Insane Value, You Won't Believe It - Carinthia Defence 1 Sleeping Bag Review
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- The Value of this sleeping bag will impress you!
This is the Carinthia Defence 1 and when it comes to a synthetic sleeping bag, in my opinion this is a no brainer.
The quality is top notch, the temp rating is excellent, it’s a versatile bag that can be added to other defence bags to create very low temp sleep systems.
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Carinthia Defence 1 Sleeping Bag Review
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Price : $117 for the Medium, $123 for the Large
Color : Olive
Temp Range : Comfort Range 39F, Extreme 14F
Sizes : Medium and Large sizes
Measurements :
Size Rec. height Length Width* Weight Comp. size
Medium. Up to 6' 1" 7' 0.5" 33.5" 2.3 lb 7" x 10"
Large Up to 6' 7" 7' 6.5" 34.5" 2.64 lb 7" x 11"
*Measured at shoulder height
Materials :
Shellproof outer shell - a lightweight, hard-wearing, ripstop reinforced and specially treated polyamide which is both wind and waterproof (1000 mm), yet breathable.
Shelltrans lining - a soft to the skin ripstop reinforced polyamide with excellent moisture-wicking capabilities keeps you comfortable through the night.
Thermoflect, a very thin, very lightweight aluminium material that reflects body heat. Thermoflect raises the sleeping bags heat-retaining capacity by about 11 %.
G-Loft filling - Carinthia's own, in-house "hollow-fibre", made in Austria. Highly compressible, excellent weight-insulation ratio and also moisture resistant, meaning that it will work even under long-term use in damp conditions.
Defence 1 uses single layered, lightweight G-Loft filling. In this lightweight design, the outer shell is loosely attached to the bag.
The G-LOFT Plus filling is quilted to an insulating scrim. As a result, an additional air pocket is formed between the quilted insulation layer and the shell, yet no cold seams can occur.
Features :
Two way zippers
Bag is designed to have enough space in the bottle of the bag for shoe bag or extra clothing
Designed for military purposes but luckily it isn’t so overly built that it can’t be use by civilians.
Zipper Baffle
Mummy Shape
Carinthia :
Carinthia is a well-known sleeping bag and existence gear manufacturer. Outside of their homeland Austria they have equipped many European countries, including Scandinavia and our very own Finnish Defence Forces too! Carinthia manufactures their products in Moldova.
My experiences :
Before moving to the pros and cons, I want to share my experiences with this bag;
I have been testing this out for a good part of the spring and summer and to say that I have been impressed is an understatement.
The coldest conditions that I have used this bag are down to 40F which is basically the rating of this bag and I was incredibly comfortable. With regular clothing for myself, I go even lower temp wise and be comfortable and in the future I will have a followup review discussing the performance in that regards.
Review Pros :
Awesome quality
Impressive price
True Temp Rating
Very warm
Very durable Bag
Fairly lightweight for being a military bag
Fairly compressible with a reasonable stuff size
Excellent military grade materials
Can be used with other Defence sleeping bags to create extremely warm sleep systems.
Smooth zippers
Review Cons :
Obvious : not the smallest or the lightest bag but one should expect this with the bag being designed for military purposes
Summary :
When it comes to a synthetic sleeping bag, in my opinion this sleeping bag is a no brainer. The quality is top notch, the temp rating is excellent, it’s a versatile bag that can be added to other defence bags to create very low temp sleep systems.
The price is awesome and I can easily recommend it.
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NC guy here...i hate the sweat bees (flies) whatever you wanna call them. Lol
Brother they are the freaking worst! I was eating lunch yesterday and one was on my sandwich...stung the inside of my mouth! - Luke
Need to get one of those tennis racket zappers...was camping last week and dispatched tons of bees, deer flies and other various swarms
they are harmless, as are wasps, bees and hornets if you don't swat at them or kill one, making them put out a federal scent indicating you are hostile and need to be dealt with.
Skin so soft works
@@ag0nizingdemise hell no it does not. Try it in Algonquin Park
let’s take a minute to appreciate his description box. so informative
Where is the box?
god damn that's a lotta info
I've got the Carinthia MIG 3.0 jacket, tough and warm with a bombproof build quality.
