I liked this clip this is really good and relaxing and frees human from a lot of stresses and other garbage. Sitting in the Nature with friends and listening nice nostalgic song, beautiful. --Origin of all musical instruments mentioned below is Dombira. It is simple instrument. As of requirements it was customized added some extra stings, changed size and shape etc. Remnants found in Akkad and Sumer same with those of Syberia. Shamans might have some connections.
@kabuklu Not only very similar. The tanbur is an ancient sumerian lute, which only survived in the kurdish Ahl-i Haq group in the kurdish region of iran. The Ahl-i Haq culture therfore shares the similarities with Alevism that you talked about, a very good conclusion of yours!
This is the type of thing I do with my band Hashshashin: hashshashin.bandcamp.com/album/nihsahshsah I'm going to see if I can find a Tanbur when I travel to Tajikistan later in the year.
اي عاشقان اي عاشقان من خاك را گوهر كنم/ وي مطربان اي مطربان دف شما پر زر كنم/ اي تشنگان اي تشنگان امروز سقايي كنم/ وين خاكدان خشك را جنت كنم كوثر كنم/ من غصه را شادي كنم گمراه را هادي كنم/ من گرگ را يوسف كنم من زهر را شكر كنم/ ياهو يا عالي نژاد تو زنده اي
This looks like it's Seyed Khalil Alinezhad, a famous Kurdish tanbur player and singer. He's associated with Yarsani groups, so perhaps these are Yarsani musicians.
@consunzione "Historians cannot agree about the exact origins of the Kurdish/Persian tanbur, however the first documentation of its existence comes from ancient Babylon"
+cody modes musighi va ziabaie az har ja nashat begire khobe agar shoma ba zaher o esme ali moshkel dari az kotah nazarie shomast khalil alinejad chon baghi honarmandan rohesh ra bar saz boron mirizkht..in ham az bozorgie on adam miad k shoma natavani az didanash...Alate mobarket b eslam ya har idelogy k khasi foro kon manm vasam mohem nis..ama in rahe shoma mese on kotaah nazarni k az esme khlalil faghat hamin zavaher mibininano adasho dar miarn b foro bordam daste khare shoma be lajan mianjamad... omidavaram ziad daste khar dar lajan nakonid..
@pogoism1 I will say more... there is no medieval of late iconography about this instrument... This doesn't mean that it's not very old, we know that it has been played by Yaresan for nearly 1000 years, so it has a previous long history. But maybe what we hear is an instrument very ancient, like saz, dotar, dombra ecc... played with a technic invented during 900 years by Ahl e Haq for their spiritual intents. The most beautiful composition have not more than 300 years.
@pogoism1 I have searched and watched many iconography, from ancient iran and mesopotamia, egypt. You can see lutes, a very few with pearshaped lutes but are commonly played with mezrab. There is no iconography about something like shor mezrab together with pearshaped lute. Kurdish Tamireh is more a technic and a repertoire than an instrument. If I see a pear shaped lute it can be saz, dotar, tambur, tambura.... How can I know that is the kurdish one? Only if I see shor mezrab, but we don't have
What's the difference Turkish, Kurdish or Iranian? Just enjoy from the voice and spiritual state that give you free. Our life is so short for this negotiations.
thats the point you are missing...its not about turkish presence in the middle east...turks are from central asia and there the instrument called tanbur has been around for around 4000 years even the ancient chinese wrote about it. this is a kopuz. the iranians were introduced to the kopuz and called it tanbur after the ancient turkic instrument which pre dates iran and persia.
What's the difference Turkish, Kurdish or Iranian? Just enjoy from the voice and spiritual state that give you free. Our life is so short for this negotiations.
@consunzione And this is not the real Tanbur. It's not the sacred repertoire nor the not sacred traditional one. This is a mix: Tanbur technic with folk persian music composed by this player.
there is an old turkic instrument called the tambur, predates the ones you mention. chinese records date it around 4000 years old, read up on it, then start talking rubbish ;)
wrong, my friend. we have an own isntrument called tambur. way back from central asia, thousands of years ago...it is as old as the first civilisations. this what you see is what we turks call kopuz.
