Dear former Opus Dei, congratulations for your work on talking about OD. I valídate all you say about Opus Dei, and makes me feel better about what I feel about Jose Maria and Opus Dei. I want to tell everybody all the truth about them, I don’t want to see any friend or any people joining OD. You are a brave man. I want to do the same. I live in a city where most of my family and friends were educated in OD schools and many are members of OD. It is hard for me to let them go. Hope to meet you sometime.
Wow, that was great to watch, as the other ones I have. I thank you for your candidness and honesty, and really: you do speak in a pleasingly calm and tranquil way, which helps the message come across. I am a numerary from Spain and I reckon these things need to be said. It has already been a long while since I was last part of a local council and I am unaware of lots of things that have changed: I am one of the depressed ones (but not especially due to the Work, it goes with my family), and I have been ages without attending a brief circle. Anyway: thanks and I really hope the message comes across where it needs to. Because it is indeed needed. Hope you have a good life now.
Dear numerary, leave Opus Dei. Nobody has a real vocation. Te hablare en español. No hay vocación al Opus Dei. Busca en el internet, lee los testimonios de muchos ex numerarios, mi cuñado fue numerario a los 14 años y salió huyendo por una ventana porque no lo dejaban ir. Despues de un tiempo no pudo con el cambio y al final se suicido. Eso les ha pasado a muchos. Desde hoy rezo a Dios para que encuentres el valor de salirte sin dar ninguna expliacacion. Se que te dicen que tu depresion viene de familia, no es cierto, la mayoria de las numerarias en mi ciudad sufren depresión, terminan rompiendo tu psique porque te enseñan a no sentir, a negarte a ti mismo. Te deseo todo el bien posible.
Hey! Thanks a lot for your comment and your prayers (any way they go they are worth a lot to me). Sorry about your brother-in-law and the situation in your city. Thank God I have good friends (out of OD) who care a lot for me and also spiritual help out of the Institution, so not to worry about that. But I do appreciate your concern and wish you the best too.
@insidecritical3759 Caray, ya no me acordaba de este comentario. Gracias por tu interés y preocupación. Tenemos, de momento, que "agree to disagree" pero el hecho de que muestres interés por mí ya me hace estar agradecido. El asunto de la depresión es serio, por eso escribí todo aquello. ¡Gracias por leerlo! Espero que tú estés bien. De verdad, gracias por tu comentario.
@insidecritical3759 Bueno: así da gusto. Tienes razón en todo lo que dices y te agradezco los cumplidos, que responden al menos a mi intención. Se ve que tienes buen corazón, si no no estarías preocupado por mí. Te lo agradezco. Me parece entender tu perspectiva. El hecho de que no la comparta totalmente no hace que piense que es errónea: cada individuo tenemos nuestra concepción personal del mundo y eso lleva a que encontremos soluciones diferentes a problemas similares. Como supongo que habrás deducido, comparto el hecho (pues es un hecho) de la existencia de disfunciones serias en el Opus Dei. Que yo permanezca no significa (en mi visión del mundo) que las comparta, ni mucho menos. También estoy dejando clara, al Opus Dei, mi opinión (y el Código de Derecho Canónico, que vale más) y, desde luego, intento llevar una vida todo lo libre (Aristóteles diría "plena") que puedo. Gracias. Si acaso prefieres escribirme personalmente, no me molestaría. Estoy en pfortuny, claro, en gmail.
Opus Dei is not for everyone. It is ultraconsrvative but all the Opus Dei that I know in my country were executives, leaders, hospital directors, bank executives, physicians etc. So there must be something in opus dei that makes them successful in their field.
@@ryanhilliard1620 Did you happen to watch Harrison Butker's controversial commencement speech. He references Escriva early in the speech. The speech was more of a right wing political rant than anything. (Butker claims God has given him success in the NFL, and has called on him to use his platform to speak out)
OD is frightening. It’s the same with all extreme religions. They fall for the sense of being in. Yes they are in successful businesses etc. so are the Mormons. they do it for themselves. It’s self love Period
Dear former Opus Dei, congratulations for your work on talking about OD. I valídate all you say about Opus Dei, and makes me feel better about what I feel about Jose Maria and Opus Dei. I want to tell everybody all the truth about them, I don’t want to see any friend or any people joining OD. You are a brave man. I want to do the same. I live in a city where most of my family and friends were educated in OD schools and many are members of OD. It is hard for me to let them go. Hope to meet you sometime.