Carinthia are one of the best military brands in world!
I need to get me one of them, thanks Luke. You do such a thorough and really good review.
Nice to see this sleeping bag in your reviews. I use it for years and I love it !
Just ordered mine because of this fantastic review: thank you once again for sharing your views for free
I finally got one of these and it immediately became my favorite sleeping bag, and it's not even close.
Great review. Im looking for a second bag so this looks great. Thank you.
Cool! Bought one after watching your video about it. Wasn't disappointed. Probably going to get the defence 4 as well.. Thanks for the video!
If you don’t like bugs, try the Carinthia Tropen sleeping bag wich includes an insect net. Also combined with the Defence1 it becomes an impressive 4-Season sleep system.
Half my outdoor gear contains Carinthia surplus products. Anything the German military provides
Also, never, ever come to N. Carolina. lol
Tropen works even better with the Defence 4, if you ask me (or the Swedish army). ;)
Does the Tropen have a wire or something to keep the net off your face?
@@mariastevens6406 It does not. I have it too. It's a great bag though, and an easy fix if you want to add a small loop yourself.
@@c99kfm Does the Tropen have a side zip?
I was so satisfied with the Defence 1 and 4 my last years in the army, that I bought both after leaving. They are both regularly used, and have never disapointed.
It might seem strange, but i use a Carinthia Eagle every night in my bed. I have extremely uneasy sleep, related to PTSD. I punch and I kick, which in it self is annoying. But since I also have a painfull busted knee, it's debilitating. The Eagle is extremely comfortable even at 30c. I bought the smallest size, which is a rather tight fit. It gives me better sleep then the different weightet blankets I've used previously. And at half the price for either of those.
Probably not a use case that's relevant for many. Guess I just wanted to say, before starting my rambling. That Carinthia has quality products for all temperatures:)
Thank you so much for your service. I hope you continue to find relief and heal during your journey through this life.
I wish you recovery, hero.
awesome review thank you
Yep!... Your video helped make my decision on buying the Carinthia 6 sleeping bag!... Awesome bag, and well done! Thank you!!!
Great review!! Thank you!!🥰
I really appreciate and enjoy your videos, intelligent, great spirit, no dumb attitude like on some other gear review channels. also, very well done and thorough reviews. 👍
Hi Luke. I just wanted to say thank you. Your reviews are great and thorough. I really appreciate the +/- approach you take to all your reviews. I just bought the defence 4 bag :). M
I remember when the Australain Army changed over from civi sleeping bags (that were rated to 15c) to mountain sleeping bags (rated to -7c)..., what a huge difference it made to moral after a cold night.
I was so lucky that I got the defense 1 and 4 for free after my time in the military 🔥🔥
Since it's a bag not from the U.S I take it you weren't an American soldier but I still want to thank you for serving in your country's military.
@@morrius0757 Thank you. I served in the Norwegian Army 🤩 One of the best years of my life
@@LBEfication A new Kalmarunionen like the one Queen Margrete 1 made...? Count me in... ;)
Damn you norwegians and your oil money! I can only dream of getting something free from the military even after 5+ years of service.
In the Finnish army we did have the def 1 & 4 (at least in recon where i was), but as a conscription country everything is so tight on the money that we could only wish for such benefits. Great bags to have in the military, though. Bought them myaelf afterwords.
By the way, we had modifications that had flame protected bottoms for tent stove protection.
Thanks for the review, definitely one to consider. Looks like a bag I could use year around here at the NC coast.
Love the soundtrack. Really nice guy. So professional video. I subscribed!
i myself slept with the defence 1 and 4 combination to -25 celcius no problem. I also used there bivvy tents awesome kit. I now use the Brenta bag also great item for great value
I’m a trucker and I’m now planning on getting a heavier version, just in case of a break down in the dead of winter aka worst case scenario so thanks for alerting me to such a great producer of mil spec bags as I trust those most.
Flatbed driver here,I break down 2013/2014 in January -40 Fahrenheit men if I didn’t have sleeping bag,I would die waiting for road service to bring me the coolant hose,stay safe driver I wish you best this winter
Thanks for the video
I just order mine, thank you very much for the review on a great product that doesn't break the bank...prolly should have ordered two...