صوفي چرا هشيار شد ساقي چرا بيكار شد٠ مستي اگر در خواب شد مستي دگر بيدار شد٠ خورشد اگر در گور شد عالم ز تو پر نور شد٠ چشم خوشت مخمور شد ديوانگي ناچار شد٠
if you think sunnies have killed him, I am sure you have never been in kermanshah, just government is behind killing him, dont try to make problem between different religions in kermanshah,
Also there is not one shred of evidence pertaining to it's use for religious purposes outside Kurdish regions of Eastern Kurdistan (Iranian Kurdistan), these regions including Kermanshan, Sine, (Sanandaj), Lurdistan and Elam. Keep the discussion civil, because I challenge you if you can get one evidence to suggest that Tamora is religious instrument used in by Persian nation and even if there is, it will merely be copied culture from Kurds.
All I dream is to see you. If you grant my ish it will do you no harm. Don’t worry if my heat is broken. A broken cup is nothing as. Long the jug of wine is safe.
Bunun neresi tanbur ya, halis mulis bağlama bu ayrıca bakıyorum da bağlamamızı sahiplenmeye başlamışlar bağlamayı sahipsiz mi buldunuz kardeşim, SAPINA KADAR TÜRK ÇALGISIDIR BAĞLAMA. :)
It's not a tambur, this instrument it's the old father of baglama( between Kopuz and Baglama) Iranien (Acem) and kurdish people Know it by the way of Shaman Turkish peoples. In fact the music is universal and every people can play baglama same the guitar. The true musicians like the music . Turks peoples are great. The LOOSERS CRY everytimes. you can't touch us.
To rainbowpal3: mate, you could have copied and pasted a link to a page on the net referring to your so called "Chinese" resources so we all can read it and see for ourselves that you are not relying on your urban legends. Just do it instead of posting a non-scientific claim over and over again.
Coq yahsi. Yasha Turk Milleti. The name of this Turkic instrument is kopuz and not tanbur. Tanbur is an classical Turkic instrument and the kopuz is more turkic folkers instrument.
@kabuklu Abi, There is a common heritage because they are similar people or of different ancient tribes. When you say Turkish they are mostly converted indigenous people they are not genetically or culturally 'Turkish'. This vast portion of today's culture was here before the Oghuz came in the Oghuz occupied territories. I still believe Oghuz cultures is prevalent in some genres like in Alevi music and the Bozlaks but its mixed with indigenous culture.
Where? I didn't see it. What? You want me to google "rainbowpal3's Chinese resource"? Come on. Give us a break and stop playing with words. The tanbur you talk about is played totally different. It's only a similar name you have in turkey. Do you really know anything about music?
please dont mix between kurdish music and turkish music, because kurdish music are much older from the turkish music and has a very deffirent chrachtor, and turkish or mongol music is very new and far away from kurdish music,this is Yarestani music and some of the Turkman become Alawis(which is kurdish religion) after they invated the area which they call it Turkey today
Aslı tanburdur..türkler iran kültüründen almış ve tambura demiştir, orta asyalılar tambura kelimesini dombıra olarak kullanmışlardır..Türkiyelilerin sandığı gibi bağlama değildir bağlamayıda türkiye arif sağ gibi türkiye kürtleri geliştirmiştir ve kendi şelpe tekniklerini öğretmişlerdir..teşekkürler.
TheShocktrauma Bunlar Bektaşi, Alevi, Kızılbaş öz Türkmen çalgıları. İran ismini koyanlar bile Türkler ve İran bir bölge ismidir 50% Azeri Türkmen kökenlidir. Şah ismail, Nader Şah gibi Türkmenler İran tarihinin öncüleridir. Bağlama modern kopuzdur ve anadolu Türkmenlerine hastır. Taa Çin'deki Uygur Türkleri olsun, kazaklar kırgızlar hepsi kopuz çalıyor. Türkiye'de meşhur kürt sazcılar hiç yok sayamazsın, sadece türkücüler var. Sana kapak olsun tarih biliyor gibi yorum yapma birdaha yüzüne sıcmayım!!!
so much disinfo here....usually by kurds, armenians, iarnians and everyone else who hates turks....its getting old, get over it guys, we turks will not go away, ok? this instrument you see and hear is NOT a tanbur, but a kopuz. tanbur is this, watch and listen : watch?v=4S4LyJ9msB0 it is the first instrument of the turks and from this many instruments came includign ut, saz, kopuz, cumbus, ecventually guitar, etc.
