Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes Review | 45 Hours Later | Backlog Battle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes is a premium Dynasty Warriors style action game that borrows so much from its tactical RPG sibling and blends it with an easy to pick up and play style that's perfect for action game fans or gamers wanting to experience Fodlan together via co-op! Here's my spoiler-free review of this incredible game!
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0:00 - Intro
2:06 - Gameplay
6:28 - Presentation + Pacing
9:00 - Story + Can you start with this game?
13:08 - Closing
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I have nothing but respect for the Warriors games. It would be SO EASY for them to have just made glorified mashy beat em ups and called it a day and probably still sold rather well, but the fact that they go so far to make each one feel like an extension of or directly related thing is something I'm happy they challenge themselves to do. I haven't even played Three Houses and I think this game is incredibly interesting. Marrying as much of the strategy elements of Fire Emblem to what Warriors games are known for just makes so much sense for this genre.
YMMV with Warriors games usually as some get more love than others, hence the “Premium” moniker I made, so I get the reluctance for many to get into them. But it’s a rare breed of game that lets you experience the feeling of being in large scale battles. And mixed with the right IPs, it shines!
@@BacklogBattle Is Pirate Warriors 4 also considered a Premium Warriors title? Because I absolutely love the combat options in that game. The freedom is insane.
@@Gailardia_Galan I actually don’t consider it as one as it’s too similar to the other Warriors games, with very little differences.
My head canon is Three House is a tactics game because you control Byleth who is cold, calculating, a strategist. And then in Three Hopes we occupy Shez, who is frankly a run-in-and-figure-it-out type, hence Warriors genre
That's a good head canon to have, actually!
This game went above and beyond my expectations in every way. I was pleasantly surprised on all fronts.
Once I played the demo, I knew it was going to be incredible!
I haven't played Three Houses, I just read through the story summaries (and stumbled into some fanfiction lol), but Three Hopes has still piqued my interest! I'm glad there's a demo, now all I need is more free time xD
It's a very generous demo! You'll get to do a lot with it to give you an idea of how the full game will play!
9:50 I definitely feel it helps that Koei Tecmo actually helped with the original Three Houses
Oh boy I'm gonna gush about this so be prepared for another big massive wall of text I guess lol. This game I was very very excited for and I'm very happy to say that the excitement was well worth it. Not only did I get to resspend time with the characters from 3 houses again but also the Warriors format from the demo was just so good. You can switch characters using the adjective system and make very very fun combos, The minute Byleth shows up at a certain point, they are scary to the point of them officially being the game's Lu Bu, and the combat is just a blast to play. I was a bit skeptical when I found out that we were gonna get a new avatar character and not have Byleth/Beleth( The name of the female version that I've been using for quite some time lol) as the protagonist and their design I have heard that some people did not like it, especially with a friend. However overtime we realize that Shez is not a bad avatar, instead we do get a character that has a personality, goals and A VOICE!!! What makes it even better is this transfers over to even Byleth and Beleth meaning once again much like the first Fire emblem Warriors, the avatars can freaking speak! I was so happy that it ends up making me and even a good chunk of my friends like Shez and further love Byleth and Beleth. And speaking of that the reason for that is thank God this game has an English dub now I know that the persona 5 striker's Warriors game has a dub but this is very very important because in previous Warriors titles, The company had a weird habit of only having Japanese voices for a very very long time whether it was through there there mainline series of samurai Warriors and dynasty Warriors with their Empire titles and with samurai Warriors in their main game titles including spirit of Sanada or even in their collaboration titles like One Piece. It was just so annoying to try to play a Warriors game only to realize it just has a Japanese dub and there's no dub at all meaning you have to try to stop the battle and read what the characters are saying in the battlefield. But they've been doing a bit better with dogs as of late and of late and I'm just happy that in the case of 3 Hopes they're able to get every single voice actor from the game 3 houses back, including Edelgard's VA Tara Plat as I can make SO MANY DW7 and 8 jokes and be happy and Ferdinand's voice actor who thanks to recent events I am especially happy that he pulled his great role off with a Bang. As for the story itself I do love the fact that you have so much replay ability in your hands and since we're doing the retelling route it does end up giving you a lot more information that the main game didn't do and it even further enhances the experience of why I love 3 houses so much and why it is my favorite fire emblem in the series. I will admit that you will feel drained out but if you've played 3 houses before this is nothing and all I can recommend to new players is take your time. That holds true for even 3 houses if this game ends up making you wanna play that like that. It's not a duology that you have to rush. Also I should be complaining about the whole clone's situation but considering that in the original game you can make any character you want and turn them into an indestructible thing that they're not supposed to be and that's really the fun of 3 houses I'm not gonna say that here because I don't really care because it plays like a great marriage of the Warriors style with the 3 houses style that it doesn't matter. Finally there's the fact that there are some things that you may miss in your 1st play through which which happened to me however dudever due to certain things much like 3 houses that I will not spoil you can do things over to try to get the stuff that you missed previously and since this is a Warriors game it's not gonna take as long so again take your time. Overall in my honest opinion they have been knocking it out of the park with this one from the story to the characters to even the combat everything about this game is like a nice little bow that's wrapped up and considering that this has been getting a lot of positive reviews despite being a Warriors game is very impressive. Much like 3 houses I got like 2 routes that I have to go through as of me writing this I'm just about done with the black eagles route but I did notice some things I may have missed so I will go back and this was a very positive and awesome review Alex! And before I forget happy 4th of July and awesome you like Bernadetta and Hilda too!!!!
