What is Auro 3D? | How does Auro 3D work?
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- There are a lot of premium sound formats such as Dolby Atmos and DTS:X. They all claim to have the best sound possible, but is this true? In this video I explain what Auro 3D surround sound is and why I believe it to be superior to Dolby's and DTS's surround sound formats. Hopefully at the end of this I will have answered the Auro 3D vs Dolby Atmos or Auro 3D vs DTSX questions for you.
Auro Website which has the locations of all of the theaters equipped with Auro 3D surround sound across the world.
www.auro-3d.com/
Link to all Regal Cinemas in the US that have Auro 3D installed
www.regmovies....
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This was extremely informative! Thanks so much!
Great summary. As a 35+ year audiophile, our family is addicted to listening to ANY source in immersive sound with Auro 3D selected using our McIntosh MX123 AV Processor. It's just that good over Atmos or DTS:X. Whether it's 2 channel audio being upmixed, movie watching, gaming, or hi resolution audio being streamed from Apple or Amazon music (even when encoded with Atmos), selecting the immersive audio format using Auro 3D is just jaw dropping.
Hi, I just purchased a pair of Totem Sttaf speakers and one Totem Mite Centre + Mirage Omni S10 sub. I am wondering if its worth spending more to get Auro 3D for someone with 3.1 setup like me?
Not with a 3.1 setup my friend. Auro 3D for immersive listening is the objective where you have a bed layer of speakers (such as 5.1 or 7.1) and a height layer of speakers (4 or more heights). We have a 7.6.2 system...Seven bed speakers; 6 height speakers; and 2 subs. Hope this helps.@@Airavida
@@jb.2986 yes this helps a great deal, thank you!
Great video and also a good explanation! I'm from Europe (The Netherlands) and for me, Auro gives the most natural and lifelike sound because of the horizantel layers of speakers. Even an Atmos or dts:x soundtrack sounds better with an Auro setup. Keep up the great work!
That's not what I've found. Auro's height speaker placement just makes the sound taller. Their mono VOG speaker causes hot spotting as overhead pans only come from one small area of the ceiling. A good Dolby Atmos track with proper 3D objects is much more immersive.
Hi Good video presentation.2018 onwards Denon & Marantz models have inbuilt Auro3d feature . No need to pay separate 199$ .I have Auro3d 10.2 HT setup . It sounds great ,also the the other formats Dolby Atmos & DTS X too sound nice in this speaker layout.
Well done very professionally done... Extremely informative...
And now Lucky for me I just picked up an Denon x8500h
Receiver with Auro 3D.
Cant wait to set up 🤜🤛😊
Let me know what you think between Auro, Dolby and DTS!
I have had Auro3D for a few years now and I am extremely happy, great presentation by the way.
Thank you!
DTS HD MA - IMAX infact uses multiple layers (more that 3). And this happens by combining and redirecting parts of the effects (3D object based sounds) in other speakers from 1st layer, so can place in 3D space even better and precise . So a thunder can be very far, while the helicopter is a little bit closer. Those effects are heard "outside" the room ( layer 1 not involved) , but the rain is poring on the ☔ nearby the listener meanwhile the three branches are heard closer that the chopper, but far than the umbrella (layer 1 involved)
In Aquaman, Mortal Engineer or 1000 faces of Dunjia (special this chinese movie) . Can be heard multiple layers. This applies even to layer 1, where sound are far, in the front, outside the room, some are more closer ( side speakers involved ) and other effects nearby me ( sides and rear-sides involved) . In Aquaman i swear i hear drops of water hitting the "marble" floor in my room in left, but the effect is lower in right where i have carpet.
7.1.2 IMAX Certificate sound system and Optoma 3D projector.
That's why exist IMAX sound systems also 8 lossless layer1 channels, and that's why it's so vital to have IMAX and 7.1.x 👍...
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Terrific video. Explanations east to understand. clear. Interesting there are so many theatres with it. Some AVR's that support it or an be upgrade to..yet there is no media sold in N. America...for now. TechnoDad had to order his Auro 3D blurays from the UK and Germany. :) And those were standard bluray...not 4k. Till there is media readily avaiilable in North America,..this format isn't even worth worrying thinking about...