You people are pathetic. Stop with your petty Turk vs Kurd vs Persian tribal pride bs. Focus on what this song is really about: the love of Ali!!! A cup of wine is being offered and you discuss the origin of the cup instead of drinking the wine! You fools!!!! Ya Ali Haqq!!!Ya Ali Hu!!!
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I liked this clip this is really good and relaxing and frees human from a lot of stresses and other garbage. Sitting in the Nature with friends and listening nice nostalgic song, beautiful.
--Origin of all musical instruments mentioned below is Dombira. It is simple instrument. As of requirements it was customized added some extra stings, changed size and shape etc.
Remnants found in Akkad and Sumer same with those of Syberia. Shamans might have some connections.
یاحق ذات خاوندگار....یاذات مولای عالم...حق رحمتت کنه استاد😢😢
it sounds even better without the bud and with a clear and clean mind
These Yarsani Kurds from the Kakai tribe, also known as the Ahli Haqq. They are mainly from Kermanshan area.
+Alex Kurdi Thank you
I grew up with the ghaderis and they changed my life!
i come from dersim and the sayyeds play indersim too tambur. what they sing called breath. very nice perfekt my sayyed.
It's Kordish, the man speaks Kurdish and the instrument is one of Kurdistan's most sacred musical instrument Tamora.
The song is is in farsi and this is in iran and the instrument is a tanbur. But yes the kurds of iran are famous for playing the tanbur
this song hurts my heart...makes me cry
thank for adding.
@kabuklu
Not only very similar. The tanbur is an ancient sumerian lute, which only survived in the kurdish Ahl-i Haq group in the kurdish region of iran. The Ahl-i Haq culture therfore shares the similarities with Alevism that you talked about, a very good conclusion of yours!
Sana uzanin Eller kırılsın çok değerlisiniz
This is pretty metal. Just imagine if this were hooked up to an amp and run through a few distortion pedals.
i agreed somehow..because i listen and love rock music.but there are some different worlds between them
+Matt Johns Yes I am an old metalhead and I love this !
my thoughts exactly
This is the type of thing I do with my band Hashshashin: hashshashin.bandcamp.com/album/nihsahshsah
I'm going to see if I can find a Tanbur when I travel to Tajikistan later in the year.
Matt Johns 👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
music which transports you to places and through time... world music... excellent
Your my soul ya sayyed. Iove from dersim. I must each time hear this breath.
This is incredible.
اي عاشقان اي عاشقان من خاك را گوهر كنم/ وي مطربان اي مطربان دف شما پر زر كنم/ اي تشنگان اي تشنگان امروز سقايي كنم/ وين خاكدان خشك را جنت كنم كوثر كنم/ من غصه را شادي كنم گمراه را هادي كنم/ من گرگ را يوسف كنم من زهر را شكر كنم/ ياهو يا عالي نژاد تو زنده اي
This looks like it's Seyed Khalil Alinezhad, a famous Kurdish tanbur player and singer. He's associated with Yarsani groups, so perhaps these are Yarsani musicians.
He is a YARSAN.
smoked a big fat bowl of some mighty fine bud and this music sounds really good now.
@consunzione "Historians cannot agree about the exact origins of the Kurdish/Persian tanbur, however the first documentation of its existence comes from ancient Babylon"
I LOVE this music so much !!!