I think the Ashen Demon being this game's Lu Bu is a great way to put it! Glad to see you've been enjoying the game! It's so, so good for a Warriors game!
@@BacklogBattle And honestly I'm currently talking with a friend right now and we both agree that if KT can just take what works in this game and put it into dynasty Warriors and samurai Warriors then I am pretty sure both of those series can come back from their awful ruts maybe samurai Warriors can but I'm not sure about dynasty Warriors thanks to 9 and 9 empires lol.
Oh man the warriors games have come a long way. All the recent licensed entries where amazing. Can't wait to pick this one up for my favourite fire emblem game.
I’m still playing it! I can’t peel myself off of it! I’m still learning how to build different characters and classes
I did not expect to enjoy this game so much.
It feels surprisingly... Fire Emblem-ey, if that makes sense.
It totally makes sense! It's even more Fire Emblem that the original Fire Emblem Warriors! And as I said in the video, the two games feed into each other, making us want to revisit Three Houses and Three Hopes and vice versa! Great game all around!
Great review. Absolutely love this game. Enjoyed persona strikers and age of calamity but this has been the best adaptation yet for me. It's nice to be in that world with those characters all over again with a completely fresh spin but enough familiarity to feel the same emotions playing.
Familiarity does help, but I think it's a perfectly solid way to get introduced to the games! I've seen at least one commenter here who started with Three Hopes and they love the characters already!
@@BacklogBattle you could definitely enjoy this standalone without three houses but I can imagine people would enjoy the world and characters so much they might want to dive into 3 houses if you have never experienced that. Either way, this is how games should be made. All on the cartridge, and hours upon hours of great content 👌
Mate, this review was so good! You just convinced me to pick up this game, thank you!
Personally the best way I could describe both games is think of them as two sides at the same coin. As there's just so many ways to describe how each of the games are complementary of each other. Honestly you could look at Three Houses and Three Hopes as the devs from each hoping to help influence the other about how they could improve their own styles of games. The warriors team has been trying to show the series can tell proper action RPG style storytelling and have it done right. While intelligence systems has gotten a lot of ideas about how they can try new ideas out for Fire Emblem.
Look in all honesty this is a positive thing for both series because ir helps introduce new fans to each while helping the devs of each improve
Eloquently said! I'm enamored at what both devs are able to do with this world!
Nice review again. As i said im not into Warrior games but im downloading the demo right now. The only reason for me to play would be only so i can spend time with my favorite students again. Let’s see if the demo changes my mind about the gameplay. I couldn’t play through Strikers because i was bored every second i wasn’t in a cut scene but Three Hopes does look more interesting.
Awesome! When you do, know that the classes and weapons do alter the properties of the combos. There’s a lot of hidden depth in what seems like a regular Warriors game, and you will really need to be tactical when sending off characters to different locations to get the best rating for each map! Also a great two player co-op game!
As a person that is not generally a big warriors fan, but did extremely enjoy persona strikers and hearing you say this is up to that level has me intrigued.
