P90's on a Les Paul Still Cool?

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  • @PlayandTradeGuitars
    @PlayandTradeGuitars  ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @reddsshaker3477
    @reddsshaker3477 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    P90s will ALWAYS be cool. Trouble is, most players aren’t cool enough to use them.

    • @gergemall
      @gergemall 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great line ❤.

  • @DanIvyOffical
    @DanIvyOffical ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love that p90s are getting some love these days. I love their sound

  • @markpell8979
    @markpell8979 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a few LP Specials with the wraparound one-piece bridge and they intonate very nicely with 9-46 Hybrid Slinkys.

  • @michaelheller8841
    @michaelheller8841 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just got mine in TV yellow!! it is a Rock Machine but even more than that. The P-90s can deliver whatever
    you want and they clean up nicely with the volume rolled back. I have enough Custom Shop guitars so I
    went for the USA version. I would recommend this guitar to anyone.

  • @sideshow1297
    @sideshow1297 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude's right, I tried one of these recently. Best neck in the store for me and those P90s were amazing, especially the neck pickup. I've never owned a guitar with P90s but the I've tried two recently, both gibsons, they're great. I wish I discovered them decades ago when I started playing, but I went through the 80s which meant super strats. P90s are my new favorites. Thanks for posting this.

  • @joshgray3581
    @joshgray3581 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And I just discovered I had a ground wire that wasn't soldered and I used your close up of the wiring harness and fixed it thanks

  • @DominickChirchirillo
    @DominickChirchirillo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Les Paul Special specials are my favorite guitars. I bought my 1st Special in 1999.

    • @josem2558
      @josem2558 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yo he adquirido una, y ahora es mi preferida.tengo otras dos gibson.les paul.
      Pero esta guitarra me tiene enamorado, es la Special TV yellow.

  • @ckallaher
    @ckallaher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just got the Epiphone LP Special, which only comes in the TV yellow. This Gibson is now my dream guitar. So beautiful. Great review too. Now I’ll have to save up for both the Gibby and the Deluxe Reverb!

  • @allanb1402
    @allanb1402 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Probably one of the best and most thorough demos I've seen of this guitar, and your playing is a kick to listen to. Nice chops. Thanks for posting!

  • @bryancollins6796
    @bryancollins6796 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic guitar.! Simple, elegant, and raw all at once. The best 2 pickup P 90 guitar? Quite possibly!

  • @billydworrell8259
    @billydworrell8259 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a stunning piece of Mahogany, beautiful finish. I love the poker chip around the pick up selector. Thx for the clarification about the time frames and the double cut away vs the single cut away. Sounds great too. The P 90s sound both rich and crisp.

  • @Shred_The_Weapon
    @Shred_The_Weapon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know we’re not talking 15 minutes ago, but I have an interjection. In late winter 2002, my favorite act in the Hudson Valley where I’m from, Perfect Thyroid, performed their going-away gig. Their guitarist at the time, Joe Brooks, was slinging a single-cut solid body loaded with P90s. Joe is a metalhead, and I was blown away (as were my ears) at the searing, explosive tone he got out of that monster plugged into his arsenal (I didn’t try to ascertain the make of guitar or amp he had). Though that appearance was in February 2002 and I’m commenting in November 2023, I’d say it otherwise qualifies that P90s in a single-cut solid guitar like the LP Special may not lose their place. Not if a scorching metalhead can make it tick in the context of a ska fusion act like a Perfect Thyroid.

  • @antoonhermans8953
    @antoonhermans8953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have an 2011 gibson tribute lp with P 90's , great guitar , great sound , a keeper !

  • @lewismcnicholas2631
    @lewismcnicholas2631 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love mine - one of the few guitars that seems to have some mojo especially for the price

  • @kylekolanowski23
    @kylekolanowski23 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your videos! Quick note: you can measure depth (e.g. the pickup height) more precisely with your caliper! You do this by resting the butt end of the caliper on the pickup surface, and then opening it up so the depth gauge stretches downward until it contacts the guitar body. No need to squint with the ruler! You could even measure other things like nut depth, fret height, etc. this way if you wanted.

    • @kylekolanowski23
      @kylekolanowski23 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/users/shortsnlQZGM1X2bk?feature=share

  • @LtCore
    @LtCore ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 2020 Gibson Les Paul Special in Olive Drab. Easily one of my favorite guitars! Love your channel!