هذا ليست موسيقى
بزرگترین حسرتم ندیدن روی سید بود...چه صدایی.. جه زخمه ای
+Ali Mojaver narahat nabash, mitooni rooye seyede too shalvare mano bebini....kiram too eslam
+cody modes musighi va ziabaie az har ja nashat begire khobe agar shoma ba zaher o esme ali moshkel dari az kotah nazarie shomast khalil alinejad chon baghi honarmandan rohesh ra bar saz boron mirizkht..in ham az bozorgie on adam miad k shoma natavani az didanash...Alate mobarket b eslam ya har idelogy k khasi foro kon manm vasam mohem nis..ama in rahe shoma mese on kotaah nazarni k az esme khlalil faghat hamin zavaher mibininano adasho dar miarn b foro bordam daste khare shoma be lajan mianjamad...
omidavaram ziad daste khar dar lajan nakonid..
Great Voice!
@pogoism1 I will say more... there is no medieval of late iconography about this instrument... This doesn't mean that it's not very old, we know that it has been played by Yaresan for nearly 1000 years, so it has a previous long history. But maybe what we hear is an instrument very ancient, like saz, dotar, dombra ecc... played with a technic invented during 900 years by Ahl e Haq for their spiritual intents. The most beautiful composition have not more than 300 years.
بزرگمردی که هیچگاه از یادم نخواهد رفت ،تکرار نشدنی،...آلمان19*7*2017🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷جاویدنامت.
❤❤❤❤❤❤🌹
@pogoism1 I have searched and watched many iconography, from ancient iran and mesopotamia, egypt. You can see lutes, a very few with pearshaped lutes but are commonly played with mezrab. There is no iconography about something like shor mezrab together with pearshaped lute. Kurdish Tamireh is more a technic and a repertoire than an instrument. If I see a pear shaped lute it can be saz, dotar, tambur, tambura.... How can I know that is the kurdish one? Only if I see shor mezrab, but we don't have
Dombra is also a Kazakh national instrument but we play slightly differently. Mashallah anyways
@kabuklu Not really, because Sayyid is a kurd, too.
What kind of music is this? I am Greek and I love this music. It sounds familiar to my ears and I feel it expresses a lot of pain and respect.
its called berber music
@@mrjones3026 no?
tanurbis an instrument played by armenians, persians, kurds, turks, afghanis, and more
persian music
Kurdish yarsan music
What's the difference Turkish, Kurdish or Iranian? Just enjoy from the voice and spiritual state that give you free. Our life is so short for this negotiations.
thats the point you are missing...its not about turkish presence in the middle east...turks are from central asia and there the instrument called tanbur has been around for around 4000 years even the ancient chinese wrote about it.
this is a kopuz. the iranians were introduced to the kopuz and called it tanbur after the ancient turkic instrument which pre dates iran and persia.
rainbowpal3 and i think saz is iranian including kurdish and armenian
Kopuz is fretless my friend !!!! It is tanbour and it is one of the oldest instrument in the world . And its belong to iranian kurdish people .
What's the difference Turkish, Kurdish or Iranian? Just enjoy from the voice and spiritual state that give you free. Our life is so short for this negotiations.
'he fool is the one who calls other fools while not looking in the mirror first'
old turkic saying for you ;)
LONG LIVE PERSIAN AND KURD
LONG LIVE ARYAN PEOPLE
Jesus what are you a nazi
@@skate4735 they are called aryan iran means aryan land
@@skate4735 lol part of history not taught in school!
i have, read back and type it into google. or is that too much to handle? ;)
Sic vibe bro!
Wow from Australia
*buy* the album Raze No by hossein alizadeh
what are they singing about?
@consunzione And this is not the real Tanbur. It's not the sacred repertoire nor the not sacred traditional one. This is a mix: Tanbur technic with folk persian music composed by this player.
there is an old turkic instrument called the tambur, predates the ones you mention. chinese records date it around 4000 years old, read up on it, then start talking rubbish ;)
Thats Kurdish and its Tanbur not tambur
هوووو حق مدد حق است قلندر
wrong, my friend.
we have an own isntrument called tambur. way back from central asia, thousands of years ago...it is as old as the first civilisations. this what you see is what we turks call kopuz.