There’s a demo you can try out!
Listening to this while I’m playing the game lol. Only got 20+ hours in but I’ve been addicted. Once I finished a route I’ll start AINI.
Don’t you just want to play all the routes? 😅
I actually do have a question for you regarding the combat specifically:
One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3/4 is top of Warriors combat for me due to the amount of options it says (combos, air combos, specials, supers, install supers, etc) How does Three Hopes compare in that regard?
The overall game does look really fun.
Good question! It’s very different. In One Piece, the characters themselves determine the move sets and you can add special attacks and the like to try and customize their play style.
Three Hopes on the other hand is a bit less freeing than that, particularly because it’s based off of Fire Emblem. Instead of different play styles per character, it’s done via what class you have assigned each, so there will be similarities. This also means that classes have specific weapon skills.
That being said, you can also pair two characters together to share skills between each, as they play as one person! And each weapon actually alters the damage calculations quite a bit, giving you the nuanced equipment considerations you’d find in full RPGs.
The long and short of it is that One Piece, much like other Warriors games, focuses on a lot quicker pick up and play gameplay and configuration. Whereas in Three Hopes, you have to spend some time to spec people into the class that you want to play as, and the skill ceiling to pull off some moves might be higher due to how the gameplay is structured around that.
Regarding the ability to tell the other people you control what to do, that has been a common feature in musou titles as of late and it has a similar system to the FE weapon triangle in that certain types of weapons are more powerful against others so I wouldn't say that is unquie to this musou tiitle.
Regarding the question I have which is probably gonna be a long one. (and you might not be able to answer it since it is a heavy musou focused question)
It is to do with the feel and the weapons of each character in the game. Taking back time to the last musou title with it being the latest Samurai Warriors entry. While it was fun to play to musou fans there was a big issue in the clone weapons. You would get a new character with taking Nagamasa Azai for this example and while he had a cool design, he had the same katana moveset as a main character that you have been already using which brought you to question what was the point in using him? Where I am going with this is does the characters in Three Hopes all have an unique moveset, weapon that makes them all feel unique in what they bring to the table or do you just have the basics types of units with them all functioning similar like a heavy unit from one house not having much difference to the same type of unit from a different house.
While it might be the case that you have some semblance of control in previous Warriors games, at least from what I saw in Samurai Warriors 5, it's not similar at all with how Three Hopes one does it, where you have full reign of the map and you're able to tell people to target non-officer soldiers like specific Gate Captains or head to specific locations without any additional commands.
That being said, the common knowledge from the community outside of Warriors fans is that there are no ways to control troops in this specific manner, so I don't think making that statement is off base at all. As far as the weapon triangle is concerned, I am aware of its existence in other Warriors titles, but it bears mentioning because it's a key feature in Fire Emblem. My goal for mentioning these concepts is solely targeted at Fire Emblem fans who are reluctant in trying out a real-time action game due to their bad experiences in other turn-based games turned action games like Final Fantasy XV. "We've all been there, so I feel for you," as I said in the video.
To your question, each weapon has different random properties designated to each. But as you might've surmised, the attacks are practically the same regardless of character. In other words, a lot of the customization aspects for the weapons and the class are tied to the numerical calculations happening in the background and not necessarily the moment to moment action onscreen. Unfortunately, I cannot confirm if different sizes of characters affect the speed of a specific classes' attacks as I chose a House (Black Eagles) that doesn't have a beefy character. For instance, the second tier of axe wielding classes are a bit slower to move and attack, by comparison.
I agree with all you said. I’ve never played any Fire Emblem series but this really did it for me. I fell in love with the characters in the Golden Deer house and I’m now on my second playthrough with the Blue Lions.
Ps: what’s the music @9:00? I really like it.
And to think that you even have Three Houses waiting in the wings, should you want to experience more from the same characters!
To your other question, the song's name is One Last Thing and it's from the Three Hopes OST!
Great video! I’m so glad I picked up the demo and then the game. Did a complete 180 on it.
Thank you! That's good to hear! What do you think turned you around on the game?