  • @Ryan-Hall
    @Ryan-Hall ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the tone , the Clean Sounds Where Really Serious and more better than a standard LP, really just loves them puppss, ty John and Zackb🤘

  • @nixternal
    @nixternal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I love that guitar. I need a P90 guitar in my life, and that color is screaming at me.

  • @ferox965
    @ferox965 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 2003 "junior special" used with a repaired neck. Has the normal bridge and belly cut. Love it. Goes perfectly with my Standard and Telecaster.

  • @arustydodge2111
    @arustydodge2111 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s some fine playing, JOHN!
    Absolutely love the bite of the P90’s through a Les Paul. You brought this bad boy to LIFE!!!
    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🎸⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @guitartim2128
    @guitartim2128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these even more than Les Pauls--- that is a Junior with a maple top and a slim neck. A friend has one ,which is the guitar I'm speaking of. Tried to buy it but no go...and I really understand it. Great video👍😍

  • @jakesmith4506
    @jakesmith4506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a 'JR' with P-90's is an incredible axe. Thanks for the cool presentation.

  • @DrJeebles
    @DrJeebles ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've always felt I could really dig a Special or a Junior. That one looks beautiful. If a person really felt they needed it they could add a compensated or adjustable bridge for intonation.

    • @chrisnealis4270
      @chrisnealis4270 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 2000 model year Gibson P90 Special. Mine came with a tunomatic bridge. Basically the same setup as anything LP. My neck also has mini-trapezoid inlays. I've never understood these versions without a standard bridge.

    • @DrJeebles
      @DrJeebles ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisnealis4270 That sounds pretty damn cool. I don't get it either. I think it used to be to save on cost. Now it's a matter of nostalgia, I guess.

    • @jeremywills9303
      @jeremywills9303 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrJeebles Part nostalgia, part cost savings, and marketing too. My 2004 double cut special has the tune o matic and that's what the new Beato signature is based off so they still do it if they want to. I think they went back to the wrap around tail pieces because people seem to want as close as possible as to what it would have had in the 50s.

  • @davegreeley
    @davegreeley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thumbs up like #367. I had a Worn Bourbin and found the Gibson finish wear real fast along edge with out binding. P90 are killer awesome.

  • @RandalSmith
    @RandalSmith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Les Paul Special Tribute in Cherry as well as an Epiphone LP Special in TV Yellow. P90’s are my favorite pickups. (Full disclosure, I work for Gibson.)

    • @alabruti440
      @alabruti440 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bonjour Randal,
      vous avez la TV Yellow et vous travaillez pour Gibson! Pouvez vous me dire comment vous avez réglé vos micros? Quelle hauteur par rapport aux cordes et par rapport à la table. Votre réponse m'aiderait beaucoup. Merci à vous.

  • @scottbrower9052
    @scottbrower9052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guitar & its Epiphone counterpart are the perfect argumement to buy the Epiphone.

  • @seanc.5310
    @seanc.5310 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own much more expensive Les Pauls and other guitars and my Gibson USA TV Yellow LP Special is my favorite instrument I own. I did upgrade to an adjustable wrap bridge but stock other than that

  • @Jaybo_Fett
    @Jaybo_Fett ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful Guitar ! My next choice for a Gibson LP...Red too...Nice Raw sound especially that Silky smoothe neck pickup

  • @MrBritrider
    @MrBritrider 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes! Vintage Cherry instead of that tired looking, everybody has one, TV Yeller.
    The Cherry ones sound the best too! 🤘🏽

  • @joshgray3581
    @joshgray3581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No joke I'm getting this exact same guitar tomorrow thank you reverb and ups man

  • @joshuataft5541
    @joshuataft5541 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rhnx for making this channel ❤️ I've gotten alot of enjoyment on days I'm in to much pain to do much else. .bless you guys 🦅🦅🙏

  • @onlyguitars
    @onlyguitars ปีที่แล้ว

    Best Gibson you can get for the money. This LP Special is a monster guitar. And currentr TV Ywllow I have noticed they have gorgeous wood grain. The earlier ones the color is not as transparent.

  • @Deuce_Dufresne
    @Deuce_Dufresne ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool. My ‘05 SG Classic with P90’s is my favorite guitar.

  • @waitaminute7257
    @waitaminute7257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds better than my LP Standard 60s lol!