صوفي چرا هشيار شد ساقي چرا بيكار شد٠ مستي اگر در خواب شد مستي دگر بيدار شد٠ خورشد اگر در گور شد عالم ز تو پر نور شد٠ چشم خوشت مخمور شد ديوانگي ناچار شد٠
makes me feel alright tnx for sharing
یا علی
مددی
سید خلیل خدا بیامرزتت
نفسش حقه
wonrrrrderfulll!
if you think sunnies have killed him, I am sure you have never been in kermanshah, just government is behind killing him, dont try to make problem between different religions in kermanshah,
IR has murdered many many people in Iran
I have the same thing. They seem to be in another place.
Its sufi music which is used for transporting one's soul closer to the Beloved. in short;)
Also there is not one shred of evidence pertaining to it's use for religious purposes outside Kurdish regions of Eastern Kurdistan (Iranian Kurdistan), these regions including Kermanshan, Sine, (Sanandaj), Lurdistan and Elam. Keep the discussion civil, because I challenge you if you can get one evidence to suggest that Tamora is religious instrument used in by Persian nation and even if there is, it will merely be copied culture from Kurds.
روحت شاد!! یاعلی !! یاحق !!
I m very sad, that i did not know Sayyed for many years ago.
How this kind of people can be killed
by the hand of IR. They've killed many of our minority groups
Text??????
Man klam ra nemishnawam. Lotfan Text ra Yaddasht konand. Ba kamale Tashakor
مرد را دردی اگر باشد خوش است.
thanks for uploading
who are these people
and why they are like these
it seems they are in a deep thought
is any one knows and have information
where are the women
thanks
wonderfull!!ماشاء الله
Is anyone able to translate or transcribe the lyrics so I can sing along? I can read Persian but not understand it!
همه هست آرزويم كه ببينم از تو رويي/ چه زيان ترا كه من هم برسم به آرزويي/ بشكست اگر دل من به فداي چشم مستت/ سر خم مي سلامت شكند اگر سبوئي
سرم چون گوی در میدان بگرده
دلم از عهد و پیمان بر نگرده
اگر دوران به نااهلان بمانه
نشینم تا که این دوران بگرده
الهی به مستان میخانه‌ات
بعقل آفرینان دیوانه‌ات
All I dream is to see you. If you grant my ish it will do you no harm. Don’t worry if my heat is broken. A broken cup is nothing as. Long the jug of wine is safe.
I will not betray my path even if my head is rolling on the field (I am beheaded). If the world obeys the undeserving. I will wait till it rolls over.
@pogoism1 How can you say that is sumerian?
@kabuklu but this one has spiritual thing inside man u should be with them and fly your inside with them, this kind a pray right now
şu adamı traş edin :D
Bunun neresi tanbur ya, halis mulis bağlama bu ayrıca bakıyorum da bağlamamızı sahiplenmeye başlamışlar bağlamayı sahipsiz mi buldunuz kardeşim, SAPINA KADAR TÜRK ÇALGISIDIR BAĞLAMA. :)
the ignorance in this thread is so deep. this is not the original tambur....
It's not a tambur, this instrument it's the old father of baglama( between Kopuz and Baglama) Iranien (Acem) and kurdish people Know it by the way of Shaman Turkish peoples.
In fact the music is universal and every people can play baglama same the guitar.
The true musicians like the music .
Turks peoples are great.
The LOOSERS CRY everytimes.
you can't touch us.
Thank you.
🤲حق🤲 الله🤲
What is name
Seyed Khalil Ali nejad he was a yarsanism but unfortunately they killed him in Sweden 2010
To rainbowpal3: mate, you could have copied and pasted a link to a page on the net referring to your so called "Chinese" resources so we all can read it and see for ourselves that you are not relying on your urban legends. Just do it instead of posting a non-scientific claim over and over again.
This is saz baglama, not tanbur
Coq yahsi.
Yasha Turk Milleti.