@@BacklogBattle I have questioned that a lot. I think there are a few things that stood out to me. 1.) They nailed the overall feeling of the game being an extension of FE3H world. 2.) The downtime in the camp broke up gameplay in a meaningful way and kept it from getting stale for me. 3.) It felt like there was more emphasis on the strategy having a turn based feel where I felt like I was getting a bit of both worlds. I played AoC co-op for the story as I’m a big Zelda fan but the gameplay got monotonous even playing co-op. They avoided that for me in this one, it felt pretty seamless.
Best Omega Force game yet, and probably the has most replayability so far.
I’m still playing the game! It’s gonna be tough to peel away from this when new games come!
@@BacklogBattle for sure!! It feels like the rest of this year suddenly became stacked.
Having so many talented story tellers and game creators is this generation's blessing; on the other hand, having neither money nor time to experience those stories and play those games is our curse.
That MUSIC! As the kids call it… it’s a bop!
RIGHT?!
im actually hoping for warrior games for long times..becouse how much i want to explore empire, kingdom and federation place..with of coures fighting on big map so i can see better picture then tactical..and the Story is kinda..well to me personally i feel disappoint at some of it..and im not expecting Claude route to be like that like FR?!. and Azure glem is once again my favorite like Blue is definitely my favorite color becouse hope i love knight "Bias" an all but i feel good seeing Dimitri not having PTSD for saving the kingdom overall is good games
I've played the first Warriors game and had a fun time, but it was never something that I went back and played again. I got Three Hopes on the same day I got my PS5 and since the release date, I haven't able to put Three Hopes down and play the $600 new console and games for it, aka Elden Ring lol. Took me 40+ hours to beat Golden Wildfire route along side playing it with my brother with split screen co-op. Now I'm on a Scarlet Blaze route run on Hard by myself. I don't play many Warrior's games, but this one has tied me in and isn't letting me go XD
It’s so addicting! Lots of really good combinations of characters and classes to make!
@@BacklogBattle BTW Dancer class in my opinion is extremely overpowered and fun to play. I have my Shez as one XD
@@MrApplefan44 oh you bet I looked up how to get that!
I honestly loved this gameplay style with Fire Emblem, like more than main series FE gameplay lol. I have some issues with the endings of every route, but this really could have been some half-assed coat of paint game and it wasn't at all. It felt SO much like 3H.
*SPOILERS* (BTW I've only played Golden Wildfire because I find it hard to betray my favorite characters lol)I love this game and it's definitely my favorite Warriors game, P5S being a very close second, but it is definitely not without it's issues. Gameplay is amazing, easily the best in a warriors game, the Npcs even help you which is a first in Warriors games lol. But sadly there are so many clones, I would've preferred if they just cut the church members and gave everyone mostly unique movesets. I mean, you can only use 4 characters at a time and most people probably used the students, Byleth and new characters anyway. The Supports are good, not Three Houses/Awakening good but miles better than Fates. I was happy to see Marianne and Bernadetta interact. Story is actually good for a Warriors game, it's better than Age Of Calamity but worse than P5S, the ending really leaves you hanging though. Music is great as usual for Warriors/Fire Emblem game. I would have preferred a crossover of Radiant Dawn, Sacred Stones, and Three Houses. But this is honestly still a great game. I'm kinda hoping we'll get Radiant Dawn Dlc though it isn't likely at all.
Thanks for sharing! If anything, I see this as a genuinely good first attempt at truly trying to embody the spirit of the series, and something that can serve as an intersection between fans of either style of games!
@@BacklogBattle Yes, I definitely think the first FE Warriors was a huge mistake with half the roster being generic lords & Fates royals. I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone that hasn't played Three Houses. I feel like it would completely ruin the story of it.
I am a warrior game fan but when I first tried the demo I didn’t like the game at all.
Now after putting 100 hours finishing three houses I gave the demo another go and the feeling is so different and I’m gonna pick up the full game.
Question here: you mentioned the three house save will get carried over right? Since I started the demo before three house I already had a save in place, should I restart from beginning again when I got the full game?
Thee Hopes is way better than it has any right to be (not a huge fan of Warriors games) and its demo convinced me to get it. The takeaway? Two of them:
1. This game is awesome
2. Demos move copies
Demos can either really help or might convince people to not buy as well. Someone intrigued that may have ordered the game could play the demo figure out it's not for them and then never buy. I've been in both camps personally for different games. I think generally though it helps me buy especially if it's a demo similar to dragon quest where you get hours of game.