Great review!
When I was 14 my parents bought me a Lesterel sleeping bag. It was awesome. I went to Tunisian desert, France, Baffin Island, Sweden, Apalachians... 34 years, it's brand new.
Carinthia makes incredible gear no doubt. I love it all. My only gripe is their specs. I'm 6'5". Buying gear is never easy especially sleeping bags. I bought the Large Defence 1 based a lot on your review. Carinthia states that there bags generally come in two sizes. One being Large and able to fit a person up to 6'7". It's simply not the case. I bought the Large and could not get in and lay flat on my back. I actually contacted Tacsale and they simply stated it is what it is. The specs were generated by Carinthia and used by Tacsale. I love the bag so much I kept it and altered the bottom by opening the bag up, creating a barn door with the resulting flap, and sticking my feet out with down booties on. Not a big deal during the warmer months. During the colder months I tuck the Defence 1 inside my wiggy military bag and all is good. You have to ask, what good is a bag if it doesn't allow you to lie flat on your back. Luke maybe you can decipher why Carinthia uses the specs they do. What's the logic?
Good review , thanks for sharing , God bless !
I own one of these. One of my favorite pieces of kit and I swear by it
Great review
Hey Luke, thanks for the good and honest reviews. I really appreciate the effort you put into your channel. I just ordered a 1 and a 4. I hope they will work out well. The compression bag looks robust and I really like that the bags are not down. Best to you,
This isn't a review, it's a sales pitch
Hey Luke been using the #1 up here in Minnesota for the last 3 weeks. Very happy with my purchase, like the synthetic very much, like the middle zipper and the fact it is not a coil. the compression sack works well. No complaints. would be nice if they came with a storage sack, but I bought one. Haven't use the #4 yet but that time is coming soon. Temps have been in low 50's with no problem. I'll keep temp testing the #1 but certain will need cuddle duds pants and a puffy for the forties. Keep up the good work Luke. Much repect
Defence4 is recommended (is sold together with) "tropen". It has zippers on the side and bug net. That is awesome for warm climate, and when combined with defence4 make an excelent combo, as there are no air moving through both zippers.
You are absolutly right got also both of it....carinthia has realy god stuff....👍👍
Ah yes- sweat bees. We had a whole load of fun with them on the Deep Creek and Indian Creek trails this week
owning one i gotta say i'm pleased. i especially like how any future liner can be strapped into there, which is compelling. also really easy to store. i usually hate the feel of polyester on my skin but this bag doesn't give that 'burn' sensation at all. just really really nice. i love that it has some space to move around and the way it closes means no daylight in my eyes without a mask. means it's warmer too because the head loses alot of heat too. Just so snug!
Great review luke. I have a snug pak tactical 3 for the winter months which is similar to this product. Take care buddy.
Very appreciate your recommendations.
I bought one because of ur video like 2years ago?
I used a lot, and just like you said, the product is amazing!
Only done part from me that when fully zipped the zipper is like on my face, uncomfortable. I’m 511.
Other than that amazing product, used it a lot and never fail me
I use a Carinthia Brenta sleeping bag and I agree with you both when it comes to quality and price. It is simply awesome. My bag has a comfort rating at -10C, and I've used it in the middle of the summer as well, not getting to hot. Easy to pack, easy to sleep in and I love the extra "pillow casing" you get with it. Just stuff it with clothes you're not wearing and you got yourself a pillow without having to carry one :)
I can really recomend this company 🤘
I was only two thirds of the way through the video when I paused it and ordered one. Thanks for a great review. Sold me.
Aw thanks! But I didn't give you my shipping address yet.
Dude, thank you. You just found my new bag for me
I love this bag. Have two of them, one of each size so i can go camping with a frend. Works great with Särmä TST Thermal cloak also. So no need for Defence 4. Have you seen the Carinthia Finnish M05 sleeping bag, its like defence 4 but with liner and spark resistant footbox.
It's also one of the few bags that can come close to the MSS
MSS is better in what ways?
I am wanting to upgrade.