The name of this Turkic instrument is kopuz and not tanbur. Tanbur is an classical Turkic instrument and the kopuz is more turkic folkers instrument.
Realite58 ever istrument is turkish
god is too turkish
idiot
This is tanbur and it is iranian instrument not turkish .
so you are saying the tanbur was already in persia 4500 years ago? send me the link with proof then....im now doing the same thing you do ;)
khoda biamorze in darvish ra
If you like this go and check out Omar Faruk Tekbilek , this is nice playing the tanbur is beatufiful!
ئاین یارستان سر
رۆحت شاد😢
that is not tanbur. tanbur's voice is very very different. if you want to listen tanbur, you listen tanbur-i cemil bey...
@kabuklu Abi, There is a common heritage because they are similar people or of different ancient tribes. When you say Turkish they are mostly converted indigenous people they are not genetically or culturally 'Turkish'. This vast portion of today's culture was here before the Oghuz came in the Oghuz occupied territories. I still believe Oghuz cultures is prevalent in some genres like in Alevi music and the Bozlaks but its mixed with indigenous culture.
هووو
هی خدا هی
now you are making even dumber comments, the mirror is working ;)
Where? I didn't see it. What? You want me to google "rainbowpal3's Chinese resource"? Come on. Give us a break and stop playing with words. The tanbur you talk about is played totally different. It's only a similar name you have in turkey. Do you really know anything about music?
kurds are Persians, basta!
یا علی مدد
lol
english? why are you calling your own family all those things? i dont understand :P
сори ама това не е тамбура
definitely the root of all human knowledge and culture goes back to Turks, however other people by changing the names try to steal the credit.
The most horrible take I've heard in a long while. So bad in fact it made me respond to a 13 year old comment. Quite impressive if nothing
please dont mix between kurdish music and turkish music, because kurdish music are much older from the turkish music and has a very deffirent chrachtor, and turkish or mongol music is very new and far away from kurdish music,this is Yarestani music and some of the Turkman become Alawis(which is kurdish religion) after they invated the area which they call it Turkey today
arkadaşlar bu tanbur değil tenbur
originally turkish??????
yawns
Tanbur? Bağlama 😉
Aslı tanburdur..türkler iran kültüründen almış ve tambura demiştir, orta asyalılar tambura kelimesini dombıra olarak kullanmışlardır..Türkiyelilerin sandığı gibi bağlama değildir bağlamayıda türkiye arif sağ gibi türkiye kürtleri geliştirmiştir ve kendi şelpe tekniklerini öğretmişlerdir..teşekkürler.
👍👍👍👏👏👏
TheShocktrauma Bunlar Bektaşi, Alevi, Kızılbaş öz Türkmen çalgıları. İran ismini koyanlar bile Türkler ve İran bir bölge ismidir 50% Azeri Türkmen kökenlidir. Şah ismail, Nader Şah gibi Türkmenler İran tarihinin öncüleridir. Bağlama modern kopuzdur ve anadolu Türkmenlerine hastır. Taa Çin'deki Uygur Türkleri olsun, kazaklar kırgızlar hepsi kopuz çalıyor. Türkiye'de meşhur kürt sazcılar hiç yok sayamazsın, sadece türkücüler var. Sana kapak olsun tarih biliyor gibi yorum yapma birdaha yüzüne sıcmayım!!!
so much disinfo here....usually by kurds, armenians, iarnians and everyone else who hates turks....its getting old, get over it guys, we turks will not go away, ok?
this instrument you see and hear is NOT a tanbur, but a kopuz. tanbur is this, watch and listen :
watch?v=4S4LyJ9msB0
it is the first instrument of the turks and from this many instruments came includign ut, saz, kopuz, cumbus, ecventually guitar, etc.
That's more related to the shamisen rather than the tenbûr...
You people are pathetic. Stop with your petty Turk vs Kurd vs Persian tribal pride bs. Focus on what this song is really about: the love of Ali!!! A cup of wine is being offered and you discuss the origin of the cup instead of drinking the wine! You fools!!!! Ya Ali Haqq!!!Ya Ali Hu!!!