Wow, that was great to watch, as the other ones I have. I thank you for your candidness and honesty, and really: you do speak in a pleasingly calm and tranquil way, which helps the message come across.
I am a numerary from Spain and I reckon these things need to be said. It has already been a long while since I was last part of a local council and I am unaware of lots of things that have changed: I am one of the depressed ones (but not especially due to the Work, it goes with my family), and I have been ages without attending a brief circle.
Anyway: thanks and I really hope the message comes across where it needs to. Because it is indeed needed.
Hope you have a good life now.
Dear numerary, leave Opus Dei. Nobody has a real vocation. Te hablare en español. No hay vocación al Opus Dei. Busca en el internet, lee los testimonios de muchos ex numerarios, mi cuñado fue numerario a los 14 años y salió huyendo por una ventana porque no lo dejaban ir. Despues de un tiempo no pudo con el cambio y al final se suicido. Eso les ha pasado a muchos. Desde hoy rezo a Dios para que encuentres el valor de salirte sin dar ninguna expliacacion. Se que te dicen que tu depresion viene de familia, no es cierto, la mayoria de las numerarias en mi ciudad sufren depresión, terminan rompiendo tu psique porque te enseñan a no sentir, a negarte a ti mismo. Te deseo todo el bien posible.
Hey! Thanks a lot for your comment and your prayers (any way they go they are worth a lot to me). Sorry about your brother-in-law and the situation in your city. Thank God I have good friends (out of OD) who care a lot for me and also spiritual help out of the Institution, so not to worry about that. But I do appreciate your concern and wish you the best too.
@insidecritical3759 Caray, ya no me acordaba de este comentario. Gracias por tu interés y preocupación. Tenemos, de momento, que "agree to disagree" pero el hecho de que muestres interés por mí ya me hace estar agradecido.
El asunto de la depresión es serio, por eso escribí todo aquello. ¡Gracias por leerlo!
Espero que tú estés bien. De verdad, gracias por tu comentario.
@insidecritical3759 Bueno: así da gusto. Tienes razón en todo lo que dices y te agradezco los cumplidos, que responden al menos a mi intención.
Se ve que tienes buen corazón, si no no estarías preocupado por mí. Te lo agradezco.
Me parece entender tu perspectiva. El hecho de que no la comparta totalmente no hace que piense que es errónea: cada individuo tenemos nuestra concepción personal del mundo y eso lleva a que encontremos soluciones diferentes a problemas similares. Como supongo que habrás deducido, comparto el hecho (pues es un hecho) de la existencia de disfunciones serias en el Opus Dei. Que yo permanezca no significa (en mi visión del mundo) que las comparta, ni mucho menos. También estoy dejando clara, al Opus Dei, mi opinión (y el Código de Derecho Canónico, que vale más) y, desde luego, intento llevar una vida todo lo libre (Aristóteles diría "plena") que puedo.
Gracias.
Si acaso prefieres escribirme personalmente, no me molestaría. Estoy en pfortuny, claro, en gmail.
This explanation of the anthropology of Opus Dei spirituality is the most accurate i've seen in my life!
I hear that there are psychiatrists who specialise in Opus Dei.
Correct
Opus Dei is not for everyone. It is ultraconsrvative but all the Opus Dei that I know in my country were executives, leaders, hospital directors, bank executives, physicians etc. So there must be something in opus dei that makes them successful in their field.
Many of them are successful in their fields and then recruited by OD.
@@ryanhilliard1620 on the contrary most of them were members when they were college students. I am not a member but I have known some of them.
@@ryanhilliard1620 Did you happen to watch Harrison Butker's controversial commencement speech. He references Escriva early in the speech. The speech was more of a right wing political rant than anything. (Butker claims God has given him success in the NFL, and has called on him to use his platform to speak out)
They target them when they are young, specifically under 25, and are already on their way to success
It is well known also that a lot of narcissistic individuals as well as psychopaths are very"succesful" too.
OD is frightening. It’s the same with all extreme religions. They fall for the sense of being in. Yes they are in successful businesses etc. so are the Mormons. they do it for themselves. It’s self love Period
Kenneth Woodward calls Opus Dei Catholic Mormons.