Courtesy of the youtube algorithm I have found this channel. Though camping is not for me personally, I do find your videos very well made and informative.
I had the Carinthia 6 winter bag for some time years ago. I loved the center zip and the performance, but it´s monstrous in size. I passed it on and got a down bag.
This could be the best bag ive seen in some time and possibly be the the replacement for my use mummy bag its down filled and its heavy i like this bag alot im definitely going to see if I can find one thanx luke
Thank you for exposing me to this brand.
I hope you do more with this brand.
Been waiting for this review since you told me about it. I'll see how it does next weekend (if weather permits)
Honesty and simplicity at its best!
Thank you my brother!
I have the Carinthia Survival One Sleeping Bag with the synthetic fill for over a year now. I sold my US Army ECWSS bags in order to get the Survival One. I am VERY happy with my purchase. It's the best made bag I've ever had in terms of function and utility. Love that I can kick my feet out the bottom, and / or wear the whole bag in a pinch. I combine it with a fleece liner for extra comfort, and even though It's waterproof-ish, I have a USMC gortex bivy I can slide the bag into to add another 10-degrees of warmth or heavy rain protection.
Do you know how you can tell Luke's reviews are unbiased? He always let's the products speak for themselves. It is never Luke that tells you whether a product is good or bad, he always lets the products do that. Luke is just the narrator of the results. Great video Luke!
Good review. This reminds me of the patrol bag of ECWSS. It’s about the same weight and about the same temperature rating. I’ve used that whole system for a while with no complaints.
Yep the patrol bag and the bivy cover got me through a ton of bad weather.
I bought it last month after seeing your review, and went for a 2 nights trip in the mountain with my friends. I used it together with the Carinthia Special Forces Bivy : i had 2 amazing nights !!! Great products from Carinthia !!
Thank you for this video. Great review! I think I need a Defence 6 bag---I sleep cold.
I have a defense 4 and it's bananas good, they are also designed to be used without a shelter.
Wow that's impressive.
Defence 4 here, it rocks, only thing is the zipper opened in middle of the night, and I had the feeling I was suffocating fecause the hole was small… but kept me warm the night long. Is my best sleepingbag
The Defence 4 is also designed to use it together with the Defence Tropen, if it´s to cold for the defence 4 alone.
The Bundeswehr uses the Defence 4, they call it 'Schlafsack, Allgemein Typ II" 😁. Good quality sleeping bag, never failed me on manouvers.
I just checked out the link and looked at the bag defense 6....minus 18c....is this real? That's minus 64° in america
Nice! Finally a light weight bag to go with my 1949 extreme cold weather down mummy bag and bivi.
Good video. Looks like a great bag. I bought a bag in the early 80s with such an aluminum layer. Still have it.
I just picked up the Defense 1 & 4. Great kit.
Very nice! I like the stacking of bags too! I have a MH 32f down bag, regular. And a MH 15f down bag, large. The 32 fits perfectly into the 15. Very warm...
Have these as part of my gear in the Swedish army. This is next level professional bags. Highly recommended. Also, the compression bag it comes with is one of the best I've used also. I would reckon it's about 6-7 years ago I check mine out from from the qm, and it's still in tip top condition after massive amounts of use.
Swede here as well. Given you experience with said bag, would you say Tropen (for slightly warmer weather) is enough for weekend trips in the woods? Won't ever be used below the recommended comfort levels - but, looking at other reviews of sleeping bags, most seem to go for bags in the summer that have a comfort recommendation around +/- 0 C.
Great review.👍👍🇺🇸
For 117 bucks, quality makes it a no brain purchase. I will add this to a MSS-type system for overland camping in the higher elevations in the Sierras and Cascades. Great review, Luke!
I might experiment with this bag and the Onewind top quilt. Could be an interesting combo there.
Ahhh, the noble Sweat Bee, a foe I know very well. It was in fact the very first insect I was stung by once I moved from Detroit to WNC nearly 34 years ago.