Good video. I am also having the same opinion. Auro 3D gives the Best immersive sound experience with 3 Layer sound system. Auro 11.1 is the pioneer in 3 D sound.
Very interesting video. Thanks ;-) I have a Home-Cinema with a Denon. Auro 3D really sounds GREAT. It gives an amazing sensation you are really "IN" the action. It's worth hearing: a comparison with other formats is very interesting too. Personnaly, i find Auro the best.
Thanks, Isaac. I have an Anthem AVM 90 and am lamenting that it does not have auro 3d nor DTS X pro.
your videos are well produced. you serve more views!
Thanks. ! Great information!
Thanks for the video. I'm curious though to hear the difference between an 11.1 Auro 3d with NO accoustical setup and a 7.2 DTS setup with a proper accoustical layout. I imagine that they would sound comparable. I'm convinced proper accoustics is as important ( if not more important ) to an immersive sound than just adding a lot of speakers.
Beyond teaching us all something what else are you doing with these skills?
What?
@@MovieUniversity do you formally teach, are you a filmmaker, do you install home theaters? How are these obvious talents being used outside TH-cam?
Hi, what is the underlying audio format for Auro3D ?
e.g. Atmos is encoded in Dolby TrueHD streams. DTS-X is encoded in DTS-HD streams. What about Auro3D ?
That's a great question. I'm not sure. I've reached out to Auro a couple of times over the years to do an interview and have yet to get any replies. Ever.
is is virtual dsp generated or do you have to buy media recorded in auro 3d? How many speakers minimum do you physically have to have installed? Thx
You need minimum 13 speakers installed.
The product will need to be mixed in Auro 3D for proper playback.
DTS X & Dolby atmos are in smartphones now. Can they deliver spacial sound from height and back side via headphones?
Never heard of “Auro 3D”
Auro3D is definitely not superior to a quality Dolby Atmos mix. Atmos, when encoded correctly and not a fixed print-out (I'm talking to YOU, Disney!), can expand to 24.1.10 discrete speaker positions. The only Auro product that can possibly compete with Atmos is AuroMAX, but that is not available in consumer products.
Please make more videos on Auro 3D.
What would you like to know about it? I feel like I explained it in great detail
Yes, explanation about it's working was perfect. That's why I subscribed your channel. I also have the same opinion about Auro 3D. More immersive sound system. BUT WHY NOT MANY FILMS ARE RELEASED IN THIS FORMAT. Please make a VIDEO.
Hey Isaac. Long time lurker, first time commenter as they say. Sorry for the wall of text :D
I've never heard of Auro, and I'm not dismissing the system at all, but I'm interested in your input on a couple of things:
First, since most movies are not recorded/produced/aired in Auro, how can a theater with the Auro system ever give a better experience than a theater with the DTS or Atmos system that the movie's soundtrack is specifically coded to? The audio has been specifically designed to come from their respective hardware, so changing over to Auro just means it's a lot of conversion nonsense which cannot be an improvement. Just like up-scaling a DVD to 4K doesn't make it look any better, re-coding one sound system on the fly to output in another sound system can never produce perfect results. Sure, those four movies a year (or whatever) that are released in Auro can probably benefit, but for the rest of them this doesn't compute.
Second, you don't talk about the fact that both Dolby Atmos and DTS: X are generally 11.1/2 (or rather 7.1/2.4) systems, just like the Auro, so I fail to see how there's any more immersion. That Auro chooses to install their. +4s as wall mounted next to the ceiling, whereas Dolby and DTS choose to have them ceiling mounted is irrelevant.