  • @matthewbeebe344
    @matthewbeebe344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Music city bridges completely changed my Gibson junior and special they were awesome before hand but had a little room for improvement the Music City Bridges and locking post elevated them beyond belief

  • @DavidHBurkart
    @DavidHBurkart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No only still cool, but always the coolest...
    ...NEXT UP: Epi Special vs. Gibson Special???
    Yes, please

  • @hamiltweek
    @hamiltweek 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice 4example of p 90's and might i say you really have shown how good a tube screamer can light up an amp bonus good job. very cool

  • @Relayer6a
    @Relayer6a ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Need to play with the neck pickup rolled off a bit. The tone changes completely.

  • @ericheder777
    @ericheder777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoying your videos! Saved my pennies and got my TV yellow sp in '21 straight from the Gibby factory. Had to stake out the website at that time because availability was touch and go, but well worth every cent. My #1. Love the neck, the p90's, the slab, etc. It's a rock and roll machine.

  • @williamvelez6522
    @williamvelez6522 ปีที่แล้ว

    I truly like the sound of the p90s on the les Paul.. cool

  • @DeadHeadmusic69
    @DeadHeadmusic69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It sounds absolutely outstanding...

  • @garyeckel1656
    @garyeckel1656 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Blues Guitar, I also like the sound of an SG....after all the LesPaul Standard isnt the only guitar.

  • @BBQROCKSTAR178
    @BBQROCKSTAR178 ปีที่แล้ว

    John….very nice playing of a stellar guitar…..nothing better on the planet for my $

  • @TommySG1
    @TommySG1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man,
    I'm pretty new to your channel and I happen to have this very same axe I picked up new last year. The two things I changed on mine were the tailpiece and the tuners. The tailpiece I picked up via Faber is superior to this, it's very light but more importantly it's spaced up for a far better intonation while remaing a fixed wraparound. The intonation is spot on.
    The tuners which came with this model really just felt cheesy and the gear ratio was real low as well. I had a set of locking Schallers which made a direct replacement as well without drilling or any nonsense like that so it's indeed all reversable 🤟
    It's a fantastic guitar and the neck is indeed pretty chunky as well. Cool video and I dig your feeds man.
    Tommy ~

    • @PlayandTradeGuitars
      @PlayandTradeGuitars  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching, those sound like ideal upgrades for sure! I appreciate the info🍻

    • @BeantownToBigD
      @BeantownToBigD ปีที่แล้ว

      Which Faber - the Wraptonate or Tone Bar?

    • @TommySG1
      @TommySG1 ปีที่แล้ว

      ⁠@@BeantownToBigDwraparound.

  • @jetjaguar72
    @jetjaguar72 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Gibson LP special tribute. Incredible guitar.

  • @craig1474
    @craig1474 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not only did I sub & like, I am commenting and will eventually watch all the vids.

  • @jamestonguet1737
    @jamestonguet1737 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are magic , I have a CS '55 Special

  • @stratolestele7611
    @stratolestele7611 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mine always puts a smile on my face. I absolutely love that guitar!!

  • @mr.reelmedia
    @mr.reelmedia ปีที่แล้ว

    I need me some p90s. Really dig that guitar, was looking at the sg special but I might go this route instead.

  • @WindOnMyWings
    @WindOnMyWings 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You made it so clear, perfect review.

  • @toddflowers8052
    @toddflowers8052 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome demo and review....one of my favorite guitars that I own , I have one Gibson and two Epiphone's (including the bolt on Epi Special 1 that I told you about) keep up the good work !

  • @skye7690
    @skye7690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick answer to title: Yes! More than ever.

  • @ChrisShortyAllen
    @ChrisShortyAllen หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice.
    Cannot fathom why Gibson doesn't upgrade the tail to a modern style with intonation.

  • @jorgeya2036
    @jorgeya2036 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like I can always tell which guitars are best because you're playing is better on the good ones

  • @chrisnealis4270
    @chrisnealis4270 ปีที่แล้ว

    @PlayandTradeGuitars The dot inlay is in fact not standard on all years of the P90 Special. I have a 2000 model year and it came with mini-trap inlays. It was a very short run, and also has a standard bridge, not a wrap around. Funny enough, I have an '88 studio that has dot-inlays, not traps.

  • @genebrenner855
    @genebrenner855 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a Gibson Les Paul Special some years ago. Maybe 12 years ago. I sold it and I don't remember why.