At least they don't rob you like the critters in detroit LOL
Carintiha makes brilliant bags. In the Danish army we each had the Tropen bag and the Defence 4. They are tried and tested bags, i have used them alot for a couple of years and in really bad weather. I have even used both at once in -20 degrees celcius under just a tarp with good sleep. We also had the "Bivy 2" wich worked great with bag and all rolled up inside it and just stuffed up under the lid of the backpack, but they could build up alot of condensation even though they had goretex.
Awesome video
I borrowed a defence 4 for a winter hunting trip 3 years ago at -5 degrees F on average every night for a week I was comfortable. I bought one as soon as I got back from that trip. One of the best economical 4 season bags I have ever tried
Best tool for sweatbees or any flying biting insects. Flame thrower!
How much, Where, can I buy one? Any recommendations?
Buy a pack of cigarettes. Tear off the filter. Rip open add to cold water or spit. Rub wet tobacco to skin. BUGS WILL FLEE.you will stink untill you wash off WITH SOAP. BUGS WILL FLEE.
Fireboard those mother jammers! -Key and Peele
@@cynthiarothrock4255 Are you the martial arts Cynthia I saw in the H-TLJ TV series?
@Timothy Mckee Good one!
I have Carinthia Tropen, absolutely flawless. Might have to look into one of the Defence for colder temp or combos.
Very nice bag! Looked at these a few times over the years just never bought one. I also like the snugpak elite 3 sleeping bag. You can make that bag wider for larger folks cause it has a double zipper. You can also shorten the bag with clips attached to the bag. These bags come long so that's a nice feature that way you don't have wasted space. All ykk zippers aswell. I think the Carinthia and snugpak bags are fairly comparible. Both are semi affordable and well thought out, well made. Snugpak also makes a special forces series sleep system that's pretty nice. Good stuff luke! Hike on!!
Great review, if you are looking for a good jacket try the Carinthia MIG III.
i was stuck between the snugpak and the carinthia for my first sleeping bag another great review from theoutdoorgearreview made the choice for me same as the litefighter1 that i bought greetings from the netherlands
Brilliant manufacturer - the quality is right out there with the likes of Savotta.
I personally use their smallest late spring / summer bag ’Eagle’. I’m a hot sleeper, and also have a couple of their cotton inner liners, which in warm weather, especially coupled with a tent or if you stay indoors (couch surf), work well as a standalone sleeping bag.
Carinthia makes all the sleeping bags for the Finnish Defense Forces, the one in particular being the Carinthia M05-SA model (it's a modded Defence 4 with a fire resistant footbox bacause of heatingstoves) I've had countless hours in that bad boy and after using the Defence 1, I'm even more impressed by Carinthia. Excelent quality and like you said, no cons. Absolutely would recommend to anybody.
Great video. Reminds me of the snugpak.
Great review...this sleeping bag is fantastic...Freedom for all people....
Hey There! I'm from Germany. Ex-Bundeswehr guy. I love my Carinthia Sleeping System! It is the Defence 1 + Defence 4 + gloft boots + gloft kinda hoodie. This combination keeps you alive with temp at -35°C. Comfort temp - 18°C. There not cheap, but bombproof. A life time sleeping system.
Wish they'd make the medium length with a larger width, I sleep sprawled and mummy bags make me suicidal! LOL
For rills!!!
@Timothy Mckee I'm only 5'3", those would have to be some huge boots! LOL Also I don't really want to have extra weight I don't really need to carry.
Then buy the Carinthia “Tropen” if you can get a hand on comes with a side zip a wide opening that you can close to your preferences and it even has a hidden bug net that you can unfold over the head area which I myself keep away from with a boot guess you could find TH-cam videos it’s nearly the same temperature range and you can combine it with the “brenta” wich is the Winter side zip sleeping bag of choice just look em up
I feel the same which is why I chose this brand. I'm 184 cm. Weighing 96 kg. And is fitting comfortable in a sleeping bag for the first time. (I bought the large size, both tropen and defence 4)
They have other versions as well, the Carinthia Brenta(?) is wider, I believe
I have the defence 4 (I think) and it's been brilliant. Yeah it might not pack as small as others but man, the comfort, the price, the quality; superb! Very similar to the one we used in the army. Real good stuff.
Defence 4 is too warm for summer UK
great bag though
Thanks luke👍
I got a Carinthia Defence 4. Best purchase ive done so far.
