other that's perfect
If she wants to ask for the bank account, I think it is fair the guy can also ask for her credit report in exchange.
And here I was dating my future husband for his character. 🤷🏻♀️
I have a $170K savings plus a 401k depleted to $200K of money. Do you think it is better to buy a house or just rent. My retirement plans seem to be out the window. I'm thinking of getting professional help.
With everything going on, consider financial planning, … that is okay. You can get your money to work for you. but I would say delay retirement a little
And what if that is all you have, even with SS you may not have enough to retire with. If you opt to work with a financial adviser, Dyor, make sure they are certified from AARP or FINRA.
It’s a good idea to look for a fiduciary who has a legal obligation to work in your best interest and can’t recommend products or services just because they’ll receive a financial kickback for doing so. I and my spouse work with a retirement planner, Monica Mary Strigle we met in NY, learnt about Monica from Danielle Dimartino Booth in an interview.
We have been up by 74% precisely in the past year She rebalanced again when the year began, we still hold cash and are cautious with how much we let into the market at this point.
This is financial advice and I never give financial advice: NEVER LEAVE DURING THE BEAR. If you don't want to invest....learn. If you don't want to learn...build. If you don't want to build observe. DO SOMETHING...
She is not dating random guys in her DM's at this level. They use the exclusive Raya celeb dating app or by referral/introduction. Part of this is just work for clips as an influencer.
If you have more than 50 grand in the bank you are a dipstick , I would rather see their investment portfolio.
Why would you have a bunch of money in the bank instead of having it work for you rather than 0.01% interest
She's an idiot looking for other idiots
Agreed, unless it is there for a specific reason, such as a down payment for a house, etc.
Although that should be in a high yield savings account
@@swestphal117 yeah I had 250,000 in there after I sold my house (I made a killing ) so I paid off my new house and had 250k left over .
It literally drove me nuts having it there .
I had to put it somewhere to start making money .
I keep about 40k in there for emergencies , and I’m worth a lot on paper .
I’m not liquid but I have so much access to money
Money market , hi yields , investing margin cards , etc
I just don’t see a need for it , especially with multiple rental properties that I collect 30k in rent a month .
I feel like if you have millions in account that is only insured for 250k you are terrible with money .
The problem is when people put it out there as though its normal and attempt to mainstream it. Eventually people will become numb to it and it will be normalized. This just continues to lead to the degregation of the family and the country as a whole. It also normalizes reducing men down to just what they can give you. This has to ridiculed to fight back against it.
Someone who’s actually wealthy won’t have that much money in a bank. It’ll be in productive assets.
This woman's behavior is rude, entitled, atrocious, and should be called out and shamed.
She isnt worth the time or effort. Clutching your pearls just gives her the attention she wants.
There’s a saying: marry rich and marry well. Both matter, imo.
I hope Sofia recognises that.
Sofía Franklin: “I’m genuinely a good person.” also Sofia Franklin: “I’ve cheated on all my exes, but I’m not into doing that anymore.”
It sounds like she feels that the men she dates are going to objectify her so she’s doing it back
It sounds like she needs to look for better men.
It's a turnoff that she thinks men only want her for her looks.
Tough world if you are only looking for people with more than you since many guys with more won't care how much she has, so she has to compete with every other young attractive girl.
The mans character is the most important. Being with a rich man who cheats, get std (she could become extremely uncomfortable with example treatment resistant Gonoreah exist out there), overdose from drugs after hard partying and possibly die from it might be a high emotional price.
And a rich man could be horrible and cheap generous and kind man is the best who share his resources for his family to have comfortable life
I'm a 50+ lesbian and had basic criteria when much younger. The chick had to have a job, car and own place. When I started making bank, I added credit score. I got tired of dating broke azzes and being a sugar momma.
The guys she is trying to weed out are the only guys that would take her and put a ring on it.
The thing is she probably DIDN'T ask the guys for their bank balance, instead she probably thourght oh this will get clicks and eyeballs and generate some outrage.
That's what I'm thinking as well