  • @vincemincevince
    @vincemincevince 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i bought one of these yesterday i was surprised by the weight of the case

  • @kurttevan
    @kurttevan ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish they had this color on the epiphone version

  • @cmel714
    @cmel714 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always liked these guitars.....great review.

  • @mr1bienvenu1
    @mr1bienvenu1 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's my favorite Gibson guitar 🎸

  • @TwiceFivesUDX55
    @TwiceFivesUDX55 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds good! One of these days, perhaps......................

  • @donthewatcher8835
    @donthewatcher8835 ปีที่แล้ว

    John and his Groovy Riffs..... i got a 2017 Epi custom LP with seymore duncan P-rails
    p90 sound is really awesome thanks for your great Reviews

  • @clifflowe4398
    @clifflowe4398 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out standing guitar, love a p90 your vids are brilliant cl UK.

  • @s.ri.1020
    @s.ri.1020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the tone of this guitar. Wrap around bridge is this an noticeable issue with intonation?

  • @cmet8280
    @cmet8280 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still waiting for my white special tribute w/P90's from Sweetwater, ordered last June and supposed to arrive in April. I suspect that will be the last sub 1K guitar Gibson will ever make.

  • @MarshallAmpMan
    @MarshallAmpMan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice laddie! Well done mate!

  • @dustymillermusic
    @dustymillermusic ปีที่แล้ว

    P90 Les Pauls are the best great vid

  • @bryonkidder6199
    @bryonkidder6199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Les Paul Special us the best Les Paul Gibson ever produced...imo
    How's the Gibson Special compare to the Epiphone Special?

  • @MrTPF1
    @MrTPF1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those P90's sounded a lot less shrill than others I've heard, particularly the neck and the middle positions. My first LP was a Gibson LP Special with 490/498 humbuckers, and that guitar absolutely rocks. I clicked on your ZZounds link to see how much it was and nearly fell off my chair! About fifteen years ago, my LP Special was $600!!

  • @sebastiangomez5068
    @sebastiangomez5068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so how does it compare to the SG Special with the P90s? great channel btw.... cheers!

  • @blueeyephil
    @blueeyephil ปีที่แล้ว

    So basically a little bit more than a Les Paul Studio, interesting. I have a 65 Melody Maker that I put Lollar P90's in. Guess it's a poor mans Special but it's a 65 so different neck profile I'm sure. The Melody Maker has a lightning bridge. Wonder why they didn't use a compensated bridge for the Special. I've always loved a nice mahogany body. Bet I'd love a special.

  • @benallmark9671
    @benallmark9671 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely cool

  • @adamp6401
    @adamp6401 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this in tv yellow but I just feel the price is a bit ott given how stripped back they are. Like £200 less than a classic??? But 2-300 more than a studio? Not sure about that

  • @Journey-of-1000-Miles
    @Journey-of-1000-Miles ปีที่แล้ว

    My Les Paul Special, has a tunomatic bridge and stop-bar tailpiece. Strange

  • @stevebell204
    @stevebell204 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost 50k my fingers are now crossed. Lol

  • @myotheraccount2
    @myotheraccount2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the look of a Les Paul but got rid of mine because of that bump the top gives it and the body/neck angle. But this seems like the perfect LP with the P90's, a thinner body and neck parallel to the body. I'm just wondering how accurate the intonation can be with this bridge.

  • @briano.1503
    @briano.1503 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anything with P90'S is a winner in my book.

  • @user-nh2wt7xj1i
    @user-nh2wt7xj1i ปีที่แล้ว

    very helpful!

  • @sandyreece3004
    @sandyreece3004 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep you are a lp guy great sound

  • @whittlad
    @whittlad ปีที่แล้ว

    Anything with P90's is cool

  • @glenkepic3208
    @glenkepic3208 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can dig thiss,,,,looks like a Bob Marley sorta thing,
    me, Epi '20 LP Jr which i love. This and a JT55PTR (SG S) i've had for years,,,,i'm set.'
    btw,,,,,,ZZ is hit and miss....
    Bought the Jr from SW,,,,packed like a treasure and hasn;t needed anything, thank goodness.
    Get a chance to buy a IBG Epi Firebird as a 65 BD gift.
    Look and only ZZZZX has one. Buy it.
    Gets del'd and it's rattling in the outer box.
    I should have refeused it but hoped for the best
    Worked then didn't. Missed the return date.
    Got it fixed locally, jack, switch , br pup rewire, set up. It rules now, $180.00.
    Luckily the guitar was basically a gift.
    This wouldn't happened with SweetWater.