Last and most importantly, you also don't talk about the fact that these systems aren't actually about the speakers, and they even work (just not as beautifully) on 5.1 systems. These systems are all about the sound profile - namely the key difference that sound is encoded as objects in 3D space, not as channels. So a point of sound that moves diagonally from the bottom right front up to the top left back will do so regardless of how many speakers there are (generally dozens, in theaters) or where exactly they're placed. :)
Incidentally, most all general theater speakers are wall mounted considerably higher than ear level (for obvious convenience reasons) with some 15-30° downward tilt, so in essence they are all "incorrectly" placed with regards to the puritan 7.1.4 or 11.1 setup. I've never been in an Auro theater, but I seriously doubt they've put their channels in ear level anymore than other theaters do, since that requires building bigger rooms and usually a lot of wasted space that could be better spent on more seats.
If they do indeed do that, I can accept that there is fractionally better immersion, but that simply comes from the speaker placement, rather than the sound system behind it, and could be achieved in the same way by "properly" placing the 4/6 main channels of Dolby/DTS at ear level :)
Árni Viðar Björgvinsson Most movies are also recorded in Auro 3D. Also in Auromax wich is also object based just as Atmos and dts:X.
Hi, Arni,
Great questions. I’m going to try and answer in the best way I can so please do not take the answers as condescending. I looked some stuff up for you not to say that I’m right and you’re wrong but simply to show you how I came upon my conclusions in addition to my own experiences with Auro.
1) Most movies are NOT recorded in surround per the previous persons comment. There are only a couple of microphones kept on sets with almost all audio for surround sound formats added afterward. Same with Auro. The movie is sent to the Auro labs with the encoded 5.1 track from the movie studio. From there the sound engineers at Auro will add the appropriate amount of audio to make it suitable for Auro 3D. Begin watching at the 19-minute mark where Wilfred himself tells a bit of how they do this process
th-cam.com/video/6RjP-TDMxjA/w-d-xo.html
2) Since I’ve never worked at Auro I can’t tell you the specifics of how exactly the sound conversion works through Auro Matics. I was skeptical at first, but when I looked up user videos on TH-cam and various other forums I found there are quite a few people that believe in the conversion from DTS/Dolby to Auro sounding better.
3) Not sure where you’re getting that DTS:X or Dolby Atmos are typically 11.1 etc. Even on Dolby speaker setup guide they don’t show this. There highest configuration is a 9.1.6 with the 9 speakers at ear level and the six directly above the viewers, creating a sound gap.
www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/speaker-setup/index.html
www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/cinema/dolby-atmos.html
This is not to say Atmos or X are bad. They are of course a great step forward in sound, just not as good as Auro 3D in my experience. While DTS claims “DTS:X doesn’t require any specific speaker layout, you can arrange your home theater system however you want” you and I both know they’re like Dolby. Speakers at ear level and on the ceiling. Again, creating a sound gap unlike Auro. dts.com/dtsx
4) You say “a point of sound that moves diagonally from the bottom right front up to the top left back will do so regardless of how many speakers there are or where exactly they're placed.” This is true to an extent. Yes, the sound will still happen but it’s the sound reflections inside your ear that can tell if is sounds like its on the Z axis versus the X and Y. By the logic of your statement I could use 4.0 speakers and still hear a sound moving from the back left to top right from the simple fact that the sound effect is moving left to right and some tricks can be done to make the audio louder or quieter to mimic the effect of the moving object.
5) You are correct in assuming that Auro doesn’t put their speakers at ear level. However, the first layer is lowered to allow space for the first height layer. Check out this photo of a theater that has it equipped (with the lights on! Was so hard to find a picture with the lights on for you.)
www.digitalavmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/auro-11_1-3.jpg
Versus AMC’s Dolby Cinema which as the speakers far too high on the sides
www.horsingaroundinla.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Dolby-Cinema-at-AMC-Prime-Screen.jpeg
6) In my opinion DTS and Dolby can’t even touch the same level of immersion as Auro can. However, that’s my opinion. You are correct in saying that it’s really about having more speakers and not the sound system itself. True, however, as I stated in the video, Dolby and DTS cheat you by not having that in between layer of audio and branding themselves as “the best” audio in immersion. Auro simply includes that extra layer of sound making it sound better. The Auro inventor simply created something other hadn’t thought of and the result is awesome.