Thats a awsome price for a really nice looking bag. And I would think with the center zipper it would work good in a hammock situation. Any thoughts on that would be helpful. Awesome review wicked good Channel
Thanks!
I also have both defence 1 & 4. They are really good to use while hammock camping as well because of the zipper in the middle. In can highly recommend Carinthias products for everyone. 👍🏻👍🏻
5:35 That actually looks good with this in the Video the smoke! Fits the Element. Sweet sleeping bag too I`d purchase that give it a go.
I’m intrigued.
My rig is a light parachute tissue hamac with a cord running in the lenght over it. Over the cord, you put a thin plastic for painters, about 3x3 meters in min. Then you close the gaps between plastic and hamac with a couple of cloth clamps. Comfortable to -10°C, weight under 1kg plus the sleeping bag. It is important to get off the ground.
Great review Luke. For your next update on this product maybe let us know if this bag has the 'emergency exit' functionality like the Defence 4? I'm curious!!
Every sleeping bag from Carinthia has it.
I have all my bags from Caranthia. All excellent quality.
Have been using this bag and can say it is worth it 👍👍👍👍
Lov your channel Luke, could you do a review on the Carinthia sleeping bag with the arms, respect 🇮🇪👊🍀
I have the defence 4 and the observer plus hooped bivi. I rarely use the defence 4, I sleep hot and anything above 0c is too warm for me to use the bag. The Observer plus is one of my goto bits of kit, I use it in all weathers. I will use a small tarp for an admin area if needed. It is stealthy and works just as well above the tree line. The bug mesh works well in warmer weather and it deals with any type of weather. I love my Carinthia stuff!
Yes, mate. Carinthia are the Dog's Bollocks. I have the Defence 4 bag, the Tropen Bag, and their G-Loft Ultra jacket. Superb equipment. Cheers.
Got the bag. Good indeed, although there is airflow around the neck.
Great Review ❗️
In Europe you either love or hate it, but for the Price you get great value. Use it with the Carinthia Tropen down to -8 Celsius 👍🇨🇭
Just ordered the Defence 1, and the Survival 1000 Down based on your honest reviews. These will replace a German summer bag and a North Face -40 Inferno down bag. Looking forward to putting them to use.
I have the defence 1, I accidently ordered the large. I'm 6'0" and I actually like the extra space in a summer bag. My 4 season bag is also by Carinthia, the Finnish Defense Force bag, it has some nice features over the defence 4.
What do you like about the Finish bag over the Defence 4?
@@thatchanguy The defense bags taper straight down from the head to the footbox where the FDF bag sides are parallel to the waist before tapering. It gives a little more arm room which I like, as I hate feeling constricted. I suppose a negative of that is there is more airspace inside the bag that your body needs to heat up. I live in the UK so I never get temps that come close to the lower limits of the bag. The outside of the footbox is also of a heavier material so you can "sack race" in the night for a pee break without getting out of your bag!
Hey Luke good review you should try out the Carinthia Euro Down Bag and compare the two.
The Carinthia observer plus bivybag is superb.
The Tropen does the work as well. I combine it with the defence 4. Well nice but using it months in a row it let me down a lot. Sleeping in minus 20 Celsius lots of time or rain/snow conditions. They are made bombproof that's what I like. But not so warm as they say. I combine it with a tarp by the way.
I have both the def 4 and 1. In Finland they are the perfect couple. Def 1 as a 3-season bag and def 4 for the winter and late fall and early spring. Actually, they are awesome to use on top of each other in the cold winter months (-15c and down). The def 4 is a bit too roomy for me, and thus gets a bit cold, so the def 1 works as a perfect liner inside it and boy is it warm.
Actually, at least the def 4 needs a heat lock thingy on the shoulders to prevent air flow, so i sewed one on myself. On the Def 1 it is not as crucial. That's the only complaint I have about the Defences.
I myself think the def 1 is the best price to warmth ratio sleeping bag, at least in my country's market. Love it!
Great stuff, Luke! Keep up the good work!
Cheers from the land of Where Is The Liquor (Varusteleka)👋
Hi from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures and your family brother