  • @fredrickriffel5845
    @fredrickriffel5845 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Les Paul all mahogany but. It has a carved top. A beautiful guitar. It's a 60s neck. Not sure what model it is. Would you happen to know?

  • @toddmoore2324
    @toddmoore2324 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet!

  • @markburrell8447
    @markburrell8447 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes

  • @captainkirk70
    @captainkirk70 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who does the pleking? Certainly not any of my Gibsons unfortunately.

  • @michaelyolch79
    @michaelyolch79 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what's sad? That Gibson doesn't release this guitar in the dark transparent blue that was used on the American Blues Hawk. That would be KILLER on this guitar! UGH! I have a red one...yawn.

  • @mangrangpordung8883
    @mangrangpordung8883 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still waiting for the giveaway sir ❤️

  • @mangrangpordung8883
    @mangrangpordung8883 ปีที่แล้ว

    Btw can you do a budget friendly amp review

  • @michaelaiello9525
    @michaelaiello9525 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cleans sounded muddier than I expected. Overall string articulation not what I was expecting either.

  • @joshuataft5541
    @joshuataft5541 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd adore one...same with a jr..I used to hate em until ni really nrealizednit was me as a guitar..that and an sg..thas me.. in. A nutshel..classic but weird and not as popular ad the flashier classmates who made more cash

  • @stephentool1316
    @stephentool1316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the neck have "shoulders"?

  • @joshgray3581
    @joshgray3581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My intonation was perfect had 2 high frets on the low E at the neck pickup but I fixed it

  • @stevemehanmusic
    @stevemehanmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Want one

  • @Joe_whatuknow
    @Joe_whatuknow ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know what happened to those Les Paul Special Tributes? They seem to be gone.

    • @PlayandTradeGuitars
      @PlayandTradeGuitars  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea unfortunately they're gone! No Gibsons under $1k anymore

  • @skye7690
    @skye7690 ปีที่แล้ว

    You love the 50’s neck? I just ordered one of these online and was worried about the neck being too thick to play comfortably. And what were the ohms on those P90’s i missed that.

    • @PlayandTradeGuitars
      @PlayandTradeGuitars  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I love the 50s necks, I'll have to rewatch for the ohms. Thanks for watching!

  • @tedrobinson3802
    @tedrobinson3802 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny how years ago everyone just had to have the thinnest neck they could find. Now all the kids want the thick or baseball bat necks.

  • @hikupmusicofficial
    @hikupmusicofficial ปีที่แล้ว

    compaired to the epiphone one how is it

  • @adamp6401
    @adamp6401 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you compared this with the Epiphone versions? I tried an Epiphone but found the neck too sticky. Is the gibson a similar feel?

    • @PlayandTradeGuitars
      @PlayandTradeGuitars  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting usually to me the Poly finish on an Epiphone feels smoother than the slight sticky feel of nitro (not to be overblown or exaggerated) on the Gibson. Not relevant to this guitar, but I've also rediscovered how much I like the feel of satin nitro. We demo'd the Epiphone, great guitar: th-cam.com/video/62tdI4ICNg8/w-d-xo.html
      Thanks for watching!

  • @miahconnell23
    @miahconnell23 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s under the pick-guard ? Does it hide any routing or anything ?

    • @PlayandTradeGuitars
      @PlayandTradeGuitars  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it's just straight into the mahogany, thanks for watching!

    • @miahconnell23
      @miahconnell23 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PlayandTradeGuitars thanks for responding 🙏😊 so, a person could remove the pick-guard, and the only thing blemishing the nice mahogany would be the screwholes created just for the pick-guard ? I find that really good to know. I-myself-would consider applying a dense high gloss paint to just only the top-- if I bought the walnut finish, I’d add high-gloss black to only the front so it’d match the front and sides of the headstock (black on top, wood-coulour sides and back). If it’s only a couple screw-holes to fill, that gives a nice unmarred space for a person to paint as he/she likes. Or a silver-sparkle drum-shell layer on only the front / top and then clear-coat on top of that… (similar to Gretsch silver jet)