Please do keep in mind my videos are not designed to be the end all in answering all the questions people have. I simply find a few things I think most people will find of interest and push that info out. I’ve come to find people hate long videos on TH-cam, so I try to cram as much as a I can into each of these educational ones. I’ve spent a lot of time in ignorance when it comes to the movie industry and my aim is to arm people with some knowledge quick and easy versus doing tons of Google and TH-cam searches like I’ve done over the years. I even cut some stuff out in the editing process for the sake of time (really, peoples attention time span).
I hope this helps clear things up and I hope you continue to stay and ‘lurk’ around as my channel grows. I appreciate the comment! =D
-Isaac
It is very interesting about everything that you are asking, but simply put wouldn't it be easier just to listen to Auro3D and get your impression from there. I got an Atmos receiver where it first hit the street, set up my family room for it. Heard about Auro3D a few years ago, thought it was worth checking it out. Bought an Auro3D receiver, went out on a limb and changed my speaker layout for Auro3D and comes to find out it outranks Atmos. My whole collection of movies are now being played with Auro3D upmixing and everyone who hears any movie, TV show, sports events on my system is blown away. Check it out it will blow you away too.
@@MovieUniversity Agreed.... However,
If you wish to experience the full compliment of Auro 3D at the home, you need a minimum of 12 ft ceiling height..... This will allow you to set a comfortable distance between speaker layers based on your setup...
1. Seating distance from the screen, side walls and rear.
2. Seating layers by rows... Make the adjust to the speakers based on the listening position for that row....
3. The size of the room will dictate the speaker configuration... 10.1, 11.1 or 13.1 for Auro 3D....
Everyone on the thread have great points... However, the volume of the room must be considered for Auro 3D.... Especially, if utilizing the VOG (Voice of God Channel)....
Best thing to do is ignore the noise and avoid Atmos, DTS-X and Auro3D until the water clears and there is one left standing. Mixes for movies at home are seldom done right in the first place, so why spend all the extra money and effort when the technology is not fully supported.
A center height or VOG channel won’t work with DTSX and atmos content, only native auro3D. However will that channel work when upmixing atmos and dtsX content with auromatic?
This is a good question. I've actually been thinking about doing another Auro 3D video. I'll reach out to the company and see if they'll be willing to grant and interview.
Doesn’t cinemark use auro 3D sound for the TSX certified cinemark XD? Or what speakers do they use for that?
So let me get this straight, 2 side surrounds, 2 centers, top and bottom
4 heights sides or atmos and one or multiple above middle speakers????????
Are there any auro 3D mixes on disks out there
Yes, there are some that can be ordered from the UK, I have Red Tails and Pixels based on Auro3D. But the beauty of Auro3D is that it will up-convert your movies into the Auro3D format and you will be very impressed with it. Auro3D when setup correctly will blow you away, I love putting in some of my older Bluray movies and experience them in this format. I have the Marantz receiver with a separate amp using Auro3D 10.1 configuration. Everyone that comes over to watch a game or UFC fight always say this system is just fantastic, not to mention how great the movies sound .
Their are a few Auro 3D music Blu Ray disc on amazon, I bought two of them and they sound amazing...
@@waynegrant9821 Dark Tower, Jumanji, Spider Man Homecoming and Passanger (Chris Pratt & Jennifer Lawrence) in Auro3D.
Odd that these movies are made here in the US for the most part and we cannot find Auro-3D media. I have a few I have managed to acquire but that is not right, just like a lot of these movies made here in the states come out in other countries first. There is some BS going on here.
Auro 3d is not an American technology. The company acquires the movies from US studios and the remixes into Auro 3D in Germany since that’s where they’re based.
Can I use more then 5.1 speackers in yamaha rxv 485 5.1 channels
What do you mean?
$200 for a software update? I'd give 'em a kick up the arse..
What is 4dx
4dx refers to the "fourth" dimension. It's just a fancy way of theaters adding chairs that react to activity on screen, smoke when appropriate, mist and a few other little things to make the movie feel more real.
Mute the background music man. The video was explicative, but I have stopped watching because the background music was TOO loud.
Can this guy pronounce Atmos correctly