The demo definitely made me confident that the final game would deliver, and it does!
It's a shame you didn't play the Blue Lions in Three Houses yet, because they have the most well-written story of the three! Though Three Hopes does address a lot of the issues with the other two houses so far, and while the new Blue Lions route doesn't quite match up to the original, it instead explores some of the hidden lore surrounding the Holy Kingdom of Faerghus.
For sure, and that's why I love Three Hopes. It's a complimentary product that helps reinforce the qualities of the original. Both games feed into themselves like an infinite loop, and it's the best way to make games like these imo!
@ "Side Dish" spin off games, I 'll say I like Age of Calamity a hell of alot more than Breath of the Wild, it was easily the better game. Although for Three Hopes I'm not quite sure which I would say is better, the spin off vs the source material. Three Hopes feels like a Fire Emblem game, like a natural evolution of the base game style. It even makes a bit more sense as games where armies are clashing that there is thousands of dudes in the field vs like 10 units that you get in the tactics format games.
It’s definitely an interesting question to ask. I love both for very different reasons, but there are overlaps between the two, which include gameplay features
i dropped the demo, too much info at me and button mashing... but now tempted to go back again. even if dropped 3 houses due to the social school nonsense
If there's anything I can do to help you make sense of all the info, let me know!
@@BacklogBattle any let's play/how to play vids.. on demo and arundel just disappeared. Was a lot going on and to work out... Still got dqxi to finish also damn
yeah the school stuff got extremely grating to me on my second playthrough
Though the gameplay is pretty solid, I primarily played for the story. The ending was hollow and disappointing for me, which hurt my overall experience and doesn't make me excited to jump into another route.
Thanks for sharing. That’s unfortunate that it didn’t vibe with you. May I ask which route you played?
@@BacklogBattle I played Scarlet Blaze. I wasn't a fan of Crimson Flower in Three Houses but I enjoyed my time with Scarlet Blaze. It's just jarring how it ended so abruptly.
I checked the other endings and they're like that too so I'm pretty disappointed at the moment. Maybe as time passes I'll get over it and just enjoy it for what it is.
i always imagine being one of the soldiers being hit in a warriorstyle game like this. whats their purpose...of existance aside from being feather-meat feeder to 0.1 % of exp for the heroes hahahha
Omega Force has really been knocking it out of the park.
I have a somewhat rocky relationship with Fire Emblem, and Three Houses didn't really seem like it was up my alley, but this one looks more interesting to me. Definitely gonna try out the demo
The demo is worth checking out, for sure!
Thought the beginning was slow but gets great really quick. I really wish Nintendo would port the 3DS games to Switch so I could play them on the TV.
It starts faster than Three Houses imo!
Gotta wait until payday and then I am definitely getting this.
Hope you enjoy it! It’s so good!
Personally Three Hopes really didnt do it for me, it didnt feel like its supposed to complement Three Houses but replace it, Shez very much feels out of place (and his super sayian form even more so) and I was not fan of the character rewrites. Its not really a different timeline, its a different universe, with characters behaving differently and even past events, its not the same as the route splitting in Three Houses. More importantly, there was no need to go this far to tell another Three Houses story, fans have been clamoring for a "golden" route since the games release and there is a ton of things that Three Houses didnt get to tell us, we could have had a continuation or a more in depth look at some of the aspects of the story we only heard in Three Houses or the afformentioned golden route but instead we get this convoluted mess of a fanfiction retelling where we are essentially forced to kill our previous protagonist.
Nope, not for me, the entire time I played I had this icky feelings of things not being right and I had to force myself into continuing because this is not how things were supposed to go and the story simply didnt grab me.
Bottom line, this didnt feel by any means as an expansion of Three Houses, because while the world is largely the same, it isnt Three Houses world, these are not the characters that we know as Byleth, not the world we fought for and not the future we can get, its got nothing to do with Three Houses aside for the superificial aspects, they exist in the same or similar setting but beyond that their stories conflict.
That being said and emotional reasons aside, I think they did great job making a warriors game feel like Fire Emblem, I loved Omega Force's continuation of Persona 5 and they clearly tried the same here, but whereas Strikers really felt like a continuation, this simply feels like an attempt at rewriting the original and because I love the original so deeply all the disconnect here just caused me to not care.